Hopkins could still beat Kessler… It would be something like the Cloud fight.Posted May 29, 2013 7:53 pm
Froch beats Hopkins… Froch is no Ward — but on the other side of that he’s also not as bad as Pascal or Cloud… He’ll set a pace Hopkins can’t match and slowly trash him.Posted May 29, 2013 7:51 pm
Froch vs. Hopkins where?Will Carl fight him in a neutral venue?Froch may just be too rough for the elder Hopkins to enjoy boxing,froch may realy make BHop consider retirement.He is not the type fighter Bernard likes to fight with.Froch is too busy and gets real rough on the inside.no disrespect for the great B Hop.Posted May 28, 2013 11:18 am
Hopkins is NOT stylistically exciting but what makes him watchable is seeing a 48 year old fighter force 28 year old fighters to make excuses… The fact that Hops is still viable and a serious threat to Froch at close to 50 says a TON bout Hopkins Greatness !!Posted May 28, 2013 3:45 am
Never though I’d day this but Froch is making me start to respect Calzaghe. At least he was prepared to move out of his SMW comfort zone and fight a legend in America. Frochy don’t even want to fight him at a catchweight at home 5 years later.Posted May 27, 2013 8:43 pm
By the way, I thought American referee Pete Podgoski (Chicago) did a great job in there. Hardlt even noticed him. Superb.Posted May 27, 2013 2:46 pm
Ward and Bernard Hopkins are a borefest. Lets bring back boxing not drive boxing fans away.Posted May 27, 2013 2:27 pm
If Froch wins it’s because Hopkins is old so there’s absolutely nothing to gain for Froch in my view and i don’t want to see it anyway as it would be grab and hold when Froch gets close to him however at this moment in time all roads lead to Froch Vs Ward 2Posted May 27, 2013 8:12 am
“Ass whipping from Calzaghy”??? I watched Cal get a split decision in a close and boring fight where Cal was dropped hard.. KEEP IT REAL SON!!Posted May 27, 2013 8:03 am
Andre Ward = Effective but dull andAlways fights at home = Sven Ottke…..WARD IS THE NEW OTTKE!Posted May 27, 2013 5:26 am
Hopkins is one dirty fighterPosted May 27, 2013 2:56 am
Providing Froch can fight at his present weight, Hopkins gets MUGGED!! If Hopkins wins, I’ll have to admit, he’s on another level thats outright SUPERB!! OR, he’s on drugs. Thing is, I dont see Hopkins winning even on drugs, his style PRESENTLY – is way to conservative. Froch will make him WORK, either by having Hops run while covering up, or by forcing him to fight. Hopkins doesnt need to get hit upside his head at this stage of his life, he should use his bean for some other business endeavor. Froch aint no Pavlick. Somebody in his inner circle has gotta be tellin’ him he’s NUTS to risk his health by fighting this guy! Maybe a catch weight will deplete Froch just enough for Hops, like Pavlick.Posted May 27, 2013 12:58 am
@KidBlast, Bhop woulld be the one mugging Froch on the inside and catch him with lead rights on the outside. Easy workPosted May 26, 2013 10:06 pm
:twisted:Posted May 26, 2013 9:57 pm
Though I agree that Froch throws wide shots, but Hopkins could not get inside those shots because he is a fossil.Posted May 26, 2013 9:57 pm
It’s agood thing I’m turning in Red or I’d eat you alive with my counter punches (aka counetr posts). Suffice it to say that Froch would sap Hopkins like a Chicago cop saps a Hippie. ya digPosted May 26, 2013 9:56 pm
Kid Blast, Froch throws wide punches and is reckless in the ring. Bhop would eat him up alivePosted May 26, 2013 9:51 pm
Trouble, what’s your major mal fucntion lad?Posted May 26, 2013 9:07 pm
Warching Hopkins is like watching steam come off the grass in the moring. Very slow and very boring.Posted May 26, 2013 9:06 pm
B-Red. Cut me some slack Jack. Hopkins would get mugged like he was walking through Central Park at 3 in the moring.Posted May 26, 2013 9:05 pm
Kid Blast, your just being biased against Bhop. You know Frochs style is tailor made for BhopPosted May 26, 2013 8:51 pm
So you guys have some un~postng method on here heh? I’ll have to learn that one. Kinda sucks though. If someone isn’t winning the debate…they remove their posts. Whatta joke!!Posted May 26, 2013 8:49 pm
Amen to the author of this Article. Bring on Hopkins-Froch, it would be more interested especially that Froch winning the fight against Kessler. This would be a good fight for Hopkins to even fight Froch in the UK, and prove to the UK fans why Calz would not get him a rematch, especialy if he shout convincingly. This fight in the UK with Hopkins winning would put him way beyond reach for Mayweather in fightin good competition. Mayweather is still trying to find a easy fight, but Shaffer and Show Time trying to feed him Canelo, but Mr. Mayweather is not going drink that Cool Aid.Posted May 26, 2013 8:46 pm
Hope ya not talking about me. My first name isn’t “Imbecile”Posted May 26, 2013 8:43 pm
Then you’d wake upPosted May 26, 2013 8:28 pm
Except Froch would be Hopkins and Hopkins would be Pavlik.Posted May 26, 2013 8:26 pm
This would just be Hopkins Pavlik all over againPosted May 26, 2013 8:18 pm
Analmous=UK RetardPosted May 26, 2013 7:23 pm
Well this was an interesting article except for the ridiculous notion that hopkins-froch is a good fight, can’t agree sorry, hopkins is the most unwatchable fighter around and would not make for a good match up. at least ward has a lot more to appreciate. froch-kessler III would be exciting no doubt though i think kessler will not fancy it. other than that, groves looked decent with his undercard win, despite what some brit hating writers on this site talk BS about. could be a decent scrap and have huge interest, in the UK, and i think groves would genuinely present some problems for froch though i would expect froch to win on the cards or by stoppage. other than that he can smash up bute again, prove too strong for pascal or look at LHW which he seems unlikely to do.Posted May 26, 2013 6:45 pm
Richard Abril V Brandon Rios
Richard (Cuban) wins all 12 rounds. Clearly wins the fight. The whole world know it.
Nope … Brandon (American) wins the fight.
Biggest robbery I’ve seen in years. Made in the USA.
No surprises … USA home of corrupt/fixed boxing.Posted May 26, 2013 6:29 pm
INCORRECTAMUNDO, Hopkins would be butchered by Froch like a Dover Sole.Posted May 26, 2013 5:57 pm
Yeah I forgot the Fight would be in the UK. NO way Hopkins WINS a decision there. Froch by ROBBERY.Posted May 26, 2013 5:53 pm
B Red :twisted:Posted May 26, 2013 5:42 pm
Hopkins would have as much chance beating either MK or Froch as the man in the Moon. Hopkins always calls out the winners of these kinds of fights, but then ends up fighting some slacker like Cloud or Murat. Look at it this way. Dawson whipped Hopkins and then Ward slaughtered Dawson. Think what Ward, Froch, or MK could do to Hopkins within that context? Hopkins is far too savvy to fight any of these guys. He will fight easy marks until he loses or reaches 50, whichever occurs first. Hell, the last time Hopkins stopped anyone in the ring was God only knows when.Posted May 26, 2013 5:41 pm
Hopkins the worlds dirtiest fighter 2nd is Ward. Just watch the Kessler Ward fight. A real head but fest !Posted May 26, 2013 5:26 pm
Hopkins another boring hugger. Froch should fight guys who wanna fight like Kessler, Cleverly, Maklin, Charvez, these are guys who like to fight, they like wars, this is what makes boxing exciting to watch, Hopkins is a spoiler, he’s probably the most boring boxer (not a fighter) in the sport. Exciting fights are where it’s at, boxers like Hopkins, Mayweather, and Ward are so boring I usually fall asleep. But a good scrap gets me on the end of my seat no matter what country the boxers are from. I just love to see a great fight. My two favourite fights ever were, Barrera v Morales 1, and Hagler v Hearns (fantastic while it lasted the best ever) those are the kind of fights fans love. Watching to great boxers beat the living heck out of each other and then show genuine sporting respect at the end of the fight, like Froch and Kessler did last night is great. They are a credit to the sport and a third fight on neutral ground in a front of the massive crowd would be great for boxing. In the Olympic Stadium in Germany would be a good choice for both. With neutral world class judges and a top Ref. That’s the fight I wanna see. Froch v Kessler 3 … awesome.Posted May 26, 2013 5:22 pm
Hopkins should put the fight in England for two reasons. One that is where it makes the most money. Probably the biggest money fight for ether guy at the moment. Cleverly would sell for either guy as well and where I don’t live in England I think Froch is the more popular guy. This could be a big fight in London that I would expect to sell out almost any stadium. Second Hopkins is still invested in Golden Boy and expanding their influence across the pond would be a good business move. Its probably not a PPV event either way in the USA so put it where it will make the most money.Posted May 26, 2013 4:08 pm
Hopkins knows hot to fight without getting hurt, I heard before the Cloud fight that he shouldn’t be taking that fight. Froch is better than his critics give him credit for and far better than Cloud but he also makes a lot of mistakes and is there to be hit. Kessler landed over 50% of his shots last night, Hopkins is still an accurate puncher who makes you pay for your mistakes. Froch doesn’t have the hand speed of Dawson nor are his feet as fast to frustrate Hopkins. Works his jab well enough but is there to be countered. I couldn’t make a prediction but I think the fight is close either way. I would not worry for Hopkins health and I think this is the exact fight he wants. He can’t beat Ward and that fight won’t sell. This fight is an event.Posted May 26, 2013 4:01 pm
Correctamundo is correct. Hopkins by submission. No contest no matter where it’s held.Posted May 26, 2013 3:40 pm
Hopkins really doesn’t want to take that fight. He’d maybe get seriously hurt. Froch wouldn’t let him breath, no Froch is def not the guy you want at 49 years of age.Posted May 26, 2013 3:31 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Even better Tim…Posted May 26, 2013 3:03 pm
Better to ignore him, response is what he is looking for.Posted May 26, 2013 2:58 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
KKK-Get lost idiot…Posted May 26, 2013 2:56 pm
I actually really like this fight. B-Hop in his prime would win a decision no doubt in my mind but at this point, and B-Hop is still very good, Froch might be too strong and his conditioning is still right there like it always has been. I think the styles mesh to make for a decent fight but just think about the press conferences. Oh the trash talking, the one liners it will produce will be worth it alone, well for those of us that don’t cry every time something offensive is said.Posted May 26, 2013 2:53 pm
Hopkins would make Froch look like a novicePosted May 26, 2013 2:50 pm
“If” Froch is ALLOWED to keep his weight that he has currently used to defeat Kessler – in the 2nd fight – Hopkins will suffer a DEVASTATING TKO loss at his hands! “If” Froch uses 3 punch combinations with the last punch being the BOMB, Hopkins will be pounded into retirement! He can open up when Hops is against the ropes in protection mode! This is one of those fights were I’d be shocked if I was wrong! This catch-weight crap that Hopkins wants – to deplete Froch – won’t help Froch @ all. If Froch takes away from muscle that he worked so hard for, against Kessler, then Hopkins may certainly win. Frochs potential depletion can be a depleted Roy Jones scenario, all over again, with Hopkins taking on the role of Tarver. At this stage of the game, Froch WILL DESTROY Hopkins if he chooses to keep his weight that he used to beat Kessler! He should tell Hopkins to meet him where he’s comfortable!!! Froch is good, but VERY telegraphic in his punch delivery, Hopkins knows this, so he’ll try to take away Frochs strengths, which is his improved endurance AND good power!! Froch shouldnt give away anything in a fight of this magnitude.Posted May 26, 2013 2:12 pm
The funny thing is, if the fight happens, Hopkins will win.Posted May 26, 2013 1:46 pm
As long as it’s not Ward v Hopkins then we should all be able to breathe a sigh of relief. Imagine that snoozefest!!Posted May 26, 2013 1:43 pm
Froch’s defense is so bad I honestly believe Hopkins will take him to school. I watched Froch vs Kessler Ii just thinking how badly a prime 168 pound Roy Jones would have just dismantled both of these guys. I believe Hopkins could get with a good nutritionist and still make 168…. love to see his old ass take Froch’s 168 pound titlePosted May 26, 2013 12:43 pm
Hugh :) …Posted May 26, 2013 12:18 pm
High – Dawson is the Ring champ at 175. Good points though. Froch must beat Ward to be the true champ at 168. And Dawson to be the true champ at 175. At the moment he’s had some fantastic wins, but at no point has he been the top dog in any weight class. Calzaghe simultaneously held the linear Supermiddle AND Light Heavy titles.Posted May 26, 2013 12:18 pm
In the proper days of just one World Champion and one belt per division – Carl Froch wouldn’t have even been World Champion.
Not a big Calzaghe fan but he beat the best guy in the SMW division and the best guy in the LHW division.
He also beat a prime version of Kessler as opposed to one very much past his best.
The point I’m making here is – Joe beat the two best guys in 2 divisions and was recognised as the best man at 2 weights when he retired and held the Ring belt in the two weight divisions which is the only that means anything anymore.
If you hold the Ring it means you are recognised as the best.
Carl isn’t even recognised as the best man at one weight.
He really needs to get an A+ guy like legend Hopkins on his CV or certainly a Ward to prove he would have been a World Champion in the days of just one belt.
As many as saying – he’s the best of the rest right now, not the best of the best.
To be the best you have to beat the best Carl, that is Hopkins and Ward.Posted May 26, 2013 11:52 am
I’m sick of people (Froch fans) telling me in one bretah Froch is a great fighter then in the same breath making excuses for him not to fight – Hopkins or Ward saying – its a boring match up etc.
Does Froch want to be the best? To be best you have to beat the best and that’s legend like Hopkins or the REAL SMW champion.
Stop making excuses about – it’ll be a boring fight, just because you don’t believe Froch can handle their styles. If you’re a great fighter you can handle every style but Froch clearly can’t.
In oldern days of one belt Froch wouldn’t have even been a World Champ.
Does the guy want to be the best of the best – coz right now he’s the ‘BEST OF THE REST’.Posted May 26, 2013 11:40 am
Froch wants no part of Hopkins that much is clear. If Ward won’t come to the Uk then Hopkins will and as stated he’ll do a catchweight, still Froch doesn’t want to know.
Froch is happy being no:2 in his division and that’s what his legacy will say – one weight no:2 in his division that turned down the opportunity to beat a legend even though the legend was prepared to come to Uk and do a catchweight.
Froch only wants fights he thinks he is starting favourite to win like a rematch against a Kessler that everybody agreed was someway past his best.Posted May 26, 2013 11:36 am
Tomato Can Stan
Right now there is a power struggle going on between Ward, Froch, Kessler and Bute. I want to see who is the best of that bunch before bringing a 50 year old man in. Ward and Froch are the two best in my opinion—let them do it again before moving on, so its clear, and let Kessler fight Bute for a sort of elimination.Posted May 26, 2013 11:29 am
Hopkins is almost 50 years old! Hope he doesn’t get seriously hurt if he fights Froch. Would be kind of funny if Bhop was somehow able to pull this one off. He’ll definitely need every single trick in his dirty old book though.lol:)Posted May 26, 2013 11:19 am
Do I dare ask what the “Hopkins myth” is?Posted May 26, 2013 11:17 am
After reading the poston here most of you guys should move on the watching MMA or something. Only thing exciting to you is a slug fest, so may you should try starting a new sport slug fest matches. Because from what I can tell, anything that resemble the sweet sicene none of you guys an interested in. To Tell the truth Froch has had a long career he should at this point fight whoever is going to bring him the most money so the he could retire soon and live comfortably. He has nothing to prove to anyone, he’s given the fan enough great battles. People need to learn to respect the sport of boxing and the men who compete in it.Posted May 26, 2013 11:16 am
1. Froch needs to stay the hell away from Ward! Ward to too skilled, too gifted and too strong for the aging Froch. A Ward rematch/schooling would only remove the luster Froch has been able to build during his late career. 2. A Kessler rematch makes sense from a business sense (it would certainly sell), but Kessler seems to be out of gas — now unable to keep a strong enough pace for a full 12 rounds. 3. The smartest move would be to take on Hopkins at 170 pounds. It’s a winnable fight for both fighters, so the intrigue would be there. Hopkins is tricky and still moves well enough, and could keep the flat-footed and telegraphing Froch missing most of the night. Froch’s work rate could pose problems for Hopkins as Hopkins needs time to be able to set the pace. So I agree: Bring on Froch vs Hopkins!!Posted May 26, 2013 11:15 am
Roy was laid out twice before Cal got to him. With Johnson he barely woke up.Posted May 26, 2013 10:33 am
What the hell do people mean froch won’t get any credit if he beats Hopkins because he is 48? Last I checked he was #2 lhw and ibf champion who happens to be 48. Not to mention first ballot hall of famer and legend in the game. But who is Hopkins when you have Cleverly and Groves.Posted May 26, 2013 10:31 am
I agree with one of MY Nutsack Garglers. I’ll take Hopkins.Posted May 26, 2013 10:30 am
… Yep, the Welshman, Joe Calzaghe. RJJ may have been well past his best, but 11 rounds to 1 is impressive. NOBODY outboxed Roy like that, before or after Joe fought him.Posted May 26, 2013 10:27 am
In his ENTIRE professional career, who is the ONLY fighter that Roy Jones Junior was unable to win more than one round against??…Posted May 26, 2013 10:24 am
Horrible fight fot froch. Hes 35 and has only a few fights left. We all think of him as a badass rock em sock em crowd pleaser, he should take fights that will strenghten that view now so we are still talking about him in 20 years, which is what i for one feel he deservesPosted May 26, 2013 10:23 am
Froch should move up in weight. Agreed. But Froch should not fight Hopkins or Dawson. These guys have awful styles for the Froch for the fans. I would love to Froch against:
– Tavoris Cloud (great action fight)
Hopkins would be a terrible fight for the fans. Dawson would be a terrible fight. I also think an Andre Ward rematch would be awful.
Froch should make money with all action fights. Hopkins can’t spell the world action.Posted May 26, 2013 9:50 am
God hopkins always finds a way to win in a dirty ugly boring kind of way. I think Froch will take him, constant pressure from his power jab should do the trick.Posted May 26, 2013 9:23 am
Anon-Cal got a split decision that’s it. A win yes but a rematch was deserved and he balked from it.Posted May 26, 2013 8:03 am
yeah but that would mean the end of frochPosted May 26, 2013 8:00 am
Hopkins by submission, ha that made me laugh.
how about hopkins v andre dirrell? they’d both finish the fight pregnantPosted May 26, 2013 7:16 am
Anon, Roy was past his best several years before he fought Joe. Don’t believe me, then read Calzaghe’s autobiography that he wrote 3 years before the Jones fight happened where he admitted that Jones would have been a good fight, but that Jones is past his best. Jones has been a shot fighter since the first fight with Tarver… I’m a big Joe C fan and was there in Cardiff for the Kessler fight, but Roy Jones Jnr in his prime would have been impossible to live with. Even the shadow of Roy Jones put Joe down…Posted May 26, 2013 7:05 am
The Greatest Prophet of them all !!!Posted May 26, 2013 6:58 am
That’s not true DMX I care amd I am somebody !!!Posted May 26, 2013 6:57 am
Would make more sense for Ward to fight Hopkins . . . .
Nard should be calling out guys in his own weight division instead of handpicking guys smaller than him who have said they will never fight at 175.
Why’s Nard not chasing a Dawson rematch? Why’s Nard so scared of Cleverly? If he’s gonna pick on smaller guys then why not Ward? Maybe cause he’d get his clinching, headbutting, spoiling ass handed to him, maybe that’s the reason.Posted May 26, 2013 6:44 am
Anon, credit where credit is due. In his peak, Jones would have taken Hopkins and Calzaghe out in the same night.Posted May 26, 2013 6:20 am
While hitting the canvas in both fights. Kinda shows you how those old men would of handled him in their primes. He should be proud of that “dominant” split decision he got against hops. So much so he refused a rematch on his own turf.Posted May 26, 2013 6:19 am
calslappy – that’s original, yeah, he beat everyone put in front of him. Unlike Roy the punchbag Jones. And Bernard “I ain’t never gonna lose to no white boy” Hopkins! LOL … and he beat those two overrated over hyped bums as well. What was it Roy said after he got totally hammered by Joe “He slaps a lot harder than I expected.” LOL … Roy couldn’t even last a round with Danny Green! Hilarious.Posted May 26, 2013 6:15 am
So froch and calslappy have the same fighting style do they.Posted May 26, 2013 6:00 am
matthews – yeah fight fans wannna see a real fight, not some hugging, holding, crying to the ref, old man, what part of that don’t you understand you twat?Posted May 26, 2013 5:58 am
As opposed to stood in the opposite corner recovering from an imaginary low blow for 12 rounds… Yes please.Posted May 26, 2013 5:56 am
That old man is ranked where in the lhw division and holds what title. Lets not pretend this is Jones or toney.Posted May 26, 2013 5:55 am
I dont seem to recall the Hopkins/Pascal fight being to boring. I understand. Froch fans want an opponent to stand right in front of froch to play rock em sock em robots.Posted May 26, 2013 5:53 am
Mick the Marmalizer
It would have to be @ 168Lb!Posted May 26, 2013 5:52 am
No Matthews, I’m personally scared that I’ll stay awake till 4 in the morning in the UK, fighting the urge to fall asleep waiting for the fight. In round 4 I’ll drop off along with the rest of the arena when old Man Hopkins starts pretending to be hit low, injure himself or some other bs excuse to get his breath back and then rinses and repeats every second of the remaining 8 rounds. It will be a close fight, because Hopkins only engages for 2 minutes of every fight he’s in these days, and it’s difficult to get a decision based on 2 minutes of action.Posted May 26, 2013 5:48 am
No, would rather see Froch-Kessler 3 (on neutral turf), Froch-Ward 2 (in UK) or even Froch-Groves. Hopkins is not in many exciting fights. Great fighter but id rather see Froch in an exciting fight.Posted May 26, 2013 5:46 am
You scared froch will lose. I understand. He is Hopkins type of fighter.Posted May 26, 2013 5:44 am
The only thing this fight would prove would be that Froch can be in a boring fight. Hopkins should turn it in, his last 5 fights have been dire to watch, and the 50 before that weren’t great…Posted May 26, 2013 5:39 am
Hopkins by submission !!!Posted May 26, 2013 5:37 am