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Gonzo of Nazareth

Lol @ Squared-Circle and te tumbo.

Posted May 25, 2013 8:18 am 


te tumbo

“i have told you that ‘AD’ is the sharpest knife in the drawer on a consistent basis whether I agree or disagree with his stance on a given matter…” i haven’t quite figured out how “AD” translates to Te Tumbo but i’m not gonna quibble and simply “Thank” Redmond for the unexpected endorsement. regardless of how self-evident that statement already is to my various admirers and stalkers.

Posted May 24, 2013 10:23 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

SREDMOND: I didn’t know that you’re in a wheel chair as a result of a vicious beating you received after raping some guys dog… LOL. Wow, just wow!!! Must have been a white boy who permanently disabled you and that explains why you HATE all white fighters so deeply. It all makes sense now.

Posted May 24, 2013 6:37 pm 


DELK1

FISH, name the fighter, and Im sure Mayweather could add him to that list also. LOL

Posted May 24, 2013 5:06 pm 


Fish Eyes

Wow.. In the last three years, Mayweather has had three fights.. Versus Cotto, and two guys that had just beat Berto.. Wow, No other fighter could do this..

Posted May 24, 2013 2:50 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#1 lololol

Posted May 24, 2013 12:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Back to discussing your deviant fetishes Gonzo? Seriously it’s time to migrate your small mind out of the porn genre… I have told you more than once it’s time to get outbid Repton and move to a REAL city! You will learn about, culture, boxing and literature something beyond your fixations on “Beastiality, Scat Porn” and Floyd’s balls on your chin… AGAIN I didn’t make him P4P #1 or the highest paid athlete in the world MILLONS of others did and until he gets knocked off that’s where he’s gonna stay… While you lament Broner beating the HELL out of Gavin Rees!! But then again you probably think Rees was winning?? You have gone on the record and stated Demarco was in the fight… Seriously your hatred of certain fighters has rendered your version of judgement a running joke!

Posted May 24, 2013 10:37 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#1

Posted May 24, 2013 10:26 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

My work here is done. lol

Posted May 24, 2013 10:26 am 


SREDMOND

GONE-SO we ALL know you’re a common Bigot due to your statements over the past year… They have seen by MANY posters, silent and otherwise mixed in with your hollow threats just because I have brow beaten you into feigning being PC it changes nothing!!.. As for Floyd Mayweathers undeniable GREATNESS and dominance in the sport that’s NOT a figment of my imagination it’s supported by all RANKINGS, Unreal financial rewards, PPV numbers and the respect and admiration of his fellow fighters… You can scarcely find a boxer or trainer active today who does not see Floyd as the clear cut best at his craft… Pre fight you will hear all the blister from an opposing camp, and after they walk away looking chewed up and inept… Much like yourself, I punish your Narcissistic ass for my amusement, obviously I have a CRUEL streak… CLEARLY you’re NOT the best poster on ESB or anything close…!!! The ONLY person who makes that statement in reference to YOU is YOU….!!! Who do you think the best fighter in the sport is ???? Gavin Rees LMAO? Amir Khan?? When it comes to FMJ it’s woulda, coulda, shoulda…. Your riding Canelos sack and he has one major win on his docket after 40 plus fights..You think he’s Greater than FMJ??? In what World ?? Canelos a very good young fighter but he’s not even the best young fighter out there today… Broner has more overall talent… Mayweathers a whole other conversation… I have burst your bubble, ruined your false pride and exposed you for the petulant child that you are.. Mission Accomplished!

Posted May 24, 2013 9:44 am 


James

What’s wrogs with writer, either you make weight or not. Do they want 154 belt or do you want to gift rap it for some fighters and not to others. No such thing as weight advantage because you can also say loosing all that weight the day before can affect you. The rules are rules and these writer are so full B.S.

Posted May 23, 2013 8:36 pm 


TARK

Sredmond writes…. “Trying to sell the battered and bloodied Trinidad as “whipping Oscars ass” is a joke”

Trinidad’s face wasn’t battered you idiot… His damned nose bled… Did Floyd have a bleeding freakin’ nose in the Cotto fight??? It’s common.

The guy who’s face was battered was Oscar… Check out his right eye… Trinidad whipped Oscar’s butt… It was convincing enough for Oscar, the 3 judges, and the HBO crew… Oscar avoided Trinidad like the plague for the rest of his career.

Posted May 23, 2013 8:27 pm 


Edd

Tumbito as far as DLH and Quartey……the fight was so close, so close many felt Quartey taxed that ass and then some and deserved the win. It was not a walk in the park nor was it a shut out for Oscar the way you describe it.I think oscar was “rewarded” the fight simply because of the very last round, in fact, the last few seconds where he was throwing flurries but Quartey held his own and did not stop throwing until the last seconds. Outside of this round which was the best for Oscar, the rest of the fight rested with Quartey hands down.

Posted May 23, 2013 4:28 pm 


Done Deal

Plenty of fighters that are Canelo’s natural size since he comes in the ring between 165-172. Cotto, Martinez, Ward, Dirrel, kessler, Froch. These guys fight at Middle and super middle all below 170 at Whey in. now this does not mean that they weigh that on fight night, but hell Canelo has done that to all his opponents but Trout. De La hoya knows what he is doing and he is always going to prey PBF loses. he Always has.

Posted May 23, 2013 3:28 pm 


Hidalgo

If this comment posts it will be a miracle because my last 10 attempts have failed. Thank you very much ESB.

Posted May 23, 2013 9:03 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

te tumbo.. No one’s saying Floyd isn’t a goods fighter, he is. Despite his flagrant cherrypicking and shamelessly ducking his biggest rival and his steadfast refusal to take on legitimate threats at 147 and above while they’re still in their prime, he’s still a sure fire HOF in my eyes, and unquestionably one of the most talented fighters of his generation. He’s not one of the true greats though. Not only does he not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the likes of Robinson, Greb, Armstrong, both Leonards, Duran, Pep, Charles etc. but he’s also wouldn’t dare even think about dreaming about fighting fighters of that calibre in a million and one years.. Hell, he bolted back into his chicken coop faster than a cheetah on PEDs from guys who aren’t fit to lace fighters of that calibre’s spit bucket. lol

Posted May 23, 2013 7:47 am 


SREDMOND = Public Enemy

this ass clown ain’t fooling no one anymore. it’s plain as day at this point

Posted May 23, 2013 6:59 am 


Public Enemy

Mayweather vs MargaCheato at 147lbs.. LOL, that would be one short career comeback for that loser…

Posted May 23, 2013 6:53 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

#1 lol

Posted May 23, 2013 6:30 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Check out the ‘Is Mayweather ducking Canelo by asking him to come down to 147?’ thread on page 8 (well at the moment it is).. Once again SRED gets brutally decimated by yours truly. And take heed of the date of the challenge I set him to try and back up his spurious lies and allegations, which as you can see he ever so predictably failed to meet. It was a very simple task.. all he had to do had to do was provide one post of mine (and I’ve been posting a lot lately) from before that date .. anything after that date is obviously him masquerading as me, something he has been caught red-handed doing on here before. I posted a link to it in this thread but it hasn’t gone through yet.

Posted May 23, 2013 6:28 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Edit>Beating women senseless in front of their children

Posted May 23, 2013 6:10 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, you’re a terrible fight observer and in this regard your plain dishinonest… Trying to sell the battered and bloodied Trinidad as “whipping Oscars ass” is a joke.. That fight will be discussed till time ends because the the majority of the bout GREATLY favored ODH your emotional punishment because De La Hoya fought safe the last 3 rounds is weak he was still tagging Tito… Meanwhile when Canelo somewhat coasted due to open scoring you laid him like a drunk soccer dad…

Posted May 23, 2013 1:45 am 


TARK

Trinidad wanted an immediate rematch with Oscar after he beat him, to prove he could whip Oscar’s ass again — and to quiet Oscar’s carping and complaining.. Mosley tried very, very hard to get a 3rd fight with Oscar — and just could not get Mr. Reluctant back into a ring again.. He also wanted Oscar to shut up and fight.. Trinidad tried many different times to give Oscar a return match — and Mr. Reluctant just wouldn’t do it … Oscar just did not want those many losses to mount up and up and UP.

Posted May 23, 2013 1:20 am 


SREDMOND

Te Tumbo, I will agree that ODH was robbed 2x Mosley II and Trinidad… That’s said his incessant predictions about Mayweathers demise and his excuses about why he lost to FMJ and PAC don’t sit we’ll.. As far as ambassador status, the sight of him in fishnets, rehabs and revelations about his partying as a professional have somewhat tainted the “Golden Boy” image he sought to cultivate… I’m a fan of Oscars and he did fight a very rigorous schedule… But facts are facts…

Posted May 23, 2013 12:39 am 


PEEJ

Oscar definitely beat Tito 8 rounds to 4. Yes Oscar ran for those last 4 rounds and that definitely cost him but it shouldn’t had. Lesson from that is fight all 12 rounds.

Posted May 23, 2013 12:18 am 


Hidalgo

Nice of you to drop in Ghetto Thug. You imbecile.

Posted May 23, 2013 12:16 am 


Richard Bulger

If Broner takes Paulie’s 147 Belt, then Broner should face Matweather in a 147 showdown called ‘The Shoulder Roll Rumble’

Posted May 22, 2013 11:59 pm 


TARK

Oscar De La Hoya certainly did NOT fight everyone.. Oscar fought lesser fighters than Winky Wright when both Oscar and Wright were 154-pound champions … ducking Wright for years.

Wright did NOT get a shot at an elite name fighter until Mosley whipped Oscar twice and Mosley finally gave Wright his long deserved shot at a big name boxer… Trinidad also gave Wright a well deserved shot—and Winky beat both Trinidad and Mosley, who own 3 wins over Oscar. Winky beat them very conclusively to show he deserved to have fought Oscar.. Oscar of course refused redhot rematches with Trinidad and Mosley for years and years and years.. Oscar was involved in one robbery and that was when he fought Felix Sturm … For some mysterious reason the judges who thought Oscar beat Felix Sturm also wound up judging the Hopkins-De La Hoya fight.. Of course Oscar lost that won by KO so the judges weren’t needed.

Posted May 22, 2013 11:41 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd is a 5 division titlest and a 3 division champion

Posted May 22, 2013 11:16 pm 


PEEJ

Who was Oscar robbed against besides Tito? I thought Oscar got a gift against Quartey.

Posted May 22, 2013 11:15 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Hidalgo- 5 divisions u idiot

Posted May 22, 2013 11:04 pm 


te tumbo

“Oscar lost 6 times” disregard your “facts”. DLH was robbed twice and what fight-fan doesn’t respect that unofficial fact? he got shocked by Mosley the first time; caught by B-Hops; and foolishly dieted (not train) to presumably step on Pacquiao* on his way back(?!) to 140lbs to pounce on Hatton (lol . . . even i have to chuckle at that delusion). he chose poorly. otherwise, he fought EVERYone. he was Mares before Mares. the “post-mortem”(?) of his career is successful ambassador and promoter of Boxing and fountain of youth for Arum who isn’t bowing out of anything while DLH lives and prospers.

Posted May 22, 2013 10:22 pm 


Hidalgo

BTW, Floyd has 10 titles in 6 divisions now doesn’t he?

Posted May 22, 2013 8:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Oscar lost 6 times, including FMJ and was humiliated by a fighter coming up from 135… I have respect for ODH but he’s NOT and never was he athlete and worker FMJ is… That’s why the post mortem on his career has been predicting Mayweather losses that NEVER happen.. It’s a running Joke…

Posted May 22, 2013 8:32 pm 


Hidalgo

“That somehow he managed to stay undefeated while winning 8 world championships in 5 weight divisions. ” Well, that’s pretty good. Hasn’t Oscar de La Hoya won 10 titles in 5 weight divisions?

Posted May 22, 2013 8:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, I’m not sure what you’re more addicted to Gonzos BREAST milk or the stench of his back hair?? Seriously if you’re gonna ride another poster so hard at least get a ring out of it? They perform Civil Unions all over the US… Sheesh Man up!

Posted May 22, 2013 8:18 pm 


Hidalgo

“DID YOU SAY THAT WHEN …” Well, Delk1, here’s what I said about all those fights:

Pac/Marg: “Margarito the cheater doesn’t deserve the fight. It’s a title bout designed to get Pacquiao another title which he will never defend.” I was right about that. On both counts.

On Pac/DLH: Prior to fighting De la Hoya, Pacquaio had never fought higher than light weight. He came up two weight divisions to fight De la Hoya whereas DLH came down one to fight him. Remember, LUNKHEAD? BTW, I picked Pac to win, nonetheless.

On Pac/Cotto: No, I didn’t have a problem with Cotto coming in at 2 pounds underweight. Cotto didn’t either until after he stewed on his butt-kicking loss for a year or more. In an interview shortly after his loss to Pacquiao Cotto stated “Weight wasn’t the problem. He was too fast.” 1 1/2 years later, Cotto changes his tune and blames his loss on having to lose two measley pounds.

Any other stupid questions, Delk1? You CLOWN!!!!

Posted May 22, 2013 8:18 pm 


Pain

lol @ “there isn’t an unprecedented payday that “Money” can resist”

50 cent, Mayweather’s BFF calls Floyd an idiot for ducking Pacquiao and the money from that superfight.

Posted May 22, 2013 8:02 pm 


te tumbo

“magical mullet of mystery”? (LoL). anyway GONZO, Margarito’s a roughneck who came up hard but Floyd is no thug regardless of his ghetto-posturing. he’s a professional athlete who like DLH has never fought and will never fight for free. that’s what the bodyguards are for. money is Floyd’s spinach. enough of that green and cue the Popeye theme as Floyd proceeds to clown, bait, pot-shot, and dominate any and every opponent they put in front of him. there isn’t a single welter who can compete v. Floyd. Not-A-One. Canelo’s size, power, and prime give him a fighting-shot and for the right amount of compensation, i’m certain Floyd will grant him that shot. after all, there isn’t an unprecedented payday that “Money” can resist and if they give Mayweather his due, he will become properly inspired and proceed to give Canelo what he’s asking for. it won’t be exciting or particularly impressive, Mayweather has yet to truly impress at 154lbs, but it will be convincing.

Posted May 22, 2013 7:19 pm 


Adrian

Gonzo”He also told me that his nostrils could also detect the unmistakable stench of human kaka too, but he couldn’t confirm for certain whether Floyd was the guilty party or not. lol”
Hahahahaha …:

Posted May 22, 2013 6:41 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Edit> Got beaten out of sight by a Mexican punch bag.

Posted May 22, 2013 6:37 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Adrian ;)

Posted May 22, 2013 6:24 pm 


TARK

It’s kind of funny with Floyd being the biggest coward and fraud in the history of Boxing that he’s the world’s highest paid athlete… That somehow he managed to stay undefeated while winning 8 world championships in 5 weight divisions. No one else in fistic history has ever managed to accomplish this. Floyd must be a magician to fool so many fans, boxing experts, and media professionals… I guess only people with true insight like Gonzo see through his elaborate facade.

Posted May 22, 2013 6:23 pm 


Delk1

Bob Bontar said:
Shredog: The only pain I feel is a pain in the ass. And you are a pain in the ass. Floyd needs to defend his 154 title and not whine about Saul walking at 170 lbs. on Friday nights. If he walks at 170 then he is slow and the Great and Rich and Wonderful and WW Champ (WTF) should be very fast at 158 which he maybe walking at. Floyd is the co-owner of the WBA Super Welterweight Belt and he needs to defend it with the other co-owner of the same belt….Saul. It doesn’t matter how many women Floyd has hit or beaten, he needs to step up and be a man and defend the weight class he represents as his title. So stfu about little pee pee’s creds, because down deep he is just a little twerp!! A sawed off piece of slime. Step up Floyd and be a man. What is 7 pounds anyway to the Great and Almighty Little Floyd Fauntleroid.

Yeah MAYweather do like the great PACROID DO. Make everybody sweat down to nothing, then beat the CRAP out of them. YEAH! Lets get it on.

Posted May 22, 2013 5:48 pm 


Anonymous

Not too long ago the issue was Canelo’s youth, lack of defense and overall style that would be detrimental in a fight versus Mayweather…Now that Canelo put in the hard work and proved his critics wrong against Trout…Here come other issues. Why do that? Floyd fans and boxing fans in general should demand this fight! Where would Pryor be without Arguello? Where would Chavez Sr be without Taylor? Where would Sugar be without Duran? We all know what eventually happened to Roy Jones Jr…That’s all you’re doing with your legacy Mayweather…You’ll just be the next Roy Jones Jr. A champion with an asteric next to your name! Don’t insult those that layed the path before you (including your uncle who took a risk and was beat by the best in his generation) and tend to your duty as a true warrior! Legacy will always be more important than money, wins, and losses!

Posted May 22, 2013 5:46 pm 


Delk1

Hidago you sound like a fool:: HIDAGO SAID::
If that’s the case, then Canelo should agree to fight Floyd at 147, then after signing the contract, make a public statement: “I only took this fight for the money. Floyd has demanded that I drop to 147 so that he will have a distinct physical advantage over me when we fight. It will be difficult for me to fight at my best because I have not fought at 147 in three years. In truth I am too big to fight at 147. Floyd knows this. So, the price I am paying for a possible loss is __Million. Now you know why I took the fight. Floyd, meanwhile, will have another great opportunity to keep his “0″ but everyone will still know that Floyd does not have the courage to fight me at my regular weight.”!!!!!!!!

Posted May 22, 2013 10:48 am

DID YOU SAY THAT WHEN PACROID MADE OSCAR COME ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 147. DID you say that when Pacroid made Margo come down. Did you say that when Pac Fraud Knocked Out Roid told Cotto to come in at 147. Then when Cotto wanted a rematch at 154, Pacroid ran like a coward. YOU ARE A CLOWN

Posted May 22, 2013 5:36 pm 


Adrian

Hahahahaha …gonzo the great. !!!! Love it!fighting the prime version of himself …touthless

Posted May 22, 2013 4:07 pm 


te tumbo

i can recall the obits prior to Floyd’s bout v. the undefeated Corralles. it turned out to be one of his most impressive and explosive wins. i ran in to a couple of prominent boxers in the SoCal party circuit back in the 90s and early 2000s but i don’t recall ever running into DLH(?). of course, that could be because i couldn’t afford the same quality get-high. i did encounter some very bitter “exes” who i did my best to console. some of you may be surprised to find this out about me but underneath this ruff and tuff exterior, i’m very sensitive to the pain and needs of fine and sexy women. anyway, Floyd is #1 P4P and his standing concession is to plant himself and fight at his walking-around weight of 147lbs. otherwise, he would be abusing every jr. welter out there. instead he’s doing it to the entire welter division. Punkuiao* wanted none of that. not even for an unprecedented $25-$50 million payday and enduring P4P glory. now THAT’s cowardice. Floyd may be greedy (exceedingly smart?) but he’s no coward.

Posted May 22, 2013 3:48 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tark re-chortled: ” “…

Posted May 22, 2013 3:34 pm 


te tumbo

i didn’t think Mayweather looked that hot v. DLH. i didn’t think either of them deserved the “W”. DLH displayed more hunger and passion but Mayweather displayed more poise and craft. it should’ve been an underwhelming Draw but DLH never got the scorecard nod v. a prominent “American” opponent. not even after they admit to juicing for a bout that Mosley should’ve lost on the scorecards in the first place.

Posted May 22, 2013 3:27 pm 


te tumbo

Peterson did indeed panic once he felt the power of a glancing Matthysse punch (check those handwraps!). consequently, the superior fighter NOT boxer prevailed. it’s an established pattern in my favorite sport. you’ll never lose money abiding by this guiding principle. Fighters NOT boxers make Fights.

Posted May 22, 2013 3:24 pm 


te tumbo

Thanks MALACHI. i don’t usually if ever parade or haggle over my picks on these threads. after all, i don’t get paid to pick’em right or wrong. but considering it’s page 2 and a couple of arch-regs and rivals are bickering over my favorite sport, i just had to remind them what counts IF you are going to cite predictions to establish credibility. i’ve only ever claimed to know Fighters not necessarily boxers. skills and talent doesn’t always wins fights. it’s the reason that i was a certified Junior-Hater. i always recognized that prime Junior was virtually untouchable but i also suspected that he was desperately protecting a vulnerable chin. Tarver proved it. IMO, poise, maturity, grit, and determination are the most important qualities a fighter can have. a durable chin doesn’t hurt but it also won’t prevent the likes of Williams or Pacquiao* being planted face-first into the ring canvas. or Trout being thoroughly dominated by a smaller opponent. despite the gushing of Tark or Redmond over these fighters. the superior Fighter almost always wins.

Posted May 22, 2013 3:21 pm 


TARK

Ernie Enema Schnozzle… You’re a liar… The evidence is there to look at 20 to 30 posts I made on the Matthysse-Peterson fight over the last couple months… Go look over them… I never once said or implied that Peterson would out-box Matthysse… I said Matthysse would smash Peterson, destroy him, beat him, D him, or anyway the fight went Matthysse would be the winner… I said punchers beat brawlers and Peterson was a perfect style for Matthysse to have opportunities to hit him with everything and anything. Basic stuff all experts know.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:53 pm 


Tomato Can

Mayweather made the right choice in going up to 154 to face Delahoya. Delahoya was the established cash-cow. Facing Cotto, probably proved to him that he was better suited to fight at 147. Sure he can hang with anyone at 154, but is it really in his best interest? I don’t think so, but I’m sure many do. I think he should take on all comers at 147. I hope that happens.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:51 pm 


Tomato Can

Actually Peterson should have tried to outbox Matthysse. He was able to do that for one round. Once he got hit in the back of the head, and caught from the outside, he throught that out the window, and tried to stand and trade. At that point I hope we all knew what was going to take place… That was a good win for Matthysse, I hope he goes on to get good fights, he deserves it.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:43 pm 


Hidalgo

“I said Ortiz has no jab so his chances of winning were minimal. ” This is true.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:41 pm 


Hidalgo

“Hidalgos, hallucinating again “Canelo stay away from Floyd” Canelos leaden feet and relatively stiff style demands he try and use his bulk to get Floyd on the ropes ” Less swinging, more movement. Same thing he did against Trout. No hallucinations here.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:37 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tard chortled: “Sredmond…. You also thought Peterson was going to out-box Matthysse, so you’re no expert… ”

So did you on your various outcomes you posted BEFORE THE FACT to cover yourself. Another case of your worthless “Tarkisms”…

Posted May 22, 2013 2:29 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Great. My post doesn’t make proper sense seeing as only the first and third parts were published.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:10 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Let’s not forget that he’s already lost to a slow as molasses totally devoid of skill Mexican punch bag who’d been knocked spark unconscious four times by part time pastry chefs, unemployed lifeguards, and volunteer workers from the Guadalajara Zoo. Hell, a semi-retired shot to smithereens cadaverous drug fiend Oscar who was more interested in Livin’ La Vida Loca than he was in knuckling down to serious training whooped him silly in most people’s eyes.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:09 pm 


Bob Bontar

Shred: you are miss reading what I am saying. I was saying Floyd may go 158 in walk around mode!! Duh….

Posted May 22, 2013 2:05 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Thanks Adrian. I think it’s probably true though. lol

Posted May 22, 2013 2:05 pm 


malachi

well played te’tumbo

Posted May 22, 2013 1:56 pm 


Adrian

Never fought lower than 147* typo damn iPhone !!!

Posted May 22, 2013 1:40 pm 


chacos8

Canelo has nothing to do vs Floyd

Posted May 22, 2013 1:37 pm 


Adrian

Lol if I admit that Canelo is to big for mayweather than this guy says “no Canelo fought at ww before” lol as if mayweather never lose than 147 hahaha …it’s just like asking mayweather to drop and fight below 130 p because he fought at that weight before …hahahaha

Posted May 22, 2013 1:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Nope! But you CLEARLY read it with my tool in yours…”Seriously”

Posted May 22, 2013 1:27 pm 


seriously?

SRED, do you type this stuff with Floyds tool in your mouth, damn I bet that makes Boxy jealous.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, you bristle at the discussion of 154 not being FMJs best weight and your rebuttal is that he has fought there… Well Canelo has fought at 147 before!!! Floyd has never weighed the limit in the night of the bout meanwhile Canelo has made 147 previously… The point is your assertions can be applied to Canelo as well… Mayweathers 36, the body is obviously less flexible in terms of what it can comfortably do and tolerate… If the youngster needs every advantage physically and chronologically then perhaps it’s best he focuses on his division… Floyd’s had how many fights at 147 over the past 5 years vs 1 at 154???

Posted May 22, 2013 12:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, you’re the ultimate bandwagoneer you were the same fool who thought Ortiz was gonna pull a “Terry Norris” in Mayweather… Taking a flyer on Peterson being able to outbox a sometimes crude fighter like Matthyesee does not cause me any loss of sleep…Austin Trout fought Cotto coming off a LOSS and he’s bigger and more native to 154 than Cotto… Trouts another HUGE 154 pounder and kudos to him for getting the win… Like I said 60% of Trouts rep is based off a Mayweather leftover from the prior bout…Canelo showed good and bad pointed against Trout who like Canelo has ONLY beaten one World Class fighter in his life!!! As usual your amateurish view on boxing has you falling into the trap of using ANY other fighter being an approximation of Floyd Mayweather when there is no credible approximation of Floyd Mayweather when faced consistently with World Class competition…If you want to discus Compubox which is a highly subjective tool most stats favored Austin Trout and activity by a country mile…Canelos ONLY has a punchers chance largely based on his status as a LHW on fight night beyond that the Mayeather that schooled Guerrero will make him look slow and inept… I like Canelo but he’s been feasting on WW’s and a technically sound but light puncher like Trout… When he starts sucking wind Floyd will do
What he always does strike like a Cobra then disappear befor the return fire…HOLLA!!!!!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:25 pm 


TARK

Sredmond…. You also thought Peterson was going to out-box Matthysse, so you’re no expert…

Four simple questions for you… 1. Who punches harder Floyd or Canelo??? … 2. Who got his nose tapped with more sharp, blood spattering jabs from ATG 3-Division World Champion Miguel Cotto, Austin Trout, or Floyd??? … 3. Who landed the most damagng punches in the Canelo-Trout fight, Trout or Canelo??? 4. Who boxed Austin Trout more successfully, Cotto or Canelo???

When you answer those 4 questions you might have a clearer idea of how competitive this matchup is… Right now you’re deluding yourself, because nobody else is fooled by your biased non-expertise.

Sredmond, licking his lips in anticipation of Peterson giving Matthysse a boxing lesson…, “This is going to be fun.”

Posted May 22, 2013 12:07 pm 


mark

TAX WRITE OFF !!!! YOU ARE NEVER MORE LIKE GOD THAN WHEN YOU GIVE. WHY SO MANY SICK MINDS ON THIS SITE ???? REMEMBER YOU ARE GOD’S PRIZED POSSESSION .

Posted May 22, 2013 12:05 pm 


Adrian

*Lets see Wich boxer he demands must fight him next ..typo

Posted May 22, 2013 11:55 am 


Adrian

Lol …wow …ok is simple mayweather is small for 154 weight devision we got it.lets see the “dictator “of boxing demand to fight … Lol

Posted May 22, 2013 11:46 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgos, hallucinating again “Canelo stay away from Floyd” Canelos leaden feet and relatively stiff style demands he try and use his bulk to get Floyd on the ropes in the middle of the ring FMJ will look like Neo in the Matrix doing a paint job on that kid… And when his stamina wanes in Las Vegas that’s when the real ugly ensues, cruel accurate potshots, wildly missed punches, being smirked at his entire career culminating in the depressing knowledge that there was a 5 th dimension he never fought in… Canelos not even close to the ring General Floyd is….Get Real

Posted May 22, 2013 11:41 am 


mark

KEVIN DURANT KO’S MAYWEATHER . 1 MI . — PEOPLE HERE TALK CRAP ABOUT WHAT I NEED TO SAY ABOUT MAYWEATHER. BUT LET’S BE REAL PEOPLE NEED HELP AND MAYWEATHER HAS THE MONEY TO HELP. BETTER THAN GIVING TO STRIP CLUBS AND BURNING MONEY ON T.V ????? REMEMBER HERE THAT TALK CRAP IT COULD BE YOU OR I THAT LOST A KID . GOD REWARDS OBEDIENCE.

Posted May 22, 2013 11:40 am 


SREDMOND

Bob, clearly you’re not a fan of the facts Floyd Mayweathers fighting weights are the model of consistency he’s NEVER been 158 in the ring…His max was 151 against Oscar… He doesn’t “need” to fight at 154 to give Canelo a chance at getting on PPV… He can defend his WW belt to his hearts content… How do you fathom that a guy who was in diapers when Floyd began dominating can tell the most powerful fighter is boxing what to do?? This is not a Democracy, FMJ is the Saddam Hussein of boxing by virtue of having seized power…

Posted May 22, 2013 11:33 am 


PEEJ

People stop saying Floyd needs to defend his 154 title against Canelo. Canelo is the 154lb Champion period. He does not need Floyd’s title unless he wants Floyd’s Championship belt at 147. The fight will happen at 154 and if Floyd wins there will just be more excuses

Posted May 22, 2013 11:18 am 


Adrian

Lol gonzo that’s hilarious !

Posted May 22, 2013 10:56 am 


Hidalgo

Then, when the fight happens, Canelo should stay away from Floyd for the whole 12 rounds. Don’t even give him a chance to score a decisive victory. Keep backing away, riding his bicycle. Do his best to not give Floyd a chance to see him. Let the crowd and fans boo them. Let them walk out of the arena and turn off their televisions sets. After the fight is over, Canelo should make another public announcement: “I have given you what you asked for. I faced Floyd at 147 lbs. Even though it went against everything I believe in as a boxer, I fought him at the weight that he and YOU wanted.”

Posted May 22, 2013 10:51 am 


Hidalgo

“Floyd is now in a position to dictate terms. End of story. Yiu either agree with him terms and get your eraly retirement fight, or you pass up the once-in-a-lifetme opproruinty.”

If that’s the case, then Canelo should agree to fight Floyd at 147, then after signing the contract, make a public statement: “I only took this fight for the money. Floyd has demanded that I drop to 147 so that he will have a distinct physical advantage over me when we fight. It will be difficult for me to fight at my best because I have not fought at 147 in three years. In truth I am too big to fight at 147. Floyd knows this. So, the price I am paying for a possible loss is __Million. Now you know why I took the fight. Floyd, meanwhile, will have another great opportunity to keep his “0″ but everyone will still know that Floyd does not have the courage to fight me at my regular weight.”

Posted May 22, 2013 10:48 am 


Edd

Floyd will wait until he is stripped of his 154 strap in order to save face and not be embarrassed by voluntarily giving up the strap. You see, because if he did, it would send message that he rather give up the strap then give the impression that he does not have the testicular fortitude to fight any of the other champions or top 2′s of that division. Eerily similar to what went on about him supposedly wanting to fight Pac.

Posted May 22, 2013 10:33 am 


Bob Blowtar

You got the beat Bob. Yah man, tell it like it is.

Posted May 22, 2013 10:17 am 


Bob Bontar

Shredog: The only pain I feel is a pain in the ass. And you are a pain in the ass. Floyd needs to defend his 154 title and not whine about Saul walking at 170 lbs. on Friday nights. If he walks at 170 then he is slow and the Great and Rich and Wonderful and WW Champ (WTF) should be very fast at 158 which he maybe walking at. Floyd is the co-owner of the WBA Super Welterweight Belt and he needs to defend it with the other co-owner of the same belt….Saul. It doesn’t matter how many women Floyd has hit or beaten, he needs to step up and be a man and defend the weight class he represents as his title. So stfu about little pee pee’s creds, because down deep he is just a little twerp!! A sawed off piece of slime. Step up Floyd and be a man. What is 7 pounds anyway to the Great and Almighty Little Floyd Fauntleroid.

Posted May 22, 2013 10:15 am 


SREDMOND

Bob Bontar, Floyd doesn’t have to do anything… Does he look enamored with 154? What about his career suggests he loses sleep over that division? His 2 fights in 17 years? Both of which were followed by an immediate return to his best weight class of 147 pounds.. There’s nowhere for Floyd to step up to he’s at the pinnacle of boxing in EVERY regard imaginable… Let me break it down for you CONSENSUS P4P # 1, WW World Champion, Highest paid athlete in the world 2 Yeats running doing 72 mins worth of actual fighting, and 44-0…. When you find me another guy in today’s boxing landscape with those credentials please inform us… He’s the guy everyone wants and you need to digest that pain..!

Posted May 22, 2013 8:27 am 


SREDMOND

It’s pretty intense to realize you have a full blown hero worshiper on here? It’s strange but oddly flattering…When your arguments crush and hit home guys will change their screen names for you… This is how it’s done guys :)

Posted May 22, 2013 8:20 am 


MJames

I don’t care who Floyd fights as long as it isn’t that undeserving clown Amir Khan.

Posted May 22, 2013 6:31 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Edit> crippled from the waist down

Posted May 22, 2013 5:46 am 


Gonzo of Nazareth

How many times does one have to write their post before it appears? I have legions and legions of fans who wait with bated breath to feast their eyes on my next post you know. Some of them are very poorly too, crippled from the waste down and trapped in their hospital beds all day with nothing better to do than to try and escape their misery perusing forums such as this one. Everytime one of you mods refuse to publish one of my posts you don’t hurt me you know, you hurt the sick, crippled and infirm. Stop watching your Scat-Pron DVDs and hitch your pants back up and take a few minutes to mull over just how much of a negative effect your actions are having on their lives.

Posted May 22, 2013 5:44 am 


Adios Los Juevos

Callese puto…

Posted May 22, 2013 5:16 am 


Hola

Oiga, no sé de qué escribe pero sí tengo un teclao configurado al idioma español. Cambié la configuración (es fácil engendro del diablo). “Chango boy” …ignorante pocho de mierda ud ni sabe escribir en español… deje ya de escribir estupideces. Creo que el chango será la madre la suya. Deje de deshonrar a los latinos. ‘Qué poca madre’ jaja.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:47 am 


SREDMOND = Hola a todos = Public Enemy

nice copy & paste from the spanish translator sites. i dont believe you have a spanish keyboard for a second. you have deceived everyone on ESB but not me. good try though chango boy i know all about u

Posted May 22, 2013 1:16 am 


Bob Bontar

They need to unify the WBA Super Welterweight Titles. Alvarez has one and
Mayweather has one. Floyd has to defend there because he has a Title there. He does not have to campaign there but he has to defend there. Either sh-t or get off the WBA pot. Saul will be defending there so Floyd should step up or shut up. Take his name off the WBA Champ roster then if he will not defend. Strip the title and give it to Saul. Then Floyd can stay down in the Welterweight middle, and count his money there.

Posted May 22, 2013 1:10 am 


Havoc

I still have to see Floyd uses the 8 oz gloves. Dang his gloves looks too big all the time.

Posted May 22, 2013 1:00 am 


Hola

¿? ¿de qué hablas señor? jajajajaj

Posted May 22, 2013 12:59 am 


SREDMOND = Hola a todos = Public Enemy

I dont drink mono negro. must be nice & cozy there all by your lonesome in that tiny aprtment in brooklyn. i can read your mind thru the computer & you the great deceiver!!! its close to your bed time so tlk later you fake little POS.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:56 am 


SREDMOND

Havoc or Adrian, as it pertains to gloves it’s about who’s using them an gloves are only one element…

Posted May 22, 2013 12:40 am 


Q

SREDMOND: I think GGG is probably better than Canelo all the same, but he still hasn’t stepped it up yet. What they have to do with FMJ… I don’t know… but yeah… GGG is stepping up for the Macklin bout, although Macklin is coming off an injury and surgery and such, so it’s a step up and perfect timing. Let’s see what happens.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:39 am 


Hola a todos

Havoc: 10 oz gloves slow your hands down make your arms heavier…. especially when you’re a natural Jr. WW like FMJ. It’s quite simple no isn’t it?

Posted May 22, 2013 12:37 am 


SREDMOND

GGG is a guy who looks good against the caliber of fighters he has faced… He and Canelo BOTH barely have ANY Worls class opponents in their division on their respective resumes.. How does this tie in with Mayweather?? Who are GGG’s best wins?? Let’s hear it? Ishida? Rosado coming up from 154?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!! This dudes just starting out..

Posted May 22, 2013 12:37 am 


Hola a todos

“I have studied his punctuation and writing style for years and can spot him a mile away. Trust me this is 100% truth. Just facts” – jajajajajajjaja….. and then you call someone “no life” jajajaja…. go to sleep dude you’re drunk.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:36 am 


Adrian

As i said My post two hours ago right here “Yeah for some dictating is fine if it suits their hero…lol
And also I swear the same may fans that are now saying Canelo should fight ggg and get slaughtered just until a month ago were saying ggg is not a proven fighter and is overated but now suddenly the same fans are saying ggg is the man??? Lol what changed?”

Posted May 22, 2013 12:34 am 


SREDMOND = Hola a todos = Public Enemy

This clown is the GREAT DECEIVER. He’s a super fast typist, good writer, and the biggest multi-poster on ESB. He even writes comments to himself to try and cover his tracks. What an miserable OCD head case with no life. I have studied his punctuation and writing style for years and can spot him a mile away. Trust me this is 100% truth. Just facts

Posted May 22, 2013 12:32 am 


Bob Bontar

If Floyd is tough enough to take the 154 Belt, then he should be tough enough to defend the 154 Belt. If Canelo makes the 154 weigh in, then who cares what he is at fight night. Floyd has the same options as Canelo has. Hydrate and eat whoppers or drink Soy and eat a soy burger. So what. Man up Floyd, defend your 154 Crown or go down as a Queen of drag.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:30 am 


Havoc

Sredmond- 8 oz gloves vs. 10 oz gloves… What do you think do more damage?

Posted May 22, 2013 12:29 am 


Adrian

Hola > why are you Insulting me? Can’t you just state your point without insulting people?
And if you want to call me out I can give you my adrese and show you how “homsexsual” I am ….I never insult anyone here but if you really want to call he out than I am all for it becaus I shut people like you all the time in real life …just tell me what do you want to do ,call me names behind a keyboard or try face to face

Posted May 22, 2013 12:29 am 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao stopping Cotto 10 pounds UNDER where Mayweather fought him was a good win.., but Floyd hardly went life or death he pounded Cottos face till it was good and swollen winning a solid UD at age 35… Mayweather took Hattons 0 and 50% of his confidence according to Ricky… Pacquiao could NEVER get a solid win against Marquez and was laid clean out by a 39 year old fighter… Meanwhile Mayweather could beat Marque with one hand… The only serious boxer Manny faced has ruined his career for the time being, an OLD man at that… Again Pacs a fallen star meanwhile Floyd’s the toast of the town showing he can still dominate at 36…

Posted May 22, 2013 12:28 am 


Havoc

I’m surprise esb haven’t block me yet … Huh…. Must be running low on boxing fans….

Posted May 22, 2013 12:26 am 


Hola a todos

Havoc – just go to sleep man, you’re done.. it’s ok. Peace.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:26 am 


Havoc

B red – you don’t skip yours okay!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:25 am 


Havoc

Bred – everyday boy

Posted May 22, 2013 12:23 am 


Hola a todos

Adrian: two hours ago? you need to go to sleep weird ass. Peace.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:21 am 


B Red

Havoc,you need to take your medication stupid

Posted May 22, 2013 12:20 am 


Adrian

Hahahahaha as I said just two hours ago it won’t take long when they will bash triple g hahahaha it didn’t take two hours to do so ..wow !!!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:19 am 


Hola a todos

Trainer of the Year Robert Garcia talks about who he thinks is the greatest fighter of all time (Floyd Joy Mayweather Jr.)

Posted May 22, 2013 12:17 am 


Adrian

Hola,yeah PAC beat the after mayweather but they are irrelevant to you but fir maywether to beat cotto years after is rrelevant right? Lol also PAC beat all those you mention mayweather beat AND THEN SOME MORE while mayweather “retired” hahahaha

Posted May 22, 2013 12:17 am 


Hola a todos

youtube. com/watch?v=p3B5YLsKwZE

Posted May 22, 2013 12:16 am 


Hola a todos

FMJ Vs. Canelo before*

Posted May 22, 2013 12:16 am 


PEEJ

Well see you clump all Floyd fans together. GGG is the real deal from what I have seen and he can cement that claim after dispatching of Macklin. But the fact is GGG has not fought the greatest fighters as of yet. But he is proving himself nicely. I like Matthysse much much more though. But that is because his resume is much better.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:13 am 


Hola a todos

Adrian: that’s false, people were talking about FMJ Vs. Cotto before that because Canelo was calling the Jr. WW’s name before that bout. That didn’t start after Trout, and people were ALREADY talking about him fighting GGG, Martinez and the likes, and after blowing up to 172 on fight night, there is no reason why he shouldn’t fight those guys up there. I’d like to see GGG Vs. Ward… Ward gives him a boxing lesson.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:13 am 


Hola a todos

Adrian: Jajajajaj…. GGG beats FMJ at 150 with a rehydration clause? you think so? Thinking he’d beat Canelo isn’t the same as thinking he’s proven. don’t confuse yourself.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:11 am 


Hola a todos

Havoc: He’s not legit because he hasn’t lost, makes sense (yeah, he’s like a movie he’s so great, that’s why they calling him the greatest boxer of all time). Buenas noches marica.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:09 am 


Adrian

Hola —I also think triple g beats Canelo beats Martinez and beats mayweather even if he droped at 150 but I am just stating how some mayweather die hard fans were saying triple g wasnt that good and he is very overated just until a month ago and the reason they were saying this is becaus triple g called out mayweather Martinez and ward but as soon as Canelo vs maywether talk started after Canelo beat trout suddenly the same mayweather fans are saying Canelo should beat the man triple g .. Lol so now suddenly triple g is the man to beat and is good in the eyes of those mayweather fans .. Hypocrites!!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:09 am 


PEEJ

How did Floyd go life and death with Cotto? Pac got hit more times in 10 rounds than Floyd did in 12. Floyd got a bloody nose, every Floyd hater got excited about that. Dude you can get a bloody nose from running to long. So what it is a fight. Pac got his ear drum busted which is worse than a bloody nose. Really giving a lot of credit for an Oscar whoopin, did you see Oscar fight Forbes? Everybody knew Oscar was done, that is why Roach took the fight and he has already said that in interviews. It was just good business sense. So I would say Pac cherry picked Oscar. Ok Pac KOd Hatton, Floyd KOd hatton, does it really matter how fast it happened. They both knocked him out. Plain and simple. Pac is a power puncher and Floyd is a boxing/defensive wizard.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:08 am 


Hola a todos

Adrian: Floyd fought all those fighters first except for Cotto, who Floyd fought as the much smaller man mass wise. Mosley Vs. Paquiao was an awful fight, this is after SSM lost to floyd and got a draw against Mora. ODH fought FMJ a year prior and at 154, he was weight drained when he fought MP, and that wasn’t life of death, it was a sparring session and a 9-3 bout realistically. They tried to rob Floyd in that bout… but he’s too good to be robbed. life or death? ajajjaja. troll.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:08 am 


Havoc

Undefeated only happens in movies!!! If Floyd is for real and all his fights are legit then the phrase nobody is perfect is not true!!!! Lol!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:07 am 


Hola a todos

SREDMOND: Being too old or too small or both don’t matter when it’s FLoyd to these people. That’s simply and truly because he’s probably the greatest of all time. Just as the Garcia’s say he is. He could be 40 and moving up to fight a Light Heavyweight, and it wouldn’t matter….

Posted May 22, 2013 12:04 am 


Havoc

Hola- no one! Floyd resume is the best!…I may say he really is a good cherry picker!!! When he picks em he picks em really good! Mr. Perfect! The best!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:03 am 


Adrian

Hahahahaha. …fu$$ haters ..pick and chose fights lol
Paqiao stoped cotto stoped odh who mayweather went life and death with
You want more examples???? Hatton 2rounds ? Mosley droped while he almost put mayweather to sleep hahaha ….

Posted May 22, 2013 12:03 am 


Hola a todos

“if Floyd “has no talent” then why have 18 current or former World Champions unable to beat him in 5 weight classes and win 3 lineal Championships in 5 weight classes…” – Don’t ask these types of questions, they can’t even comprehend it, but Robert Garcia, Mickey Garcia, Paulie Malignaggi, all say that FMJ is THEE greatest boxer of all time. The people who know, know.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:02 am 


SREDMOND

Havoc, you’re just a liar Cotto was winning and Floyd has to fight hard to win… Floyd’s 36 at what point are guys attacking Aging fighter? When he’s 59??? Floyd’s an OLD fighter but he can still execute…I don’t see you hoes upset at him facing a 22 year old who wants to be 22 pounds heavier when they scrap???? The mans 36 and guys still are not happy with that undefeated record that genius rubs in their noses…!! 44-0

Posted May 22, 2013 12:02 am 


Hola a todos

Adrian – canelo is a coward and GGG beats him. What are you in disagreement with again?

Posted May 22, 2013 12:00 am 


Hola a todos

Havoc: Name me 15 fighters all time with better resume’s than FMJ. I’ll wait. *Nobody can ever do this*

Posted May 21, 2013 11:59 pm 


Adrian

Yeah Canelo should fight triple g because he is the man to beat now , but the same haters were claiming just until a month ago triple g is not a proven fighter and overated hahahaha
Triple g was a threat at someone because he was calling out everyone ,ward up Canelo down and mayweather …lets see what future brings us and see if the same haters will change their opinion about triple g ability ….

Posted May 21, 2013 11:59 pm 


Hola a todos

Havoc: BS, Floyd fights his guys coming of there biggest wins and best performances. You people will always find an excuse to bash. Who cares, Robert Garcia and Mickey Garcia said it best…. Floyd Mayweather Jr is the greatest of all time. Jaja. Hey, they said it, it’s on tape.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:58 pm 


Havoc

Sredmond- see you telling me 43 failed….I’m telling you 30 taxi drivers and 13 well cherry picked!

Posted May 21, 2013 11:58 pm 


PEEJ

lol, yeah that is funny. Which fighter barely made it out alive in there fights before fighting Floyd? Oh and how many fighters where coming off losses or looked terrible and then Pac fought them? See yall are making me out to be a Floyd lover and a Pac hater. I like Pac and I am a fan of Floyd but I am in love with boxing. And all I can do is spit facts to ya

Posted May 21, 2013 11:57 pm 


Hola a todos

Adrian: Oh nooooo, Floyd didn’t give ODH a rematch after that sparring match where he won at least 9 of 12 rounds. You’re drunk go away. Cotto had his best chance to beat Floyd at 154, as an acclimated (albeit small) Jr. MW against and aged and going to prison FMJ. Cotto’s camp declined a fight with him. FMJ won 11 of 12 against SSM after he destroyed glove cheat AM…. he also beat Cotto after he stopped AM. Margarito, loses to the guys that FMJ beats. He’s like another Berto… but only Berto never loaded his gloves. Manny declined that bout. The only thing you can mention would probably be Paul Williams, that fight probably should have happened, he’d also beaten AM the glove cheat.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:56 pm 


PEEJ

Nobody was bashing Cotto, at least I wasn’t. But Floyd tried to fight Cotto and Arum said no. That is a fact. Yes Mosley got to fight Floyd for demolishing Margacheato. Whats your point? He was a cheater and should of been banned for life. But once again as Tomato Can said, Arum is there promoter and that fight can never happen with Arum in the picture. But Floyd tried to fight Cotto and Arum said no he was not ready. That is a fact. Williams could not stay in one weight class. That was his fault and his promoters fault and then the self proclaimed most feared man in boxing which was very laughable. Yes you gave names that you think Floyd ducked and I gave you the facts on why he didn’t duck those fighters.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd fought both Mosley and Marquez and he sure as hell did NOT get pathetically knocked out like Margarito or Pacquiao… He dusted BOTH guys who smoked those two with EASE… PAC Man got knocked cold by one of Floyd’s easiest foes!!!! WOW!!! You have really shown me how GREAT FMJ really is Adrian!!

Posted May 21, 2013 11:55 pm 


Havoc

Sredmomds- He cherry picks! The Champions he beats are either bearly make it alive in thier previous fight or old past thier prime and or shot fighters… He wait and pick.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:54 pm 


Adrian

Now we want too see Canelo or trout ” fall like a tree” and claim superiority over them …lol

Posted May 21, 2013 11:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Havoc “his skills” are fake well he proved 43 other guys skills were even “faker” so he’s done us a public service Lol… Thank God Floyd has the persona to polarize and sell fights the last thing we need are more Jesus freaks who can’t sell a fight or build a fan base..!!
Lol

Posted May 21, 2013 11:52 pm 


Adrian

“Others fall like trees” lol they fall like trees because they fight eachother …!

Posted May 21, 2013 11:52 pm 


Havoc

Tomato can- yeah once every two years!

Posted May 21, 2013 11:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Havoc, if Floyd “has no talent” then why have 18 current or former World Champions unable to beat him in 5 weight classes and win 3 lineal Championships in 5 weight classes… Floyd would have been a fool to abandon his strategies they have made him the most well paid athlete in the world… You seem angry with Floyd? As if he somehow hurt your feelings…??? Do you know him or I you hate him via TV?

Posted May 21, 2013 11:49 pm 


Adrian

Tomato can > I know what you are saying and belive me I criticize paqiao here many times especially when he fought cotto at catch weight at 145 and not 147 ?? Wtf was that??? I know they tried to weaken cotto even though paqiao would probably win anyway but PAC team wasn’t sure …but also as a fan of boxing I can’t read comments here when mayweather fans become his lawyers and protect him not only his record wich is good no doubd but they bash every other possible opponent of his over the years ….
I dont need a circus or “assumption ” who beats who I want to see it in the ring that’s all I want !!!!

Posted May 21, 2013 11:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Dudes are corny, “why didn’t Mayweather fight Cotto when he was undefeated” why the hell didn’t Pacquaio fight him when he was undefeated…??? And why does Floyd only get credit if a boxers undefeated or on the perceived best day of his life… This rationale is a DIRECT contradiction of the bitter and venomous Adrian desire to see Floyd face Pacquiao who had 3 losses and 2 draws to Cottos 2 losses at the time the May/PAC was at its peak…Why did Austin Trout fight Cotto direct off a loss to Floyd and why is Canelo discussing Cotto as a Mayweather alternative coming off 2 losses??? Again Adrian and others want that loss and they are fuming that FMJ has prospered while Pacquiao and others are falling like trees in the forest.. Floyd is a SMARTER, GREATER fighter, and better businessman than all of them… Truth is these guys despise Mayweather for the same reason that ODH does his will is indomitable… No one says that Cotto got Mayweather with jail hanging over his head, no one says Guerrero was 7 years younger in his prime facing FMJ post jail… No one says Marquez fought him after 21 months of inactivity or that Ortiz was 10 years younger and 14 pounds heavier…. All you’ll hear about is they have to be on their perfect day whereas Floyd has overcome all his adversities in the ring… Hallmark o Greatness while the rest complain and LOSE…

Posted May 21, 2013 11:43 pm 


Tomato Can

Adrian, I don’t hate Pac, but his fans are some of the most blinded fans I’ve ever seen. They come here and almost preach about Pacquiao. I’ve never seen anything like it. I guess you could call them Pacquiao Freaks.. Another thing common with all of them, is they refuse to recognize that Arum never did business with any fighters he didn’t have opptions on, he constantly came up with excuses, and even lies regarding the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight. Now all that crap came full circle, Manny got KTFO, and now he wants PED, tests, and not one Pacquiao fan has stepped up to say, hey maybe we were wrong, way back then… And then you fools still have the Audacity to come here and make the same rants as always

Posted May 21, 2013 11:39 pm 


Adrian

Ohhhhh ok but it is not fair to bash cotto Williams margarito paqiao and say they weren’t “worthy” of fighting mayweather but then praise him when he wins against cotto years later ..wtf is that????

Posted May 21, 2013 11:38 pm 


Adrian

If Douglas never fought Tyson we would never guess in our wildest dreams that Douglas would ko Tyson !

Posted May 21, 2013 11:35 pm 


Tomato Can

Who was Cotto fighting under when he was the supposed mat at 147? Ahhh, Bob Arum… Once again the Arum factor goes unreconized by many fans…

Posted May 21, 2013 11:32 pm 


Adrian

Ok tomato can > we all know you hate PAC for years now its nothing new , but the question was about mayweather avoiding the best at ww when it was full of young undefited champions at the time when mayweather joined that weight class by fighting baldomir ,peej asked who mayweather ducked I answered him ! History can’t be made by “assuming” what would have happened unfortunately ….

Posted May 21, 2013 11:30 pm 


Tomato Can

Havoc, unlike Pacquiao fans, most fans don’t idolize and celebrate any fighters. We don’t need a fighter to have a certian personality inorder for us to recognize their talent.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:30 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, another thing that they will never acknowledge is the Arum factor. Actually Marquez was the only fighter, that Arum didn’t have his claws hooked into that Manny faced over the past 3 years.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:25 pm 


Adrian

Also why he didnt fight cotto then at welterweight when cotto was a man to beat at ww ? Or fight margarito when margarito beat cotto ??? It would have been a big money fight or not? So what was the reason for him to not challenge him? Money ? I don’t think so ? And why not fight cotto ?

Posted May 21, 2013 11:23 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, we couldn’t say nothing to them 3 years ago, and nothing can be said to them now. Even though everything has changed since then. IT’s really pretty comical, but oh well…

Posted May 21, 2013 11:21 pm 


Adrian

Heyyyyyyyyyh peejjjj —- what a f@@@ are you saying ????
So Williams and maragarito weren’t worthy of fighting them because floyed knew this at the time????lol but baldomir was right???? Hahahahahahaha forget about who beat who , yo asked who floyed ducked I told you who.!!!!
But when Mosley beat margarito suddenly Mosley gets a chance for what for beating margarito that you say he lost to Williams ??? So why was so special for Mosley to get a shot at mayweather just becaus he beat margarito that you say wasn’t worthy off fighting???
Listen to yourself ,every opponent that mayweather didn’t fight you bash them but praise the ones he beat … Lol isn’t that objective

Posted May 21, 2013 11:15 pm 


PEEJ

In 2010 the split wasn’t the problem, they had already agreed on 50/50. As a matter of fact everything was agreed apon but he didn’t want to take the test. Why did Floyd agree to everything Pac wanted but Pac couldn’t take the test? From then on Floyd was selling way more PPV, that is where the real money comes in so of course he would demand a bigger chunk. That is just economics. Why did Pac turn down 40 mil? More than he would of ever made. He decided lot fight for less than 10 mil in a loss to Bradley and then proceeded to be KOd by Marquez. That made zero business sense.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:13 pm 


Tomato Can

All is well now. Pacquiao is demanding PED tests for his fights. Who would have thunk it?

Posted May 21, 2013 11:11 pm 


PEEJ

Just because he has defense and doesn’t come straight in like Pac you think he is boring. News flash, Pac got KOd cause he came in face first. Oh also you do realize for a boring fighter he sure does sell a lot of PPVs

Posted May 21, 2013 11:10 pm 


Adrian

Heeeeellllooooo peej…… You asked for an answer …you got it !
Now answer me back , why floyed didn’t fight those I mentioned? Was it the money ? I don’t think so because they would all bring more money then baldomir!
Than paqiao you are claiming he didn’t want to take the test ? Ok why was the the split the problem? Paqiao still was a p4p why not fight him??????

Posted May 21, 2013 11:08 pm 


Havoc

Peej-and Floyd said no

Posted May 21, 2013 11:06 pm 


PEEJ

Funny how Pac declined to take the drug test when he had several opportunities to fight Floyd but now there is zero chance of him fighting Floyd he all of a sudden is wanting to take the drug test. Sounds like Pac should be answering his fans, not Floyd being accused of ducking Pac.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:02 pm 


Adrian

Peej> let me answer you right now who mayweather ducked.
1.williams
2.paqiao
3.cotto when cotto was undefited
4. Odl retired and didn’t get him a reamatch
5.margarito when may steped up to ww and tough baldomir
If you claim margarito wasn’t worth it you are wrong , he beat Martinez ,got a sd against Williams when he was undefited … So you can’t tell me cotto margarito Williams were weaker than baldomir at ww when floyed fought baldomir and then retired ,why is that?

Posted May 21, 2013 11:01 pm 


Dino

Try this, get your neighbor or friend at work that weighs 25 pounds more than you, now tussle with him for a bit, you will see for yourself how much stronger he is and how much heavier he feels. This what Floyd will have to deal with, in addition to that Canelo is 22 years old. Not in the same weight class period. Just because Canelo can dry himself out to 154 does not mean he is a 154 pounder. He is a 160 pounder easy. Floyd knows this and so does RS and GBP. Big risk for Floyd.

Posted May 21, 2013 10:57 pm 


Adrian

Lol havoc .. You are so right exept the part you say mayweather will beat them after ,it’s more like mayweather and his fans will ” assume” he will beat them and they are not worthy of fighting them anymore … Remember paqiao ?

Posted May 21, 2013 10:53 pm 


PEEJ

Havoc, basically you are a Floyd hater. Every fighter Floyd has faced was coming off a very good win. Almost all of the fighters where holding a belt, or was listed on the P4P list. Now I know that the list is mythical but it still holds water. You say he is a cherry picker because he makes most fights look easy. Who has Floyd ducked since you say he is a cherry picker? I have asked this questions many times and nobody can provide an answer. So please let me know

Posted May 21, 2013 10:51 pm 


Havoc

Ggg vs. Canelo if it happens I’m pretty sure Floys will be watching and hoping that this two will beat each other up pretty good like Cotto and Margarito so that who ever will come out alive Fliyd will finish it and claim he is the greatest! It’s like beating up a disable person! See Floyd smart! Fans not so smart!

Posted May 21, 2013 10:40 pm 


Adrian

Yeah for some dictating is fine if it suits their hero…lol
And also I swear the same may fans that are now saying Canelo should fight ggg and get slaughtered just until a month ago were saying ggg is not a proven fighter and is overated but now suddenly the same fans are saying ggg is the man??? Lol what changed?

Posted May 21, 2013 10:32 pm 


Tomato Can

Ha ha, many fighters dream of being in Mayweathers position. Any future fighters that are fortunate to get to Mayweathers position will have their own set of hater’s who’ll never accept that not matter what they say that fighter earned his stripes. It happens everytime…

Posted May 21, 2013 10:25 pm 


Havoc

Floyd ain’t fighting the best!…but he is the best (cherry picker)!

Posted May 21, 2013 10:08 pm 


Havoc

Kid Blast- you are right! If Floyd can beat you or can’t buy you (to take a dive) he won’t fight you…Floyd fool a lot of you….he dictates everything!

Posted May 21, 2013 9:58 pm 


B Red

Kid Blast has the beat. I wanna see Gennafy slaughter Canelo, ya dig

Posted May 21, 2013 9:30 pm 


B Red

Isuoldersmallwegotafight, no i didnt know that in LA, im from Ny, its seems like there fighting over drug territory

Posted May 21, 2013 9:26 pm 


Kid Blast

Floyd is now in a position to dictate terms. End of story. Yiu either agree with him terms and get your eraly retirement fight, or you pass up the once-in-a-lifetme opproruinty.

Against GGG, you get slaughtered and mugged. Against F;loyd you get schooled and walk away to fight another day.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:23 pm 


Kid Blast

mark , :twisted:

Posted May 21, 2013 9:16 pm 


PEEJ

Canelo was calling out Floyd before the Cotto fight. So that holds no water there.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:06 pm 


Isuoldorsmallwegotafight

B Red you don’t know The Mexicans have them running scared they were so terrified that they had to get the FBI to help them arrest those 18th St Bangers from killing them

Posted May 21, 2013 8:48 pm 


Adrian

Peej> Canelo call out mayweather because he fought And took a belt from cotto at 154???

If mayweather thinks Canelo is to big for him at 154 then he shouldnt ask anything else he should just stop talking about possible Canelo fight and that’s it!

Note to die hard mayweather fans: stop bashing every boxer who is a possible mayweather live opponent ,its somthing else if you believe in your favorite boxer but bashing the opponent and going after their race just because its a live opponent is so low !

Posted May 21, 2013 8:44 pm 


mark

DON’T TALK FOR MR MAYWEATHER LET HIM SHOW US HOW MUCH HE REALLY CARES. (MONEY OR GOD’S PEOPLE ) MAYBE SOME YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS OR ARE FAMILY MEMBERS WERE HURT ??? HOW MANY KIDS DIE ?( 20 ) GOD HAS BLESS MAYWEATHER TO GIVE MORE THAN OTHER AND TONIGHT HE MAY BE SITTING HOME WITH HIS FEET UP ? STAND UP AND GIVE MR MAYWEATHER . IT COULD OF BEEN ONE OF YOUR KIDS ????? WHICH IS GIVEN MY GOD CAN BE TAKEN AWAY .

Posted May 21, 2013 8:43 pm 


B Red

Mark is a troll and hater, ignore him Peej

Posted May 21, 2013 8:36 pm 


mark

KEVIN DURANT KO MAYWEATHER GIVES 1 MI……. STEP UP MR MAYWEATHER.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:32 pm 


B Red

Gennady vs Canelo, Golden boy make it happen!!!!!

Posted May 21, 2013 8:30 pm 


mark

LAST TIME I SAW ON T.V HIS WAS GIVING SANDWICHES OUT IN VEGAS. I THINK HE COULD DO MORE . YOUR MORE LIKE GOD WHEN YOU GIVE….. LET’S SEE ???? HOW MUCH DID MAYWEATHER MAKE ON HIS LAST FIGHT…….

Posted May 21, 2013 8:28 pm 


B Red

:twisted:

Posted May 21, 2013 8:27 pm 


Fight Aficionado

The race baiting in this thread is pretty comical. Unfortunately I don’t have time to read all 189 posts, since I have a life and the Giants are about to play here in SF.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:26 pm 


mark

YOU ARE MORE LIKE GOD WHEN YOU GIVE . HELP MR . MAYWEATHER SHOW US BOXING FAN’S YOU ARE MORE THAN A BOXER .

Posted May 21, 2013 8:18 pm 


mark

WHERE THERE IS NO VISION,PEOPLE WILL PERISH ?? OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT DETERMINE YOUR POTENTIAL.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:15 pm 


PEEJ

Heavyweights are much different when fighting fighters bigger or smaller. I like Roy Jones but he chose the weakest belt holder in Ruiz. He had a chance to fight Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis and he chose not too. So you can’t use those excuses. And Canelo called Floyd out. That’s why he is saying come to 147 and we can fight. But the fight will happen and it will happen at 154. Only problem is if Floyd wins then folks will still come out with the same lame excuses that people always say.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:13 pm 


mark

LET TALK ABOUT HOW KEVIN DURANT GIVE 1 MIL TO HELP OTHERS> LET MR MAYWEATHER STAND UP FOR BOXING FANS AND GIVE ???? WHAT’S HIS NICK NAME ((((((((((MONEY ))))))))))))))) WHAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT

Posted May 21, 2013 8:05 pm 


Adrian

It is nothing new for someone to fight a much bigger boxer …
Jack Johnson fought midgets back in a day sa e as primo carnera , jack depsey as a small fighter manage to stop almost everyone big or small ,klitchko fight usually smaller fighters as did Lewis too , Tyson managed to stop most of his opponent as a smaller haveyweight
Roy jones beat Ruiz ,Duran fought much biger guys then him and was pretty sucssesful ..on and on and on …

Posted May 21, 2013 7:56 pm 


Adrian

Beno…and since when being droped won you fights and not change anything during a fight especially knowing you are behind scorecard ????
And as far as I know trout is the same size as Canelo so what’s the problem….

We have to stop pick and chose arguments when it comes to weight limit , the rules are the rules and as long as the rules are being followed there should be any complaining there.

If mayweather think is small for Canelo than that’s ALL FINE
But he should stop accusing or demanding Canelo for something that he can’t do …if they can’t fight they can’t fight ,let’s just stop the bs then and box!!!!!!!!!

Posted May 21, 2013 7:50 pm 


PEEJ

I agree. I though Trout won the fight but it was close to go either way.

Posted May 21, 2013 7:46 pm 


Adrian

Q wrote> “Canelo is a coward and his fans are lowlifes.” Wow the same thing he was saying about paqiao and his fans also about klitchko and his fans …hmmmmm I wonder why ???

Q . Why is Canelo a”coward “??? Why is paqiao a coward ?

Posted May 21, 2013 7:43 pm 


Beno

@ Adrian..since when did dropping a guy mean you won the fight? Canelo did not beat Trout and yes the scoring did affect the outcome of the fight. And I believe Canelo should be fighting boxers his size but I understand that boxing is a business and so he needs to do what he needs to do. But, same should apply to Floyd.

Posted May 21, 2013 7:42 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

And where the hell is my post?

Posted May 21, 2013 7:34 pm 


Gonzo of Nazareth

Hail Satan!

Posted May 21, 2013 7:33 pm 


Havoc

If Floyd can’t beat em or pay em (to take a dive) Floyd wont fight em! That’s the absolute facts!!!!

Posted May 21, 2013 7:27 pm 


Adrian

O now canelos win against trout was because off open scoring ?? Hahahahahaha
And who is saying this ? Surprise mayweather lawyer fans hahahaha …and is otherway around because if open scoring helped anyone it should have helped trout because he saw he was losing a fight and didnt change a thing …
When trout beat cotto the same “fans” were saying Canelo will duck Trout because he is big and if he wants a fight with mayweather he should get past trout ,and now they are blaming Open scoring ? Yeah like open scoring made Canelo drop trout hahahahahahaha

Posted May 21, 2013 6:56 pm 


mark

LOT’S RESPECT FOR ALL THAT SET FOOT INTO THE RING ! BUT , I STILL THINK CANELO IS NOT READY FOR MAYWEATHER. I AM NOT THE BIGGEST MAYWEATHER FAN FOR ONE REASON ,BECAUSE I THINK HE CHERRY PICKS AND DOSE NOT READY CARE FOR HIS FAN’S OR THE SPORT OF BOXING. I FEEL MAYWEATHER HAS HURT BOXING BY NOT GIVING THE FAN’S THE SUPER FIGHT (PACMAN) I THINK MAYWEATHER CAN BEAT PACMAN AND ALL OTHERS BUT HIS HEART IS IN THE WRONG PLACE .

Posted May 21, 2013 6:27 pm 


te tumbo

“it’s not personal …it’s just the situation, and the people who are doing this, happen to be the Mexicans” who i’ve established were here first (Wtf are we now? “white”?!?) and never left, i.e., it’s personal. HIStory is that the land was purchased fair and square. FACTual history documents an unjust war and an offer Mexico couldn’t refuse while its capitol was occupied by U.S. armies. Ironically, Southern senators were most opposed to this war since they knew that Mexico was unalterably anti-slavery, which would tilt the balance in favor of the northern states. the southwest belongs to Raza. we’re willing to share but under NO circumstances will we forfeit our cultural birthright and those of us who are already here will continue to make it easier for more to join us. the battle lines are drawn; history is on our side; and 15,000 years isn’t too long a wait to obtain justice. you should know just from watching Mexican fighters. they don’t quit. they just hold a grudge and dig in even deeper.

Posted May 21, 2013 6:13 pm 


Ray

Yea tuck tail and run…. reminds me of somebody…lol Boricuas will never know what its like to identity with their ancestors because they have none and if they did; they would disgrace them. They try and say they are puerto ricans, yet they think American, supporting laws that allow abuse to these ” illegals” and preaching its fair. Aint that right, Q?

Posted May 21, 2013 6:13 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Anonymous, what are you talkin bout fool? We are the OG boat people…

Posted May 21, 2013 6:12 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

“floyd is it the face of boxing”

How true. It’s hasn’t happened too often in history when that title wasn’t held by the heavyweight champ, but you can see why it isn’t currently…

Posted May 21, 2013 6:10 pm 


te tumbo

“Send illegals back . . .” your illegal ancestors disregarded that principle. why should we honor it now that the gettins improved? because you think you own it? (lol) Stop pissin and moanin about the chickens coming home to roost. just as you “inherited” stolen land, others will “inherit” it back. as you point out, it’s the cycle of history. Btw, as long as this country continues to indulge its drug addiction, there will be cartels to supply the drugs. don’t cry to Mexicans about your vice and weaknesses. also, “Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country”. there is no equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan in Mexico or Jim Crow Laws. those are notoriously “American” inventions.

Posted May 21, 2013 6:05 pm 


Q

Op Amp: Do you think Canelo Alvarez is a better fighter than Lucas Mathyssee? P4P Canelo would 100% be KTFO by that man… with no doubt in my mind. Floyd and Lucas are the same size, nobody has to physically sabotage themselves. Floyd literally lessens HIMSELF blowing up to “154″ or whatever he actually manages. I’d rather see FMJ Vs. LM… no man has to damage their OWN bodies to alter anything. Floyd will never be able to acclimate and campaign at 154, ever. I want to see the best vs the best, I’m not interested in a fight POSSIBLE made tough for NOTHING else besides an extreme weight and size difference. I’d rather see two men the same size, at the top of the sport, battle it out.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:48 pm 


Q

Illegal = Illegal…. I don’t want ANY nationality nor ethnicity to freaking invade the US like that… it’s not personal …it’s just the situation, and the people who are doing this, happen to be the Mexicans. Peace. Write what you want, I’m done. Write what you want, I’m actually not interested in all of this to be quite frank. It’s rather irrelevant to me. Peace.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:43 pm 


Op Amp

floyd would LOVE to finish out his 6 fight contract with nothing but ez fights, but he may HAVE to fight canelo eventually. Team mayweather knows this, and they also know that it would be better to get canelo now before he.matures more, and floyd slides more. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON why I wont be suprised to see this fight made.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:41 pm 


O_O

“boy” – why would someone be offended by a pocho or wb using a term of the people they cry about taking their land? (even though you lost battles and sold your own land) if anything it’s pathetic, jajajajajaja.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:33 pm 


Reality

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing) – your people sold that 1/3 of that land.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:32 pm 


te tumbo

Mexican is a Nahuatl word derived from Mexica, which is the ancient name of the Aztecs, which means that as early as 1810, Mexicans decided to self-identify with their native origins NOT with their european occupiers. the eagle on the Mexican flag is derived from the Mexica history and NOT a european coeat of arms. Mexicans were also the first to outlaw slavery and American slave owners were prohibited from pursuing their escaped slaves across the Mexican border by Mexican law. not interested? then stop flaunting your ignorance, STFU, and stick to Boxing.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:30 pm 


Pain

Think? How about you give us “Mayweather will fvcking fight Canelo or Manny Pacquiao”???

What a fvcking prima donna this Mayweather is.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:26 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Q; You’ve demonstrated that you’re an ignorant little jack-ass. Old Mexico, previous the the 1840′s, made up roughly 1/3 of the current U.S.A. California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, half of Colorado, part of Wyoming and Kansas, and the pan-handle of Oklahoma were all Old Mexican territory. That’s what’s known as a “history lesson,” son. I live in Phoenix (Old Mexico). Now F off back to PR or Africa, boy.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:26 pm 


Ray

Q-Stick to boxing and leave Mexicos history to those that have lived it. You want to read US history books on mexican history, thats all nonsense. And in the meantime go stuff ur face with tacos at ur favorite mexican restaurant while listening to mariachi on 5 de Mayo while gulping down a tequila shot and enjoy urself….. Your welcome.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:26 pm 


Reality

Ray: Mexican’s weren’t here first, the indigenous people of the now United States of America were NEVER called Mexican. That’s the name you got down the land in your new land. Mixing with Indians and Spaniards. You guys don’t make sense.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:25 pm 


te tumbo

“this land was MADE by the peoples that either CAME here, or where BROUGHT here, and those Indians, were sent south, and even SOLD there land to the US”. empires rose and fell thousands of years before “conquistadors”, pilgrims, and their property arrived. empires needed to be toppled to consolidate their occupation. illness and Amerindian allies were their primary advantages. where the F(!) were you educated? NO the land was NOT sold but invaded, occupied, and robbed with by “an offer they can’t refused”. since when does armed robbery result in possession being 9/10ths of the law and history? read SEVERAL books, numnuts.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:21 pm 


Ray

Im talkin about native Americans and being told to move. Mexicans were already here. The proof is in the names of many cities in the US. San Antonio, San Franscisco, El Paso, etc,.. all mexican chicano inspired names. What have puerto Ricans contributed to the US? What ocean water??? All of a sudden u all feel special. GTFOH.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:19 pm 


Q

A civilization of rat’s trying to lay claim to someone elses efforts. No wonder they want a 170+ pounder fighting a man who made a name for himself who also happens to come in on fight night 146…. that’s just what you people are made out of. That’s real rats for you.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:17 pm 


Ray

All the f*kin haters talkin trash about mexicans. Look we were already here. You all need to go back to that island u call puelto lico. Just cause yall got a free pass like a hooker with a free bus pass dont make ya special. You all are still someones b*tch.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:14 pm 


Q

Ray: JMM is a great fighter and one to be respected, he’s not some coward trash like these other Mexican hyped fighters… but as I said, Ortiz… Rios… etc are not only Americans, but also cowards and “bums.” JMM is on his way out also. And no, this land was MADE by the peoples that either CAME here, or where BROUGHT here, and those Indians, were sent south, and even SOLD there land to the US. They were down in what is NOW Mexico, and couldn’t do anything for it, and now they want to come back to a land built by other people. Give me a break. That’s sad. Mexico isn’t a dessert land, instead of being able to build their land, it just went to the dumps, and cartels, and they invade the US. These Mestizo’s aren’t pure Indios, and in Mexico there is internal racism against the more indigenous peoples, but when they want to invade, all of a sudden “we were here first”…. jokes.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:13 pm 


Hidalgo

“in a few years there’s no question if Canelo keeps winning he will be a suoerstar but there’s no way on earth that he should be trying to dictate a floydmayweather” Canelo doesn’t have to try to “dictate” anything, malachi. All he has to do is say yes, or no. Canelo should stand fast for a fight a 154 with no restrictions or don’t take the fight. That’s not dictating terms. That’s just making a decision.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:10 pm 


Hidalgo

” GBP is pushing him which is fine but the kid is NOT elite and he certainly has not earned a Mayweather fight on HIS terms… ” Fine. I can live with that SRedmond. Then Canelo shouldn’t take the fight.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:08 pm 


te tumbo

Btw Q, if you don’t like “Mexicans” go back to wherever the F(!) you came or were dragged from as “white trash” property. which is it? deFend yourself, boy or STFU, coward.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:08 pm 


Q

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing): I don’t think Cotto is ducking that coward, meanwhile you write lots of nonsense when the 170+ fighter takes on former 140 and 130 pounders… but if he’s challenged to fight a Ward or GGG it’s another story. Canelo is a coward and his fans are trash. Let that gassing coward clean out his division or move to 160.. he’s been calling for former 140 and 130 pounders for years. He’s a coward, and a perfect representation of the crap state of “Mexican” boxing. Pure trash. You guys should be boasting and supporting a guy like Mikey Garcia the American with family from Mexico. He’s a talent and owned the champ at his weight, and is about as skilled as almost anybody in the sport. But you freaks boast on cowards like Canelo. jaja.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:07 pm 


Ray

I guess Juan Manuel Marquez doesnt count as a great mexican fighter? I mean he only just recently destroyed a former P4P Pacquioa. Which by the way Pacquioa would have destroyed Danny Garcia. Danny Garcia according to many of his fellow puerto ricans dont even embrace him. And hes not really a fullblooded island rican either, so i guess that makes him American. Invading the US? Heck, we are only merely living in the land that once belonged our ancestors. We were already HERE. Get ur facts straight. Thats was exactly the American thinking when it came to the native indians and their land, so stfu.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:03 pm 


Q

Canelo is a coward and his fans are lowlifes.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:02 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Cotto is another PR coward who’s totally ducking Canelo — just like Mayflower. If Cotto finally grows a set and steps to Canelo he’s gonna get smashed out in career ending fashion. They should definitely have that fight in NYC because it’s gonna be Cotto’s retirement party. Real talk. R.I.P., PR boxing.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:00 pm 


Q

te tumbo: Yeah, these more popular fighter that don’t get half the PPV buys as the guy. You’re dumb, Floyd’s admires rank in the views. That’s just that, they want to see IF, something CAN BEAT HIM… that’s based on how good HE is and HIS success. That’s like the Lakers at their pick, many haters, but they have hardcore fans, because they’re winners, and you also want to watch them even if you don’t like them, because you want to see if they lose, and you want to see who can hold Kobe. Stop trying to twist things… notoriety and success is what sports are about, you’re talking about being liked? who cares when people aren’t even paying to see you fight? But I’ll tell you something, if on a good night this man gets over 1,100,000 PPV buys… to another guys 300,000 or whatever the normal numbers are, I’m willing to bet you, the other man has more fans in that 1,000,000+ than the other guy has in his 300,000 (keeping in mind that all those people aren’t wanting one guy or the other to win). Use your brain.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:00 pm 


Q

Public Enemy: There are no great Mexican fighters to take on Mayweather-Mathyssee-Rigondeux …they all will get smashed, and that’s why coward Canelo wants a fight with a man who can’t make 154 at all, while he weighs 172 on fight night (28 pounds). Mexican fighters are represented today by quitters like Ortiz, and cowards like Canelo… and the Mexican fans are so desperate that they don’t care. Mathyssee is actually a man who can come to 147 and acclimate to the division and campaign, and he’s the best option and most deserving for a FMJ. Mentioning Canelo with Mathyssee is in my mind a great disrespect to Lucas.

Posted May 21, 2013 4:49 pm 


Q

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing) – You think there aren’t a slew of light puerto ricans with green eyes? He actually looks rather typically Puerto Rican-American… he doesn’t look Mexican. And if you’re talking about directly from the countries, then there aren’t many REAL Mexicans doing anything in boxing… they are all Americans. And Cotto has done more than most of this eras Mexican fighters. No need to mention Camacho. Mexican boxing died with JCC Sr. I guess…. and these current guys are Americans, and that’s why these people are blowing smoke up Canelo’s ass… he’s the last Mexican (even though he’s white Irish… Mexican is a nationality so it’s ok) The best latino fighters today are from El Caribe and Argentina by far… and with the “Mexicans” they’re actually American’s, born and raised in America. Mexican isn’t a race… being a dark indio doesn’t make you Mexican.. if you were born here, those dark indios were also born here. Latino boxing is alive from Puerto Rican, Cuban and Argentine fighters. (I can count PR-Ams as well, since they are a duel nationality, unlike Mexicans who invade… PR’s have free passes.)

Posted May 21, 2013 4:44 pm 


Q

te tumbo: Actually, Canelo the 170+ fighter on fight night isn’t stepping up to anything, he’s once against fighting a natural Jr. WW who comes in two pounds under the WW limit instead of A. Cleaning out his division B. Fighting a GGG. He doesn’t deserve a cookie for that, what far naturally bigger champion wouldn’t take that paycheck? What fight in Floyd’s division or a division below wouldn’t take that paycheck? (besides Marquez who said he wouldn’t want to be one of Floyd’s last fights because “everybody knows what happened in 2009″). Don’t paint Canelo as some brave warrior, who wouldn’t call out a far smaller GOOD not non power puncher? Devon Alexander is also calling for Floyd. You become a millionaire, easy choice. Karass-Lopez-Ortiz are all Maidana victims. These Argentine fighters deserve more credit than all these Mexican fighters you’re listing honestly.. and by far. Even Danny Garcia, actually stepped up to fight Khan who was considered the best, as a fill in, and knocked him out. He’d also beat most all if not all those fighters you just listed. Don’t boast on who’s in the cross heirs of Lucas, he’s THE most dangerous fighter in the division, and Danny has a better chance than any Mexican fighter at the weight I can think of. Quality over quantity, your little list of Mexican fighters features a bunch of punching bags and cowards.

Posted May 21, 2013 4:34 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

PR boxing is dead. R.I.P. It died with Macho Camacho in 2012. Garcia is a White American with green eyes, who just barely has any connection to the dark islands… LOL.

Posted May 21, 2013 4:33 pm 


te tumbo

Marquez, Ortiz, and Guerrero stepped-up to the Mayweather challenge. Canelo is eager to do the same. i’m also certain that Rios, Alvarado, Guerrero, Ortiz, and even Soto-Karas or Lopez would be more than willing to collect a payday in a prominent matchup v. Mathysse. there is One (1) barely-PR fighter left worth mentioning in the entire sport of Boxing. his name is Garcia and he’s currently being positioned in Mathysse’s crosshairs for execution sometime this year . . . RIP PR Boxing . . . “Cannn-Tahhh y no Llores” . . . (lol).

Posted May 21, 2013 4:22 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Little Boy Floyd is flat out running scared from Canelo. Mayflowert holds two major belts at 154lbs and is currently ranked the #1 Jr. MW in the world by Ring. Idiot Translater: Floyd needs to defend his titles and accolades at 154lbs or vacate the division ASAP! Real fight fans are not fooled for a second by Mayflower’s avoidance tactics and diversions. He’s the cherry-pickin’ chess master of over-hyped promotions.

Posted May 21, 2013 4:17 pm 


Tom

Hogwash dude!! He has a contract and will get not a penny more than his contract stipulates. Why you keep embarrassing your people dude??

Posted May 21, 2013 3:45 pm 


te tumbo

Floyd’s comfort level at 154lbs is moot. he will venture north once again if the matchup makes money and sense, in-that-order, which is ultimately Floyd’s primary zone of comfort. Mayweather doesn’t fear risk but he is unalterably opposed to not being compensated for his effort and sacrifices and he considers himself to be the final arbiter of what the value of that compensation will be. as long as there are fans determined to witness Floyd finally losing, he will continue to be a profitable target for more popular fighters with the fanbases to meet his price. Floyd doesn’t really have a fanbase but he does possess the notoriety that every other fighter’s fanbase wants to claim victory against and THAT is Mayweather’s primary appeal.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:35 pm 


Grant Watson

Joe calzaghe retired undefeated. Floyd money mayweather will do exactly the same, and when he has officially retired and never fights again and that means no more come backs, then even more people in the world will realise what a freak of nature he is in that ring. You are not really appreciated until they are no longer there. Same applies to the Klitchkos.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:35 pm 


te tumbo

we can equally question or distrust the statement of a Showtime exec or a member of the media whose responsibility it is to rely on sources to convey the truth in their reporting. THAT is the primary role of the media in this country: to investigate, question, and challenge the statements of individuals paid to issue scripted statements, e.g., a Showtime exec. i trust the presumably independent reporting of a journalist over that of a paid executive any time. after all, only one of these two has something to lose by sharing an inconvenient truth.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:29 pm 


malachi

so what i’m understanding is some cats on here feel that it’s fair for floyd to fight a 172 pound fighter to even the playing field,so that way he can test himself right?

Posted May 21, 2013 3:23 pm 


*Wlad is King of Boxing*

FIGHT at 154, then at fight night balloon up if you want………or Canelo should get it on with CC Jr. Battle of The EZ’s ….Alvarez vs Chavez……

Posted May 21, 2013 3:13 pm 


Dan D

SRedmond, why are you arguing with Bears? Some people have an inability to acknowledge the views and opinions of others; instead opting to engage is psychological fencing and contortion of opinions. Long story short, I do see your point. Mayweather has no business at 154 and is not a legit JMW.. That said, he should vacate his trinket and leave that division to the bigger boys.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:07 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Canelo vs martinez, trout, ggg, I’m sure there’s a lot of potential bouts for canelo. Most logical one however is the two 154 pound champs fight. The unified 154 champ canelo vs the 154 pound champ mayweather. Yea sredond better tuck tail and run. Seems like got knocked out with that last post

Posted May 21, 2013 2:47 pm 


B Red

@Bears, What is the highest PPV numbers have the Klits ever do?

Posted May 21, 2013 2:46 pm 


B Red

The fight i want to see is Canelo vs Triple G. I woukd pay for that

Posted May 21, 2013 2:42 pm 


B Red

Canelo doesnt dictate terms with Floyd. If Canelo wants the fight ,it should be a same day weigh in

Posted May 21, 2013 2:39 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Guerrero the non champ at 147 and never will be anything at 147 is more of a 147 pounder than the champ at 154 is a 154 pounder!!!!!! classics coming out of redmonds mouth today. This guy will say anything won’t he. thanks for the laugh mental midget. I’ve heard it all now

Posted May 21, 2013 2:34 pm 


SREDMOND

No what I’m saying is Floyd is FAR more of a 147 pounder than he is a 154 pounder and I am saying Guerrero has show more committment and comfort at 147 because he fought there 3 times in a row meanwhile Floyd has NEVER had 2 back to back fights at 154 they have been spaces 5 years… Clearly FMJ’s not a legit 154 pounded but again your limited brain cannot process this brief tutorial…

Posted May 21, 2013 2:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Really Bears a Showtime exec says they did a little over a mill someone who has a name meanwhile Rafael is playing Watergate with an unnamed source with no accountability or ability to prove his assertions??? That’s called hearsay evidence at best and the BEST that Rafael can do is believe a “source” meanwhile the horses mouth is what counts FOOL…

Posted May 21, 2013 2:25 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Floyds a 154 champ. Was guerero a 147 champ? And your saying guerrero is more of a 147 pounder than floyd is being champ at 154. Bahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha! You always make me laugh

Posted May 21, 2013 2:23 pm 


Isuoldorsmallwegotafight

don’t think so Canelo said 154 lb or no fight and Floyd said 147 or no fight

Posted May 21, 2013 2:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Guerrero is more of a WW than Floyd is a 154 pounder… Guerrero had 3 fights in a row at 147 when has Floyd done that??, Guerrero made the limit at 147 whereas during his 2 fights 5 years apart Floyd NEVER MADE the 154 pound limit even on the night of the bout…He was not even the WW limit during his last weigh in… If ESB flip flopper Bears is going to call Guerrero “a blown up LW” then we have to call Floyd at BEST a blown up WW and Canelo at best a boiled down MW…. So in the spirit of staying true to this morons (Bears) theis this bout is unjust…. Bears will now twist on the vine, discuss “the tape” and try and hide his shame behind phony laughter, or his long winded rebuttal will make NO SENSE… Lol

Posted May 21, 2013 2:08 pm 


malachi

the kid takes himself off of the May Day card because he couldn’t have his way and now he’s begging for a fight on his terms never the less,i tell you what the kid has a lot of nerve…..eazy!

Posted May 21, 2013 2:08 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Yes, but as a boxing fan I don’t care what they make as long as they make ok money. The poignant fact here is showtime is LOOSING. 870,000 is not what ANYONE at showtime was BANKING on. So far the gamble is not paying dividends son!

Posted May 21, 2013 2:06 pm 


malachi

Dan ratmanpheal always hated Floyd and would say anything to make him look like he’s not the man in this beautiful sport we all learned to adore and love…yuup!

Posted May 21, 2013 2:05 pm 


malachi

Bears`i’m going to have to agree with you on that I feel that May should relinquish the 154 pound title because he’s not a 154 pound fighter and if i was floyd i wouldn’t fight a light heavy weight just so people can say oh that kid was to young and inexperienced when floyd beats him which truthfully i believe when it’s all said and done that Mayweathers going to end up fighting Canelo but on his terms,Canelo hasn’t earned the right to have things lined up in order how he likes it,he and team needs to sit back,relax and let things develop….yezzziir!

Posted May 21, 2013 2:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, we KNOW Mayweather did 1 million because the network reported that but for arguments sake lets say it was 875,000 PPV’s that’s still more than Canelo, Both Klits, Donaire, Martinez and Bradley’s last fights combined.. You know why? NONE of those dudes did PPV….Floyd’s salary 32 mill at worst was MORE by plenty than all those dudes combined last bout… Wlad got paid Mayweathers shoe money for facing that pathetic unranked sparring partner, his 4 defense against wretched comp

Posted May 21, 2013 1:58 pm 


SREDMOND

ESB Fool Bears has declared “Canelo will be a powerhouse in 6 years” meanwhile this guy might get knocked out his next fight for all we know.. Jermaine Taylor, Jeff Lacy, Naseem Hamed, Gerry Cooney, Lucien Bute and a host of others were supposed to be these till they were exposed.. Only a rank amateur would put a relatively untested 22 year old with one LIGHT punching world class fighter at his weight on his resume as a cant miss talent.. I understand Oscar hyping him up he’s gotta sell the kids fights.. Let’s see what Canelo looks like when he can no longer hide out at 154 and balloon to 172… When MW’a start attacking and punching back things might look VERY different… I like Canelo and Broner as young up and coming fighters but neither man is a “can’t miss scenario” personally I think Broners more talented than Alvarez and I still am watching on a fight by gift basis… If Manny Pacquiao can get splatted so can Canelo…

Posted May 21, 2013 1:52 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I’ll believe this when the fight is signed. Not a day earlier.

Posted May 21, 2013 1:51 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

There both 154 pound champs. They can fightor floyd can throw his titles in the garbage like bowe. If floyd wants to duck as iis the trend. Same thing that happened with pac is happeneing again. Crazy demands noone should take. Canelos young. If floyd doesn’t wanna fight move on. Canelo has a very bright and long career ahead of him andhe will be rich. There is no need for mayweathers ridiculusness to be complied with. Dudes a duck leave it at that, strip the fake duck, and move on. Who cares about this duck anymore? Less and less people, that’s who. The 154 pound champ doesn’t have 2 fight at 147 but the fake 154 pound champ mayweather does need stripped. He needs to concede that he is garbage at 154 while demanding canelo make 147. Or he isbasically conceding that is he not? Lol!

Posted May 21, 2013 1:50 pm 


malachi

Canelo just started the job a week ago and all ready is demanding to move from making fries to running 10 different food chains..ha! getatme!!

Posted May 21, 2013 1:48 pm 


malachi

in a few years there’s no question if Canelo keeps winning he will be a suoerstar but there’s no way on earth that he should be trying to dictate a floydmayweather,i gurentee you if he fights cotto,cotto will not allow any dictation and he has earned that right.how can his team come in and try to strong arm Mayweather when Mayweather holds the cards and paved the way i don’t understand the logic of some.Canelos still wet behind the ears and he and team needs to learn how to respect the King and the chain of command…..yezzzir!

Posted May 21, 2013 1:41 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Obviously the numbers are down. People less and less are buying the con. And its surprising people saw through the “guerrero garbage bloated lightweight” because floyd looked vulnerable against cotto. You would’ve thought if most thought guerrero had a chance at all they would’ve bought the ppv. Despite floyd looking vulnerable the numbers still dropped. One shining consolation here is broner has moved up and will be pulling floyds card. Hopefully, there will no floyd scripted fix

Posted May 21, 2013 1:37 pm 


BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)

Alvarez wll be a powerhouse boxing star in 6 years like he already is becoming. Making it look easy aganst the rober guereros and ortizs wow. Are floyds dearest sill lauding that garbage? Nobody feels ortiz and gueerero are anything. They both did the same script and the fell off the planet following their loss to may. Now gueerero is meeting fans as though he accomplished someting. Lol! Utter garbage. Alvarez definetly has fights to make. He could even rematch trout. Who’s floyd gonna fight? How many more bloated light weights and past its remain? Or some low ranking 147 pounder. Most likely not the best. Not canelo. That’s the trend though. Of a cherry picking duck mayweather. Floyd is basically calling this fight off with his 147 demand. Just like he called off pac as he kept changing his drug test times then when pac agreed floyd said he wanted all the money. Outrageous ammounts of money. Because boxing is his only job in case he looses he needs the money. Its just been the same trend. More garbage smoke screens to prevent the best matches from taking place. Moreover, Nobody is asking floyd to do anything he hasn’t already said he would. I never have watched floyds garbage matchups. Dude has never conned me out of my money. He can fight the best or I won’t be watching. I haven’t started watching yet. Canelo vs may 154 pound championship. Mayweather should’ve already been stripped of any and all titles and or decorations at 154. He’s the modern bowe

Posted May 21, 2013 1:28 pm 


Ray

Anonymous- my mistake. But its out there now for those that keep asking Canelo to go down in weight and make 147lbs.

Posted May 21, 2013 1:08 pm 


murderman

Floyd is the man and calls the shots! 147 or nothing! Just like when odh was the man and called the shot and made floyd fight him at 154! And odh didnt weigh 170 on fight night either! Canelo can take 147 or leave it! He is not the name floyd is! If he doesnt take it there are plenty of fighters who will!

Posted May 21, 2013 1:03 pm 


Havoc

Canelo need to get beat up and soften up before Mayweather agree to fight him…If not Golden Boy and Floyd will be cooking up some WWE style scripted fight to make this a win win situation for Floyd and Golden Boy and to make this fight happen.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:49 pm 


Anonymous

Ray, i meant for him to make his weight, not 147, never mentioned making 147….he needs to stay at his weight and fight whoever is available and viable….sometimes you have to blaze your own trail, there’s enough money for everyone as long as they keep winning

Posted May 21, 2013 12:48 pm 


Hidalgo

“Floyd Mayweather does not have to disadvantage himself physically to appease Alvarez or FMJ detractors who have foolishly deemed him as the answer to their 17 year nightmare and reign of dominance…” WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!! *SNIFF SNIFF*

Posted May 21, 2013 12:42 pm 


Ray

Yea, agreed. Conditioning and training to make weight BUT Canelo can no longer make 147 lbs SAFELY, so u can forget that. He is always in top shape but his body wont let him lose more weight without killing himself. He is not Arreola or Hatton, that balloons up in between fights. He is in shape already.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:37 pm 


dj puerto

its to early for canelo to fight floyd mayweather …i think he should fight cotto first and then may 4 floyd ve canelo

Posted May 21, 2013 12:34 pm 


Falcon

floyd has the highest contract in all of sports,last fight only drew 870,ooo buys..cbs/showtime lost $….joe calzaghe retired undefeated,but ino 1 considers him 1 of best of all time bcuz he waited til jones n hopkins got old n didnt fight top comp in his prime…floyds just an american version of calzaghe,but more $ and can play spoiled brat role…mosley,ortiz n ctto were all handpicked bcuz they were no threat…look how they all lost there next fight afterwords…why would any true boxing fan want floyd 2 continue 2 rip the public off..talk about a nut hanger,..yea,im talkin 2 u ED,lol…if floyd fighta alverez it will be an ez night 4 floyd..just 2 good,no need 2 be scared or cautious when ur the best AND get paid accordingly

Posted May 21, 2013 12:32 pm 


Anonymous

Canelo should just make weight by training properly, dehydrating is more of a handicap than people think, by making weight thru conditioning and rehydrating to about 163 or so will make him much more resilient and dangerous, todays fighters are lazy and that’s why FMJ is so dominant, he’s been training old school all his life and with today’s modern methods and equipment he’s virtually unbeatable in his weight class which is wwt…..so even if you hate the man , you gotta love him for taking full advantage of the era he was born into.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:19 pm 


Richard Bulger

The fight should be at 154 since Mayweather has a belt at 154. Not 147, but 154. Thats all.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:13 pm 


Tomato Can

If Mayweather wants the fight great. But I doubt he does right now. Maybe within the next couple of years, but he realizes that even cotto at 154 was heavier than him in their fight, which did make things a bit more difficult than they should have been. Canelo’s size will make things even more difficult. Heck he injured his hands against Guerrero, his hands will have a tough time holding up, inorder to keep Canelo at bay. At this point Mayweather should stay at WW. Afterall, he’s a small welter weight anyway.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd Mayweather does not have to disadvantage himself physically to appease Alvarez or FMJ detractors who have foolishly deemed him as the answer to their 17 year nightmare and reign of dominance… Floyd missed weight against Marquez and still JMM was in the ring with a SMALL WW fighter… Alvarez missed weight against Matthew Hatton and we now know how big he might have been… In the scheme of things Floyd’s physical comfort is vastly more important than Canelos who is an upstart fighter compared to FMJ and is only 22 years old… If you can’t push yourself at 22 then when can you?? Floyd’s 36 still showing up ready to do 12 hard rounds that he makes look easy… When his younger excuse laden opponents are fading he is turning up the gas… We have seen BETTER fighters sustain undue damage while winning against a bigger man… Martinez vs Chavez and some could argue PAC slowed after Margo bashed him in the ribs with an additional 17 pounds… Canelo has been groomed for success via his opponents who were not players in his division absent Trout, open scoring, VERY liberal scores in his favor… But now he’s not “the name” fighter holding all the cards.. Can he or will he sacrifice to make the fight? Martinez as crazy as it sounds was willing to try and boil down to 150 at the age of 38 to get the fight… Something’s wrong if Alvarez cannot shave down the 7 pounds for one evening… Mayweather can just stay true to form and fight at 154 once every 6 years…. See you in 2019 Canelo!!! Oops Floyd will be retired and God only knows what Alvarez will be doing…

Posted May 21, 2013 11:55 am 


ED

Floyd should not take the fight. Why risk his zero and health when he can fight people like guerrero and ortiz for the same amount of money. No sense in risking it all for nothing to gain except a belt.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:27 am 


the beatles

you don’t think mayweather will actually fight canelo do you?when will u learn!!

Posted May 21, 2013 11:24 am 


Mbuyiseli

The weirdest thing to come from Mayweather haters is that they think he is a cherry picker and that mentality can’t be changed regardless of whom he fights next. Then why are they worried about that punk called Mayweather? You “know” he will never test himself against a live foe and has never done it before. My question to you is why do you have a hard on for what you already know that Floyd won’t do? Why are you pissed for something that you’ve fore-concluded?

Posted May 21, 2013 11:04 am 


RapidOne08

Forget them Floyd they aren’t in the ring getting hit by lighthheavy weights for 12 rounds

Posted May 21, 2013 10:23 am 


sthomas

Floyd is better at just about everything than Canelo. I favor him to win regardless of weight. Floyd is a champ at this weight so no precedent is being set. This fight needs to be @ 154 with no clauses or it loses validity.

Posted May 21, 2013 10:15 am 


Boxer

I’m kinda hoping this fight doesn’t happen no more because writers like this, he’s more a fan of a fighter than of the sport, he starts on 1 subject and always finishes by bashing Canelo continuasly, and again who has ggg beaten?, who has broner beaten?, so why are you guys hyping these 2 and forget about the real fighters out there.

Posted May 21, 2013 10:10 am 


Boxer

That’s really true I forgot about that mayweather said I would NEVER make someone fight at a weight where their not comfortable, well evidently not, c’mon Floyd Martinez fought a Chavez that easily had 25+lbs on him and gave him a boxing lesson, the truth is weight is not his biggest issue with Canelo that’s just the excuse he’ll use.

Posted May 21, 2013 10:05 am 


Hidalgo

Thanks, Ray. I try to qualify my posts with facts when I can.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:47 am 


Hidalgo

“According to the source, the Marquez camp knew Wednesday night that Mayweather would not make weight because Mayweather’s team made overtures to Golden Boy Promotions in an effort to have Marquez agree to change weight on the bout agreements to be filed with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

However, Marquez’s contract had already been filed reading 144 pounds, according to commission executive director Keith Kizer. But Kizer said the bout agreement was retrieved from the commission by Golden Boy Promotions and changed to 147 with Marquez initialing it.

Mayweather’s contract with 147 pounds was not filed with the commission until minutes before the weigh-in. Kizer said it was supposed to be filed on Wednesday.”

Posted May 21, 2013 9:46 am 


Ray

Hidalgo- yet another good one. Very good quotes. Lets hope Meayweather sticks to his words.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:45 am 


Hidalgo

Concerning his fight with Marquez:

“At Mayweather’s request, nobody would speak publicly about the contract weight throughout the promotion that kicked off in early May and continued into the fall when the fight was postponed from July 18 because of a Mayweather rib injury.”

Posted May 21, 2013 9:44 am 


Hidalgo

Mayweather’s comments before his fight with De la Hoya:

“Weight doesn’t win fights. Popularity doesn’t win fights. Skill wins fights. That’s what I have,” Mayweather said. “I don’t care if he outweighs me by 25 pounds. I’m going to beat him when it’s all said and done.”

Posted May 21, 2013 9:38 am 


Exiled Yank

DLH is a broken record at this point. Everyone he’s pitted against MF has had the goods to beat Mayweather… or so he claims. Well, he is a promoter. I’d like to see this fight happen and I’d like to see it at 154, but whether it does or not, remains to be seen. FM has no problem walking away from huge paydays if he’s not happy, and that is what makes him a powerful negotiator.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:35 am 


Ray

Hidalgo- great post bro. I remember Floyd saying that too. Good quote from Mayweather.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:30 am 


Hidalgo

It’s not fair if Floyd has to fight someone who’s substantially bigger than him on fight night? Then stay in the welterweight division. If you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen, right? I think so. But let me ask you and everyone else a question. Let’s say the tables were reversed. Let’s say Floyd was the bigger guy on fight night and Canelo weighed some 25 lbs less than him. Do you think Floyd would agree to a catchweight fight or agree to drop a whole weight division to fight Canelo? No friggin’ way would he ever do that. Don’t believe it? I haven’t seen him offer to go down to 140 to fight anyone since he became a welterweight. Not once. And the only reason he’s continued to fight in the jr. middleweight division to date is because he has had the ability to choose and pick on his terms.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:26 am 


Hidalgo

Floyd’s famous last words regarding weight:

“I think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he’s not comfortable. I want a guy when he’s at his best. If he’s at his best at 154 and he’s strong and he’s solid, then that’s the fight we’re fighting at. I walk around at 150, but the end of the day – skills pays the bills.”

At the end of the day, “skills pay the bills.” So get over it Floyd. Fight Canelo at 154 with no weight stipulations.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:18 am 


Falcon

floyd knows the advantage of coming in bigger,he never made contracted weight against Marquez,on fight nite had 10lb advantagge…mayweather is biggest hypocrite in sports period…that being sed,floyd will easily handle Canelo,winning atleast 10 of 12 rounds..im tired of all this size talk after the weigh-in,Sugar Ray gave up quite a few lbs 2 Hagler…Floyd is head n shoulders above 2days fighters,no need 4 this postuing…didnt he want Pacman fight at 154?or atleast acted like he did,as he blatantly ducked his top competition…next guy floyd avoids will be Mattysse,or try 2 make him come up 2 154..

Posted May 21, 2013 9:18 am 


Mma fighter

Start your own

Posted May 21, 2013 9:13 am 


Hidalgo

WTF is going on with ESB? PLEASE FIX THIS SILLY WEBSITE ONCE AND FOR ALL SO WE CAN POST OUR COMMENTS!

Posted May 21, 2013 9:10 am 


Mma fighter

PAC Sergio Saul are the only 30million fights out there snap out of it I think PAC is only win

Posted May 21, 2013 9:08 am 


rjack58

Oscar just wants to SEE Mayweather BEATEN before he retires. Oscar has said every opponent after him would BEAT Mayweather…Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, and Guerrero, and he was WRONG!! He’ll be wrong again with Canelo!

Posted May 21, 2013 9:02 am 


JoeKidd

So what’s the intrigue? Floyd will dance circles around him…win every round…throwing 1 punch per round!

Posted May 21, 2013 8:45 am 


Dan D

Apart from Pacquiao, who else could Mayweather have fought? Margarito? I believe that same day weigh ins and rehydration clauses should be part of every fight to keep things as level as possible. We shouldnt see guys like Chavez Junior coming to the ring as a Cruiserweight when he is fighting at the middleweight limit. Canelo is no different, he comes in as a light heavyweight, not a super welterweight.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:38 am 


zurdo40

Undefeated means nothing whey you dont fight the best in your weight at the moment. When the judges aware you with decisions when you show fear over the ring, when you fight once per year. Guerrero, cotto, marquez, shane, Ortiz, odh, baldomir, etc. were the best in the weight at the moment?

Posted May 21, 2013 8:30 am 


Dan D

ZURDO40 – That ’0′ is worth $30+ million plus a fight. Mayweather is fighting his opponents on a level playing field and gets little credit but Wlad Klitschko, who outweighs mosts guys by 30lbs and has height and reach advantages gets credit for beating Pianeta, Chambers and the like. Granted, Klitschko can only fight whoever is out there so it isnt his fault but why should Floyd give up 25lb+ to Canelo?

Posted May 21, 2013 8:26 am 


Dan D

PPV wise, Pacquiao still, as things stand, would bring the best numbers. If he looks good against Rios, which I think he will, we could finally see the big one in 2014. Arum will concede the numbers in Mayweathers favour and cash out on Manny. Rios is taylor made for Pacquiao.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:22 am 


zurdo40

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Floyd talking about advantages!!!!! HE will bite his tongue. Definetly Kahn or Alexander are better options. hahahaha. His “0″ worths precisely that just zero.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:21 am 


Dan D

Canelo only scraped past Trout due to open scoring mainly. I think that fight should be done over again. Canelo needs big names. Unfortunately, there is nobidy at 154 really good enough to offer a test to the elite guys, 147 is where its at. Pacquiao, Bradley, Marquez, Mayweather, Thurman and now Broner too. Matthysse could hope up there without an issue. No need for Floyd to go to 154 for Cinne just yet.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:19 am 


Adrian

Lol now some mayweather fans now suddenly are throwing trout under the bus just because he lost to Canelo …wake up trout has only one loss and beat cotto easier then mayweather did ,so Canelo win over trout is big and those who claim is not than they should tell us who they think beats trout?

Posted May 21, 2013 8:12 am 


SREDMOND

Guys thinking Canelo would put this thing PAST or on par with ODH based on 40,000 at the Alamodome are illogical… Chavez Sr did what 100,000 people against Haugen I think and how big we’re his PPV’s?? PAC did over 40k in Texas against Margarito and he’s never gotten close to 2 million buys… Granted Floyds the biggest dog but Canelo does not being a big enough name to push the bout much beyond Cotto who has done successful PPV’s prior to Floyd.. Canelo vs Floyd will do very well, but absent the resurrection of the Pacquaio fight by some miracle 2 million is safely out of reach…

Posted May 21, 2013 7:43 am 


boxingfan

I’m not a big FMJ fan but the man always comes to fight and is always in shape. His speed and experience would dominate Canelo at any weight. If the biggest and strongest always won the fight then there would be no reason to compete. Canelo is strong and has a punch but his skills are no match for FNJ. I give this fight to Floyd at 147 or 154.

Posted May 21, 2013 7:36 am 


SREDMOND

All this talk of FMJ challenging Canelo is odd because Canelo is challenging Floyd whic EVERYONE IS doing Alvarez is no different, Khan, Matthysee, Alexander and Canelo all want part of the PPV gold that FMJ brings… That said guys trying to dismiss Floyds much longer and established track record at 147 in lieu of his 2 Mega bouts at 154 are just gunning for the bout or dying to see him hit by another pro athlete who has 22 pounds on him…What’s new here, Floyd beat ODH and dropped right back to WW for 5 years, he beat Cotto and dropped back to 147 because that’s his appropriate division… He just weighed 146, there are plenty of 140 pounders who weigh more than FMJ fight night…I remember Alvarado and Prescott both weighed 157 or thereabouts when they clashed… Canelos simply not gonna have his usual extreme advantage over smaller fighters… Can he make a go of it or not? Or does he need 14 years 22 pounds, Texas judges and open scoring to have a slim shot? Nice life if he were not facing Floyd who’s the cash cow of boxing and does not have to roll out a red carpet for this kid…

Posted May 21, 2013 7:34 am 


CheckLeftHook

“No fighter retires undefeated…even the best in the world has to lose.” Hey, Oscar cross-dresser, two words – Joe Calzaghe.

Posted May 21, 2013 7:23 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, your argument is 100% slanted in favor of what’s “fair” to Alvarez totally ignoring what’s “fair” to the more established OLDER and smaller fighter… If Alvarez does not want to concede some of his unusual (for 154) body mass then that’s fine go face guys at 154 or 160… We know Cotto coming off 2 losses is next on his list, which is weak even though there is economic potential… I doubt we are going to see Mayweather do much if anore business at 154, he’s physically NOT a 154 pound fighter as evidenced by him not even making the limit AFTER weigh in….Canelos standing in boxing is comical when compared to Floyd’s if he wants what Mayweather has then he’s got to make a choice, just like actual Great fighters had to in order to become stars.. PAC jumped 2 divisions, Hopkins dropped weight and Floyd fought the BIGGER ODH… Thus far Canelo has been put in favorable scenarios against guys who were not players at 154, even Trout faced him in Texas where the scoring was HORRIBLE and let Canelo know he was up 45 points by the 8th round when he was starting to suck air… I had no issue with Canelo getting a close “W” but they acted like Trout did not even lace up… Again if Canelo wants the torch then he’s gotta do what he’s gotta do…

Posted May 21, 2013 7:21 am 


Edgar Guevara

Mayweather-Canelo PPV gold.

Posted May 21, 2013 7:18 am 


boxingfan

They should not even fight in my oppinion. This catch weight crap has ruined boxing. What happened to the days when fighters fought the best in their own weight class?

Posted May 21, 2013 6:24 am 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

why don’t the ugly little twerp alvarez fight TRIPLE G at 154 ? no weight issues !

Posted May 21, 2013 6:10 am 


petofi

Canelo is not much. Trout beat him. He’s slow and runs out of gas. With the extra weight, he’ll be done by the 7th round. Then Mayweather will knock him out.
Trout would new much more dangerous and Mayweather won’t fight him.

Posted May 21, 2013 5:32 am 


AbyK

Canelo Vs Broner

Posted May 21, 2013 5:11 am 


Happyboy

Adrian – I think thats what his saying, know what I mean.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:59 am 


Martin “EL BRUCHADOR” Honorio

Canelo is not ready for the Mayweathers, Pacquiaos, JMMs, or Wards of this world, in short— the elite—not yet anyway.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:53 am 


JP

Ouch even worst than a C+ fighter.. an old man Mosley. Canelo has beaten nobody. He’s slow, inexperienced, and has no stamina.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:51 am 


Adrian

Jp- when did Canelo fight berto?? Lol ..keep bashing him without even knowing who he fought lol classic !

Posted May 21, 2013 3:25 am 


Adrian

Happyboy -if we go by boxing rules as long as you make weight at a certain weight at a weigh in there is absolutely no problem whatsoever unless you want to change the rules just to please a particular boxer …
Listen if mayweather thinks Canelo is to big for him and don’t want to fight him than its all fine I understand that but saying he is to big but saying he has to drop to fight him that is a totall bs because we all know Canelo is to big to drop at 147 so it would be fair if mayweather says I can’t fight at 154 because at tha weight there are fighters who are to big for me and that’s it!

Posted May 21, 2013 3:22 am 


JP

Canelo is another fighter overhyped by the many Mexicans in the sport. He beat a C+ fighter in Berto and arguably LOST against Trout. He’s nothing special. Mayweather will school him at 147 or 154, don’t matter.

Posted May 21, 2013 3:17 am 


Happyboy

De La Hoya is the one who made Floyd climb all the way up to 154lbs for their lil tussle, he out of all of us should understand why Floyd is calling the fight at his best weight which is WW as we all know. The fight has potential to bust records and needs to be made. The weight is an issue, I only see the fight at 154lbs with a rehydration clause if we looking for a solution. Let Floyd feast on Alexander in September then Canelo in May meanwhile Canelo takes on Cotto in September and all roads lead to a Mega Event in May 2014 in Mexico, Aztec Stadium.104 000 seats sold out! 3M PPV sold. :-)

Posted May 21, 2013 3:14 am 


Happyboy

Adrian – how is that different to coming in as 172lbs LHW vs a 151lbs WW fighting for a 154lbs JMW title, doesn’t that weaken yoyr opponents chances?

Posted May 21, 2013 3:02 am 


Adrian

Jack Dempsey ..calzaghe beat then undefited champion Kessler who was a much biger name then froch who btw beat froch too…so saying calzaghe retired because of froch dosent hold much water buddy…btw he moved up after beating the best at middleweight at fought jones and Hopkins ..

Posted May 21, 2013 2:35 am 


Adrian

I could challenge klitchko today and ask him to drop at 180 to fight me and I would fight him and beat him if he manage to drop at 180 if he could have not make the weight I could say klitchko avoided me be aide I challenge him to drop at me weight but he was afraid….

Posted May 21, 2013 2:31 am 


Adrian

One question for this guy who wrote this article ,if let’s say Canelo agrees to fight mayweather at 147 and makes somehow the weight by starving to death but at the fight night he still come at his usual weight at 170 pounds ,would you have a problem with that ? I mean he is still coming at 170 right..??? If you don’t have a problem with that then the only reason for asking Canelo to drop at 147 is to weaken him or to avoid fighting him because the know he can’t possibly drop at 147 pounds ,I don’t see it any other way around this issue end of story!

Posted May 21, 2013 2:26 am 


Adrian

Oh I see now ,as soon as I mention his name it has to go his moderation…?

Posted May 21, 2013 2:15 am 


hecdog

Mayweather will never fight Canelo at 154. Both guys are going to make plenty of money, so someone just make the fight. IMO, Canelo will be running after Floyd all night.

Posted May 21, 2013 2:14 am 


Adrian

Why I can never post in this guy’s articles???

Posted May 21, 2013 2:13 am 


Jack Dempsey

Froch was hunting down Calzaghe way before he retire ,,Froch was already making a name for himself ,,,but i’m not to sure if Froch would have beaten Calzaghe anyways ,,but Calzaghe retire instead of taking a chance of losing to Froch ..Just like Marciano did , he retire before he was to face the new contenders ,like Floyd Patterson and the up coming Sony Liston..

Posted May 21, 2013 2:07 am 


PEEJ

He did. According to showtimes VP. Not sure where your info comes from but mines from Showtimes VP. I’ll take his word over everybody else’s. so unless he comes on record saying other wise.

Posted May 21, 2013 1:40 am 


te tumbo

“makes money, makes sense” remains Floyd’s guiding principle. if the price is right, and Floyd definitely has his price, Mayweather will step-up and risk glory for a guaranteed and once again unprecedented payday. everyone knows what we’re dealing with here. read Mayweather’s price and let’s do this thing.

Posted May 21, 2013 1:38 am 


875,000 Buys

“Floyd sells over a million PPVs.”

Then why didn’t he do it in his last fight?

Posted May 21, 2013 1:21 am 


PEEJ

Floyd sells over a million PPVs. He will definitely get a much bigger chunk. Canelo has yet to prove he is a PPV seller. Just like when Floyd fought Oscar he had to take way less

Posted May 21, 2013 12:45 am 


PEEJ

Calzaghe did not retire before Froch could fight him. I’m not saying he didn’t fight people in there prime but Froch was not known when he retired. That’s like saying he retired before Ward could fight him. Or Lewis retired before Wilder could fight him.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:44 am 


Coopal

Canelo should get a big piece of the pie if they do, he will bring in the PPV money.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:44 am 


PEEJ

Canelo pulled 40000 selling seats for 10 bucks. Floyd can do the same thing. Now with that being said I’m not chastising him for doing that. I congratulate him because Fliyd tickets are too damn expensive.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:43 am 


Jack Dempsey

To Edgar Guevara ,,the fighters you mention that retire undefeated did not fight the best fighters around their time .. Marciano a very tough fighter did not fight large heavy weights and avoided the up and coming fighters ,,Joe Calzaghe was the same way he retire before Carl Froch could fight him ,,but Calzaghe was talented and Lopez never tested himself in anther division …

Posted May 21, 2013 12:36 am 


Edgar Guevara

Canelo-Mayweather PPV gold will surpass DLH-Mayweather 2007. Canelo brought 40,000 in live fight. He should have no problem doing double number PPV. Mayweather will make so good extra money besides his 250m dollars. Catch weight 152 ala Pacquiao.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:36 am 


SREDMOND

Oscars saying Floyd will lose, which pretty much guarantees he’s gonna win…ODH seems a bit jealous that Floyd still has the fire in his belly and remains undefeated..

Posted May 21, 2013 12:31 am 


Anonymous

They could meet at a catch weight Canelo looks big even for a junior mw. He will get schooled and Mayweather will but on another boxing clinic. How do you beat a guy that counters like that? With the speed Canelo wont be able to land and smother him against the ropes. Cotto tired and failed. MW looked untouchable. The only way to beat him is to force him to go toe to toe and he is too smart for that..

Posted May 21, 2013 12:30 am 


Dalekojak

Correction: may will fight him at ww. I hope canelo does not fight may for another year at least. He would be better to fight cotto or trout again before may.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:10 am 


Edgar Guevara

Rocky Marciano, Joe Calzaghe, Ricardo Lopez undefeated fighters.

Posted May 21, 2013 12:08 am 


PEEJ

Floyd would most definitely fight Canelo at 147. Problem is Canelo probly can’t make the weight. I don’t think he will fight him next since he has 5 more fights. Who would be left after Canelo?

Posted May 21, 2013 12:01 am 


Dalekojak

May will not fight canelo at 147 .

Posted May 20, 2013 11:42 pm 



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