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SREDMOND

This FOOL says ” I changed my screen name ONCE in 2 years from Gonzo Dragonborn to Gonzo of Nazareth” Did you REALLY ADMIT to that? and how OLD are you?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Guy you need to find a new site to accomodate your sadistic leanings seriously you belong on there with Adam Lanza and the rest of the School Shooters… Sad little ticking time bombs pissed off because they did not get laid in HighSchool… SMDH!!

Posted April 30, 2013 9:29 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

I’m done with you for now. I’ll let you have the last word because quite simply I’ve already devote more than enough of my precious time to your worthless ass. deep down we all know you know you got served again though and nothing gonna changer that amigo.

For those of you who aren’t aware.. Check out the Floyd-Guerrero thread on page 2 or 3 if you want to know the reason why SRED is still smarting over the utter humiliation I visited on him and why he felt the need to attack me in this thread. The silly fool walked straight into a trap I’d laid out for the Flomos like a headless chicken and then preceded to embarrass himself even further after he realized what he’d just done, including telling bare faced lie after lie. lololo

Posted April 30, 2013 5:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Purrity lost close to 40% of the time and don’t think I did NOT see you include those draws in the win column but why mince words… His record is that of a BUM and he retired with a BUMS record… Wlad got stopped by a guy with 13 losses thats just SHAMEFUL!!

Posted April 30, 2013 4:36 pm 


KMSTAR

Watched the Martinez/Murray fight yesterday and don’t really see what all the fuss is about. Murray did well, it was close, but Sergio won. The man spent most of the fight in a shell, and if he was able to successfully floor Martinez it was only because Sergio had to pretty much abandon defense just to coax Murray into a fight! Murray would have lost the fight 9 rounds to 3 if Sergio didn’t open up for him to encourage him to come out of his shell! Please go watch that fight again for the fans who actually think Murray deserved the nod. Sergio was gaming for the home crowd.

Posted April 30, 2013 2:33 pm 


TARK

Sred says…., “Puritty did his job predictably and LOST just a bit more than 50% of the time.”

Learn math you dumb ass..

Puritty had 54 fights and lost only 20… That’s a 37% loss ratio, not 51%.. Puritty doesn’t even have a KO ratio under 50%… We’re not talking a genius boxer or even a good boxer. Puritty was a very big and very tough man who gave some very good Heavweights fits, got robbed on occasion, and offered to fight anybody at any time. He was what he was, but he was never a bum.

Reporter, “Do you think you beat Morrison?”s

Puritty.., “HAHAHAHAHAHA… Do YOOOOU think I beat Morrison? Why ask the question if you didn’t think so? Take a poll of 20 fans. This is Boxing is it not? It’s part of the sport. It’s happened to me before. I’ll live with it.”

Posted April 30, 2013 11:17 am 


SREDMOND

ZZZZZZZ apparently YOU do thats why you are commenting I appreciate your patronage sniper!

Posted April 30, 2013 10:23 am 


chacos8

Martinez clearly lost the fight, what a theft in Buenos Aires…..

Posted April 30, 2013 9:05 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, who cares if Wlad stayed down he was DEEMED unfit to continue and he was in BAD shape, blown out in the second round during what was the “Upset of the Year” but for his cous de gras, Wlad then got TKOed 5 fights later so he was simply getting waxed on the reg back then… FACTS…It has taken him years to rebuild his rep credit to him but alas those nights are part of his history and will NOT be swept under the rug because of wins over OLD Thompson, Mormeck and this spate of no names he is rocking these days (Wach)

Posted April 30, 2013 6:27 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, first of all Purrity NEVER beat 2 HW Champions YOU are overrulling a draw against Morrison because you need to try and build up Purrity… His upsetting Wlad Klits does NOT change the overall tone of his career which was he was put in the ring for OTHER guys to pad their records with and to his credit he did his job predictably and LOST just a bit more than 50% of the time….Why all this energy trying to elevate Ross Purrity? Ooooooohhhhhhhh I know why, he EMBARASSED Wlad Klitschko so we have to somehow make him a dynamo… If Purrity was NOT a bum then Rahman and McCall must have been ATGs because BOTH were FAR more well regarded than that BUM Purrity… Get real Tark you are picking the WRONG battle as usual… Defending Ross Purritys stature? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

Posted April 30, 2013 6:24 am 


Farmboxer

zurdo is the clown

Posted April 30, 2013 12:49 am 


TARK

If Jake LaMotta is an ATG so is Martinez… LaMotta had 1 or 2 successful title defenses and a 28% KO ratio… He lost one Hell of a lot of fights. Martinez never really lost a fight legitimately, although this last fight he got a gift win. I guess what goes around comes around.

Chavez Jr was an undefeated World Champion and like 12 years younger. Pavlik had never been beaten at middleweight in his life before Martinez beat him. Martinez is a 2-Division World Champion. Paul Williams had like one defeat in 39 or 40 fights. Certainly Martinez is an ATG. I don’t think he would beat Monzon, but he’d beat one Hell of a lot of them. I see Hagler having trouble with a prime Martinez’s hand speed and boxing finesse, similar to what he faced with Leonard. Leonard was knocked down as many times as Martinez, and had far fewer fights. Martinez was also a welterweight like Leonard who won the middleweight champonship. Leonard refused to fight Mike McCallum, Micheal Nunn, Julian Jackson, or some of the scary middleweights of that era.. He was stripped of the middleweight title.. He picked is own opponents and never defended the middleweight title he won from Hagler.

Posted April 30, 2013 12:02 am 


zurdo40

Martinez… an all time great??? How many divisions he won?? Just one.
Was a lineal champ?? No. How many fights had ?? 40 or 50. Which were his bigger victories?? Chavez Jr. Williams and Pavlik. were they great or at least good fighters? no.
How many visited the canvas. At least 3. was he a big boxing attraction?? No.
How in the hell this clown could be an all time great?????

Posted April 29, 2013 11:46 pm 


TARK

Sredmond… Nobody who beats 2 Heavyweight Champions is a BUM.. Most everyone who watched the Morrison-Puritty fight says Puritty won. Wladimir won every round vs Puritty until the 10th.. He was sick prior to that fight and underweight.. He never came within 10 pounds of being that light in his entire career after that.. He didn’t feel good but he thought he could beat Puritty. He didn’t realize Puritty took a punch so well and eventually he ran out of gas. It wasn’t a chin issue, and sometimes you just lose to somebody you should beat. It happens. You’re not 100% every time you go.

As far as getting knocked down—Sanders knocked him down 4 times but he didn’t stay down. He got up every time and it was the referee’s call. Peter put him down 3 times but he wasn’t hurt AT ALL. He got up, performed very well, and won the fight convincingly. Williamson scored a flash knockdown and those things happen. He won that one too. Wladimir was beating the daylights out of Lamon Brewster as well, knocking him down and out-boxing him 11 ways to Tuesday for 4 rounds. Then he mysteriously lost all his strength and energy and couldn’t perform. He was so weak he was defenseless. He took massive punches, and lost. But he hasn’t lost in almost 10 years since—and even you know he’s become one of the most significant Heavyweight Champions of all time during that period, where he seems to keep getting better and better, even at 37.

Posted April 29, 2013 11:44 pm 


TARK

I’m not playing cop… I just find the history very interesting… NO knockouts after he was caught cheating — plenty of knockouts before that.

Posted April 29, 2013 11:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Martinez LOST to Margarito and your AFTER the fact forensics mean NOTHING Tark please spare us… We KNOW that Margarito had illegal wraps against Mosley before he was caught beyond that the rest of these guys have to eat their losses… Martinez has to eat that “L” and he moved on with his career winning titles at 154 and 160 no need to deviate the facts or play “Keystone Cop” with your Keyboard…

Posted April 29, 2013 11:03 pm 


Hidalgo

“Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez also had an excuse. He suffered a broken left hand early in the fight, which hampered him greatly in defending against Muray’s right. Zab had no such excuse.” Broken hand? Oh! This is new to me.

Posted April 29, 2013 10:56 pm 


TARK

I find it interesting that MargaCheato hasn’t recorded EVEN ONE stoppage in several fights since his was caught with plastered wraps—but he recorded the ONLY stoppage in Sergio Martinez’s 55 bout, 16-year pro career. What happened to Cheato’s power after he was caught cheating—and was being watched with an eagle’s eye?

After watching the Martinez-Cheato fight I can say Cheato almost certainly employed plastered handwraps. Pastered wraps in Boxing are nothing new—they’ve been in used by cheaters for over 100 years. Even today there are instances where members of the opponent’s team are not allowed in the dressing room to inspect the wrapping or the gloves. Ask Lamon Brewster about this when he fought Robert Helenius. Sometimes objections to damp or funny looking wraps are rejected by a commissioner present. This is less frequent in the past few years because of Cheato, and the knowledge of CTE, progressive brain damage from impact sports.

Martinez was out-boxing, out-speeding, and out-landing Cheato early but every grazing shot Cheato landed seemed to have damaging impact. When a fighter has plastered wraps he will take a punch to give a punch—because his punches do more damage. The opponent starts fighting defensively and uncharacteristically. He simply can’t absorb the blows. The stoppage is usually not clean. The damaged fighter cowers and slumps under a barrage of blows—or simply quits because he’s getting battered. Joe Cortez rescued a defensive, reeling, and slumping Martinez.

Posted April 29, 2013 10:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, trying to appoint yourself as a morality cop discussing the lives of boxers which are peripheral to the sport is pure comedy… Your reputation is TERRIBLE and you would stand up for a MASS MURDERER if he was one of your favored fighters… I really don’t know or care about Broners past I watch fights and discuss FACTS related to the sport… We have these UK fighters like Hatton and Calzaghe riffing lines like its an Olympic sport but OH WELL…. But back to the matter at hand you are the SAME guy that discussed “killing boxers” “mangling genetalia” and “attacking posters outright” do you deny your statements?? PLEASE DO because it will be seen that I shamed you into running away from the filthy indentity you have cultivated on ESB…. Don’t be a “puzzzzy” nothing worse than a pathetic internet PUNK trying to become an ESB activist stay consistent… I see you reaching out for support because now that I have taken a min to call you out its no fun….. Thats a FAVORITE Bears tactic trying to garner support from other posters and its a SIGN Of weakness and psychological capitulation that always lets me know I am in the mind of an adversary like a worm boring thru your brain…. Dude you are a serious JERK on the boards you love to make threats YOU NEVER back up…. Seriously small town boy stay in your place and make sure the horses have some fresh hay and water whats that hamlet you live in again?

Posted April 29, 2013 10:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, as for Brewster and Sanders becoming HW Champions the common denominator is that they attained that distinction by beating the SAME weak chinned then WBO HW Champion so lets not get it twisted… Wlad was getting knocked down and OUT by everyone during that sorrid 8 fight stanza between Sanders and Peter, Brewster was the 5th fight after Sanders so pumping these guys after beating Wlad is what it is…. At least Brewser got in a defense or two whereas Sanders lost to his brother via stoppage and was NEVER heard from again… We are NOT fooled neither man really thrived after stopping Klits and Purrity went back to being a BUM booking MORE losses and draws…

Posted April 29, 2013 10:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Te Tumbo, either you allow for fighters to improve or you don’t Margarito was a HARD guy and he caught Martinez at the right time(kudos to Antonio).. AGAIN we can ask questions of Klitschko and Marquez as well both men exhibited late career improvements but I don’t play childish games like that… Some fighters fare better as they no longer have to make weight and a guy who his fast at 147 is going to look faster at 154 and 160 where guys are not as quick of hand… I know you believe that Margarito was given chloroform and Capetillo strapped illegal wraps to his hands certainly you must entertain the possibility that Martinez simply improved as a fighter…. I mean its not as if we are discussing Chavez Jr who actually tested positive for a dieuretic? Clearly you are a reasoned man who has shown unusual tolerance for fighters who have documented run in’s with the commissions? I say we avoid smearing those who have not been busted out of character…Your thoughts?

Posted April 29, 2013 10:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, if Ross Purrity is NOT considered a BUM then who is? He had 13 losses when he faced Wlad and retired with 20 losses… You said “he won most of his fights” If memory serves me he retired 31-20, yeah thats called a journeyman AKA BUM…. So what he knocked Morrison down 2x and got a draw which is NOT a win… I know you will try to rewrite history in a VAIN attempt to build up Purritys cache but he was a woeful stepping stone fighter there for Wlad to LOSE and just because Wlad failed in his mission it does NOT elevate Purrity historically….Before he beat Klitschko he had 4 two fight losing streaks and leading up to Wlad a 3 fight losing streak broken ONLY by a no name fighter then he bagged Klitschko…. Sorry kid Purrity was a BUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!

Posted April 29, 2013 10:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Gonzo, are you NOW disavowing your prior statements about Broner juicing and really being a 154 pound fighter? AGAIN we have you BY yourself attempting to laud yourself as “The Greatest Poster on ESB” can you tell us when the election was and who participated in it? who counted the votes and who nominated you? Ohhhhhhhh that all occured in your head? Why do you strive to “Be the Greatest Poster on ESB” I assume this would be your pinnacle acheivement in life if it were even close to true…AGAIN what does Broner have to do with James Toney, Fernando Vargas and Lamont Peterson all men who have FAILED drug tests both Vargas and Toney the standard and least sophisticated tests and Peterson VADA…. AGAIN you are insinuating that Broner is a “cheater” because you don’t like him for beating your countryman Gavin Rees like a disrespectful SERF… I have you COWED and attempting new tatics absent your well worn routines regarding “Porn” and making threats…. AGAIN I ask when and who elected you “Best Poster” on ESB? You are TERRIBLE and your contempt for the facts is legendary…. You cannot smear Broner because other US based fighters have tested positive or do you believe that PED usage is confined to the US? Eastern European countries have been RIFE with usage throughout the decades dating back to the 60’s and earlier… AGAIN I only deal with hard evidence you have validated my point that you accused Broner simply because you do NOT like him…. I have already told you that “AD” is 100000 times more insightful intelligent and articulate than you as a poster… You’re an internet CLOWN who calls himself a different screen name every week, now you are trying to ride the Jesus, coattails “Gonzo of Nazareth” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted April 29, 2013 10:02 pm 


te tumbo

no one’s measuring Martinez according to his loss v. Margarito only pointing out that it was a legitimate loss. bad night and all. as far as him becoming quicker, stronger, more durable, and older(?), it’s a legitimate question. Btw, Marquez responded to the same question(s) in unequivocal fashion. with detailed and documented evidence of his preparation for a fight. it’s intensity, its duration. made perfect sense to me. i’m not demanding the same from Martinez (unless it’s the answer) but there’s no comparison between merely wondering about Martinez’s condition and the hard, scientific evidence that Marquez has shared to explain his fighting condition. no need to stretch the discussion to those extremes.

Posted April 29, 2013 9:46 pm 


TARK

There Sredmond goes again… The professional hater of the Klitschkos calling Ross Puritty a BUM. Puritty won most of his fights and floored Tommy Morrison—who’s record was 42-2 at the time—twice. Just about everyone who saw that “draw” says Purrity won. That gives Purrity victories over 2 Heavyweight Champions. Purrity also went the distance with Michael Grant, Corrie Sanders, Larry Donald, Kirk Johnson, and stopped well know Heavyweights Jorge Gonzales and Joe Hipp. Puritty was a main event Heavyweight for a long time. He appeared in many nationally televised fights. Obviously Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster, who were both Heavyweight Champions, weren’t B and C level fighters. You’re full of hatred Sred. Give it up.

Posted April 29, 2013 9:42 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#1

Posted April 29, 2013 9:37 pm 


SREDMOND

Measuring Martinez by a bad night against a hard man like Margarito YEARS ago is laughable… Wlad Klits turnaround is WAY more noteworthy he got stopped 3x in his first 45 fights by a BUM and a C and B level fighter… Then he went on a historically relevant run at HW… I don’t accuse Wlad of jucing absent proof its not my thing…So what Martinez lost to Margarito he was off our radar for years till we realized what a weird and quirky fighter he was…Very hard style to defend and he was faster than almost everyone at 154 and certainly 160…. Marquez who is one of my favorite fighters enjoyed his BIGGEST win and a sculpted physique mere seconds away from his 40th birthday but I have stood up for Marquez countless times because he has passed the tests that 99% of the boxing world goes thru and has never pissed dirty…. We can find reason to accuse EVERYONE if we try hard enough but thats just SOUR grapes… Martinez has done well, now he is looks vulnerabe what we do KNOW is that logically its closer to the end than the beginning for Martinez who is 38 and battling injuries against guys that are a decade younger…

Posted April 29, 2013 8:07 pm 


SREDMOND

SC’s attempt to tie Martinez former cycling career to PED’s is desperation at its finest… Cycling is rife with PED usage but that hardly brands Martinez as a cheat and his cylcing career is a footnote in the story of his athletic ascent… There is a CLEAR pattern emerging amongst guys like Gonzo, Traveller, and Supreme Court they will begin PED accusations against ANY fighter that they do NOT favor… This BIAS is utterly clear, I have heard Traveller call EVERYONE “a doped up Yank” Gonzo has accused Broner absent a shred of proof, Supreme Court goes after Pacquiao and now Martinez… AGAIN we have ACTUAL and demonstrable in ring results YET these desperarados deteriorate into wild speculation and accusations to detract from the fighters and in the process the ENTIRE sport…..It is a WEAK an ineffective ploy that ONLY flys with the childlike elements on ESB who lack critical thinking skills and the need to use their “gut instinct” to figure things out…. Listening to these guys about certain fighters is like considering Public Enemy as objective about Mexican fighters….Argue facts not fiction

Posted April 29, 2013 7:59 pm 


Luke

From this point on you can refer to “concrete proof” as “Margi’cheato proof!!”

Posted April 29, 2013 6:40 pm 


Luke

The writer claims one of the reasons Sergio won the fight was because he won the 12th…if my basic math serves me, based on the final scores, he did not need to win the 12th to get the nod……I think this one was VERY difficult to score. Te brit definitely had the more dominant rounds, but his work rate was low. Harold, I think, gave the 1st 5 rounds to Sergio and they were all extremely close…I don’t think it was a knockdown in the 10th…and, what does the Argentine media know about boxing?? Probably about as much as most of the writers on this site!!

Posted April 29, 2013 6:38 pm 


PEEJ

There is concrete proof of Armstrong cheating. Plus he admitted. Armstrong will be broke in the near future by everybody he threatened and sued to keep there mouth shut

Posted April 29, 2013 6:21 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez got a home decision. Murray won that fight and should of been credited with 2 knockdowns

Posted April 29, 2013 6:11 pm 


TARK

Lance Armstrong adimtted his cheating to everyone in the world during the Oprah Winfrey interview. He said he took all kinds of PED’s… Absolute proof came out when they tested his frozen urine samples with updated methodology years later… From now on they’re keeping Olympian samples in frozen storage for decades — for retesting every 5 to 10 years with updated science … so far fewer athletes will dare cheat.. They had fewer cheats in the 2012 Olympics than ever — and more world records broken.

I think it’s interesting that PEDs were perfectly legal in the 1970’s but almost all the world records from that era have been smashed by drug-free modern athletes.

Posted April 29, 2013 6:03 pm 


Supreme Court

Up to now, there is no “concrete proof” against Lance Amstrong….
Nuff said…
Where was Martinez’s extreme athleticism when he was younger?
Where was his power when he was younger?
———————————————————————–
Even Argentinian local press are stating that Martinez lost!!!!!!!!!!

Posted April 29, 2013 5:26 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Coming from Brooklyn gives a fighter at least at 35-40% over a non Brooklyn fighter.

Posted April 29, 2013 5:22 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Sergio was much more impressive for me not only because he actually won his fight, but because he also had to fight through the huge handicap of not coming from Brooklyn like Zab does.

Posted April 29, 2013 5:20 pm 


te tumbo

Garcia is a smart, tough, and skilled fighter. the cornerstones of his ring-profile are poise, focus, and execution. moreover, he gets a solid “B” in virtually every skill category. this combination of fighting ability is what makes Garcia such a formidable opponent. he’s exceedingly steady, consistently dangerous, and doesn’t overreact to developments in a boxing ring. i’m eager to see him v. a Mathysse, Thurman, or Alvarado. same with Khan. mutual wins v. this level of comp would definitely justify a rematch but at this point, 50-50 describes the odds of this happening.

Posted April 29, 2013 3:55 pm 


te tumbo

SC, logic and common sense don’t regularly factor into the opinions of ESB’s resident “experts”. their favorites are saints and ATGs in the making and others are subjected to restraint and skepticism usually reserved for the regular suspects. fortunately, their habit of attempting to compel reality to conform to their “expert” biases and expectations is what makes it so easy for me to take credit for simply reporting events that have actually happened or could realistically happen with a minimal of imagination beyond what i’ve already seen with my own eyes.

Posted April 29, 2013 3:46 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I SAID that Martinez and Garcia would WIN and I was CORRECT!!

Posted April 29, 2013 3:42 pm 


MIKE

After seeing Maravila’s last performance, i think GGG will knock him out in 8 or 9 rounds. His has to much mileage on him + the age.

Posted April 29, 2013 3:35 pm 


Supreme Court

Not to mention, Te Tumbo, that Martinez started his career in a sport notoriously known for the universal use of PEDs….
Just like Chemical Pacquio, Martinez’s biological performances defies the law of Biology…..And since the same causes have the same effects, don’t be shocked when his face is planted into a canvas….

Posted April 29, 2013 3:20 pm 


boxing man

both fighters did a great job…

Posted April 29, 2013 3:09 pm 


te tumbo

“. . . the first legitimate loss for Martinez in his 55 bout career”. WRONG (again). Martinez’s first legitimate loss occurred in 2000 v. an equally green but prime Margarito. the fight can be seen on YouTube and it is a relatively pedestrian win over a fighter who simply gassed-out and wasn’t ready for the do-or-die intensity that Margarito brought to their fight. fortunately(?), as Martinez has aged, he’s become quicker, stronger, and more durable. Tark can’t possibly explain it but it also doesn’t raise any red flags on his selective radar.

Posted April 29, 2013 3:04 pm 


te tumbo

what Judah did well was completely neutralize Garcia’s left-hook and NOT wilt or fade in the later rounds. even after having his bell rung pretty good. instead Zab came on strong and put Garcia through a pro-ringer that only an experienced veteran like Judah can finally do and for the first time in Judah’s career, his stock didn’t drop after another dissapointing loss. Mathysse deserves a rematch.

Posted April 29, 2013 3:01 pm 


malachi

tark…good read my man…eazy!!

Posted April 29, 2013 2:51 pm 


malachi

oh yeah and martinez lost that fight i dont care how you twist it ,screw all that show boating he was doing at the end ,murray put in the most work and was the most effective resulting in the win and of course that was a knockdown/but we know how the story goes…….eazy!

Posted April 29, 2013 2:40 pm 


malachi

maaaan`stop trying to diss judah,he put on a good fight and gave everybody who appreciates boxing a real show i think golden boy should set him up for another title fight just from how they treated him alone, if there were 1 more round judah prob would have knocked danny out i was on my couch yelling for judah to take it home,danny looked confused in there after judah took control but danny showed to be a good champion especially after the fight ,he said some very inspireing words for zabb…….yezzzir!

Posted April 29, 2013 2:36 pm 


bald_head_slick

This writer is an IDIOT. Garcia is a full ten years younger than Zab in REAL years let alone ring wear. Exploding to beat people to the punch takes lots of stamina. Zab did what any crafty vet would do, keep stepping into range and wait the kid out until enough steam was off the punches for him to beat the kid to the punch with a reasonable amount of risk.

Then to say Garcia’s right hands were “wild”? WTF? Garcia was skillfully mixing up straight rights, hooks, and wide looping hooks at different levels to confuse Zab’s tight defense. He was attempting to make Zab pay EVERY time he came in range. Also, that kid Garcia punches HARD.

This writer, like most writers, needs to stop hating and start learning more about the sport.

Posted April 29, 2013 2:29 pm 


philly shell

It’s easy to say that Judah let Garcia “”tee off” on him, but a lot different when you’re actually in the ring. I thought Judah did a great job in the latter rounds, and he did win the championship rounds. Turned out to be a much better fight than I expected – great job by Garcia and Judah!

Posted April 29, 2013 2:11 pm 


TARK

The 2 fights are simply not comparable… The writer is way off track.

Murray was an unknown contender who was hand-picked by Martinez to showcase his talents in his native country. If the decision went to Murray it would have been the first legitimate loss for Martinez in his 55 bout career. However there was little doubt in either corner that the decision would go to Martinez because Murray’s margin of superiority was not substantial enough to win in Buenos Aires. Murray fought as well as he could against one of the best boxers in the world—a dangerous puncher and elusive masterful boxer with speedy hands and feet. Murray fought patiently and tried to make his shots count. He scored 2 knockdowns and definitely hurt Martinez a few times. If Canelo can’t get Mayweather, I would advise his promoters to pursue Martinez for a middleweight title shot in the Alamodome. The money would be hard for Martinez to resist and it would be a blockbuster PPV. Sergio is on the slide and Canelo is naturally bigger and stronger.

Judah is 35, and not as fast, strong, or tough as the youthful Garcia. Zab is vastly more experienced having fought more World Championship rounds than Garcia has fought rounds. Judah has more KO’s than Garcia has fights. The other major advantage for Judah is his southpaw style. Garcia has no idea how to modify his stance and footwork for a crafty southpaw, making his jab and lead left hook almost useless. Garcia worked around this by landing a rain of quick right hands and double rights. He mixed in some follow-up lefts that his better right hand connects set up. Zab’s fantastic physical conditioning, preparation, and resolute determination paid off in rounds 10, 11, and 12. It was a case of the quicker, stronger, tougher, younger, and better athlete beating the technically and strategically superior, and resolutely determined veteran—where Martinez-Murray was a case of a slower, bigger, stronger, and more patient challenger narrowly besting a physically gifted, technically masterful, but fading ATG. If Martinez found boxing at a younger age, he would be a widely acknowledged ATG.

Posted April 29, 2013 1:23 pm 


Anonymous

Sounds like a hate article on zab to me..

Posted April 29, 2013 12:05 pm 


Titopa

IMO. Zab was the most impressive (then Diaz), I truly thought that Danny’s power/aggression would be too much for Zab, I thought he’d quit (mentally) around the 8th round or so, but man, he hung in there and managed to use his greater ring experience to put some HURT on the young Garcia, in rounds 10-12, Zab was ROCKING him, landing bombs….he just didn’t do enough in the early rounds, had he started earlier (5-8), we may have witnessed Zab’s greatest win to date…I think he could’ve stopped Garcia in rounds 11-12. What a fight, I enjoyed EVERY SECOND!!!

Posted April 29, 2013 11:32 am 


Caper

I stopped reading after the author mention gracias right hands where “wild” he threw short rights long rights and looping rights all which served a purpose, I was actually impressed with Danny’s versatility and he’s vulnerability towards the end allows him to be quite marketable.

Posted April 29, 2013 11:29 am 



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