jake your not a real boxing fan if you thought this fight was boring your a fan of donaire…hollaatchaboy!Posted April 16, 2013 11:55 am
sorry i stayed home to watch this borefest , rigandoux sucksPosted April 14, 2013 6:06 pm
Hey TARK.. Respect to you!! you really do know all aspects of the art and your eye for important hidden factors are 100%Posted April 14, 2013 3:26 pm
And, I had wanted to make a point to Vivek yesterday – but couldn’t get round to it – that, in some cultures, the tendency to NOT continuosly look straight into the eyes of others is not a sign of fear, or weakness, or having something to hide. In most of Africa, some parts of South America as well as the East, looking continuously into people’s eyes is considered obnoxious, unecessarily intimidating, and downright rude.
P34c3Posted April 14, 2013 4:08 am
Good win by Rigo.
I can’t resist having to say to Boxtra that “I told you so.” I said:
P34c3Posted April 14, 2013 3:38 am
On big fights Viv almost always predicts a close fight and split decision… That’s a sure sign of somebody who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.Posted April 14, 2013 2:37 am
ADl you spot on. Donaire was confused my goodness.Posted April 14, 2013 1:21 am
Donaire is Amercan based, if he wasn’t there, it would be who is Donaire, don’t get carried away, you have got to see the Boxers, what they do, not if they are from a country or based there, you have to look into Boxing more, Worldwide.Posted April 13, 2013 11:15 pm
This reminds me of Calzaghe v Lacy, Calzaghe put on a clinic, no one see that, the Boxer might find it easy to beat him up.Posted April 13, 2013 11:10 pm
Keep your nuts dangling, Boxer shorts, no breifs, air flow.Posted April 13, 2013 10:27 pm
It’s Me Ernie
Tark-Nice work as usual, talk of men’s nipples etc, a lot of hot air and no substance on how the fight in question will unfold.Posted April 13, 2013 10:07 pm
Rigo has forgotten more about boxing technique than Donaire and Robt Garcia have ever learned.
Nothing that usually works for Donaire will work on Rigo. Then, he will get impatient, get aggressive and either get out pointed or knocked out.
Donaire and Garcia will be as confused as Pavik was against Hopkins.
Gonzalez v Carbajal, that was a big fight, without the TV etc, internet, that would of been a big fight in this day and age.Posted April 13, 2013 8:58 pm
Well since I can’t make a pick in this one, I’ll root for a good fight. I really have to go with Donaire baised on his acheavements, but Rigondueax has damn good skills. The problem is, Rigon got rocked in one of his fights not long ago, by a lighter hitter than Donaire. So, if Donaire tags him with good punches, he’ll probably hit the canvas or worse…. On the same token, Rigon could prove to be the best fighter Donaire has ever faced. Until I see it, I won’t know, so I tentatively pick Donaire by way of late stoppage.Posted April 13, 2013 8:53 pm
Just in case.Posted April 13, 2013 8:18 pm
Looks as if the site is getting back to as good as it did a few years back with a few writers and old posters back on.Posted April 13, 2013 8:07 pm
testPosted April 13, 2013 8:06 pm
IF Rigo takes MY advice and Fights very Defensively he could out point Donaire. I TOLD Donaire to get rid of Garcia because he doesn’t teach Defense TOO well. Move ON to Virgil Hunter or the Mayweathers and you’ll be Top 3 P4P instead of Top 5.Posted April 13, 2013 7:57 pm
Do aired comp has been subpar. I really see no difference when he fought that undefeated guy like 5 fights ago to his last fight with Arce. The only question is can Rigo take his punch or is Rifo good enough to compete because Rigis comp hasn’t been stellar. I can’t really pick a winner, I think it’s a 50/50 fightPosted April 13, 2013 7:37 pm
I’m with Rigo to win this one. Donaire will be unable to take his body shots. RIGO, RIGO, RIGO… EL CHACAL FORMIDABLE DE LA ISLA BONITA DE CUBA.Posted April 13, 2013 7:15 pm
In his last couple fights Donaire has been back to the style that suits him best. A lot of big punchers pass through a phase where they think they can knock everybody out—and They’re influenced by the fact that fans love KO’s. When you forget about the mastery of hitting without getting hit—and start going for KO’s—you’re in trouble. If you’re a mile ahead you don’t need a KO. But your opponent is getting desperate and will start looking for the KO shot like Nishioka did. That gives you opportunities to land devastating punches with little risk. To me that was Nonito’s best fight so far. He looked more spectacular vs Montiel, but he basically absorbed a punch to land a better one.Posted April 13, 2013 7:07 pm
Tark has the beatPosted April 13, 2013 6:08 pm
I’m going with Rigo ewho will use pin point counters to hit a frequently exposed Donaire. Also, Rigo’s defens is far superior. But I hope I am wrong.Posted April 13, 2013 6:06 pm
oke yes your welcome : Eleanore the HagPosted April 13, 2013 5:56 pm
Tark lol u must not have seen the actual weigh in, Donaire is atleast 2-3 inches taller then Rigo, in this picture Donaire is bending down making fun of how short Rigo is.Posted April 13, 2013 5:32 pm
Donaire usually wears substantial heels, has a bigger head, and a taller hairstyle; so in their media events Donaire appeared much bigger and taller. In this weigh-in photo—with both men bare footed—Rigondeaux’s shoulders appear to be the same height and his nipples appear an inch higher. There appears to be less than a half inch between the heights of their chins, mouths, noses, and eyes. Donaire has a more substantial jaw and chin, but if you shaved their heads you could see there’s not a substantial difference in their hat sizes or their natural heights.
Donaire’s super easy victory over southpaw Toshiaki Nishioka—who hadn’t been beaten in over 8 years—may make him overconfident in this fight. Rigondeaux is no Nishioka. His unbeaten streak goes back over 200 amateur and professional fights.
There’s a theory that a boxer doesn’t improve after 200 amateur fights. That 400 amateur fights actually wear him out and he’s basically getting the same experience over and over again—while at best maintaining the mastery he achieved by his 200th fight. There have been several Cuban amateur-turned-pros with 300 and 400 fights who seemingly give strength to this theory. Rigondeaux may be the exception who proves the rule. He still seems fresh and focused. I still believe the pro game adds a lot to a fighter’s knowledge and Donaire has the edge here.
BTW… As to, “Darchinyan managed to keep the score close.” Donaire gave Darchinyan a boxing lesson. Vic was bloody, beaten up, and badly outboxed before he was KO’d. One judge gave Nonito a shutout, but the judges and ringsiders who had that fight close are too impressed with big, ineffective swings, and theatrics. This fact never ceases to amaze me when I examine judges’ scorecards.Posted April 13, 2013 4:57 pm
Donaire with the easy win. Rigo is vulnerable and this is a huge step up in class for him.Posted April 13, 2013 4:07 pm
Eleanore the Hag
matrix-fist , thanks for sharing. Ugh!Posted April 13, 2013 3:47 pm
Eleanore the Hag
Donaire retard , that’s because Rigi=o has fart breath you moron.Posted April 13, 2013 3:46 pm
ND knows what it’s like to lose. Rigo doesn’t. That intangible could work in Nonito’s favor. So could his crunching left hook.Posted April 13, 2013 3:45 pm
Well, it’s good to see VW back, Like old times.Posted April 13, 2013 3:43 pm
… not top 5… Lol.Posted April 13, 2013 2:09 pm
Just because Nonito has been taking out Mexicans faster then Chris ManBoobs Arreola can put away 100 taco Supremes doesn’t mean he can take out this Cuban… I think Rigo will out Box Nonito and Nonito will get a gift win from the Judges as we’ve seen so many times..Posted April 13, 2013 2:09 pm
… not #5, …Posted April 13, 2013 2:08 pm
Usually, Boxtra’s analyses and predictions are to my taste. This time however, I will have to disagree. Intuition, among other things, tells me Rigo will reach deep down to defeat The Flash.
In another way, the P4P list I’m most comfortable with, is that being maintained over at boxrec, because it is based on several factors, not just on the power of visual observation. There, Donaire is NOT #4, he’s way down, and rightly so, IMO, if one would objectively look at the names above him.
Regardless, I’m expecting this to be a good fight.
P34c3Posted April 13, 2013 2:04 pm
I picked Donaire a YEAR before the Fight was even announced and I STAND by MY pick. Donaire is Top 5 P4P. Rigo is #0. Its a LONG jump from Top Amateur to Top PRO. The History of Boxing agrees with ME on that. And Rigo will soon agree with ME TOO.Posted April 13, 2013 1:24 pm
I’ll change my pick. rigo by stoppage.Posted April 13, 2013 12:56 pm
I think rigo is vastly underestimated by most posters. Rigo by decision.Posted April 13, 2013 12:54 pm
Te Tumbo- what’s up my man. I actually would give Rigo less of a chance against Mares than against Donaire. I think Rigo will match Donaire in skills and athletic ability and Donaire is just not a bruiser that’s going to get in Rigondeax’s face all night (actually, Rigo has a better inside game than Donaire- very similar to Mayweather and Hopkins when he was at 160). The question for me is wether he can keep Donaire from landing a bomb and wether he can take that bomb when it lands, we just don’t known if Rigo can take the shot of an elite pro. If he can, he’ll school Donaire.Posted April 13, 2013 12:46 pm
It’s Me Ernie
Nighty night Rigo…Posted April 13, 2013 12:36 pm
Ivan o.l. (@carterknight)
I wish Rigondeaux wins him, but i think Nonito is going to knock him out after or before…..Posted April 13, 2013 12:36 pm
Vivek, I hope you don’t even respond to that “night before Christmas…” post. Anyways, I think Donaire showed us something really special in himself when he fought Mathebula. For most of the fight Mathebula boxed masterfully and was really doing well against Donaire. But Nonito showed his toughness and durability and persistence–and of course his advantage in skill level– and eventually overcame Mathebula–and Donaire had a serious height and reach advantage (by Mathebula) to contend with. Yes, the mental game is there but I don’t care if Rigo has had 1,000 fights–Donaire’s fighting mentality and psyche is much like Juan Manuel Marquez’s. Even under extreme fire Marquez stays focused, calculating, and dangerous. He never loses sight of his goal and mentally he never lets himself be defeated. I think Nonito Donaire is the same. He is a warrior who, if he cannot beat an opponent with his skills and extreme KO power, he’ll beat him with his mind. I think you’ve basically hit the nail on the head with your “mental game” synopsis. I don’t think Rigo will be able to cope with Nonito’s irrepressible will and ability to dominate. You talk about how Rigo is a “thinking” boxer. Nonito has always been that.Posted April 13, 2013 12:33 pm
HBO don’t even give you an undercard fight. Even Friday night fights does that much. No wonder theyre all going to showtime.Posted April 13, 2013 12:30 pm
exceedingly labored analysis. i’ll just cut to the chase: Donaire by KO. the intensity of his pro-experience will sabotage and gradually dismantle Rigondeaux’s “measured” style. that’s for the amateurs. this is the PROs where KDs and 8-counts DO matter more than a scoring punch. Rigondeaux is conditioned to manage and contain for the duration, Donaire is conditioned to close the show, which he will. i’ve seen this “great” Cuban amateurs come apart at the seams before in less than gentlemanly or “measured” contests. i anticipate the same outcome in favor of Donaire in this matchup.Posted April 13, 2013 12:19 pm
I feel confident Rigo’s the one who will win. But I doubt he’s letting his hands fly. Guys don’t change their style like that in big fights; when the heat is on they revert to what’s natural. I figure he counter punches Donaire enough to slow his aggression and starts banking a lot of rounds by outboxing him with his sublime skills. Could hurt him a few times in mid to late rounds but it’s a decision win.Posted April 13, 2013 11:55 am
Your writing as improved but it is still quite immature technically and artistically.Posted April 13, 2013 11:54 am
Donaire looks like a retard in that pic. He’d most likely close his eyes when Rigo’s punches comes flying. I pick Rigo to win solely based on his appearancePosted April 13, 2013 11:31 am
I’ll call it again. Donaire KO7 Rigo via right uppercut!Posted April 13, 2013 11:12 am
RIGO is getting knocked out or tko tomorrow .. take it to the bank.. no way in hell will his whiskers absorb the wallops Donaire will be packingPosted April 13, 2013 11:11 am
Chapo- you’re tough to please, my man. If you don’t like one of the most electric and most gifted athletes in the sport on one side and, in the other, one of the purest boxers around, what do you like?Posted April 13, 2013 11:08 am
Not to many people giving rigo a chance in this 1 but I think he gets the nodPosted April 13, 2013 10:34 am
pinoy, yeah, that’s a possible scenario:Rigo tastes Nonito’s power, jump on his bicycle & stink out the joint. I also think that if Rigo engages, punching & trying to win, Nonito will knock’im out cold.Posted April 13, 2013 10:19 am
I really dont like either fighter but I pick Donaire he has fought better opp Rigo best opponent was Rico Ramos Rigo is also up in age I have Nonito by ko in the sixthPosted April 13, 2013 9:29 am
If this was in the midieval times, this fight would be like a tournament between a squire who beat 400 serfs and farmers against a veteran knight who has unseated seasoned knights and has never lost in eleven years. The foregone and logical conclusion is not the quantity of opponents beaten but the quality. Donaire by brutal stoppage if the squire engages, UD if the squire runs around and pot shoots !!Posted April 13, 2013 9:27 am
great fight! hats off to donaire for taking a high-risk low reward fight.. if he destroys rigo in an impressive fashion… imho he is the true p4p champ.. just look at how he dominated every opponent.. he now has tha aura of invincibility which most of his opponent agrees with.. most are just there to survive.. thats the surest sign when one man has built that kind of reputation.. this would be 6rounds maximum as donaire is a bit pissed off with rigo.. hes been disrespecting donaire and call him out a lot of times, even to a point where one of donaire lady friend was disrespected by his team.. now rigo looks like a friggin sheep infront of nonito.. he is all bark.. nonito will show him how to really bite.. goodluck to rigo.. this is the man he shouldnt pick a fightPosted April 13, 2013 5:42 am
Donaire inside 6 roundsPosted April 13, 2013 4:24 am