Hopefully the great Mexican Walrus will finally be sent back to Tijuana to sell tortillas at MargaCheatos taco stand…..Posted May 1, 2013 7:29 am
If Stiverne could get down to 230-235 he would be very similar to a prime ray mercer. But he will stay at 245 – 250 and when he faces Vitali he will fade after 4 rounds and be reduced to a slow moving target. He needs to drop 15 poundsPosted May 1, 2013 1:22 am
Based on his level of competition and history, I expected Chris to beat Stiverne handily. I was wrong, mostly becuase Arreola has really slipped as a fighter. Still tough as nails, but he was as good as he was going to get and is now on the downward slide. Hope he doesn’t blow up even more and become demented, because he is taking lots of punches now.Posted April 29, 2013 9:39 pm
Two out of shape guys embarrassing American HW. Stieverne got KO in like 2 rounds by Demetrece King who Fres Oquendo stopped his next fight. Anothe KO for a KLit vs a BumPosted April 29, 2013 7:54 pm
I will say that Stiverne went to the body and it was a CALCULATED attack that he discussed postfight after noting “the meat” that Arreola had hanging over his trunks… Its good to see a HW fighter work the body alot of these one dimensional headhunters forget how easy it can be to do effective body work…Posted April 29, 2013 7:50 pm
Arreola looked pathetic, he looked like an amateur. His corner never told him keep yopur distance with the jab. I think he threw the upper cut once a the whole fight. Honestly both of these fightrs suckPosted April 29, 2013 7:10 pm
Tark , You basically agree with what I said about the Vitaly – Arreola fight ,
If Arreola would just show more discipline in training, he’d have had a much better career and would’ve won this one… Oh well… Let’s get Deontay Wilder in against Stivern or Arreola… After that Wilder vs Fury!Posted April 29, 2013 1:49 pm
Lets see Tyson Fury vs Chris Arreola, Arreola still got enough left to KO the Fury !Posted April 29, 2013 1:41 pm
What impressed me most by Stivern was his good movement that made many of Arreola punches miss, or not hit with full effect……..even Arreola said he wasn’t expecting Stivern to move as much as he did…..too soon for a K brother, but could get into some good battles amongst other contenders.Posted April 29, 2013 1:37 pm
POW!!!!! Get that tub of lard out of here!Posted April 29, 2013 1:27 pm
The Mad Scientist
I’ve been done with Arreola since the Ademek fight, dude is just not serious about training hard to get in tip-top shape to make up for lack of skill or talent.Posted April 29, 2013 11:07 am
time for the pilsbury dough boy who conducts all his training camps at krispy kreme to retire.this fella is always, I repeat always out of condition, and it is disgraceful that he ,his advisers and his management all believe he is a professional sportsmen,proper boxers turn up for war in condition, not this tub of lard.Posted April 29, 2013 6:41 am
Arreola was too heavy and he was depending on just going in there and hitting Stivern with something big. I saw no technic there at all from him. Stivern however showed some technic. I like how he mixed it up and went to Arreola’s body quite a bit in the fight. Arreola better thank God that fight ended when it did because he was hurt BAD in that last round. I thought the ref was going to stop it for a moment there because Chris was laboring out there. Those body shots was having a HUGE EFFECT on him.Posted April 29, 2013 4:49 am
Chris Arreola is pathetic, I guaranty u that I would of done better in the fight, Chris threw one fricken uppr cut in the whole fight. He should look at Vitalys style and copy it if he did that he would of destroyed him. His little piece of crap low rider trainer has to fricken go. Arreola retire u lame piece of crap.Posted April 29, 2013 3:23 am
Arreola was not in shape; and Stivern made him pay big time with those body shots. 248 was TOO HEAVY. After that knockdown in the third it was downhill for him!!!!Posted April 29, 2013 2:35 am
Arreola severely underestimated Stivern who quickly overcame any stage-fright and gave Arreola a real boxing-punching lesson. those body-shots completely sapped the starch out of Arreola’s punches. not to mention that Arreola wasn’t throwing nearly enough to keep Stivern honest. back of the line and to the drawing board for Arreola. he’s gonna need a hot-streak of wins to get into serious title-contention again, which will mean a much busier schedule. don’t know if he’s got it in him but time will tell.Posted April 29, 2013 1:31 am
Look at Arreola’s face after Vitali and after Stivern… In addition to the facial mess Stivern created, Vitali landed less than 3 or 4 body shots in any round… Stivern ripped Arreola’s body in way you don’t see that often, particularly in the last round where he made a statement — just in case any judges were really stupid and half blind.
Obviously Vitali was a much greater fighter than Stivern is on the night he fought Arreola.. Arreola was better back then too, because he was undefeated and comparatively fresh.. That doesn’t leave any doubt about the physical beating and damage Arreola took from Stivern. I felt sorry for his daughter having to witness it. She was really sad.Posted April 29, 2013 12:15 am
I need to wipe my Tark better, it itches and smells funky
Thanks for that, it really helps a lot.Posted April 29, 2013 12:11 am
Sredmond…. You’re talking apples and oranges… Vitali outboxed Arreola every minute of every round… Obviously he beat him by a much bigger margin than Stivern did.. I said that already.
I was talking only about punishment… Stivern floored Arreola with a vicious right hander and had him going with numerous other head shots… He also ripped Arreola’s body with smashing left hooks and ritght hands that made Chris grunt and retreat…
It was a really bad physical beating… Not as bad on the scorecards… But I’m talking strictly about the physical beating Arreola took… It was more severe even though Stivern took more chances and got hit with more shots than Vtali did, which was almost none.
You know what I meant… You’re just want to be a jerk as usual… You’re a real ass.Posted April 29, 2013 12:01 am
Tark, is off his meds again Klitschko beat Arreola WORSE and a blind man could see that Chris could not even finish the fight and broke into TEARS… Stiverne did a damn good job on him but there is not a valid comparison… Arreola did NOT have a single second of success against Klitschko whereas he had his moments with Stiverne… AGAIN Tark is crazy and you guys know how much grief I give the Klits but I am NOT blind…I doubt Tark even saw the fight with his off the wall assessment…Posted April 28, 2013 11:17 pm
Great review! Thanks for the write-up!Posted April 28, 2013 11:05 pm
K-2- Fan…. Stivern DID beat Arreola worse than Vitali.. Actually they stopped the Vitali-Arreola fight before Vitali could beat Chris that badly.. That’s when Chris was undefeated and still had a future, so you don’t take chances with his health.
Arreola never hit Vitali good or hurt hm.. It was hopeless.. It’s harder to stop a fight that you have the potential of winning, even if you’re taking a beating. That’s the only reason they let Chris take a hammering like that. He hurt Stivern on a couple of occasions and even though he was way behind there was hope he could pull off a late rally and KO. It was a false hope. Stivern was never really hurt and his face was pretty much unmarked …. Arreola was a mess.Posted April 28, 2013 9:39 pm
Eleanore the Hag
Chris is a taco trying to get out of a burrito.Posted April 28, 2013 8:50 pm
Stiverne looked competent, hits quite hard etc, but nothing spectacular. He is a little slow, but was a little less open than Areola, who is crude and easy to hit. I’d rate Stiverne as top 20, maybe top 15, but not a top ten fighter, not yet anyway. He would have no chance against Vitali, Wlad or Haye, and i’d take Povetkin, Fury and Pulev to defeat him also.Posted April 28, 2013 7:50 pm
Chris needs to get the fk out of Boxing period, he’s becoming a joke in boxing, Mexicos Walrus must go away for the sake of Mexican Pride…Posted April 28, 2013 7:12 pm
it’s fun to read the comments here.how many of the commenters have been in a ring taking shots?thats what i thought. tark said it best.chris needs to get out of riverside,quit drinking beer,and eating whatever he’s eating and get a new team including a nutritionist,personal trainer,strength,cardio,and new boxing trainer.nothing against anyone that brought him to where he’s been.i mean,you don’t finish grade school and keep the same teacher in college.this is the college of hard knocks.as an amateur he wasn’t a heavyweight.i would like to see him get out of his comfort zone and come in around 225.he has heart,you can’t take that from him.we’ve seen lesser fighters come back from worse and accomplish a lot in boxing.Posted April 28, 2013 7:07 pm
I was quite impressed with Stivern last night/morning.
Arreola is NOT working on ANYTHING except his next plate of food… hes in his 30′ and still has not found the will to fight at his best weight… He will go back to bashing club fighters for awhile then step up and lose….He’s just NOT the package and prognosticating about what he could do if he wanted to do the work his a waste of time… Zab Judah has confounded fans for years marvelling at his talent which is far in excess of Arreolas, but he simply lacks the necessary makeup to capitalize and now he is 35 still adding to the loss column and discussing GodPosted April 28, 2013 3:42 pm
travis kauffman will ko bermane stivernePosted April 28, 2013 3:42 pm
Well I’ve said it many times, Arreola needs to work on his stamina and get in better shape. With that being said it is obvious that it will never happenPosted April 28, 2013 3:03 pm
Stvierne was lucky areola couldn’t punch more than 4 hard punches a round after round 4 because stivierne was very tired that said areola is and always will be a punching bag!Posted April 28, 2013 2:36 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Say what you want about B-Ware, that dude hits like a mule…Posted April 28, 2013 2:35 pm
… and the right hand that dropped Arreola in the 3rd was a beauty. Stivern look good. Nice to have some new blood in the top 10.Posted April 28, 2013 2:32 pm
3 losses fat boy,,,, 2 eastern European juice heads and a former football juice get the point idiot!!!! even the playing field!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted April 28, 2013 2:28 pm
Stiverne looked good, boxed well …. but I think he’ll struggle against the big guys. Wilder v Stiverne is a natural.Posted April 28, 2013 2:26 pm
Stiverne more juiced up than a florida CB!!! his bro knows…… Arreola needs to take a break if he is serious juice up for a year and come back muscled up!!!!!! you gotta do it fat aaaasssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted April 28, 2013 2:18 pm
Hey guys, thanks for the comments. I was writing this ringside literally as the fight played out, which made it hard to pick up on everything going on. Having talked to Arreola after the fight and watched a couple replays, here are some notes/updates:
1) Chris said that big shot in the 3rd broke his nose and he had trouble breathing after that. He also hurt his left arm and said that affected him jab. He said the layoff is what hurt him most and he wants to pick up the activity next year, do a repeat of 2011. He was joking around and being very cool, seemed to be in good spirits about the loss.
2) Stiverne had trouble climbing out of the ring after the fight; he was disoriented and needed help getting to the locker room. As I walked back through the tunnel to interview him, he was being carried out on a stretcher by the EMTs – must have had a pretty bad concussion.
3) I couldn’t believe Arreola stayed on his feet in that 12th round; he was badly hurt by those body shots from Stiverne. He showed tremendous heart to suck it up in a fight where he was clearly injured, and to finish on his feet.
4) I loved how Stiverne put a stamp on the fight by not coasting late; he went for the kill and finished strong. Too often we see guys coast in the championship rounds and give the bout away to the house fighter. Stiverne showed everyone how you close the show!Posted April 28, 2013 2:03 pm
I have to agree that Vitali beat Arreola in more dominant fashion that Stiverne and he was undefeated when Klits left him whining and stopped him… That said Stiverne put some hurt on him and hopefully kept his name out of discussion for anything major till the end of time…. The man does not like to train so who can have sympathy for him?Posted April 28, 2013 1:31 pm
Stiverne does have a soft spot there somewhere as he was tko’d by culub fighter Demetrice King who had a losing record. Later drew with another in Charles davis.Posted April 28, 2013 1:23 pm
Arreola should stay active, he’s still got a couple of money making years as a perennial contenteder anyway.Posted April 28, 2013 1:17 pm
The Mexican Walrus gets Beached once again.. another Mexican that flopped… and he was beaten by a Bum no less.. hopefully this fker will now go focus on what’s important.. getting a green card…Posted April 28, 2013 12:42 pm
Wlad will fight James Toney nextPosted April 28, 2013 12:26 pm
will be good to see stiverne vitali. Something different. Arreola can go now and give it upPosted April 28, 2013 11:55 am
FINALLY! Get this tub of lard out of here. He got truly exposed for the club fighter that he is. That big nose was easy to hit, so Stiverne broke it. Ha ha ha ha…..Posted April 28, 2013 11:23 am
Often , Tark has some valid and incisive opinions , but saying that ; ” Stiverine
JE, the heavies are not thick enough in talent to make Arreola and Stiverne ONLY Top-25 fighters. Stiverne is now probably skirting the top 10, maybe in it, and Arreola somewhere in the top 20.Posted April 28, 2013 10:48 am
First let me say Arreola has one hell of a heart — he took a beating yet he never gave up — never stopped trying to win. Only in the 12th when he really had nothing left, was getting ripped to the body, did he go into “punching-bag mode.” It was sad though that he showed up in such awful shape, again. There’s no excuse for that! That said, Stiverne is a very skilled heavyweight — he places his shots well, uses distance well, sets his man up, and has a decent arsenal of punches. He’s a good fighter and I’d like to see him in with another Top-10 heavy. Then, maybe then, if he wins again, would I like to see him in with a K brother.Posted April 28, 2013 10:45 am
This bout as a title “eliminator” was perfect. It eliminated any thoughts that either fighter should compete for a world heavyweight title. Neither fighter did a thing to suggest that a number 1 rating is validated. It was a fairly good action fight between two top 25-ish heavyweights who seem to be content to train some of the time. Neither as in the kind of physical condition we should expect to see when a world title shot is on the line.Posted April 28, 2013 10:39 am
Areola unfortunately typifies what’s wrong with the overweight division today. He hadn’t had a bout in over a year and showed up grossly over weight. The future belongs to meaner, leaner, hungrier up and comers like Mago, Wilder, Fury, Price, Browne, and Jennings.Posted April 28, 2013 10:28 am
Toneys totally washed up a shell of a once talented fighter…Posted April 28, 2013 10:17 am
browne just beat toney. Pretty much every round. Toney looked terriblePosted April 28, 2013 10:04 am
He did beat Price in the amateurs and edged Helenius.Posted April 28, 2013 8:19 am
I’m surprised that it went the distance considering the high percentage of ko’s on each of these guy’s records.Posted April 28, 2013 8:15 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Stiverne would do well in a match up with Commonwealth champion David Price.Posted April 28, 2013 6:58 am
how do u know arreola would beat pianeta.
Why the shock? Stiverne was always going to win this. Arreolla is hopelessPosted April 28, 2013 6:14 am
Arreola was broken by Klitschco,so comparing Klitschko’s performance to Stiverne’s is pointless,not to mention that Klitschko made him quit.
I still think Arreola and Fury would be funPosted April 28, 2013 5:36 am
I think that Arreola just earned a shot at Wlad….. :-))))Posted April 28, 2013 5:12 am
The thing that troubles me is cunninham, fury, arreola and stiverene would all beat pianetaPosted April 28, 2013 5:11 am
the voice of reason
Great review man – and finally, some (mostly ) constructive comments on this page. What a f***ing awesome fight this was!!! I knew it was gonna be a slugfest and it didnt let me down. Holy cow!!! One of the greatest heavyweight figts of all time. Chris should definately NOT retire – hes still a force to be reckoned with. As for stiverne – i see a world champion in there coming up to the mark real soon. Fantastic fightPosted April 28, 2013 5:08 am
Arreola is not the issue. He has taken everything seriously. He just faced a better fighter. Stiverne can jab, counter punch, has a good defense and hits really freaking hard. He has a chin and has heart. He has faced huge pressure from areola and still came through. Simple he is the better man. It is a good thing because arreola has 0 chance against vitali at least stiverne has a better chance.Posted April 28, 2013 4:29 am
arreola has lost his punch resistance, he is done. stiverne beat the fight out of him, much like lewis did to tua.Posted April 28, 2013 4:19 am
Arreola needs a no nonsense strength strength trainer… a no nonsense cardio trainer… a no nosense boxing trainer… and a no nonsense nutritionist … Then he needs a maintenance program for when he’s not in camp.
Stiverne beat Chris a lot worse than Klitschko or Adamek beat him, even though he took bigger punches because he’s not a real good heavyweight. Chris has gone backwards, and not by a little. I believe McCline would have beaten the fighter who fought tonight. Chris is softer, weaker, and slower… He has no jab… he can’t box… his ability to absorb punches is diminishing rapidly… he has a bunch of clowns in his corner… You can’t just tell a fighter to dig deep… You have to say, “Stop walking in without jabbing. Start using your jab or don’t come back to this corner. OK?” Make him answer. “You’re giving him opening bigger than the side of a barn. He couldn’t miss with his eyes closed.” and “Stop going for the home run with every punch. I need you to touch him. I need, feints, jabs, body shots, and combinations. He’s making a sucker out of you because you’re loading up missing big shots. Is this your 3rd fight? You know better than this Chris.” … A lot of times after a fighter banks 5 million dollars, they slack off like crazy after that.. You have to tell them to either eat right and train right or quit Boxing and get another job. Chris was in the worst physical condition I’ve ever seen, this side of a 43-year-old James Toney.Posted April 28, 2013 3:08 am
Arreola waited to long to take himself serious. He’s taking way too many punches and should retire ASAP. He did interview well and acted like a professional though,so I’ll give him credit for that.Posted April 28, 2013 2:25 am
I think Arreola is fast tummy sexyPosted April 28, 2013 1:54 am
Arreola should retire now.Posted April 28, 2013 1:37 am
Real name? Why is it of your concern? Do you take exception to the fact this article was a crap read? This article was amateurish, bias, infantile in its presentation and poorly constructed. How articles such as this get posted never ceases to amaze me. Just shows even the below average now have a platform to underwhelm people.Posted April 28, 2013 1:34 am
Stevene might is well go for the pay day with klit bros, he won’t win or make it past 6 rounds but it’s a pay day. The heavyweight division is a waste land, if any of the fighters had 80% of what tyson or holyfield, bowe, lennox, holmes had in their primes then we would see something. I watched the fight to see arreola take a beating, and yeah it turned out to be a gorefest.Posted April 28, 2013 1:34 am
stiverne basically ended arreolas dream of being champ tonite. either one still crushes fury.Posted April 28, 2013 1:08 am
ouch, they don’t need to come out of the backyard. don’t swim over to the atlantic.Posted April 28, 2013 12:57 am
wow, wish i’d seen this one. Stiverne might not be the greatest but it’s nice to see new blood in the top 15. He shouldn’t get a title shot yet but whatever, someone has to i guess.Posted April 28, 2013 12:56 am
What a superb fight. I just got back from the fight and can honestly say it was the most exciting fight i’ve seen in a long time. I was pretty shocked at how empty the stadium was though, coming from a small country like Scotland where big fights can sell out 15 – 20,000 seaters I was expecting a heavyweight title eliminator in California to be sold out, couldn’t believe how many empty seats there were. The crowd who did turn up made plenty of noise however and were treated to one of the most engaging brutal heavyweight contests in recent history. Hard luck Chris, you showed a lot of balls coming back from that brutal knockdown. Lets hope we see him back in the ring soon as he’s always good value for money. Well done Stiverne, he had a game plan and stuck to it rigidly, refusing to be drawn into a war.
@Fight Scribe – nice alt. What’s your real name?Posted April 28, 2013 12:42 am
Arreloa built his record on cream puffs and ate too many. See what happens when he fights upper level fighters and then this guy schools him. Stick to c level fighters chris because at best you’re a C+ fighter.Posted April 28, 2013 12:39 am
What an absolutely crap read! Waisted 1 minute of my life on this rubbish.Posted April 28, 2013 12:27 am
That is very close to how I predicted it and it is good news. Vitali beat the crap out of Arreola. He was too easy too hit. At least now we have someone dangerous challenging him. Stiverne has survived dealing with a massive pressure fighter, his chin and heart have been tested on the world stage. His has proven to have a good defense, a good jab and great counter punching ability combined with massive power and can fight an active high paced 12 rounds. Would like to see him against the great VitaliPosted April 28, 2013 12:14 am
Arreola is that chubby guy that got beat by Vitali K., Adamek, and now Stiverne. Expected him to beat Stiverne but I was surprised by how good the Hatian turned out to be. That kid has some skills to go along with his power, and his chin held up much better than I anticipated. This win by Stiverne was definitely more impressive than Adamek’s victory over Arreola. No way Stiverne beats either of the K. bros but I hope to see him in against a Haye, Fury, Wilder or Jennings sometime soon.Posted April 27, 2013 11:58 pm
Isn’t arreola the chubby guy that got beat by Adamek?Posted April 27, 2013 11:25 pm
Yeah, Stevene wins but he is not a serious contender for the belts and he is dumb enough to have Don King as his promoter. How can anyone be that stupid. Arreola is delusional even talking about beating Klitschko, either one.Posted April 27, 2013 11:12 pm
Well bugger me!Posted April 27, 2013 10:28 pm