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Hidalgo

Anyways Tark, I also thought ref Pearl was hasty in stopping the fight in Leonard’s first fight with Hearns. Tommy was swinging just before Leonard knocked him into the ropes again, and Tommy stood right up ready to go, before Pearl stopped the fight. Leonard was so far behind on the cards, even with his round 13 knockdown of Tommy he needed the stoppage to win the fight. But it’s old history and not worth arguing over now. Just my observation and opinion.

Posted May 13, 2013 10:34 am 


Hidalgo

Tark, when you said “chip off the old block” I took that to mean that you were imploying Ronald was very much on the whole, like his daddy as a boxer. Which he isn’t, of course. Wow! Tommy Hearns had almost 70 fights, won all but five of them. What? He didn’t get hit on the chin in his other 65 fights?

Posted May 13, 2013 10:30 am 


TARK

Ronald Hearns is CERTAINLY a chip off the old block… Especially his chin… Sred–Barkley DIDN’T catch Hearns with a wild desperation shot… Please watch the first fight… He caught Tommy with a short right.. Hearns was very easy to hit with rights, as was Leonard, although Leonard had a pretty good chin and Tommy had a weak one.. Leonard had Hearns rocking and reeling all over the ring in their 2nd fight. Watch it.. Leonard got a little overanxious, lost his cool, and couldn’t apply the finisher.. Sometimes older fighters are much less cool than their younger selves.. Maintaining their composure is one of the many things they forgot how to do.

Posted May 13, 2013 2:26 am 


Hidalgo

LMAO Tark. Ronald Hearns is another story. Hardly a chip off the old block.

Posted May 12, 2013 10:33 pm 


gold

Castillo, imo took the 1st fight against Mayweather, but its when Floyd had that bum shoulder at the time. But one could argue he didnt catch Floyd solid with his punches. The 2nd fight was hands down LOPSIDED with Floyds artistic elusiveness and offence on display! In all due respect, Mayweather is miles above Castillo as a fighter! He caught Mayweather when he wasnt ready! hence, one of the proponents needed for ATG status! This kinda shows how some fighters have to “win” with injuries, boredom, personal issues, management issues etc. – REGARDLESS of how they “feel.”

Posted May 12, 2013 11:34 am 


gold

Tommy had to get up for mandatory fights – thats not easy. Mayweather chooses at his leisure when he’d like to fight, so that doesnt fit well for Mayweather when you consider all the proponents that make you an ATG. When a fighter has GREAT opposition and is supposed to be ready (mandatory) – it sure is different to preparing when you “feel” to. That wicked jab Tommy had wouldv probably given Floyd fits “if” Floyd was to be ready when he didnt necessarily want to be ready. Floyd needs “great” opposition, but that doesnt take away from the fact he’d have given the “greats” a run for their money! Tommy, the two Sugars and Chavez (only ones I could come up with, right about now) wouldv pressed the action like nobodies business and Mayweather probably would lose given his proclivity to take “off time” when he feels like it, and for finally having a “world class” jab breaking his rhythm. Tommy was great at WW, so considering his fights with those beasts at MW – Tommy deserves props for @ least making it competitive – imo, solidifying him as an ATG!!

Posted May 12, 2013 11:22 am 


@boxingroundup

Of course I know about the Castillo fight. The eastsideboxing editor changed the title to 44 have tried etc. I only used that phrase in the last line as a reference to something that Floyd would say to his next opponent, which undoubtedly he will.

I have watched the Castillo 1 fight and I wouldn’t argue with people who said Floyd lost that.

Thanks for reading the write up.

Posted May 12, 2013 7:29 am 


RUFFKNIGHT

Seemed like Hearns was winning when he got hit by a wild desperation shot from Barkley in their first bout. In the second bout Hearns seemed too gun shy from the first fight and seemed to lose by intimidation. Anyway forget the statistics, Hearn’s opposition has been much better than Floyd’s. Hearn’s and Hagler would probably send him down and across the canvas like a bowling ball.
At least sometime during a 15 ROUNDER.

Posted May 12, 2013 6:44 am 


TARK

That gives Hearns a 93% win ratio to Floyd’s 100%.. 5 losses vs 0 losses.. No official knockdowns from punches for Mayweather vs several knockdowns for Hearns.. Then you have Ronald Hearns.. What a chip off the old block he is.

Posted May 12, 2013 3:12 am 


Hidalgo

“A dozen guys out-boxed Iran Barkley but Barkley put it on Tommy Hearns like he was his daddy.” But as a middleweight, not welterweight and he didn’t fight Hearns until Tommy was almost 30 years old and seven years after Tommy fought lost to Leonard. Their second fight ended in a split decision. Tommy lost a whopping five times in his pro career of 67 bouts in which he stopped another 48 opponents. Just think, Floyd only has 23 fights to go to match Tommy’s 67 and about another 20 TKO/KOs to match Tommy’s. Maybe Floyd can try to catch up after his next vacation.

Posted May 12, 2013 12:29 am 


TARK

Hearns had no business getting into furious exchanges with natrual middleweights like Hagler and Barkley, who were much stronger than him… Leonard didn’t do that with Hag. He boxed, moved, and put a lot of gloves in Marv’s face. Marv couldn’t move his head well. Why not? Leonard knew he was going to whip Hagler — Tommy went for Hagler’s ploy went Marv kept pointing to his ball cap at the weigh-in — which said “Destruct and Destroy”

Posted May 11, 2013 11:58 pm 


Rapid

TARK….the Blade sure did have Tommys number, But I truly believe he was never the same after Hagler, and three of boxing histories most brutal rounds. The hit man was one of my all time favorites, The Quevez, and Duran fights were two of the most brutal K/O’s ever!!

Posted May 11, 2013 11:46 pm 


TARK

Leonard, Hearns, and Duran all ducked Mike McCallum… Are you kidding me? … After Leonard whipped on Hagler they tried in vain for years to make a fight between Leonard and Michael Nunn.. Leonard wanted nothing to do with that 6’2″ slick boxing 36-0 southpaw with the “KO of the Year” fists… Those 3 were smart. They didn’t box outside their circle of competence, except for Hearns a couple times.

A dozen guys out-boxed Iran Barkley but Barkley put it on Tommy Hearns like he was his daddy.

Posted May 11, 2013 11:14 pm 


Rapid

Would “HE” fight any of them…

Posted May 11, 2013 10:12 pm 


Rapid

SREDMOND….Here’s a question for you, or anyone else on here….Do you think if Leonard, Hearns, and Duran were all fighting today at 47/ 54 like Floyd is today. Would they have retired for 2 years..came back and fight a light weight?? ( well we all know what Leonard would do) Would they make a bunch of excuses why not to fight guys like Alverez, or Martinez? Better yet, given that we all witness Floyd retire when guys like Margarito, and Williams were knocking on the door, If the big three of Leonard, Hearns, and Duran were around today..Would fight any of them??

Posted May 11, 2013 10:11 pm 


Rapid

SREDMOND…. Well, I’d say Leonards resume at 47 was better than Floyds..you damn right!! Benitez, a prime Duran 2x, a prime Tommy Hearns (anyone on hear think Floyd would ever fight a 6″1 welterweight with thunderous power like Tommy?) Aybu Kaylue ( not even close spelling) at 36 and 0 was no slouch…Who else at 47 should he have fought?? Look man, if you’ve paid attention to my posts..I’ve always said Floyd is a great fighter, and never had a problem with his resume 135 and below…just for me 140 is where I would liked him to fight more guys in there prime…again, Like I’ve said before.. probably not all his fault. Floyd is a great fighter, and I think he should continue to prove it, and fighting guys like Ortiz, Guerrero, Allexander, madania, bla bla bla… won’t add anything to his legacy.

Posted May 11, 2013 10:02 pm 


Crown Prince of Whales

Gold-digger: Hope the Money Team is paying you for your cheer-leading work. Maybe when you put the pom-poms down you can go rub Ellerbe down and get him loosened up for Floyd…

Posted May 11, 2013 9:20 pm 


gold

King SKILZ Mayweather is most DEFINITELY an ATG. He wouldve EMBARRASSED Roberto Duran, he wouldve made Terry Norris look like a PLODDER eventually outpointing him, concluding with no apparent reason at all for a rematch…..he wouldv/couldv hung with the VERY BEST! Some must have been living under a rock for the past 17yrs to not see that his work ethic & SKILZ is right up their with the VERY BEST of em’! Again, King Mayweather could HANG in ANY era and make some of the bonafied greats look like perplexed squirrels in the ring!!! The HATE & jealousy wouldv been prevalent too, due to the fact both have been & will be around for a long time. Not saying he couldnt have lost; just saying, whatever “great” in the past he happened to mix it up with, would have been painfully aware they were in a fight! Not a mindless slugfest, but in with a guy that was strategizing and thinking, even keeping a level head if knocked down!! And rematches wouldv been no easier for opponents! Btw, I dont consider Terry Norris an ATG…..Roberto Duran, Julio Caesar Chavez, Pernell Whittaker, Thomas Hearns etc…these were GREATS in that division!!! Lets not forget, Mayweathers attempts @ psychological warfare arent at all lacking at irritating foes. Mayweather is the product of new and improved boxer in the ring! He used the opportunity to build his skill set by observing the past greats …. undoubtedly with the help of his pops. Typewriter to COMPUTER technology – is in DA HOUSE!! ….DIGITAL did a job on analog Guerreros face – even at the past prime age of 36!!!

Posted May 11, 2013 8:47 pm 


twogunman

Did the writer forget the first Castillo fight. Floyd got spanked and knows he lost it just like knowledgable fans do.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:02 pm 


MMendoza

@Sredmond and Prince: Totally agree — I most definitely think that Floyd’s the real genius deal.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:56 pm 


TARK

Floyd is not going to be in FOTY battles… But the Cotto fight was pretty action packed because Floyd was getting nailed and had to step it up.. The Alvarez fight might be even better if The Cinnamon Kid starts coming like his hair is on fire.. Man the hoses.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:06 pm 


Dodley

—- without having watched Pele play—– not fight!

Posted May 11, 2013 1:22 pm 


Happyboy

He is an ATG, dumb ass.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:17 pm 


Pain

“Floyd is one of the best, but he doen’t come close to the all time greats.” – SPOT ON.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:20 pm 


Rapid

Urone….I don’t really like catchweights…But I’m not buying it in the Cotto fight at all…Not one pound…these guys are professionals… One pound is nothing… Manny just had the style to dominate Cotto at any weight! Just happens in boxing.

Posted May 11, 2013 9:45 am 


Mma fighter

Floyd’s next fight is with Saul the deal is in the works at 154

Posted May 11, 2013 9:44 am 


logic

The Prince,I’m not seeing Floyd Jr as bring smarter than Snr defensively,and not as tough either.And yet Leonard stopped Sr.I do agree Jr’s offensive accuracy is a scary thing,combined with his fitness level,ring savvy,in-fight adjustments,all of the highest level. People should give him his props.But looking near perfect against very good fighters doesnt automatically
mean he is best ever.I have to give credit,even in Mayweather’s own era,to Rigondeaux,for what he did to a smart,fast,and lethally powerful foe in Donaire,who was considered best and in his prime,and the way Rigondeaux finished the fight,leaving the so-called “haters” nothing to say (though they still complained about running).Point,being Rigondeaux dominated a truly formidable opponent,which I guess Jr has not had a chance to prove,other than maybe Cotto and Judah(Marquez was puffed up ,not really grown into his weight).That said,I agree that Jr is one of the great fighters of his era,it seems actual boxers like Marquez and Chris Byrd think so,and they know more than me!

Posted May 11, 2013 9:35 am 


RUFFKNIGHT

Pacman can’t beat Floyd, not now. It would’ve made a good super fight a few years ago and at jr. welter. Floyd would be smart to take on manny now for sure.
Pacman wouldn’t be so smart unless he just considers the money he’d be making. But he’ll pick up a little fighting Rios who is probably the equivalent of a Guerrero. Manny should really call it quits and concentrate on politics or whatever, he’s had a very successful boxing career.

Posted May 11, 2013 8:47 am 


Dodley

Pacman is the more exciting and more action packed fighter to watch while Floyd is better to watch in terms of defensive boxing, slick moves and counter shots.

Depending what is your preference you may prefer Floyd or Manny. A lot of people don’t like floyd due to his personality aswell.

As for who would win a fight between them, most people choose their preferred stylist as the winner.

Personally I love watching both fighters because I am actually a proper boxing enthusiast with no reason for bias.

Judging the fight without any emotional involvement I would pick Floyd to win on points however I do recognise that Pacman could win on pure aggression and high punch output +/- KO.

I.e both men have a shot at winning, I simply would pick Floyd to win because I believe his ability and style prevails.

Posted May 11, 2013 7:44 am 


RUFFKNIGHT

Chavez was really 87-0 when he really did get beat by Pernell. But he fought the best all the way to 87-0.

Posted May 11, 2013 5:43 am 


murderman

@urone2- very true my friend!

Posted May 11, 2013 3:10 am 


murderman

@the monkey team-thanks for the info partner

Posted May 11, 2013 3:09 am 


urone2

murderman, it was Pernell Whitaker but the gave Chaves a draw

Posted May 11, 2013 3:07 am 


urone2

Rqpid, if the pound didn’t make a difference in Cotto why have him come down in order to fight Pac. Why did Cotto leave the welterweight division after that fight to fight at 154 lb. limit. Why did Cotto box fine in the first 2 rounds then in the third go for the KO when in my opinion his boxing was winning the fight. If the weight wasn’t a problem I don’t think Cotto would have made the Move to 154. And for the record I think that Manny was more created champion than true champion. The catch weight fights made him look like more that what he actually was. I dont remeber the fighters name that took him the distance, in that fighter previous fight he was KO’d in one or two round. I think that fight was at 130 or 135.

Posted May 11, 2013 3:05 am 


THE MONKEY TEAM

murderman, it was Frankie Randall in ’94 by SD google his boxrec “boxrec: Julio cesar chavez”

Posted May 11, 2013 2:53 am 


murderman

Who gave chavez his 1st lost?

Posted May 11, 2013 2:44 am 


murderman

@jay-actually may weighted 150lbs and marquez weighted 144. Canelo fights around 170. Floyd weighs no more than 150. We talking a 6lbs digfetence as oppose to a 20 plus lb difference.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:43 am 


THE MONKEY TEAM

at some point chavez was 80+ and 0, 80 tried and failed. Mayweather will retire before he can say 80 and 0. LOL

Posted May 11, 2013 2:38 am 


jay

Because thats how much he Floyd weight when he fought a 135 pounds Marquez.

Posted May 11, 2013 2:02 am 


tachyon

Why the Hell would money fight 172 pound Canelo who should be fighting Hopkins at that weight or Martinez? to even suggest you fight someone who comes into the ring out weighing you by 30 pounds is stupid and bad for business.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:54 am 


zurdo40

Floyd great skills: “He s so bigger, he s not a big draw, he is on peds, he is so small, he’s with other promoter, bla bla bla. But Guerrero, Ortiz, Judah, Baldomir, old Mosley and old De la Hoya were great fights. Ans surely he will fight dangeorus Khan and later KO artist Paulie Mallinaggi.

Posted May 11, 2013 1:09 am 


PEEJ

Well if Floyd putting on a dominate boxing performance is considered scared, then people don’t realize what boxing is about. Its about hitting and not getting hit. What is funny is that he tried for the KO in the Cotto fight and then everybody said he lost his legs. He Spanks someone landing 60% of his punches while his opponent landed like less that 20% and people say he was running. Funny. I can watch Floyd a 100 times and be satisfied with his style. He will be the one enjoying his money years after he retires.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:51 am 


PEEJ

And the only reason I bring up Pac when discussing Floyd wiith someone is because if they are a Floyd hater then most times they are a Pac fan. I am a Floyd fan, but I am a boxing fan first and I look through both sides of the glass before saying something. Now I may pick a fight with my heart depending on the fighter. Like Tarver, I hate Tarver and I have picked against everytime except for the Danny Green fight. Thats because I dislike Green more.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:45 am 


PEEJ

I agree that he became a PPV star after Oscar, but he started doing big numbers after Gatti. As a matter of fact they where boing Floyd at the beginning and then at the end they where cheering for Floyd. But that is when he became an attraction. Not what he is now or after Oscar but lest say after what Pac was after he fought Barrera. I am only using Pac here because at the moment I think they compare

Posted May 11, 2013 12:43 am 


PEEJ

Actually the weight drained problem with Cotto does hold water. I’m sure you have seen fighters come in a pound or 2 overweight and when they go to lose the pound or so they can’t. Which means they have hit a wall to where they can’t lose any more weight. So saying Cotto came in at 146 for one fight and then him being older saying it should of been easier for him to make 145. If that is the case then why not fight at 144 or even further at 143 because he did make 146. It has to stop somewhere. There was a reason they asked him to come in at 145, 2 pounds under the welterweight limit. I mean come on, really 2 pounds. They didnt want him comfortable. And Cotto was doing pretty well until the later rounds, where the draining can take effect.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:41 am 


SREDMOND

Everyone knows Teddy Atlas HATES Mayweather! And going 12 rounds gives his opponents LONGER to land the BIG one which is their only shot, no mans out boxing FMJ…Where is Atlas knocking the Great Sweet Pea Whitaker who stopped what? 17 guys? Mayweathers already stopped 9 more than that and at 36 he’s still looking invincible…

Posted May 11, 2013 12:10 am 


SREDMOND

Rapid, I’m a 70’s baby as well and at least you admit that you “are trying to diminish Floyds 0″ Sugar Ray Leonard who is considered widely a top 5 ATG had what 39 career bouts? He had 5 years out of boxing due to injuries, do you REALLY believe he fought “everybody” or got them on the best day of their lives ?? GTFOH Floyds been a World Champion sine he was 22 but NONE of the boxers he has beaten across 5 weight classes including 3 lineal Championships was a threat? At Floyds age Ray had expired and he had FEWER bouts… I love SRR but it’s FMJ’s time and no matter who they put in front of him he dominates… The new push is more weight to negate his skills which is bogus…There have been what 5 or 6 guys that have ever done business successfully in that many divisions including FMJ… Does that mean we ONLY have 6 great fighters under HW? Nonsense FMJ is a beast..

Posted May 11, 2013 12:05 am 


hecdog

Prince my friend, you have to read between the lines. Teddy basically said they were both great, but Leonard looked to take guys out at any moment, and Floyd didn’t care about how he was looked upon. He was worried ONLY about winning. Simply put, Leonard had guts to take chances, Floyd is scared.

Posted May 11, 2013 12:00 am 


Rapid

Peej….I think Williams was overrated too, but I believe his sheer size and work rate alone would have possibly given Floyd troubles… Oh boy…I gave someone a “chance” to possibly compete with Floyd..Must be a hater!

Posted May 10, 2013 11:53 pm 


Rqpid

Peej…..I wasn’t talking about Pacquaio…What is it about may fans that can’t help but bring up Pacquaio?? I don’t get it! Anyways, Floyd did not start doing big numbers till DeLahoya! And for the record….Cotto weighed 146 for Margarito….when he could have came in at 47. And then he weighed 145 for Pacquaio…. That weight drained argument doesn’t hold any water. Now, DeLahoya Pacquaio was a different story, weight he hadn’t made in years, and the rehydration clause!

Posted May 10, 2013 11:49 pm 


PEEJ

Paul Williams was overrated. And why do people still think pressuring Floyd while throwing a bunch of punches is what you do. He has proven that wrong many times. That is not what you do. And if you watched Williams against the Puerto Rican dude where he got his ass boxed for 12 rounds. Come on dude, throwing a bunch of punches equals a loss against Floyd if its not smart pressure. Williams did anything but smart pressure

Posted May 10, 2013 11:39 pm 


The Prince

And for the record, in case someone wants to mention Manny: Teddy has been on record many times on ESPN, calling Manny out for the weight drain fights and his actions to avoid fighting Mayweather. While he still puts some of the blame on Mayweather too, he puts most of the blame on Arum and Pacquaio, himself.

Posted May 10, 2013 11:23 pm 


Figthing Words

Paul Williams comes to mind a for a Super Fight for Mayweather. It would have been like Leonard and Hearn first fight. But bless Paul Williams health, he had bad management in which he moved around in weight classes, if he would have stayed at WW and just dominate, he would have became the 1 contender and both Mayweather and Manny would have had to fight him, the public and the sanctioning bodies would have demanded it. He would have beat both Mayweather and Manny, he throw a lot of punches and that would have been a problem for both fighters. I would have love to seen him fight Mayweather. But of course, Mayweathe inactivity cause fighter to move on and so when he does fight, he have to pick the less competitive fights in which fight fans call it cherry picking, in some ways it is and in other ways it is not. Fighters just can not get in line and wait on Mayweather, Life and Fights goes on.

Posted May 10, 2013 11:16 pm 


The Prince

hecdog, like a Fox News suit, spun what Teddy said. Teddy said, Floyd like Leonard was a great offensive, defensive, and smart fighter. Both who FACED the best fighters of their generation. Both with dedicated fan-bases. Who both made a lot of money. The difference? Leonard looked to take you out despite his skills, while Mayweather is more defensive and looks to win rather it’s by KO, or cruising to the scorecards no matter what people think. He said, nothing about Floyd not being willing to put it on the line when it comes to opponents. He was talking about his fighting style compared to the more aggressive Leonard. If anyone can see the full Teddy interview, you’ll see what I said is the truth. This hecdog even makes Pactards look good with his mess.

Posted May 10, 2013 11:16 pm 


badger

Floyd vs prime saoul mamby close match. same snooze fest. losers still buy Floyd. go girlsw.

Posted May 10, 2013 11:10 pm 


hecdog

Very well said Teddy Atlas. Basically he said Mayweather is afraid to put it on the line unlike Sugar Ray Leonard. Great comment Teddy. I hope it was clear enough for all the Mayweather fans to hear because he said it clearly. Great job ESPN. Teddy Atlas knows boxing

Posted May 10, 2013 11:06 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Public Enema, im wondering if u would be this brave talking sh!+ about we mexicans if u were in mexico, I bet u would be our señorita but hiding behind keyboard everybody turns into a powerful warrior, I dont know why u hate mexicans so much maybe one of them fkd ur wife or u were punked by some Vatos La Raza Gang

Posted May 10, 2013 11:04 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Floyd>>>>>> Robinson, Greb, Armstrong, Ali, Pep, Charles, Langford, B Leonard, Louis, Duran, Gans, Canzoneri etc.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:50 pm 


Rqpid

SREDMOND…. Maybe I am trying to diminish Floyds highly protected “O”. And, I have ALWAYS maintained he is a GREAT fighter! But, I truly believe, contrary to him, and his hardcore followers belief, that he has not taken on the legit threats ( not always his fault) above 130/ 135. He gets tons of credit for beating Gatti….How many wars had Arturro been in by then?? Then there’s Zab Judah…Juda had just been KTFO’D by Kostya Tszu with ONE punch! Carlos Baldimir was the Lineal Schmineal champ..BFD he had like 10 losses prior, and Floyd got like 50 bucks more than what he could have made by fighting Margarito at that time. Fights DeLahoya when he was how old?? Fought Cotto after he’d been brutally beat down and stopped 2 times. Maybe it’s just me growing up watching a ton of ATG’s from the 70’s till now …. Guys that fought anybody, and everybody, big deal if they lost…How many losses did Ali have..and he’s still considered by many as “The greatest” Watching Ray Leonard retire as a”WELTERWEIGHT” Champ…Take three years off, come back and fight Hagler..The undisputed “MIDDLE WEIGHT” Champ..then Watching Mayweather retire as a “WELTER WEIGHT”…Take two years off..comes back and takes on a “LIGHT WEIGHT” makes the guy come two full weight classes, and then doesn’t make the contracted weight him self….Big difference for ME!!

Posted May 10, 2013 10:30 pm 


PEEJ

Ok you are getting a little crazy. Mentioning Ward with Pac. Please. Sorry but a KO like the one Pac just took and being so late in his career normally carries over for the rest of your life. Roy Jones got KOd by Tarver and now if you look at him wrong he falls out. In my opinion until I see otherwise, I’m not sure if he can take punishment like he used too. Problem is Pac does not have any defense, he takes too many punches to the head. Not to mention he hasn’t looked right since the Margacheato fight.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:29 pm 


The Prince

logic – Floyd Sr. was a primary defense fighter. He didn’t have the ring smarts or offense of Floyd Jr. Floyd Jr. learned his offense from Roger Mayweather, who was a two-time world champion and a KO artist with a fragile chin, which made for exciting fights. Floyd Jr. also learned his ring generalship from his other uncle Jeff Mayweather. It’s the combined training, and Floyd’s tireless work-rate in the gym, that makes him the special fighter of today. And Suger Ray Leonard, himself, said Floyd Jr. would be a very tough fight and could possibly win.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:18 pm 


Rqpid

Ok…Thought my post from this morning wasn’t there…sorry for the double post…..

Posted May 10, 2013 10:11 pm 


hecdog

PEEJ, you can’t be serious picking Rios over Manny Pacquiao the only 8 division boxing champion in history. Manny is going to come back with a vengeance. Manny is different. He has over come so much in his life, and even with the Marquez Ped Punch loss, he has plenty left in his tank for Marquez, Mayweather, Canelo and Ward, yes, Ward. Never discount a legend that comes around every 100 years. Pacquiao by stoppage in a war in round 3.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:03 pm 


logic

I seem to be going against the grain of a lot of opinions,but I thought that Mayweather was going to check Guerrero’s chin through that leaky defense,but ended up being impressed with the smart performance he turned in.How many previous Floyd opponents were not getting beaten up or humiliated by the final round,and even had Floyd on his bicycle.That said,you cant be much of a boxing fan to not appreciate Mayweathers near perfect defense and accuracy.Would he look as perfect against Sugar Ray Leonard?Check his dad’s fight.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:01 pm 


Rqpid

44 0…isn’t really a big deal. How about Julio Caesar Chavez sr….87 0 with 72 K/O’s before he lost…..whats that?? 28 more knock outs than Floyds had fights??

Posted May 10, 2013 10:00 pm 


Beezy

I would like to see Mayweather fight at 154 against Canelo… and then maybe back at 147 against Khan and JMM… those are all the money fights out there for him…. and he calls himself money, so he should take those fights

Posted May 10, 2013 9:52 pm 


PEEJ

Well Floyd got to Hatton first. Oh and he knocked Hatton out first too. Unfortunately fighters are never the same after fighting Floyd

Posted May 10, 2013 9:15 pm 


Public Enemy

Mexicans are some funny Chihuahuas, even when they lose they claim they won??? Now Guererreo really beat Floyd too and so did Fernando Lardass vs Trinidad… Oh, and DelaRunner vs Tito Trinidad.. but they’re ok with dumb Dumb Rios getting a win over Cuban ABril after Abril boxed his Floppy ears off..

Posted May 10, 2013 8:53 pm 


te tumbo

i always posted that once Pacquiao* ran out of ringworn veterans to cherrypick and/or contenders to catchweight-compromise, he would be exposed by the equally-prime contenders and champions that he’s always avoided. accordingly, Pacquiao* underwhelmed v. the undefeated Bradley and was FLATTENED by Marquez. if only Pacquiao* had been able to overcome his “fear of needles” and accepted the $25-$50 million payday that Mayweather was offering yeeears ago, Boxing would’ve been spared the boxing travesty that is Manny* Pacquiao*.

Posted May 10, 2013 8:52 pm 


te tumbo

HECDOG, give it up. you were as wrong as can be with your prediction for the Mayweather v. Guerrero bout, which was a no-brainer. also, Pacquiao* has ALways been opposed to random testing. plenty of public equivocating over this condition that was the primary deal-breaker for the Mayweather showdown. he even declined Marquez’s public offer/challenge of random blood and urine testing because he’s ALways been opposed to it for, what was it again? oh yeah, religious, cultural, and/or health-related reasons. besides, even before Pacquiao* was utterly DEMOLISHED by Marquez who he had been avoiding for Eight (8) F’n Years, Mayweather v. Pacquiao* was a no-brainer in favor of Mayweather, i.e., Floyd would’ve undoubtedly and cruelly abused and humiliated ANY version of Pacquiao* that ever entered a boxing ring. it would be an even more severe slaughter now that Pacquiao* has been exposed as the suspect, cherrypicking, promotional fraud that he’s always been.

Posted May 10, 2013 8:47 pm 


SREDMOND

Castillo did not beat Mayweather tell us this definitive abusive round he had? He was a body puncher who made the bout ugly but he failed to land the type of shots to impress the judges.. But to clear up any chatter FMJ came back and left him in the dust.. Let’s talk about the vaunted Castillo remedy BETTER and BIGGER fighters than Castillo tried to pressure Floyd, hit him on the arms, shoulders, body and rough him up and NONE have had success, Guerrero was the latest in a long line of World Class fighters, HOFers and multi weight Champs who found out exactly what Mayweather has been saying its ALOT different when you get in that ring with him…He’s a special fighter, the Great Cotto stayed in the fight to his eternal credit but ultimately skills pay the bills…

Posted May 10, 2013 8:24 pm 


PEEJ

Well a lot of folks may say that but also a lot of folks agree Floyd won. It was a close fight and I remember watching with my friend who hates Floyd and we both looked at each other at the end and said this was close, could go either way

Posted May 10, 2013 8:07 pm 


PEEJ

Yes boxing will definitely welcome Pac back with open arms. But for all those Pac fans saying Floyd was fighting a blown up whatever, that is also what Pac is doing. Now with that said, I actually like Rios in this fight. He can take a punch and boy can he deliver a punch. Pre Marquez KO I would take Pac but after the KO and with all the reports about Paxs health, I’m gonna go with Rios to pull the upset. But it should be a good fight while it last. Doubt it goes 12 or 10. It’s probably a 10 rounder

Posted May 10, 2013 8:05 pm 


Dodley

A lot of people agree Castillo beat Floyd. Maybe if that fight had been judged a loss for Floyd he would be more open to the fights people want and wanted to see e.g. Pacquaio, Canelo, as he would not have an ‘0’ to worry about?

Thoughts?

Posted May 10, 2013 8:03 pm 


Rem

First i gotta give Floyd a ton of credit he certainly proved me wrong about Guerrero competing with him and his ability to move for 12 rounds like he use to. In my desperation to see him brought further down to earth i put to much stock in Guerrero a guy without enough athleticism to compete with him. Floyd and his dad did a great job making sure Guerrero didn’t have openings southpaws have had on Floyd in the past. Having said that Guerrero came close alot only his lack of speed made him a split second late i even saw him touch his target but wasn’t able to punch through it because he was late to his target. PAC won’t be late and will punch  through his target. In Floyd defense though i also saw some angles that can pose some problems for Pac which Floyd hadn’t shown before. Great to see Floyd acting classy too you know i think Guerrero said it best he’s in a great position to inspire but never did i think that’s why the hate for him is warranted hopefully for the rest of his career he will use his gifts to inspire. Drop the”gets money” though its kinda corny lol.

Posted May 10, 2013 7:41 pm 


hecdog

Manny Pacquiao comes back to resurrect boxing. Maanny will even have the USADA testing as he has always been open to. Manny Pacquiao doesn’t need to come back, but he’s doing it for his billions of loyal fans. Manny is so beloved because of the quality of person he is. Humble, loving, caring, honest, since, God believing and you never once ever hear him disrespect anyone. He never uses foul language, and he never berates any of his opponents. He’s a class one person that fights like a hurricane. He brings excitement to any city or country he fights in. Manny will be welcomed back with open arms. Rios will be a tough fight. This will be a REAL fight. Two fighters testing each others will, strength, determination, skills and heart. Manny can box, but he comes to fight. The love and appreciation of arguably the best fighter ever will continue to grow. Rios vs Pacquiao, what a fight.

Posted May 10, 2013 7:26 pm 


hecdog

Prince, God was with Robert Guerrero. He came out clean, and earned enough money to pay his his bills and hopefully enough to put away for his future. God was also with Floyd, and he fought a good fight albeit very safe. Floyd has set a bad example for everyone , but I did see a little maturity in him this time around in his post fight press conference. He seemed a bit more humble, and I think Robert Guerrero had a lot to do with it. Guerrero was loved by everyone, Floyd doesn’t receive that kind of Time will tell. I will pray for him, and I’m sure people will give him another look if he continues to be humble. His style of fighting isn’t very exciting, but I do respect his ability. He has talent, but can he change as a person? I hope so. Only time will tell. He’s not the most exciting fighter. That’s the truth. And he can’t match up with the ATG’s.

Posted May 10, 2013 7:14 pm 


Havoc

Points to consider when taking on an opponents…..Recently brutally beat up but won the championship,must be past thier prime,pay to take a dive – Floyd Money Mayweather!

Posted May 10, 2013 6:42 pm 


prince

great posts by The Prince! I agree 100%

Posted May 10, 2013 6:41 pm 


The Prince

Peej: And not only did Mosley declined once while in his prime, he did so five times, three times on video. The same with Oscar De La Hoya; he ducked Floyd, and only agreed to finally fight him if all the odds were in his favor. But haters don’t look at these facts. And I find it interesting than when discussing Mosley and De La Hoya, most people will celebrate their careers. But once Floyd Maywather’s name is brought up, they’re quickly reduced to bums Floyd cherrypicked. Something is not right…

Posted May 10, 2013 6:33 pm 


Havoc

If Floyd can’t beat em he won’t fight em….gotta keep that 0 preserve no matter what it takes!!! Don’t want to turn up like his dad who can’t talk straight! Boxing is so easy if you pick your opponent good…

Posted May 10, 2013 6:30 pm 


PEEJ

Margacheato was a cheat. So stop talking on why he didn’t fight him, Martinez fights at 160, he can’t make 154. Floyd tried fighting Mosley at 140 and Mosley declined. That was in Mosleys prime

Posted May 10, 2013 6:13 pm 


PEEJ

Casamayor was a contracted Showtime fighter when Floyd was a contracted HBO fighter. That’s why that fight didn’t happen. P Williams was overrated. That’s why he jumped from weight class to weight class. He should of established himself in one weight but he didn’t. Plus he had 0 defense.

Posted May 10, 2013 6:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Hecdogs, discussing Floyd because all his convo’s About Manny end with Pac Man faced own and being rolled over like he got hit by a FedEx truck..

Posted May 10, 2013 5:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Jay, the notion that Great fighters produce “fights of the year is nonsense in some regards” PAC Man is always in barn burners because he cannot stop guys like Marquez from punching him in the face… Gatti was in FOTY’s because a step above club fighter like he and Mickey Ward stood and traded like this is a Rocky movie where Stallone goes home when the director yells “Cut” 25 million richer with no brain damage… Berto was in two FOTYs because he LOST slugging it out with guys he was slated to beat… Khans in GREAT fights because despite his talent he is Chinny and loses focus ultimately giving perceived lessor foes Prescott and Garcia the chance to knock him out…. Now since you said “Great fighters are in FOTY’s” do you think Berto, Khan, Ward and Gatti were “Great” or fun to watch taking beatings?? Floyd’s skills allow him to avoid the horrid abuse most fighters endure… Learn to respect genius son…

Posted May 10, 2013 5:57 pm 


The Prince

Remember folks – hecdog was the same guy who claimed to be so religious and claimed god will work through Gurrerro to beat the evil, sinful, Mayweather. Now that it hasn’t happened, look at the quality of his post. This is basically what to expect from Floyd haters. Their reasons for hating the man go far beyond boxing.

Posted May 10, 2013 5:56 pm 


Mma fighter

Floyd camp is talking Saul sep 14 let’s see what happens all Floyd lovers why didn’t he fight Sergio Paul Williams Joel casomor margreito he would not fight Mosley in prime cause he said he took ped Mosley tried to fight many times when has Mosley weight 135 like 18

Posted May 10, 2013 5:54 pm 


The Prince

And lets set the record straight: Floyd didn’t duck Pacquaio. Bob Arum, Freddie Roach, and Pacquaio, himself, ducked Floyd Mayweather. It’s documented by excuses Arum, Roach, and Pacquaio gave over two years. But haters don’t look at facts. Just like they were claiming Floyd was ducking Shane Mosley, even though Mosley was on record and video ducking and refusing to fight Mayweather, until he was nearly broke from his divorce. Of course, afterwards, the haters claimed Mosley was shot and Floyd cherrypicked him even though Mosley knocked out Margarito before fighting Floyd. That’s why I feel sorry for any boxer who fights Mayweather. Because once they lose, they go from being the great hope, to a bum Floyd cherrypicked, no matter how accomplished their careers were before fighting Mayweather was. The only one who avoilded the backlash, was Marquez who Arum though was ripe to get exploited, only for Pacquaio to fall flat on his face.

Posted May 10, 2013 5:53 pm 


hecdog

Miss Maywether hahahahahahah! No way, we will then get back into boxing. Look at Broner, he does similiar things as Mayweather, but he also fights. He takes hi chances, get hit, but he can fight and box. His ego is quite big, but he’s tolerable because he fights. Ali, Tyson, Leonard, Lewis, these were great fighters because they boxed, fought and put themselves in harm’s way many, many times. Floyd got a bloody nose and ome bruises in the Cotto fight, and he said “hell no, I’m not going to do that again, so we get the Floyd that fought Guerrero, and the fans boo and leave early. Floyd is one of the best, but he doen’t come close to the all time greats.

Posted May 10, 2013 5:50 pm 


The Prince

Many people are going to miss Mayweather, once the five fights are over and he retires near 40 years old. Up-and-coming boxers are already studying Mayweather fights in learning boxing 101. The guy is easily the best boxer of his generation and he’ll be remembered as one of the all-time great boxers in the coming years. Haters will try to discredit him, but no one will care to listen. People still try to discredit Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, and many other legends in the ring. But guess what? These days you’re laughed at if you try to discredit their accomplishments. Mayweather will be no different.

Posted May 10, 2013 5:32 pm 


PEEJ

Never ducked Pac. Lol

Posted May 10, 2013 4:58 pm 


PEEJ

Never sucked Pac. Pac didn’t want to take random drug test and then when he did agree he showed his greed by turning down 40 mil, his highest payday ever

Posted May 10, 2013 4:45 pm 


malachi

respect this man while he’s still here fighting in our era cause when he’s gone you guys are going to be saying wow, i wonder how this one or this one would fare with the $ man had he be here right now ,the mans amazing please appreciate the best boxer arguably ever especially after he beats his next five fighters….yezzzir!

Posted May 10, 2013 4:44 pm 


bigmike

Great fighter, but was very careful about who fought. Never seeked out the best in there prime. Ducked Pacquiao, and still afraid. That is not how you become a legend.

Posted May 10, 2013 4:42 pm 


hecdog

Floyd has brought all this negativity and hate on himself. He showed his true colors for years and then he gave everyone, women, children, kids, families what type of person he really was. Disrepetcful, rude, egotistical, money hungry, jealous, envious, angry, boastful. All thee things that people hate. Floyd is trying to be humble, but it might be too late for him. He promoted his image that has now ruined him. Sell your soul to the devil and you get what you asked for. Remember, a good name is better than riches. Happiness means more than all the temporary money you have for now. One day, it will all be gone, and then what do you have left?

Posted May 10, 2013 4:35 pm 


Pain

An old De La Hoya, an older Mosley, a shot Cotto gave this boxing fool a run for his money. And a good but not great Castillo mopped the floor with his head lol.

Overrated, I say.

Posted May 10, 2013 4:28 pm 


zurdo40

this chicken never fought against great rivals at their prime. Even castillo (the punching bag of jc chavez) put this chichen on the run.

Posted May 10, 2013 4:04 pm 


Ray

Well you know the name of the game bro. Some fighters are popular like that while others need to draw attention ( flapping lips ) to make healines and make that money.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:59 pm 


malachi

HecDog` if were going by your logic then marquez def would be up 3 fights to 1 against Pacman my dude!!…yuuup!

Posted May 10, 2013 3:58 pm 


Boxer

What’s a trip to me and I’m not lying or bull crappin when I say this before Floyd fought Oscar de la Hoya Floyd’s ppv numbers sucked he wasn’t money until Oscar shared the light with him heck a couple fights before that he fought sharmba Mitchell on boxing after dark, Canelo is boxing a next star at 22 years of age, doesn’t got to make a fool of himself todo it either BRONER lol

Posted May 10, 2013 3:55 pm 


Boxe0

He can pretty much beat anybody… on paper. Fights are not fought on paper though. He can beat them but how come he never fought them? If you don’t know who he ducked then you’ve made up you’re mind even you asked the question.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:46 pm 


Ray

Happyboy- You cant say there were never any negotiations with Top Rank. Excuses were made from both camps, that includes Goldenboy promotions that also runs The Money Team. To say TopRank was the the cause is like saying they wanted no part of Mayweather, which is classified as ducking him and that isnt entirely true.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:38 pm 


Ray

you mean anyone from 147 on down… I dont even think Floyd glances or wants to look at the 154lbs division. Like I said before Mayweather will dominate at 147llbs. I doubt he will venture out into the 154lbs for a scalp.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:33 pm 


Happyboy

Ray – you lack common sense, no one is making any excuses here. Look at the facts not fiction, you wanna have us believe that Floyd has ducked the entire Top Rank competition cause his scared, this is not rocket science dude.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:31 pm 


Titopa

NO ONE from 154 down can beat Floyd….NO ONE!

Posted May 10, 2013 3:29 pm 


Titopa

Floyd is going to make Canelo look SILLY!!!!

Posted May 10, 2013 3:28 pm 


PEEJ

And stop bringing up Williams too. That man was so overrated.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:26 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd tried to fight Oscar for a couple years and Oscar turned him down. Floyd tried fighting Mosley at 140 and he turned him down. They where both in there primes

Posted May 10, 2013 3:25 pm 


PEEJ

Cotto turned down a fight with Floyd. After what Floyd did to Gatti, Cotto didn’t want any part of him. Margacheato is with Top Rank and oh he was a cheater so stop saying he didn’t fight him. Floyd agreed to everything Pac demanded and Dloyd asked for 1 thing. Everything else was already agreed apon and Pac came out with some dumb excuses when he could of said know. If there are questions about Floyd from that one fight there are definitely questions about Pac not accepting the fight against Floyd

Posted May 10, 2013 3:23 pm 


mag

LOL everybody Floyd Fights haters are gonna say he cherrypicked smh…. I guarantee you the same idiots that want him to fight Alvarez will say he was cherry picked when Floyd whoops his ass. The’ll say he was too young. Its not Floyds fault he’s that much better than everyone else…

Posted May 10, 2013 3:23 pm 


Ray

Money bro. If there is enough dough you can make the fight happen. That excuse aint flying.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:01 pm 


Happyboy

Ray – Bob Arum doesn’t match any of his boxers with Floyd eversince he quit Top Rank, that means you’ll never see Floyd vs Clottey, Margarito, Pac, Bradley, Rios etc. Cotto was only able to fight Floyd cause he left Top Rank. Get your facts right. Any boxing fan knows this.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:59 pm 


Hecdog

Gentlemen, please stop trying to give Floyd Mayweather more credit than he sincerely deserves. He’s a fantastic fighter, no doubt. Great defense, reflexes and excellent hand and foot speed. The record book says he’s 44-0, but the reality is after watching the Castillo fight over 20 times, he lost that fight clearly. I appreciate his skills, but he doesn’t match up with some current and past great fighters. Sorry, he’s just not a great fighter. He’s athletic and uses his athletic ability to be a good boxer. As far as a being technical boxer that can fight in all areas, and is technically sound, no. He’s far from it. Great fighters fight great fighters. And I mean they exhibit all facets of the fight game. Box, fight out of their comfort zone, fight inside, and take on fighters that push them to the limit. Examples, Julio Cesar Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor, Duran vs Sugar Ray Leonard, Tyson vs Holyfield, Joe Frazier vs Muhammad Ali, these guys were great, and their fights will be talked about and remembered for years to come. Floyd fought only two guys in their prime that I give him credit for. Diego Corrales and Genaro Hernandez (RIP). The rest of the guys like Gatti, Mosely, Hatton and the rest of them were either past their prime, one dimensional or simply not that good. Also, his tarnished unbeaten record isn’t very impressive when you look at other champions that had longer legitimate unbeaten record like Finito Lopez retired at 51-0, Chavez Sr, won was 87-0 before he lost, and he was a much better fighter than Floyd Mayweather. Roberto Duran was 71-1 at one time. Willie Pep was 62-0 before he lost, Rocky Marciano was 49-0, Joe Calzhage was 46-0. And we can go on and on. Each fought in their era, so numbers don’t really tell much about the fighter. The majority of fans can recall one round that stands out in any Mayweather fight. Why? Because he doesn’t fight. I bet most can recall Tyson, Duran, Leonard, Robinson, Chavez and so on. Floyd is a very good athletic boxer, but he can’t match the technique and quality left hook that Chavez had or the left jab of a Larry Holmes, or the movement and technical skills of Rigondeaux. Floyd can do a lot of things good, but he hasn’t mastered the art of boxing. He has mastered, moving, and the rest is his natural athleticism. The same as Roy Jones Junior. He was a great athlete, but never through punches the technically the right way. The only great boxer that had it all was Sugar Ray Robinson. He was athletic, but what a great all around boxer and fighter he was. Floyd will go down as one of the best fighters in his era, but i rate him top 50. Too many other great fighters that were better in all areas, but not as athletic. And yes Rigondeaux is a much better all around boxer than Floyd is. His movement and creativity inside that ring was unmatched. Floyd was athletic, but he always looked awkward compared to the brilliant, technical skills that Rigondeaux had. When Rigondeaux dismantled Donaire, he was gracefull, smooth, technical, and he owned the ring. He never looked panicked in any way shape or form. He was in and out. he took chances and fought inside. He was a marvel. Floyd held on for dear life, moved 20 feet away in a split second, and played it way too safe for a so called great fighter. When fans boo you and leave in your own house, that speaks volumes of your performance. Floyd Mayweather is a very good boxer, and that’s about it.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:58 pm 


Ray

Mayweather didnt face Clottey neither. He wasnt around when there was the risk of facing the freakishly tall Williams. He didnt face the big welters is what Im saying. Hes back and its good for the sport but the competition now is below average for a fighter of his caliber. I cant really see anyone at welter at this time “pushing” his talents. Thats why most people dont get excited with his style of boxing skills.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:49 pm 


Ray

Mayweather didnt fight Margarito when he was on top or Cotto when he was undefeated or Pacquioa when he was on top of his game. If you ask me he made some smart moves. However, out of those 3 fighters at least Pacquioa he should have fought. Alot of $$$ went out the door and for a man that calls himself money its a little confusing as to why he would pass that up. Not saying anything else negative, I personally do think Mayweather had enough skills to beat Pacquioa but sadly they never fought so now we will never know for sure. Alot of questions left unanswered.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:44 pm 


Ray

Mayweather is a great fighter no doubt but he should have fought Pacquioa when he was still on top. Thats why there are alot of questions still left unanswered.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:40 pm 


Pain

No, Floyd. 1 actually succeeded, but you got a gift decision. 3 in their primes would’ve bested you. 2 or 3 may have knocked you out if you had the balls to fight. 1 kicked your ass in sparring. A Bulgarian kicked your butt in the amateurs. A kid may have tested you if not for a sucker punch.

In other words, cherry picking at its finest.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:22 pm 


Fighting Words

There are some a lot of boxing fans that does not understand boxing, and does not understand the business of boxing or any business for that matter. Do Money have Enemies? I Think Not, therefore those who say great fights can not be made between Oscar Del la Hoya and Bob Arum is a miss placement of the understand of business of boxing. Their feeling for each other has nothing to do with the million of dollar by the fighters in these guys stable fighting each other. It appears the fact of the matter they want a monopoly on all the money. Imagine when Manny fought JMM, and Manny got $23 million and JMM got $3 million. At $60 x 1.2 million that is will over $75 million and $26 milllion for the fighters, $3 million for other expensive, wonder wonder who gets the $46 million, I guess the bad blood theory has been put to rest.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:19 pm 


jay

Oh i forgot to ad “CHERRYPICKER OF THE YEAR”.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:49 pm 


jay

The only event Floyd have produce so far are “Boring fights of the year” “People leaving early of a Boring floyds events of the year” “BOOING event of the year” “Women beater of the year ESPY”.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:44 pm 


jay

Great fighters produces “Figths of the year” , “Round of the year” , “Fight of the century” which Floyd have NONE.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:39 pm 


jay

And Showtime will have a very hard time to get it too but with a very expensive tag.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:36 pm 


Mma fighter

I will say it a1000 times who has Floyd beat that was great. He is a very good fighter . Name one hall of famer that he beat in there prime and name guys that weren’t midgets

Posted May 10, 2013 1:36 pm 


Public Enemy

Mexicans got nothing for Floyd, even board resident Mexican Chihuahua Tumbo acknowledges that…

Posted May 10, 2013 1:35 pm 


jay

Yeah, HBO still doesn’t get it.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:34 pm 


Tomato Can

A more accurate statement is: you can lead one to boxing, but you can’t always teach one to appreciate boxing. Some will just never get it…

Posted May 10, 2013 1:14 pm 


Tomato Can

You can lead one to boxing, but you can never teach one to appreciate boxing. Some will just never get it…

Posted May 10, 2013 1:12 pm 


PEEJ

Stephen Espinoza has come out and said Floyd did over a million PPV. This is why he demands a bigger purse and why he is the PPV king

Posted May 10, 2013 1:10 pm 


SREDMOND

How is Canelo “a stepup” for Floyd?? Except for his body weight?! Seriously besides Teout who’s rep is 60% off Cotto who has Canelo beat? A decrepit Shane Mosley who Floyd beat 3 fights prior when he was still winning?? Floyd beat Cotto when he was winning Trout took him directly off a loss… I like Canelo and Trout as young fighters boy NEITHER man is Floyd’s equal, FMJ was fighter of the year 15 years ago and he’s p4p #1 15 years later…. Mayweathers Greatness is stamped he’s 36, if you’re not sold by now it’s not gonna happen so what does it matter??

Posted May 10, 2013 1:08 pm 


PEEJ

I’m still wondering who Mayweather ducked that some of the folks are talking about

Posted May 10, 2013 1:07 pm 


Neil (Pomy)

Dan D – lol

Posted May 10, 2013 1:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Ivan, you have you novice opinion on full display? You said that Floyd should prove he’s the best against Marquez, Pac and Bradley… First of all he humiliated Marquez and won 12 rounds on 2 judges cards if I am correct after a 2 year hiatus (where were you??) he is gonna get some grief for the Pacquaio fight that’s inevitable but Bradley? Bradley has not looked good at WW except against Abregu, Pacquaio was ringing his bell despite that ridiculous robbery, and an unknown fighter like Provodnikov had him staggering all over the place despite him gutting out the win… Floyd would be derided for abusing Bradley…

Posted May 10, 2013 1:00 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd already beat Marquez. I’m sure Bradley can get a shot when he is away from Top Rank. But folks you can’t say he missed fighters if they are with Top Rank. They are not doing business with Floud or Golden Boy. Proof is that they offered them 3 mil for a fight with Mares and they turned it down. Donaire made less money and lost.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:44 pm 


Dan D

Ivan, take it you are a casual fan? Marquez IS on the list. Bradley is a Top Rank fighter so will fight in house, Top Rank, opposition until the day Bob Arum dies.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:42 pm 


Ivan

44??? but in the list aren´t the best boxers…. Pacquiao, Marquez, Bradley… Mayweather should prove it with them

Posted May 10, 2013 12:29 pm 


Breeze

There is no doubt Mayweather is a great boxer… however he definitely chooses his opponents wisely. All big name boxers do this. On one hand they try and pick someone they feel confident against, and also someone who will bring in money. It was the right time to fight Guerrero. He had the hype going after beating Berto, and it was Cinco De Mayo so a boxer with Mexican heritage was important. Guerrero is a good fighter and a worthy opponent, he is just not on Floyd’s level. Floyd’s next opponent will also be a wisely chosen opponent who will bring in money, but will be someone he feels confident he can beat. He does not need to take risks to make money. I wish this was not the case, but it is a business. With all this said, Floyd would have to be a favorite against almost anybody he fought. I acknowledge this fact even though I really do not like his arrogant attitude.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:29 pm 


muning

45 tried, don’t forget the thug’s wife.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:19 pm 


PEEJ

So point out who he ducked? Castillo was after Chico and Augustus. So please let me know who he ducked

Posted May 10, 2013 12:17 pm 


Boxe0

Floyd is the greatest fighter w/ the smallest cohones period. He avoided pretty much everyone in their prime and fought good fighters below his weight class and couldn’t even make weight the contracted weight. His last great fight was against Corales and Augustus. After that its all smoke and mirrors…

Posted May 10, 2013 12:14 pm 


Perdun

Floyd is a cure for insomnia. Too bad he didn’t want to fight Pac.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Chavez is an ATG, Mayweather is an ATG, Pacquaio is an ATG only difference is that Floyd Mayweather is a better fighter than either man head to head neither guy could hit and not take fire in return the way Floyd did… Chavez is a beast but lets break this down do you REALLY believe that most of those first 87 were high quality?? Floyd Mayweather has been in 21 World Title fights I believe that’s 50% of his career in title fights his last 6 or 7 opponents have included 4 sure fire HOFers Cotto, Marquez, Oscar and Shane… 6 multi-weight champs Shane 3, Oscar 6, Cotto 3, Marquez 3, Guerrero 3 or 4, Hatton 2….. Yet when did Chavez face a gauntlet of fighters like that in succession and remember Floyd was in his 30’s when he fight each guy… By the time Chavez was FMJs age he was getting abused by young guns like Oscar and had gotten 2 epic gifts (Taylor and Whitaker) Chavez is an ATG but Floyd Mayweathers consistency is unmatched….

Posted May 10, 2013 12:05 pm 


Public Enemy

Julio Ceaser Chavez Sr was the original Tijuana Glove Loader.. just look at this fight with Meldrick Taylor.. Mirror image of the Cotto vs MargaCheato Brick match….

Posted May 10, 2013 11:45 am 


PEEJ

So once again who should Floyd fight at welter? Who is the so called next best opponent at welter? Pac is about to fight a blown up lightweight and people applaud that. Floyd fights someone who moved up and beat 2 welters and he was cherry picked. The world of double standards

Posted May 10, 2013 11:42 am 


PEEJ

You should check Chavwz Sr record again. First off he lost a fight early in his career only for Mexico to change the results to a Chavez win. He also should have been beat by Sweet Pea. Also check his record DVD you will see he has a resume filled with bums just like his son

Posted May 10, 2013 11:37 am 


PEEJ

Well looks like the fight did do over a million buys from what was just reported. If that’s true wow, doing that with Guerrero is pretty damn good

Posted May 10, 2013 11:35 am 


Joe T

Julio Ceaser Chavez Sr was the true champ. Mayweather with 44 wins big freakin deal

Posted May 10, 2013 11:25 am 


The El Paso Fight Prophet

This is the EasT Side Stupid Website of boxing, Writers and Commentators are one in the same.

Posted May 10, 2013 11:09 am 


Old Albion Onion

“44 have tried and 44 have failed”; So Jose Luis Castillo and Jose Luis Castillo are twin brothers? that explains the difference between fight 1 and fight 2 against Floyd May, the one who get beat by Ricky Hatton is probably the same who loses the second bout against Floyd ….

Posted May 10, 2013 10:54 am 


SREDMOND

Havoc, your statement reeks of silly bias “44 Cherry picked opponents” before Money May, Haymon and the rest Floyd was a World Champion in multiple divisions… Even if you don’t like some of his opponents are you really trying to sell that all 43 (Castillo two wins) were trash ?? See that makes your comment a monument to disdain, built on lazy thinking and 0 analysis…

Posted May 10, 2013 10:53 am 


SREDMOND

Rapid, if being undefeated at TKO juncture of your career and at this level is no big deal then why are you trying to rebut Floyds Greatness with Chavez undefeated record? Clearly being undefeated means something?? And at younger than Floyds age Chavez was getting BEAT… And one could argue that Chavez LOST to the biggest names he faces Taylor was the victim of some horrid judgement that’s not validated by Monday Morning Quarterbacking, Pernell got robbed epically, and Oscar beat him… Guys will say “he was old” he was younger than Floyd of I’m correct? then they will say ODH was big, he was Big when FMJ faced him… Chavez is one of the greatest to ever do it an ATG for sure… But he can’t be used to diminish what Mayweather has accomplished ….

Posted May 10, 2013 10:47 am 


Boxer

We can say all we want about Floyd I mean yea the pacman fight didn’t happen but he did destroy Diego corrales in his prime, hatton in his prime , Judah in his prime young Ortiz in his prime,Marquez in his prime, the Guerrero fight I mean that he makes it look so easy is one thing but you can’t take his credit, now if Floyd only fights out of their prime fighters and gets bashed for it it’s just funny that pacman fought some of those guys years after Floyd did got full credit for it. Don’t fear the truth you guys fear believing lies!

Posted May 10, 2013 10:43 am 


fast79z

bet the ppv sucks, he wants that money then pac, martinez,canelo, needs to earn his money, bet showtime are thinkin twice now, just wants the record and cash, shame on anyone who bought the fight

Posted May 10, 2013 10:40 am 


Tomato Can

Mr Stretch, nice post. That about sums it up.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:30 am 


Tomato Can

Hell, Mayweather could beat 40-50 taxi cab drivers and to build his record ala Julio Chavez Sr. Coud you imagine the crying that would bring? Pfffttt…

Posted May 10, 2013 10:19 am 


malachi

MR. STRETCH`WOW my man, I couldn’t of heard your statement any better now that was a true testament to what has been going on in this wonderful sport of ours well said my dude, well said…yeeezzziirr!

Posted May 10, 2013 10:14 am 


malachi

sweepee beat Chavez handily and was devastatingly robbed and i know a lot of guys don’t like hearing about it but you saw the same thing we all did…yuuuup!

Posted May 10, 2013 10:08 am 


Rapid

Julio Caesar Chavez Sr. before he lost….87 had tried, 87 failed!! and 72 of them got KTFO’d!! And, Mayweather brags about 44?? Pfffft!

Posted May 10, 2013 10:06 am 


BingM3

To be the BEST you have to fight the BEST FLOYD!
Fight the BEST at their PRIME then we can perceive greatness, your 44-0 sounds good but not great.

Posted May 10, 2013 10:00 am 


Hidalgo

“Mayweather WON by Jaw Dropping stoppage.” No, he won by jaw-dropping sucker-punch.

Posted May 10, 2013 9:58 am 


Mr. Stretch

Everyone is calling for PBF to fight Canelo or Martinez and that is fine, nothing wrong with that. He’s also being compared to Pac with debates as to why Pac is better and again nothing is wrong with that. What is wrong is the disparity by which PBF is being judged. in order for PBF to be good or considered great then he needs to fight bigger guys with all the cards stacked against him while Pac could fight guys weight drained and beneath his weight class and still have concessions that gives him an even bigger advantage and that is okay he repeatedly gets a pass but PBF on the other hand gets crap on. As a fan of the sweet science I like skills over sluggers because when its all said and done and the fighters careers are over they still have love ones to support and in many cases they’re faculties are not always there after boxing. I would like to see all of them come back as good productive citizens as so many of the skilled ones have, Paulie, Sweet Pea, McGirt, RRJ, Tarver, SRL and so many more. Versus hearing these guys have some ailment from boxing that prevents them from earning a living to even being homeless as the Ivan Barkley’s of boxing and the Terry Norris’ sorry guys but appreciate the greatness in PBF for what he does he does inside the ring and his commitment to the sport.

Posted May 10, 2013 9:24 am 


Icherrypic@135

Lets be truthful 42 have failed Castillo beat him but lost a close fight in the rematch

Posted May 10, 2013 9:07 am 


SREDMOND

Hecdog, wants to strip Mayweather of his defense in order to level the playing field, why not take away his ring smarts and speed also? I keep saying this same poster was slobbering all over the VERY defensive Rigondeaux for his VERY tactical, low action defeat of Donaire.. Meanwhile he cannot appreciate the booming right hands that were crashing off Guerreros melon… Fakes

Posted May 10, 2013 8:47 am 


SREDMOND

“Mayweather will be remembered as a good boxer” Hecdog our resident Jesus freak, Pacquiao apologist and crackpot… Do you NOT see how easily Manny was pushed to the side after his brutal defeat? I am a huge PAC Man
Fan and I consider him an ATG but despite a massive heart and at best Amazing physical gifts he could not maintain excellence the way FMJ… Not a shot in the world that Floyd would have gotte defeated and took all those shots from Erik Morales, or needed 4 fights to finally show that Juan Manuel Marquez was a fighter he could not defeat clearly, ultimately
Becoming the victim of a highlight reel KO… Mayweather fought Marquez before he was 40 and look what happened? Child Abuse!!! Meanwhile JMM
is looking for another belt at 147….

Posted May 10, 2013 8:43 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is the ultimate “hater killer” his record is flawless, he had NEVER absorbed massive beating, his worst injuries have come from his hands pounding knots into his opponents skulls… The rest of these fighters even the Elites absent Andre Ward have an excuse for the losses they booked, or why they could not get the job done on a particular night… Here are some of the pathetic excuses we have heard from guys on the P4P list “I has Vaseline on my legs” I was poisoned” “It was early in my career when that scrub stopped me” “he stepped on my foot” “he put 60 stitches in my face via right hands, but what does that have to do with boxing?” “I was distracted” “my trainer did not get in the ring and fight for me” and the list goes on…. Being a Floyd Mayweather fan is a pure delight because FMJ ALWAYS shows up ready to handle his business and committed to win, he does not let his opponents pound his talent out of him, he slips, slides and punishes all mistakes with unmatched precision… Only hope guys have is that he is 36 and measurable decline is inevitable that said betting against Money May has been a losing battle for 17 years… Damn
He has been harder on his detractors than almost anyone in boxing history… Never giving them a moments rest…

Posted May 10, 2013 8:30 am 


willypep

I say for Floyd to cement his already growing legacy…cz anyone with eyes can see his true ring greatness…..fight pacquiao now even if it is too late, and then fight Martinez even if is too late…and beat those guys then take on and beat the young improving canelo….and then retire as an all time great, not THE greatest but up there in the conversation for his generation….

Posted May 10, 2013 8:23 am 


willypep

with all due respect to the fabulous fighter from Michigan, I would have to say that Castillo did not fail on his first try!…just watch the fight objectively, no way Floyd beat him ..so 43 is more accurate…

Posted May 10, 2013 8:21 am 


MR.MILLER

No way. Like the man said Floyd just hasn’t fought any of the good guys when they were in their prime, never had a Superfight. If anyone thinks that Floyd is the greatest of all time fine, it’s their opinion. But they aren’t going to convince most people just by saying it over and over again like a broken record.

Posted May 10, 2013 8:07 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Floyd ”Money” Mayweather is the greatest fighter in the history of combat sports bar none.

Posted May 10, 2013 7:29 am 


Happyboy

hecdog – so Marquez is a PEDs puncher yet Pac who has totally refused better testing till today is the greatest. You’re a retard, sorry I meant a Pactard. The greatest who got ktfo by a 40yr old lightweight and is now cherrypicking on another fighter coming off a loss at a country with no boxing commission.

Posted May 10, 2013 4:13 am 


urone2

Coopal , Correlas and Baldamir was supposed the be the one to beat him. He didn’t fight Oscar at his best but he didn’t fight him at a catch weight and not with rehydration clauses. The problem you have is you haven’t been watching boxing long enough. Because Floyd at 140 called out the best and none would fight him. Then when he built his name at 147 the same guys that ran came running for a fight. I would have made them wait as well because they never gave him a shot at all. Watch some fight tape and the interviews afterwards then once you get some more boxing knowledge under your belt come back and speak on what you’ve learned. Oh yeah a forgot about castillio.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:30 am 


What Up

Castillo (I) and De la Hoya both beat FMJ. It’s easy to get ‘0’ in the loss column when you cherry pick, fix fights and get gift decisions. He will never go down as the GOAT and won’t be remembered 10 yrs after retirement due to his boring, safety first approach. He will be remembered as a woman beater though.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:24 am 


hecdog

TJ, I understand defense is part of the game, but fight fans come to see well trained athletes fight if not every round, at least take a few chances like the great fighters do. Ray Leonard, Pryor, Arguello, Duran, Hearns, Roy Jones Sugar Ray Robinson all could box, but they also fought. When you have fans booing and leaving the facility because of the boring lackluster performance by someone that is supposedly the p4p best fighter on the planet, that only tarnishes the sport of boxing. You’re going to get hit in boxing, but as Floyd hit, moved and hugged for the entire fight, it was a horrible exhibition for fans that pay their hard earned money. Look at Adrian Broner, great defense but he fights. Donaire, fights! Mikey Garcia Fights! Quillin, Fights, Judah, fights! De La Hoya, fights! Mosely, fights! Look, if you don’t want to get hit, than go play tennis or ping pong. We fans pay to see fights, and we pay your paychecks. At the least, fight a little bit. You’ll never see fans boo real fighters. Floyd had a taste of what a real fighter was when he stood with Cotto, got, hit, bloodied and didn’t like it, so now you can expect him to move, jump, run and sprint all night, which the majority of boxing fans do not like or pay their money for. Boxers are going to get hit, and the elite make a lot of money. Give us our money’s worth.

Posted May 10, 2013 3:07 am 


Dan D

Hecdog, think you’d perhaps appreciate MMA a little more than the sweet science. Too many casual fans confuse pure boxing with fist fighting. Not all fights are high octane, other use skill. If Floyd fought the same way as a Rios or a Pacquiao his career would’ve been over years ago, same with Hopkins.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:57 am 


TJ

@ HECDOG, the sport is called boxing – the art of hitting the target, your opponent, without getting hit…. If you want to see a fight, go watch MMA or gather outside any pub or nightclub on any given evening and you will see kicking, punching, biting and grappling.

So long as this sport is called boxing I will admire the art of people like Floyd Mayweather, who are able to hit (and for your information, he has a higher success rate in landing his shots than your heroes such as Pacman) an opponent without taking much punishment in return.

This weekend, just like his matchup with Arturo Gatti (RIP), Dinamita and Sugar Shane was a maestro performance and if you cannot appreciate this, then you really should not be involved in the sport of boxing.

I try and model my own performances on hitting without getting hit, but my style is different to Floyd’s and when people see me train they pester me to help them and give them tips on how to improve their own defence, so it is rubbing off on the majority of fight people I meet!!!!

Posted May 10, 2013 2:43 am 


Coopal

Roger Mayweather said “If you’re undefeated it just means you haven’t fought anybody”… referring to Hatton. Well…..

Posted May 10, 2013 2:32 am 


hecdog

Interesting comments from Juan Manuel Marquez after the Mayweather fight. He gave Mayweather his props, and said he has super fast reflexes and timing, but that if he would stand and fight more he would be respected and liked more by boxing fans. He also was asked who had faster hands since he fought them both. He said Manny Pacquiao had faster hands and hit harder. He added that he felt Mayweather could beat Manny only because he would move away and not fight with Manny. Fighters fight, and Mayweather is obviously not a real fighter. He hits,runs and sprints. Rigondeaux when he fought Donaire was brilliant. He was so natural and never looked panicked and scared as Mayweather did in hi fight vs Guerrero. Mayweather moves out of fear, Donaire does it our of skill. That’s the difference between the two, and that’s why IMO, Rigondeaux is a much better boxer in all areas than Mayweather is. Enough said.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:28 am 


Coopal

44-0 but he’s never fought a fighter in his prime or the best competition in his weight class. And…. Castillo beat him.

Posted May 10, 2013 2:26 am 


fraud

KTFO6! Enough said.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:57 am 


hecdog

Mayweather will be remembered as a good boxer that was scared to death of the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Juan Manuel Marquez will be remembered as the Ped Puncher that had his rear kicked by Mayweather and Chris John, yes, Chris John and Manny Pacquiao beat him 3 times. Manny Pacquaio will be remembered as the arguably the greatet fighter of all time. Ris reign of terror will nevere be equaled nor will his 8 division championships. He fought them all, beat them all and never avoided anyone. He had boxing on fire like no fighter has before him. He has so many more talents than any other fighter in boxing history. Manny is also the most beloved because he gave fans everything they want. He doesn’t run away from fighters inside or outside the ring like Mayweather. He doesn’t go around using Peds like JMM. All he’s ever done is fight. All this while being a congressman. Simply amazing. Voted the fighter of the decade. The man cannot be matched, ever. Simply the greatest!

Posted May 10, 2013 1:51 am 


PEEJ

Yeah I just now watched it again. Cortez said lets go and then looked at the time keeper and said lets go. Floyd had his hands up, Ortiz came to hug for the 3rd or 4th time and Floyd did what he was supposed to do.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:39 am 


PEEJ

Actually the red said fight, looked at the time keeper to start the time which is what you do after you tell them to fight so the clock starts accordingly. Ortiz was wanting to apologize again, in which he got 2 pieced. He could of got up and fought in but he chose otherwise. Can’t change history. Ref said fight and waved them together and looked to say time in and that’s how quick it ended.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:34 am 


largo

That said, i don’t agree that Marquez will beat Bradley. I’m ready to give Bradley the benefit of the doubt on his last fight because of weight problems; Manny couldn’t put a dent on the desert storm for 12 rounds so his last fight is misleading. My guess is he’ll be ok for Marquez & Bradley can box & he’s younger & stronger than Juan; like i said, if you go by his last fight, you’ll be mistaken because Tim is a lot better than that…

Posted May 10, 2013 1:33 am 


PEEJ

Tomatoe Can — I don’t want to come off as a Pac hater but most times people who talk down on Floyd are Pac fans. Now I’m a huge Floyd fan, my favorite fighter is Roy Jones. I do like Pac also. Now me saying I’m a huge Floyd fan should not take away that I am a boxing fan first and I try to look through both sides of the glass. So that’s why you’ll see me post the things I post. Also I really like debating with people on here who know boxing. I hate the people on here who know nothing about boxing and are just stuck in there ways. I even like debating with Boxtra on here. When we have debated.

Posted May 10, 2013 1:31 am 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Hey boxtradamus, u had two epic fails we all know about so far this year. Do u still think people don’t know your boxta? You have the CLASSIC use of CAPITALS rocking!!!!

Posted May 10, 2013 1:29 am 


largo

Boxtra or CORRECTAMUNDO don’t bother me, i think he’s amusing & his predictions are funny & original: Floyd by KNEE wobbling stoppage, Floyd by potshotting CLINIC…LOL!

Posted May 10, 2013 1:07 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

You NON reading FOOL. Everyone saw Boxtra predict a WIN for Marquez by knockout. That was one of the GREATEST predictions EVER!!!! Also One of Boxtra’s Ballsack Garglers picked Rios in the 2nd Fight. Boxtra made NO pick in the rematch but he picked Rios in the First Fight and he was CORRECT once again showing GREATNESS. THANKS for the reminder!!

Posted May 10, 2013 1:05 am 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

U know who didn’t have the correct verdict twice this year in fight forcastes? That’s right, it was boxtradamous/correctamundo. What happened with those 2 fights you called wrong this year boxtradamous? Your p4p formual failed u? Weren’t u sayin pac was gonna beat marquez then u called rios to defeat alvarado? Man I burned u in the rios vs alvarado forecast. It got so bad for u around here u had to change ur nae to correctamundo. How’s that working out for u boxtradamus? Lol

Posted May 10, 2013 12:58 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Ortiz is a Big DUMMY. You hug a Dolphin NOT a SHARK. When you hug a SHARK you get eaten UP. IF Ortiz didn’t KNOW NOW HE KNOWS. (Notorious BIG)

Posted May 10, 2013 12:40 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

The Ortiz Fight had the CORRECT verdict. Its a Boxing match NOT a hugging match. Floyd knocked Ortiz OUT as he was attempting to hug him as he SHOULD have. DID Oritz sign UP for a Boxing match or a Hugging Match??? Ortiz is an AIR HEAD. Floyd even gave him a warning as he hit him with a set UP punch FIRST to give him time to react but once he didn’t react he followed UP with the 2nd Punch to see IF he would react to being on the Canvas. IF Ortiz didn’t want to Box he should have stayed HOME. Mayweather came to Box. Not Hug. IF his opponent wasn’t prepared to oblige him than TOO BAD. Mayweather WON by Jaw Dropping stoppage.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:36 am 


Hidalgo

BTW, if Marquez does beat Bradley, he should fight Mayweather again. After all, what will Marquez’s stock be after beating Bradley? Even higher than before. And who else will be the “best” opponent than Marquez? No one according to Pissymundo’s false belief in the misleading and whimsical P4P rankings?

Posted May 10, 2013 12:35 am 


Hidalgo

“Marquez took Boxtradamus’s advice and got himself a Strength and Conditioning Coach.” Dream on Hissymundo.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:32 am 


Tomato Can

Nope, D was you too, you Chameleon…

Posted May 10, 2013 12:29 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

sports. yahoo. com/ box / news?slug=ki-floydsweight091809

Take all the spaces out of that link and read the FACTS for YOURSELVES folks. As I already SAID. Floyd goes by the weight class limits. NOT Marquez’s suggested limit.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:28 am 


Hidalgo

“So the intentional head but which Ortiz admitted to trying to break Floyd’s nose wasn’t a sucker move but Floyd hitting Ortiz after the ref said fight was. You may have the definition of sucker mixed up.”

Peej, Ref Cortez penalized Ortiz with a one-point penalty and warned him not to do it again. Ortiz didn’t need to be “punished” as some people try to justify, by a sucker-punch KO from Floyd. Furthermore, after the fight Ortiz maintained that he did not hear Cortez say “fight” or tell them to resume fighting. Watch a replay of the fight–you’ll see that in fact, Cortez did not. He said “let’s go!”, he waved them to the center of the ring, then turned away from both of them and while looking and talking to an official outside the ring, Cortez’s left hand was wavering just around groin level between both fights–he was attempting to talk to the offical and keep Ortiz and Mayweather apart–but he was very unclear with his signals. Ortiz had his hands at his sides, Floyd sucker-punched him and knocked him out. It’s total BS to say Ortiz got what he deserved or to claim that he deserved to be paid back for his intentional headbutt.

That fight should have been deemed a no-contest and a rematch ordered due to inept refereeing by Cortez, because of the intentional headbutts by Ortiz and the sucker-punches by Mayweather. The whole fight was a fiasco for the four rounds that it landed. H3ll, that idiot Cortez was even chewing out Ortiz, “What are you doing?” when it’s a ref’s job to remain neutral.

The fight was a farce.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:28 am 


2002

JL Castillo tried and succeeded, but the judges failed him.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:28 am 


Tomato Can

Peej, I must say you have many short and concize posts that say it all.. Good Job, man.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:27 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

NO. I didn’t. A, B, and C is the CORRECT answer. YOU had nothing to DO with it SO D is left OUT.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:23 am 


PEEJ

So would Pac be a greedy fool for not accepting 40 mil from Floyd?

Posted May 10, 2013 12:22 am 


Tomato Can

you forgot about D.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:19 am 


Hidalgo

“There was clause in the contract for Floyd to pay for coming in over 144 and he PAID it.”

WRONG! There was no clause in the original contract for Floyd to come in over weight. On short notice Mayweather’s team contacted Marquez’s team to let them know that Floyd was not going to make the required 144 lbs. They hastily asked to rewrite the contract, which would allow Floyd to come in at 146 at a penalty of around $600K to be paid to Marquez.” Marquez–like a greedy fool–agreed to the change.

I think the whole thing was planned from the beginning. I don’t think Floyd had any intention of coming down in weight to make that fight because he just doesn’t do catchweights. He has proclaimed this himself many times, “I don’t do catchweights.”

So, there ya go.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:18 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

A, B, and C. And they were ALL CORRECT.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:15 am 


Tomato Can

advized….

Posted May 10, 2013 12:13 am 


Tomato Can

So who adviced Mayweather to bring his dad back for Canelo? IseeItIfYouDont, BoxtraDamus, Correctamundo, or the lady with the neon red hair?

Posted May 10, 2013 12:13 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Floyd vs. Canelo is NEXT folks. Floyd brought his Pops back for this exact reason. He needed to step UP his Defense and he DID that. Canelo won’t be able to touch him. Floyd by Pot Shotting CLINIC.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:10 am 


PEEJ

If I’m not mistaken Marquez tagged Pac a few times and made him wobble. Fighting at 147 and Marquez landing the same shot put Pac down. Makes since since there was added weight.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:08 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Nope. I’m a FACTMALE. But THANKS for asking.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:07 am 


Tomato Can

CORRECTAMUNDO, you sound a lot like Boxtradamus, and IfYouDontSeeItIdo… Are you a female? if so it’s pretty cool to see a female so into boxing… If that’s you, do you dye you’re hair as much as you change your monikers?

Posted May 10, 2013 12:04 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Congrats to Canelo for finally impressing the EXPERTS enough to become Top 10 P4P. I now condone Floyd going ahead and SPANKING him. Floyd by Pot shotting CLINIC.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:03 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

That’s why Marquez is #3 P4P and Bradley is #9.

Posted May 10, 2013 12:00 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I’m SURE that Marquez will BEAT Bradley. He’s simply more coordinated than Bradley. Boxtra predicted it 3 YEARS ago. Marquez is BETTER than Bradley. The EXPERTS are as CORRECT as I AM on that.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:59 pm 


Tomato Can

What a hack, STFU…..

Posted May 9, 2013 11:58 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Marquez took Boxtradamus’s advice and got himself a Strength and Conditioning Coach. Boxtra SAID that Marquez could beat ANY Welter besides Mayweather and he was CORRECT. Once Marquez took Boxtra’s advice and faced Pacquiao with a Strength and Conditioning Coach he out Boxed Pacquiao in one Fight and then knocked him out in the next….IF you just take Boxtra’s advice as you take MINE you can’t go wrong….I ADVISE Malignaggi to pull out of the Broner Fight with a HAND injury just as I advised Bute and he LISTENED. Bute was on his way to a LOSS.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:56 pm 


Tomato Can

I am interested in Marquez/Bradley… Marquez’s age and Bradley’s last outting has me not sure what’ll take place. As for now, I’m leaning towards Marquez, based on Bradley’s lack of ring smarts in his last fight.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:55 pm 


urone2

Pac was out fought in his fight against Marquez, Pac stepped in the avoid the looping right the Marquez had been throwing all night. But, it the right came straight making Pac run into it full force Light out uh huh flash flash flash.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:54 pm 


Tomato Can

Icherrypic@135, fans like you will push for a rematch. But many will disagree with you. Myself, I think it would be the same thing all over again.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:51 pm 


urone2

Is he just mad Pac got stretched. Mayweather cherry picked, all of Pac fights were setups. The reason Mayweather didn’t cherry pick Pac is because Pac was in no position the set Mayweather up to lose. Pac=Weight drained contracts.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:51 pm 


Icherrypic@135

Tomato Can Marquez also can in with a spare tire around his waist the Marquez that knock out Pacquaio came in the right way that would have made a difference too. Those who disagree well just take a look at Pacquaio being dropped in round 3 than knock out. In 3 previous fight Marquez never dropped Pacquaio

Posted May 9, 2013 11:49 pm 


Tomato Can

JMM, knows how to fight Pac, he’ll always have problems with Mayweather, because Mayweather does what JMM does, but he does it better.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:48 pm 


Tomato Can

perhaps, Peej…

Posted May 9, 2013 11:46 pm 


PEEJ

Him not making the weight was a ploy for the Pac fight. Showing trouble of him making weight even though he wasn’t. That was when Floyd tacked on a lot of stipulations in which Floyd agreed but Pac didn’t want to agree to Floyd’s only demand. So that’s what happened with that fight. And if you ask Marquez, first off he does not want a rematch and he said Floyd was better than Pac

Posted May 9, 2013 11:44 pm 


Tomato Can

And if Chris John could give JMM a good fight, Mayweahter would beat him everytime. I doubt you’d see Mayweather run into a shot like we whitnessed Pacquiao do last year.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:41 pm 


PEEJ

So the intentional head but which Ortiz admitted to trying to break Floyd’s nose wasn’t a sucker move but Floyd hitting Ortiz after the ref said fight was. You may have the definition of sucker mixed up.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:40 pm 


Tomato Can

JMM got $600,000 extra and nothing to lose. But really if you look it, if May would have made weight. JMM’s chances could have increased, by Mayweather not being himself due to overtraining. But how much of a difference would it have made? Would Mayweahter have been knocked down the two or three times that JMM landed a punch, or would he have gotten tired in the late rounds, and lost some of those rounds? I think we would have seen a less capable Mayweather, maybe a weight drained Mayweather. I think both fighters made the fight choice. After all, that gave JMM an idea of what to do and not to do when fighting above 140. And that paid off big time, in the whole scheme of things, didn’t it?

Posted May 9, 2013 11:39 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Nope. I always come out with the TRUTH blazing. The TRUTH is that Floyd outsmarted Juan Manuel Marquez when Marquez tried to out smart HIM. Welterweight limit is 147 NOT 144. SO Floyd decided to come IN a pound UNDER the WW limit forget the Marquez limit. There was clause in the contract for Floyd to pay for coming in over 144 and he PAID it. And then WON the Fight in a BLOWOUT…..SKILLS WON the Fight not SIZE. Rigondeaux and Chavez Jr. agree with ME on that.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:38 pm 


Icherrypic@135

Fightwords HBO just got rid of their dead weight

Posted May 9, 2013 11:37 pm 


Hidalgo

Well, Tomato Can, I also just have to wonder why Marquez didn’t say NO! You agreed to fight at 144 or you forfeit the fight and you get a loss.” I guess that extra $600,000.00 that Juan banked helped him to forget all about their original contractual agreement and the fact that Floyd was actually cheating–until the last minute contract made it “legal” of course. Then there was the sucker-punch “win” over Ortiz. Such a sterling 44-0 record!

Now watch Tomato Can. Shortly, SRedmond and “Correctamundo” will come out with guns blazing. LMAO! Oh, and Happyboy, Ghetto Thug, and one of the “Anonymous.”

Posted May 9, 2013 11:30 pm 


Tomato Can

fighters

Posted May 9, 2013 11:26 pm 


Tomato Can

three more good fightes that will be considered bums, will get Mayweather to 47-0.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:25 pm 


Tomato Can

Agreed, JMM is Mayweather’s new best friend, in a little brother that you can beat up kind of way….

Posted May 9, 2013 11:24 pm 


Hidalgo

“two more fights to win.”

Posted May 9, 2013 11:23 pm 


Hidalgo

Did I read, “Calzaghe: 46 have tried, 46 have failed?” OMG Joy Jr.! You got to more fight to win to beat Calzaghe’s record!

Posted May 9, 2013 11:23 pm 


Tomato Can

yup, 2 pounds above the catch weight. I guess Mayweather was pretty smart, cause he got away with it and entered the ring in spectacular shape instead of being weight drained. Two bad there wasn’t a strap up for that fight, or Mayweather could have been more than just fined hundreds of thousand of dollars.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:22 pm 


Hidalgo

“SO he won’t land it on Floyd either. Floyd would WIN that Fight by BRUTAL UD or late stoppage.” Easy for you to say now since JMM already laid the carpet for Mayweather to walk on.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:20 pm 


Fighting Words

According to Fightnews.com: The Mayweather fight got less then a million views. That can been a good thing for boxing fans and who want to see Mayweather earn his keep with providing the fight fans wtih good quality fights. He recently signed a 6 fights $250 million deal with Show Time. Show Time can not a make a profit and pay Mayweather that $250 million with the PPV number under 1.2 million. In order for Show Time to make good return on their investment of $250 million, Mayweather numbers needs to be around 1.2 – 1.5 million in PPV numbers. Given the PPV number less then a million, I think it would be good business management for Show Time to tell Mayweather that he needs to step up the competition in next 5 fights. If they not, Show Time can become a laughing stoke by HBO with those bad showing number and Mayweather getting pay that many millions. Of course this is good for the fans, this shows that fight fans are getting feed up with these poor fight choices that Mayweather is making and he is pimping the fighting fans at the same time for purchasing his fight because fans are starving for good fighting action.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:19 pm 


Hidalgo

Oh, so sorry. I was off topic. I was reminiscing about another article.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:19 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Pac should have learned how to land something that Bradley couldn’t see since Bradley’s Defense is LESSER than Floyd’s but he couldn’t. SO he won’t land it on Floyd either. Floyd would WIN that Fight by BRUTAL UD or late stoppage.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:17 pm 


Hidalgo

Wasn’t Mayweather’s fight with JMM at a catchweight of 144 lbs? Oh wait! Last minute contract change because Mayweather decided to cheat on his weight. Oh yeah, I remember!

Posted May 9, 2013 11:16 pm 


Tomato Can

3 or 4 out of 44? Canelo already has that smashed at 22.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:07 pm 


Tomato Can

LOL, what was I thinking 3 or 4 out of 44 were acutally smaller than Mayweather. That’s criminal.

Posted May 9, 2013 11:01 pm 


MR 666

tomatoe soup-wats this about? “Just because Mayweather is the most technically skilled fighter, doesn’t mean he should enter the ring with a size handicap” did u forget that money out weight jmm?

Posted May 9, 2013 10:59 pm 


Tomato Can

MIke, get with the times, there’s no reason for him to be afraid of Pac. Pac just got crushed.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:49 pm 


Tomato Can

Martinez is another fighter who is done, and plauged by injuries at 38. His best day are gone now. Ask Martinez if he want to fight GGG, or Quillian? I don’t think so. He want to fight slow fighters, and now even they are starting to break him down…. Done.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:48 pm 


Mike

the reason why floyd does’nt want to figth pacman is that he is afraid of him, because the chance of beating floyd is very much possible… pacman maybe lost to marquez but look at the damage marquez has got on his face because of the power punch of pacquiao…

Posted May 9, 2013 10:47 pm 


Tomato Can

I doubt Mayweather wants to fight Canelo at his comfortable weight with 5 fights to go in his contract. A catch weight fight maybe.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:46 pm 


Tomato Can

Style’s make fights, and Pacquiao would have a chance at landing something Mayweather wouldn’t see. But really, Mayweather would dictate the pace and out smart and beat Manny to the punch all night.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:44 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez is to big and can’t make 154. I think Mathyssa is too conventional. Floyd’s defense is too much. Pac is easy money for Floyd. Once again people would accuse him of cherry picking or fighting a blown up 140 pounder

Posted May 9, 2013 10:43 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd is not gonna fight anybody at a catch weight. He has already talked garbage about Pac doing that with a lot his fights so know way he does that. Plus he likes to beat fighters at there comfortable weight.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:41 pm 


mark

STYLE’S MAKE FIGHTS AND I THINK PACMAN CAN GIVE MAYWEATHER THE BEST FIGHT OF HIS LIFE. I ALSO LIKE MATTHYSSE AND MAYBE MARTINEZ .

Posted May 9, 2013 10:40 pm 


Tomato Can

I think Khan would do well against Mayweather, early. But would end up being a KO victom inside of 9.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:39 pm 


Tomato Can

at a 150 catch weight fans wouldn’t take it seriously, even though Canelo is only 22.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:37 pm 


Tomato Can

The thing is, if Mayweather fights Canelo now, it would end up being a 150 pound catch weight fight. Is that something the fans are willing to endure? Bronner wouldn’t be much of a challange IMO. But if PM, can find a way to beat him, his stock will probably rise to number 1 in the Mayweather sweep stakes.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:36 pm 


TARK

Canelo another cherry-pick??? … That’s the first and toughest opponent most fans say they want to see Floyd fight next. Who else but Canelo and Broner are out there right now who can give Floyd fits??? We don’t want Khan.. We don’t want Alexander, who couldn’t hang with Bradley and pretty much quit in that fight.. Garcia would be great but he should beat a welterweight first.. Matthysse would be great but he should also beat a welterweight.. AB did the smart thing, nabbing a WW title by corralling Paulie.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Sorry Mark I didn’t read your full post. But I should remind you, that Mayweather already had a seat reserved in the HOF before Pacquiao even became a house hold name.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:28 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

mark-WHO is Pacman??? Floyd already BEAT the 2nd BEST Boxer of HIS era in Juan Manuel Marquez. The only man to knock out the NEW and IMPROVED version of Pacquiao.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:24 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

45 will ALSO fail. There’s no one within Floyd’s weight range that can beat him at THIS time. Maybe by the end of his contract he’ll be beatable but not NOW.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:22 pm 


Tomato Can

mark, you’re not alone. There are many casual fans of the plodder that feel exactly like you do.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:22 pm 


Tomato Can

Khan probably wouldn’t beat him, but if he can keep from getting knocked out, he may get his shot. Petterson, Matthysse, Maidana are all fights I wouldn’t mind seeing. Yes they are all 140 pounders, but everyone of them is actually naturally bigger than Mayweather. All those guys will be moving up to 147 anyway.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:20 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“wow I thought people walked out on this”-Yup that’s what they DO when someone gets DOMINATED. Jack Nickolson walked out and BOOED when the Lakers got SPANKED by the Spurs TOO.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:20 pm 


mark

I SAW A MAYWEATHER FIGHT HE LOST -CASTILLO . I FEEL MAYWEATHER IS HURTING THE SPORT OF BOXING BY NOT FIGHTING THE BEST AT THERE PRIME . MAYWEATHER IS A GREAT BOXER AND IT TAKES HEART TO GET INTO THE RING , BUT IF YOU KNOW BOXING MAYWEATHER DOSE NOT CARE FOR THE FAN’S OR BOXING JUST MONEY. I SAY NO TO THE HALL OF FAME IN TILL HE FIGHTS PACMAN .

Posted May 9, 2013 10:18 pm 


Tomato Can

Mayweather may fight at 154 before he’s done, but there is no HOF’r worthy of him leaving 147 right now. And lets make that clear, that both time’s Mayweather left 147 it was to fight a future HOF’r like himself. Has Canelo Alverez, earned his seat in the HOF, yet? I didn’t think so. Alverez would have a better shot than most cause he has some speed, pretty good pop, and would enter the ring weighing 15 pounds more than Mayweather. Other than that it’s no contest… At 147 there are plenty of good fighter’s worthy of challanging Mayweather. Just because Mayweather is the most technically skilled fighter, doesn’t mean he should enter the ring with a size handicap, like many have been hoping for years now. All he has to do is defend his title, at this point.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:14 pm 


Tomato Can

According to many here, 44 opponents don’t meant squat. I guess there’s a lot better fighters than Mayweather out there. That’s the crazy thing about boxing. A fighter can be the very best at his trade, and many will hate him for being that good… Hell Gurerro tried to feed the haters with his talk leading up to this last fight. Even his dad tried to get on the hater band wagon, but heck if it didn’t work at all. So I think it’s safe to say, no matter who Mayweather fights, there will always be some fighter that some hater will think he ducked.

Posted May 9, 2013 10:07 pm 


PEEJ

And Floyd will finish his last few fights at Showtime. Showtime is going no where

Posted May 9, 2013 9:57 pm 


PEEJ

So who at 147 should he fight since he is cherry picking? Of course nobody has the answe, all they can say is move up and fight. The guy has moved up a few weight classes and people want him to keep moving up. Heck everybody applauded Pac for fighting Margacheato at a catch weight, he has never fought at 154. How come the same is not demanded for Pac. Your only excuses is that he is a cherry picker but you can’t name a certain fighter he should of fought unless its at 154 or above. Terrible

Posted May 9, 2013 9:56 pm 


HBO

We at HBO walked out of these SISSY too and Showtime will too YOU WATCH.

Posted May 9, 2013 9:51 pm 


boxingfan

I hear talks about Mayweather and Alvarez. Alvarez is good, no doubt but Floyd has too much experience on him. Another cherry picked opponent.

Posted May 9, 2013 9:38 pm 


boxingfan

Risk Management…I agree.

Posted May 9, 2013 9:36 pm 


boxingfan

What is this supposed to mean? Most of his recent fights have been cherry picked against blown up, dehydrated or inexperienced phenoms. Give me a break.

Posted May 9, 2013 9:35 pm 


Risk Management

Well, if you cherrypick your opponent, sure you can stay undefeated that long. This is the modern age, this is how you stay “great” .

Posted May 9, 2013 9:33 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is not part of the equation because Floyd would beat him easy and of course he is with Top Rank. It will never happen. The Canelo fight will happen just probly not next. He has 5 remaining fights left. He can’t do the block buster fight on the 2nd fight. But what other fighters did he so called duck?

Posted May 9, 2013 9:22 pm 


Ilocano

44 times I watched him fought 44 times I failed to stay awake.

Posted May 9, 2013 8:54 pm 


Mike

fight manny pacquiao or canelo alvarez and we’ll see hahaha

Posted May 9, 2013 8:53 pm 


Proud African

Calzaghe ducked Chad Dawson.

Posted May 9, 2013 8:49 pm 


tarugojones

Some tried to fight him, Floyd ducked.

Posted May 9, 2013 8:44 pm 


Proud African

Guerrero fans found it boring and walked out in dismay. Lol.

Posted May 9, 2013 8:37 pm 


badger

wow I thought people walked out on this sparring match during the 10 th round. must be a diiferent match.

Posted May 9, 2013 8:23 pm 



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