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Public Enemy

Canelos people just do not have the confidence in him to have him fight anyone with a tiny chance of giving him a hard fight unless it’s for a once in a life time PayCheck.. ie Mayweather… but Mayweather isn’t budging from 147lbs so forget about it.. Canelo may agree to the 147lb limit because he’s only concerned about the paycheck not actually winning..

Posted May 24, 2013 6:43 am 


Public Enemy

Career changing missed opportunity for Canelo if his mgmt team doesn’t wrap up a fight with Cotto.. he will go on to fight Mandatories for peanuts and most likely lose a few vs Lara, Quinlin, Rosado, Martinez…

Posted May 23, 2013 6:50 am 


PEEJ

Lara’s name got auto corrected on my phone

Posted May 22, 2013 11:12 pm 


PEEJ

My fault he fought Martirosyan. That’s who I was thinking of. He is the one with a brother. Thought it was Matthysse who had the brother.

Posted May 22, 2013 11:11 pm 


te tumbo

“Laura” aka Lara? if so, he was gifted an MD v. Molina who he refuses to rematch but he never faced Matthysse.

Posted May 22, 2013 8:26 pm 


PEEJ

Laura didn’t look good against Matthysse or the little Mexican dude that fights like John Ruiz. Not too sure how he would fair against the higher caliber fighters

Posted May 22, 2013 7:54 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Yes we see you Jimmy Willis, aka Supreme Court, aka Night Stalker. Now crawl back into your mom’s basement.

Posted May 22, 2013 5:01 pm 


te tumbo

RAY, Angulo already KO’d Rosado in summary fashion. Angulo struggles against skilled and poised boxers. anybody who tries to exchange v. Angulo is looking for serious trouble. just ask Rosado.

Posted May 22, 2013 4:35 pm 


te tumbo

Lara should be rematching Molina. the fact that he desperately avoids it indicates that he Knows he lost and doesn’t want to lose in more convincing fashion in a rematch.

Posted May 22, 2013 4:09 pm 


Ray

Part 2

Posted May 22, 2013 3:48 pm 


Ray

Rosado vs Angulo …

Posted May 22, 2013 3:45 pm 


hecdog

Lara beats both Canelo and Mayweather. None of them will ever want to fight him, but once he destroys Angulo, they’re going to have no choice. Lara is highly skilled, and styles make fights. Canelo and Mayweather get beat. Welterweight or Jr.Middleweight makes no difference. Trust me on this, Lara is that good.

Posted May 22, 2013 3:23 pm 


Mex

Q ..what is it that you don’t get ?? Canelo weighs in at 154 and does Mayweather have a belt at 154 or he’s willing to fight Cotto but not Canelo. And like I said before Canelo only came in 170+ to match up with Trout. Never has he came in that high before..

Posted May 22, 2013 3:01 pm 


te tumbo

Q, enough of your shell-game over unofficial everything. Canelo makes weight and that IS ALL THAT COUNTS. besides, how ignorant must you be to not understand that boiling down to an artificially-low weight is the handicap not the other way around. you also insist on ignoring that Mayweather has already won two title-bouts at 154lbs. Canelo’s done nothing at 147lbs and as his rehydration weight indicates, can barely make 154lbs. if this showdown doesn’t happen at 154lbs, it’s simply not worth happening. Mayweather doesn’t believe in catchweights (he couldn’t even make 145lbs to face Marquez. coward?) and what’s the point of Canelo boiling down to 147lbs? not competitive boxing contest, that’s for sure but of course, that’s what you’re hoping for. in which case, you’re no better than your average Pactard.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:50 pm 


Anonymous

Forget Mayweather he makes for boring fights anyway

Posted May 22, 2013 2:36 pm 


Anonymous

Canelo vs Sergio @ 154 lb and Cotto vs winner of Soto Karass / Andre Berto.

Posted May 22, 2013 2:35 pm 


Q

Mex: If Canelo don’t get Mayweather fight he should fight Martinez. – Jajajaj. You think they want those problems? Canelo isn’t trying to fight those types of challenges, he’s trying to fight Jr. WW’s… he won’t even speak about fighting Lara.. FMJ is fighting at 147. Cotto is coming off back to back loses, and Lara is the highest rated 154 option for him. And since when do big WW’s weight in at 172+ on fight night? Ortiz was a big WW against FMJ, and he was only 168. I think Cotto is in a win-win against Canelo anyway, so why not have that fight, for Cotto… and it’s more of a lose-lose for Canelo. I think FMJ Vs. LM is a big fight, and neither man has to sabotage there body.. they’re both right there (Lucas P4P destroys Canelo, is a much better and more accomplished fighter) And if Canelo is a big WW, he shouldn’t have a problem coming down to 147 to fight the top.

Posted May 22, 2013 1:51 pm 


Q

te tumbo: A guy that comes into a bout at 172 gives an advantage to a 160 pounder in GGG but a guy who comes in at 147 to fight at 154 is ok? Canelo has not displayed any greatness, the fact is, he completely gassed in 5 rounds against a non dangerous fighter, and clearly, so if he doesn’t get to fight any Jr. WW’s… he should just retire or something. Don’t tell me about his unfinshed business, because they’re protecting him from people at the weight still (they didn’t even want him to fight Trout, and that was a competitive bout) Now they want him cashing in (or out) against much naturally smaller men instead of fighting a Lara. The coward isn’t trying to clean out his division, he wants to fight guys in lower divisions (FMJ fought twice at 154 in about 6 years, and just fought at 147, he has no reason to have to move back up in weight.) You’re drunk, back to the taco shop.. I’m hungry.

Posted May 22, 2013 1:42 pm 


Mex

If Canelo don’t get Mayweather fight he should fight Martinez.

Posted May 22, 2013 11:11 am 


Mex

PE but Cotto vs Canelo fight won’t happen either.. GBP got Cotto in NEw York for Sept.

Posted May 22, 2013 11:02 am 


pro

LARA is next stop running from this Guy. HE is ready for Canelo. So make this fight happen. Mayweather jr vs Matthysse would great to see on the same card.

Posted May 22, 2013 10:50 am 


Mex

Even Rosado vs Canelo would be nice at 160. But Rosado has to be walking around 180+ so he will be the bigger fighter.

Posted May 22, 2013 10:36 am 


Mex

I agree . Cotto vs Canelo would be nice $$$ but not in New York. Cotto is on a losing streak and Canelo is hot right now. Has to happen in Vegas..

Posted May 22, 2013 10:33 am 


te tumbo

Q, put the pipe down. there was NOTHING “competitive” about Canelo’s fight v. Trout. i sincerely doubt that Trout landed a single meaningful punch. NOT even ONE. you keep tap-dancing around Canelo’s greatness by criticizing him for targeting an ATG who is claiming belts in Canelo’s weight-class, while simultaneously demanding that Alvarez do the likes of Golovkin a favor by moving up to 160lbs(?). despite the fact that Golovkin already has plenty of comp at that weight, you prefer that he target smaller and lighter fighters? if there’s a bigger fighter that Canelo should be targeting it’s Martinez who would take Golovkin to school. Btw, the weight “controversy” is a red-herring designed to protect your favorite fighters from having to face Canelo but as long as they insist on remaining in his vicinity, Alvarez has unfinished business at 154lbs, which is the ONLY official weight he needs to make at the official weigh-in. so stop your crying about rewriting the rules of Boxing in a way that you believe will handicap Canelo. besides, Alvarez will only be stronger at 160lbs AFter he’s swept and unified at 154lbs.

Posted May 22, 2013 9:42 am 


SREDMOND

Canelod win over Trout was not in the same universe at it pertains to dominance as Mayweather vs Guerrero that’s a foolish comment.. Those horrid TX judges can sell that snake oil to the biased or uninformed but most ringsiders and writers saw a close fight.. I gave Canelo the nod because he punched harder but he NEVER stopped Trout from pressing the fight and throwing punches, Trout ad we know lacks snap on his blows… On a given night O saw nothing to suggest that Trout could not eke out a decision over Canelo… Mayweather made Guerrero look like he had begin boxing a year ago… Trying to oversell a good win bu Canelo as epic dominance and a Christian and classy concession to his loss does not change the complexion of the fight… To be fair Trout said he felt that the scores were WIDE… No way he lost 9 fcking rounds when Canelo at times was punching 2x per minute….

Posted May 22, 2013 8:47 am 


SREDMOND

I understand Cotto from an economic perspective but this means Canelos overlooking a division with guys who are in better standing.. Cotto needs a good win, taking him off 2 losses would be another Shane Mosley scenario even though I think Cottos a much better dog than Shane at this point…

Posted May 22, 2013 8:39 am 


junior

Cotto vs Margarito 3???

Posted May 22, 2013 8:17 am 


Public Enemy

What bigger Trophy and PPV event could Canelo possibly have second only to a undoable Mayweather fight then a huge PPV Event vs Cotto in NYC or Vegas??? All the Mex, PR and Boxing Fans would buy it without Question.. especially if Canelo agrees to the Random Blood testing and some weight gain restriction to make it a fair fight that the boxing public would deem competitive.. there’s no bigger bargaining chip or leverage for Canelo than a stoppage win over Cotto when Calling out Mayweather, something Mayweather nor trout could do…. If Canelo doesn’t get the fight with Cotto I can gurantee you that you will see a Paquiao vs Cotto II or even a Mayweather vs Cotto II fight before those guys all call it a day and then who will Canelo have to generate huge PPV numbers???

Posted May 22, 2013 7:20 am 


Pete Wells

I hope GBP strike out with both deals. Oscar needs his wings clipped again & the Redhead kid needs to learn you don’t run jack when negotiating with the highest paid athlete in the country. Floyd runs boxing at the moment & for anyone who don’t think status don’t have its privileges must have never been in charge of anything.

Posted May 22, 2013 6:43 am 


Ghost

Let it happen, Canelo vs Cotto, Canelo will reitre Cotto.

Posted May 22, 2013 5:49 am 


Big Al

Why doesn’t Canelo move down to 147? Does he think he’s on equal terms with Mayweather? He’s just a runny-nosed little kid who still has the Golden Boy and WBC training wheels on.

Posted May 22, 2013 3:59 am 


hecdog

Rigondeaux beats anyone he fight period! He’s the best period. Miguel Cotto needs to call it a day. He has nothing else to prove. He’s done it all, fought wars, won titles and gave fans some great memories. Miguel, it’s time to end your career and stop putting your family through those emotional and painful times. They deserve better.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:46 am 


hecdog

Stupid “your typing too fast” stuff!! Fix this before someone goes nuts!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:39 am 


Mex

Canelo and Mares both undefeated Nuff said!! Canelo always meets the 154 weight limit come weigh in and Mares moved up cause they ducked him ..remember they offered nonito 3million and he said no you idiot!! Nuff said ! NEXT!

Posted May 22, 2013 12:35 am 


Hola a todos

espalda mojada…

Posted May 22, 2013 12:24 am 


Hola a todos

Espalda Mojado: Canelo came in at 172 pounds. Nuff said. Rigo and Donaire bout beat Mares, and Donaire stops him. Easy choice for me. Let that fight happen, Nonito will stop him. Mares went up in weight for a reason. Goodnight.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:23 am 


Mex

Q on crack…mares will smash Rigo and Canelo came in weighing 170+ to match up well with Trout who comes in weighing 170 + most of the time. Canelo only did it once and he usually comes in weighing 164 or 165 like most 154 fighters do even Cotto . Plus trout was a taller and had Canelo on reach to.

Posted May 22, 2013 12:07 am 


Q

Donaire also beats Mares.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:46 pm 


Q

Rigo beats Mares, not even close. Mares left the division for a reason.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:46 pm 


Q

Te tumbo: “Canelo dominated Trout no less than Floyd outclassed Guerrero.” – you’re drunk, back to the taco truck, I’m hungry.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:44 pm 


Q

Ray: People shouldn’t try to diminish Alvarez win against Trout, because it was a great step in the right direction, but he’s now doing what people say Danny Garcia has down, step back again… he had that relatively tough bout with a light punching Trout who couldn’t take full advantage of him gassing… (and his awkward defensive moves that were exaggerated by Trout not following through on any shots) I mean, I perfectly understand why they want that super middleweight fighting Jr. WW’s. As the article says, they will and should avoid Lara. He’ll gas.. and it will get bad for him, and he’ll lose..

Posted May 21, 2013 11:39 pm 


Q

Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing): Canelo is a Super Middleweight, you’re saying he should duck Lara and hurry up to fight the much smaller and steadily aging Miguel Cotto who is coming off two loses? jaja… but I understand. He’s not good enough for you to actually want him to do things like, fight people his own size and stuff like that. His bout with Trout was very competitive and he gassed against a man who had an awkward style, but not a good puncher… of course you want to see him protected, but he’s just another circus act.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:31 pm 


Q

Te Tumbo: “if that falls through(?), Golovkin is a worthy opponent but he shouldn’t be waiting on Canelo. Martinez, Quillin, even Chavez Jr. are there for him to solidify his middleweight claim.” – Oh, but Canelo doesn’t have anything at 154 to handle? Moreover, he comes into fights weighting 170, and he can’t fight guys at 160 like GGG and Sergio Martinez (who would both beat him, and most likely knock him out with his 5 round gassing issue). You don’t make any sense. Always trying to come up on someone elses work, but can’t make anything for yourselves.

Posted May 21, 2013 11:26 pm 


B Red

Te Tumbo, Ward giives Gennady a boxing lesson

Posted May 21, 2013 10:46 pm 


PEEJ

This is good news. This means that Canelo will not be fighting Cotto. So we may get Canelo vs Mayweather next. I still don’t think it will happen next but it will happen but still this shows some hope

Posted May 21, 2013 10:42 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Lara is scheduled to battle Perro Angulo in Cali around June. Should be fireworks. It will be interesting to see how the winner of that showdown will play into this mix.

Posted May 21, 2013 10:37 pm 


B Red

@TeTumbo, Canelo has improved alot , especially on defence. He just needs to work on his stamina. I felt he won the Trout fight, but not as a wide margin that the judges called, plus i dont like the open scoring in texas ya diig? If Floyd fights Canelo it should be a same day weigh in because Canelo is a super middle weight and has good skills. what do you think?

Posted May 21, 2013 10:36 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Lara is not Canlo’s mandatory. Sorry fellas but that’s pure misinformation and 100% false. Lara would’ve had to beat Vanes in order to become Canelo’s mandatory and as you know… he didn’t get the win. However, the WBC is currently seriously considering making Lara his mandatory, so we’ll see. If I were Team Canelo I’d start focusing on making a Cotto fight in NYC. That would be a HUGE notch on his belt, huge PPV, and all the more reason for the boxing public to demand that Mayweather give him a shot at 154lbs or VACATE his titles.

Posted May 21, 2013 10:27 pm 


Public Enemy

sometimes you wonder, who the fk is advising these guys????

Posted May 21, 2013 10:25 pm 


Public Enemy

A Cotto vs Canelo PPV would be Canelos biggest Payday to date period.. that is a fact… the only other fight he could have with potentially as big or bigger PPV numbers would be vs Floyd but we all know that fight ain’t going to happen because Floyd as in the Paquiao instance is not going to budge from his 147lb fight weight… who else can Canelo fight and make as much Money or PPV numbers then Cotto at this point in time??? Lara? LOL come on please..

Posted May 21, 2013 10:24 pm 


Public Enemy

Ray – Cotto will go on to have 2 or 3 more big fights and Canelo will be kickin himself in the ASS for not making the fight with Cotto at this time.. especially when Canelo will probably go on to make some non PPV fights with Lara or someone else…

Posted May 21, 2013 10:02 pm 


te tumbo

B RED, i think it’s a good matchup i haven’t applied much thought too. at least not until Mayweather is definitely out of the picture. Canelo’s smart to fight hard for this once-in-a-lifetime challenge. he’s got an ATG right immediately below claiming belts in his weight-class. moreover, Canelo’s got a lot of natural advantages. Mayweather still dominates, of course, i’m just describing the upside for Canelo. if that falls through(?), Golovkin is a worthy opponent but he shouldn’t be waiting on Canelo. Martinez, Quillin, even Chavez Jr. are there for him to solidify his middleweight claim. Macklin figures to be little more than a placeholder bout. 160lbs isn’t a strong division so Golovkin figures prominently at that weight but quite frankly he fights inexperienced to me. i think a still-prime Martinez takes him to school. maybe even KOs him. can you imagine what a fully-recovered Ward does to him? it may exceed our imaginations. he’s surrounded by deep competition. let’s see which way he goes AFter Macklin.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:58 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Enjoy your career earnings warrior, get out while you can…

Posted May 21, 2013 9:58 pm 


Ray

At this point Canelo vs Cotto may not make sense anymore. Cotto was beat by Trout. Canelo would utterly dominate Cotto and everyone would criticize him. In fact thats the whole reason why he fought Trout, so people wont say hes avoiding or ducking. He did and people still want to diminish that win by saying Trout was never any good.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:56 pm 


Public Enemy

Cotto has already said he’d fight Canelo at 154lbs just demanded a Random Blood testing which he has done in his last few fights and a weight gain limit.. sounds alot better then being asked to melt down t o 147lbs..

Posted May 21, 2013 9:55 pm 


Public Enemy

If I was in Canelos Camp at this point in time considering Floyd isn’t budging on his 147lb demand is to forget about Mayweather and focus on a Canelo vs Cotto fight at 154lbs.. It’s a Win Win for Canelo.. at this stage in Cottos career it’s a low risk high reward fight for Canelo and the $$$ would be huge PPV wise… If Canelo doesn’t do this his manager should be fired..

Posted May 21, 2013 9:53 pm 


Dino

Cotto has been in too many wars, a good dude, Great Champ, a class act….but in too many wars, he’s shop worn.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:48 pm 


Public Enemy

Cotto gave Mayweather his toughtest match and Cotto and Canelo did about the same vs Trout.. a win over Cotto especially a stoppage win would be huge for him absolutely could be used to taunt Mayweather into a fight… Canelo is going to run the risk of losing to one of the other guys in his weight class and Mandatories and that would be a disaster for him trying to get a fight with Mayweather…

Posted May 21, 2013 9:48 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, no F’n way Canelo v. Lara is a $70 PPV either. that’s gotta be another cable prelim to the Mayweather- and Martinez-caliber bouts. i don’t even know if Cotto would’ve justified PPV(?). he’s a glorified gatekeeper at 154lbs. capable but he ain’t dominating Any serious contenders. Trout proved this. Canelo dominated Trout. Canelo v. Cotto doesn’t merit $70 PPV.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:46 pm 


B Red

Te Tumbo, who do you think wins Canelo or triple G?

Posted May 21, 2013 9:46 pm 


Public Enemy

If Canelo could beat or stop Cotto that would be a huge trophy for Canelo and a huge bargaining chip to be able to say that Mayweather did not stop Cotto but Canelo did…

Posted May 21, 2013 9:45 pm 


te tumbo

Canelo dominated Trout no less than Floyd outclassed Guerrero. an imposing combination of speed, defense, footwork, Aaand powerPunching. i believe that “Shocked?!” is the word that Trout used to describe his encounter v. Canelo. i literally lost count of the consecutive punches that Trout was missing but he was missing in bunches of 4, 6, and 8 throughout the entire bout. Cotto is wise to get out of Canelo’s way. a Punishing statement of a BeatDown is the certain outcome. feed Lara to Canelo. THAT will be the scenario of great Cuban amateur and violent seasoned pro that didN’T unfold between Rigondeaux and Donaire. i was wrong. Rigo is bad-ass but it’s only temporary until he faces and defeats Mares. Btw, i haven’t given up on Mayweather stepping-up to the plate. i think it would be a premature drain on his reserves but i would Luv to see that. it’s all about adequate compensation for Mayweather. give him his due and let’s make this thing happen . . . at 154lbs.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:42 pm 


Public Enemy

The fact is that second to Mayweather vs Canelo a Cotto vs Canelo would produce Huge PPV numbers simply because of the PR vs Mexico thingy and the huge Fan Bases both fighters have.. It would be absolutely moronic for Canelo to waste his time waiting on Mayweather and let a huge Mega PPV fight vs Cotto slip away…

Posted May 21, 2013 9:39 pm 


Papo

Canelo on PPV numbers will be a disaster, no matter who he fights, except against Floyd…but only due to Floyd’s popularity. Canelo didn’t look good against Trout and he hasn’t convinced many boxing fans about his potential. He just hasn’t fought any big names, except for light hitting Trout.

I can’t say Cotto can beat Canelo because Cotto’s days are numbered, but I believe he can expose Canelo’s lack of experience. Another thing is that if Cotto feels he has enough in his tank at this point of his career, he should take on Canelo now than wait another year. A year will be a huge difference for an aging fighter and by then Cotto’s career may be over. Let’s get it on…Canelo-Cotto on Sep 28.

Posted May 21, 2013 9:24 pm 


juggernaut

It will be Cotto vs. Mosley 2 at the Barclay center. Floyd is too big for Barclay center

Posted May 21, 2013 9:15 pm 


Public Enemy

You’ll see a Cotto vs Mayweather or Cotto vs Paquiao rematch before you see a Canelo vs Mayweather fight at 154lbs..

Posted May 21, 2013 9:12 pm 


Public Enemy

Hidalgo – that’s a question for Goldenboy and top Rank.. but we know the answer.. because in todays boxing it’s all about the $$$ and not the true top matches…

Posted May 21, 2013 9:11 pm 


Hidalgo

PE, why does it have to be about PPV numbers?

Posted May 21, 2013 9:09 pm 


Public Enemy

Canelo is screwed.. floyd isn’t budging from his 147lb weight class and if Cotto gets booked who will Canelo fight??? that can generate the PPV numbers he’d get vs Floyd or PR Cotto?? Canelo can’t keep stalling and will have to face his Mandatory Cuban Lara… and everyone including Goldenboy know he will lose that fight..

Posted May 21, 2013 9:05 pm 


Wolfslair

Canelo’s people need to slow down and take their time. To much to soon – Canelo will be beat by both Cotto and Floyd.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:54 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Showtime made MILLIONS off the Guerrero Fight. Go take a MATH class. IF the Floyd Fight doesn’t happen Canelo will duck Lara who is his mandatory for Cotto.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:40 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Cotto: The dying face of PR boxing. R.I.P.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:40 pm 


Boxer

Floyd might have no choice but to take the Canelo fight because I know that showtime didn’t spend that much to see him do those lousy numbers,and cotto is a beast he gave Floyd a heck of a fight and the trout fight was close, to be honest I think Canelo vs cotto would be a GREAT fight I’m a fan of both fighters!

Posted May 21, 2013 8:35 pm 


Fight Aficionado

You know what this means. If Floyd ducks Canelo he’ll fight Cotto on Sept 28, once again eating into Floyd’s bogus PPV numbers. LOL.

Posted May 21, 2013 8:23 pm 



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