I would have picked kessler had it not been for the scare he suffered against Green. You could clearly see after going down when he got up he was a bit wobbly, then he started smiling which is a classic sign that a fighter is hurt and trying to pretend everything is ok. If that had been Froch in there it may have been all over, but Green is too tentative and never went after Kessler to test him. But by the end of the round Kessler was tagging Green with some decent shots. Green’s Jab was giving Kessler problems for the first couple of rounds aswell which surprised me. But all credit to Kessler he seemed to shift into another gear in round three and from there it was obvious that Green’s time in this bout had passed and it was inevitable that he was going to finish the bout on the wrong end of a KO it was just a matter of when. Then boom lights out in the 4th round.Posted May 23, 2013 1:37 pm
Haimat….. You have to read what I said.. I said Ward had better boxing skills when he turned pro than Kessler has today.. I didn’t say Ward was the fighter he became after 20 fights when he faced Kessler. When he turned pro, Ward had a better and more deceptive jab.. He knew how to duck, roll, and slip any kind of punch coming from any direction. He knew more about footwork, spacing, and distance. He was more relaxed and smoother. He could tie and opponent up with less effort than Kessler took.. I didn’t say he could BEAT today’s Kessler with the skills he had when he turned pro. But his overall knowledge and skill level was already at a very elite level from the years of working with Virgil Hunter and interfacing with many of the world’s top amateurs and trainers.. When Ward fought Kessler he hadn’t really faced ANY elite pro at all, and Kessler HAD in Calzaghe.. Yet Ward knew from watching Kessler’s fights, if he just remained alert and fought a smart fight, he wasn’t going to encounter a lot of problems … so vast was the skills differential.Posted May 22, 2013 6:05 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
I know the amateur and professional ranks are bloody different. My point still stands though.. Ward would’ve learnt a lot more and garnered more experience fighting at the highest level against the world’s elite amateurs than Kessler would’ve by beating tomato cans and scrubs in 6 and 8 rounders, which is exactly what he was doing for his first 28 fights. And Ward comes from a huge country with an equally huge population which has a long and illustrious history within the sport and much better trainers, facilities, sparring etc, whereas Kessler comes from a tiny country, with a tiny population, with scant boxing history. Alexander Povetkin only had a few more amateur bouts than Ward, but that experience he amassed fighting against the elite amateurs enabled him to beat far more seasoned pros him from very early on in his career.Posted May 22, 2013 3:19 pm
Tark, you’re way off on this one. “Ward … was a better boxer when he turned pro than Kessler is today” That’s just hating, plain and simple. Ward matured slowly as a pro. He was not truly impressive until he beat Kessler and a few fights prior to that against lesser opposition. I watched his 10th fight or something like that and he was wobbled by a nobody. He was nothing special. Fighting at home, with a home turf ref is a huge advantage. The head butts he hit Kessler with in that fight were the hardest I’ve ever seen in a boxing ring. Ward would have been disqualified with a home turf ref in Denmark…
Yes I agree, it is close to insane to say that Froch has superior boxing skills, compared to Kessler.
I furthermore find it close to insane to claim that Froch has met World class boxers since his Kessler defeat:
Bute: A shot fighter, who gave up, almost immediately, Grachev almost beat him.
Mack: A fighter, who went Down in weight to meet Froch in Nottingham.
Nothing else there. Froch is a brawler, a bar fighter, with great charisma, but to be honest, neither Kessler nor Froch has met World class opposition, since their last fight.
I agree with Kessler, if he can’t beat a strong bar fighter, in Froch, he should stop.Posted May 22, 2013 2:39 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Yeah, and Ward had 120 amateur fights compared to Kessler’s 47 and, crucially, he fought at the very highest level against the world’s elite amateurs, whereas other than winning the European junior championships and an international tournament in New Zealand, Kessler mainly fought at domestic/regional level. And he mainly fought at the junior level too. Fighters gain more much experience fighting against elite level amateurs than they do knocking out scrubs promoters feed fledgling pros for the first 20 fights or so. Kessler was still fighting 6 rounders up until his 22nd fight too.
These clown tried that pull that crap with Dirrell too. He was this poor lickle inexperienced green babba being fed to the wolves in the Super Six. lol. He had like 250 fights for Christ’s sake, way more than Kessler, Abraham, and even Froch and Ward. lolololPosted May 22, 2013 2:02 pm
There is only one warrior and that’s Kessler – cause he is going for the rematch, opposite Ward and Calz – it will suit them by the way!Posted May 22, 2013 1:40 pm
I disagree that “Froch needs to use his superior overall boxing ability”. Kessler has the better overall boxing ability than Froch. I think Mikkel is pumped up and ready for this fight. His fast one-two is no more but I can see him beating Froch by applying constant pressure and blasting quick combinations every now and again. I just saw that Froch is a big favorite at the bookmaker. Still I go with the Viking WarriorPosted May 22, 2013 12:49 pm
What about the other 300 blows Ward landed??? They were all legal. And the fact that Kessler had more than twice as many professional fights but was made to look like a 3rd rate sparring partner by Ward???
OK… So I guess you have another problem with Ward. I wonder what that could be?Posted May 22, 2013 12:23 pm
No if you watch the Calzaghe vs Kessler fight again, you will see that Kessler landed 3 clear-cut heavy uppercuts, that made Joe go into defense mode. I recognize Calzaghe as the best Smw.
I think that Kessler did a great job against Calzaghe, and certainly won more than 2 rounds.
Ward I don’t rcognize, due to 5 headbutts, which is cheating.Posted May 22, 2013 12:05 pm
Kessler won 2 rounds off Calzaghe… He landed a couple of smashing uppercuts that really rang Joe’s bell, but he didn’t come close to knocking JC down or knocking him out. JC didn’t stagger. About the only thing you can say was Kessler couldn’t land anything at all that was troubling on Ward, who only had 20 fights. That’s the best comparison you can make when talking about the skills of Calzaghe, Ward, Kessler, and Froch.Posted May 22, 2013 11:05 am
MK is totally agree with you!
eubanksconcretechin: They boxed i front of 40.000 people and maybe it had a Little impact on Kessler. I love Calz, but he should have given Kessler a rematch!Posted May 22, 2013 10:10 am
MK please……….. Fact almost knocked Calzaghe out ? What fight were you watching ? Kessler boxed as well as well as he could that night but was out worked and out thought. He is a true warrior and gave it his all but every time he upped his game and upped his punch output so did JC . Look at the fight again and the punch stats and stop being so deluded.Posted May 22, 2013 9:48 am
There is hope and there is fact:
Froch fans hope that Kessler has deteriorated, and is a worse boxer than when he, brutally Koed Beyer, utterly destroyed Andrade, and almost knocked out Calzaghe, with devastating uppercuts, BUT
where do they have this from, where is the proof, I believe Kessler when he says he is a better boxer now (Montoya) I have seen that he has Ko punch in both hands, and is at the top of his game.
Since 2010, both fighters have improved, for sure, and I hope this doesn’t become a second bar fight. I want to see Kessler box, in his normal way.
Have you noticed that Froch is irritated, and doesn’t have the confidence no, a few days before the fight. Talk is cheap.Posted May 22, 2013 8:59 am
Froch will not start slow. He addressed his slow start problem at the presser after he lost to Ward, and since then he has started much fasterPosted May 22, 2013 7:32 am
Froch will start slow and lose the first three rounds, then will win the next five rounds, the last four rounds will be even or too close to call, so UD for Froch.Posted May 22, 2013 6:30 am
Ian Darke**Posted May 22, 2013 3:06 am
I can hear ian drake shouting down the Mic whilst all this isgoing on. “STEEL CHAIR!!! STEEL CHAIR!!! STEEL CHAIR!!!!”Posted May 22, 2013 3:05 am
Froch wins this one, via UD, and possible late TKO.Posted May 21, 2013 10:55 pm
Gonzo of nazareth knows what he’ s tslking about. Agree with ralox when it comes to the wtiter of this articlePosted May 21, 2013 7:28 pm
Good analysis! I don’t think Froch will get the KO though. UD for Froch.
Lefhook – maybe, maybe not. In fantasy land i’d like to see the Calzaghe who beat Lacy against the Froch of today. Joe would be the favorite, but that would make for a great fight.Posted May 21, 2013 5:12 pm
Joe Cal would’ve made Carl look like a 5 yr old in the ringPosted May 21, 2013 4:02 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Lol @ Junior.Posted May 21, 2013 3:16 pm
Nice one Junior lol, I can just imagine that going down….Posted May 21, 2013 3:07 pm
A spot on article and prediction. Prime for prime Kessler is just a little bit better. But I feel he has more wear and tear, is sliding a bit now. Froch is at his absolute peak and will be too strong down the stretch. Kessler may fade.Posted May 21, 2013 2:44 pm
kessler in 8Posted May 21, 2013 2:20 pm
Twice!!!Posted May 21, 2013 1:06 pm
BEARS (with a quak quak here and a quak quak there here a quak there a quak everywhere a quak quak)
Froch may havelost that bout to ward but he was resonsible for lading the best shot of the fight in the last round that wobbled buckled and hurt ward. (The quaking is in reference to the p4p duck that is mayweather)Posted May 21, 2013 1:00 pm
lolPosted May 21, 2013 12:30 pm
I say Froch wins with a BRUTAL cobra uppercut, then when he is up on the ropes in the corner celebrating, george Groves jumps in the ring with a steel chair and hits Froch on the back of the head KOing him. Then James Degale cuts a hole in the canvas from underneath, climbs up into the ring and hits Groves with a STONE-COLD STUNNER!!!!!. All-the-while Joe Calzaghe is at an anouncers table beside the ring, not liking what he sees, picks up a championship belt, rolls into the ring, and does Degale over the nut!Posted May 21, 2013 12:15 pm
“When Kessler again returned, he had a scary moment against Allan Green when he was sent crashing down to the canvas late in the first round, which he finished on shaky legs.”
It’s not correct that he finished on shaky legs. He was up on the count of 1 and few secs later he avoided punches from Green and tagged him. There was no shaky legs whatsoever.
Also “and a workmanlike victory against Glen Johnson.”
Let’s not try and re-write history, some of us do remember what actually went on.Posted May 21, 2013 12:05 pm
Gonzo of Nazareth
Edit> That said, he has had to make improvements in other areas to compensate for his physical decline and is definitely better than sub standard one who was pushing his punches against Froch the first time.Posted May 21, 2013 11:52 am
Gonzo of Nazareth
Very difficult to predict this one. Both versions of them are better than the ones they fought. However, I think this is the best version of Froch we’ve ever seen, but that is not the case with Kessler. Prime Kessler is the one that whooped Siaca, Lucas, Mundine, Beyer, and Andrade out of sight and who gave Calzaghe a stiff argument, the one we’ve seen since, especially the awful injured 2009-2011 one, is clearly not the same force he once was. That said, he has had to make improvements in other areas to compensate for his physical decline as is definitely better than sub standard one who was pushing his punches against Froch the first time. If it’s a gruelling encounter, which it no doubt probably will be, does he have enough left in the tank to get down and dirty and win another war of attrition? This is debatable given his lack of top class opposition of the last few years. Home advantage and the fact that Froch is going to be super fired up and gunning for revenge should sway it his way, but then again Kessler is the better boxer and I genuinely believe he still has the power to hurt Froch, as I do Froch him. I really wouldn’t rule out a stoppage victory either way even though both have excellent chins.Posted May 21, 2013 11:51 am
Kessler might be the better boxer and puncher than froch but froch is the better fighter. Froch is a top ten fighter and can be underestimated.Posted May 21, 2013 11:51 am
Brian the dane
Froch is a really tough boxer. he never stops.
But I really hope Kessler wins, and i think he will.
Jimmy Montoya is a world class boxing coach.
In the first fight between Kessler and froch, Kessler had only just started to
train with montoya. and he was a different fighter. He hit Froch with bodyshots, something he never used before.
And i remenber Froch saying to he’s cornermen between round 10 and 11.
“his bodyshots are killing me”.
That was 3 years ago, and now Jimmy Montoya has had 3 years to
make that bodypunch even better.
Look what Kessler did to Magee. A fighter known for his big hard.
Froch did put Magee away, but first in the 11 round.
Kessler destroyed him in 3 rounds, and with what? nasty bodyshots.
Montoya knows that Froch, just like Magee has a very strong chin, so
i think the gameplan is to punish the midsection for the first rounds, to
slow Froch down. And then i actually think that Kessler can be the first to
But with that said, it can just as well go the other way, with Froch tko
Kessler did get rocked against Allan Green. Green is not that good a
boxer, but i do believe that he hits harder than both Kessler and Froch.
I hope its going to be a great fight, both fighters are REAL boxers.Posted May 21, 2013 11:29 am
I agree with most of you:
Kessler has gotten long in the tooth?
Kessler since easily beating slow motion Froch, has gone up in weight to KO Allan Green, and take out the tough Magee, with bodyshots.
Kessler is clearly the technical boxer in this mix, you must be kidding.
There is only one way that the deeply interesting fighter, Froch, can win, by Ko.
This is not going to happen, Calzaghe couldnt do it, Froch couldnt do it -noone could do it.
So we are left with Kessler
Both fighters are a level above 2010, I just can’t see Froch winning:)Posted May 21, 2013 11:26 am
I say Froch wins with a BRUTAL cobra uppercut, then when he is up on the ropes in the corner celebrating, george Groves jumps in the ring with a steel chair and hits Froch on the back of the head KOing him. Then James Degale cuts a hole in the canvas from underneath, climbs up into the ring and hits Groves with a STONE-COLD STUNNER!!!!!. All-the-while Joe Calzaghe is at an anouncers table beside the ring, not liking what he sees, picks up a championship belt, rolls into the ring, and does Degale over the nut! AND THE NEEEEEEEWWWWwwwwwPosted May 21, 2013 11:25 am
testPosted May 21, 2013 11:25 am
thats a real 50/50 fight but if i had to bet would bet on froch this time by either close ud or split decisionPosted May 21, 2013 11:23 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Agree with Lenin, big Kessler fan here but i think Froch has too much at this point…Posted May 21, 2013 11:07 am
I respect both boxers, but I think Kessler saw at least one war too much. Froch should win this.Posted May 21, 2013 11:00 am
Kessler all the way….When the going gets tuff for Carl, he will be even more reckless, and wide open for Kesslers power shots, Look for Carl to taste the canvas, maybe more than once. Kessler by UD, or possible tko!Posted May 21, 2013 10:47 am
Yeah I agree … Froch has the edge here. He has never looked better and Kessler seem to have stagnated a bit. I should still be very hotly contested fightPosted May 21, 2013 10:40 am
Well done article. I agree that Foch has gotten better and Kessler has gotten more long in the tooth. I pick Foch to win.Posted May 21, 2013 10:12 am
I think Kessler has the crisper and straighter punches that reach the target first. Kessler is better equipped to win the exchanges in a brawl or to bo from the outside. In fight one he prevailed by backing froch up and making him uncomfortable because he couldnt operate as well backing up. If Kessler backs him up he wins again. I feel this one might not make the distance eitherPosted May 21, 2013 10:05 am
I cant spilt them, could go either way a real 50/50 fight and I cant wait.Posted May 21, 2013 9:42 am
Froch wins this…Posted May 21, 2013 8:53 am
Kessler points.Posted May 21, 2013 8:49 am
I thought this was a good article until the writer said Froch has superior boxing ability. Im not so sure about that. I do want Froch to win, and i think he will win on points. But its too tight to lay down a solid prediction imo. Teddy E, how is Kessler under rated? He is rated universaly as either 2nd or 3rd in the division behind Soggy and (behind/infront/on par with) Froch. Cant rate him higher than Ward coz Ward beat him, so how is he under-rated?Posted May 21, 2013 8:40 am
Big wow. Pro boxers fight two times or less per year now. Froch by UD.Posted May 21, 2013 8:29 am
Kessler is so underrated.
WISH THIS WAS ON EPIXPosted May 21, 2013 8:07 am
KESSLERPosted May 21, 2013 7:27 am
I agree with a lot of the things written here, but Kessler have improved his bodyshots. And he have more time with his Trainer Jimmi Montoya, (Jimmi became Kesslers trainer after the Ward fight, just before Kessler – Froch).Posted May 21, 2013 7:22 am
Win, lose or draw it’s yet another great match for Froch. I wish more boxers and their managers had the same attitude.
Froch by mid-round TKO.Posted May 21, 2013 7:19 am
Good article and would agree. It was close first time and now it’s slightly edging towards Froch. Froch tko round 10Posted May 21, 2013 7:17 am
Kessler will KO Froch before 8 round!Posted May 21, 2013 7:03 am
Froch by decision.Posted May 21, 2013 7:00 am