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TARK

Sred… Trout is a very good fighter.. He was an undefeated World Champion.. I didn’t even think Canelo’s people would let him face Trout, but the kid is nobody’s fool.. DLH wanted to go with Cotto.. Canelo himself is the guy who said, “Look.. I don’t want to fight Cotto because he lost to Trout.. I was there.. I saw the fight, and Trout won.. I want the winner. Are you on Twitter? The fans on Twitter want me to fight Trout. Don’t talk to me until you approach the Trout team with an offer. I’m not fighting anyone else and get that through your head.” Words very close to that — and to that effect.

But it was a close, hard fight. Canelo was very intelligent and mature in his approach to the fight as his lead on the scorecards expanded to an unreachable margin.. He made Trout come to him and take big chances.. Canelo may not have accomplished half of what Floyd has accomplished at the age of 22.. But He’s still the most appropriate and talked about opponent for Mayweather.. It’s a damned good fight and Floyd knows it.. Floyd has acknowledged as much.. An undefeated World Champion, and at the age of 22 he’s the top rated Super Welterweight in the World … Floyd also holds a title at 154 — so why not unify???

Posted May 18, 2013 11:39 pm 


tumbelina

Tark – How can unify the 154lb belts by fighting the other Champions at 154lbs.. simple..

Posted May 18, 2013 6:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo and Broner MIGHT have bright futures or they MIGHT get taken out 22 year olds looking good in boxing are a dime a dozen… Gary Russell Jr and Keith Thurman look good too… Alvarez is not a proven commodity and when his body puts him in the ring with 160 pounders we will see how well he fares, perhaps good perhaps NOT… Meldrick Taylor, Donald Curry, Naseem Hamed, Jeff Lacy and Jermaine Taylor all looked like the next HOFER till they got caught out there….Call me in 4 years, Canelos nobody’s Andre Ward who killed off the best in his division then stopped the best LHW in the world…Novices and hype mongers

Posted May 18, 2013 6:48 pm 


TARK

I don’t see it posted. So I didn’t say it yet.

Posted May 18, 2013 6:29 pm 


Mma fighter

Anyone that thinks Oscar and Mosley weren’t washed up when floyd fought them is a fool all Floyd loves the only names u have are Marquez an Diego that is it . Ask your self why it took so long to fight them . I know they ducked him and then fought him

Posted May 18, 2013 4:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitali is a guy who’s record is built off C level competitors 0 Big name boxers… He’s a HW who could NEVER box with the nuance and craft of a lower weight fighter… When discussions of Great KO Artists ensue no ones creaming over Vitali because he NEVER makes the highlight reel… We all know he’s the TKO King, but his style and opponents especially are so forgettable that the public here could care less… They reward the flawless skill of Mayweather who was NEVER forced to QUIT by a guy he outweighed by 34 pounds (Chris Byrd) again the larger point is your flip flopping… One minute level of comp counts the next it does NOT… Mayweather has dominated a VASTLY superior level of competitor than Klits and NEVER LOST or had his face bashed in doing it…An OLD Lewis was still too much for Klitschko…44-0 Klits barely fights World Class competition…

Posted May 18, 2013 3:53 pm 


TARK

Canelo shoud definitely get a shot at unifying Floyd’s 154-pound title, just like he unified Trout’s title, and in so doing is the most recognized 154-pound champion in the world.. Canelo barely makes 154 and couldn’t possibly make 147.. You’re killing the fight if you lend credence to this.

That being said, comments about people doing the Harlem shuffle are not needed. Let’s keep comments fair and free from bigoted sentiments.

Posted May 18, 2013 3:42 pm 


BEARS

settle down sredmond before you get your denture teeth knocked out.

Posted May 18, 2013 2:57 pm 


BEARS

Trout also looked better against cotto than mayweather did. LOL. then canelo smokes trout. trout might have been flailing and keeping his hands out there but that was nothing. canelo did everything in the bout against trout. everything meaningful. even knocking that dude down and making him do the harlem shuffle. the speed, deffense, and power of canelo is undenaible. he is everything one would want to see in the ring against floyd and he would immediately be floyds best opponent. as i said before i called canelo to clearly beat trout. canelo has a very bright future. and mayweather will have no bearing on that. if they fight or if they dont. still. mayweather will have no bearing on canelos bright future. BANK ON IT

Posted May 18, 2013 2:32 pm 


BEARS

this canelo is definetly better than the the versions of oscar and mosely floyd faced and who would really disagree with that? seriously who? speak up NOW. in fact canelo dominated mosely and looked better if you ask me. mosely wobbled and hurt floyd. he didnt wobble and hurt canelo son. bahahahaahahaha. and yes to me styles make fights. canelo would definetly be a much stiffer and better level of comp than the dominated marquez. floyd wouldnt come close to doing that to canelo are you kidding me? and for many reasons. you think because marquez has done what he has done at the weights he has done it that based on that he matches up against floyd better than canelo would? not in the least. you think that because marquez’s style matches well against pac and not against floyd that somehow that indicates floyd and pac dont need to fight because floyd would just smoke pac? thats what your getting at and you KNOW BETTER. you know styles make fights. thats why THEY PLAY THEY GAME. THATS WHY FIGHTERS FIGHT. this canelo did SMOKE that mosely and looked less vulnerable doing it and got the exact same score as floyd. weather mosely shouldve been given a round is very debatable. but what cant be debated is mosely hammering wobbling and hurting floyd. LOL. it was beautiful. would the canelo in the ring with trout smoke the oscar floyd fought? a resounding HELL YEAH

Posted May 18, 2013 2:19 pm 


TARK

Smith writes…, “I hope he’s ready to fight a guy that will be close to 30 pounds heavier than him the night of the fight.” … Now it’s 30 pounds? WOW!!! This is weight inflation. You’ve got Floyd fighting a cruiserweight. Talking about a guy giving up 5 weight divisions in weight is ridiculous. In reality Floyd won 2 World Championships at 154. Fighting a freckled faced 22-year-old kid with only one (1) quality win, as you say—in a weight division where Floyd has enjoyed massive success in the past—shouldn’t be an overwhelming burden for history’s greatest fighter.

Posted May 18, 2013 2:16 pm 


BEARS

you know what happens when you fight a bunch of awesome fighters? you get worn. thats what sredmond. you loose a little bit of yourself in that ring. and eventually maybe a non great dude on the right night pulls your card and has your number. because of everything that transpired in that ring up to that point up to that night. mayweather has NOTHING to compare to the REAL greats. NOTHING AT WHATSOEVER. not even close. mayweather has fought nothing close to them guys. so its completely different circumstances and dynamics. could those guys have thrived on mayweathers comp? psh hell yeah

Posted May 18, 2013 2:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Ray Robinson never fought at 130 pounds like Floyd did and when he was losing to a nobody like Ralph Jones what was up with that???? Ray never fought in 5 divisions if Floud fought at 160 that would be 6… Back in Rays day a MW weighed 160 fight night (same day weigh-in) today that same MW might be Chavez Jr who comes to fight in the 180’s… Again Floyds one of the best if not the best Ring Generals in boxing history… Canelo beat him easily?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA let him come to 147 and try, at 154 he would have a 20% chance with a 22 pound advantage… But facing the Boss at his best weight he has NO shot… Kids just big he cannot box anything close to FMJ’s level…

Posted May 18, 2013 1:57 pm 


BEARS

“shane has one of his biggest victories going into the mayweather bout” no he didnt. margarito was practically DISARMED and very worn and about retired. once the concrete hands were gone it was over and that was clear. winky had dominated mosely, cotto beat mosely, and now all the sudden mosely beats a disarmed (no cement hands and done), mosely had been beaten a bunch of times. and all the sudden he’s a great scalp for mayweather? GTFO. past it, enough said. post retired oscar past it. obviously, you can pivot to his fake trinket and blah blah blah. irrelevant. past it, enough said. it is everything i said it was. if you disagree again its IRRELEVANT.

Posted May 18, 2013 1:32 pm 


SREDMOND

How in the WORLD would Canelo be Floyd’s “best opponent” Alvarez has ONLY one World Class opponent in his resume, he’s been facing mostly WW’s…. Bears basically just said that Canelo is better than Marquez, Cotto, Oscar, Mosley and Genaro Hernandez?? See this is why guys with a low boxing IQ dont deserve to post… He questions Floyd’s opponents yet lauds Canelo to the high heavens when his best win is a close fight with Trout whose rep is 60% off Cotto who Floyd had already UDed in the fight before… This fools ridiculous Canelos NOBODY from a historical perspective…

Posted May 18, 2013 1:24 pm 


Dax Fertguson

Sugar Ray Robinson had no problem handling genuine big tough middleweights when he reigned as welterweight champion. But then Robinson was just maybe the best fighter that ever lived and certainly the best welterweight of all time.
Ray Leonard, Kid Gavilan, Tommy Hearns, Jose Napoles and Wilfred Benitez wold have probably easily beaten Mayweather, And Carmen Basilio…
Mayweather is a good boxer but he can’t break an egg. Canelo would beat the hell out of him and he knows it!

Posted May 18, 2013 1:17 pm 


deven

Floyd has the right to finish his career as he sees fit, whether or not it includes canelo. The problem is sho says they have a say in who Floyd fights. If he sold 870,000 ppb as Dan rafael states and. I believe him, they will force him as much as they can given the first fight financial loss in the 6 fight contract, to fight canelo. This is why canelo removed himself from Floyd’s fights because he was being used to cushion the numbers. This is going to be interesting how this turns out.

Posted May 18, 2013 1:13 pm 


SREDMOND

How was Floyd Cherry picking Oscar and Shane? Oscar had the belt at 154, was the biggest attraction in boxing, younger than Floyd is now and holding a considerable size advantage… Shane was rated #3 in the World and had knocked out one of the toughest guys in boxing…. All men were in their 30’s??? I don’t see any concessions when you want to spot Canelo 14 years and 22 pounds? Different rules?? Of course because FMJ is still the Boss at a point where Ray Leonard was living off his name and I love Sugar Ray… He simply was not as smart or disciplined as Floyd who was is not using drugs etc… Leonard’s wins over Duran (rematch) Hearns, Benitez and Hagler are epic and thus he’s top 5 at WW… But Floyd Mayweather is building a crazy legacy extending into his mid 30’s reigning over the sport and still it’s best practitioner even as he slows down…

Posted May 18, 2013 12:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Mosley and Oscar were not “washed up” Shane had his one of his biggest victories coming into the Mayweather fights and The fact is both Shane managed to give Floyd a scare in round 2 before getting rattled, Oscar and Cotto gave Floyd good competition at 154 all men are HOFers a lot of people say that Leonard out pointed Hagler who was on the slide after a war with Mugabi… Fact is that Duran QUIT in the ring despite is exploits and was knocked cold by Thomas Hearns who later got beat by an unimpressive fighter like Iran Barkley… Bears finally sees what I mean about the TERRIBLE resume of Vitali Klits who has defeated mostly C level fighters in his career and 0 HOFERS WHEREAS Floyd Mayweather is his 30’s when Ray was getting embarrassed by Terry Norris and and gifted the second time against Hearns (Mayweather has defeated 4 Hall of Famers in his last 6 fights). You keep calling everyone old and past it but you want the 36 year old to spot the 22 year old 22 pounds?? And why is that?? It’s because even as his age advances he’s a BETTER ring general than damn near anyone in history the rest had already been gotten to… Floyd Mayweathers worst night in recent memory he got a bloody nose… Leonard had been whitewashed for 12 rounds by Norris who was only chosen because he was considered “Chinny” after Julian Jackson had draped him on the ropes… Durans an ATG but he also has the MOST famous QUIT job in history on his resume “No Mas” Floyd Mayweather is the smartest fighter I have seen in a consistent basis, taking little punishment but efficiently dishing it out…

Posted May 18, 2013 12:09 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Canelo will clearly and immediately be floyds best opponent to date. And if you say he is not than who is? Oh wait, ur talkn outta ur crap hole

Posted May 18, 2013 11:47 am 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Floyd didn’t fight the guys leonard, duran, and hagler fought. In fact not even close. Floyds best fights are not even in same solar system in terms of level of comp as floyd has ducked anything remotely close to such a level. The only thing people will be studying on floyd and his “ring generalship” is how to cherry pick past it washed up fighters oscar mosely gatti and cotto and never as good ortiz and guerrero and baldomir. But it sounds better when you say “floyds opponents were hof this andhof that and champion this and champion that” how about the truth they were washed up or holding trinkets and were never considered that good as no floyd mayweather fan can point to floyds best opponent. I mean with such a “supposed” distinguished career you should be able to point to some halmark awesome opponents and matchups if your comparing floyd to hagler hearns duran leonard and pacman. You know as pac was fighting trilogies with morales and barera. Floyd fake retired and ducked and has manipulated a fake cherry picked mediocre of a legacy. Please we don’t laud ducks and fake retiree’s. Maybe if he wasn’t such a fake duck but he is. As if people are gonna watch floyd fight washed up fighters and the guerreros and ortizs of the world as if its ring genralship mastery! Lol!!! ALMOST AS FUNNY AS WHEN REDMOND SAID “boxing would be paralyzed without floyd” whatever will us boxing fans do? Who will take over fighting washed up fighters and the ortizs and guerreros of the world? Come to think of it, I haven’t even watched those fights. They were predetermined outcomes and I don’t waste my time with garbage. Lol

Posted May 18, 2013 11:20 am 


SREDMOND

Canelo is being discussd like he accomplished something that makes him so duckable… He’s not the best fighter Floyd will have faced by a long shot his only advantage is the fact that it has been correctly noted he will have 20 plus pounds on a 36 year old fighter… Beyond that all you can say is he beat Austin Trout in a competitive fight despite that dubious scoring in Texas… Again I like Canelo, but this is not a Leonard vs Hearns scenario not even Mayweather vs Pacquiao 3 years ago… Alvarez absent all that extra tonnage does not have a 5% chance of beating even a non prime version of FMJ… But possibly taking shots from a guy who has 22 pounds on you is a dangerous proposition for ANY fighter… Canelo avoids this because he’s HUGE at the weight and most of his opponents are not players at 154… I don’t blame him for seeking to continue the practice, but Floyd’s not Trout he holds the cards and if Canelos gonna call him out he’s gonna have to see him where Floud says… Dawson wanted Ward so he had to suck it up, Canelos no different you want a shot at the P4P throne then come and get it…

Posted May 18, 2013 9:29 am 


Mma fighter

Every one has all these excuses why didn’t may weather say at first that it would be at 147. Now strip his belt at 154. And it’s okay when Floyd weight more than most of his 147

Posted May 18, 2013 8:50 am 


T-Mellow

Love Duran but he’s not the greatest fighter of all time. No fighter who has ever quit is the greatest of all time. He is however a top 10 greatest fighter of all time.

Posted May 18, 2013 8:49 am 


ChihuahuaKillers

The bottom line is Floyd does not and never has needed Canelo Alvarez for anything.. His Greatness and Wealth has been of his own doing.. but Canelo needs Mayweather badly for his biggest Pay check ever.. because outside of his Mexican Fans he’s still a nobody who really has done nothing great in the ring… Without Floyd Canelo will have to defend his belt vs his Mandatories and even Canelos people know he won’t survive those Matches…

Posted May 18, 2013 7:12 am 


BeisBall

The bottom line is Floyd does not and never has needed Canelo Alvarez for anything.. His Greatness and Wealth has been of his own doing.. but Canelo needs Mayweather badly for his biggest Pay check ever.. because outside of his Mexican Fans he’s still a nobody who really has done nothing great in the ring… Without Floyd Canelo will have to defend his belt vs his Mandatories and even Canelos people know he won’t survive those Matches.

Posted May 18, 2013 7:11 am 


BeisBall

The bottom line is Floyd does not and never has needed Canelo Alvarez for anything.. His Greatness and Wealth has been of his own doing.. but Canelo needs Mayweather badly for his biggest Pay check ever.. because outside of his Mexican Fans he’s still a nobody who really has done nothing great in the ring… Without Floyd Canelo will have to defend his belt vs his Mandatories and even Canelos people know he won’t survive those Matches…

Posted May 18, 2013 7:11 am 


SREDMOND

When boxers are shown video of the BEST ring General of this era and possibly all time it won’t be Pacquaio, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler or ODH… Each of these men despite their Greatness was outfoxed and taken outbid his gameplan… Floyd can do it for the entire night and simply shuts down HOFers, World Class opponents and Champions… Tommy failed to adapt 2x and got knocked out, Duran quit, Hagler tried to box a better boxer, Leonard got drawn into a pissing contest and took his first loss against Duran and later Terry Norris who boxes him senseless when he was 2 years younger than FMJ… Floyd’s the smartest and most disciplined boxer I have ever seen… Pacquiao could not sufficiently make his point 3x against Marquez and was flatlined by a 39 year old fighter..Floyd picked his teeth with the Great Marquez, Mayweather would NEVER lose to the once Great Morales he is simply too damn good… Floyd’s got his belts in 5 weights lets see Canelo emulate that feat..

Posted May 18, 2013 6:24 am 


SREDMOND

Hecdog, Im a huge Pacquaio fan and have defended him plenty but he made manipulating guys weight standard practice… He even sought a bout with Coti AGAIN under 154 pounds which Miguel rejected in lieu of facing FMJ at 154… Floyd’s 36 and he’s NOT dumb or ruled by silly machismo, the man knows the respect of guys like yourself is beyond his grasp, Canelo is just the latest name to come up and the ONLY area he has any advantage over FMJ is body mass… Which is something you can say about a lot of boxers, like GGG, Chavez Jr, Cunningham and Adamek… Duran was knocked cold by Hearns as for Hagler how many divisions did he fight in? He fought in ONE and the 3 best names on his resume win or lose were better I’m lower weights Leonard, Duran, and Hearns… Again FMJ’s topped out and if Canelo wants to get the fight it’s gonna be absent a 22 pound advantage… At age 36 Mayweather had MORE than earned it… He could die now and he’s first ballot HOF and ATG….

Posted May 18, 2013 6:15 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather already challenged the scales that’s why he’s a 5 division Champion, after Alvaez you will be delivering the same speech about Martinez and GGG it’s OLD hat Mayweathers topped out at WW and if he fights there till HW retires all the best to him… Durand irrelevant to Floyd’s career, I’d he beat Canelo are you going to rate him above Duran???

Posted May 18, 2013 2:03 am 


PEEJ

Floyd isn’t Duran.

Posted May 18, 2013 1:53 am 


hecdog

Roberto Duran, one , if not the greatest fighter of all time fought a monster in Iran Barkley and took his title. Duran was 5′ 7″ tall and had the frame of a lightweight. He didn’t complain or ask about the weight. REAL champions put themselves to the test against bigger guys. Duran almost beat Marvelous Marvin Hagler. And Mayweather i complaining against Canelo Alvarez, the kid that hasn’t done much beide barely beating Trout. Please, Mayweather needs to man up and stop being so damn cared of every fighter and always looking for an advantage. Canelo doen’t need Mayweather for anything. He’s the supposed next great fighter from Mexico, and he has a huge following, and it’ going to grow. He has no real experience, but is calling out Floyd, and Floyd is already running. Canelo still has to fight and beat Golovkin, Lara and others, which I don’t think he can. And Floyd can probably beat canelo right now with his hit, hold and run style, but if he waits too long, he will get beat. Floyd has no excuses to fight at 154. He has so much more experience against great older fighters a well as smaller fighters, and he’s still scared of a red headed kid? He should be ashamed of himself. Duran,Leonard, Pacquiao, Benitez, Hagler. These guys are true champions that never ducked anyone. Floyd, forget the money for once because you already have enough so don’t use that excuse. For once in your life, take on the challenge of a younger, bigger stronger inexperienced fighter.

Posted May 18, 2013 1:26 am 


SREDMOND

Fighters get moments like Mayweather against ODH, PAC against ODH and Hops against ODH where in order to go to the next level they will have to come out of their comfort zone… Canelo just fought Trout in Texas which was favorable under that tragic open scoring.. He’s been fighting guys who are not and never have been players at 154…. Now it’s time to man up and take a shot at immortality and a career best payday… How bad does he want it? PAC jumped two weight classes and against the odds laid waste to ODH… Can Canelo make it happen? Floyd does NOT need him…

Posted May 18, 2013 1:05 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather has been a Champ at 147 and fought WAY more bouts at the weight… His brief excursions at 154 don’t stamp him as a career JR Middle who has to fight the remainder of his career there anymore than Roy Jones had to campaign at HW…. Floyd’s earned the right to close out his career in the manner he see’s fit and if that’s not at 154 too bad for Canelo!! Where was Canelo 10 years ago when FMJ was paying his dues?? Oooooh Canelo was 12 years old and thus Floyd’s his Daddy and does not have to spot the kid 22 pounds at age 36… Alvarez is gotta concede Floyd’s NEVER made the limit of 154 he even came in under limit at WW 146… My crystal ball tells me Canelos gonna take a once in a lifetime shot to beat an ATG, or never develop PPV clout …

Posted May 18, 2013 12:58 am 


PEEJ

That’s why he fights in spurts. That is also why I thought Trout edged him out

Posted May 18, 2013 12:14 am 


murderman

Im still tripping how this guy gains 30 lbs over night n still fights effectively. U would think he would be slow and or run out of gas!

Posted May 18, 2013 12:08 am 


PEEJ

Canelo was the one that called Floyd out. And who cares about the title Floyd has. Canelo is the Champion at 154 so Floyd’s belt really means nothing. And it’s funny that the bigger guy calls out the smaller guy.

Posted May 18, 2013 12:02 am 


PEEJ

Actually Canelo called out Floyd. So you are wrong in that aspect. And Floyd will probably give the title up anyways just like he did after he beat Oscar. And really it does not matter if he defends the title, the real Champion at 154 is Canelo. The belts don’t even matter anymore unless you aren’t making good money. And Canelo is making excellent money

Posted May 18, 2013 12:00 am 


sthomas

What’s with everyone encouraging Floyd to not defend his 154 title against another 154 titleist? Instead he calls out Canelo to fight at 147 and so called boxing fans defend this Diva behavior? Can anyone imagine a concurrent cruiserweight & heavyweight champ call out another heavyweight champ to meet him down at cruiserweight for that title? Would he be praised or ridiculed for such behavior? Come on Floyd, take on Canelo at 154 weigh-in, no rehydration clause and get it on. I still avor you to win

Posted May 17, 2013 11:57 pm 


PEEJ

Actually the VP of Showtime already said they counted a million. And Ive never like Dan so don’t put me in that category. He sucks. So once again I will go with the VP from Showtime. He has no reason to skew the numbers.

Posted May 17, 2013 11:42 pm 


deven

See you guys praise Dan rafael when he substantiates your claim but denounce him when doesn’t . I trust Dan rafael. Sho rep said he believes when they count the smaller cable stations the number will be above 1 million but he did give a number. He has to keep hope alive otherwise the six fight deal is on shaky ground to start and they will lose money. Wait until he gives a final number.

Posted May 17, 2013 11:34 pm 


PEEJ

Dan Rafael sucks and showtimes VP already said it did over a million. Sorry but Ill go with what Showtime says. Dan Rafael is a top rank troll

Posted May 17, 2013 10:55 pm 


deven

Peej, Dan Rafael stands by his statement that the ppv for fight were under 1 million. His sources say the fight only did about 870,000.

Posted May 17, 2013 10:19 pm 


PEEJ

Canelo is a good fighter and he is the 154 pound champ. Can’t take that away from him. But the fact is he just much heavier than Floyd. That is all that is.

Posted May 17, 2013 10:03 pm 


PEEJ

Yes putting on 20lbs does make a difference. That is why there are weight classes. If it didn’t then the weight classes would be 20lbs apart instaed of 7 or so.

Posted May 17, 2013 10:01 pm 


mr peep

why so much hate on canelo?

Posted May 17, 2013 9:53 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Pubic enemy, I mean pubic hair. Said. “Floyds not gonna fall for it like trout”….LOL. pubes don’t know boxing clearly. Hey pube. Canelo and trout entered the ring at EXACTLY the same weight. 171 or 172. And its true if u make weight on weigh in u are that weight. Its true if canelo and floyd fought it would be two 154 pound champs fihting eachother. Do you think the 15 pounds of water all he sudden makes canelo hercules? Lol ur dense dude

Posted May 17, 2013 9:41 pm 


Public Enemy

Sorry Tumbo – but it does appear that the entire Boxing world has agreed with me and my observation that Canelo is cheating with his unbelievable Weight gain trick… From Floyd to everyone at this site is totally focused on Canelos 172+lb Weight gain come fight night… Floyd is not going to fall for it like Trout did… If Canelo wants to make big Money off of Floyds fame he needs to go to Floyds weight division… otherwise Cinnabum needs to move on and fight his Mandatory Cuban Lara who he has been avoiding for almost 2 years…

Posted May 17, 2013 9:30 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Floyd’s fight did over a million PPV buys

Posted May 17, 2013 9:17 pm 


hecdog

Mayweather loves to prey on Mexico’s celebration days and fight a Mexican or Latino because those are the best fight fans in the world, and they will pay anything to support their fighters. De La Hoya, Guerrero, Cotto, Ortiz. I can’t stand the guy, but his management team knows what they’re doing. I wonder what date Floyd will pick if he fights Canelo? Hmmmmm. September? Of course, I will give him that. He and his team know how to make money. I still can’t stand the guy.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:53 pm 


te tumbo

with 7 losses including a KO loss to Angulo and his most recent one v. Love, Rosado is NObody’s “mandatory”. he’s not even a contender. let him rematch Angulo or at least defeat Quintana or the glorified gatekeeper Cotto. THAT’s the competitive bracket that Rosado and all of PR boxing is in. levelS below the likes of Canelo and Mayweather and Trout.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:49 pm 


te tumbo

making weight is what counts. it’s the ONLY thing that counts. the issue of fighters rehydrating was determined to be less dangerous than dehydrating for a same-day weigh-in. this means that as long as both fighters make weight, they are considered to be competing in the same weight-class, Period. those of you defending Floyd on the basis of a size difference only sound shrill and ignorant (has Enema’s douche finally exploded and contaminated this entire website?). otherwise, feel free to cite a reasonable rehydration clause or simply concede that Floyd’s a keen Mfr who knows how to negotiate. particularly after Canelo abandoned Mayweather’s PPV bout to successfully headline his own title bout, which conceivably cost Floyd 500K extra buys for a PPV bout that will be lucky to claim 800K. from a businessman’s point of view, Alvarez owes Floyd and Mayweather knows it. i don’t doubt that Canelo is ready to make any reasonable concession that Floyd asks for to make this bout happen. ultimately, Canelo craves Floyd’s prestige and “if it makes dollars, it makes sense” for Mayweather. you won’t be hearing Floyd excessively pissin and moanin over a size disadvantage.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:31 pm 


Public Enemy

Canelos rush to fight Mayweather is all due to the fact that he knows damn well he cannot make it past all his Mandatories like Cuban Lara, Quinlin and Rosado without getting seriously fk’d up… So he’s trying to rush the fight with Mayweather because he knows it’s a Huge Money fight but he’ll still get his ASS kicked… but the Money will make it all worth it…

Posted May 17, 2013 6:28 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd will fight Canelo just not next. He has 5 fights with Showtime and if he already does the blockbuster fight then what is next? He will probably fight him next year at the end of the year and some how get it all built up. But it is a shame people saying he is scared of Canelo when I doubt that is true and Canelo is just so much bigger than Floyd. Floyd haters really want to see Floyd lose. If he where to beat Canelo there would be another excuse and then folks would say how come he doesn’t go to 160.

Posted May 17, 2013 6:23 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

You same the same thing over and over. Again money is not boxing. The heavyweight champs can beat everyone beneath them and around them so again they are the baddest men on earth. Floyds legacy is that of a serial ducker who failed in serial fashion over and over to make the best available fights come to fruition. And then fake retired when his division was the hottest it would ever be to let thosefighters fight it out. A guy who noone can clearly point to his best opponent. The klitschko never ducked anyone or fake retired to let their hot division sort it out. Everybody knows the story with mayweather. His zero is not impressive because he didn’t fight the best fights available. He fought the washed up post retired delahoyas and moselys. Washed up gattis, and cottos, never was good ortiz, guerreros and baldomirs. P4p is irrelevant and the single most subjective ranking in boxing. In fact most people don’t even understand wat p4p is. Lol. P4p is not something you hear many pro analysts site because of this. U never heard steward reference it and I’ve heard him describe the whole p4p thing unfavorably. Mechant, rafael, roach I never hear them mention p4p. The only one I see saying it all the time are redmond and boxtradamus (what a combo). Actualy, boxtra is masquerading as correctamundo. Making money is not the definition of the sport of boxing to the boxing fan. In fact its irrelevant. Money has nothing to do with the fightersi watch unless its floyd. I would never pay to watch floyd fight. I’m not a fool to be conned outta money. We discussed the (oscar method) floyd is following and goldon boy is perpetuating. The multiple sanctioning bodies. The corrupt judging. It all probably stems from moneys influence on a shoty boxing system. One can clearly make a case its a detriment to the SPORT. The sport neds overhauled. We need to start with an additional ref sitting ring side watching replays and camera angles ENSURING proper calls are beingmade ESPECIALLY if the winner of the bout depends on the accuracy, integrity, and veracity of the call. THE GREAT ONE HAS SPOKEN

Posted May 17, 2013 6:11 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Everyone knows Floyd doesn’t want to fight Canelo. The 147 thing is just meant to disguise this. Ducker.

Posted May 17, 2013 6:05 pm 


Boxe0

Hype job. They not fighting.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:22 pm 


wutupdoe

As a Mayweather fan, IMO I think Floyd is leery of Canelo, but I think Pac will give him more problems.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:05 pm 


Moonshineman

I keep telling everyone. MAYWEATHER IS NOT GOING TO FIGHT CANELO. It’s too risky for MW. He will fight Khan or Alexander. He’s not fighting anyone that has a chance to knock him out. Trust me. MW has no Balz.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:11 pm 


Eleanore the Hag

If Fat Dan says it, it must be so.

Posted May 17, 2013 2:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad fights 4 LAME/terrible fighters in a row but Oscar who fought EVERYBODY around is the issue… Bears knows so little about boxing its funny…ODH has ONLY lost to HOF level fighters… Mayweather, Pacquiao, Hopkins, Trinidad (robbed) Moseley I and II (2nd robbed) But Oscar is the issue… The Klitschkos are NOT even facing World Class competition these days but ODH who fought in 6 divisions is the issue? Man please ODH, Mayweather and Pacquiao have carried the sport on their back while these lumbering HW’s who don’t even want to fight eachother come up with unsellable threats and go get knocked off by the Klits….

Posted May 17, 2013 2:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears NO ONE is impressed by your assertion that Wlad can beat up WW’s he would STILL be protecting his chin most likely if he did fight one… Thats why he is NOT P4P #1 in the World thats Floyd Mayweathers mantle… Besides we have seen Wlad destroyed by guys who were NOT even World Class fighters like the rancid Purrity and C level fighter Sanders… The BEST guy to knock out Wlad was Lamon Brewster WOW!! Buried in his prime by 3 underdogs, Floyd Mayweather has been in 21 World Title fights and fought 18 current or former World Champions… He has fought 5 or more HOF level boxers and NONE have laid waste to him in 2 rounds like Klits…. So if they best you can conjure is that Wlads a BEAST at beating 147 pound fighters you’re doing him a disservice… The title “Baddest Man on the Planet” was accorded Mike Tyson when he was on top Wlad is known as Dr Steelhammer… Especially when beating sparring partners and ex KO victims Pianeta and Thompson, washed up Cruisers like 40 year old Mormeck and scrubs like Wach who would lose a foot race with a 200 year old tortise and is NOT even a World Class fighter…. Again Wlads the best HW today but Floyd Mayweather is the Undisputed PPV King, P4P King and every other King that matters…How did Wlads last PPV do? OOOOOHHHHH it didn’t he was selling seats for hotdog money across Seas… Fair enough!

Posted May 17, 2013 2:14 pm 


Public Enemy

Plenty of Whites, Hispanics, Asians and Latinos root for Mayweather.. especially when he’s Kickin Mexican Culito..

Posted May 17, 2013 2:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Floyd Mayweather fights generate MORE revenue than damn near the entire sport as a collective when you strip out Manny Pacquiaos bouts and a few notables… PPV revenue alone for the Cotto fight was 95 million thats WAY more than the Klits where it is in print that Hrunov who sponsored his prospective bout against Povetkin is going to LOSE money on the deal…. Thats why the other purse bids were SOOOOOOO freaking low… AGAIN numbers don’t lie there is NOT another fighter on the planet that earns as much money from his craft and then when you factor in he ONLY fought 72 minutes to make 85 million… I hear the Rick Ross song “Im a BOSS” just ringing in my head… The Klits are nice guys but they are barely on the radar….They can’t give their fights against sparring partners and guys who are NOT even world level away over here… And they fight for relative short money in Germany Wlads best night is gonna be 17 mill…. Holy, Tyson, Lewis, Oscar, Mayweather and Pacquiao have made more than that for YEARS and he is the HW Champion…. Thats sad :(

Posted May 17, 2013 2:08 pm 


BEARS(boxings a garden son, DIG IT!)

!c’mon now, you know people should be able to glean when your masquerading as me. im surprised you resorted to crude and substanceless post. you must feel defeated. and thats ok. what would i be without my counterparts? without my antipodes? without my antithesis’s? or as ja rule put it. what would i be with out you? LOL!!!!! how about a quote from the movie the warriors………”CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!”

Posted May 17, 2013 1:45 pm 


BEARS(boxings a garden son, DIG IT!)

dude dont masquerade as me

Posted May 17, 2013 1:43 pm 


BEARS(boxings a garden son, DIG IT!)

@c’mon now, you know people should be able to glean when your masquerading as me. im surprised you resorted to your race stuff you dont usually do that. you must feel defeated. and thats ok. what would i be without my counterparts? without my antipodes? without my antithesis’s? or as ja rule put it. what would i be with out you? LOL!!!!! the groveling little addle brained haters and “the horde”. how about a quote from the movie the warriors………”CAN YOU DIG IT!!!!!”

Posted May 17, 2013 1:43 pm 


BEARS(the great one)

as i said im a fan of boxing. you know the sport. i could care less how much may makes. he has made enough to live well for the rest of his life years ago. unless he has no intelligence and mis-manages his finances. and any individual who does that be it a boxer or not is just addlebrained. sure i wanna see people turn a dollar but not to the detriment of the sport of boxing. and really its the responsibility of the fan to be cognizant of this and speak up and speak out about it

Posted May 17, 2013 1:20 pm 


BEARS(the great one)

i think the oscar model is a detriment to the sport. i wish we had one title one sanctioning body. we would get the fights and the super fights we want to see and we would get them faster.

Posted May 17, 2013 1:19 pm 


BEARS(the great one)

if you ask me the “oscar model” contributes to those problems. all the sanctioning bodies as well its totally and utterly ridiculus. as i said im a fan of boxing. you know the sport. i could care less how much may makes. he has made enough to live well for the rest of his life years ago. unless he has no intelligence and mis-manages his finances. and any individual who does that be it a boxer or not is just addlebrained. sure i wanna see people turn a dollar but not to the detriment of the sport of boxing. and really its the responsibility of the fan to be cognizant of this and speak up and speak out about it

Posted May 17, 2013 1:17 pm 


BEARS(the great one)

in fact a mixed martial arts model and one title and FORCING the fighters to fight and giving them little say could be potentially way better for the fans. you also have a lot less controversy in judging which must be because of the stakes multiple individual parties have in individual bouts. boxing is rife with problems. if you ask me the “oscar model” contributes to those problems. all the sanctioning bodies as well its totally and utterly ridiculus. as i said im a fan of boxing. you know the sport. i could care less how much may makes. he has made enough to live well for the rest of his life years ago. unless he has no intelligence and mis-manages his finances. and any individual who does that be it a boxer or not is just addlebrained. sure i wanna see people turn a dollar but not to the detriment of the sport of boxing. and really its the responsibility of the fan to be cognizant of this and speak up and speak out about it

Posted May 17, 2013 1:16 pm 


BEARS

in fact an mma model and one title and FORCING the fighters to fight and giving them little say could be potentially way better for the fans. you also have a lot less controversy in judging which must be because of the stakes multiple individual parties have in individual bouts.

Posted May 17, 2013 1:15 pm 


BEARS

in fact an mma model and one title and FORCING the fighters to fight and giving them little say could be potentially way better for the fans. you also have a lot less controversy in judging which must be because of the stakes multiple individual parties have in individual bouts. boxing is rife with problems. if you ask me the “oscar model” contributes to those problems. all the sanctioning bodies as well its totally and utterly ridiculus. as i said im a fan of boxing. you know the sport. i could care less how much mayweatherhe makes. he has made enough to live well for the rest of his life years ago. unless he has no intelligence and mis-manages his finances. and any individual who does that be it a boxer or not is just a dummy. sure i wanna see people turn a dollar but not to the detriment of the sport of boxing. and really its the responsibility of the fan to be cognizant of this and speak up and speak out about it

Posted May 17, 2013 1:15 pm 


BEARS

in fact a u f c type model and one title and FORCING the fighters to fight and giving them little say could be potentially way better for the fans. you also have a lot less controversy in judging which must be because of the stakes multiple individual parties have in individual bouts. boxing is rife with problems. if you ask me the “oscar model” contributes to those problems.

Posted May 17, 2013 1:14 pm 


BEARS

^oscar started this business style of boxing and thats when him and bernard did their thing and became business partners in the ring with a weak fight if you want to call it one. mayweather has continued a model layed out by oscar. its terrible for the fan.

Posted May 17, 2013 1:12 pm 


BEARS

boxing is rife with problems. if you ask me the “oscar model” contributes to those problems. all the sanctioning bodies as well its totally and utterly ridiculus. as i said im a fan of boxing. you know the sport. i could care less how much mayweatherhe makes. he has made enough to live well for the rest of his life years ago. unless he’s a dumb animal and mis-manages his finances. and any individual who does that be it a boxer or not is just a dummy. sure i wanna see people turn a dollar but not to the detriment of the sport of boxing. and really its the responsibility of the fan to be cognizant of this and speak up and speak out about it

Posted May 17, 2013 1:10 pm 


ChimiBurgers

Floyd, Cotto and Paqquiao are small Welter Weights.. compared to the Paul Williams, MargaCheato, Chavez Cheato jr. Canelo, Cintron etc…

Posted May 17, 2013 12:54 pm 


SREDMOND

The most powerful and Greatest Boxer operating today tells his foes what’s going to happen not vice versa… Just like Floyd had to abide by Oscars wishes when he had his turn… I’m sure FMJ would have rather fought at 147 but Oscar was the boss so he moved up… I’m sure a huge MW like Hopkins would have rather NOT dropped to 157 to fight ODH but he did and got his payday and victory… Floyd and Hops had accomplished about 50x more than Canelo who has ONLY beat one World Class fighter in his division… But both Hops and Floyd still succeeded when it was time to sacrifice… Canelos still gonna outweigh Floyd by plenty when he starts sucking down water and electrolytes, he will still be 14 years younger… If he’s the better man he will take advantage if not he will take an embarrassing beating that 43 fighters before him took… The kids bow down to Floyd or build his legacy the hard way against guys at 154 and 160….

Posted May 17, 2013 12:45 pm 


BEARS

money is the metric? are you saying that ggg, ward, the country of mexico, canelo, all the eastern block fighters and countries should just stop boxing? what a nutsack. floyd is not even 5% of boxing let alone 100% like you claim. “boxing is paralyzed without floyd mayweather”-sredmond quote. the funniest thing i have read in ages on east side. just think of the current countless fighters we all love and follow in all weight classes. now we will show that floyd represents less than 5%.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:44 pm 


Pinhead

We could be now talking about one of the greatest sportsman who has ever lived. The real boxing fan knows exactly what FMJ is about, the bloodthirsty spectator does not, this man owes nobody nothing and is the champ in his weight class, he is not the challenger and doesn’t need to do s**t he doesnt want to. He is pure class and its just a shame he doesn’t get the plaudits that he so he should. If won his bouts by knockout then people would talk differently, but because he does everything to his advantage as he should people seem to get a bit unreasonable, will pay all day long to watch this man do his thing, the best ever!!!!

Posted May 17, 2013 12:42 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Sredmond says “boxing is paralyzed without floyd” this is definitive delusion. I have read thousands of posts over the last few weeks and this is the finniest and most ridiculus. This is basically saying floyd is boxing. WOW. Beyond garbage post there. This guy thinks floyd vs ortiz, cotto, and gueerero is the entirety of boxing. Lol. Omg. Canelo vs trout was more entertaining than those 3 bouts COMBINED times 10. Youhave the klitschkos, fury, haye, pulev, jennings, wilder, stiverne etc lighting it up at heavy. Froch dawson ward canelo trout broner donaire rigo pac, jmm, the mini version of the ultra mean beast vitaly klitschko in ggg! I mean there is so many awesme matches and countless more fighters we all love. Floyd doesn’t represent even 5% of boxing or the sport. Let alone 100. Lol

Posted May 17, 2013 12:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Moneys a metric because it’s an indicator of demand you idiot… People don’t passively fork over their dollars.. The HW division is DEAD Floyd and Wlad were fighting around the same time and NO ONE cared about Klits fighting one of his sparring partners, Amir Khan generates more buzz and he’s not the Champ on anything… HW used to be the glamour division as evidenced by the economic success and crazy popularity of past Champs who did mega million PPV’s…. NOW the glamour division is WHEREVER AND WHENEVER Floyd Mayweather Jr is fighting that means 140, 147, 154, or 175…..Bears has been creaming himself that “Floyd vs Canelo must be made” direct quote, this dude is sweating like a crackhead to see boxings best fight again… Clearly this nut is a closet Floyd fan who called Mayweather “a great boxer, with a very unique style”…. No one cares about Wlad dusting his 3rd or 4th TERRIBLE opponent in a row… Sports Illustrated “Highest Paid Athlete” Floyd
Mayweather Jr…

Posted May 17, 2013 12:36 pm 


sthomas

As a businessperson myself, I admire/respect how Floyd is handling his career. I do the same. I make the most I can with the least exposure to downfall………… However, I’m a boxing FAN. I’ve always been a fan in awe, because boxers are stepping up big time to do something I have never mustered up the stones to participate in other than backyard bouts with friends. . The risk taking and monumental challenges along the career paths that so many of the greats from the past have demonstrated have always been the pinnical of what makes boxing the ultimate 1 on 1 sport. Unfortunately with Floyd, monumental challenges have not beem part of his plan for the last several years. Floyd’s career model, though admirable from a business point, is very disappointing as a boxing fan.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:30 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

#Sredmond says “boxing as a sport is paralyzed without floyd” bahahahahahahaha that has to be the funiest and most ridiculus post I have seen in months and I’ve read thousands. Oh the delusions of the rabid fraud duckfeather sack gargling horde know no bounds! This statement ammounts to saying the fraud/con is boxing. Sredmonds a joke. Garbage. Canelos show against trout was about 10 times better than fraud vs ortiz, cotto, and guerrero times 10. AND THIS IS JUST CANELO! You got the klitschkos at heavyweights lighting it up and knocking cats out like fury jenkins stiverne wilder pulev haye and the list goes on. U got froch gettn nasty. I like chad dawson. Ward gets down. GGG IS THE CURRENT BOXNG BEAST. A little version of the mean monster that is the GOAT vitaly klitschko. Ya got broner comin and squeezing floyd on the 147 front and u got canelo, trout, martinez, and even ggg on the 154. Its over for floyd too bad he wasn’t younger he could do another FAKE RETIREMENT AND AGAIN LET THE FIGHTERS SORT IT OUT AND DAMAGE EACHOTHER. Dudes a biatch and all us fans know it. Floyd has ALWAYS FAILED to make the best fights available happen. He has always ducked. Not pacman and that’s the biggest dif b/w the two. Pacs fighting trilogies with badasses named erik and marco.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:30 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

!Sredmond says “boxing as a sport is paralyzed without floyd” bahahahahahahaha that has to be the funiest and most ridiculus post I have seen in months and I’ve read thousands. Oh the delusions of the rabid fraud duckfeather nut gargling horde know no bounds! This statement ammounts to saying the fraud/con is boxing. Sredmonds a joke. What an utter idiot. Canelos show against trout was about 10 times better than fraud vs ortiz, cotto, and guerrero times 10. AND THIS IS JUST CANELO!

Posted May 17, 2013 12:28 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

The king is the heavyweight champ. He is the baddest man in the world. Boxing is a sport. Money is not boxing. Its not a metric of any kind. Everyone knows the heavyweight champs are the kings. That’s theklitschkos. You know. White guys. If floyds the king have him beat a klitschko. Bahahahahahah!

Posted May 17, 2013 12:11 pm 


Tomato Can

Mayweather will vacate the 154 pound title, just like most fighters end up doing (when their able to make 147 easier than 154). Some fans will cry about it, but just like always, their cry’s will fall on deaf ears.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:10 pm 


Blaze

And its incorrect to say that Canelo comes in the size of LHWs. LHW fighters don’t come in to the ring on fight night at 172lbs, they usually come in to the fight at 190-195lbs. Most don’t even weigh in as low as 172lbs at the official weigh in.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:10 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Blaze- my thoughts exactly. The rabid floyd duckfeather nut garglers make special exceptons and want to create more ideal favoritism and conditions for floyd by imposing some special rule like rehydration limits, same day weigh ins and all kindsof garbage.floyd and canelo are both champs at 154. Obviously they should fight in the same way canelo and trout did or fraud duckfeather needs to pull a bowe and throw his title in the garbage cause the truth is he can’t “hang” at 154. I guess he’s not as good as some of the horde thought.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:08 pm 


Blaze

This isn’t about who called who out, or who’s a more proven fighter. This is about who is the jrMW champ. Right now, Floyd is the WBC Diamond champ and Canelo is the WBA champ. They should be fighting at the weight they both are champs which is 154lbs. Canelo has no business fighting at 147lbs because he can’t make weight. That’s why he’s not a WW champ. If Floyd feels like 154lb division fighters are too big for him, then he needs to hand over the jrMW title and ONLY claim the WW title he holds. As long as he’s a jrMW champ, you can’t say Canelo is asking him to come up in weight. How is asking the jrMW Diamond champ to fight at 154lbs asking too much? lol!

Posted May 17, 2013 12:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Te Tumbo if you’re gonna call Cotto and the rest Jr Welters then you have to acknowledge that Mayweather is NOT native to 147, he began at 130 and he’s not a murderous puncher… Canelo putting the world on notice that he’s carrying 172 to the ring is gonna create debate when the guy he’s facing is one of the SMALLEST WW’s by body mass operating today… Nothing wrong with quality fighters moving up but FMJ is 36 and the notion he should just casually spot a 22 year old 22 pounds fight night is something people would ONLY ask of him… Just like they anger because he’s not gonna stand and trade recklessly with Robert Guerrero… Why should he? He’s faster, smarter and does not need to take 2 to give one he can give 4 and take HALF of one….

Posted May 17, 2013 11:45 am 


Richard Bulger

Canelo should ignore The Queen and go on own way in his Championship Fights. Let The Queen come to him that waits. Ignore Money and all his baggage. Make your own money without Queen Floyd. And by the way,
………………….WLADIMIR IS THE KING OF BOXING…………………………..

Posted May 17, 2013 11:43 am 


SREDMOND

Wlad Klitschko is the dominant HW of this era and since learning that getting KOed is a career killer he has been consistent.. That said whomever said “He is the King of boxing” is delusional… Floyd Mayweather is 15x more important to the sport than Wlad who enjoys very little US noteriety… You guys will counter “he fills stadiums in Germany” that’s cool but when you are charging small change it is what it is… Assuming he and Povetkin Fight Wlads about to get 75% of his biggest purse over 17 mill (his share) certainly nothing to sneeze at but FMJ would not get out of bed for that… And the bid was an abberation WAY higher than the others which were single digit millions…. Floyd Mayweather is the highest paid athlete on a planet of 7 Billion people it’s 1000% clear who the biggest and most important name in boxing is today…

Posted May 17, 2013 11:39 am 


Richard Bulger

……………………….At this time Wlad is the King of Boxing.

Posted May 17, 2013 11:28 am 


smatt

Why isn’t anyone mentioning Ward? He’s #2 P4P and closer in weight to Canelo than FMJ. I mean, if we’re gonna feed Alverez to the wolves….

Posted May 17, 2013 11:11 am 


wutupdoe

People will do anything to see May lose. That’s why he will remain the PPV king because everyone wants to see that L.

Posted May 17, 2013 10:38 am 


CJ Lee

There is no way on earth that Money May should fight Canelo unless its at a 147-150 catch-weight. Other than that, Canelo needs to fight guys his own size like Sergio Martinez or Julio Cesar Chavez…

Posted May 17, 2013 10:30 am 


JoeKidd

Schaeffer just keeping the conversation in the media guys. Keep talking and soon this fight will grow to mythical status. Meanwhile, what chance in hell does Canelo have of catching Floyd in the ring? He caught Trout only because Trout stopped to trade!

Posted May 17, 2013 10:25 am 


Secret

Even if Floyd was turned down by those 3, it still does not change the fact that Floyd fought DLH, Mosely and Cotto when they were past their prime, that much is true. So those wins can be taken with a grain of salt. It would have been something to write home about if he beat them when they were in their prime.
By the way, are guerrero and ortiz on target to become hall of famers or at least….great? of course not! But of course, these aren’t the only two relatively unknowns of their level floyd has had the audacity to fight, which begs the question, how does fighting these types of fight make floyd great? Simple answer, it does not. So that some don’t fall off track, no one on any message board has ever stated floyd sucks as a fighter because that simply is NOT true nor accurate however, the level of oppostion regardless if the opposition held a belt mean nothing. the belt doesnt make a champion much the same way floyd was stil floyd without any straps. Will be interesting to see who floyds next 5 opponents will be. Fighting anyone who has no legitimate chance of winning and no possibility of making the fight highly competitive or worse, where the odds of Floyd winning are -750 are a complete waste of time for floyd and a waste of money for the fans. Floyd, what have you done for fans lately besides fight unknowns and has beens?

Posted May 17, 2013 10:23 am 


ChimiBurgers

bottom line is Mayweather doesn’t give a fk about Canelo Alvaraez.. Floyd is making Millions and will retire undefeated within another 2 years a Super Wealthy man and Canelo plays no role in his plans.. If Canelo is calling out Floyd and wants a huge Payday thanks to Floyd then Canelo needs to go to Floyds Weight Class 147.. if not then Canelo needs to move the fk on and take on the Mandatories he’s been avoiding for over almost 2 years.. Like Cuban Lara, Quinlin, Rosado… or step up and take on Quinlin, GGG or Andrew Ward.. guys his true size…

Posted May 17, 2013 10:19 am 


the public

If you want a payday with the richest athlete in the world then you will make concessions. Floyd don’t give a f%^& what you think about legacy. He has made his own way and been very successful at it. His ex wife put it best in Showtime All Access, “Floyd never puts himself in a position to lose”. It is what it is. If you don’t want the payday then somebody else does.

Posted May 17, 2013 10:11 am 


CJ

Because a prime Oscer would not have wanted too. Just like a prime Mosely didn’t want no part of Mayweather.

A lot of revisionary history going on here. lol.

Posted May 17, 2013 10:00 am 


Boxer

Floyd wouldn’t never never never fought against Oscar in his prime!

Posted May 17, 2013 9:56 am 


Boxer

Yo Sergio Martinez fought Chavez so big that he didn’t want to step on the scale the night of the fight I’m guessing he was weighing around 185 190 and gave him a boxing lesson, my gosh stop making excuses for these guys their the best right!, c’mon Floyd few years back we wanted may vs margarito didn’t happen, Floyd vs Martinez didn’t happen, Floyd vs pacman didn’t happen and now Canelo, listen I’m a mayweather fan he can probly beat these guys but he picks his opponents to carefully and that’s fact

Posted May 17, 2013 9:54 am 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Good posts curtley.

Posted May 17, 2013 9:51 am 


CJ

Mayweather makes at least $40,000,000/fight! The closest two him is Pac Roid who they “say” makes $20,000,000 plus/fight, but in reality the truth is that he has a gurantee of $6,000,000 where as Mayweather has a gurantee of $32,000,000.

I don’t claim to be a math expert, but those numbers don’t add up. lol

Posted May 17, 2013 9:43 am 


SREDMOND

Boxing as a sport is paralyzed without Floyd Mayeather EVERY FIGHTER is calling him out, Canelos no different absent the reality that this would be a big event… We had the MW King Calling out Floyd so what’s new? This will continue till he retires or time helps him lose… But Floyds paid his dues and he’s done letting anyone dictate to him…If Canelo wants the shot it’s gonna be on Mayweathers terms and that’s 100% the way it should be…

Posted May 17, 2013 9:42 am 


CJ

I bet those fighters would KILL to be in Mayweather’s shoes right now!

Posted May 17, 2013 9:41 am 


CJ

And the only place that Mayweather loses is on the internet to fightes in the 80’s who had to fight when told beause there promoter controlled everything.

But because they were slaves and had to do what they were told, now they are gladiators and warriors. lol.

Posted May 17, 2013 9:41 am 


CJ

Exactly. When Mayweather wanted the crown, he had to bow down to Delahoya in everyway. He took like 10-20% of the pot and had to fight at 154.

But now that he is wears the crown, hes supposed to give everyone a break? WTF/SMH!/LOL!

Posted May 17, 2013 9:39 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd Mayweathers no idiot, Hagler fought his entire career in one division and is considered an ATG the biggest names on his resume were guys coming up in weight Duran and Hearns… Marvin’s one of my favorite fighters but when did we see him at LHW or higher? He knew his best division and he dominated there..Mayweather already climbed the scales coming from 130 to 2 forays at 154…. Floyd’s not some massive puncher he has relied in perfect boxing skills and speed… He last weighed in at 146 pounds, this fighter is 36 and physically he’s topped out…. If a guy does NOT respesct his Greatness then how can getting a wide UD over Canelo change that? Floyd’s not a fool 22 pounds is a lot in boxing and if HE was the in with that advantage guys would flip out..Floyd would be a fool to try an appease guys who don’t even respect him as a boxer and NEVER will… Canelos gotta do as he’s told or actually fight solid 154 and 160 pounders…

Posted May 17, 2013 9:21 am 


Zoo

Curtly hates Floyd. Unless he fights Canelo the rest of career apparently doesn’t matter.

Posted May 17, 2013 9:21 am 


Zoo

I think the main thing people are overlooking is the fact that Floyd isn’t the one calling these other fighters out. It’s the other way around. Last time he did call a fighter out it was De La Hoya and Floyd conceded to all of De La Hoya’s demands. So why are the standards different for Floyd? I will tell you why. People hate him and want to see him lose. Period.

Posted May 17, 2013 9:18 am 


Todd Spengo

Dang I’d really like to see a blockbuster fight! C’mon girls lets get these two in the ring!

Posted May 17, 2013 9:16 am 


SREDMOND

So basically Curtley is saying all fighters who don’t EXACTLY follow Duran’s path are NOT Great?? How many divisions wa Duran a Champion in?? Do
Basically by Curtleys logic we can say all boxers who have NOT fought successfully in 5 weight classes like Mayweather are unworthy of mention? This would include Hagler who was a MW, Alexis Arguello, Aaron Pryor, Marquez, Monzon, and a slew of other well respected boxers… Who cares if a declining Duran fought Barkley? His best days were at LW and Leonard was his signature win at 147…Mayweathers career is his own and being the only undefeated 5 weight Champ is simply AMAZING…

Posted May 17, 2013 9:13 am 


Zoo

CaneloWeighs172+lbs knows what he’s talking about, and Dan Rafael keeps it 100.

Posted May 17, 2013 9:13 am 


CaneloWeighs172+lbs

What Canelo doesn’t realize is that 1. He’s still a nobody in Boxing.. only really known to his Mexican Fans… 2. Floyd is incredibly Wealthy and has made more money in one year than all Mexican fighters combined over the past decade. 3. It’s more important to Floyd to retire unbeaten then to take a chance with a cheater who balloons up in weight like Canelo coming into his fights as a light Heavy weighing well over 172+lbs.. 4. Floyd can easily make his next 5 fights and never even look at Canelo and still make a few more hundred Million 5. Canelo will have a tough task taking on the guys his true size and weight like Quinlin, Rosado, Martinez, Love, GGG…

Posted May 17, 2013 8:17 am 


CaneloWeighs172+lbs

Saywhat? – Nobody is criticizing Canelo for beinga 154lb fighter, they’re criticizing the fact he comes into his 154lb fights weighing well over 172+lbs.. practially a light Heavyweight…. not fair to his opponents…

Posted May 17, 2013 8:12 am 


curtley

If we look at a fighter like Duran, he was about the same size as FMJ or even smaller yet he had the stones to fight and beat Barkley who is much bigger than Canelo and even to fight Hagler. Can you imagine FMJ taking on these fighters? This is what separates the great like Floyd from the all time greats like Roberto

Posted May 17, 2013 7:58 am 


curtley

Duran, LW and roughly the same size as Floyd beat Barkley who was much bigger than Canelo and pushed Hagler who most see as the greatest ever at MW pretty hard. This is why for me Floyd is great but not an all time great like Duran as he never wants to take a fight where he may be perceived as an underdog.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:55 am 


curtley

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Posted May 17, 2013 7:53 am 


SayWhat?

Can’t believe people are criticising Canelo for being a big 154 pounder, it’s not his fault. Mayweather was happy to come in weighing much more than Marquez, and Mayweather weighed in the day before the fight at 146, fight night would’ve been more like 151. Mayweather would NEVER pick a fight where there’s an ounce of risk he could lose. I respect Mayweather’s excellence, but he should be a real champion and jump out of his comfort zone once in a while. Look at the super middle weight division. All the best of the best fighting each other, Mayweather could learn a thing or 2 from people like Froch, Ward and Kessler!

Posted May 17, 2013 7:50 am 


curtley

Floyd outweighed Marquez by a considerable margin and didn’t even bother to try and make weight so really cheated in what for me will always be a tainted win. The truly great Roberto Duran was a lightweight and in reality about the same size as Floyd but beat Barkley who is much bigger than Canelo its this that separates the great fighters which Floyd is, from the all time great fighters like Duran. Also remember Duran pushed Hagler who is regarded as the best if not one of the best middleweights of all time pretty damn hard.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:48 am 


mpumzi

this is the same guy who said floyd flopped on PPV

Posted May 17, 2013 7:41 am 


cmkb

146 was Mayweather’s ‘weigh-in’ weight not the night of the fight. He typically doesn’t even allow fight night weigh-ins.

Mayweather and Canelo both weighed in at 146 and 153.5 respectively for their fights. I doubt at this point we’ll ever know Mayweather’s fight night weights but certainly he won’t be ballooning as much as Canelo.

Mayweather was fine to drag Marquez up to welterweight to get an advantage and drain Canelo to welterweight to get an advantage but those are the perks of being the king. So make the fight or move on.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:35 am 


Public Enemy

Chavez Jr. walks around at 182+lbs not 170lbs… he also goes into his 160lb fights weighing 180+lbs like he did vs Sergio Martinez.. Canelo and Chavez Jr are both cheaters… no way either of them would fight guys their true size and weights…

Posted May 17, 2013 6:44 am 


Dan D

Canelo is unproven. I want to see Mayweather out box him to silence the critics but I also believe that Floyd shouldn’t be put at an unfair advantage just so the fans can see a competitive fight. Alvarez is too big to sit comfortably at 154, hence the stamina issues. If they had a clause of 154 on fight night, weigh in on the day then I guess that might work?

Posted May 17, 2013 6:43 am 


Anonymous

If Canelo wants it he’s to come to floyds table not the other way around,floyd would box Canelos ears off,Canelo wants the publicity but not the punishment,he should have took it as read if I want floyds straps he’d need to shrink down and get em,what ever floyd dose he comes out the bad guy,if he goes up Canelo waz too young if Canelo comes down he would have been drained,come down and put up or stay up and shut up Canelo.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:44 am 


Pete R.

It is amusing that Mayweather wants it at 147. However, he did not mind going to 154 when sure that he could win. Lets be real, its ok to use the weight card on bigger younger guys that could absorb all he has and threatening to know that the guy might have more left in the gas tank than he does in later rounds. Although Ruiz was not a great heavyweight champion, I give cudos to Jones for moving up to HW and defeating him. Not that it is a fair comparison, it is not, only to show that there are other factors when choices are made to go up or down in divisions depending on what can be gained or lost. Mayweather has nothing to gain by fighting Alvarez but there is much that might be lost if the punches he throws do not have the same effect on the bigger younger man.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:33 am 


bronersboner.

alvarez is nothing more than a maufactured robot who amassed a record of 40 plus fights fighting stiffs and guys smaller than tom thumb.i seen they came forward first in the race to catch the last 4 spots but he needs a reality check and to make the weight the champ wants if he wants to be part of the final 4.pacman will get the last spot so that only leaves 3 spots.dont think floyd is gonna lose sleep over fighting a light heavyweight.theres bradley,khan,garcia,lopez etc who have earned there stripes at their natural weight and fought top opposiition.

Posted May 17, 2013 3:34 am 


bronersboner.

fight ggg alvarez.instead of acting like a thief.alvarez is the most over rated fighter ive ever seen.the most manufactured fighter ever to come out of mexico

Posted May 17, 2013 3:25 am 


bronersboner.

alvarez needs to fight ggg.i dont blame floyd for fighting at his own weight.hes a blown up lightweight in reality himself.only moved up to test himself but there is a limit and a reason for the weight classes.shows how many bums alvarez has fought to amass a fight record of 40 plus.alvarez has only beaten second tier welterweights like matthew hatton and his last 4 opponants.let him fight ggg if they have the balls.scheaffer and that other fairy make my piss boil.

Posted May 17, 2013 3:20 am 


HammerMan

When you call out a guy u have to fight the fight either in his weight class or damn near it. either 147 or 149. those are Canelo’s options. if not fight someone else

Posted May 17, 2013 3:00 am 


SREDMOND

No matter what happens Floyd’s detractors are gonna be unhappy such is the nature of the beast… When Floyd makes Canelo look flatfooted and sub par it will be interesting to see who’s still behind Alvarez then….??

Posted May 17, 2013 2:58 am 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

why don’t the ugly little twerp alvarez fight TRIPLE GGG at 154? no weight issues!

Posted May 17, 2013 2:20 am 


go get some

10kg difference on fight night against a 36 year old sounds a bit one sided I bet he wont lose 3kg to make it happen

Posted May 17, 2013 2:07 am 


Malachi

Raphael always take a shot at floyd whenever he gets the chance,he also hyped that gossip rumor about the guerrero fight not making over 1 million…yezzziir!!

Posted May 17, 2013 1:42 am 


fightfan247

Floyd aint fighting Canelo.. To big for Floyd, you have to be a LWW or former LW to fight Floyd or even a washed up WW… Floyd takes those no threat easy paydays.. Surprised pople havent bought into his antics yet.

Posted May 17, 2013 1:37 am 


The Prince

Like I said about Pacquiao and the drug testing… Canelo should call Floyd’s bluff and go down to 147 if he really wants the fight to happen. He talked all that mess about beating Floyd, now is his chance to prove it. If the fight doesn’t happen, it will be Canelo’s fault. Like with Pacquiao, Floyd made it clear what it would take to make the fight. And Floyd is the one in the drivers seat, being the undefeated number one P4P fighter and the biggest PPV draw for the past five or six fights.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:49 am 


PEEJ

What’s funny is that Floyd will probably fight Canelo just not next and then after people will make excuses saying the Canelo was too young and not ready for Floyd and that Floyd was picking on a young fighter. There are always excuses from haters.

Posted May 17, 2013 12:08 am 



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