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Junior

Just read some of the posts below, and SREDMOND has smashed it lol. People are jealous of success, they always will be. Floyd is the biggest fish in the pond, and untill he loses (IF), HE WILL REMAIN !!!

Posted April 30, 2013 6:23 am 


Hidalgo

“I only pick the form and fashion of victory for the ICING on the CAKE. Even IF I’m OFF on that I still picked the WINNER!!” Wow! Even with a different nick you’re still a D!CK, Braggadamus!

Posted April 29, 2013 11:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Guys want to point to Hopkins and example of technique over talent and athleticism… Hopkins is ONE guy who has pulled that off most guys wading into their 40′s especially below HW are going to start booking losses and looking like garbage in general… Shane Mosley was a declawed lion after Floyd took him to school, since that night he has NEVER won again and he wont against a solid young fighter… Sergio was as LATE bloomer and perhaps we have seen the best of him but that does not take away from what he was able to accomplish as an elder statesman in boxing… Beating down the taller, Pavlik, murdering Williams and booking a respectable number of defenses via KO or TKO….

Posted April 29, 2013 7:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Martinez has an improvisational style that is what it is… Its revisionist to tell guys who have certain gifts and attained ALOT using them to fight like someone else in their mid and late 30′s…. Martinez is not going to be more physical than alot of the younger MW’s he is facing his legs, speed and pop were his assetts and if those are truly eroding then he is gonna have issues that trying to fight flat footed are NOT gonna solve… RJJ pretty much defeated EVERY guy he faced easily for 50 fights which is an AMAZING feat considering he had titles from 160 to HW and had EVERY LHW belt you could pretty much imagine… Then he got CAUGHT and he inevitably slowed down…. Jones would NEVER have been Jones if he fought like Tarver and in the annals of boxing history who would have rather been (this sad last chapter aside) Roy Jones or Tarver who was something like 29-6 and who Jones owns a win over? In his prime Jones was able to school prime versions of Toney and Hopkins….Time waits for NO man, if Floyd Mayweather is going to lose these next 3 years are the time, he is pushing towards 40 and even hitters end up going for hitting 325 to hitting 270 and baseball is about 1/5 as demanding as boxing minute to minute…

Posted April 29, 2013 7:44 pm 


tim zawa

Martinez seemed to be gazed after the first round, very strange, knowing him, could have given the fight to Murray, who did better but beating the champ in his hometown requires maybe more…
Martinez looks like ugly, time to back to fondementals or retire.

Posted April 29, 2013 6:15 pm 


Supreme Court

Mike: as the time passes by, you are getting more and more desperate to see Floyd’s 0 gone….
GGG is the only one who can beat Floyd?
How about the Klitshko brothers?

Posted April 29, 2013 5:35 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“He actually won a very close decision on points, your prediction was MARTINEZ BY STOPPAGE, he did not win by stoppage, therefore you are:*****WRONG*****So there.”-YOU are obviously NEW to the site SO let ME educate YOU. I only pick the form and fashion of victory for the ICING on the CAKE. Even IF I’m OFF on that I still picked the WINNER!!

I have NO competition. Its STILL alot of FUN though!!!
NO ONE can out predict CORRECTAMUNDO!!!

Posted April 29, 2013 2:13 pm 


Mike

Golovkin is the only boxer who can beat Mayweather because he is just too heavy and hits too hard. It would end with Pretty Boy being counted out.

Posted April 29, 2013 10:57 am 


malachi

i believe murray got the shaft in this one, for real for real!!!

Posted April 29, 2013 10:56 am 


malachi

oh`hahaha i just realized that sredmond already threw the book at you so excuse me `so as you were sir!!…eazy!

Posted April 29, 2013 10:38 am 


malachi

Zurdo `you sound ridiculous…and by the way mayweather fought dela hoya at his most comfortable weight,please tell the world who is the fighter you follow my man?

Posted April 29, 2013 10:35 am 


SREDMOND

Patrick 2, EXCELLENT post below cosign!

Posted April 29, 2013 9:59 am 


Cuba

BOXTRDAMUS:
I’ll post this again as you just don’t seem to get it.
The words below are yours:

********Martinez by stoppage*********

Martinez WINS just as I predicted! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!

He actually won a very close decision on points, your prediction was MARTINEZ BY STOPPAGE, he did not win by stoppage, therefore you are:

*****WRONG*****

So there.

Posted April 29, 2013 9:11 am 


Patrick2

I am in my 5th decade of being a boxing fan and Floyd Mayweather Jr is the most technically-skilled fighter I have ever seen (Roy Jones being the most athletically-gifted). While there have been fighters who had better individual skills/gifts — better inside fighter, better offensive fighter, stronger chin, more power, etc. — no one is as complete a package as FMJ. Those folks who wish Floyd would retire/go away and/or spend their time criticizing him should instead study how he does what he does and appreciate the skills he displays while he’s still here, still in the sport. Yes, you may not like him, the person he is (or seems to be), but it will be a LONG time before you see another fighter who is as good inside the ring as FMJ.

Posted April 29, 2013 8:28 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather and Pacquiao don’t fight at MW, this is boxing and if you keep running up that scale you’re gonna get killed Pacquiao and Floyd have both pretty much been successful in as many and in Pacquiaos case MORE divisions than the GREATEST fighters you can name in boxing history 130-154 Mayweather 106-147 for Pacquiao… Martinez should really NEVER share a ring with the FMJ’s of the world and Floyd would be dumb for seeking ANOTHER weight class at his age… It does not matter anyway because those who have an unfavorable opinion of him are not gonna give him credit anyway so this just becomes a game… He needs to keep winning, cash out rich as hell and retire to a life of luxury while the boxing World misses him and scrambles looking for the next guy that has Superstar Power not selling $20 tickets and NO PPV power…

Posted April 29, 2013 8:00 am 


SREDMOND

Oscar did NOT starve himself down you are confusing that with the Pacquiao fight Oscar fought Mayweather at a FULL 154 pounds idiot… Oscar fought above 154 2X and looked TERRIBLE each time Hopkins and Sturm… MOST of the Top fighters in the sport today are in their 30′s Donaire, 30, Rigondeaux who beat him was 32 (not saying hes elite yet) Klitschkos 37 and 41, Mayweather 36, Pacquiao 34, Marquez 39, Martinez 38…. Guys are not attaining top status as YOUNG guys so pointing out Floyds fights with guys in their 30′s is weak, if you are holding a belt then you have to take a beating… Tell all the 30 plus guys running various divisions to voluntarily hand over their straps so that Floyd can fight the 20 year olds… Oh yeah he is Guerrero is 29, Ortiz was 10 years younger makes no difference they all will lose until time takes Mayweathers skills…Saying that Cotto, De La Hoya and Mosley, or Marquez were NOT Great fighters is ignorance of Blasphemy… Between them they have Championships in a combined 15 weight classes, minimum 3 weights per boxer, EACH man has been a World Champion on multiple occasions and has defeated HOF or very high caliber boxers…. In an effort to bring down Mayweather guys are willing to denounce the WHOLE sport… Marquez is gonna go down as an ATG most likely after his saga with Pacquiao and destruction of him…

Posted April 29, 2013 7:51 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd has not been in his prime in years the guy is simply still better than 100% of boxing absent some of the foot speed he had in his youth the complaints NEVER cease… Cotto got a 35 year old Mayweather and still walked out of the arena with his head swollen and contused… Any of these guys who saw FMJ close to his mid 30′s might have literally never gotten a single glove on him… Floyd came up HARD and he took over after beating Oscar De La Hoya he is is NOT some sort of absolute media darling, that theory is debunked by the fact that he does not endorse a SINGLE product I can think of… Fact is that Floyd Mayweather is a BOXING Superstar and the country stands at attention whenever they get the priviledge of seeing the Sports Greatest tactician get in the ring and start teaching boxing in its most pure form… Guys who HATE him still sit around dreaming up matchups in order to see him ply his trade, “Canelo, Martinez, GGG, Froch, Cunningham… Will somebody PLEASE figure this guy out!!” They obsess over the fact that he is in striking distance of retiring without a loss..But he has 6 more fights and he is gonna be 40 when he completes that task, not an easy road to travel but then again we are discussing the BEST….

Posted April 29, 2013 7:42 am 


beast

I think a case could be made that Murray won that fight. While he’s not a ball of fire with huge power, I think he landed enough clean shots to win. Despite what compubox thinks blocked punches are not scoring blows, but even compubox had Murray landing more punches. Granted Murray could have been more active and cemented the victory, but I stil think he won. I think Golovkin would hurt Martinez.

Posted April 29, 2013 7:38 am 


Kurushi

Interesting that there is no mention, not a single word, about the 2nd knockdown. It was clearly legit and even though it was ruled a slip (even after the video replay) that it isn’t mentioned in the article at all (as a knockdown or slip) reveals a significant bias in the writer of this post.

Posted April 29, 2013 7:34 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Apparentlly Martinez broke his hand in round 2 & won’t fight again this year.

Posted April 29, 2013 7:24 am 


JOHN

Trout wasn’t hiding like Murray. Trout, at least, came out of the defense once in a while and exchanged. If you chop-up this video into segments its about 29 minutes of Murray in a high guard and 7 minutes of him with his hands below his shoulders in one form or another. What else could Sergio hit ? It reminded me of the Paciou/Clottey fight. B-O-R-I-N–G !!!! And, I do think Sergio looked bad, probably lack of proper trainning and taking the guy too lightly. His inactivity is the fault of his reputation and ability. You don’t see Mayweather, Paciou, any of them calling him out ! The smaller elite guys USUALLY will be quick to say they;d go up a few pounds to fight “X” …….but not in this case. Only Julia Ceasar Chavez Jr. was bld enough to call Sergio out and he got his pot smokin, marajuana numbed ass kicked !

Posted April 29, 2013 7:09 am 


Haimat

Martinez is finished. His speed and workrate is gone. He should retire ASAP. I understand he wants one more huge paycheck in which he’ll get beat.

This is the problem with boxing. He was a beast during a couple of years and everybody stayed far away. In the UFC they would have capitalized on that and we would have seen how great he really was. Boxing is a WWE circus and cherry pickers(Floyd, Al Haymond, etc) are ruining the sport.

Posted April 29, 2013 6:11 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Quillin doesn’t have the coordination that GGG has. He’ll be stopped. Also Martinez has a GOOD chance of being stopped vs GGG. That hands down Defense isn’t going to work vs ELITE level Boxers. Even Chavez Jr. qho is NON ELITE almost stopped him.

Posted April 29, 2013 12:13 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

zurdo40-WOW. That’s alot of CHAMPS that you named in Floyd’s last 10 Fights. In FACT no one has ever faced that many CHAMPS in 10 straight Fights in the ENTIRE History of Boxing! WOW!!! Thats why Floyd’s the GOAT

Posted April 29, 2013 12:06 am 


Ghetto Thug

zurdo40 LMAO at u again, all of those guys u mentioned were suppoused to destroy Floyd but once he punished their butt suddenly those lions turned into bums… haters are pretty lame, PAY HOMAGE TO THE KING MONEY MAY!!!… BTW whats ur excuse gonna be when Money smashes Guerrero´s ass??

Posted April 29, 2013 12:02 am 


FEARS

The most logical fight at 160 is GGG/Quillin with the winner getting a shot at Maravilla. GGG/Quillin would be a real cracker as well as a unification fight. Quillin has been looking better in every fight and I am now a believer. Quillin beats GGG.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:49 pm 


Patrick2

SREDMOND, consider this. Throughout the later half of the fight I know you got the feeling that if Murray had stepped on the gas a bit he could have had Martinez out of there. Hell, I was cringing, hoping Sergio would make it to see the final bell. I used the analogy earlier today — watching Sergio this weekend was like an old clunker car coming apart on the freeway — c’mon baby, c’mon baby, you can make it. Yet, just a fight ago, I think it’s safe to say Martinez would have toyed with Murray the whole fight. I like Sergio, but I see a fighter, a champ, who is now there for the taking. And to throw a shark like GGG in there with him, it wouldn’t end well for Sergio.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:42 pm 


zurdo40

THE FACTS, CORTESY OF A BOXING FAN SAVOY.
Here are Floyd’s last 10 fights. Gatti (33) completely finished. Fought 3 more times and lost 2. Shamba Mitchell (35) Journeyman at end of his career. Zab Judah – enough said. Carlos Baldomir (35) Journeyman at the end of his career. Oscar de la Hoya (34) starved himself down – end of career fought 2 more times. (BTW many had Oscar winning that fight). Ricky Hatton- tough guy but very undersized. Marquez (36) first fight over 135 – went up tp 142 and Floyd didn’t make the weight. Shane Mosely (39) End of career. Ortiz had recently fought at 140 – moved up for Floyd. Cotto – shot fighter but probably the most competitive in the bunch. This is why many of us don’t respect Floyd. If you want to be the #1 P4P guy – fight somebody worth fighting.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:41 pm 


Ghetto Thug

zurdo40- LMAO at u, its pretty amazing how haters ALWAYS find a reason to deny Money´s GREATNESS!!!

Posted April 28, 2013 11:37 pm 


zurdo40

Floyd was the star that american media need it. he never fought against a prime great fighter. None of these fighters were in his prime when fought may: Mosley, Cotto, Marquez, de la hoya. None of these fighters was a real great fighter: Corrales, Castillo, Hatton. And avoid fights against margarito and pacquiao. And never will fight Golovkin nor alvarez.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd is always judged against physical mismatches these days… Mayweather does not belong in the ring with a guy who is 170 pounds plus its not about matchups at that point its about how can we negate his skills with physicality….We know that Marquez would be destroyed by any decent 168 pounder but that will NEVER prove that they are more skilled boxers ONLY that the physical aspects of the bout are so out of whack that JMM has no chance…. Mayweather is 36 years old, and his best weight is 147 if he chooses to fight there then so be it, if he fights a couple of big fights at 154 so be it….But looking for a way to lose is the mindset of a dummy….,

Posted April 28, 2013 11:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Patrick, I don’t think that Martinez looked good either and GGG is a younger, fresher fighter but Martinez has shown a Champions heart on more than one occasion and I can only judge GGG by the guys he has ACTUALLY beaten and NONE of them are even a slight approximation of Martinez who I am not quite ready to throw overboard as of yet saying GGG would take out Martinez in 6 rounds is ambitious… I give Sergio more credit than that, another bad performance and I would rethink my thesis on the matter… But right now GGG enjoys the benefits of acclaim without beating any serious foes… These guys often look different when they step to the next level… Time will tell!

Posted April 28, 2013 11:21 pm 


Rem

True GGG hasn’t fought anyone elite but not only is his record impressive his ability looks scary and hes called out The top 3 p4p fighters in their own weights but all that was heard was crickets. Well to be fair to Floyd he was called out at jmw which hes not but Ward and Martinez have no excuse. Rumor has it he also destroyed Canelo in sparring. Correctomundo at 160 GGG will have Floyd spitting up blood get real man.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:19 pm 


Patrick2

SREDMOND — You are one of the few in here who think and write intelligently. That said, I have to disagree with you here. Yes, Martinez is the champ at 160. And yes, GGG hasn’t had anyone to really challenge him yet. But, judging Martinez from this weekend’s performance I think it’s pretty clear he’s a used-up fighter. The pounding Chavez put on his 37 year-old body aged him considerably. (I didn’t need the HBO crew to tell me that — I could see it.) This aging of Sergio combined with GGG’s solid fundamentals and extreme power, I don’t Martinez would make it more than 6 rounds if the two where to meet before the end of the year.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:15 pm 


SREDMOND

We can throw 100 names at Floyd because he is the focal point of the WHOLE sport, Sugar Ray Leonard had LESS fights than Mayweather NO ONE fights everyone and Floyds promotions net between 75 to 95 million dollars in PPV revenue so its a MAX 2 fight per year scenario… AGAIN there will ALWAYS be a name or two that a guy did not fight… The same guy that will say “Berto” will knock Floyd for smashing Ortiz who BEAT Berto in a FOTY candidate and then knock him for facing Guerrero who just smashed Berto in another FOTY candidate… The logic is inferior….Canelos 22 is Floyd waiting for him to get old?? LMAO??? Margarito? Floyd boxed the guy senseless who knocked Margarito out cold…. Directly after his best outing in years? Floyds 2 forays into 154 during the past 6 years do not brand him a 154 pound fighter his best weight is 147, yet guys wanna force him to clean out that division as well facing demonstrably bigger men… Canelo is going to get his clock cleaned and when it happens I am curious as to the excuses? Cherry picked? waited for him to get old? ring worn blah blah blah…..The guys 17 years in the game, if he was a fake someone would have beat him as he became and 8 time World Champion in 5 weight classes….

Posted April 28, 2013 11:06 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

SPED(Special Ed)MOND: Triple G is the current WBA & IBO Middleweight Champion of the World, idiot. He has already more than enough earned a shot at Maravilla and Quillin. Supreme Court is absolutely right about this topic. GGG and his trainer Abel Sanchez are on public record calling out all the top dogs from 154 -168lbs. That includes Mayflower, Canelo and Ward. Just go to youtube and watch the videos of Triple G and his trainer calling everyone out. Notice how both Maravilla and Qullin avoided mentioning GGG and FAILED to answer his challenges, yesterday??? I DID and so did other REAL fight fans. Word to your motha, fool.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:02 pm 


SREDMOND

If you think Golovkin is “a fellow beltholder” on par with Martinez then you don’t know boxing… Martinez is lineal and Ring Champion recognized as the TRUE MW Champion… Trying to sell Golovkin as his equal is nonsense, the question is VALID who the hell has GGG beaten? will he and Martinez clash, I would assume so as the MW division is thin hence GGG fighting a number of guys who are not even MW’s…

Posted April 28, 2013 11:00 pm 


jay

The ONLY way to know IF floyd would have beaten PAUL WILLIAMS, CINTRON, MAGARITO, CLOTTEY, TROUT, PAQUIAO or CANELO is IF floyd grows some balls and fight them BUT it will NEVER happen. WHATASISSY

Posted April 28, 2013 10:55 pm 


Patrick2

“Any belt holder who avoids a fellow belt holder in his weight class is a FRAUD.”

Newsflash: Belts don’t mean much these days. (I believe Andre Ward recently was the one who summed it up well saying, ‘the belt doesn’t make the fighter, the fighter makes the belt.’) You want legit rankings? Go here: Transnational Boxing Rankings

Posted April 28, 2013 10:54 pm 


Supreme Court

Hahaha!
GGG has “earn a shot”!
What a load of crap!
You are talking about a fellow MW champion!
Ridiculous!

Posted April 28, 2013 10:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Golovkin has to EARN a shot like everyone else and again the fact remains that similar to Alvarez who took FLACK GGG has been beating on smaller guys like Ouma, Rosado and Ishida…. I like Golovkin but he can step up his level of comp beyond the likes of these fighters….

Posted April 28, 2013 10:23 pm 


SREDMOND

The Toe you have been saying that “Floyd ducked Margarito”thus you are saying this is someone of quality that Floyd should have fought… Do you retract the assertion that he “should have fought Margarito”…. AGAIN you accused Martinez of PED usage with NO proof BUT you have pretty much made a case to diminish the P4P King of the Sport because he did not get around to a known cheat?

Posted April 28, 2013 10:16 pm 


Supreme Court

Excellent Professor Tark!
Way to go…in teaching these “simple minds”

You want another proof about simple minds here?
They claim GGG has fought nobody….When he is on record challenging Martinez, Quillin, even Ward…Nobody has answered the call yet…
A high school graduate would ask: “how can he fight “somebody”, when all the “somebodies” are running scare?”

Posted April 28, 2013 10:16 pm 


SREDMOND

“The Toes” game is childish and transparent create fighters with attributes that he comes up with and say hey did Floyd fight someone like that or correlate it with Ray Leonards career… The ploy is WEAK…. You have been whining about him fighting Margarito and Williams who were both TALL but NEITHER was a GREAT jabber…. Floyd is about 5x the jabber of Manny Pacquiao who has been his most prominent rival before he got slaughtered by Marquez who has a BETTER jab than Pacquiao but alas it does NOT compare with Floyds…Miguel Cotto has one of the BETTER and HARDER jabs in the sport and it helped him bloody Floyds nose and keep him in the bout but alas he was figured out and defeated…Mayweather does not enter the ring as a WW the size of Hearns or even Leonard but he gets the job done and has remained unbeaten thru 5 weights… No one would confuse Ortiz with Great but he was 10 years younger and 14 pounds heavier when Floyd knocked him out… Guerrero is 7 years younger and hungry and Floyds gotta hold off that challenge, Mayweather has the $$$$ the houses, the planes the women and he still has to find a way to stay hungry… Guerrero has nothing to lose and everything to gain if he loses they will say he was against the best, if he wins he makes history… Floyd handles this pressure EVERY TIME out… And still wins

Posted April 28, 2013 10:14 pm 


TARK

The Toe asks, “Who did Floyd fight who was tall and prime???”

How about De La Hoya??? He would have weighed into the ring about 170 to Floyd’s 148 into the ring… De La Hoya refused to weigh into the ring but he looked to be at least 170.. He was 5’10″ and only 34 years old… To me he was prime because he was a World Champion coming off one of his greatest victories, a smashing KO over Ricardo Mayorga.. Floyd is 36, but nobody is going to let him use age as an excuse if he loses to Guerrero. Guerrero is bigger and taller than Floyd — and prime. He’s coming off his greatest victory.

Diego Corrales was a prime boxer in his 20′s.. He was almost 6′ tall. That’s way taller than Floyd, and he was undefeated in 33 fights (33-0),

Posted April 28, 2013 9:56 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

How many Boxers in the Sport are considered GREAT jabbers??? In FACT only 1 of the Top 10 Fighters in the ENTIRE Sport is considered a GREAT jabber. Wladimir Klitschko….DO you want Floyd to face Wlad??? That’s your only hope. NO ONE from 167 DOWN can beat Floyd.

Posted April 28, 2013 9:34 pm 


Patrick2

Plus, there’s the fact Martinez went up to 160 to face bigger names/tougher opponents — a division he’s clearly undersized to be in.

Posted April 28, 2013 8:43 pm 


SREDMOND

I was NOT a fan of Sergio calling out WW’s but alas there is NO MONEY to be made at MW absent his fight with Chavez or a rematch…38 year old Martinez has no big name foes to face… Nit Wits will see 45,000 Argentinians and think a bonanaza awaits.. Meanwhile the price of those tickets is PEANUTS compared to a fight in Las Vegas where the cheap seats are $700 going up to ridiculous amounts for ringside… Martinez has to cash out his OLD body because time is his bitter enemy….Everyones creaming themselves over Golovkin who has he fought?? Rosado or Kasim Ouma coming up from 154? GGG has not beat ANYBODY of note unless you want to throw out Ishida who beat Kirkland at 154 and can’t punch… AGAIN Martinez is not in a deep division so it is what it is and in fairness he has NOT been at MW for 7 years or something crazy like that….

Posted April 28, 2013 8:34 pm 


Patrick2

@ Pillowfist. First, thank you for a thought-out reply. No doubt reflexes are a key part of the physical decline as a fighter ages, but there are also the old/new injuries that limit full mobility/or being able to hit with the same intensity from bad hands, AND things such as quicker lactic acid build-up. Plus, raw physical strength declines with age — punches lack pop, makes it harder to muscle your opponent around on the inside, etc.

Posted April 28, 2013 8:28 pm 


Supreme Court

Any belt holder who avoids a fellow belt holder in his weight class is a FRAUD.
Sergio Falkland Martinez is a GROSS Fraud! He calls out welter weights; avoids 4 belt holders in his own division; avoids a big fight at SMW.

Just like Bute Ceucescu and Manny Chemical Pacquiao, the beast is cornered…Very few options left, but to face the reality….

Posted April 28, 2013 8:26 pm 


Supreme Court

To the greenhorn peckerwood who desperately attempts to draw the attention of the Highest Court:
The Highest Court only takes cases from those who are + 3yr on this site….Go back to Boxing News… where you came from….
Folks here have functional neurones …

Posted April 28, 2013 8:17 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I’m SO CORRECT that I even make the EXPERTS LOOK like DUMBOS…. It’s a BIRD, its a PLANE. NOPE. Its CORRECTAMUNDO.

Posted April 28, 2013 8:06 pm 


Boxtradamus

I’m SO CORRECT that I change MY name to CORRECTAMUNDO

Posted April 28, 2013 8:04 pm 


The Toe

Mayweather might fight the dude now he looks so bad Boxtraredmond. ;)

Posted April 28, 2013 8:02 pm 


The Toe

Sergio is a ped taking former cyclist who is possibly one of the worst middleweight champions in history. Spain is the home of peds in football and in cycling.

A prime Margarito hunted him down and stopped him. Compared to great 160 pound fighters of thye past the guy is very average indeed, its only the wretched state of modern boxing and the endless titles that enable old fighters like Sergio to succeed.

Name one good let alone great middleweight Martinez has beaten . There arent any .

Posted April 28, 2013 8:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

I TOLD everyone here LONG ago that Mayweather would out Box Martinez MAINLY because of his Rubber Duck Defense and NOW everyone is starting to realize that I am CORRECT…….In FACT I’m SO CORRECT that people are no longer clamoring for the Fight because they dread ME being proven CORRECT once again.

Posted April 28, 2013 7:55 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martinez, Quillin, and Garcia all WON just as I predicted!!!!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!!!!!

Posted April 28, 2013 7:53 pm 


PILLOWFIST

@Patrick2~ It’s not about the physical aspects of a boxer that erode it’s the reflexes. a forty year old may be able to keep up with a 28 year old in a triathalon but put him in a situation were he must react in an instant and he will lose. This maybe the deal with Martinez. Just like Roy Jones. He was a reflex fighter but, once his reflexes weren’t as responsive he got whooped. Unlike B-Hop who was and still is a defensive master, B-Hop depends on defensive technique not just on reflexes to get him out of trouble.

Posted April 28, 2013 7:30 pm 


Patrick2

The Supreme Court Blabbered: “Oh yeah the lame excuse of Martinez pushing 40…..Hahahahahah! Damn it to hell! Bernard Hopkins is 47!!!!!!! Enough already with the age excuse!”

Obviously you are no where near being north of 35 years old/don’t spend anytime in a gym. Or you would KNOW that is about the dumbest reply you could have posted. But I have faith that you will soon post something even more stupid.

Posted April 28, 2013 7:23 pm 


Rem

SRed yeah man Martinez peaked late so its easy to forget how old he is. And again its possible he underestimated Murray. I look foward to his next fight i hope he answers Canelos challenge very interesting matchup based on both fighters most recent performances.

Posted April 28, 2013 7:03 pm 


Winetaster

I am a fan of Sergio but his career is reminding me a lot of Roy Jones Jr. Both broke the rules on traditional boxing techniques eg. hands down, leaving his head out as a target, not using the jab as often as they should, etc.etc.etc. Like Jones, as long as youth serves them, that style worked in spite of itself. Even before the Chavez Jr fight I think he was slowing . If Chavez fight had 13 rounds (forget about 15) I would bet Chavez would have stopped Sergio. Sergio is going to be stopped by GGG not so much that GGG has just better boxing basics but more that Sergio’s athletic skills are eroding fast. And for those die hard Sergio fans, look at the injuries that Sergio is having…that is happening due to age and weaker bones. They just can’t sustain his style of hopping and running around anymore. There are no more fluid in the joints to take the punishment.

Posted April 28, 2013 6:45 pm 


SREDMOND

NO ONE was going to brand you a genius for calling out Taylor who won a couple UGLY and debateable bouts with Hopkins then struggled with guys who were not natural at 160 OUMA, Wright, and Spinks…. Jermaine had clear flaws, though I did not anticipate Pavlik knocking him cold in that manner…. Oh well thats boxing, its like Music most guys are not going to last forever or have a Mayweather like run in the game….

Posted April 28, 2013 6:00 pm 


SREDMOND

I DON’T see you as right at all and trying to use ” The Hopkins excuse”
is utterly weak… Who thought that Pavlik and Taylor were future ATG’s? They were typical Champions who defended for short durations… As for Hopkins he is the exception NOT the rule, right now there is someone who is 125 years old and still living if you tried to sell that as the traditional lifespan as of 2013 you would be laughed at…. Using the outlier to negate reality is weak, people are simply noting that Martinez might be slowing down he blew out his knee and had to get off the canvas to win his last bout and he looked unusually bad against Murray last night… You just set a 2 year window for his demise which takes him to 40 years old thus increasing his chances of a setback the guys not in his prime…. Pacquiao is far from a fraud, after ekeing out 2 wins against a GREAT fighter he got his head taken off… Thats boxing… I guess Duran, Hearns and Leonard are all “Frauds” all were knocked out and suffered losses?

Posted April 28, 2013 5:58 pm 


Supreme Court

Oh yeah the lame excuse of Martinez pushing 40…..Hahahahahah!
Damn it to hell! Bernard Hopkins is 47!!!!!!!
Enough already with the age excuse!

Posted April 28, 2013 5:48 pm 


Supreme Court

SREDMOND:
Why are you repeating what I openly disclose?
I have a vendentta agains FRAUDs
I had a vendetta against Jermaine Taylor; Kelly Pavlik the balloon fighter; Manny Chemical Pacquiao; Bute Cescescu; Sergio Falkland Martinez….
And guess what!
I have been 100% of time proven right!
Which suprpasses the record of the Greatest Prophet of this site…

Posted April 28, 2013 5:45 pm 


SREDMOND

If Murray was a bigger puncher that would have been a different fight…!

Posted April 28, 2013 5:44 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, I have to agree Martinez did not look good last night he has a ton of heart but it looks like its getting harder for him to go 12 moving like that…. Fact is the guy is creeping up on 40…

Posted April 28, 2013 5:41 pm 


Rem

Wow the worst ive ever seen Martinez look. Hats off to Murray he did a tremendous job of timing Martinez and picking his shots. I wonder if Martinez underestimated him or has he really slowed down. Before last night i thought he would smoke Canelo now im not so sure. If thats what Martinez is now GGG is the best mw in the world. Martinez let me down when he said he wouldnt fight GGG maybe last night is why. Lots of questionmarks going foward for Martinez.

Posted April 28, 2013 5:40 pm 


SREDMOND

And yes the damn Challenger should lose CLOSE fights the onus ie “burden of proof is on him” as a PHONY officer of the Court you should be 100% familiar with this concept or did you NOT pass the Bar exam? and don’t give me the burden of proof for Civil Court which is lower…. Reality is that tradition in the sport worked in opposition to your stance on this bout so you are whining which is unbecoming… Murray showed that Martinez is looking more vulnerable these days, perhaps you will see him splatted on the canvas sooner than later discussing his knees and a bad hand… Dudes falling apart…

Posted April 28, 2013 5:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Martinez booking a loss pushing 40 is going to be viewed in context, he was a good Champion who fought who he could the guy is getting along in years OF course he is gonna lose if he keeps fighting…His style is a very athletic one dependent on reflexes, unusual stamina and speed…. He is not a technical marvel, so the loss of his athleticism is going to expose him to the dangers of bigger punchers at this point… Martinez is far from a fraud, hes a guy who has shown guts on more than one occasion when he had to…. His wins over Pavlik and Williams are solid and the manner in which he turned out the then ironchinnned Williams lights can only be respected….You don’t get validated by saying “see he lost at 40″ anymore than guys will be vindicated if someone gets to Mayweather at 38…. MOST of these other guys were dropping fights in their 20′s let alone early or late 30′s…..We get it, you don’t like Martinez….

Posted April 28, 2013 5:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Supreme Court, your vendetta against Martinez is WELL known and long running… You are appointing yourself Jail House lawyer for Murray when Murray himself sees the error of his ways and simply felt the scores might have been closer… IMO Murray fought well and the bout was something within his grasp, but he fell short and boxing tradition is not gonna get upended because you want to see Martinez lose and Murrays a nice guy….It was a close fight, plenty of people saw it for Martinez and some for Murray that said Martinez is the Champion, Lineal, and Ring he has defenses under his belt and he did enough deserve a close bout which he won…. Maybe your argument will gain more steam if you can get your star witness (Murray) to actually say he won the bout….

Posted April 28, 2013 5:22 pm 


srminimo

Martinez looked old last night and, for a guy that depends so much in athletic ability and fights guys much bigger than him, that’s not great news. He really should think about trying to go down to 154 and finish his career with a couple of good fights down there before a Midleweight lays him out.

Posted April 28, 2013 5:18 pm 


Supreme Court

SREDMOND: it is immoral, unprofessional, unacademic to base an evaluation, a posteriori, outside the pre-set rules and regulations…
Please stop the BS about the challenger who has to do more than what is required by the rules to win….
And please, try to dissociate the “formal world” from the “informal “or “underworld” one ….
In the “Underworld” a bank robber legitimize a robbery by stating that it is the fault of the banker who did not protect effeciently his money…

That is exactly your position here….
Now do yiou see how ridiculous such a viewpoint is?

Posted April 28, 2013 5:18 pm 


Supreme Court

For the past 2 years the highest Court has been saying Sergio Martinez was a FRAUD, he turns out to be one yesterday!
Martinez cashed in defeating two unidimensional fighters: Pavlik and P. Williams; since then, just like J. Taylor and Kelly Pavlik before him, he started calling out smaller fighters…
We said Jermaine Taylor was a Fraud, it was proved he was one later;
We said Pavlik was a Fraud when he started fighting the like Lockett, Rubio, and avoiding Williams and Abraham….It was proven he was when he stepped up.
We said Pacquiao was a fraud who scammed the boxing world fighting past-prime-old fighters; Marquez planted his face in the canvas.
We said Bute was a Fraud, who fought tomato cans in Quebec; he was knocked out when he stepped up.

There is is not a single fighter the Highest Court has deemed Fraud who was not later proven to be one!

Martinez will be decapitated when he faces one of the multiple beltholders in his division.
Martinez is conered now….He can no longer called out WW….If he picks another “unknown”, he will be ridiculed…

Posted April 28, 2013 5:09 pm 


Mick the Marmalizer

Murray was a credit to the sport & the UK(never once did he complain), So what happen’s next? I reckon it could be Martinez/Canelo & Murray vs B.J.Saunders.

Posted April 28, 2013 4:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Murray left that fight VERY much in doubt and discussed Martinez catching him in the final round… Expecting a Ring Champion to lose his belt in a close fight, in his country in front of 45,000 of his fans is in stark defiance of boxing tradition… Murray should have been raining blows in the final 2 rounds but he sure as hell did not he chose to remain technical and thats not gonna cut it during a close fight… Trout tried MUCH harder to no avail against Canelo… Murray could have taken Martinez had he been willing to take more risks…

Posted April 28, 2013 3:48 pm 


PEEJ

Murray won that fight, it was close but Murray was the clear winner. Most of Martinezs punches where blocked. And there should of been 2 knockdown a called not one. I do appreciate Murray not going on a tirade on how he was robbed. Him and Trout showed class in defeat. I also though Trout won but that fight could of gone either way. This fight had one outcome and it was Murray who should of gotten the nod

Posted April 28, 2013 3:02 pm 


Anonymous

That second knockdown was totally legit, had it been called as it was Murray would have gotten a draw at least. Murray got mugged by the ref and judges.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:57 pm 


AssyrianGod2

I had Murray taking this, but it was fairly close. On neutral ground or in the UK I think Murray would have got the nod. A rematch outside Argentina I think Murray would win. However the fight was fairly close nonetheless, so you can see how Martinez got the descision, a bit of a gift, but not daylight robbery. Murray must be kicking himself he wasnt that little bit busier.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:52 pm 


Neil (Pomy)

Martinez was lucky he was on home soil. He is ready for the taking …. he has now struggled with all 3 of the Brit boys and was decked by Chavez as well. Martinez has been a great fighter and is still world class ….. but he is clearly on the slide.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:21 pm 


Overated

Murray put up a great performance and possibly deserved at least a draw but he was in sergios backyard and any close decision was always going to go his way. The last 2 rounds was were the fight was won and murray faded somewhat. Murray can take a lot of heart from his performance.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:08 pm 


Raoul

Murray won a close fight -plain and simple-I am (was) of SM fan but either age has caught up with him or Murray is a great fighter-probably a combination of both.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:01 pm 


Cuba

It seems everyone is whining about this result except Murray.

Posted April 28, 2013 1:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can, I think this is one of the BIG issues with modern boxing the idea that every close fight between challenger and Champion warrants a rematch… Back in the day if you lost you went to the BACK of the line…We had to hear about Klitschko for years because people think that you get unlimited opportunities to fight for the title… Fighting for a title is a priviledge you need to bring your A game, the guy with the belt has EVERYTHING to lose and if you cannot capitalize on your opportunity then you might have to live with the result or fight yourself back into position…Murray gave a damn good account of himself but if he wants another run at Martinez he should get out there and knockoff some known MW’s in order to regain his shot….

Posted April 28, 2013 1:16 pm 


Tomato Can

I thought Murry had a good chance to win last night, but I didn’t see any robbery. I do think Murry deseres a rematch though.

Posted April 28, 2013 1:09 pm 


Cuba

*missing word
where I’m *sure* the guy

Posted April 28, 2013 1:07 pm 


Cuba

Seems to be a lot of people around the world thinking Murray won and a lot thinking Martinez won so I don’t think its fair to say it was only a robbery if you are a Murray fan, I’m sure there was a comment earlier saying the Mexican sportscasters/presenters/pundits had Murray ahead and I was on a website earlier where I’m the guy writing the piece said he thought Murray won. The UK press are calling this a brave display by Martin Murray which to me says they think he came up short (that is if they had someone at the fight covering it and haven’t just generaised the story). We’ve all had this argument a million times before and we’ll be here again the next time there is a close decision.

Posted April 28, 2013 1:06 pm 


SREDMOND

I like the way Murray fights he is a STRONG kid but if you want to beat a Champion on his home turf and a guy sporting the Ring Belt you have to take more chances and YES that might mean you risk getting knocked out…. But if you leave it open to interpretation and lose the last couple of rounds then you cannot be serious about getting the nod…. You are BEGGING for the judges to favor you which is not gonna happen, if the situation was reversed I would be saying the same damn thing…

Posted April 28, 2013 1:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Please Helenius vs Chisora was a ridiculous hometown decision where no one but Helenius camp, and the Finnish believed he won… Murray waged a close battle and came up short… He even said as much after the fight, that was no ones robbery unless you’re a massive Murray fan…

Posted April 28, 2013 12:48 pm 


Truth Teller

Complete robbery….haven’t seen such hometown favortism since that ref saved Bute in Canada from getting ruled a ko when he fought Andrade the first time.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:39 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Really like and respect Maravilla, but Triple G will KTFO of him and drop him like a bad habit. Sergio can’t run from GGG forever. Everyone’s been ducking Triple G! Bring Mayflower, bring Chavez, bring Quillin, bring Canelo, bring Ward! Who has the sack to step to Golovkin? That is the real question here, ladies.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:37 pm 


knowall

Murray got screwed

Posted April 28, 2013 12:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Gotta agree everyone’s injured when they look bad or lose… Helenius, Vitali, Donaire, Martinez that’s why the most pure reality is the results…

Posted April 28, 2013 12:30 pm 


horst fraze

this one could have easily gone the other way at a different site, say england for example.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:15 pm 


gus

Martin prooved that he is a very good Middleweight . He does not have the confidence and mimdset and killer instinct. If he had he would have gone for the KO in the last 2 rouns and either gotten it or secured the win . Martinez should stick with fighting 154 pounders

Posted April 28, 2013 12:06 pm 


dwc

Murray did such a good job and it was so close that yes a rematch should be made.But I dont think Murray brings that much selling power even in the U.K. to make a rematch that Sergio would agree to.But atleast Murray set himself up for a big name money fight…good job Murray.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:05 pm 


Ned

Murray dropped Sergio twice and sliced up his face; Murray won! However, boxing is boxing and Argentina is Argentina. It is what it is.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:58 am 


Patrick2

Keep in mind that in every fight a piece of a fighter is left in the ring, and at some point all those pieces add up and eventually leave a once great fighter vulnerable to a young lion. Martinez, now, is an old lion, still with a big mane (read: name), but he has too many scars and injuries to fend off a skilled, determined (Murray wasn’t determined enough), challenger. Expect to see Martinez get stopped in his next scrap.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:56 am 


Patrick2

NOW Canelo will “smash” Martinez. A couple three fights ago, Martinez would have pot-shotted and punished Canelo.

Posted April 28, 2013 11:51 am 


Mex

Canelo will smash Martinez

Posted April 28, 2013 11:27 am 


brian lee

ADL is it Cals fault that so many were afraid to fight him?

Posted April 28, 2013 10:31 am 


Neil (Pomy)

I didnt think Murray would do that well …. but he did much better.

Posted April 28, 2013 10:29 am 


Neil (Pomy)

Oh hear we go again …. yet another fighter blaming injuries for being in a close, tough fight … just like Hellenius and Vitali ….. “I have no excuses, but here are my excuses …. bla bla bla”

Posted April 28, 2013 10:27 am 


SREDMOND

It makes for a better fight if the challenger enters the ring with th mindset that he has to do something EXTRA to get the win… Trying to win a close shave when challenging is bogus, some of this is a byproduct of there being 5 belts per division and guys thinking there will be another day… Guys should fight like its their one and only shot at the title and some good money…More of a “do or die culture” needs to return in boxing….

Posted April 28, 2013 10:23 am 


Cuba

SREDMOND:You’ve pretty much hit the nail on head with your last post. The only part I disagree with is the part about where challengers are not usually entitled to win a close fight, our sport should be fair but its not and that’s where us fans are being shortchanged. It’s likely the judges and referee will have been instructed before the fight who the winner was going to be and to make this happen (or at least made aware who the “winner” should be). All concerned parties will keep quiet about this till their deathbeds. The challenger has to wrench the title from the champion, Murray had it within his grasp but did not show enough conviction, had he went for it may have turned a hometown decision into a travesty as he still would not have got the nod. I am pleased Murray did not get the nod as his life would have been in danger by a British hating crowd whipped into a frenzy by that evil Argentinian hag (she’s even worse than the cross eyed one-quote from president of Uruguay I think) Cristina Kirchner.

Posted April 28, 2013 10:07 am 


Patrick2

To add to SREDMOND’s points, Murray fought well. But there’s only a weak case to be made that he won that fight. The fact is, Martinez, after the Chavez fight, is a used-up fighter — he’s there to be taken. Sergio being a true 154 pound guy, and taking all those cruise-weight punches from Chavez, plus the injuries he sustained, it is clear Martinez is now a shell of his former self. That said, Murray had to have gotten the feeling during the fight that Sergio didn’t have much left in the tank and should have really pressured Martinez, let his hands go, and went for a stoppage. I believe Murray could have done this, but he lacked that killer instinct, and seemed content to play it safe through all 12 rounds. At some point, Murray should have went for broke, knowing he was fighting in Sergio’s backyard, and left no doubt about who won. But he didn’t, and lost a fight he could have won. Next time Murray, in your next fight, make a stronger case for the judges that you deserve the belt to be placed around your waist.

Posted April 28, 2013 10:02 am 


RAy gordon reid

sergio GOT A GIFT

Posted April 28, 2013 9:58 am 


Patrick2

Well said, SREDMOND!

Posted April 28, 2013 9:49 am 


SREDMOND

Alot of you guys are sooooo badly guided by your emotions and biases that you cannot give a reasonable assessment of many bouts… Calzaghe deserved to win against Hopkins BUT he was NOT remotely dominant losing a card and slapping his way towards a win… Murray vs Martinez was a close fight BUT when you fight a lineal Champion with multiple defenses under his belt in his hometown you are NOT going to get the nod and Murray seemed to understand that he was too economical… If you wanna beat a Champion you gotta take MORE risk, Canelo did NOT destroy Trout or anything close, I was going for Canelo and preferred his harder punches but pretending that Trout was hopeless in that bout is the province of DUMB, ILLOGICAL fight fans who really have NEVER seen a dominant performance…Garcia beat Judah clearly but he had to work for it especially in the latter rounds (Championship) where Zab swept them on all 3 cards, even Garcia gave Judah his respect postfight….Liking a fighter does NOT mean you have to go insane and lose ALL perspective it brands you a lunatic…. I thought Donaire was going to wipe the floor with Rigondeax and I was proved UTTERLY wrong Rigo outboxed him nicely and turned Donaires offense off like a light switch with those blistering counter shots which were FASTER than Donaires by a pretty solid margin… I am NOT losing sleep, I have no need to pretend Donaire won to validate my wrong call and Monday Morning Quarterbacks don’t impress me….A prohibitive favorite is usually a favorite for a reason I assume Mayweather will dominate Guerrero but if Guerrero books a win I will be shocked and concede NOT come up with childish excuses…. Close fights usually FAVOR the Champion and thats how it has ALWAYS been… Challengers are not usually entitled to close wins….

Posted April 28, 2013 9:41 am 


Quemero

Martinez won the fight on points without a doubt. He was inserious trouble of being KO and lost 3 or 4 rounds to Murray. The rso of the rounds, particularly 11 and 12, Martinez outscored Murray and secured the win. However, he looked old, not as dominant as he had been before. Murray looked huge (does anyone know how much he weigthed last night)?

Posted April 28, 2013 9:36 am 


Cuba

Boxtradamus

Martinez by stoppage

Martinez WINS just as I predicted! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!

I think he actually won a hometown decision on points, does anyone else agree?

I think you are wrong Boxtra, again……………..

Posted April 28, 2013 8:42 am 


malachi

wow they robbed murray, what a shame..yeezzzir!

Posted April 28, 2013 8:35 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Anyone know what happened with the scheduled Gary Buckland contest?

Posted April 28, 2013 6:56 am 


ADL

Just-Sayin: In addition there is no reason to insult people just because you don’t happen to agree with your opinion.

Posted April 28, 2013 6:23 am 


KOrnerman

No Boxtra you are doing the jew wiggle again, you said Martinez would STOP Murray, he NEVER DID it was HE who nearly got stopped, that makes you WRONG and a CLOWN, do you need glasses Murray was ROBBED.

Posted April 28, 2013 6:22 am 


ADL

Just-Sayin: Never said that he wasn’t great against Hopkins. That post was an answer to somone whe thinks Calzaghe is an all time great. I said he only fought two great fighters. I believe everyone would agree that it takes more than fight 2 great fighters to be considered GOAT. Also: since Hopkins was the best fighter he fought and asked for a rematch after the fight being pretty close. I think he should have given the rematch.

Posted April 28, 2013 6:21 am 


KOrnerman

FUC*ING ROBBERY!!! Martin Won!!! Well Done son!!! Boxtra was Wrong Again I told you He wouldnt stop Martin, I was RIGHT you were WRONG AGAIN you are THE WORST fight prophet EVER BORN hahaha.

Posted April 28, 2013 6:19 am 


knowall

murray got done by home town decision. Murray won that

Posted April 28, 2013 6:11 am 


Just-Sayin’

ADL – really son, you dont have a clue. Calzaghe is the only fighter to out-hopkins hopkins – before a prime Hopkins went on to hand a prime Pavlik his ass on a plate.

Go weed the garden, you’re forgetting your day job.

Posted April 28, 2013 5:48 am 


Anonymous

Murrys a top guy and for the 2nd time he’s come up just short,he not a braggart or delusiond like Mat Maklin,and has took both home town desions against him like a real man.In a rematch with sterm or Martinez on neutral ground he’d have a great chance of beating them,but that won’t happen coz both fighters won’t want any more part in Murry.I hope now he comes back to the UK and get a mini tournament between himself Maklin,Lee and Daz Barker at least in England the best man will get the desion and should make some descent cash.Martinez is done,love Mayweather or not he would give a shut out to Martinez easy work.

Posted April 28, 2013 5:47 am 


ADL

maxmus: So who other than Hopkins and Kessler that Joe fought do you consider great? After he fought Lacy who turned out to be overrated, I was looking forward to him fighting all the top contenders and he did not. He would not even give Hopkins a rematch that he asked for. To be considered great you have to fight most of the best fighters in your era in their prime. Joe did not, he stayed home in the safty of Wales

Posted April 28, 2013 5:07 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Surely a rematch on nuetral ground is in order.

Posted April 28, 2013 4:27 am 


Hugh Jardon

Just watched it, Murray won that by a good 2 points. Another example of poor scoring

Posted April 28, 2013 4:19 am 


Cuba

I’m English and of the same opinion of some of the earlier comments regarding the Martinez fight. You have to go out and TAKE the champions belt. My old trainer was typical old school, his opinion was there shouldn’t be any judges in world title fights, to win the belt you have to knock the champion out. Pretty clean and simple that is. The guy I’m talking about was also a boxing promoter, manager and trainer so he knew his stuff.

Posted April 28, 2013 4:03 am 


Big Ham

Sergio looked faded. I would not say retire yet. But he should drop down in weight. Murray was not a great fighter. But he was a full sized strong young middleweight. Sergio is not so good anymore that he can hold off and overcome these younger bigger guys. Watch the last round of the JC junior fight..

Posted April 28, 2013 3:33 am 


Textbook Hayelord

I was frustrated and a little dissapointed at how timid/gassed Murray looked in the last two rounds, it really did seem there for the taking and he just seemed to throw it away.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:54 am 


hecdog

Martinez needs to retire. I thought more of him before tonight, but that stupid drop your hands and offer your face stuff is ridiculous. He looked awful! He was out of gas, lost his timing and showed very little. An dhe gets dropped. Yeah, he’s done and will get beaten by Canelo, Lara Qulillin or any other top guy. His 15 minutes of fame is over.

Posted April 28, 2013 2:32 am 


Bob Boring

You right Patrick2, Martinez should stop now, except if Floyd want to face him at 154

Posted April 28, 2013 2:13 am 


maxmus

hey adl..why dont u do some homework buddy? calzaghe only fought 2 good fighters? save ur comments for the garbage man.

Posted April 28, 2013 1:40 am 


Hidalgo

As for Arreola—come into a fight looking like an over-stuffed jelly donut and you get what you bargained for. Now Arreola’s nose will be even bigger and flatter.

Posted April 28, 2013 1:13 am 


The Prince

whatupdoe – Sadly, correct. Especially, in the case of Mayweather. Just wait until May 4th. If Mayweather outclasses Guerrero by boxing, all you’ll see is post about how Floyd is a runner and was afraid to go toe-to-toe to save his 0.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:40 am 


zurdo40

whatupdoe you are all right.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:09 am 


Patrick2

Sergio is now like an old car on the highway — the engine is miss firing a bit, the front tires are vibrating, you can see a little blue smoke in the rear view mirror, and there’s the smell antifreeze in the interior. Yea, he’s still getting it done, but there’s clear signs he’s on his last legs and it’s time to get off the highway and find a garage. Sergio is done at the championship level. If he fights any top-10 guy his next time out, he’ll get stopped. If he fights GGG, it’ll be a beat down of epic proportions. Thanks for all the great fights, Sergio, but be smart and call it quits now.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:02 am 


puglife

I was impressed by Murray’s performance tonight and hope to see him again in another top matchup. Martinez is fading a bit with age and whether or not he gets by Chavez jr. in the rematch I wouldn’t favor him over GGG anymore.

Posted April 28, 2013 12:01 am 


largo

Well i’m disappointed because Stiverne said:i’m coming to chop your head off” & that’s exactly what i wanted to see!

Posted April 27, 2013 11:41 pm 


Tomato Can

I would have broke even tonight… lol

Posted April 27, 2013 11:32 pm 


Tomato Can

lol, Stiverne, was another fighter I would have picked to win if I were in Vegas. Damn….

Posted April 27, 2013 11:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Martinez and Mayweather don’t need to share a ring, let Sergio book a win over a MW fighter with a name at this point…. Mayweather is fighting at his best weight of 147 in 2 weeks how does it figure he and Martinez should mix it up? Besides Floyd is only 2 years younger than Martinez BUT unlike Sergio he is undefeated and has fought WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more World Champions…

Posted April 27, 2013 11:24 pm 


ADL

It’s Me, Ernie: Glad you enjoyed it, and thanx.

Posted April 27, 2013 11:22 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

ADL wrote:

“Martinez looked old tonight. That means he should be getting a call from Flyod. That way he can say he beat the #3 P4P”, post of the week right there! LMAO…

Posted April 27, 2013 11:14 pm 


JpL

Stiverne will have to seriously work on his stamina if he hopes to do anything meaningful against any of the klitschkos.

Posted April 27, 2013 11:11 pm 


ADL

Is Steverne’s promoter really Don King. How can anyone be that stupid. I have lost total respect.

Posted April 27, 2013 11:06 pm 


ADL

Yeah, Stevene wins but he is not a serious contenter for the belts.

Posted April 27, 2013 11:03 pm 


ADL

Steverne wins. Outboxed Arreola and took his best punches

Posted April 27, 2013 11:02 pm 


JpL

Stiverne is pretty slick for a big guy!
Good nice crisp shots. Wicked hooks. He’s broke Arreola down, bad.
Arreola backing down… how often do you see that! The body shots work wonders…

Posted April 27, 2013 11:00 pm 


ADL

Its over, the only way Arreola wins is by robbery.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:58 pm 


ADL

Martinez looked old tonight. That means he should be getting a call from Flyod. That way he can say he beat the #3 P4P

Posted April 27, 2013 10:52 pm 


ADL

10th round Arreola needs a K/O in my opinion

Posted April 27, 2013 10:48 pm 


adl

wat round r they in?

Posted April 27, 2013 10:46 pm 


ADL

Arreola waking up a little

Posted April 27, 2013 10:45 pm 


ADL

Arreola looks tired, Stevern has better boxing technigue and seems to be in a little better shape.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:43 pm 


ADL

Arreola took round 7 and maybe hurt Steverne, Stevone took round 8
Arreola didnt do much

Posted April 27, 2013 10:38 pm 


adl

adl -let me know if there is a tko or ko -for the areola fight

Posted April 27, 2013 10:37 pm 


JpL

OOHHwwww!!! Stiverne is pretty slick for a big guy!
Good nice crisp shots. He’s breaking Arreola down, bad.
Wicked hooks.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:36 pm 


ADL

Its round 6, I would say the last 3 rounds for Steverne but Arreola is not going away. Steverne is wiinng the fight right now

Posted April 27, 2013 10:34 pm 


kent

kent- murray would have got killed by the crowd- if he won

Posted April 27, 2013 10:32 pm 


Kent

Disappointed in Martinez’s performance and in his home country at that!! He didn’t deserve to win,IMO!

Posted April 27, 2013 10:31 pm 


adl

wats up with the areola fight?

Posted April 27, 2013 10:28 pm 


ADL

Areolla went down at the end of the round. It looks ugly but he made it to the chair

Posted April 27, 2013 10:22 pm 


BEARS

I’m out what’s goin on with th arreola bout?

Posted April 27, 2013 10:20 pm 


ADL

Battle of the fat boys is on. It looks like they spent more time on thier hair dews than fighting

Posted April 27, 2013 10:18 pm 


BEARS

Provodnikov beat bradley into the round and made him “FACEPLANT”. Boo yah

Posted April 27, 2013 10:16 pm 


PEEJ

Arreolas back by his trunks is just nasty

Posted April 27, 2013 10:16 pm 


Hidalgo

Poor, lackluster performance by Sergio Martinez. That was one of the chintziest performances by a champion that I have ever watched. It was a very, very close fight. If you’re scoring on points only, Martinez eeked out a win in the last two rounds by landing more insignificant shots against Murray than Murray did meaningful shots against Martinez. I think Murry expected more from Martinez in the early rounds so he was a bit too cautious. Either way, Murray really made Martinez look bad. If this is the type of fighting that Martinez expects to keep his belt with, I’m not interested in watching him fight again. Martinez was hard on his bicycle tonight and doing the Cotto fatigue/defeat shuffle for at least half the fight. It was a damn close bout. I grudginly scored the win for Martinez, but in my book, Murry really stole the show.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:14 pm 


ADL

SREDMOND: Exactly, well said.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Boxing is NOT like Basketball of Baseball where the runs are easily scored and it is what it is…. Guys trying to shave a win are going to be on the WRONG and RIGHT side of such close affairs… Murray needed to bring MORE to the game because he could have taken Sergio but his reluctance to get hit kept his hands at home too damn much…

Posted April 27, 2013 10:10 pm 


ADL

Supreme Court: You seem to be letting your distaste for Martinez cloud your thinking. I think most people will see it the way I do. Murry let up in the 11th and 12th. If he had any heart he would have taken that belt instead.
All the excuses about knockdowns that did or didnt matter is just whinning.
There are no excuses in sports.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:07 pm 


KFC

Another bad decission in boxing. The ref. took away a 10-8 rd. from Murray – Murray had most landed shots and def. the most meaningfull.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:07 pm 


Limey jay

2nd knockdown was legit…clearly.
Murray didn,t follow the script and fought strong, but did fade in the end.

Was the result fair?
Well if it were in the uk I guess I would of expected Murray to get the nod, so I guess I can’t complain that Martinez kept his belt at home.
Just got a feeling that he was there for the taking.

Posted April 27, 2013 10:07 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martinez WINS just as I predicted! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!

Posted April 27, 2013 10:07 pm 


SREDMOND

The rule of thumb is that you are going to have to go ABOVE and BEYOND to win the bout… Entering the ring Murray and Martinez are NOT equals, its Sergios hometown and he is the lineal Champ the onus is on Murray to really take over, losing 3 out of the first 4 rounds was not smart…. Murray needed to be busier and despite some solid shots he left it in the judges hands and he seems to understand that….

Posted April 27, 2013 10:03 pm 


Tomato Can

Give Murry the 2nd knock down, and I would have had it a draw… Murry didn’t do enough to beat Martinez in Argentina. If the fight was in England though…

Posted April 27, 2013 10:02 pm 


Supreme Court

ADL: GTFOH!
That’s the rationale, the BS of dishonest people…
Murray knocked down Martinez TWICE!!!!!!!!
Why was the 2d dismissed?
The replay shows a right hook on the temple; their feet not even close….

Posted April 27, 2013 10:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Murray is a classy guy to say the least and that fight was within his grasp but like alot of these guys who want to be conservative when the Championships on the line he did not go all out… Maravilla is on his way down and if he keeps fighting or gets in there with a GGG he is gonna get taken out…. Sergio has all the heart in the world but he is pushing 38 and his style is a youthful one dependent on constant motion and reflexes…We have probably seen the best of Maravilla….

Posted April 27, 2013 10:01 pm 


Supreme Court

the 2d knock downwas clear!!!!!!!
Please watch the replay!
Murray got robbed!

Posted April 27, 2013 9:58 pm 


ADL

If you want the belt, you have to win more decisively than what Murray did.
Murray did not do enough that is why he lost. He wasn’t aggressive enough in the 11th and 12th

Posted April 27, 2013 9:57 pm 


Dash

Martinez is 38, coming off a torn meniscus, twisted ankle, broken left hand and cut above an eye …but hey, he’s been looking quite easy to hit for a while. I think he was at his best at LMW, suited his style better down there.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:56 pm 


Supreme Court

Martinez was whinning, complaining, buying time…

Posted April 27, 2013 9:55 pm 


The Prince

typo – gift decisions.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:54 pm 


terror tim

Well I was wrong about not having a bet here. Murray should he belongs in the ring and looked to me he won it. Good performance by Murray. Should get an immediate rematch in a neutral site.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:54 pm 


murray

COME ON GUYS- THERE WOULD BE A RIOT- IF MARTINEZ DID NOT WIN

Posted April 27, 2013 9:53 pm 


The Prince

I believe Murray won the fight, but hometown give decision have pretty much become the rule of boxing. If you don’t want to lose in another guys backyard, then knock him out. Don’t depend on the judges to be just.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:53 pm 


Anonymous

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Posted April 27, 2013 9:53 pm 


Uk

Great night for the UK, Calzaghe.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:52 pm 


Supreme Court

Martinez is a FRAUD!!!!!!
This was a robbery!!!
You can bet now that Martinez will stay away from GGG and Kid chocolate!

Posted April 27, 2013 9:51 pm 


Tomato Can

Martinez is aching to be knocked out by an uppercut. But I scored it for him tonight 114-113…

Posted April 27, 2013 9:51 pm 


The Prince

Meanwhile on Showtime, we saw the preview for the Mayweather/Guerrero fight. Where another guy named Guerrero got schooled by the better fighter in Quillan.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:50 pm 


PEEJ

Nope, Martinez got a gift against an average fighter. I see now why he doesn’t fight the top contenders of his decision

Posted April 27, 2013 9:50 pm 


Tomato Can

two knock downs? Nice…

Posted April 27, 2013 9:50 pm 


Supreme Court

how could you tell what he would do in the 12? We ve been saying Martinez was a FRaud…it showed tonight!

Posted April 27, 2013 9:49 pm 


murray

MURRAY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted April 27, 2013 9:49 pm 


ADL

Martinez did enough he will get the decision

Posted April 27, 2013 9:49 pm 


Tomato Can

WTF, Boxtra was right again?

Posted April 27, 2013 9:48 pm 


The Prince

Then again, if the is crowd for Martinez… then the judges will give it to him.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:48 pm 


meja

murray won thiis fight, but am sure they will give it to martinez

Posted April 27, 2013 9:47 pm 


PEEJ

This should be a Zmurray win. He won’t get it. Should of had that 2nd knockdown also

Posted April 27, 2013 9:47 pm 


The Low Blow !

smell my finger !

Posted April 27, 2013 9:47 pm 


JpL

Split

Posted April 27, 2013 9:47 pm 


ADL

Supreme Court: Strong words, how do you fiquire?

Posted April 27, 2013 9:46 pm 


The Prince

I smell upset…

Posted April 27, 2013 9:45 pm 


The Low Blow !

yep all Sergio has to do is finish on his feet

Posted April 27, 2013 9:43 pm 


Supreme Court

ADL you are a liar!

Posted April 27, 2013 9:43 pm 


The Low Blow !

what a turn out for Sergio !

Posted April 27, 2013 9:42 pm 


ADL

Martinez did enough to get the 11th and he will porbally do enough in the 12th to pull it out.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:41 pm 


ADL

Martinez needs to do somthing right now.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:39 pm 


The Low Blow !

Murray fighting a great fight so far

Posted April 27, 2013 9:39 pm 


Supreme Court

Martinez is beeing beaten up! un 2d kocked down was ruled slip!

Posted April 27, 2013 9:39 pm 


ADL

Murray will have to beat him decisively to get a win on the scorecards in Argentina

Posted April 27, 2013 9:37 pm 


ADL

It may be a little late but if Murray is going to use that high gaurd why not work the body and get him to drop that high guard.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:35 pm 


ADL

All the greatest fighters have losses on thier record because they fought the best in thier prime.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:33 pm 


ADL

Martinez is a champion, he will find a way.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:32 pm 


Uk

46-0 for a reason.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:31 pm 


ADL

Calzaghe only fought 2 good fighters, thats not enough for GOAT.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:31 pm 


Tomato Can

no, that would open him up to counters.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:29 pm 


ADL

Wow, Martinez down maybe he really is getting old?

Posted April 27, 2013 9:29 pm 


Uk

Martinez is no Calzaghe.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:28 pm 


Tomato Can

lmao

Posted April 27, 2013 9:28 pm 


ADL

Tomato Can: He needs to open up alot more and he won’t because they never do.. I wonder if Martinez has enough power to K/O him.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:27 pm 


ADL

This Murray is a dirty fighter.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:25 pm 


Tomato Can

yup, he’s a plodder, but he’s fighting a pretty smart fight so far. Just needs to open up a little more.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:22 pm 


ADL

You gotta hate when a young strong guy uses such a conservative defensive high guard.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:20 pm 


ADL

I do not know much about this Murray guy so I would be stupid to try to make a prediction but he looks like an ordinary one demential fighter to me.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:14 pm 


Tomato Can

Hmmm, I hope Sergio doen’t duck into an uppercut… lol

Posted April 27, 2013 9:14 pm 


Eric_Suede

I live in honduras , is there any link to watch these fights online

Posted April 27, 2013 9:06 pm 


Tomato Can

One wouldn’t think so, Boxtra. Every once in a while you have to bet agasint the norm. This is one of those times I would.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:05 pm 


Tomato Can

I don’t know Murry looks better than Chavez to me. lol

Posted April 27, 2013 9:04 pm 


Boxtradamus

Then YOU would have been better off giving your money to ME. Martinez is not LOSING in his own backyard.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:02 pm 


terror tim

Murray has little chance to win this fight. There is no bet for this fight. Martinez too big a favorite and Murray just doesn’t have the ring experience to make this a fight. Unless Martinez got old in training camp this won’t be much.

Posted April 27, 2013 9:01 pm 


Tomato Can

If I was in Vegas, I would take Murry to win tonight.

Posted April 27, 2013 8:56 pm 


Kevyd

Martinez points win.

Murrays stock will rise again after this gutsy display

Posted April 27, 2013 8:19 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martinez by stoppage

Posted April 27, 2013 8:16 pm 


IntentionalButt

Free East Side Boxing t- shirt give away for whoever can come closest to predicting winner,round, and time of stoppage. Post your predictions in the forum on my RBR thread.

Posted April 27, 2013 8:11 pm 



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