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Posted May 19, 2013 5:28 am 


Haye is overrated

Holyfield Ruiz Chagaev and possibly Donald all beat Valuev clearly aswell. They gave Haye the win because he was bankable. He did only marginally better than an ancient Holyfield.

Posted May 19, 2013 5:14 am 


Haye is overrated

What’s the big deal about Haye squeaking past the WORST tite holder in the history of the goddam division. Just another joke like Primo Carnera. All of Valuev’s fights were FIXED. He lost to: Ruiz/Donald etc and most importantly Evander Holyfield beat him by a wider margin than Haye did just a couple of fights back”!!! People always airbrush that bit out. Holyfield danced around him potshotted and won a decision. If a prime Haye couldn’t do any better why are we praising him? Holyfield was ancient. Chagaev also beat Valuev. In my opinion Valuev should have had about 5 decision losses on his record before he fought Haye anyway. Just beause Haye was bankable they gave him the win. Haye struggled with Valuev, struggled with Ruiz blew away total non entities in (Barrett Harrison Bonin) and then didn’t exist against Wladimir. What’s so damn special about that? He never fought any of the divisions danger men and believe me HE NEVER WILL

Posted May 19, 2013 5:13 am 


Adrian

Maximus@ I agree with you when you say ” ..its about winning with the weapons u have at ur disposal”..but when it comes to haye vs valuev ,haye hardly used his arsenal and as a result he was lucky to get away with a md win,what if he didnt hurt valuev in the round 12? He probably would have lose a chance to get a title ,my point is he should have been more aggressive and not runn all night long because as if he would have been more active he would have probably even stop valuev! The fact if he fought purely against valuev and was lucky to get a decision!!!!!
And when it comes to your idea of having a superhaveyweight devision ,newsflash …we have a superhaveyweight it is 200 to unlimited , if you claim klitchko is to big and its big fair to be a champion as a haveyweight then you probably should deny jack Johnson as a haveyweight champion because he fought midgets compare to him …just because guys like haye and adamek and Holyfield like to try to become a champion at haveyweight we shouldn’t call klitchko wach,mc cline ,jack Johnson cheaters …..

Posted May 19, 2013 2:55 am 


maxmus

well said tark.and hey… ‘saying it with truth’ might be a good idea if you either changed your name or stopped commenting on fights that you are obviously over-emotionally involved with.haye gave valuev a boxing lesson. admittedly not very difficult as the guy can’t box anyway.and btw, who wants to see giants fighting dwarfs anyway? in all of the other weight divisions there is no possibility of this ridiculous weight and size discrepancy ..there should be a superheavyweight division for guys like valuev wach klitschkos and company.and while im here a comment for ‘adrian’ if a guy like mayweather runs around all night in the rinrg he gets a pound for pound rating? boxing’s not about about standing in front of a bigger guy and taking his best shots ..its about winning with the weapons u have at ur disposal.wake up ok?

Posted May 18, 2013 10:04 pm 


Adrian

Tark- haye threw 12 punches a round against valuev,12 punches…!!! I mean come on …as a shorter and smaller you should try and get inside and throw more against a big valuev ,ok his strategy worked to get a win bearly but by no means he beat valuev in any case he just gave us a 12 rounds of running ..!!

Posted May 18, 2013 9:41 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Well tark that is true but if its close in anything I would think favor goes to the champ. But I agree. There needs to be some solid integrity in officiating and judging.

Posted May 18, 2013 9:23 pm 


TARK

Plus… You “take” the title from the champion if you beat him by one point… You shouldn’t have to beat him by 6 points so you can catch a break from corrupt judges.

Posted May 18, 2013 6:50 pm 


TARK

Haye won the fight very clearly… Watch the fight again, and this time keep your eyes open and pay attention… You don’t get deducted points because you’re outweighed by over 100 pounds—and use the square footage the ring affords you to land more, harder, and better punches.. Get a brain.

Posted May 18, 2013 6:47 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Magos ko’s r exquisite for sure. Povetkin would loose to a klitschko no matter how great he is. Barret and ruiz and valuev and wlad give us plenty to see of haye. Hayes good but please don’t over do it. Povetkin gassed and the color red beat huck. Pov won the close one. Pov was gassing huck wasn’t. Povetkin did good given the fact he seemed like he couldn’t beathe

Posted May 18, 2013 5:47 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Shut up Tark…

Posted May 18, 2013 5:43 pm 


Saying it with truth

TARK if you think Haye “controlled the tempo and ring” that night against Valuev then it is indeed you who are blind, and possibly moronic. Have you ever heard of the boxing adage before “you gotta TAKE the title from the champion” ? Haye back peddled the whole night and his punch output hardly broke into double digits in most rounds, it was that low. The Champion pressed forward all night, connected, and was the far more positive fighter. I had Haye losing by 2 rounds, Darke I think had him losing by a round. I don’t mind someone saying they thought Haye was the winner by maybe a round. Whatever the case, it was too close for comfort. But you scoring it to Haye by 5 + rounds? That’s a joke. And shows your total bias towards Haye and inability to score a fight objectively

Posted May 18, 2013 5:11 pm 


KL

Bears when you say”exquisite Magomed Abdusamalov”….you are joking aren’t you??… nothing “exquisite” about the guy!…… sure he punches hard but oh what a woeful defense, there’s no doubt in my mind that Mago will get beaten as soon as he meets a half decent boxer not past their prime that can punch. Doesn’t Mago last opponent, grossly overweight journeyman Sebastian Ignacio Ceballos tell you something about team Mago?……….they just want to make sure their man doesn’t lose his KO record rather than take on anyone of better calibre!

Posted May 18, 2013 4:26 pm 


Anonymous

Guess Ian Darke doesn’t like Haye then as he had Valuev winning the fight.

Posted May 18, 2013 4:03 pm 


K-2- Fan

Bill Patrice ; If you want to give Povetkin the win over Chambers , that’s O.K. with me . However don’t say that comparing Wlad’s win over Chambers ,
to Povetkin’s win over Chambers is silly . Why is it ? You say that Chambers
could never ” get into the fight ” , because Wlad is so much bigger . Do you really think that , that is the ONLY reason ? Because if that’s your argument ,
you are dead wrong . I seem to remember a guy by the name of Dmitrenko ,
who was undefeated , and at least TWO inches TALLER than Wlad , whom
Eddie clearly beat ! This tells me that the size , was NOT the only difference
and comparing the two fights is not all silly . Better take another look at
BOTH fights ( Chambers / Pov and Wlad / Chambers ) and you’ll see what I mean .

Posted May 18, 2013 3:49 pm 


TARK

I don’t think fighters like Povetkin—who are well connected to promoters and/or organizations who secure for them fake “world” titles and decisions—should be commended. There is too much cronyism, finagling, and corruption in Boxing as it is. Most boxers don’t trust referees, judges, or organizations they know were created to suck money out of Boxing by hook or by crook. When name boxers lend themselves to these corrupt groups, so they can secure titles, an unfair advantage in their opponent selection, and partisan officiating, fans should not turn a blind eye … just because “This is Boxing.”

Posted May 18, 2013 3:28 pm 


Bill Patrice Jones

Alexander Povetkin BEAT Eddie Chambers. I love Chambers, and think he’s an exceptionally skilled fighter. Chambers was winning the fight and Povetkin adjusted to him and took over. Povetkin won that fight and beating Chambers is not easy. Aside from his bad loss to Wladimir Chambers has only struggled with: Adamek, Peter and Povetkin all top 5 heavyweights at the time. Comparing Povetkin’s fight with Chambers to Wladimir is silly. Wladimir was just way too big for Chambers to get in the fight. Against Huck Povetkin underperformed. He’s underperformed on many occasions. However, this is the first proper title defence for Wladimir since the Haye fight in 2011. People don’t want to give Povetkin credit because he represents everything they don’t like about the modern era. He’s only a huge name in Europe, is a very well seasoned amateur, is not an explosive fighter or larger than life character etc. Wladimir will probably win, but he should win. He’s an ATG in his prime and he’s almost universally huger than his opponents. I don’t really see how Wladimir loses at this point. There will never be a Haye rematch, so Pulev Povetkin and the young up and comers (who could land a boomerang punch) are the only possibilities. I hope this is a good fight

Posted May 18, 2013 2:44 pm 


Alonzo

Was that Povo’s girlfriend or daughter on the video? At any rate she had the same weird haircut he sports–‘cept it was longer.

Posted May 18, 2013 2:26 pm 


TARK

Anyone who had Valuev beating Haye just doesn’t like Haye… Haye beat Valuev by 5 points. The only reason it was scored closer than that was Haye gambled and went to Germany for the title challenge. I’m not saying it was a great win, but Valuev was 50-1 and prone to getting favors from judges in Europe. Haye was aware he needed to be him decisively, and almost scored the KO in the final round to put an exclaimation point on his superiority, so they couldn’t take the fight from him.. People made be put off by Haye’s antics, but you still need to be objective in evaluating his present skills and conditioning. Bringing up an amatuer loss 13 years later, or a loss he suffered in his 10th fight to a guy with 40 fights, are not a really objective ways of evaluating where he has taken his skills since.

Posted May 18, 2013 1:47 pm 


BEARS

I dont agree with ya tark. povetkin clearly beat chambers a good boxer. i agree povetkins pedigree is pretty good. he has good skills. i think povetkin has lacked dedication at times and motivation. but he is definetly good. i would say haye has more questions. getting beat by solis and getting hit by everyone. i think if i remember right barret dropped haye onto the ropes in their fight in england but the ref didnt call it a knockdown. i will have to watch the tape of that again. haye really has a lot more to prove at heavy. a couple years ago haye vs adamek wouldve shown us a lot. haye vs a lumbering bafoon like chisora and charr show us very little. if you ask me charr is a step down in many ways. char is slow and has a much worse work rate. charr will shell up and get hammered or get hammered while throwing a punch. if you ask me haye vs charr is a forgone conclusion. haye vs adamek, jennings, wilder is what people should be talking

Posted May 18, 2013 1:21 pm 


BEARS

Povetking has beat chambers, huck, rahman (utterly past it garbage), chagaev. Povetkin certainly deserves some rank at heavy. I would say pulev has almost made himself an equal to povetkin given pulevs recent wins and povetkins chain of weak match making. but we have some very very good fights to be made at heavyweight now b/w povetkin, pulev, fury, helenius, haye, stiverne, jennings, the klitsckos, and some guys hanging out in limbo like price, perez, solis, chagaeve, mitchel (i think mitchels toast), you have the exquisite magomed abdusamalov, dont know what happened to szpilka, i wouldnt mind a ustinov vs helenius bout. in fact i would love it. theres a lot i would love to see at heavyweight.

Posted May 18, 2013 1:07 pm 


havick

Not a fan of Povetkin’s – he’s a joke champion – but the reality is there’s a big gap between the K bros and the rest of the field. So he might be third best. Here’s a novel idea… why don’t Povetkin, Haye, Helenius, Pulev, Stiverne, etc., actually fight each other instead of being inactive for months and squabbling about who gets their ass kicked by Vlad or Vitali next? We might actually get to see some decent fights.

Posted May 18, 2013 12:52 pm 


Saying it with a sense of justice

Apologies for all my multiple posts guys. It looked as though they weren’t sending so I tried a few times

Posted May 18, 2013 11:12 am 


Say it with a smile

Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you -Chagaev, or 20 years older than you -Holyfield, actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day, Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven, both as an amateur -Haye’s amateur credentials are pretty non-existent- AND as a professional heavyweight -which Haye definitely is not either

Posted May 18, 2013 11:08 am 


JeffC

You can keep on saying how good or bad Povetkin is,but, please don’t say he’s great because of this win, take a look at Wawrzyks record, it looks good, but be honest, who has he fought?see how many of his opponents you recognize, Povetkin did what he was supposed to do, the same as Klitschko did against Pianetta, nothing more, he kept himself busy, it was NOT a great win, why? because he fought a run of the mill fighter, Povetkin does have talent in my opinion, how much? time will tell, but his team is determined to not risk him against all comers, which Klitschko does do, so I guess they know something we don’t.

Posted May 18, 2013 10:44 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Edit> when you factor in his pro achievements too

Posted May 18, 2013 10:14 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Povetkin’s a very good fighter and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. His amateur achievements alone, which are simply astonishing (all of which he accomplished fighting with a pro style), should tell you that, but the when you factor in his achievements, which include being matched much tougher from very early on in his career than 99 percent of other heavyweights usually are, and a lot of his opponents were known for their durability and ability to take a shot, which is one of the reasons why many people underrate Povetkin’s power.. make no mistake about it he can hit hard with both hands.

Posted May 18, 2013 10:13 am 


Lman

I hope that fight didnt end Lebedevs career because it probably shortened it, respect to both men, that was sheer will power against will power..

Posted May 18, 2013 10:05 am 


Ferocious rabbit

Lebedev – jones was a real throw back fight. Slips, jabs, hooks and uppers throughout the entire fight. Both may have taken too much punishment.

Posted May 18, 2013 9:51 am 


Anonymous

Povetkin strugglled with Huck and Chambers, If he doesnt fight Wlad next then maybe Thompson or Haye should have a crack, that should tell u all u need to know about his chances with Wlad which I believe arent good..

Posted May 18, 2013 9:12 am 


K-2- Fan

It’s true that anything can happen in a heavyweight fight , but I look at the Wlad / Pov fight this way ; Povetkin struggled to squeak out a very questionable ” win ” against Chambers . He was actually beaten up by a cruiserweight , in Huck . In contrast Wlad did not give Eddie a single round and in the end knocked him COLD ! Wlad did not fight Huck , but I honestly cannot IMAGINE Huck giving Wlad ANY problems at all . People still don’t realize ,
just how good Wlad has become . The most ardent detractors , still look at Wlad as he was ten years ago . What they fail to see is ; he has become a
extremely efficient , powerful killing machine , that makes other fighters look ;
slow , tentative and inadequate , in comparison . It’s not that his opposition is so bad , as his detractors never tire of saying , it’s because Wlad is that GOOD !

Posted May 18, 2013 8:52 am 


demon

Jones did not do a drug test. The guy should be jailed for attempted murder

Posted May 18, 2013 8:45 am 


dwc

Povetkin has done very little for a guy 33yrs old with a big amature background this was a nothing win against a nobody.

Posted May 18, 2013 8:41 am 


dwc

Povetkin getting alot of credit for beating this nobody.For as long as Povetkin been around and his amature background his career is very lacking overall.

Posted May 18, 2013 8:38 am 


Say it with a smile

Tark you bring up the sloppy performance against Huck but what about hayes near disaster against. Valuev? I actually was in agreement with Ian darke on sky and had haye losing that fight. He still only managed to scrape an MD. When a man 3 inches shorter than you like chagaev or 20 years older like holyfield. Can look better against a mutual opponent then it begs major questions. End of the day povetkin is already a proven world class heavy. The same can’t be said for haye whose best win is over domestic rival with a 15-4 record

Posted May 18, 2013 8:23 am 


KOrnerman

Povetkin has good movement, he might can close the gap ad get to Vlad and if h does he has the powe to hurt him so….should be interestng

Posted May 18, 2013 8:15 am 


KOrnerman

I have to say though the right and left uppercuts jones was landing to the breadbasket were a thing of beauty, real old skool 70- 80’s style fighting I was loving it.

Posted May 18, 2013 8:10 am 


KOrnerman

guys rumour has it that Jones refused a dope test after the fight, It wouldn’t surprise me if he was on something because the shots he was able to eat was inhuman like.

Posted May 18, 2013 8:08 am 


Y-name

Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you -Chagaev, or 20 years older than you -Holyfield, actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day, Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day

Posted May 18, 2013 7:58 am 


Anonymous

So it’s like this. Tark says “He (AP) is very easy to hit with jabs and straight rights” as is your crush Haye. The ONLY reason Haye looked defensively good against Wlad is cause he was petrified of getting tagged! He wouldn’t open up! In just about ALL his fights bar Wlad and Harrison (since neither threw a punch at each other) Haye gets tagged easy and OFTEN! Chisora who is no speed merchant and he tagged Haye a lot. I think in the 3rd round he had Haye do the chicken dance. Valuev is as Slow as the come and he was getting through with jabs ffs! Ruiz tagged him over and over EVERY round

Posted May 18, 2013 7:38 am 


Bawsack

Jeeez lebedevs eye was an absolute mess!!!! What a fight,,,

Posted May 18, 2013 7:16 am 


and again

Tark brings up AP against Huck, what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you like Chagaev, or 20 years older than you like Holyfield actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven

Posted May 18, 2013 6:48 am 


Saying it with a smile

Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you like Chagaev, or 20 years older than you like Holyfield actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven

Posted May 18, 2013 6:47 am 


Saying it again

Still can’t properly comment….

Posted May 18, 2013 6:45 am 


Saying it again

“He (AP) is very easy to hit with jabs and straight rights”
as is your crush Haye.
The ONLY reason Haye looked defensively good against Wlad is cause he was petrified of getting tagged!
He wouldn’t open up! In just about ALL his fights bar Wlad and Harrison (since neither threw a punch at each other)
Haye gets tagged easy and OFTEN! Chisora who is no speed merchant and he tagged Haye a lot. I think in the 3rd round he had Haye do the chicken dance. Valuev is as Slow as the come and he was getting through with jabs ffs! Ruiz tagged him over and over EVERY round.

Posted May 18, 2013 6:43 am 


Say it with a smile

Maybe this time? Hey Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you -Chagaev, or 20 years older than you -Holyfield, actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day, Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven, both as an amateur -Haye’s amateur credentials are pretty non-existent- AND as a professional heavyweight -which Haye definitely is not either

Posted May 18, 2013 6:41 am 


Adrian

Bill Patrice : nice analyses about povetkin ,I agree completely ..

Tark I usually agree with your posts but this time you are way off when you say povetkin has no skills and chambers beat him also that he ducked pulev ,maybe he did but we don’t know .
Ha won against chamberes when chambers was undefited and is no easy task to beat chambers … I think povetkin is in the same ligue with sultan ibrahimov ,but I hope povetkin tries more to try and catch wlad than sultan did !

Posted May 18, 2013 5:46 am 


Say it with a smile

“He (AP) is very easy to hit with jabs and straight rights” as is your crush Haye. The ONLY reason Haye looked defensively good against Wlad is cause he was petrified of getting tagged! He wouldn’t open up! In just about ALL his fights bar Wlad and Harrison (since neither threw a punch at each other) Haye gets tagged easy and OFTEN! Chisora who is no speed merchant and he tagged Haye a lot. I think in the 3rd round he had Haye do the chicken dance. Valuev is as Slow as the come and he was getting through with jabs ffs! Ruiz tagged him over and over EVERY round. Haye is no Mayweather when it comes to defense. At least AP has a go and opens up. I could never envision Povetkin getting tagged over and over (and shook up in the third) by the likes of Chisora and 40 year old Ruiz.

Posted May 18, 2013 5:44 am 


choky

i dont see povetkin having ay chance agnst wk – would agree with those who think that this will be same scenario as wk agnst chagaev – expect wk to stop him arnd 8-10 th round

Posted May 18, 2013 5:44 am 


Say it with a smile

C mon, why can’t I post? Hey Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you -Chagaev, or 20 years older than you -Holyfield, actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day, Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven, both as an amateur -Haye’s amateur credentials are pretty non-existent- AND as a professional heavyweight -which Haye definitely is not either

Posted May 18, 2013 5:34 am 


Say it with a smile

Hey Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you (Chagaev) or 20 years older than you (Holyfield) actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day, Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven, both as an amateur (Haye’s amateur credentials are pretty non-existent ) AND as a professional heavyweight (which Haye definitely is not either)

Posted May 18, 2013 5:32 am 


Say it with Roses

Well here is half, fingers crosses. Tark “He has consistently ducked dangerous heavyweights such as David Haye and Kubrat Pulev” Really? WHEN were such fights ever in negotiations? And if you say they were prove it and don’t merely pull something out of your head. If ANYONE has ducked dangerous heavyweights it’s Haye, a man you seem to have a fascination with. He has yet to fight a young, viable and Skilled contender. He is the biggest con man inside of boxing, HE is the one who has ducked the likes of Povetkin, Pulev etc to date and instead took on the likes of Chisoras, and 40 year old Harrisons and Ruizs. To date Povetkin is the PROVEN heavyweight, Haye the hype job is not. When your most impressive win in your heavyweight career is over a domestic rival with a record of something like 14-4, then yeah, you still have a LOT to prove at the weight, as Haye does.

Posted May 18, 2013 5:31 am 


Say it with Roses

Tark “He has consistently ducked dangerous heavyweights such as David Haye and Kubrat Pulev” Really? WHEN were such fights ever in negotiations? And if you say they were prove it and don’t merely pull something out of your head. If ANYONE has ducked dangerous heavyweights it’s Haye, a man you seem to have a fascination with. He has yet to fight a young, viable and Skilled contender. He is the biggest con man inside of boxing, HE is the one who has ducked the likes of Povetkin, Pulev etc to date and instead took on the likes of ONCE AGAIN, what i wanted to say: Chisoras, and 40 year old Harrisons and Ruizs. To date Povetkin is the PROVEN heavyweight, Haye the hype job is not. When your most impressive win in your heavyweight career is over a domestic rival with a record of something like 14-4, then yeah, you still have a LOT to prove at the weight, as Haye does. Hey Tark you bring up the sloppy performance of AP against Huck, well what about Haye’s near disaster against Vaulev? I actually had Haye losing that fight as did Ian Darke of sky. He only scrapped a MD. When a man three inches shorter than you (Chagaev) or 20 years older than you (Holyfield) actually look better against a mutual opponent then Major Question marks hang over your head. End of the day, Haye still has a lot to prove at heavy, and I would choose a focused and in-shape Povetkin over Haye any day. AP is already proven, both as an amateur (Haye’s amateur credentials are pretty non-existent ) AND as a professional heavyweight (which Haye definitely is not either)

Posted May 18, 2013 5:30 am 


Say it

I can’t make a follow on comment on this stupid site, why? I’ve spent the last 10 minutes typing there!

Posted May 18, 2013 5:29 am 


Anonymous

TARK occasionally what you write makes sense but what you just wrote there is one of the biggest pieces of crap I’ve read from anyone here in a long time. AP “lacks skills” does he? Firstly have you seen his amateur credentials? X 2 European Gold Champion Super Heavyweight. X 1 World Gold Medal winner World Championships (Super heavyweight). x 1 Gold Olympic Medal winner (Super Heavyweight). Along with many other regional titles. As a pro he is presently 26-0 (18). He holds wins over the likes of Chagaev, Donald, Chris Byrd (via stoppage), Chambers. He gets constantly hanged for his sloppy performance against Huck (another very decent fighter), a fight that many including myself (and I’m sure ever AP himself) expected him to walk over based on his HIGH skill set and natural size advantage. He underestimated Huck and ‘almost’ paid the price. It was a fight that could have gone either way. What great champion has never had an ‘off night’ Tark? And based on some of those above names how the hell has he only fought “tomato cans”? Name an active heavy outside of the Klitschkos with a more impressive resume (in the wins category). This should be funny

Posted May 18, 2013 4:47 am 


Lenin

Vlad by (T)KO in round 8 or 9. Easy money.

Posted May 18, 2013 3:45 am 


TARK

@Patrice Jones… AP might have vast experience but he lacks skills.. He is very easy to hit with jabs and straight rights so WK would murder him. Feather punching Eddie Chambers beat him up. Marco Huck would have knocked him out if not for a friendly referee. He has consistently ducked dangerous heavyweights such as David Haye and Kubrat Pulev.. He has ducked Wladimir Klitschko for years.. If he fights Wladimir that tells me he’s ready to cash it in with a big payday and retire because he’s been fighting nothing but tomato cans. The Rahman fight was a disgrace … and so was this one.

Posted May 18, 2013 3:07 am 


hookoffthejab

Jone fought as a welterweight at the start of his career, he would’ve been a monster at that weight ! A lot of punishment taken by both fighters with JOnes taken some hUGE shots from Lebedev .The fight really should have been stopped from around the 6th onwards,as Lebedev ‘s eye was grotesquely swollen with edema,all the way to his temple hope no permanent damage was done to his eye ?

Posted May 18, 2013 2:45 am 


harry

they’ll just make this regular belt vacant.

Posted May 18, 2013 2:13 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

Povetkin is not to be underestimated at all in his fight with Wladimir. He is a fighter who can definitely be lazy, and subsequently let himself and spectators down. I’ve seen lots of performances from him where he is not operating anywhere near his potential. He’s the archetypal seasoned boxer. Massive amateur experience, huge skill set, total assurance of the ring etc. That confidence can lead him to coast. However, when he wants to turn it on he’s dangerous. Can punch with both hands, good speed, great timing, harder to hit clean than it seems. Chagaev’s a talented boxer but he never looked like being able to decision him. I think Povetkin should stay away for 2-3 rounds and then just go for it against Wladimir. Step inside aggressively and take chances with short powerful hooks. Try to take him by surprise with small explosions. Chances are Wladimir catches him with a huge shot in the middle rounds for a KO, but I want to see Povetkin go out on his shield. What’s the point in this huge fight if he just gets boxed to a wide UD because he’s small? Also what will the WBA do when Wladimir has the WBA and super WBA belt? Will they make a supreme WBA world title and let Haye fight for it?

Posted May 18, 2013 1:48 am 


rod

Povetkin is one of those guys who is good at everything but brilliant at nothing. He has a good defense, stalks down opponents and does his job. Would he beat Pulev, don’t think so but it would be close. Would be beat Stiverne, probably because even with his chubby physique he would come in at better shape. Against Wlad who is so much taller, so much more athletic and has elite skills. Very very hard for Povetkin to win. It will be a good show. If chambers can go 12 rounds with Wlad maybe Povetkin will see the end of the 12th

Posted May 18, 2013 1:44 am 


huckster

Pulev-Wlad 2013!

Posted May 18, 2013 12:43 am 


Adrian

Congrats to jones! I didn’t see the fight but beating lebedev is no easy task!

Now povetkin is a very good haveyweight and I think klitchko will have a tough night but I the end I think when povetking starts to open up (if he does) he will get stoped !
But no matter what I think some klitchko haters now will still say povetkin is a bum and klitchko beat just another bum…

Posted May 18, 2013 12:22 am 


Hаtеr

Тhеll thеm Pulеv-dаngеr! Is coming!!

Posted May 18, 2013 12:18 am 


Proud African

The Jones vs Lebedev fight is available on Youtube

youtube.com/watch?v=VnSZwbWQE4Y

Posted May 17, 2013 11:58 pm 


Proud African

Congrats to Guillermo Jones. That Lebedev guy is a tough fighter.

Posted May 17, 2013 11:46 pm 


Mick the Marmalizer

So what happens if Wlad/Povotkin’s not made? Do the mighty WBA strip both there so called super & regular champions?

Posted May 17, 2013 8:03 pm 


Greylo

I wonder about Povetkin’s chin if he fights Wlad and gets hit consistantly with strong right hands.
I just rewatched Pov fight with Chambers and at least then Pov just couldn’t land many punches on a defensive Chambers who kept his gloves up the entire fight. Pov got nailed a few good times so I don’t see how he can win a fight against Wlad or Vitali.

Against Wawrzyk he timed some nice right hands so maybe his skill has improved somewhat in his last several fights.
If he fought Vitali I don’t think that fight would go the distance. Vitaly has a good chin and some unpredictable boxing skills. Not to mention porven KO power.
Against Wlad Pov stands a certain chance of getting KO’d. I wonder how much power Pov would have against Wlad. Maybe enough to knock him out?

Posted May 17, 2013 7:57 pm 


Edgar Guevara

It is to bad we can not see these guys Povetkin and Jones in USA national television. We miss good fighters skills.

Posted May 17, 2013 7:26 pm 


Derek

Povetkin is bigger than Chagaev, and that’s the only reason he might do better. Skillwise they aren’t too different, Chagaev probably hits a bit harder too. But Povetkin has a few inches of height and reach on him, so he won’t be quite as ineffective as Ruslan was. Povetkin – Vitali would be a much more entertaining fight, as they would actually exchange. Wlad will protect himself at all costs and slowly jab Povetkin to a UD 12.

Posted May 17, 2013 6:43 pm 


Alonzo

testostrone replacement?

Posted May 17, 2013 6:33 pm 


The Ghost

I bet Jones was on the juice again.

Posted May 17, 2013 6:16 pm 


Alonzo

I’m shocked Lebedev got stopped by Jones–1997 anyone?

Posted May 17, 2013 6:10 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Guys were saying this JOnes-Lebedev fight was a front runner for FOY. Pics of Denis Lebedev’s eye are grotesque.

Posted May 17, 2013 6:07 pm 


Alonzo

Alpo looked good in this fight–watched it on youtube. Three knock downs. At any rate his fight with Klit will probably be a clone of Klit’s fight with Sultan “where is he now” Ibragimov.

Posted May 17, 2013 6:06 pm 


Marco

Good performance by Povetkin.He didn’t hang around but finished the business quickly.I give him a good chance against Klitschko.he hast fast hand and a great left hook.Klitschko the favorite but a Povetkin wouldn’t shock me.Lets not forget the guy is unbeaten in amateur and professional boxing since 12 years and won
European,World and Olympic gold titles on the was plus the WBA “World Title”.I look forward to October 5th.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:54 pm 


Alonzo

Shucks. I thought he was the next Andrew Golota.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:49 pm 


PolishPummler

Meh Wawrzyk was garbage anyway. There is good reason as to why you probably never heard of him in the past. Looking forward to catching the Jones – Lebedev replay.

Posted May 17, 2013 5:35 pm 


Kote

Tszyu and Lebedev’s cutman are inhuman monsters. So couldn’t-care-less attitude I could only imagine. Respect for the fighters!

Posted May 17, 2013 5:03 pm 


René

The triumph of talent toward money, politics, & hype! Good job Guillermo Jones!

funny thing in the live broadcast, they only show Lebedev best shots between rounds! and I don’t talk abouts their stats! all in favor of Lebedev! and those two clowns of boxnation, boxing journalists my A%%!

and the Russian show is crazy retarded

Posted May 17, 2013 5:02 pm 


badger

great for povetkin. The Russians love to beat up the poles. Hopefully he will now box Wlad.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:50 pm 


Wolf

Nice wins for Jones and Povetkin. Now lets see Povetkin step up in class. Hopefully the Klitschkos. Or if not a top contender.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:44 pm 


PJD

In total agreement with you, Gym Rat.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:43 pm 


Gym Rat

What’s so hilarious about me comment? Giving my thoughts on a fantastic fight I just witnessed and mentioning at the end of my comment that it was a more potentially career shortening eye injury Lebedev suffered compared to VK?

Posted May 17, 2013 4:39 pm 


punch

Gym Rat your comment is as hillarious as your login name. But stay delusional my friend.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:36 pm 


Gym Rat

Amazing fight between Lebedev and Jones. One for the ages. That was definetely a worse and potentially long-term suffering eye injury that Lebedev suffered compared to Vitali against Lewis (although less bloody). The swelling was crazy. Yet that fight was allowed to continue on until the 11th and beyond! (Only Lebedev was finally beaten). Had they not of stopped the Vitali-Lewis fight, Lewis would have been stopped no question in a maximum of 2 rounds later (by the 8th). He also would have been KO’d in a rematch, which he knew hence the reason he ran for the hills into retirement turning down a huge pay day of the rematch that was ordered. Klitschkos are the best ever too.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:31 pm 


harry

VLADIMIR WILL DESTROY AND END POVETKINS CAREER. AND LEBEDEV WAS UNLUCKY WITH THE EARLY INJURY. JONES REMINDED ME TONY THOMPSON.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:22 pm 


dexter

Classic

Posted May 17, 2013 4:16 pm 


Fred

Ohh my god, what a fight, probably the best i have seen in my time.
Really brutal, lebedev fought most of the fight with one eye, Jones has chin of stone, respect to both fighters. Lebedev would have won the fight if continued one more round.
Sad Jones havent had a greater career, hes the real deal, huge respect to both fighters, because of fights like this, boxing pisses over any other combat sport.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:14 pm 


This guy

The fight between Lebedev and Jones was one of the best fights I’ve ever seen. Unbelievable. And the eye of Lebedev! If he’s permanently blinde after that I’m not surprised. Congratulation Jones!!!

Posted May 17, 2013 4:08 pm 


KOrnerman

Jones just stopped Lebedev in rd 11!!!! what a fight

Posted May 17, 2013 4:02 pm 


PJD

Lebedev looking like Hasim Rahman.

Posted May 17, 2013 4:01 pm 


KOrnerman

guys wait till you see Lebedevs eye its like he Elephant man.

Posted May 17, 2013 3:59 pm 


KOrnerman

Jones has the best chin ive ever seen some of the shots hes took would KO a horse

Posted May 17, 2013 3:49 pm 


KOrnerman

Jones has been chewing on some BOMBS!!! what a scrap,Denis cant see out right eye its a mess.

Posted May 17, 2013 3:46 pm 


KOrnerman

lebedev vs jones is a WAR

Posted May 17, 2013 3:39 pm 


KOrnerman

lebedev vs jones is a WWWWWAAAAAARRRR!!!!

Posted May 17, 2013 3:39 pm 


BEARS

i need to see the tape of this fight asap

Posted May 17, 2013 3:38 pm 


Hmmmm

I was hoping he would beat Povetkin….im not a fan of him and his paper champ status. I guess Povetkin was expected to beat this nobody, but lets see him fight someone with a pulse now…ie Klitschko.

Posted May 17, 2013 3:35 pm 


Kursk

CONGRATULATIONS ALEXANDER!

Posted May 17, 2013 3:34 pm 


BEARS

Didnt some dummy in an article below pick wawrzyk to win? Povetkin blew this dude out of the water

Posted May 17, 2013 3:25 pm 


Hmmmm

Looks like Povetkin did it then!! Lets see if he has the guts to fight Klitschko now. The way I see that fight going don is similar to Klitschko vs Chagaev.

Posted May 17, 2013 3:18 pm 



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