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Pain

Chavez wins this one. Martinez will get tired of running around and not being able to put alot of hurt to Jr. Then the traps will begin to work and Jr’s punches will explode on Martinez like hell and Martinez will fall. Martinez’s age will show just like on his last couple of fights. Then he will cry at the post-fight interviews and regret ever taking this fight. This is Jr’s big break. Martinez is just a stepping stone.

Posted September 7, 2012 2:34 pm 


halberto

on one good comment right on target, learn from this trash talkers

Posted September 7, 2012 11:17 am 


halberto

No he is older now. It looks like chavez is fighting his grandfather. This kind of article just try to make the fights interesting by putting the fighter with the best chance to win down and the trassh talker always eat this. there is nothing like a young gun. I want to hear your comment after the fight.

Posted September 7, 2012 11:14 am 


GG

traps? His “traps” will go out the window when he eats the left straight lol.

Posted September 7, 2012 5:50 am 


NasaDeen

@Malachi: If I had it, I would make the same bet, LOL.

Posted September 6, 2012 10:04 pm 


NasaDeen

@John: Say it again. It’s always better the second time around.

Posted September 6, 2012 9:59 pm 


NasaDeen

@Tark: I will lay a wager that Roach and Chavez is relying on Chavez to weather the Martinez storm and absorb the punishment dished out until Martinez becomes frustrated, thus falling out of his game plan. Then Chavez can step up his body assault, wearing Martinez down to ultimate defeat. What Roach and Chavez fails to realize is this pilot will be rejected come Sept. 15th (did they not get the memo?)

Posted September 6, 2012 9:55 pm 


NasaDeen

Agree. Anyone one who has stepped into the squared circle competitively has/had the balls to do so, win lose or draw. It’s the epitome of stupidity to called anyone who has done that a “bum”. Unless you have dared to engage in such combat, keep your dumb-bum fighter statements to yourselves. Bunch of beavers posing like they have a pair up in here! Nuff Said.

Posted September 6, 2012 9:46 pm 


NasaDeen

And die he just may. Martinez is not Lee and he’s not the boxer who lose to Margarito.

Posted September 6, 2012 9:37 pm 


NasaDeen

Co-Sign!

Posted September 6, 2012 9:35 pm 


NasaDeen

Dang Pat2, you took my whole sentiment. You are so correct, sir. A good boxer will ALWAYS beat a good fighter, all day, every day. Nuff Said.

Posted September 6, 2012 9:33 pm 


Cab Driver

Setting traps to hurt him to the body? Sounds like roach is already throwing in the towel.

Posted September 6, 2012 8:38 pm 


Patrick2

Everyone loves a brawler — so many give brawlers more credit than they deserve. The problem for brawlers is when they meet a boxer who can punch. Because if a boxer has enough pop on his punches (doesn’t have to be K/O power — just enough to get/keep respect) the brawler will get beat — skills beat thrills. And that’s what this fight is about — brawler vs boxer, and Martinez being the boxer with plenty of pop.

Posted September 6, 2012 8:26 pm 


Patrick2

But Martinez just isn’t a 168 pound guy — his frame is too small. He’s a 154-160 guy. If Jr moves up, he’ll have go after the Wards, Dawsons, Frochs, Geales, etc. What to guess how he’ll do against that talent, POWER and SIZE?

Posted September 6, 2012 8:00 pm 


Patrick2

Margarito’s “hard” was most likely the plaster in his hand wraps. So I wouldn’t give much credence to Margarito’s victory over Martinez. (Note: Margarito’s win loss record after the hand wrap scandal.)

Posted September 6, 2012 7:56 pm 


te tumbo

i don’t have to wait for a Chavez Jr. loss to say that he would do better v. Martinez at 168lbs. in fact, making weight has become one of the primary items of intrigue leading up to this fight and a legitimate concern for Team Jr.

Posted September 6, 2012 7:55 pm 


Patrick2

How about working on Jr’s defense? Right now Jr is a punching bag — Lee couldn’t miss him. If the ring is normal size (the fight with Lee it was a phone booth), Martinez will have plenty of room to play — peppering Jr all night long. Jr will most likely get wobbled a few times (Martinez has shown he packs a punch), but it’ll likely end with Jr’s face swelled up and/or on cuts. After the fight, Jr tells the press he’s moving up in weight — that making 160 took too much out of him — and that’s why he didn’t do very well against Martinez.

Posted September 6, 2012 7:50 pm 


HHLondon

Martinez fights at distance, takes his time finding his range and timing and Roach and his nonsense is going to get exposed once again.

Martinez will get to work around the 5-6 and will catch him late.

Another Roach spoilt brat about to get a lesson!

Posted September 6, 2012 7:15 pm 


te tumbo

“. . . loves to dish it out, . . .” but can he take it? IMO, Martinez is too civilized to tolerate a bloody-brutal brawl for long. particularly if it includes unrelenting shots to his body and unexpected and scoring punches from long-range (e.g. Jr’s. win v. Fredo). UNlike Duran or wife-beating, wife-murdering Monzon.

Posted September 6, 2012 6:19 pm 


te tumbo

“This isn’t Andy Lee that Chavez Jr. is fighting here nor Marco Antonio Rubio” and Jr. is no Pavlik, Cintron, or Williams, which are the most prominent names on Martinez’s ring-resume. IMO, Jr’s. timing and legitimate potency represent the biggest threat to Martinez since an unknown Antonio Margarito took it to him Hard and Often for his “W”. Martinez is not willing to die in the ring. guys like Margarito and Chavez Jr. are.

Posted September 6, 2012 6:11 pm 


I_AM_ZT

No he’s not

Posted September 6, 2012 6:09 pm 


fate1ez

i think people are being a bit delusional in terms of who chavez jr . has fought. name one fighter he has fought who was elite. every guy he has fought were contenders. chavez never was an underdog. he beat andy lee and everyone thinks he will destroy martinez. listen andy lee got tko by vera a few years ago. i dont think andy lee is a measuring point. martinez will be too slick and too fast for chavez. all martinez has to do is keep the fight in the center of the ring and make sure he works the body. chavez will have his moments thru his aggressive style and im sure he will use bravado to mock martinez in hopes of baiting him into a brawl. its his only chance. martinez by tko rd. 6

Posted September 6, 2012 5:41 pm 


Dave

Speaking of which, I bet if JC jnr fails to make weight, he’ll just pay the fine to have an unlimited weight advantage.

Posted September 6, 2012 5:38 pm 


night train

I like Chavez’s chances here he’s got a crushing body attack, it’s too bad he’s not clean though, if he was, there’d be no reason not to take all the tests. That said, I think Martinez is over rated, he has one good KO, Williams, but that’s offset by his KO loss to the brawler Margarito, who probably was not fighting fair either, wow, can this sport ever be cleaned up ?

Posted September 6, 2012 5:14 pm 


TARK

It’s not that Martinez beat Williams, Pavlik, Barker and Macklin. It’s that he punished them severely. Once he started getting to them he didn’t stop. He gave them the beating of their lives. He’s like Duran and Monzon in that he loves to dish it out, “How’d you like that one?”

Posted September 6, 2012 4:05 pm 


E in Denver

Martinez has no control over his opponents drinking habits. Pavlik even at 100% couldn’t handle lateral movement(remember the Hops fight?). Also Pavlik was in his 20′s w/ ONE loss to a legendary MW. A poor comparison to a 40yr old Mosley who was turing out increasingly worse performance for that last 5 years(w/ the exception of a “deer in the headlights” version of Margarito). Martinez may be overrated but that also shows how overrated his marquee opponents were including Pavlik.

Posted September 6, 2012 3:50 pm 


hookoffthejab

teacher junior wouldnt beat any of those guys ….

Posted September 6, 2012 3:32 pm 


TEACHER

Whom ever wins will have to fight the other Middleweight Champions to claim they are the best and for the interest of boxing, I think the toughest are as follows:

Golovkin (he beats both of them)
Geale (Martinez beats Geale, Geale looses to Chavez)
Pirog (looses to both Martinez and Chavez)
Quillin (Quillin looses to both)

Posted September 6, 2012 3:07 pm 


john

So a loss is a loss ? How does that end Roach’s career or even discredit his credability ? How many WINS does he have ? Whats his record ? Thats the problem with boxing today , everyone is afraid to lose . There aren’t too many fighters who have (0) losses in the history of boxing. If we didn’t put so much emphasis on NEVER LOSEING the top guys would fight each otehr more often and boxing would stick around…

Posted September 6, 2012 3:04 pm 


john

This fight will not go 6 rounds. Sergio by KO. Just too, too many weapons – He will dictate the action the whole way. Chavez is a ”PLODDER” no footwork, no side-to-side motion, he comes straight in and bangs. He is alot better than I thought he’d be and I thoght he’d lose to Lee for sure. But he is simply out of his league here. OR To put it another way, Martinez is in a league of his own. I don’t remember the last fighter who could K.O. a guy with a jab. Other than a Klitschko. And when Jr. does that thing where he invites a guy in, that mexican bravado move , then covers-up until the other guys stops, then starts punching back, he’s done right there because Martinez has mastered ko ing around that type of guard. I hope Roach sees this. Also, his godfather can’t disallow his PED test this time so he has to fight without them unlike the LEE fight.

Posted September 6, 2012 3:00 pm 


TJ

IF FREDDIE ROACH loses this bout, it will mean his three high profile proteges would have all lost their latest encounters: Pacman (contentious), Amir Khan (hammered) and now Jr.
Where will that leave the so-called best-in the game trainer, Roach?
The only way Chavez Jr. wins this is by Maravilla suddenly getting old overnight or if he comes in overconfident and forgets the basics….
Freddie is bold /w the setting traps statement, but he should realise that Maravilla will be setting just as many traps for his understudy…. Hands down, looking at the floor, going for walks etc… all designed to pull Jr. on to his counters.
Jr. will have a massive in-ring weight advantage on the night, but if Maravilla sticks and moves and only stays in the pocket to get off a couple of shots and moves away, I doubt if that will come into play on the night.
Jr. will look to get close and lean on and hug and manhandle Maravilla, squeezing the strength out of his legs, whilst walking through as many bombs to get there.
I understand the strategy, but the amount of flush headshots this 26 year old has taken from the likes of Vaden, Rubio and even Manfredo Jr. is alarming for his long-term health…. I’m amazed that Freddie hasn’t taught him or Khan to roll /w the punches like a Duran in order not to eat flush shots….
Any many more of these for either will lead them into the pugilistic dementia club…

Anyways, I’m expecting a good competitive fight up to midway where I see the experience and better skillset of Maravilla taking over and him punishing Jr over the latter half of the bout to take a decision, although nothing would surprise me if Maravilla gets robbed by the judges on the scorecards as I believe Rubio was a couple of fights earlier….

I only hope that we, the public get confirmation that Chavez jr. attends his pre and post fight testing w/o the b.s. shenanigans of the Andy Lee fight and the other dubious ones before that.

Posted September 6, 2012 2:52 pm 


FM

Everyone has a plan until they get hit…………
MIKE TYSON

Posted September 6, 2012 2:49 pm 


Anonymous

Martinez act like he’s fought nothing but the best and Koed them and so does his crazy fans. Okay he stopped Williams which was good-I’ll give him that but Kelly was in no shape to be fighting so he gets to live off that win as well. Kelly wasn’t in any kinda shape to be fighting-IDK if he slept on Martinez that bad or he really needed the $-I do know Martinez was a pretty big underdog though-he made it by a Kelly Pavlik that wasn’t even 75% himself-Kelly @ 100% destroys Martinez oh well anyway now we have Barker (who is he) and Macklin (who is he and he’s coming off a lost). Who the hell is this super comp Martinez is suppose to have? All he really has is Williams-cause if you give him props for beating Pav then lets give Alverez props for beating up an OLD ASS Mosely who was waaaaaay past it. I don know if Chavez will win, but I pray he does-I’ve watched both fighters and I like what I see in Chavez and I like his chances of not only beating Martinez but also stopping him but he better watch out cause @ some point Martinez will be wishing apon a Star again to land that winging left that gets him outta trouble. If Martinez lose I bet he makes up an excuse cause I know his BUM fans will

Posted September 6, 2012 2:24 pm 



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