I see Good
Happyboy the GREAT and I mean GREAT Lennox Lewis was sent into DIZZYLAND by a BUM. Rahrockman. So anything can happen, I was SHOCK to see it on TV myself. Revenge is sweet after SAUNDERS put Vlad on his ass, he made a mistake BIG mistake. He GLOATED and TAUNTED the K brothers. Vitali was ENRAGE, after 2 times SAUNDERS paid Vitali step aside money not to fight WHICH IS PERFECTLY LEGAL Vitali finally said NO the 3rd time.. watching the fight I was terrified WATCHING the BEATING and I mean MERCIFULL BEATING Vitali put on Saunders. The fight lasted 8 rounds. It should of been STOP earlier. That was SAUNDERS last fight. Last year Saunders was murder by a coward. Shot. RIP CoreyPosted June 8, 2013 2:19 pm
I see Good
Hildago Maybe Canelo should send TROUT the bill that Trout never paid. For doing the SOUL TRAIN SHUFFLE. ha ha ha I am sure he will give the same lesson to CHERRY PICKER, free of chargePosted June 8, 2013 2:10 pm
I see Good
Happyboy Larry Holmes fought BUMS for 10 years.. Not larry Holmes fault at all. There was NO competition out there to speak of. same for the K brothersPosted June 8, 2013 2:03 pm
“You give the round to the guy who did the most damage, not who worked his ass off but was ineffective … You don’t get E for effort”. No. i believe it was a 10-8 round that you conveniently granted TriniDud v. DLH after a final round of plodding, floundering, and flailing in sheer impotence. can’t even say that TriniDud “worked his ass off” but he was definitely ineffective.Posted June 3, 2013 2:51 am
…..”I can’t see the judges giving Canelo rounds against Mayweather based on Canelo landing the harder shots but getting outworked.”
Why not??? If Canelo lands 8 hard shots in a round and Floyd lands 11 soft ones, Canelo will get the round based on more damage done. That’s how professional boxing works.. You give the round to the guy who did the most damage, not who worked his ass off but was ineffective … You don’t get E for effort.Posted June 2, 2013 1:28 am
“Didn’t you say Floyd would never fight Alvarez in the first place, lol. Now that you see its reality you have to run to something else, What A JOKE!!!!” If you say so, Boxing God. I also said that Floyd would beat Canelo no matter what weight they fought at, if they did fight.Posted June 1, 2013 12:43 am
“The sisters?” If you say so Happyboy. I guess a rotten little panty wad like you ought to know.Posted June 1, 2013 12:34 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Happyboy.. Do you not like white boxers then is that it? And how exactly do you expect someone to take a comment like that? And there were NUMEROUS reasons why your ”White Hope” comment was both ignorant and wrong. See if you can work out what they are and then come back to me?
And King Daddy G was an absolutely fantastic amateur beating a whole host of the world’s elite fighters – and you can’t cherrypick who you fight in the unpaid ranks like certain boxers do in the pros – all of which he achieved with a very pro oriented style, and is clearly very talented indeed and has great potential; hits like a fcking truck with both hands, is technically very good too and knows how to set things up and create openings for his bombs, seemingly has a very solid chin too, bosses top level comp in sparring, including Floyd’s next opponent, Angulo and Kid Chocolate among others, and is has clearly one, if not the, most avoided fighters in the sport and been ducked by numerous top fighters (do some research), and last but not least would present a SEVERE test to Floyd and one I would give Floyd huge props for taking. Don’t you want Floyd to take big risks and be involved in fights where his opponent stands a good chance of knocking him his head into orbit around the Stratosphere if they connect with one of their bombs?Posted May 31, 2013 7:27 pm
Sorry Gonzo until there are some descent names on his resume he remains another white hope. Don’t get me wrong but truth is there haven’t been many great white boxers around for a while now. The sisters are the only ones that come into mind who are suppose to be great and they haven’y faught anybody and in sport, you are only as good as your competition, losing to Ross Purity, Brewster or Saunders is awful in my books especially when you have no victories against any HOFmers in your resume to substantiate your claim to greatness. All these HW are clowns and bums Haye, Chisora, Chris Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Brewster, Mormeck, Adamek etc imagine a HW making an excuse about a toe causing him to loose a fight the old skool boxers would kill themselves laughing. Some big men these bums are.Posted May 31, 2013 6:29 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
jimmy willis.. Do you think I’m totally stupid? That I don’t know who you are? lol. To quote the great Andre ‘Son of God” Ward.. ”You’re going to have to come better than that” lolol.
The Dragonborn’s hide is too thick for the fangs of ALT attacks to puncture. And even if it weren’t, the Dragonborn is totally immune to their venom too. lolPosted May 31, 2013 6:11 pm
Now…there’s NO room for excuses when Floyd taps that ass!!!Posted May 31, 2013 12:34 pm
GONZO,STFU YOU PIECE OF COW DUMPPosted May 31, 2013 12:12 pm
Gonzo – ” ”I’ll fight anyone, anywhere, between 154-168” the problem with King Daddy G, his fighting nobodies he needs to start fighting some big names with real threat between 154lbs – 168lbs but NO King Daddy is still picking fights with Mack ” The Knife” instead of a host of better boxers. I ain’t impressed seems like another white hope till he proves himself.Posted May 31, 2013 6:19 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Sergy Rabchenko is #1 manditary contender with the WBC @ 154Lb so how about Canalo taking a trip to Europe to expand his exposure. A fight with Britain’s Brian Rose in the UK wouldn’t go a miss either & should be a breeze for him.Posted May 31, 2013 1:33 am
Well like I said there is much more money at 154 so why not fight there? People can say they can make certain weights all they want but until they actually weight that weight it is hard for me to believe. Not to mention like I said, 154 is where the money is at. I like GGG, he is a beast from what I have seen and we will get a little more info about him when he fights Macklin but I think 154 is out of the question.Posted May 31, 2013 12:51 am
Ernie- u constipated broa?…. dont nobody wanna know ur problems. 2lbs can be a big deal to some fighters, why else would they negotiate the weights? Dont be retarded.Posted May 31, 2013 12:46 am
It’e Me, Ernie
Hell, I plopped a two pound Tark about an hour ago, no big deal…Posted May 30, 2013 10:49 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
King Daddy G used to weigh about 160 up until not too long ago but he’s filled out a little more of late and now weighs in about 168 come fight time. He sees to think he could make 154 though, as does hie trainer.
I believe King Daddy G could do anything if he set his mind to it. I really do.Posted May 30, 2013 10:16 pm
I thought Trout won also but it was very close and I could t argue with Canelo winning. I can only argue about that one judges cardPosted May 30, 2013 9:35 pm
Until I see him make 154 I won’t believe he can make 154. There is more money at 154 than there is at 160. So just hard for me to believe. Same thing with MartinezPosted May 30, 2013 9:34 pm
Canelo weighed IN at 153.5 last time SO he actually only has to lose 1.5 pounds….and he’s not coming off an 18 month layoff like Floyd was when they asked him to come in 2 pounds lighter than he DID 18 months prior.Posted May 30, 2013 8:52 pm
What I’ve heard of guys doing is have a blood van set up within a few blocks. Do the weigh-in. Smile and fliex your muscles. Try not to pass out while you’re doing the media show and stare down. Make your way back to the van. Put the blood back in. That can work for the last 2 pounds you need to lose. The first 18 pounds you’ll have to sit in that sauna and chew Jalapeno gum until your mouth is parched and you can’t spit cotton.
Is that good for you? HELL no. That’s why somebody would rather pay a 600,000 dollar fine rather than lose those last 2 pounds that might really hurt him.Posted May 30, 2013 8:25 pm
“please choke yourself to death now. Right now.”-For WHAT??? Choking myself does not erase the FACTS.Posted May 30, 2013 8:21 pm
Flomo say everyone who see through Lieweather’s lies Filipino. Filipino and wacist.Posted May 30, 2013 8:18 pm
Sorry, Supreme Court, I meant to say “me and a zillion other boxing fans and experts thought Donaire would win.” Not Rigo as I erroneously stated.Posted May 30, 2013 8:03 pm
Correctamundo, please choke yourself to death now. Right now.Posted May 30, 2013 8:01 pm
You gotta admit, even die hard Mayweather fans didnt expect him to take this fight right now…maybe the 3rd or 4th fight into his six-fight deal. Either way, Canelo asked and he received, and for the most part on his terms it seems. I’ve always said that only two things beat Mayweather, himself (fighting too long past his prime) or going so far up in weight against a good fighter, that his skills wont be enough to over match his opponent. Aside from a fight with Martinez or even Ward, this might be as close to the latter as we’re going to get. Canelo is skilled, young, big for his weight class as it is, and can bang. And I dont completely discredit Canelo’s fight against Trout, it wasnt his most dominant performance, but he showed movement that we havent really seen in previous fights. Bottom line is that fighters of Mayweather’s level dont reach back and fight the up and coming young lions…he’s fought Ortiz now Canelo. Many doubted the ageless wonder in Hop against Cloud and we saw what happened in that fight. Mayweather has a similar kind of opportunity in this fight.Posted May 30, 2013 7:59 pm
“with that bitter diatribe” No bitterness here, te tumbo. See, my jabs do hurt. They are very effective, aren’t they?Posted May 30, 2013 7:59 pm
“FA.. Canelo didn’t win a round in his last fight against August Trout on my card. It was a total schooling.” Then you’d best stop drinking while watching fights, Gonzo. There’s no way in hell that Trout swept every round of that bout. NO way in hell. Now, toss me a Coronoa, would ya? :)Posted May 30, 2013 7:56 pm
Supreme Court, I’m Filipino? LMAO! What gave you that idea? LMAO! Sorry to disappoint you but I certainly am not and if I was, I wouldn’t hesitate one second to say that I was. Regard;ess. when was the last time I gushed over Manny Pacquiao? Please go waaaay back in the ESB archives and find it because that’s how long ago it was. AS for Rigondeaux, yeah, me and a zillion other boxing fans and experts thought Rigo would win. Has nothing to do with nationalities, cultures, or ethnicities–just logical thinking, which for that fight proved to be not so logical after all. So it goes. But thanks for the psychoanalysis. At least I didn’t have to pay for it! :)Posted May 30, 2013 7:52 pm
Then the 0ther p4p fraud, Nonito Donaire, a guy who has the same size as Broner, but who has been fighting 122 lbers, was destroyed by Rigondeaux; he claimed it was weight the factor, yet he stays at that weight to continue to prey on smaller fighters…
Hey Hidalgo, no bad feelings, I am simply psychonalysing your bitterness…Posted May 30, 2013 7:20 pm
He also fights at 160. Should Floyd just move up to 168 and challenge Ward also?Posted May 30, 2013 7:07 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
He should step up and take on king Daddy Golovkin. Step up, fall down.. Sleeping. zzzzz King Daddy G do that to people you know.. he put ‘em to sleep. Real talk.Posted May 30, 2013 6:34 pm
You know that canelo will rehydrate up to 450 lbs and grow up to 7 feet come fight night. Boy some of you talk crazy talk. Canelo wont loose 2 and half gallons of pure water and live to talk about it. Maybe you guy should go on the alien or bigfoot web sites and tell stories. Maybe come back at christmas and tell how santa flys around with deer.Posted May 30, 2013 6:34 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
FA.. Canelo didn’t win a round in his last fight against August Trout on my card. It was a total schooling. And I had a very interesting conversation with Public Enemy the other day where he so astutely pointed out that Trout had Canelo backed up against the ropes in one of the rounds, quivering in mortal fear. It even looked like he was out of it for a second and that the ropes where holding him up. And judging by the expression on the referee’s face, it looked like he was about to jump in a stop it to me. I also remember Miguel Cotto’s brother in law’s son nearly put Canelo to sleep with a little love tap on the whiskers too. That dude was only a blown up bantamweight toPosted May 30, 2013 6:29 pm
CORRECT. There are no steps UP from Marquez for Floyd. Everyone else is a step DOWN….including Pacquiao. That’s why Marquez is #3 P4P while Pacquiao is #7 P4P and Canelo is #10 P4P. But since the Fans are clamoring for it Floyd is giving it to them. Like I SAID a few days ago. Floyd is on the Jackpot side of the Fence now where you get to gobble UP as MUCH money as you CAN…….Everyone else is on the Credibility building side of the Fence.Posted May 30, 2013 6:26 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
FA… Lol. I actually mean’t Floyd was stepping up him comp by taking on the prepubescent Ginger Mexican. My bad for not making that clear in my original post though.Posted May 30, 2013 6:22 pm
“(Floyd is) a step up from the part time Algerian pasty chefs, 67 year old retired Nepalese dentists, and jobless Ugandan lifeguards he’s been facing of late.” – LOL Gonzo. I think beating Trout was a step up, and convinced Canelo he was ready for a slickster like Floyd. Before Trout he’d call him out but he needed proper seasoning after too much soft comp.Posted May 30, 2013 6:08 pm
“Every once in a while this sport thows me a curve ball. I really have to admit that didn’t expect this fight so soon. It should be a good one, even at 152.” – Cosign Tomato Can. I didn’t think Floyd would step up to the plate because historically he’s not done so since Castillo. Catch weight or not, it’s a good fight. This will likely be the first Floyd PPV I buy in many years.Posted May 30, 2013 5:42 pm
How is Floyd giving Canelo a “gift” by not attaching a rehydration clause? These catch weights are an impediment enough and dehyrdration is dangerous because of less liquid surrounding the brain, which raises the likelihood of concussions and brain damage. If a fighter makes weight that’s all that matters.Posted May 30, 2013 5:39 pm
Te tumbo stop beasting these underlings with with verbal mechanics. They’d rather make this a racial issue than a sweet science debate.Posted May 30, 2013 4:17 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
lol Ernie.. Yes beavers have teeth all right.
Here’s interesting bit of info I’ve just found on them.
To obtain food and building materials, beavers are well known for their ability to topple large trees using nothing but their specially adapted incisor teeth and powerful lower jaw muscles. Beaver teeth never stop growing, so they do not become too worn despite years of chewing hardwoods. Their four front teeth (incisors) are self-sharpening due to hard orange enamel on the front of the tooth and a softer dentin on the back. Therefore as beavers chew wood the softer backside of the tooth wears faster, creating a chisel-like cutting surface.Posted May 30, 2013 4:15 pm
yes,add pac 2 that list of divas…he the worst of them all…wouldnt fight morales rubbermatch at135,then moved up rite after…all the catchweights n delayed the bradley fight by watching basketball…got robbed bcuz his”diva”attitude pissedthe judges off,so they punished him….rite or wrong..marquez showed pac that no fighter is bigger than the sport…any 1 i leave out BG?lolPosted May 30, 2013 3:44 pm
Every once in a while this sport thows me a curve ball. I really have to admit that didn’t expect this fight so soon. It should be a good one, even at 152. Canelo will be going to school.Posted May 30, 2013 3:42 pm
JImmy- U still posting bro, lol? Haven’t I gutted you enough throughout the years? Still a Tito fan?Posted May 30, 2013 2:52 pm
Falcon- did you accuse Pacquiao of being a diva for using catchweights??? Never!Posted May 30, 2013 2:49 pm
Well said Hidalgo: exactly!Posted May 30, 2013 2:47 pm
Hildalgo- Didn’t you say Floyd would never fight Alvarez in the first place, lol. Now that you see its reality you have to run to something else, What A JOKE!!!!Posted May 30, 2013 2:46 pm
Te Tumbo- I see you have come to the light mi amigo, lolPosted May 30, 2013 2:43 pm
So it will be a small welterweight against a big super middleweight!! or even worse a former super featherweight vs a light heavyweight!Posted May 30, 2013 2:39 pm
I wouldnt call 152 a catch weight! Canelo will still be 170 fight night and will not be drained fight night! He will be at his best n so will floyd! Floyd by ud! But it wont ne easy!Posted May 30, 2013 2:26 pm
Its funny how Floyd was “scared” since he was ordering tests but now Pacquiao is doing the same thing. LMFAO. He’s a hypocrite but HEY getting knocked out can smarten you UP.Posted May 30, 2013 1:26 pm
It’s funny how Mayweather said Pacquiao’s win over Cotto didn’t count because it was at a catch weight but now he is doing exactly the same thing lol. He’s a hypocryt but fair play this is a good fight.Posted May 30, 2013 1:20 pm
PERFECT time for Floyd to FLIP FLOP. Pacquiao just FLIP FLOPPED on saying that he “only takes test ordered by the commision” and now he’s ordering his OWN tests like Floyd DID against HIM. Rios should SUE and WIN…..Pacquiao never asked for any tests BEFORE but now he’s asking for them for Rios. That’s defamation of Character………Like I SAID PERFECT time for Floyd to FLIP FLOP…but he was SMART enough to let Pacquiao FLIP FLOP FIRST. Bravo!!!! Well played!!!Posted May 30, 2013 1:18 pm
Floyd is not to BE out smarted. He knows that over 20 lb advantage can trump SKILLS. Dropping Canelo 2 lbs helps ensure that he isn’t outweighed by more than 20 lbs. on Fight night. IF its a SKILLS contest Floyd WINS going AWAY. He’s going to stay on his bicycle while landing counters for the first 5 or 6 rounds then once Canelo starts to become extremely frustrated and desperate from all his Fans BOOING from lack punches landed, he will DISSECT the young BOY for the SURGICAL UD.Posted May 30, 2013 1:14 pm
“Though Floyd was smarter than this, but instead he comes out as a hypocrite again. Bashing Pac for doing catchweights when he just did the same thing lol!”
But Pain, it’s “what the fans wanted,” don’t you know that? LMAO! Two-faced Floyd limited himself to fighting in the state of Nevada when he was having an inject-fest with xylocaine–I mean he had to–it was illegal in every single other state. He cheated on his weight against Marquez. He sucker-punched Ortiz to a KO win. He’s ragged on Pacquiao for doing catchweight fights, but now in what is possibly the biggest fight of his career, it’s a catchweight fight. I guess we can assume he does PEDs too. After all, he whined about Pac doing PEDs so much that Pac sued him over it. He’s good at saying one thing, then doing another. But he never fought Pac–THAT would have been the biggest, richest fight of his career. Yes, Mr. Fork-tongued has given the fans “what they wanted.” Really?Posted May 30, 2013 1:07 pm
Better yet, Canelo should emulate DLH’s approach on fighting Floyd. Keep that jab working you noob!Posted May 30, 2013 12:31 pm
Though Floyd was smarter than this, but instead he comes out as a hypocrite again. Bashing Pac for doing catchweights when he just did the same thing lol!
So Pac-Cotto is valid now, right? Pac-Margo too? Fvck yes they are.
Floyd-Canelo is a 70/30 fight in favor of Floyd though. Until that big punch from Saul.. KABOOM baby!
Canelo will just have to emulate and improve on what Castillo and Cotto did.Posted May 30, 2013 12:28 pm
iward fights every 1..cleanes out division..mattysse on his way 2 doi the same..rigo 1 of the best fighters i have ever seen with under 20 fights..great ametuer background translated well 2 the pros..broner moving 2 ww with no catchweight….no”diva” in them..or special treatment…and yes ,3 of the 4 could compete in any era….i see floyd as hands down best fighter in the world and alltime great…but he’s a diva…..as great as sugar ray was,he was the 1 that started this catchweight crap(laLonde) n special negotiations(hagler)…but once in the ring,both he n floyd are as tuff as they come….its a shame that boxings young”uneducated fans seem 2 like these actions…must be the diva in THEM..lolPosted May 30, 2013 12:25 pm
Skills wins fights.
Floyd couldn’t make 144 against Marquez, weighed in at 146. The dude is a solid welterweight. I respect him for taking this fight at 152 which is a perfect compromise. Anything less would cripple Canelo. I see Floyd boxing like he did Baldomir and Guerrero. Using his feet, winning a close decision.Posted May 30, 2013 12:24 pm
i meant to add, booooPosted May 30, 2013 12:20 pm
pacquiao was not a title holder above a catchweight. mayweather is.Posted May 30, 2013 12:19 pm
“Don’t hide your bias behind that line, it’s ridiculous.” Hardly. The word “catchweight” says it all. You know that.Posted May 30, 2013 12:17 pm
mayweather is gona run like a crackhead. u aint gona catch a crackhead.Posted May 30, 2013 11:45 am
IMO being heavier doesnt equal to being slower. Not always. Canelo does have good speed. Hes taller so of course he will be a bit heavier than your average welter.Posted May 30, 2013 11:35 am
Hildago that happens when you have a habit of challenging smaller men. Remember ODLH then he lost to Manny the rest is history. Canelo has challenged a lot of smaller men, should we name them for you. Plus wouldn’t be fair if we assumed that Floyd didn’t make 144lb against JMM but he never gained 21lbs overnight. It was evident in the Cotto fight when he couldn’t weigh more than 151lbs. Hildago ask him to fight GGG and see what happens when he fight a guy his size, get paid peanuts and get KTFO. He rather pick on a guy who weighs 146lbs and get more loot in the bank. Funny part is the “154lbs Floyd would still beat Canelo” so Floyd sacrifices everything and Canelo gets everything he wants. Don’t hide your bias behind that line, it’s ridiculous.Posted May 30, 2013 11:32 am
Again funny to read the comments made about Canelo’s rehydration weight. It started from 165lbs then 167lbs, 169lbs, 170lbs, 172lbs…180lbs? Whats next 200lbs? Lets keep it real. I know Canelo comes in heavy but it seems folks just keep exaggerating his rehydration weights, they keep climbing and climbing.Posted May 30, 2013 11:31 am
Please don’t compare Matthew Hatton to Mayweather. This writer is insane by say that Mayweather “blew it” by not having a rehydration clause in the contract. Has it occurred to the writer that the heavier that Alvarez comes in the more it will benefit Mayweather?
Floyd will be as fast, if not faster, than ever. Alvarez will be at a disadvantage the heavier that he is. First, Alvarez will be weaked by coming in to the weigh-in 152. Then he’ll balloon up as far as 172+. Between the weaked state and then the extra weight will work against him. What some people will do for $.
And please stop talking about Pacquaio. It’s OVER,,FINISHED. NEVER HAPPEN. If if were to happen, an easy victory for Mayweather at this point.Posted May 30, 2013 11:18 am
Mbuyi: This Falcon girl will continue to complaint and reminisce crap talking about the past. His son will remember Floyd Mayweather Jnr.Posted May 30, 2013 11:17 am
Falcon please go back to your basement and watch archives. We don’t care whether you still live in the 70’ & 80’s. Basketball will never be as it once was 85-95 look at the influx of the NBA stars from 2003 up to now. They can compete in era. Same as boxing we can never go back to mid 70’s until 1990. Mayweather, Jones, Hoyfield, Chavez, Pacquaio, Whitaker could’ve competed in any era and be successful. Think about it, we have Broner, Ward and Matthysse, Rigo is old already. In the near future you’ll still be complaining about boxing. We even had a run of ODLH, Vergas, Tito, Wright, Forest, Quartey & Mosley. You keep complaining for the sake of complaining.Posted May 30, 2013 11:12 am
The next thing people will expect Floyd to fight super middleweights. Shouldn’t Canelo be fighting man of his own size? Oh no…I want another name that will be build to fight Floyd next when he defeats Canelo, all haters will point to the catch weight. Folks Floyd is a welterweight.Posted May 30, 2013 11:08 am
This kid will be rocked; he will be knocked down and will not have the will to continue with the fight because he will be so behind the scorecard and will be missing all night. There is only One Mayweather.Posted May 30, 2013 11:05 am
At first appearance, for the money, Alvarez has made a good choice. For the fight, he has made a very bad decision. For his legacy, at least at this point in time, deciding to fight at catchweight is the worst thing he could do, because he will definitely lose to Floyd Mayweather Jr. The extra two pounds that Alvarez has to take off will make a difference and that differrence will heavily favor Floyd. Ask Manny Pacquaio.
I am very disappointed that the so-called, self-appointed “GOAT” isn’t great enough to fight Canelo as a full jr. middleweight. “I don’t believe in catchweights” Mayweather is once again looking to make his fight as safe as he can. And my money says that Jr. will NOT allow any weight-busting clause–at any price–as he spontaneously requested and was granted for his fight with Marquez (But if he does, the pentalty will be prohibitively high).
All the onus, however, should not be put on Mayweather. Canelo could have said “no” to a catchweight. But you can bet that GBP has put heavy pressure and persuasion on him to take the fight at a catchweight. After all, GBP and Floyd Mayweather Promotions, as well as Showtime, stand to make a bundle from this fight, and all three of these entities are business affiliates and/or partners.
I am greatly disappointed. I thought Canelo was going to hold out for a no-limits jr. middleweight fight. I feel that Floyd would have beat him even without a catchweight, but it would have been a much better, much more competitive fight. It would have been a fight that brought out the best in both boxers, but now we are not going to see that. Catchweights impose physical and mental limitations. They are designed to give advantage to one fighter over the other. Alvarez will forever regret taking this fight at catchweight. Thee’s no two ways about it. Even if he never admits it.Posted May 30, 2013 10:56 am
i just miss the days when fighters were fighters n didnt act like divas…marvin johnson,mike mccallum,mustafa hamsho,bobby chacon,victor galendez,saad muhamed,sal sanchez azumah nelson..perfect examples…worl class fighters who i’m sure is ashamed that this great sport is becoming more like WWE with each passing year…atleast gus like warf,froch,malignaggi,garcia n mattysse still carry that tradition…fight the best without”diva attitude n treatment…canelo dosent even deserve this fight..floyd is so talented..n very tuff,once in the ring…but he’s actin more lie”miss jackson” these days with his fears of facing the best in their prime…2 yrs from now,canelo will be on his way out as a fighter once exposed as a “never was”Posted May 30, 2013 10:36 am
A sprinter doesn’t rely on size. The legs will do the trick. Bigger Canelo is, less fleet of foot he will be. Strength means nothing if you can’t catch the guy.Posted May 30, 2013 10:32 am
Canelo needs to think of a strategy. If he traps Mayweather against the ropes Mayweather will (illegally) just turn his back as usual.Posted May 30, 2013 10:29 am
Rod..i c ur point with robinson…although carmen basillio didnt have a problem moving 2 middleweight 2 fight the greatest fighter 2 ever lace the gloves….duran,chavez n arguello all had fights where they weighed in day b4…duran moved up 2 weight classes 2 beat the 2nd best sugar ray..arguello didnt get special treatment when he fought pryor..even punkass broner movin up 2 weightclasses with no”special treatment”…floyd can wake up out of a dead sleep n whip canelo’s ass…just 2 good..didnt floyd do catchweight with marqez..n not make weight.?..if canelo comes in heavy like floyd did,can u imagine the crying”team hypocrite” would do? didnt hypocrite floyd bash manny 4 catchweight? in the history of boxing with a catchweight 4 a major fight,ONLY FLOYD MAYWEATHER DISRESPECTED THE SPORT N CONTRACY..now he expects every 1 else 2 play by the rules but him…its not like he’s fighting a proven fighter…canelo been bullying smaller fighters his whole career..and it will show in this 1 sided beating..not a superfight..canelo could weigh at 160 n still dont have a chancePosted May 30, 2013 10:20 am
Canelos gonna look TERRIBLE against Floyd the kids too damn slow and inactive… Floyd Fighting the FAR younger man now is smart.. Why wait till he is 37 or 38 after nattering Canelo FMJ can go back to WW where he belongs and finish his career..Posted May 30, 2013 9:51 am
@ Falcon. All of the fighers you named fought in the era of same day weigh ins so whomever they fought was within 2 to 3you pounds of them at fight time not 23for pounds heavierPosted May 30, 2013 9:48 am
Floyd too smart, too fast. Mayweather in a boring land one punch and run for 12 rounds fight. Canelo will chase and chase and chase but not find Mayweather. Anyone remember Chavez vs Whitaker? That’s how this is going to play out. The fight fans want to see Broner vs Mayweather! Make that one happen.Posted May 30, 2013 9:41 am
@KOrnerman: Diego Corrales and Philip N’dou as the most obvious examples. Along with everyone else he stopped when STEPPING UP IN WEIGHT. My god ESB has become flooded with idiots whose knowledge of boxing spans back to three months. pitifulPosted May 30, 2013 9:35 am
It’s Me, Ernie
I never knew beavers had teeth, although I have heard Badgers give poor head…Posted May 30, 2013 9:25 am
Mayweather, Obama, Lebron James, it doesn’t matter whatr they do. The other races will never admit they are great.Posted May 30, 2013 9:23 am
can u imagine duran,robinson,arguello or chavez accepting a catchweight fight?lol,….floyd should have done fight at 154…those 2lbs wouldnt matter…floyd will make this fight look easy…..skills r 2 wide apart…n floyd pushes himself in training,canelo at 22 dosent have the desire 2 pay the price in the gym…..this is a mismatch thats being called a super fight…looking more 4ward 2 mattyss n garciaPosted May 30, 2013 9:04 am
Mayweather would break his hands if he tried to stop Canelo.Posted May 30, 2013 8:47 am
Mayweather better stay off the ropes. It better be a huge ring with a tight canvas. I’m sure they’ll be using 10 oz gloves as well. Mayweather will win a competative fight by way of UD.Posted May 30, 2013 8:47 am
I will go on record saying NO WAY he stops Canelo, wins yea stops no, Mayweather only stops guys his size or smaller, when’s he stopped a bigger man? never.Posted May 30, 2013 8:14 am
Olu G. Rotimi
I am happy to go on record to say that Mayweather will stop Canelo Alvarez on the 14th of September. Team Canelo have made a fatal mistake in taking this fight. Floyd Mayweather senior wanted Canelo Alvarez now rather than later and they would have been wise to take this fight late 2014 or better still 2015 now they have written a cheque they can’t cash. Watch what you ask for as you might get it.Posted May 30, 2013 8:11 am
The ode for the beavers had me laughing I musty admit.Posted May 30, 2013 8:08 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Make sure you promote beaver awareness people.
And remember that you take your own life in your hands when you enter the domain of the beaver.Posted May 30, 2013 8:06 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Thanks Junior.. Some say I’m the best poster on this site you know. Although I’m far too modest and self-effacing to say so myself even if I know for a fact they’re right and that everyone else on here agrees with that assertion too, which they CLEARLY do. lolPosted May 30, 2013 8:01 am
hey Tumbo, guess we have a NEW Catchweight King…right?Posted May 30, 2013 7:46 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
OK, thanks so it is at a catchweight. I should’ve known. lolPosted May 30, 2013 7:12 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
lol Public Enemy. Rats ain’t no joke either. We have rats the size of small sheep over here in Europe. My friend Mad Micky the drug dealer was bitten on the bollocks by a 3ft rat last Christmas as he was making his way home from a Dr Who convention. Thanfully he survived the ordeal but he did come away from it minus a bollock and with a new found respect for threat rats pose humans. lolPosted May 30, 2013 7:09 am
Floyd didn’t have to come in at 154lbs.. he could’ve come in at 152 and let Canelo come in at 154lbs.. but the rehydration limit of 160lbs would’ve been way better for Floyd.. and fighting Canelo at his 154lbs would’ve removed any excuses when Floyd easily beats Canelo… now they’ll have an excuse when Canelo loses.. the CATCH WEIGHT!!!!Posted May 30, 2013 7:04 am
The 152 catchweight was dumb makes it look like Mayweather is trying to hobble Canelo.. and without a rehydration limit Canelo can still balloon up to 170+lbs.. taking on Canelo at 154lbs no catchweight and a rehydration limit of 160lbs would’ve been 100x better for Floyd.. no talks of a Catchweight and everyone would understand trying to limit Canelos insane weight gain after the weighin…Posted May 30, 2013 7:01 am
Floyd cant please you guys so f#+! It.Posted May 30, 2013 7:00 am
Floyd cant get up to 154 for example the Cotto weigh in. Mayweather came in at 152lbs for the weigh in but on fight night he was 151lbs..good choicePosted May 30, 2013 6:57 am
The fact that Canelo is an orthodox fighter automatically gives Mayweather the advantage cause that’s what he’s used to fighting. I admit Canelo’s power and combos do serve as a threat but later on Mayweather will nullify anything Canelo throws. Mayweather by UD. Good choice for weight also..so Canelo cant hydrate as good as he wantsPosted May 30, 2013 6:51 am
Yes its a catchweight of 152lbs with no rehydration clause?? odd choice.. Mayweathers people didn’t think this out properly.. a 154lb weight with a 160lb rehydration clause would’ve been way better for Floyd…Posted May 30, 2013 6:51 am
NYC Subway Rat takes out that Crazed Beaver… They’re bigger then Cats.. and derail trains every once and a while when one gets hit.Posted May 30, 2013 6:50 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
I would actually give Floyd props for taking this fight even though it’s well documented that I can’t stand him. I don’t think the Ginger Mexican will win as he’s a good seven or eight years before his prime and good two or three away from puberty. However, it’s definitely a step up from the part time Algerian pasty chefs, 67 year old retired Nepalese dentists, and jobless Ugandan lifeguards he’s been facing of late. Is this a catchweight bout though?Posted May 30, 2013 6:35 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
so I think it’s imperative to promote beaver awareness and people educate themselves on the risks beavers can pose to both them, their loved ones and the family dog.Posted May 30, 2013 6:26 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Edit> so I think it’s imperative to promote beaver awareness and people educate themselves on the risks beavers can post to both them, their loved ones and the family dog.Posted May 30, 2013 6:25 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Now I’m not advocating vigilante mobs head down to their local river and start smashing up beaver dams or decimating local beaver populations… far from it in fact. Beavers are beautiful creatures and an integral part of the ecosystem. However, they are wild animals and they can be dangerous, especially in mating season, so I think it’s imperative to promote beaver awareness and people educate themselves on the risks beavers can post to both them, their loved ones and the family dog.
Always remain beaver aware when you enter into the domain of the beaver!!Posted May 30, 2013 6:25 am
Personally I think Mayweather would’ve done better agreeing to fight Canelo at 154lbs with a 160lb rehydration limit… no one would’ve been able to say he tried to hobble Canelo like Paquiao did to Cotto with a catch weight and he wouldn’t have been dogged by people because he made sure Canelo couldn’t balloon up to 172+lbs…Posted May 30, 2013 6:19 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Stop Press!! Beavers attack people in Belarus, fisherman dies.
OSTROMECHEVO, Belarus (AP) — The fisherman wanted his photo shot with a beaver. The beaver had other ideas: It attacked the 60-year-old man with razor-sharp teeth, slicing an artery and causing him to bleed to death.
It was the most serious in a string of beaver attacks on humans in Belarus, as the rodents have turned increasingly aggressive when confronted by humans after wandering near homes, shops and schools. “The character of the wound was totally shocking for us medical professionals,” recalled village doctor Leonty Sulim. “We had never run into anything like this before.”
Once hunted nearly to extinction in Europe, beavers have made a comeback as hunting was banned or restricted and new populations were introduced. In Belarus, a former Soviet nation between Russia and Poland, the beaver population has tripled in the past decade to an estimated 80,000, according to wildlife experts. That has caused beavers increasingly to wander into populated areas, creating more grounds for conflict.
The Belarusian emergency services said that this year, for the first time, they have received a rash of reports of aggression by beavers, which can weigh up to 30 kilograms (about 65 pounds) and stand about a meter (three feet) high. Officials have responded to some calls by sending out crews to drive away the animals, often by spraying them with water from a fire-hose.
The fisherman, who has not been named at the request of his family, was driving with friends toward the Shestakovskoye lake, west of the capital, Minsk, when he spotted the beaver along the side of the road and stopped the car. As he tried to grab the animal, it bit him several times. One of the bites hit a major artery in the leg, according to Sulim.
The man’s friends were unable to stop the blood from spouting, and he was pronounced dead when he arrived at Sulim’s clinic in the village of Ostromechevo. He is the only person known to have died from a beaver attack in Belarus.
Wildlife experts attribute the upsurge in attacks partly to spring bringing about more aggressive behavior in young beavers that are sent away to stake out their own territory. Largely nocturnal, beavers can also become disoriented during the daytime and attack out of fear, according to Viktor Kozlovsky, a wildlife expert.
Kozlovsky said the large beaver population is beginning to cause significant damage to forests and farms. The Forestry Ministry said it was encouraging the hunting of beavers, once prized for their fur and gland secretions, which were used for medicinal purposes. But since they’re such easy targets near dams, says ministry spokesman Alexander Kozorez, “beaver hunting holds little sporting interest.”
“Hunting them is more like work,” he said.Posted May 30, 2013 6:17 am
@James: I hear you James…Posted May 30, 2013 6:17 am
Gonzo the DRagonborn
Promote beaver awareness people.
Beavers might be typically timid and shy animals and beautiful creatures that prefer to remain away from humans in the security of the water and they are also a Keystone species which means that the environmental changes they cause have far reaching and important benefits for biodiversity and our environment. Beaver dams also provide many direct benefits to humans too. However they can be dangerous and in very rare instances even deadly. You take your own life in your hands, and the lives of your loved ones and pets, especially dogs who beavers have been known to attack and even kill on rare occasions, when you enter the domain of the beaver, which is why I, Gonzo the Dragonborn aka ”the best poster on this sight or this sight will ever see” (not my words), think it’s absolutely imperative to promote beaver awareness.Posted May 30, 2013 6:15 am
Canelo should rematch Matthew Hatton, he was contracted to fight at 150, but was 151.8, he has unfinished bUsiness with Hatton.Posted May 30, 2013 6:06 am
Zuck you are correct this fight is going to be big and I give Floyd a lot of respect I think the guy has change he is a more grown up kind of person. The old Floyd would of snap on Gurreros low life dad. But I really believe that Floyd can beat anybody at 147 and 154 and I’am disappointed that is going to be at 152. But that’s a smart business move but I still would like to see this fight for real 154 title.Posted May 30, 2013 5:50 am
UNCORRECTAMUNDO !!! Skills weigh more than weight !!!!!Posted May 30, 2013 5:50 am
Weights is everything you fools not skills. Mayflower needs to man up and take this fight at 154.Posted May 30, 2013 5:48 am
Zuck you are correct this fight is going to be big and I give Floyd a lot of respect I think the guy has change he is a more grown up kind of person. The old Floyd would of snap on Gurreros low life dad. But I really believe that Floyd can beat anybody at 147 and 154 and I’am disappointed that is going to be at 152. But that’s a smart business move because after Floyd wins at 152 there will another big payday for the real deal 154 title.Posted May 30, 2013 5:47 am
@KOrnerman….Indeed this fight means nothing to you, then stop worrying about it and use your brain elsewhere! Complaining about the weight means nothing….the fight will be on and many many many people will care about it.Posted May 30, 2013 5:25 am
BOOORING BOOORING BOOORING.Posted May 30, 2013 5:21 am
Man up Money and fight at the championship weight, pulling a Pacman doesn’t win any fans.Posted May 30, 2013 4:48 am
Exactly, The fight means nothing to me if not at the right weight, Floyd beatys weight drained Canelo, that 2 pounds dont sound like much but when its 2 pounds of pure muscle its actually a LOT! weakened Canelo vs tip top Floyd I wonder who wins?Posted May 30, 2013 4:42 am
I don’t see the logic why is unfair for Floyd to fight for title at 154 but for anybody else is ok the rules are the rules why change them for individuals. Either you win like everybody else or that title should mean nothing if rules don’t apply like everybody else.Posted May 30, 2013 4:40 am
BS if he had no fear of Canelo the fight would be at 154.Posted May 30, 2013 4:39 am
Oh well, Floyd haters can velcro their mouths shut now! I think Floyd should’ve pushed for a rehydration limit, or at least pushed for a 150 catchweight, but since he didn’t, it proves that PBF has no fear of Canelo. Floyd will come in at 151 while Canelo will be 172 on fight night and that is a BIG difference. That said, Floyd by KO!Posted May 30, 2013 4:30 am
Floyd Mayweather will cane Canelo.Posted May 30, 2013 4:28 am
The last fight Mayweather with Cotto, Floyd came in at 151 and was able beat Cotto that came in 154. I don’t know why this writer keeps on saying Floyd will come in at 146 when it is bunch B.S. The thing is Floyd will beat Canelo at 154 and those 2 pounds at 152 catch weight sucks for a title fights that is at 154. I hate catch weight no titles should be allowed in catch weight fight because is unfair for most of all fighter that fight at there weight class.Posted May 30, 2013 4:09 am
Mick the Marmalizer
Jose Sulliman claims the WBC is a non profit making organization & then starts stripping unified champion. I believe that Canelo’s WBC/WBA regular & PBF’s WBA super titles should be on the line. After all there both coming in under the 154lb light-middleweight limit.Posted May 30, 2013 4:06 am
canelo is probably the most likely of all possible opponents right now that might be floyd. this will be the first time i pick an opponent of floyds beat him. im definetly going with a canelo win vs floyd. this kid is gonna continue to surprise everyone and he is gonna be ready for floyds running and punching on the run. and immediately the new star is born. the new BIG MONEY. the new oscar. hopefully broner gets up to 154 to face canelo too in the even canelo wins. either way if floyd wins its realistically time to start talking goat. if floyd wins i dont see why he doesnt fight pac, martinez, broner, mathysse, even ggg. if floyd can beat canelo i mean theres no reason for floyd to hold back on anyone or anything. no matter what i will be super impressed with whoever the winnner ends up being. but im picking canelo to win this. IM CALLING IT NOW YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST!!!!!! BEARS BABY!!!!! CANELO!!!!!Posted May 30, 2013 4:04 am
i am not a hater at all and i cant blame mayweather for fighting canelo – just what i there is nothing in what i saw in canelo-trout fight which can make me think that canelo can win .
Mick the Marmalizer
This fight is under the light-middleweight limit of 154Lb, so will PBF’s WBA super title be on the line?Posted May 30, 2013 3:24 am
From what I read it is a unification fight but who cares. Canelo is the Ring champion and that is the only belt that matters. Not to mention the WBC said Canelo has to give up one of the belts so by Sept I am sure Canelo will give up the WBC. Or they will see who he is fighting and let him keep the belt to get the sanctioning fees off both fightersPosted May 30, 2013 3:10 am
I wonder are they unifying the titles? Does anybody know?Posted May 30, 2013 3:06 am
Now haters u have have 3 and a half months to prepare your excuses and build another fighter that Money is ducking and will never fightPosted May 30, 2013 2:56 am
Floyd, its time to expose this hype jobPosted May 30, 2013 2:52 am
What is this no hydration limit foolishness?
Never heard this crap discussed in the history of catchweights
The purpose of catchweights is 1, to weaken the bigger fighter, starve him, force him yo suffrr
While 2, the smaller fighter can gain weight, work on strength, feel stronger and bigger than ever.
Rehydrating does not undo the struggle to fight below your normal weight.
Fighters struggle at their usual weight limit. This crap makes it far worse
Freddie Roach mocked fighters for killing themselves cutting weight to fight Manny.
He wasnt concerned with rehydrating…Posted May 30, 2013 2:51 am
WHERE DOES FLOYD GO after CANELO????
There are only 2 real fights bigger than the Canelo one:
I can only see Mayweather’s purses dropping for bout vs the likes of an Alexander, Desert Storm or God forbid, Amir Khan!!!!!
Props if this bout goes ahead, but I’m not sure where Floyd goes after this bout???Posted May 30, 2013 2:49 am
Canelo needs to hire panama lewis for this fight . He gets tired fast and panama knows how to mix water with water for that quick pick me up in the later rounds.Posted May 30, 2013 2:45 am
Wow just read Floyd’s purse is supposed to be a bit over 40milPosted May 30, 2013 2:44 am
i hope nothing happens to floyd and Canelo between now and Sept. 14.Posted May 30, 2013 2:41 am
nuttin beats reading haters comments last week they were saying Floyd is scared of this unfit lightheavyPosted May 30, 2013 2:40 am
After floyd wins what will u haters say then! And bob arum will use pac up then feed him to may. Then pac will be destroyed. Thats y arum held up tje fight years ago by not letting pac fight for 40 million. U pactards! Yall cats dont know nothing bout boxing!Posted May 30, 2013 2:28 am
Nope I never thought Pac was on drugs. Bit the fact still remains that he declined to take them and now that he is out of the Mayweatjer sweepstakes he is adamant about taking the test. That’s just the truthPosted May 30, 2013 2:21 am
Funny how Pac is willing to do Olympic style drug testing now especially when the other fighter is not MayweatherPosted May 30, 2013 2:12 am
C’mon Jack! You can’t be serious! It’s common knowledge that Floyd’s insecuritys are reason for no Manny/Floyd fight, quite amusing how the dude who calls himself ‘money’ ducks the biggest payday of his career…Posted May 30, 2013 2:08 am
PacMan would have lost to mayweather, that is why he did not face him.Posted May 30, 2013 2:03 am
Who would have him fight than Coopal?Posted May 30, 2013 1:55 am
Another mismatch. Not PPV worthy.Posted May 30, 2013 1:53 am