Wrong Terror Tim… For every 10,000 I bet it paid off 1400.. The odds I got were -700 not -1200.. I would never bet at -1200. It’s a sucker bet.
When I said -1200 that’s what I calculated the odds should be if the odds reflected the risk accurately — a lot worse than what they were because a lot of fans were betting on RG, which obviously skews the odds.Posted May 5, 2013 7:45 pm
TARK, the odds for the fight I saw where about -1200 which is why I said it isn’t a good bet. Sure its easy money but there is no payout so in reality it isn’t easy money. Unless you have 10K you can put up and not worry about losing this you didn’t make anything last night. If you but a thousand on it you only made 80 bucks. Sure the risk is low but the money you have to put up isn’t worth it to make so little. It just isn’t, sooner or later you get burned betting on favorites like that and how many more times do you have to be right to make that money back? I bet on a lot of sports and I promise you that is no way to go about it.Posted May 5, 2013 12:42 pm
What I say to Terror Tim and Hecdog is this fight was easy money… You make most of your money betting on favorites where everyone thinks they’re going to win — but the odds really don’t reflect how superior they are.. This fight should have been -1200 on Floyd, at least.
If Floyd fights Canelo next, that will probably not be a good fight to bet on… If he fights Broner that will probably not be good either… Both of them would be big risks either way. But if he fights Khan.. That will probably be good depending on the odds.Posted May 5, 2013 1:18 am
Boxtradamus, Where the hell was that upset you predicted? You’d better stop predicting fight outcomes you fake! You are the Greatest Fake ever born.Posted May 5, 2013 1:06 am
i want some!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted May 4, 2013 10:30 pm
Me tooPosted May 4, 2013 10:28 pm
Boxtradamus, Please show up here after the main event finishes, and try to remember exactly what you said in your prediction.Posted May 4, 2013 10:07 pm
“Mayweather hasnt stopped anyone since 2007!” Obviously you didn’t see Mayweather KO Ortiz.Posted May 4, 2013 9:26 pm
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.. Stocks n shares? this sites gone to the dogs TT LOLPosted May 4, 2013 5:57 pm
TARK, I am not sure how much you invest but the investment you build by investing in stocks is usually a low risk. Sure it takes 10 years to make the money but you aren’t risking much up front and can pull out before it gets too bad. You will never loose it all. Sports betting isn’t like that. You have to risk a lot to win very little which is not like 401K or what the average investor does. The average investor puts in a little money out of every pay check and watches it grow. That is almost the exact opposite of risking a lot of money for very little like you do betting tonight. Looking at it from an investment point of view is the exact reason why I say there is no bet today. Its a bad investment because the payout is so little. I am not going to lay down 10K to win $800 which was the odds the last time I checked. I hit on Hopkins and Banks this year. I will wait for another one of those types to crop up. Wish I would have seen some of the recent upsets we been having. Good year for betting if you can get em right.Posted May 4, 2013 5:18 pm
ANOTHER EASY BORING PPV EVENT, I hope the Mexican community goes out and Celebrate and out dancing instead of watching this BORING PPV EVENT.Posted May 4, 2013 4:56 pm
I know to RUN and I know how to AVOID thats why I always count your money(PPV) when my CHERRYPICKIN is done……Floyd MayweatherPosted May 4, 2013 4:53 pm
Moral of the Story,
You got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em,
Floyd Money MayweatherPosted May 4, 2013 4:45 pm
Terror Tim… In a way you’re right. You are always taking a risk whether you bet a dollar or 10,000 dollars. 100,000 in the stock market could be 50,000 in a year. It might take you 10 years to break even, or you could go broke. But you could grow 100,000 to over 1,000,000 in 10 years if most of your picks come through. That’s 26% compounded ann. Maybe you’re good at picking winning stocks. There’s tons of reliable data on public companies.
Same with successful sports betting. You have to know Boxing much better than the average bettor. If you can estimate a boxer’s chances you can check the odds and calculate if there’s a bet. If you decide Floyd is a bet you can make you 14% quickly. You might lose (NSS) but there’ll be another solid bet next week or in 2 months. If you win 8 of 10 bets a year you’ll clean up. If there’s a very small risk you can’t make much money—but its easy money. Betting on favorites ALL the time would kill you. If you think the favorite has an even shot—i.e. Donaire-Rigondeaux—then go with the underdog. Not rocket science.
I hear you Hecdog.Posted May 4, 2013 3:58 pm
There could be head clashes in this one…..It’s not unheard of in s/paw fights..Some people are saying Bob is taller than Floyd,but they are both listed as 5’8”……..Posted May 4, 2013 3:55 pm
Tark, there’s nothing better than an old fashion boxing match to debate. Truth is, you never know how each fighter is going to deal with thins once they’re in there. Floyd has a ton of experience, and he’s been here before, but I like everything about Guerrero. He’s not great at any one thing, but his youth, tenacity and his ring smarts are going to help him a lot. Physically, Guerrero’s height and length will give Floyd some trouble. My money is on Guerrero. Mares and De Leon should also be a great fight. De Leon isn’t the most skilled, but he’s awkward and carries power. He’s going to have to nail Mares clean to win. Mares looks like he physically he’s filled out and may be even better. Taking Mares, but there’s always a punchers chance.Posted May 4, 2013 2:55 pm
Floyd will beat Guerrero! He knows how to tell if a fighter is shot. After the beating Guerrero got from Berto…man, Floyd will have an easy night fighting this war torn fighter. That’s just the way Floyd cherry pick his next opponent…you have to be old or shot fighter.Posted May 4, 2013 1:33 pm
I root for Robert Guerrero, but honestly, I just can’t see him winning. He can prove me wrong though. He must do something really really special on this fight. Keys for a Guerrero win: bully Floyd, catch him big on the ropes, pound the body, counter him (possible), and if it comes to it, fight a dirty brawl inside.Posted May 4, 2013 1:28 pm
Hidalgo – ” One thing I do like about Robert is that he likes to mix it up in a fight. He’ll brawl, box, and cheat. Very versatile even if not so ethical.” then why were you crying about Ortiz getting sucker punched by Floyd after headbutting Floyd. You’re some piece of work.Posted May 4, 2013 1:22 pm
There is no bet for Floyd. Sure you can but your return investment is such a joke that the bet isn’t worth laying. You have to put down 10K just to get an amount back that was worth it. Now if you think Guerrero has a decent shot tonight lay a small wager on him. It pays back so well that you don’t have to make it a small fortune. That is betters will tell you there is no bet tonight. Just like in the Wladimir fight today. Unless you think there will be an upset there is no point in risking the money to bet on Wlad. Risking 10K to win a a thousand or less just isn’t worth it. A bad cut can screw you at that point. I like to bet but I like my money as well.Posted May 4, 2013 1:18 pm
Look for RG to fight the fight of his life. He has experienced great trials in his personal (moreso than any past or future in his pro life)and professional life. He is ready for this challenge. For FMJ, to whom much is given, much is expected. Without doubt, both of these boxers are blessed. It would be speculation to pick a winner, however a few thought provoking questions remain in my mind: Has time off and age gotten to one of, if not the GOAT? Will a desperately hungry warrior be able to rise to the occasion; not only see an opening but take advantage on the biggest stage of his career to acheive what no other boxer has been able to do against FMJ? Does FMJ cruise to another UD? Does RG have no choice but to get a stoppage in fear of losing on the cards? If either fighter is tagged solidly and dropped, how will they react in the following moments? One thing that is a fact is that all predictions are nothing but speculations. Nobody knows what will take place. Nobody is invincible and 2 fighters don’t plan to lose in this fight. Hopefully this is a well called/scored contest both ways and both fighters are not badly injured. God’s will be done.Posted May 4, 2013 1:17 pm
Hecdog…, You’re pretty damned sure about this.. You can make a fortune if you back your rock solid conviction up with money.. I see Floyd at -1200 so I think he’s a pretty fair bet for this particular fight.. Not a fabulous bet, but with an 8% to 9% chance of losing, I feel my money is reasonably safe.. From your perspective, Floyd being -700 or so should be an extremely juicy bet, so I would lay down a small fortune if I saw it your way. You gain will be so tremendous vs the miserly return us Floyd bettors can get if you’re wrong.Posted May 4, 2013 1:09 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
I doubt it but I hope you are right dog…Posted May 4, 2013 12:35 pm
The moment of truth has arrived. From day 1 I have picked Guerrero to pull off the upset, and I stand by it. Floyd will have to be at his best in every facet of boxing. Counter, move, box. Unfortunately, he’s facing a determined hungry young southpaw that will catch him with right hooks and possibly drop Floyd with the straight left hand. After round 6, Guerrero’s accumulation of punches will start to wear Floyd down. Floyd will fight back because he does have a fighting spirit, but it’s Guerrero that has the Holy Spirit that will give him the physical and spiritual strength to dig down a little deeper than Floyd. Guerrero is going to get hit, but by the end of the 9th round, Floyd will be looking for help. The referee stops the fight in round 11. We have a new champion. Robert Guerrero shocks the doubters, and makes believers out of millions. And all those that doubted him need to attend church services the following day. Trust me on this one.Posted May 4, 2013 12:27 pm
I doubt Mayweather is going to TKO Guerrero. Berto landed some huge shots on Guerrero and lots of them. I’m pretty certain Mayweather doesn’t have that kind of power. However, I do think Mayweather can squeeze out a UD, but that’s about it.Posted May 4, 2013 11:44 am
The world according to Vivek…
“Guerrero has no idea what level of competition he’ll enter the ring with.” Hmmm.. Since Guerrero never heard of Mayweather—isn’t aware he’s the world’s best fighter—isn’t an experienced professional fighter at the championship level—and hasn’t studied Floyd’s fights to develop a game plan—he has no clue what he’s getting in to. Must live under a rock.
“Unconditioned” Unconditioned means without conditions. No one fights without those. Robert knows his cardio needs to be superb for this one. Not a revelation.
“Physically, such deterioration can cause interesting reactions. One is more frequent swelling.” Is this a new medical finding? You cut your food intake for 90 days—and many months later you start swelling up? We ought to alert Jenny Craig about this.Posted May 4, 2013 11:43 am
Mayweather hasnt stopped anyone since 2007!Posted May 4, 2013 11:41 am
i see this fight as a real mismatch – guererro is good but dont have anything special (not a big puncher – not the bst techincian ) so really will be either very easy ud or late stoppage win for fm.
two good catches: Vivek will frequently compromise accuracy and credibility for amateurish attempts at alliteration or some other literary indulgence and Guerrero is only as “Mexican” as Mayweather is African. of course, it’s always been obvious who Vivek considers to be more American than “Mexicans”. those who were dragged across an entire ocean and introduced to America as private property. you’d think it was the other way around the way Vivek consistently emphasizes one’s nationality as more authentic than that of the “Mexican”. similar to Juan Williams’ profiling of Muslims based on how they dressed and what they worshipped. a devious attempt to keep certain people in their place. for “Mexicans” that place actually is Anahuac aka “America”.Posted May 4, 2013 10:31 am
“A very spirited Mexican warrior with a lot of heart” One more thing, Vivek, Robert Guerrero is an American who was born in Gilroy, California. He may be of Mexican descent, but the man is an American.Posted May 4, 2013 10:11 am
“…between the calendar year of 2012 and current…All the men who dominated the sport in close proximity to Mayweather saw things come to an abrupt end. Cotto, Pacquiao, Margarito, Williams, and Mosley were each ushered one by one to the doorstep of retirement.”
Sorry Vivek, the above phrases sound poetic but that ain’t quite right: Williams was slam-dunked out of boxing by a tragic motorycle accident. He’s paralyzed from the waste down. There’s no ushering about it. Margartio hasn’t fought since December 2011 when he lost to Miguel Cotto. That cheating fool was done a long time ago, and he hadn’t “dominated” the sport in quite a while before that. Mosley fights Cano in a couple of weeks from now. That’s far from being ushered into retirement or “coming to an abrupt end.” Cano may put the final nail in that coffin however. Pacquiao? Oh yeah. 2012 ended for him about as abruptly as things could end for a boxer. Cotto? Well, he’ll be back. Possibly a match with Alvarez. Or even a rematch with Trout now that Trout has lost to Alvarez. Ishe Smith may be a consideration for Miguel.
As for the Keys to Victory I think you basicallyl got that right. I hope the ref doesn’t allow Guerrero to grab and hold Floyd while he hits him in the back of the head. He did this to both Aydin and Berto. In the Aydin fight the ref never warned him about it once. Guerrero pretty much likes to hold and hit any old time–it’s one of his favorite tactics. He will foul as long as he can get away with it. One thing I do like about Robert is that he likes to mix it up in a fight. He’ll brawl, box, and cheat. Very versatile even if not so ethical. As for Floyd, well, I really don’t think Robert stands a chance in h3ll against him him. Aydin had Robert hurting, holding, and all shook up several times in their fight. Robert was pretty good at hiding it most of the time, but Floyd won’t let him get off so easy. Floyd will make Rober work, expend energy, then go for the stoppage late. I with Floyd all the way on this one.Posted May 4, 2013 10:06 am
The Ghost has 3 opponents today Floyd,The Ref, and the paid off Judges. I say Guerrero beats him down but is robbed by the judges and point deductions by the Ref.Posted May 4, 2013 9:51 am
Mayweather stops Guerrero in 4th round in rough tough fight.Posted May 4, 2013 9:18 am
This isn’t a fight prediction….Its nothing more then a “HYPE” prediction….Fake fight….BOYCOTT PPV!!!Posted May 4, 2013 9:06 am
In the cotto fight, Floyd was hit often with the left hook to body. The shoulder roll was efficive deflecting these shots. The right hooks and cross didn’t do much. Guerrero will need to keep that left hook and cross to have any chance of winning.Posted May 4, 2013 9:06 am
Martin “EL BRUCHADOR” Honorio
One thing about Mayweather fights is that you already know the result— another boring win for Mayweather. Tis the reason the tickets were slow in this fight– mexicans know the one guy who had a remote chance against mayweather is one named Canelo , not Guerrero.Posted May 4, 2013 8:49 am
I’ll be very surprised if Mayweather stops Guerrero,hoping for a Ghost win!Posted May 4, 2013 8:48 am
RAy gordon reid
GURERREROPosted May 4, 2013 8:19 am
I AM PICKING GUERRERO BY SPLIT DECISION. FLOYD’S LEGS LOOKED KIND OF SHOT TO ME IN HIS FIGHT WITH COTTO,AND I BELIEVE GUERRERO IS CLOSER TO HIS PRIME THEN COTTO WAS WHEN HE FOUGHT FLOYD.Posted May 4, 2013 7:47 am
@Wallace- The scribe,I don’t think Mayweather can win by stoppage,that is imprecise analysis at best as wishful.I don’t think Guerrero is Ortiz.Sufficeth it say though that it would be damn competive pugilistic language.And Mayweather can come out as the victor.Posted May 4, 2013 7:30 am
the ticket guy
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you are just a little jealous because the best boxer in the world is an American. God bless the USA!Posted May 4, 2013 7:21 am
The darker of the two little guys gets 32 million for his pint sized effort? They must really be starving for good boxing in the USA. Time to turn the channel and watch grownup boxing.Posted May 4, 2013 5:42 am
Floyd by CLEAR UD or Jaw dropping stoppage. Bet every single dollar you can FIND on it and celebrate the WIN with ME!!
I have no competition its STILL a lot of FUN though!!