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It’s Me, Ernie

Maybe Canelo can, or maybe it will be too much for him Tard, you are on the outside, so you are just speculating, douche-nozzle…

Posted June 2, 2013 12:27 pm 


Hidalgo

If I were Canelo’s trainer I’d be worried about him burning out over the long haul on that regimen. But hey, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity. If Canelo were to beat Floyd he’d be the talk of the town for all posterity.

Posted June 2, 2013 10:34 am 


Hidalgo

“The catch weight can be overcome…” Thing is Tark, CAN Canelo really do that? Comfortably make the catchweight, rehydrate to no more than 164, then still give the fight of his life? Boy, that’s tough to do, even with great planning and a specific training regimen like you have suggested. That’s why I’m thinking Floyd is playing the odds with the two-pound catchweight. Well, if Canelo does come in at 164 he won’t have any problems going twelve rounds full tilt because he will obviously have trained for it. We got four months to go!

Posted June 2, 2013 10:32 am 


TARK

The catch weight can be overcome… Canelo can train off 3 pounds a month and come in at 164 or lighter… From their he can dehydrate to 152 without debilitating himself — rehydrate to 164 and fight his ass off for 12.

Posted June 2, 2013 2:45 am 


Hidalgo

“I KNOW you are VERY phony” I repeat myself yet again: “Mayweather will win with or without a catchweight. I don’t need to justify Canelo’s weight and size advantage–even though he’s just a tad taller than Floyd–because it won’t matter. Canelo does not have the skills to beat Floyd. Not at this time. So his weight advantage won’t make a difference. That’s why I keep saying that whether it’s a catchweight fight or not, Floyd will win. In any case, Canelo has a better chance of beating Floyd by fighting smart than he does by relying on his size advantage. Floyd likes the catchweight because it is his insurance policy that Canelo won’t be too much for him. If Floyd really had a problem with Canelo’s weight, he’d be wanting rehydration limits. Floyd wants Canelo to come to the fight with a bit of his competitive edge chipped off–a little less speed, a little less power, a little less resiliency. The two-pound catchweight limit has the potential to do that to Canelo. By utilizing the catchweight limit Floyd is looking to put the “final nail in the coffin,” so to speak, before the fight even starts. As ai have repeatedly stated, Floyd will win this fight. He just doesn’t want to pay to high a price in the process.

Posted June 1, 2013 5:01 pm 


Hidalgo

“Canelo has said that it will NOT be an issue” Cotto also said the same thing before and immediately after Pacquiao walloped him. But two years later, Cotto blames his loss on the extra two pounds he had to lose for that catchweight fight. It’s easy to say it’s not an issue when the issue hasn’t occured yet.

Posted June 1, 2013 4:36 pm 


spin the kinks

This fight is a farce.

Posted June 1, 2013 4:17 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

I didn’t realize getting schooled bothered you so much Tard…

Posted June 1, 2013 11:34 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, trying to compare a regular persons regimen to a World Class athlete is ridiculous… Canelo has access to nutritionists, trainers and strength coaches… AGAIN do you acknowledge that 17-20 pounds on fight night is an advantage in MOST circumstances?? The extra power, the extra mass and ability to tire and lean on your opponents… Klitschko has literally sapped the life out of opponents by draping his 250 pound body over them… What would be the odds of this fight if Floyd Mayweather was gonna be 17-20 pounds heavier than Canelo? They would b 50,000000 to 1 for Mayweather so lets get real here… Canelo has PLENTY of things in his favor his SIZE, his YOUTH and the fact that he is facing his second light puncher in a row… Floyds not a BIG puncher at WW he certainly is not at 154 or 172 fight night….Your bias reeks because you are NOT even acknowledging the risks inherent… Martinez vs Chavez Jr is an apt comparison… Sergio was far faster and more skilled yet he could not REALLY hurt Chavez Jr but his mobility and quickness got him thru 10 rounds without getting in trouble and cruising but then in the 11th and 12th because Chavez was still there and throwing HEAVY shots he damn near got Sergio outta there and Martinez ended up damaged… Do I think Canelo is gonna win? HELL NO but that has everything to do with Floyds unreal skills and NOTHING to do with him taking off .05 of a pound extra over a 3 1/2 month span…. All this speculation is nonsense Canelo will make that weight and he is gonna have to live and die with the results./…

Posted June 1, 2013 11:01 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, just ADMIT you are preloading an excuse and speculating like HELL, Canelo has said that it will NOT be an issue and lets NOT forget he has been artificially depressing his weight for awhile NOW… Boxing would be a BETTER sport if we did NOT know all this detail because it would eliminate EXCUSES… We have seen terrific fighters MOVE up which has traditionally been the more difficult endeavor and we have seen them move down… You sign the contract, you know the terms requirements and expectations at that moment no one cares about your training injuries, depressions ect… I KNOW you are VERY phony because NOT for a second have I seen you discuss the reality that Canelo is gonna have a SUBSTANTIAL size differential against Floyd… Something most boxers would LOVE on a regular basis..I think there is a DAMN good reason that Canelo keeps making 154 or 153 1/2 its because he has an EDGE on fight night… He could EASILY fight at 160, but there his power is gonna be somewhat muted and he is gonna be facing guys just as big as him… Does anyone think that Chavez Jr would have gotten as far as he did if he fought at 175 or even 168 where his size advantaged would have become less of a factor? The kids not close to a virtuoso…

Posted June 1, 2013 10:53 am 


Hidalgo

“SO losing 1.5 pounds is not going to effect your SKILL level.” I never said it would. But it’s not just “losing” the weight that is a problem. It’s the potential issues caused by the weight loss that are the problem. There will be potential stamina and strength issues, which can lead to mental issues like inability to focus and concentrate because the fighter is so gassed out. Fatigue. Dehydration. Loss of speed, rhythm, and power. Loss of confidence. A domino effect making a boxer potentially more susceptible to being injured or KOd. Quite likely due to the forced loss of even 1.5 pounds. You’d know this if you ever participated in a sport that required you to lose significant amounts of weight before you competed. Then subtract that extra 1.5-2 lbs. A boxer’s body and mind has “memorized” what it needs to do to make weight. It is conditioned to repeatedly make a certain weight. When the body is pushed past that weight limit, it can have very negative effects. You say you work out and insinuate that you stay in good physical condition. Fine. Before your next workout–in one 24-hour period–drop just 6 pounds. Go ahead and to whatever you want to get that weight back within the next 24 hours. Then do your usual workout. See what happens. BTW, don’t tell me Canelo only has to lose an extra 1.5 lbs and not 6. Canelo has to lose a lot more than 1.5 lbs. before weigh-in. Give it a shot. See how you fare.

Posted June 1, 2013 10:33 am 


TARK

FO Ernie… You’re the dumbest jackass ever born.

Posted June 1, 2013 3:36 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“but Bernard only had to come down two pounds in weight to meet the requirements of the 158 catchweight limit. That Hopkins weighed in at 156 is his fault and the onus is on him. Be that as it may, I along with tons of other boxing fans, as well as some experts and analysts, feel that Hopkins didn’t TKO Oscar, but that Oscar quit. Took a dive. IMO one of the best acting jobs by a boxer that I have ever seen. And don’t forget, DLH and B-Hop became business partners after their fight and presently Hopkins is an executive with GBP. What a coincidence.”

-A WHOLE bunch of rhetoric but the FACT remains that Hopkins lost DOUBLE what Canelo has to LOSE and he remained a BETTER Fighter than De la Hoya. SO losing 1.5 pounds is not going to effect your SKILL level. Floyd lost DOUBLE what Canelo lost TOO vs. Hatton and he still WON. SO IF Canelo was going to WIN he will still WIN even with losing another 1.5 pounds.

Posted June 1, 2013 12:48 am 


Hidalgo

“Hidalgo, do us all a favor and don’t watch the fight you have already decided that if Canelo loses its because of the 1.5 pounds that he had to drop relative to his weigh in for Trout… ” God, SRedmond! You’re an ignoramus and it’s clear that you only read the first one or two lines of my posts before you start commenting on them. I have already said at least 10 times that Mayweather would will beat Canelo with or without a catchweight. So how in the flying F do you figure that I will blame it on the “1.5 pounds” if Canelo loses? Can I be any clearer than to say yet again: MAYWEATHER WILL BEAT CANELO WITH OR WITHOUT A CATHCWEIGHT. GOT IT?

Posted June 1, 2013 12:21 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

It’s Me, Ernie: I almost never bother to read your silly posts because you’re just a TROLL-BOY with very little boxing knowledge who NEVER has anything intelligent or insightful to add to these debates/discussions. That’s why I really don’t know or care which fighters you like, support and follow. Like many of these guys here, I’ve been a regular on ESB for several years and you’re just a nameless nobody who popped-up — like a stubborn WART on our asses — a few months ago. Now get lost and go TROLL some other web site, son.

Posted May 31, 2013 11:44 pm 


spin the kinks

redmond is a piece of garbage.

Posted May 31, 2013 10:37 pm 


tachyon

LOL oh so only way PBF gets respect is to fight a Light Heavy Weight. Canelo weighs in heavier than B-Hop on fight night.

Posted May 31, 2013 10:15 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Squared Circle-Jerk,

Wow you’re sharp as a ball, I have never been a fan of Mayflower, thought you knew…

Posted May 31, 2013 8:49 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo has gotta take a LONGER than usual
Leak, who really cares? This is boring and irrelevant it’s happening.. Canelos got 3 months to back out and then we can do some version of this circus with the next opponent.. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to please fans… So why don’t we scrap this bout??

Posted May 31, 2013 8:41 pm 


Voltron

this is the best fight second to pacquiao vs mayweather. Good choice floyd, but this is a dangerous fight for you. This fight is good for the boxing sport. There is no other fighter right now out there who can make the best out of mayweather except canelo.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:42 pm 


te tumbo

“. . . you should be comfortable assuming [Canelo] loses that he would have won if he was a couple of cups of water heavier….HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Gotta love whiners!” are these the same whiners who went completely apoplectic when Castillo failed to make weight by 2lbs prior to facing Corralles (†)? they were burning Castillo in effigy and demanding bans, fines, suspensions, etc. (lol). at the time, and to hear ESB’s resident “experts” tell it (pft?!), it was unfair for Corralles to literally(?) boil-off chunks of flesh if Castillo didn’t also sacrifice a few digits to make weight himself. Diego contributed to the hysteria with his personal “Passion of Christ” performance in post-bout interviews. of course, at the time, i was once again the wise voice of anti-whining but i sure could’ve used the “couple of cups of water” retort back then. Btw, guess who lost his title on the scales for the very next fight when HE failed to make weight v. Casamayor? hint: it wasn’t Castillo.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:30 pm 


Angelina

b red. Wlad is the superheavyweight champion. The God of the Arena ! And a very classy man ! His image is worth much more than little princess Floyd’s , sorry.

Posted May 31, 2013 7:15 pm 


B Red

Mayweather is a more talented fighter than Wlad. What is wrong with you? Are you a troll or maybe your a boxing novice. I hope its the latter

Posted May 31, 2013 7:07 pm 


tszyu

Boxing God ( oh god whata name ) are you serious ? Wlad less talented than May ?! What is wrong with you man ?

Posted May 31, 2013 6:57 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

It’s Me, Ernie: Please remove Lil’ FLoyd’s nutz from your mouth so we can hear what you’re trying to say. All I hear is mumbling and loud, slurping sounds… LOL!

Posted May 31, 2013 6:52 pm 


TARK

Watching the glacial paced Hopkins-De La Hoya fight. During the fourth round somebody remarked.. “Hagler vs Duran was a Pier Six Brawl compared to this light sparring day at the gym.”

Posted May 31, 2013 6:28 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Lying Queen,

If you mean laying on a fat slob or a cruiserweight until they tire and then push them over, then you must be correct…

Posted May 31, 2013 6:19 pm 


TARK

Hopkins was always super lean as a middleweight… He weighed in for Trinidad at 157 without even trying… No trouble making weight at all and fought at 160 for 16 professional years, much longer than most careers… Making 156 for De La Hoya was like falling off a log for B-Hop … The Hopkins-De La Hoya fight was a pillow fight for 7 rounds — fought at the slowest pace of any middleweight championship fight in Fistic History to that point.

Canelo isn’t fighting somebody who will wait… and wait… and wait… and wait all night… and then run for a round … and then bite the pillow from a semi-hard shot to the short ribs.. Who has the tougher opponent? Hopkins or Canelo??? Canelo will need one HELL of a lot more energy than B-Hop required to dispatch Oscar the pillow biter.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:18 pm 


KO

There is boxing and then there is heavyweight boxing.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Hopkins was 17 years older than Canelo when he gave up that poundage and still kicked ass.. Canelos body can handle 1.5 pounds without issue since he chooses to make 154….
He can always go to 160 and fight there??? He’s getting
Pounded because Mayweathers an ATG…Hidalgo you’re HUGE Pacquiao supporter, I don’t recall you admonishing Pac Man for doing this 3x with older fighters and seeking to bring Cotto down from 154 again?? I gave PAC a break but you’re suspect going after Floyd when his reasons are VERY legit ie 20 pound advantage for Canelo…

Posted May 31, 2013 5:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, do us all a favor and don’t watch the fight you have already decided that if Canelo loses its because of the 1.5 pounds that he had to drop relative to his weigh in for Trout… That’s said you should be comfortable assuming he loses that he would have won of he was a couple of cups of water heavier….HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Gotta love whiners!

Posted May 31, 2013 5:20 pm 


Hidalgo

Beyond that Correctamundo, we all know that Bernard Hopkins is a very special boxer. He is one ATG about whom it would be fair to say that it would take a lot more than four pounds to greatly affect his game. But hey, Oscar gave it up to him so the four pound sacrifice is irrelevant after all.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:18 pm 


Hidalgo

Let me correct myself Correctamundo, you are correct in stating that “Hopkins lost double what Canelo had to lose…” but Bernard only had to come down two pounds in weight to meet the requirements of the 158 catchweight limit. That Hopkins weighed in at 156 is his fault and the onus is on him. Be that as it may, I along with tons of other boxing fans, as well as some experts and analysts, feel that Hopkins didn’t TKO Oscar, but that Oscar quit. Took a dive. IMO one of the best acting jobs by a boxer that I have ever seen. And don’t forget, DLH and B-Hop became business partners after their fight and presently Hopkins is an executive with GBP. What a coincidence.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:16 pm 


Hidalgo

“Hopkins LOST DOUBLE what Canelo has to LOSE and he still stopped Oscar.” WRONG! When Hopkins fought de la Hoya, Hopkins was the lineal middleweight champion meaning he had to weigh in at a weight not exceeding 160 lbs. His fight with Oscar was a catchweight fight with a limit of 158 pounds. So Hopkins only had to lose two pounds–not four as you claim.

As for your claims of what Floyd “had” to lose for his fight with Hatton, those are also bunk and full of air. For the Hatton fight Floyd officially weighed in at exactly 147 lbs.–pretty close to what he weighs for all his welterweight fights–not making any special weight sacrifices–and that fight was six years ago when it was even easier for Floyd to make 147. Canelo will be having to weigh in at around two pounds less than he normally does. The significance of this catchweight limit is NOT what Canelo will rehydrate to, it’s how having to lose the two extra pounds will affect him physically over the course of the fight.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:12 pm 


Hidalgo

“Canelo has been gifted with a tiny adjustment in relation to the bulk he will enjoy fight night” A “tiny” but significant adjustment, otherwise Floyd would have accepted the fight at 154 lbs. It does not matter whether Canelo “asked” for 152 or whether Floyd allowed it or “demanded” the 152 lb. catchweight. If it wasn’t significant, Floyd wouldn’t have worried about it. Now it’s cast in stone in a written, signed contract. That is significant.

Posted May 31, 2013 4:45 pm 


huh?

Critics? What critics? Critics implies that there is some form of rationality or possibility of a change in opinion ..or some sort of qualification and knowledge to understand exactly what you’re critiquing with the history of the object or person critiqued in comparison with the history of others in that field (at least in my mind), Floyd has FAR more irrational envious little naggers than “critics.” Critics? He has very very few.

Posted May 31, 2013 3:58 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

If you say Klitchscho Kings are “boring” with their super-high KO ratios and dozens upon dozens of highlight reel stoppages, then Mayflower is the MOST BORING fighter to ever lace-up gloves. Lil’ Floyd almost never stops anyone. Snooze fest… ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! That’s what you call a REALITY CHECK!

Posted May 31, 2013 3:36 pm 


te tumbo

“what are Canelos ppv numbers?” B RED, by September 15, the 22-year-old Canelo’s PPV numbers will be at least 1.5 million more than the 22-year old Mayweathers and at least 750,000 more than the 36-year-old Floyd’s numbers for his title-fight v. the established Guerrero on a hot-streak. Canelo (NOT Floyd) will do this without the benefit of Olympic fame, the notorious Mayweather pedigree, or “english-speaking ability”. perhaps all the advantages that helped establish Mayweather as a prominent fighter is the primary reason that many underestimate or diminish his success(?). anyway, fight-fans have a tendency to root for the underdog and compared to Mayweather, Canelo is the underdog who is fiercely eager to drive his gloves into Mayweather.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:54 pm 


Etiquette

Sredmond, there is no need to be obtuse.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:40 pm 


murderman

Plus vlad got koed by 3 nobodies!

Posted May 31, 2013 2:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo has been gifted with a tiny adjustment in relation to the bulk he will enjoy fight night… His problem is FMJ is gonna treat him like the new guy in jail and you know that story ends with stitches and pillow feathers in your esophagus.. No shame in getting dusted by one of the Greatest fighters in history..

Posted May 31, 2013 2:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, I have been a MASSIVE defender of Pacquiao for years and never saw him beating Cotto at 145 as a big deal ESPECIALLY because Cotto had weighed 146 when he weighed in the prior fight against Joshua Clottey… So you’re 1000% wrong on that, Pacquiao rubbed some folks wrong because he made catch weights a practice… That said Canelo has decided he likes to being himself down to 154 then blowup to 170 plus in order to have a consistent size advantage over opponents like Jose Miguel Cotto, Alfonso Gomez, Matthew Hatton, and Josesito Lopez… He’s facing a recent career WW who fought at 151 fight night at his biggest.. Canelo is NOT a stranger to catch weights he was supposed to fight at one against Hatton but he blew it… Given the fact he weighed in UNDER the 154 pound limit against Trout and won against the bigger man weighing 172 I have 00000 sympathy for a 22 year old facing an Old man of 36 years he will have a min of 17-20 pounds on… BOOM now try and find your skull after that… LMAO!

Posted May 31, 2013 2:07 pm 


Weight

Oh, sorry, misunderstood that, the penny has dropped now.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:07 pm 


Weight

Canelo gains 20 pounds, but Mayweather gains 30 million pounds, is that fair.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:05 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond > dint you say the other night that Canelo bearly makes 154 because he is so big ?? Can you explain to me this catch weight thing since is happening only 2 pounds below?

I am interested what do you have to say about this catch thing because all this years you were barking how PAC beat dehydrated cotto wich was only 2 pounds below ww at 145 ?
Btw I hated PAC for doing this catch weight thing as I can’t stand this bs catch weight now because believe me this issue will prevent the fight from happening …
Another episode ala random testing!

Posted May 31, 2013 1:52 pm 


tszyu

Can you watch Floyd’s fights in over 100 countrys like W.K.’s ?! Guess not. No more words needed.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:42 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Roy LOST 25 pounds and still beat Tarver. SO Roy vs Tarver, Hopkins vs Oscar, and Floyd vs Hatton all SAY that I am CORRECT.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:37 pm 


murderman

Please tell me how 2lbs can weight drain a guy who will still weigh 170 on fight night! Just admit floyds the greatest n keep it moving haters!

Posted May 31, 2013 1:35 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“you wouldn’t know a damn thing about how losing weight affects your performance.”-I know that IF I have 4 and a half months to make weight I can LOSE an extra 1.5 pounds no problem and I will perform WELL.. . IF he can’t make 152 and still perform with 4 1\2 months prep time then he shouldn’t have taken the Fight. Hopkins LOST DOUBLE what Canelo has to LOSE and he still stopped Oscar. Floyd LOST almost 3 TIMES as MUCH as Canelo has to LOSE but he still SPANKED Hatton. SO PETTY excuse are FUTILE. SKILLS is more important than LOSING weight.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:34 pm 


Rich

Yero Moody…….”I nearly jumped out of my chair with excitement”……Yero, get a life…..and change your ponce name…..

Posted May 31, 2013 1:29 pm 


Floyd Lieweather

Liaweather FAN-atics stupid much. Wlad K 6’6, 245lbs dummies. Physical specmen, superb athletic and genetics, highly skilled. You think 66, 245lbs Lieweather can do what he do it like at 154lbs & below? He can’t even do what he do at 130lbs at 147lbs dumb dumb: rofl

Posted May 31, 2013 1:27 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“You brag about lifting weights and being “huge””-NO I don’t. I state the FACT that I lift weights and OTHER people tell me that I’m HUGE. …. I don’t call MYSELF that… To ME I’m just regular old ME.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:23 pm 


Limey jay

I really can’t see Canelo having any luck at all in this fight….floyd is way out on his own in terms of skills, ring knowledge, and just about any other attribute….it’s just a shame he isn,t that likeable of a fella, but even if he was people would still hate on him…..it’s just the way it go,s.
It’s the same in all sports, in the uk people hate on Manchester United, because they are the best football team, and have been operating at the very top for twenty or so years, they buy up all the promising young talent, and people use any stick tey can to beat them with.
I don’t know anything about American football, baseball, but I,m sure there is an equivalent.
Floyds the man in boxing, as is/was pacman….for different reasons, but both put bums on seats.
I personally prefer to watch PAC fight than floyd, as do the majority i guess,but I still think that floyd would have won if hey did meet.
Like him or loathe him you would have to be one bitter mutha not to give him his props , and there are plenty out there who can’t seperate from their emotions, they get blinded by their own hate……and plough on regardless with their vitriol.
For me floyd is an all time great, he would be able to mix with any fighter in and around his weight in any era….to others he is a cherry picking ducker…..which just sounds silly to me , I can’t take people seriously who fail to see what a special fighter he is.
I just wish I coud like him a bit more, cos sometimes he comes across as a bit of a plum.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:21 pm 


T-Money

Mr. Moody, Floyd isn’t anymore of a hypocrite than Pac-man who is demanding that his next opponent, Brandon Rios, submit to the Olympic style blood and urine testing that he himself wouldn’t submit to when Floyd asked him too when they were trying to make a fight between the two of them. Go figure! Floyd will easily outbox Canelo Alvarez in this fight and take it by a unanimous decision.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:18 pm 


SREDMOND

BRed the haters are gonna want someone bigger… As risky as this comment is Floyd’s currently invincible at his current weight class of 147… Garcia and Matthysee in the same night would be a mismatch but they certainly would put
Some KOs on FMJs record with their wild styles… If Garcia opens up wrong against Matthysee he’s getting drilled I’m a believer now that kid needs to be BOXED which is not Garcias forte

Posted May 31, 2013 1:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Tsyzu, if Floyd’s so BORING them why can’t Wlad command the number of paying customers and MASSIVE income… Basically you are saying Wlad has a FRACTION of Wlads drawing power and earning captivity because he is SOOOO exciting??? That’s patently illogical!! I understand your having a personal preference but your mindset does not translate when the relevant metrics are examined.. Wlad despite being a consummate professional and winner since he was cured of acute “TKO syndrome” has been effectively kicked out of Boxings BIGGEST STAGE the US… Sad but true and his rancid no name opponents are not sellable Wach, Mormeck, Thompson after a prior easy KO loss, and Pianeta a sparring partner who is NOT EVEN World Class..

Posted May 31, 2013 1:09 pm 


BOXING GOD

Tsyzu – Mayweather maybe boring to fans who like KO’s for excitement but for me and many other fans seeing a display of masterful boxing is just as exciting i.e. Pernell Whitaker vs, Chavez, Mayweather v. Castillo, B-Hop v. Trinidad, etc. My main point is that the Klit bros. are skillless bums!!! That is EXACTLY why they got pummeled by no namers several times.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:08 pm 


BOXING GOD

Tomato Can – Must I bust u up AGAIN? Aren’t you tired of attempting to match wits with me, lol? The fight is for ALL the belts look it up and come back to me on your knees. KNEEL BEFORE CZAR!!!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 1:04 pm 


B Red

If Floyd defeats Canelo, His next fight should be the winner of Garcia Mattyse

Posted May 31, 2013 1:01 pm 


tszyu

Oh please, WHAT is a boxer without a stunning knockout record ?? Floyd’s style is even more boring than Wlad’s , at least he knocks the guys out ! There are good heayweights out there, not so many, ok. But the thing is, they aren’t as good as the K2.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:59 pm 


BOXING GOD

KOrnerman- Got ur excuse already lined up, huh? The extra 2lbs. really cost Canelo the fight, boo hoo hoo….forget the fact that Canelo came int the ring weighing in at over 170lbs right? Canelo is a middle weight of course Mayweather is not stupid enough to fight him at 154lbs. just like Pacamn wasn’t stupid enough to fight Margarito at his weight. Stop hating and just admit you already know that no matter what weight they fight at FLOYD IS JUST BETTER PLAIN & SIMPLE!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 12:54 pm 


BOXING GOD

Tsyzu – Can you please stop degrading the sweet science by suggesting that Wlad is as talented as Mayweather! Are you serious? Those robots, the Klit bros are a complete joke the ONLY reason they are even champs is because the heavyweight division is full of tomato cans and they just happen to be the best tomato cans, they’ve been knocked out by bums who NO ONE can even recall their names and you have the audacity to compare Wlad to Mayweather? lmao

Posted May 31, 2013 12:44 pm 


Angelina

WOW why so negative about Vlad here ?! He is the King of the Ring, the God of the Arena ! THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP ! WTF is welterweight .

Posted May 31, 2013 12:42 pm 


tszyu

Well then the same counts for K2 haters . Amen.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:35 pm 


BOXING GOD

Hildago – Please shut your pie hole already! You were on here talking about how Floyd would never face Alvarez now that he is you’re harping on the weight issue. If it was such a huge deal Alvarez would have NEVER agreed to the terms in the first place AND we all know he is going to come into the fight at around 170lbs. like he alaways does! So again shut your pie hole!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 12:34 pm 


MMendoza

B RED: 1.3 Million sounds great, but wouldn’t be surprised if it went up to 1.5.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:31 pm 


MMendoza

SREDMOND: AMEN, AMEN. The haters will also be in an endless state of asphyxiation and excruciating brain freeze pain. Cheers!!

Posted May 31, 2013 12:29 pm 


B Red

If Canelo nevet sold ppv, the casual fan doesnt really know who he is. The fight ptobably will fo about 1.3 million buys

Posted May 31, 2013 12:22 pm 


SREDMOND

MMendoza, good to see you around I think Alvarez is gianna bring it he has nothing to lose, but he’s gonna get terribly outclassed as you asserted below leaving FMJ haters only 4 more bouts to see someone take him out… It’s getting scary for those sorts they might have to slurp his undefeated bone for all of eternity!

Posted May 31, 2013 12:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo has 0000000 PPV track record beyond being an opening act in a Mayweather event… Marquez, Ortiz, Guerrero and Margarito have NEVER been successful A side PPV players independent of being B side to Floyd, Manny or Cotto…. But then again we know that over the past couple of years Floyd did MORE BUSINESS with Cotto and Mosley on the Mexican holiday so the fans are turning out for Floyd…

Posted May 31, 2013 12:10 pm 


MMendoza

SREDMOND: Unless Canelo lands a punch in the likes of Marquez because Mayweather gets careless and totally blindsided (a la Pacquiao), the most Canelo MAY win will be two rounds with maybe a third being super close. Looking forward to an exciting fight anyway, for I think that Canelo’s youth and hunger for victory combined with Mayweather’s methodical and precision battleground campaign par excellence will be far from boring as some would be inclined to think.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Nonsensical assertion Te Tumbo I know you believe that Marquez, Margo, Ortiz and Guerrero are big draws but a SMART man follows the money.. At its core boxing is a business and Mayweather being its highest paid practitioner by a countryside underscores is DRAWING POWER… Do you see why his contracted employees like Guerrero, Marquez, Mosley and Ortiz are paid peanuts?? There are stars in boxing, then there are SUPERSTARS as of now ONLY 2 active fighters have proven they can consistently draw 1 million viewers or close to that number FMJ and Pacquiao… I know you think Marquez and Canelo are Superstars but you are WRONG notwithstanding talent which JMM has an abundance of and Canelos trying to showcase…

Posted May 31, 2013 12:06 pm 


B Red

te tumbo, what are Canelos ppv numbers?

Posted May 31, 2013 12:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyds NEVER gonna “learn KO’s” he’s appreciated as a virtuoso in the ring.. Of people wanted KOs from him they would NOT pay 85 mill in a year to see a guy who at WW usually dominates via UD… As far as his fathers style how’s that relevant?? His father could not execute that style in the near flawless manner Mayweather Jr does or he would have been an ATG instead of doing years in prison…

Posted May 31, 2013 12:00 pm 


te tumbo

REDMOND, you undermine your own argument the second you speculate about Floyd’s appeal based on $20 tix. the True Draws of Boxing sell-out boxing venues and break PPV numbers regardless of the price. THAT’s the definition of a PPV Draw, e.g., DLH. otherwise, Judah, Baldomir, Gatti didn’t break the 500,000 mark and Floyd’s matchup v. Guerrero didn’t sell-out their boxing venue or break the 1 mill PPV-buy mark. that won’t be a problem v. Canelo on September 14. Mayweather is the constant in this equation. care to speculate what the game-changing difference is?

Posted May 31, 2013 11:44 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Sred- please STFU for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 11:32 am 


tszyu

Sredmond, I din’t say, that Mayweather senior was a great boxer, I just meant, he has connections. And Floyd imitates Wlad’s style, only the knockouts, he hasn’t lern yet.

Posted May 31, 2013 11:27 am 


SREDMOND

How much revenue? How much per but and how much did they make?? Sell a Floyd fight for $20 bucks US and let’s see what the PPV numbers are? Wlads the HW Champ and that’s his BEST night? He’s about to get his highest purse according to reports… And the reason that bout was so big in the UK was David Haye, that’s backed up by the I believe 50/50 split for a guy who had 1/10 of Wlads accomplishments at HW… Floyd paid Guerrero 3 mill and banked 32 mill because there is no debating who sells his fights…

Posted May 31, 2013 11:16 am 


SREDMOND

Junior, I got the first part about you giving him his due as a fighter (kudos) but the played out notion that a boxer with 4 million Twitter followers and tons of paying customers is not largely supported by true fans is unsustainable.. That’s like saying people spend good money to go to concerts with the hopes of seeing a singer they hate get caught lip synching or blow a vocal cord..

Posted May 31, 2013 11:12 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweathers father was a NOBODY his claim to fame was getting stopped by Sugar Ray Leonard.. You REALLY don’t know anything about the sport LOL His Uncle Roger was considered a BETTER fighter than Floyd SR… The HW division has produced a ton of forgettable, LOW BUDGET fights and YES $$$$$ is an indicator of demand you were proudly touting suspect figures like 12million viewers of Klits vs Floyd’s now typical 1.2million PAYING customers…Assuming you are NOT totally full of it why is Mayweather earning WAYYYYY more than Wlad or any other Athlete on planet earth ??? This is NOT a trick question why would Klitschko who has a PHD let a WW fighter who YOU claim is less popular be able to buy and sell him 6 or 7 times over in a given year… I encourage your response buys its gonna be inadequate and based in nothing factual… Have at it!

Posted May 31, 2013 11:08 am 


tszyu

@ Sredmond – like another guy just said, the hype about Floyd is only because of his daddy !!! If he’s name were not Mayweather, he were a nobody. Isn’t that sad ? And money don’t say anything about an athlete. Nobody besides Americans is interested in Mayweather fights. America has not one single good hw fighter, so they MUST turn to welterweight. LOL . And it’s not Klitschko’s fault, that there is not one worthy opponent out there. Even Lennox Lewis lost by knockout, so what ?! Floyd will never come even near to Wlad’s record ! But his style is like Wlad’s style, even more boring and without knockouts in the end ! Not to mention his behavior outside the ring ! Like a little Prima Donna ! Sorry but that’s not a great athlete at all .

Posted May 31, 2013 10:59 am 


te tumbo

those who insist that Canelo is ready to face Floyd must have no problem with the sustained quality of competition he’s faced building-up to this fight(?). Btw, Mayweather’s undefeated record indicates that not a single opponent has ever been ready to face Floyd. not the undefeated Corralles, the undefeated Chicanito, the undefeated Hatton, the ATG Marquez, the crafty and seasoned Guerrero. only a “W” v. Floyd can prove which Mayweather opponent was truly ready. it’s a premature matchup for Canelo. Mayweather is at a sustained peak while Canelo is still peaking and yet to reach a premium plateau. he now has Floyd to contend with to get there. experience-wise, Canelo can’t possibly be “ready” but he figures to have enough natural advantages to make this matchup interesting and most challenging for Mayweather.

Posted May 31, 2013 10:54 am 


SREDMOND

Really Junior how do you substantiate the statement that people paid Floyd Mayweather 85 million in ONE year to see him lose? How do you arrive at that conclusion and if that’s the case then he has turned enemies into his foot servants which is a MEAN feat.. I’m sure 99.5 % of boxers would take that amount of income over 2 fights by any means necessary…

Posted May 31, 2013 10:52 am 


Hidalgo

“YOU lost due to lack of SKILLS and tried to convince yourself that it was because of the weight. ” You brag about lifting weights and being “huge” but you’ve never had to make weight for a sport, have you? Never wrestled–not competitively, anyhow, nor boxed. Right? I know I am. So you wouldn’t know a damn thing about how losing weight affects your performance.

Posted May 31, 2013 10:45 am 


SREDMOND

Sthomas, you make some reasoned points but there is a GLARING hole in your analysis… You fail to mention that in Feb Floyd will be 37 years old…If this went on another 2 years he would be 38 and Canelo only 24… Alvarez is getting a crack at Mayweather at a point where the Great Roy Jones slowed enough to get knocked out, at 35, Pacquaio was knocked out at 33 or 34 last year, Leonard was abused by Norris at 34…Oscar was forced to QUIT on his stool at 35 or so… Canelos facing one MIGHTY enemy, Floyd’s facing 2, Canelo Alvarez AND Floyd’s birthday.. If a 25 year old Canelo beat a 39 year old Mayweather its
Not as impressive in theory…. This kids got his extra body mass and 14 years of YOUTH on his side… Let’s see if he can finish the fight..

Posted May 31, 2013 10:32 am 


SREDMOND

Tsyzu, Wlads popularity and global respect are a FRACTION of Floyd Mayweathers… Wlad has dominated this era but his record has become increasingly padded as he continues to box guys ONLY HE knows Pianeta, Wach… Wlad was knocked out 3x as a prime fighter and invited to retire by his brother by the time he had 45 fights, Floyd has 44 in 5 weight classes and never lost… Not a SINGLE guy who blasted Klitschko was “special” one was a BUM the other a C level domestic fighter(Sanders)….. Floyd’s fought 35 guys BETTER than Ross Purrity and most Sanders and never been splatted on the canvas or needed to try and sell childish rumors about “Don King” poisoning him LMAO!! Wlads a beast of a HW who usually enjoys BIG physical advantages in the ring.. When’s the last time Mayweather was 6 inches taller and 35 pounds heavier than anyone?? As far as popularity if Wlads so popular why can Floyd make MORE in one bout than Klits can in 2 or 3 years?? And don’t pretend that Povetkin bid is more than an aberration?? Floyd would not fight Justin Bieber for a 17 mill at this point in his career… His worst days are gonna be 32 mill and up unless he loses… So focus on praying for a loss and stop dreaming that a DEAD HW era can supplant the P4P King and Planets highest paid athlete…

Posted May 31, 2013 10:21 am 


sthomas

Canelo is as ready as he can be to ever fight Floyd. He is still growing as a technician but more critical to this match, he’s still grwoing physically. Time is not on Canelo’s side as his weight is going to increase over time while Floyd’s will remain close to where it is now. I do not doubt that Canelo will be a better fighter in 1-2 years but Floyd would be far less likely to face him at a higher wieght than the agreed upon 152 weight. It’s now or never

Posted May 31, 2013 10:12 am 


EZ E

ahhhh… Canelo not ready?? Really?? Well then, WHEN will he be?? When Floyd is a couple of years older and a step slower?? Com’on man, let’s make sense. Who’s taking the risk here? Is it the 36 yr old Floyd or… a the young 22 yr old 43 fight experienced strong champion with all the physical advantages in his favor?? Ali (Cassius Clay) was a 22 yr old when he faced the heavily favored feared Liston, Wilfred Benitez was 17yrs old when he defeated a then feared & respected top p4p future HOF champion Cervantes!! Shall I go on?? The examples are endless. How many adavantages does Canelo need before the excuses end?? If Canelo isn’t ready now then it’s safe to say that Canelo NEVER would’ve been remotely ready or able to face the best of Floyd, during his prime years.

Posted May 31, 2013 9:41 am 


tszyu

Happyboy, there are ONLY 1 – 1,5 millions, who watch the Mayweather fights, the HW champion has on EVERY fight 12 -16 millions in Germany, not to mention all over the world .

Posted May 31, 2013 9:07 am 


tszyu

@ Happyboy – Mayweather more talented than Wlad ?! LOL ! What do you dream at night ?

Posted May 31, 2013 8:59 am 


sthomas

I lobbied for Floyd to face Canelo in September at 154 with no rehydration clause. If all is true about 152 lbs. and no rehaydration clause, I’m satisyed as 2 out of 3 of my goals came true. Going back to Pac vs Cotto, I preferred that their fight not be at a catch weight (I favored Pac at either weight) but I did not object when the fight took place at 145. In the ever calculating boxing/business mind of Floyd Mayweather, if the announced terms of this fight are correct, it’s more than a reasonable agreement. 152 is way closer to 154 than 147.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:40 am 


srminimo

Terror Tim- I would say Matthysse vs García in the undercard is a very real possibility because the winner would probably be next in line against Floyd, so it would make perfect sense to showcase them.

Posted May 31, 2013 8:22 am 


malachi

church..cosigned!

Posted May 31, 2013 8:00 am 


Rule Britannia!

floyd “darkie” mayweather vs canelo “ginger” alvarez… lol

Posted May 31, 2013 7:28 am 


Public Enemy

I told you guys all the talk would be about the 2lb idiotic catch weight.. should’ve been at 154lbs no catch weight with a 160lb rehydration weight gain clause so Canelo cannot balloon up to 172+lbs…

Posted May 31, 2013 7:25 am 


Floyd Lieweather

‘Money’ got the skills to pay the bills

“Money’ got skills

But bills is money

And you pay your bills with money

I’m confused

Posted May 31, 2013 6:31 am 


Floyd Lieweather

This is true

But

Still

‘Money’ can’t buy my love

Posted May 31, 2013 6:20 am 


Public Enemy

And it attracts the Hottest looking Babes on the Planet like Moths to a flame…

Posted May 31, 2013 6:17 am 


Public Enemy

But it can buy you some of the best looking ASS and Putang on the Planet…

Posted May 31, 2013 6:17 am 


Floyd Lieweather

‘Money’ is the root of all evil.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:15 am 


Floyd Lieweather

The question is not why did Pacman take the test, it’s why did Lieweather demand Pacman take the test when nobody else did?

Can you dig?

Dig where I am coming from?

Dig Lieweather out of this hole?

And for your information Arum is not from Finland.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:12 am 


Happyboy

Lieweather – come tell/sing us that lie when you got money. Please shut it now.

Posted May 31, 2013 6:09 am 


Happyboy

Tszyu & Havoc – there’s are valid reason why more boxing fans pay and watch Mayweather more than the Klitschkos. Aside from the obvious difference in talent Mayweather has faced more and much better boxers than both combined. You can also name a few ATG who have cherrypicked 11/12 world champions in a row, I’ll wait. Thaught so!

Posted May 31, 2013 6:08 am 


Floyd Lieweather

I don’t care too much for ‘Money’ cause ‘Money’ can’t buy you love

Posted May 31, 2013 5:58 am 


Havoc

Floyd is not ATG…this dude anger a lot of people and work his way up by cherry picking his opponents. I guess the Guerrero fight did not make a lot in PPV buys. Now he is taking Canelo ( a little risk but still a slow and young less experience fighter) , hope he will not sucker punch this dude when they do the touch gloves at the end of the intro.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:56 am 


tszyu

Mayweather is a mini Wlad in boxing. But his behavior is bad.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:50 am 


ImJustSayin

Money can never satisfy some of the guys. I keep hearing that he dodged Manny, when it was clear that ARUM DIDNT WANT TO MAKE THE FIGHT. Pacman nor Money are afraid of each other. The FIGHT Remember. It was that F’in ARUM.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:45 am 


OCTAVIUS72

Lol; Floyd will not get his just dues until he is long gone from the sport. That’s just the way the ball bounces!!!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 5:44 am 


Happyboy

You can just hear the 8ters plotting, if he can fight Canelo @152lbs, Martinez said he’d fight him @150lbs so why not fight Sergio so we can really call him great. As if Mayweather will ever be good enough in their eyes. If you haven’t dug it the past 17yrs, you ain’t never gonna dig it 8ters give it up. Even if Floyd losses in his last 5 fights his already an ATG & HOFmer.

Posted May 31, 2013 5:23 am 


Happyboy

And damn this fight was made quick, weight, drug tests etc. Wonder what made Pac take so long to decide on the drug test. Oh I remember, Marquez’s right BANG! St. ” me not scared o no needles no more”

Posted May 31, 2013 5:17 am 


Who cares

Should of made him come to 147 like PAC did against de la Hoya but PAC wasn’t 36/37 years old

Posted May 31, 2013 5:03 am 


Happyboy

typo – IBF

Posted May 31, 2013 5:01 am 


Happyboy

hecdog – another Filipino clown. ” He will take on someone that comes to fight in Brandon Rios. The reason Floyd made this fight is obviously to have bigger PPV ratings then the great Manny Pacquiao. ” nah FOOL he’s taking on Rios who just lost to Alvarardo & and robbed Abril. Another face first, no defense, slow plodder taylormade for him to bust up, while Floyd takes on a dangerous much younger undefeated tiger, WBC/WBA Champion who will possibly outweigh him by 20lbs on fight night. About PPV ratings we all know Mayweather is the PPV king so what you talking about, it is Pac who is running off to fight in China with his tail between his legs cause he knows whose BOSS in the US.

Posted May 31, 2013 4:59 am 


KOrnerman

I am concerned for Canelo !! What if in his attempt to make the weight , some of his ginger hair should fall from his head ??? Damn you to hell Floyd !!!

Posted May 31, 2013 4:52 am 


BEARS

did tumbo really post that garbage post down there? damn that garbage is unbecoming of a good poster. you would think you would know the history of the floyd vs pac “negotiations”. if thats a real post you do not know

Posted May 31, 2013 4:39 am 


KOrnerman

Plunger I get hat your saying if it was a level playing field but don’t you think this two pounds of muscle that Alverez will have to strip will weaken him? I do and obviously Maywaether does to. so therefore again no conclusion can be made of Money’s greatness in beating a weakened fighter.hopefully Canelo starts training a lot earlier so that making 152 doesn’t destroy him.

Posted May 31, 2013 4:36 am 


Ginger people must go

Squared Circle…. Ginger people are exempt from any discrimination laws on account that they do not have souls. Ginger people are pox upon humanity and as the bible says “fall upon the ginger abomination with rocks, spears and bow, but thy must not use thine hands, for they are unclean and spreaders of disease”. I’m not into the bible, but when it comes to oppressing the ginger, mutant scum it’s bang tidy!!

Posted May 31, 2013 4:33 am 


Plunger

For the 1st time mayweather has picked (forced by CBS) a real live one in canelo and it’s gonna be a tougher fight than most people think…….do you think mayweather wants to fight canelo instead of Alexander or khan…..of course he don’t lol……the .guererro ppv numbers were very bad for CBS and were a loss………his deal is 250 million for 6 fights and he has to bring home the bacon or it’s a no deal…….at nearly 37 come fight time facing up to a younger bigger stronger fighter who has skills this will be the defining moment in floyds career and a genuine test…….if wins at a breeze……I then will bow down to mayweather and rate him very highly on Goat list….this is a real genuine fight we have here and I cannot wait for it

Posted May 31, 2013 3:40 am 


hookoffthejab

229 in the comments section …. Some well written articles on this very site get barely any comments ……

Posted May 31, 2013 3:37 am 


Havoc

PAC is an exciting fighter, Floyd is a boring fighter. Floyd is riding Pac popularity to hype his fights!!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 2:59 am 


sg

you can’t be a journalist

Posted May 31, 2013 2:48 am 


PEEJ

How come Pac didn’t take the Olympic style drug test? Did he have something to hide? Why is Pac taking the test now? Why didn’t he take the 40 mil Floyd offered? When you price yourself out a fight it means you don’t want to fight. Everything was decided apon in 2010 including the split and Pac couldn’t take the only thing Floyd asked for. Now that he has no chance in fighting Floyd he is willing to take the test. Hmmmmm?

Posted May 31, 2013 2:44 am 


Tyrone Jones

Peej, Margarito is seems very honest but does not know how to legally defend himself. Likewise, Capatillo merely admitted to usung the protective knuckle pads that he uses on his other fighters. Bottom line is that the courts and commissions are corrupt, especially in California. You merely refuse to consider this or any of my comments and questions.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:33 am 


PEEJ

Also why is Margacheatos old trainer not allowed to be in the corner of any fighter? Cause they where caught cheating. Why did Margacheato say he had no clue? Cause he was caught cheating. End result Margacheato

Posted May 31, 2013 2:26 am 


Tyrone Jones

I mean an nnbraced “hard” knuckle pad placed directly on the knuckle

Posted May 31, 2013 2:25 am 


Tyrone Jones

I say mob mentality has won over most senses of justice and reason because hate dont care. Moreover, no one has ever explained how a unbraced knuckle pad placed directly over the knuckle with gauze did not severely injure margarito’s knuckle.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:21 am 


Tyrone Jones

Mongrel, yes the wraps should have been inadmissible in court for the chain of custody debacle but what actually happenned was that the lab results were mysteriously delayed and never made it to the courts nor the defense until after the tril. The trumped up charges were simply by word of mouth by individuals known for their corruption. Plus several pro-margarito witness working for the CSAC were mysteriously fired and banned from court testimoney. Then the courts had the gall to basically find Margarito guilty for refusing to admit guilt.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:14 am 


PEEJ

Cottons face didn’t look nothing like it did the first fight. Yes I know what happened with Pac. He was also much bigger than Pac. Means nothing. He never did what he did to other people before being found out a cheat after being found out a cheat. He is a known cheater and that’s why he was fined and suspended. The Cotto fight was justly stopped because Margacheatos eye was being destroyed.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:12 am 


elmatador

The writer of this article must be part of the money team. This is as bad as the pactards writers of before pac got ktfo the only diffrence is pac is fun to watch.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:08 am 


Tyrone Jones

Peej, wrong again Cotto’s face was getting beat real good in the second fight beofre it was unjustly stopped. Margarito’s body punches also put Pacman in the fetal position for several days. Speaking of Pacman, he made Cotto’s face llok worse than Margarito ever did.

Posted May 31, 2013 2:04 am 


Mongrel

So you are saying Goldenboy got hold of the wraps and did something to them before the Bureau of Forensic Services analysed them – and the break in the chain of custody of the evidence is why it was inadmissable in court?

Posted May 31, 2013 1:58 am 


te tumbo

i am chief among “the rest of us” who on September 14 will enjoy an intriguing matchup between the prototypical young lion and one of the smartest and most talented ring-veterans ever. the catchweight is merely Floyd’s tax for Canelo not agreeing to his preferred asking price but Floyd DID settle on a price. to face a bigger and prime opponent that nobody would even consider matching Pacquiao* against. Btw, i never relented in my belief that Punkuiao* avoided Floyd (and Marquez); tilted the playing field in his favor with his catchweight conditions for bogus titles; and cynically cherrypicked faded and/or shot fighters. Roach has blatantly bragged about his cynical mismatchmaking strategy upon the announcement of several matchups. in recognition of his newfound clarity and lucidity, i hereby declare Yero Moody a graduate of Tumbo Academy. “Congratulations” Mr. Moody.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:57 am 


Tyrone Jones

Correctamundo, Floyd usually keeps his fightnight weight a secret. On the other hand, Andre Ward fights at 175 on fight night while Canelo weighs 172. Not a big difference and any real fan knows that Ward could drop several of those pounds if he had to. Anyway, it will never happen so real fans want Floyd to fight Golovkin whos walk around weight is actually lighter than Canelo’s

Posted May 31, 2013 1:55 am 


PEEJ

You can stick up for the cheater all you want. Fact is he was caught, fined, suspended and has never looked the same. Margacheato

Posted May 31, 2013 1:46 am 


Tyrone Jones

Mongrel, again the lab finding were never used in court yet the Golden Boy and CSAC allegations were trumped up by california courts which are ranked among the top five judicial hell holes in the nation

Posted May 31, 2013 1:44 am 


nemo

finally olympic testing for canelo.we’ll see… Hats of to Mayweather.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:42 am 


Tyrone Jones

peej, Mosley did indeed see and feel margarito’s pads and admitted so in an interview with Brian kenny. The Cali courts suspended Margarito for a year for wearing soft knuckle pads, which are not allowed in boxing. it was the maximum charge they cold give him but hard boxing pads would have landed margarito in jail

Posted May 31, 2013 1:40 am 


PEEJ

Nope. You are wrong. You don’t get suspended for nothing. There is proof and he was caught cheating. And then he never looked the same after. No more menacing power or crazy bruises faces. No more torn ears, no more KOs

Posted May 31, 2013 1:37 am 


Tyrone Jones

Mongrel & Peej, sulphur and calcium are found in all kinds of ointments and fungicides that have been used by boxers, etc.. for thousands of years. Bottom line is that the pads were not hard and if thy were, would have shattered Margarito’s knuckles. for a hard knuckle pad to damage an opponant, it must either be braced against the palm like brass knuckles ot wraped as one continuos hard wrap around the wrist as was the case with restro. Margarito’s pads laid righ atop his knuckle with gauze.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:29 am 


Tyrone Jones

Yeah, Margarito was framed. First, the CSAC didnt say a word to Margarito about his wraps and then gave Golden Boy full and illegal possesion of them. The the courts refused to allow the lab findings come to court yet contributd to a big anti-Margarito smear campaign, which fed into HBO’s Lewis/Restro documentary, the Cotto franchize, and Osacar’s rage concerning the rumors Margarito was spreading about Oscar crying up at Bigbear.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:22 am 


Mongrel

“On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, “Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence [XRF] spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris. These three elements are also found in substances other than plaster. Oxygen is not detectable by XRF.”

See that – that right there is some CSI Margacheato.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:17 am 


Tyrone Jones

Peej, wrong again! Even Nazim Richardson stated that the pads were “wet, used and blood stained” as did several witnesses.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:04 am 


Mongrel

h t t p:// w w w.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

Paste into browser without the spaces. Hauser is an actual boxing journalist not some small time blogger so he actually followed up to find out what happened.

Posted May 31, 2013 1:03 am 


PEEJ

And if they didn’t find anything why was Margacheato suspended for a year? And Mosley didn’t even see it, Nazim did.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:59 am 


PEEJ

Thats why he never looked good after Mosley.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:49 am 


PEEJ

That is because they did not get wet so they did not get hard. As soon as the fight would of started by round 2 they would of been wet and would of hardened. And only semi hardened. lol. Cheat

Posted May 31, 2013 12:47 am 


PEEJ

He had Baldomire ahead because he was the lineal Welterweight Champion.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:46 am 


Tyrone Jones

PeeJ, you are lying again. The court records found “no plaster” and nothing hard. Months later the pad was only semi hard. Mosley himself called the pads soft as did court witnesses. If hard or plaster pads had been found, Margarito would have gone to jail but instead he recieved a mere suspension and only because the CSAC and the Cali courts are judicial hell holes pad off by the likes Cali golden boyz

Posted May 31, 2013 12:46 am 


PEEJ

Once again Canelo called out Floyd. Why call out the smaller fighter? That sounds like a bully to me. And Canelo said he would meet him at 150, Floyd said 152 was fine. And in my opinion the only reason he said that was to show him who was boss like Oscar did to Floyd. Pac was the one that chose Cotto and Margacheato. They never called him out. That is the difference.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:45 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Tyrone-Sorry take a MATH class man. Ward is not within 20 lbs of Mayweather on Fight night.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:44 am 


PEEJ

No those where not soft knuckle pads. They where plaster of paris. Sorry but you are incorrect about that. I know about the soft knuckle pads and those where not it. And yes Mosley did cheat himself and he also didn’t look as good when he didn’t use the cream. But he never put a cast on in his gloves.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:41 am 


Tyrone Jones

Peej, lots of fighters wear those “soft knuckle” pads like Margarito wore and it was Mosley who is “known” to reallt cheat

Posted May 31, 2013 12:39 am 


Burn22

Ok so here is my issue with all of this. There is a lot of talk about catch weights and being the pound for pound best right? So what does pound for pound best mean? Maybe its just me but if I wanted to be known as the p4p best I would seek weights up and down from my natural without stipulations. Also do we forget so quickly Martinez and Chavez? There seemed to be a large fight night weight discrepancy but I find no mention of that. Or if it were it was quickly dismissed. Don’t get me wrong I think Floyd wins this fight very easily. Canelo is much too slow and his power will not be a factor because of Floyd’s elusive style. It will be a typical Floyd fight.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:37 am 


Tyrone Jones

Correctamundo, if only Floyd believed you but instead he only fights fighters who the fans want him to fight after they have all beat the hell out of eachother. Plus, how on earth do you have Baldomir above Mosley, Williams, Cotto, Margarito, etc,,? Btw 2, the likes of Andre Ward is within 20 pounds of Floyd’s weight and he would litterally kill Floyd within 12 rounds.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:35 am 


Havoc

Peej- yeah? Like Floyd criticize Pac for fighting in a catch weight… Now who’s doing it? I say he is a hypocrit.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:32 am 


Ray

Correctomundo – hey its all good bro. I made money betting on Mayweather as well too. But this time I gotta stick to my boy win or lose. Hehe… He has youth on his side. He can come in aggressive ( I hope ) without fear of getting KO. He has faster hands and better combos than Guerrero and most people underestimate that. A good chin. So yea, Mayweather is a P4P king but Canelo wont come in with that religious mentality like Guerrero. Seek and destroy like Cotto and Castillo. Thats the only way. ODLH did a decent job a pressuring Mayweather too. Its gonna be intresting.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:29 am 


PEEJ

Havoc then you have not seen Floyd fight. Name me one fight where he only landed one punch? And not only that but he lands more than his opponents, the same opponents who throw more punches than Floyd. Yes that is called the Sweet Science of Boxing

Posted May 31, 2013 12:28 am 


PEEJ

Actually Pac was the one that asked for a bunch of stuff and Floyd only asked for the Olympic Style drug testing. The same test that Pac is now demanding for his fight with Rios. Why is he doing it now and not then? Things that make you go hmmmmm.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:27 am 


B Red

@Tom

ato Can, you dont have to explain boxing knowledge to the stupid posters that dont want to learn or accept the game. Ya dig

Posted May 31, 2013 12:19 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Ray-Hopefully MORE people go WITH you SO I can make me some more MONEY.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:15 am 


Havoc

Floyd has master the art of boring fights!!! Heck he can win a round with only 1 punch connect….and peej you call that the science of boxing!

Posted May 31, 2013 12:14 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

IF De la Hoya was way past it then the ENTIRE Division was way past it and that’s not Floyd’s fault. All he can DO is face the Top rated opponent available. As he’s doing once again.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:14 am 


Ray

Imma go with my boy Canelo.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:13 am 


PEEJ

Stop saying Margacheato, he is a cheater and never deserved a shot because he is a cheater. That is why he could’nt win a fight after being found out by Mosley. Why was it so easy for the Cotto fight to be made once he left Top Rank??? Because of Arum. Williams jumped weight too much to be able to challenge any of the top dogs. Blame that on him and his team. Hatton called out Floyd, guess what when you call out someone you have to go meet them. Floyd never called out Hatton. Guess what Canelo called out Floyd, Floyd said he is a Welter not a Jr Middle but he met Canelo somewhere in the middle after Canelo said he would meet him at 150. Oh and 150 is the same weight he won his first title which was against someone not even ranked at Jr Middle.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:10 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Tyrone-Boxing is a Sport not a Division. As long as you’re not outweighed by more than 20lbs on Fight night the BETTER man WINS most of the time. Hatton would have LOST to Floyd at ANY weight…..And Baldomir WAS the Top WW in the World when Floyd BEAT him. Some guys including Paul Williams and Margarito took Baldomir PRIOR to the Fight.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:10 am 


PEEJ

He is boring to you. I like the way he fights. I like when true boxing skills is displayed. Anybody can throw a bunch of punches with no defense and constantly get hit. But to show the true science of boxing is incredible. Heck the way Rios fights is science. Nobody thinks he has defense but with the way he perrys punches off his forearms and his inside game is amazing.

Posted May 31, 2013 12:08 am 


Havoc

10 oz. gloves + boxing skills = boring fight!!! Floyd may win all his Cherrypicked fights until he retires, he is still a boring fighter!!!!!!!

Posted May 31, 2013 12:06 am 


Tyrone Jones

Correctamundo, Mayweather never fought the top opponant at Jr. Middle, Welter, or Jr. Welter. Hatton had to move up to Welter and Mayweather ducked all the top welters including prime Cotto, Mosley, Williams, margarito etc. Everyone thought the Badlomir fight was a joke. Likewise, Oscar was way passed it and Winky offered to come back down to 154 but Floyd wouldnt have it. Likewise Floyd only fougth Gatti at Jr. Welter

Posted May 30, 2013 11:56 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

IF Canelo can by MIRACLE beat Floyd he should move UP to 168 and beat Ward. IF he can manage to do THAT then he is the GOAT at 23 yrs old and will Gross $750 Million in his career IF not MORE…..But its always easier SAID than DONE.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:52 pm 


Tomato Can

If Mayweather charged forward and attempted to trade with no regard for defence like a Hatton type fighter his career would be exactly where Hatton’s carrer is. You can call his style boring, but you can’t call it dumb. Hell, at this point you can call Mayweather the smarted fighter in boxing, weather you think he’s boring or not.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:52 pm 


Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio

Everybody is excited about this fight— yeah, that is all there is— the hype, press conference, the showtime 24/7 propaganda— that’s all the exciting part—- but when the actual fight starts— and you see Mayweather potshotting and on his bicycle — you feel duped and tricked, and you asked yourself ” Why did I buy this fight ??” Why did I spend $59.00 to see this boring fight?”

Posted May 30, 2013 11:44 pm 


Ponchito

I usually don’t get responses to my comments but here it goes. This envious hate of Floyd is getting ridiculous. 1. Pacquiao is and never was a threat to mayweather. He was a media creation just like Canelo is except Canelo agreed to terms like a true challenger to the throne. Like Floyd agreed to de la hoya’s terms. Pacquiao 2 gadding legends that came off losses and blew up Barrera and morales. Sound familiar? Ofcourse it does.
2. Stop hating we all know that Aaron Pryor had no chance against sugar ray. And who the hell did Pryor fight to earn that spot? Who Duran, Benitez, hearns? No. So when the pacquiao train started puffing who did he beat Marquez barely who knocked him out recently. Stop it pacquiao is good but he is and was never a match for mayweather Canelo is the only threat outside of making Floyd fight middleweights after he came from 126. Middleweights come in the ring at 180 lbs floyd weighs 147 the night of the fight even UFC has weight division. This is becoming disgusting

Posted May 30, 2013 11:40 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION….that shows that he needs to MAN UP and move UP to 160…

Posted May 30, 2013 11:37 pm 


Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio

Hehehehe…. another boring win for Mayweather— to those who have insomnia– September 14th is a great night!

Posted May 30, 2013 11:29 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Even IF he was CORRECT in saying that he can barely make 154 then that shoes that he needs to MAN UP and go to 160. But I APPLAUD him for wanting to face the BEST….going to 160 is called running AWAY from the BEST.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:23 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“but as a wrestler and boxer from my teens to my early 20′s, I know for a fact what it means to have to boil off an extra two pounds before a match or fight–no matter what the rehydration weight is! “-IF you though an extra pound and a half made you LOSE then you SUCKED. YOU lost due to lack of SKILLS and tried to convince yourself that it was because of the weight. Hopkins lost 3 pounds and still stopped Oscar just as Floyd LOST 4 pounds and still SPANKED Hatton…..SKILLS is more important than LOSING weight.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:20 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“to have to boil off an extra two pounds before a match or fight–no matter what the rehydration weight is! “-He doesn’t have to boil off 2 extra pounds SO go take a MATH class. He weighed IN at 153.5 vs. Trout. SO the claim that he could n’t go below 154 was PURE bluffing all along…..otherwise he wouldn’t have agreed to 152. You DUNCE.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:15 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“I will fight Mayweather at 150 lbs.” ….said Canelo referring to the Mayweather Fight.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:12 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“whata ya mean Mathysse has to KO Garcia, which btw he will? Who did Canelo KO, besides two-weight-classes-littler Josesito lopez?”-Canelo didn’t have to knock anyone out impressively to get the public to clamor for him. But Matthysse DOES. IF he knocks Garcia out impressively then the public will clamor for the Fight. IF he doesn’t. They WON’T. Same goes for Garcia……Floyd will have once again defeated the Highest rated Fighters at Jr. Middle, Welter, and Jr. Welter. WOW!!!! (like he DID when he beat De la Hoya, Baldomir, and Hatton)

Posted May 30, 2013 11:11 pm 


Tomato Can

Agreed, Mayweather doesn’t want to face Canelo at his best, nor does Canelo want to face Mayweather at his best, which isn’t at + 150. So once again we have a stand of that can’t be agreed upon.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:09 pm 


Hidalgo

Floyd doesn’t want to face a Canelo at his best. Ergo the catchweight.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:06 pm 


Hidalgo

“I look at Miguel Cotto as an undefeated fighter, because Miguel Cotto fought one fighter at a catch weight to where he wasn’t full strength,” Mayweather said, referring to the 145-pound weight limit for Cotto’s loss to Pacquiao.

Posted May 30, 2013 11:04 pm 


PEEJ

And it does not matter who your promoter is, your only obligated if you sign a contract. Marquez felt he won all the fights and the KO was just the icing on the cake. Now I thought the first and second fight Pac won and the 3rd Marquez clearly won and well the fourth speaks for itself

Posted May 30, 2013 10:59 pm 


Hidalgo

“The 152 catch weight was pure genius on Floyd’s part… Canelo had been finding it hard to make 154—he’s 22 and still growing. Saul had to dry out a ton to make the weight for Austin Trout. ” Precisely. If the two pounds didn’t mean anything, Floyd wouldn’t have “allowed” it, even if Canelo “asked” for it as Correctamundo claims. Floyd went into negotiations with a number in mind but his main goal was to fight Caneo with a handicap. Naysayers can piss and moan all they want but as a wrestler and boxer from my teens to my early 20’s, I know for a fact what it means to have to boil off an extra two pounds before a match or fight–no matter what the rehydration weight is! Floyd just bought his insurance policy to insure his “0” and to insure a win against Alvarez. Very slick on Floyd’s part. Very dumb on Canelo’s part.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:58 pm 


Tomato Can

Peej, yup I tried to post the same thing but it got stuck in cyber space.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:57 pm 


PEEJ

Marquez is promoted by Top Rank. Only way you get a fight with Pac is if you are promoted by Top Rank

Posted May 30, 2013 10:55 pm 


mayweather86

Excuses excuses excuses. I thought mexicans were supposed to “warriors” ? All I’ve seen on here is a whole lot of boo hoo bs over 2 fn lbs. Waaaaaa. Go eat a tortilla and calm the f*** down

Posted May 30, 2013 10:55 pm 


Hidalgo

“HIDALGO: you have become a nuisance here on esb…” Why? Because you can’t argue effectively against me? Too many people bashing you so now you’re after me? Knock yourself out. I’m not going anywhere.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:50 pm 


Hidalgo

“Canelo asked for 152 and he GOT it” Canelo “asked?” LMAO! Sure he did….

Posted May 30, 2013 10:47 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Yeah when Oscar told mayorga” respeto mi raza”, he meant white Mexican boyze aka golden boys.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:42 pm 


Tomato Can

The Author states the following: “Since the 147lb and the 154lb. titles are on the line it is a smart move for Mayweather to add a catch weight.”… Last time I checked you can’t defend or fight for a title if you’re fighting above the limit of that title. So how is Mayweather’s 147 pound title on the line in this fight?

Posted May 30, 2013 10:36 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Floyd wins all but 3 RDS

Posted May 30, 2013 10:33 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Well….night night time Canelo or more likely 9 rds to Floyd 3 to RED

Posted May 30, 2013 10:32 pm 


The Prince

Canelo will lose as Floyd will beat him to the punch and counter him all night. However, Canelo will have a punchers chance and if he lands a solid combination, he might knock Floyd down for the count. I have no doubt that despite the small catchweight, Canelo will com in well over 170, even if he’s fined. This is because ever since losing to Mayweather, Oscar has been desperately trying to find someone to beat Mayweather before he retires. He’ll take the financial hit if it means being the manager of the guy who handed Floyd his first loss.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:31 pm 


Fighting Words

That’s just my point PEEJ, JMM is not promoted by Top Rank, that’s why JMM was not obligated to get Manny a rematch. Can you name one decent fighter that Mayweather has fought at WW that was not promoted GBP also? there is not one. The writting is on the wall. A house divided against itself can not stand. If Mayweather fight someone that is not promoted by GBP, you will see the same thing happen to him as to what happen Manny

Posted May 30, 2013 10:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Delahoya would love to see Canelo win. Saying otherwize is nonsense. Alvarez is very fortunate to get this fight, I’m sure he’ll make the most of it. Mayweather will get the concessions, just like Delahoya did when he faced him. But at 22, Canelo is a tuff hard hitting kid. Mayweather will have to bring his A game, and a healthy pair of hands wouldn’t hurt either.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:27 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION….when he likes to wear Grants…

Posted May 30, 2013 10:26 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

YES. You have to EARN your stripes in THIS game. Its not given to you. Oscar made Floyd wear Reyes gloves when he like to wear Grants just to play MIND games but it didn’t WORK. SKILLS WINS Fights not gloves.

Posted May 30, 2013 10:25 pm 


PEEJ

That’s crazy Fighting Words. So what happened with Pac and Top Rank? Pac brings in way more money than Marquez did

Posted May 30, 2013 10:15 pm 


B Red

Ofcourse Floyd is the boss, that why Canelo was subservient

Posted May 30, 2013 9:59 pm 


B Red

Fight Aficionado, cool

Posted May 30, 2013 9:55 pm 


boxingfan

I have never been big fan of Floyd but he will take Canelo to school. Canelo is young and has power but he has never seen the likes of Floyd as an opponent and probably never will again. Floyd is smart and will use his ring savy to frustrate the hell out of Canelo. Canelo will lose his cool and open himself up where Floyd will take advantage and either win by a huge margin or score a tko. I like Canelo but he has a temper and I think that by be part of his downfall with FMJ….That and Floyd is a much better boxer. This isn’t a weight lifting contest where the biggest and strongest always wins… it’s a Boxing match.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:54 pm 


Fighting Words

This fight is nothing to write home about. The only way Mayweather will beat, it will be by someone who is with a different promotor. As it is written, “A house divided against itself can not stand” The GBP house will not be divided against itself. Both fighters are promoted by Gold Boy one is an established fighter with a $250 million contract and 36 years old, and the other is a young 21 year old up and comer with plenty of PVP fights left in him. Do the math, who do you think will when the fight. I can see it now as Shaffer of GBP saying to Canelo, “Mayweather will win this fight, you will be number 1 when he retires in a couple years and you will make twice as much money as him because you are young and you are already putting up good PVP numbers, you will get a bigger contract then Mayweather when he retires because you have the latinos audience also, plus you would lose to a ATG” Canlo will say ” You are muy intelligente senior, Mayweather will win this fight, he is muy intelligente and tough fighter, me can always go back and talk to me familia and me manager to figure out me next move” Folk, the only way a Mayweather fight would be worth seeing, if he will fight Manny who is promoted by Top Rank.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:53 pm 


PEEJ

Forbes is saying Showtime lost 12 mil in Floyd’s last fight. Not sure how many PPVs they needed to sell to make money with all the marketing they did. There VP did come out and say they sold a mil plus. I sure would like to hear the numbers. Either way he is still the PPV king

Posted May 30, 2013 9:52 pm 


PEEJ

Since when can Floyd not take a power punch?

Posted May 30, 2013 9:49 pm 


Voltron

canelo will rock mayweather, cause mayweather cant take a power punch anymore like he used to be before. if mayweather can still box this guy for 12 rounds he will win.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:32 pm 


Mongrel

I don`t even like Floyd he is an utter utter knob. I`d like to put him in a cannon and fire him through a field of razor wire into a tank full of sharks trained to rape their food before they eat it.

But you guys trying to shred his record, or gripe about EVERY single opponent are absolute windowlickers.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:30 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Canelo weighed IN at 153.5 vs. Trout SO he’s been bluffing about not being able to go below 154 anyway.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:30 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Hmm now if Caleo comes in overweight will Floyd still fight like Marquez did when Floyd came in overweight?

Posted May 30, 2013 9:29 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION….which is in between the Welter and Jr. Middle limits..

Posted May 30, 2013 9:28 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECT. After they offered a catchweight Floyd SAID OK lets DO it at 150.5 which in between the Welter and Jr. Middle limits. Canelo asked for 152 and Floyd SAID lets DO it. SKILLS WINS. Not SIZE.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:27 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd was never gonna defend his title, he was going to give it up like he did after Oscar, just like Pac did when he won the bogus title

Posted May 30, 2013 9:26 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Actually, Floyd asked for the fight to be at 150.5 lbs.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:25 pm 


PEEJ

So pretty much most of the Pac fans think its ok for him to have catch weight fights, accuse people of being on PEDs and cherrypick his opponents and duck certain fighters are now hating on Floyd. Just wanted to make sure

Posted May 30, 2013 9:24 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECT. Floyd wanted a NO catchweight 147 pound Fight but he compromised and accepted Canelo’s 152 pound offer.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:17 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Tark, the whole Mayweather team publicly stated multiple times that Canelo would have to come down in weight to fight Floyd. Funny that Floyd mysteriously disapeared from Boxrec’s 154 rankings just prior to these statements.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:13 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Yup. Public posturing and behind the scenes negotiations are two different things. Just as publicly Floyd said he wouldn’t go above 147…..but he DID. He budged 5 lbs and Canelo budged 2. SO I SAY Canelo got the BEST end of THAT deal.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:09 pm 


RolandoMota

Canelo sold out , if they both hold junior middleweight titles they should fight by junior middleweight standards, meaning 154 lbs.

Posted May 30, 2013 9:08 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Hypocritamundo, whata ya mean Mathysse has to KO Garcia, which btw he will? Who did Canelo KO, besides two-weight-classes-littler Josesito lopez?

Posted May 30, 2013 9:07 pm 


Fight Aficionado

““Canelo” does NOT mean “ginger”!!” – Yeah it’s disrespectful and snarky using that phrase. Something for commentators, not so-called journalists. But keep in mind this is Yero Moody, who many thought was banned from ever writing for ESB again. Like a poltergeist, he’s back.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:59 pm 


TARK

Boxtra…, So 13 hours before this fight was agreed to Canelo Tweeted that he wouldn’t agree to come in lower than 154.. After weeks of telling the media he couldn’t and wouldn’t go lower than 154.. Then he asks Floyd, “Can I please fight at a catchweight???”

Posted May 30, 2013 8:57 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Diffrent fight, diffrent approach for Canelo..the kid knows he wont outbox Mayweather so I’m sure he’ll be prepared to eat a shot or two for the opportunity to ruff Floyd up on the inside..will Canelo find success it remains to be seen but I’m guessing he will..Alvarez is stronger, younger and faster than anybody Mayweather has fought since DLH..I know Kid Cinnamon will bring his mexican pride into the ring to brace himself to eat Mayweather’s shots like M&M’s just to land his own..we’ll find out soon enough, let’s get it on!. Hopefully we get an Ortiz/Guerrero fight on the undercard.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:56 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Fight Aficianado, dont fall into the catchweight bs,152 is fair.” – As mentioned in other threads I don’t have a problem with the catchweight. They did what they had to do and the fight got signed. It’s a good competitive match the fans want. That’s what counts.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:53 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Yeah the spanish word for the most common known ginger (Zingiber officinale from Asia) is jengibre and has maroon and white flowers. The root is yellow and the leaves are green. Canelo or Cinnimon is reddish though.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:50 pm 


JoeKidd

If Trout can dance circles around Canelo, what would Floyd do? Canelo cannot rough up people like a Duran. Easy fight for Floyd.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:45 pm 


gensandiehard

fmj, deserves credit for taking this fight, but also be judge as hypocrite for saying wrong to pac for doing cathweight.lol…

Posted May 30, 2013 8:38 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Matthysse will be next IF he can knock Garcia OUT in impressive fashion.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:33 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Floyd, how about this catchweight: Mathysse at 142.
Win one like that and the endorsements will come.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:31 pm 


Charlie

“Canelo” does NOT mean “ginger”!!

Posted May 30, 2013 8:23 pm 


B Red

THE PACTARDS ARE IN THE BULDING!!!!!!

Posted May 30, 2013 8:19 pm 


Tyrone Jones

I just hope that Canelo’s pispotty performance against Trout was all a ploy to garner Floyd’s ever present contract criteria–a pre-existing “Blueprint to lose”

Posted May 30, 2013 8:16 pm 


RolandoMota

Another Boring 12 UD for Mayweather.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:06 pm 


Floyd Lieweather

But catchweight wrong, right?

Wrong, catchweight right now.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
Now it’s Ok but before you slander

Stop backtracking Flomos

Busted!!

Posted May 30, 2013 8:04 pm 


Mike J

You gotta admit, even die hard Mayweather fans didnt expect him to take this fight right now…maybe the 3rd or 4th fight into his six-fight deal. Either way, Canelo asked and he received, and for the most part on his terms it seems. I’ve always said that only two things beat Mayweather, himself (fighting too long past his prime) or going so far up in weight against a good fighter, that his skills wont be enough to over match his opponent. Aside from a fight with Martinez or even Ward, this might be as close to the latter as we’re going to get. Canelo is skilled, young, big for his weight class as it is, and can bang. And I dont completely discredit Canelo’s fight against Trout, it wasnt his most dominant performance, but he showed movement that we havent really seen in previous fights. Bottom line is that fighters of Mayweather’s level dont reach back and fight the up and coming young lions…he’s fought Ortiz now Canelo. Many doubted the ageless wonder in Hop against Cloud and we saw what happened in that fight. Mayweather has a similar kind of opportunity in this fight.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:03 pm 


Tyrone Jones

And here I thought Floyd’s sudden run from 154 was to duck the call outs by Golavkin who btw walks around lighter than Canelo. It now appears that Matthysse’s call outs scared Floyd up to this catchweight.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:01 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Floyd demanded the catch weight.”-Nope. Go take a READING class. Canelo asked for the catchweight and Floyd agreed. That’s why there’s NO complaints from EITHER party. And you will find NO report where Floyd SAID that he wouldn’t fight at 154. Canelo asked for 152 and he GOT it….All CRYING and WHINING from the fans will not stop the schooling. Floyd by Pot shotting CLINIC…..and weight is no factor in that. SKILLS is.

Posted May 30, 2013 8:00 pm 


Gwite

“Cinnamon”! Idiot!

Posted May 30, 2013 7:56 pm 


B Red

Fight Aficianado, dont fall into the catchweight bs,152 is fair

Posted May 30, 2013 7:53 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“The difference between Pacquiao and Mayweather is that Pacquiao is the one that brings the catchweights to his Fights. Canelo and Marquez asked Floyd for catchweights…” – Floyd demanded the catch weight. But since you’re a categorical nut hugger you’re of course trying to turn that fact on its head. Tard.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:50 pm 


B Red

Well Tark, your boy Canelo should move up to Mw so he doesnt kill himself at 154. I would love to see him in the ring with Triple G or Kid Chocolate, ya dig

Posted May 30, 2013 7:49 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

The difference between Pacquiao and Mayweather is that Pacquiao is the one that brings the catchweights to his Fights. Canelo and Marquez asked Floyd for catchweights….Floyd said OK. YOU asked FOR it SO lets DO it at 150.5 which is in between Welter and Jr. Middle…. Canelo countered and SAID “right in between Welter and Jr. Middle is NO FAIR. How about 152???”… Floyd SAID “No problem lets DO it”…. SO how DID Floyd now drain the guy??? IF he’s drained he drained HIMSELF…..SO MANY Boxing fans are SISSIES nowadays. They DO more crying than the Fighters THEMSELVES……IF anyone should be crying it should be Canelo OR Floyd. Not the fans…. MAN UP with NO complaints like Canelo and Floyd DID….or maybe that’s why you’re a fan and not a Boxer. Because you’re too SISSIFIED.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:46 pm 


Supreme Court

HIDALGO: you have become a nuisance here on esb…
Its time to send the drones after you…

Posted May 30, 2013 7:45 pm 


Voltron

This fight will break the highest PPV buys.. I guarantee that!

Posted May 30, 2013 7:36 pm 


TARK

The 152 catch weight was pure genius on Floyd’s part… Canelo had been finding it hard to make 154—he’s 22 and still growing. Saul had to dry out a ton to make the weight for Austin Trout. All the Floydiots chortled about how lethargic and gassed he looked—gasping for air, turning beet red, feinting and falling off his stool between rounds. Could that have anything to do with making 154? As soon as Canelo replenished with 2 gallons of beef broth, vegetable juices, Gatorade, and fruit juice he weighed 172—but still but still looked like he’d been blown one too many times by Vampirella. Paul Williams dried out only 17 pounds for his 1st Quintana fight. Paul fought like a dead man and lost to a 2nd rate fighter—who he blitzed in a minute when he dried out from a more reasonable weight. So the key to this fight may the number 152. Canelo may have to shave off all that red hair to make the last 3 ounces.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:36 pm 


Voltron

now mayweather wants catchweight. He used to criticize pacquiao for fighting catchweights before and now he wants catchweight. But i think this will be the most difficult fight for mayweather, he might get knock out cold here, like pacquiao got knockout by JMM. I think canelo have 60% chance to knock out mayweather in this fight. Wrong pick by mayweather.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:32 pm 


Supreme Court

HIDALGO:
You are a poor, bitter, frustrated Filipino, not a boxing fan…
This year has been devastating for filipino fans:
First, the brain of Pacquiao was switched up side down by a monster right hand, so scrambled that brain was that Pacquio has become an advocate of RBT, a procedures he had opposed for years…

Then the 0ther p4p fraud, Nonito Donaire, a guy who has the same size as Broner, but who has been fighting 122 lbers, was destroyed by Rigondeaux; he claimed it was weight the factor, yet he stays at that weight to continue to prey on smaller fighters…

Hey Hidalgo, no bad feelings, I am simply psychonalysing your bitterness…

Posted May 30, 2013 7:31 pm 


Hidalgo

“Well with THAT logic I can SAY that IF it made a difference then Canelo wouldn’t agree to it.” Wrong. It is most likely that Canelo agreed to it for a number of reasons–it wasn’t his sole decision and very likely his decision was based on much persuasion, coercion, and pressure from Golden Boy, ShowTime, and Mayweather Promotions. They have convinced him that two pounds ain’t that much. But in a fight this big, you know as well as I do Correctamundo, that every little advantage counts. Canelo will live to regret his decision.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:27 pm 


B Red

Hidalgo, whats is wrong with you? Just in enjoy the fight and stop hating. You seem very catty, even Floyd haters like Bears are not complaning and moaning. Get a grip dude

Posted May 30, 2013 7:24 pm 


Hidalgo

Floyd is taking those two extra pounds from Canelo with hopes that it saps his strength and stamina as the fight wears on. It will definitely be a 12-round fight unless Canelo makes a fatal mistake–such as expending too much energy. Floyd will potshot and stay outside until they get to about the 9th round or until he sees obvious signs of Canelo weakening, whichever comes first. At that point, Jr. will pick up the pace, and become braver and more aggressive. And if he feels that Canelo is really faltering late in the fight, Mayweather will likely go for the KO.

Look for Mayweather to put Alvarez under a spell (for lack of a better word)–much like he lured Robert Guerrero–in the hopes that Canelo will fight out of character and chase him around the ring. If that happens, Floyd will win that game hands down. If I were Canelo’s trainer, I would advise him to be frugal with his energy output, to concentrate on quality and accuracy of punches rather than quantity, and to NOT, under any circumstances, chase Floyd around the ring. My words would be, “Look, don’t become frustrated or desperate because you can’t hit him. You ought to know you’re going to miss more often than not. But capitalize on what you know you can do. Keep your focus. Don’t lose faith in yourself. Don’t chase him. Don’t go into a defensive shell, but don’t stick your chin out for him to knock off. Use your jab for twelve full rounds. Hit Floyd a lot on the arms, on the shoulders and go to the body often. When Floyd does the shoulder roll, blast his left arm and right side with combinations. You have a lot of tools that you know how to use very well. Use them! You’re in for the fight of your life so no matter what, don’t be foolish, hasty, or impatient. ”

Canelo will be giving up two pounds that are of vital importance to him. He will have to make up for that loss by fighting the best fight of his life.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:22 pm 


Love-the-Sport

If Alvarez comes in at 152 (or higher and pays a fine / fee) and then rehydrates to 170 (or higher) — then Mayweather wins easily.

Why? Alvarez vs. Trout was much closer than judges scores. Alvarez wins in my opinion — but he was also reaching, missing, flayling, and also very gassed in many parts of the fight. He fights in spurts and it was close. Mayweather is much more fluid with better defense and better movement than Trout. Mayweather wins easily.

If Alvarez comes in at 150 or 151 and then rehydrates to 160 or so — then Alvarez wins.

Why? Because Alvarez will be in better shape. Alvarez will be faster. Alvarez will be quicker. He will have a better chance to catch Mayweather.

I don’t think the heavy weight gives Alvarez the advantage. I think the reverse. I hope Alvarez comes in lighter, smoother, faster — and then we may have one of the greatest fights in the history of the sport.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:21 pm 


spartacus 65

Even more pathetic is that the hip hop crowds hero laughs ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK WITH YOUR MONEY, raping you guys at the tune of 70 dollars a pop pay per view to witness his scripted EVENTS. MUCH like michael Jordan raping the same crowd to the tune of 250 dollars for a pair of his sneakers just to say we back you against the MAN. SMART.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:20 pm 


Jay rock

Why better fight then top trash

Posted May 30, 2013 7:19 pm 


h8er

people who don’t like Floyd already have a built in excuse for when canelo loses this fight

Posted May 30, 2013 7:17 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

And actually its Canelo that asked for the catchweight. Floyd SAID 147 or NO Fight. And Floyd is the BOSS. SO Canelo asked the BOSS to DO a catchweight at 152 and Floyd compromised and said LETS DO IT. SO go take a FACTS class.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:15 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“if Canelo rehydrates to 20 lbs. or more than what Floyd weighs on fight night, then beats Floyd”-Then I am proven CORRECT yet again!! The History of Boxing says that I am CORRECT when I SAID that It takes at least a 20 lbs advantage to trump SKILLS…..NOW IF Canelo comes in LESS than 20 lbs heavier than Floyd on Fight night and still WINS then THAT would be ASTONISHING.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:12 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“If the two-pound catchweight didn’t make a difference Floyd wouldn’t ask for it.”-Well with THAT logic I can SAY that IF it made a difference then Canelo wouldn’t agree to it. But he DID agree TO it. Therefore the 2 pound catchweight makes NO Difference. I have NEVER in MY LIFE seen a man LOSE because of 2 pounds. IF Canelo LOSES because of 2 pounds then he’s a HISTORIC SISSY…..Floyd just went from 148 at the weigh in vs. Cotto to 146. IF 2 pounds meant SO much then Floyd should have LOST to Guerrero.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:08 pm 


PEEJ

I think Floyd is only asking for it to show Canelo who is boss. And like I said before Canelo called out Floyd not the other way around. And I. The interview Floud said he is not a Jr Middle he is a welter. He said he went up and fought Oscar and Cotto because he believed in his skills. That say a lot there. I am a welterweight not Jr middleweight.

Posted May 30, 2013 7:05 pm 


Hidalgo

But we’ll see how you tweet if Canelo rehydrates to 20 lbs. or more than what Floyd weighs on fight night, then beats Floyd. My money says you’ll be tripping over your foolish tongue for the following six months.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:57 pm 


Ivan Chargov

Yero Moody: IS BACK. I’M OUTTA HERE!

Posted May 30, 2013 6:55 pm 


Hidalgo

“Unless there’s a 20 lb difference, weight doesn’t WIN Fights SKILLS DO. SO anyone WHO uses THAT excuse needs to learn more about Boxing.” You are a fool from top to bottom Correctamundo. If the two-pound catchweight didn’t make a difference Floyd wouldn’t ask for it. There’s no two ways about it. If it didn’t matter he wouldn’t ask for a catchweight. But he did. So it DOES make a DIFFERENCE and it IS IMPORTANT!

Posted May 30, 2013 6:55 pm 


Hidalgo

“Just so folks know Canelo called Floyd out after the Cintron fight and said he would meet him at 150. So Floyd said 152. Whats wrong with that.”

I’ll tell you what’s wrong with that, Peej. That was then and this is now. Canelo fought Cintron in 2011. Canelo’s learned a lot both about boxing and the boxing business in the past two years. Besides, Floyd just proved that his word isn’t worth squat. Why should Canelo’s be?

Posted May 30, 2013 6:53 pm 


Proud African

Awesome article. After Mayweather is done with Canelo, the latter will become mentally shot and will be ripe for others to defeat with impunity.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:53 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Unless there’s a 20 lb difference, weight doesn’t WIN Fights SKILLS DO. SO anyone WHO uses THAT excuse needs to learn more about Boxing.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:52 pm 


Floyd Lieweather

Lieweather go pick then cherries before they ripe, when they rotten, but never when they ripe even though this is when they tastes the sweetest.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:51 pm 


terror tim

Canelo is going to have to come in to the fight in the shape of his life. As just stated he isn’t going to win this on the cards, stoppage is the only way and a guy with only one knockdown [one legit that wasn't called and one that shouldn't have been so its even] in his career. In order to land just like Greylo is saying he is going to have to be able to throw all night. That was the only reason some thought Pac could once challenge him because Pac doesn’t slow down. I don’t think Floyd slows down either and I didn’t think Pac would have won [but we will sadly never know]. This is a dangerous fight in that Canelo will be the stronger man and if he lands something meaningful it is possible he gets a moment to finish the job. Not something I would bet on but at least you can envision him losing this one. Good fight, now stack the card. Any chance Gamboa vs Broner can get on the undercard [i know the answer but i am dreaming? Oh Golden Boy throw us a bone and up Garcia and Matthysse there. Now I am delusional.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:50 pm 


Hidalgo

“Canelo can rehydrate so theres no excuses when Canelo gets taken to school.” Yes there is: It’s a catchweight fight. While Floyd comes in healthy and strong at his optimum fighting weight, Canelo has to make a catchweight at weigh-in, that’s two pounds below the 154 jr. middleweight limit. It’s a handicap. What is it that you don’t understand about catchweights?

Posted May 30, 2013 6:45 pm 


Floyd Lieweather

Cash cow or catchweight cow? What do ya reckon?

Posted May 30, 2013 6:45 pm 


Floyd Lieweather

Delk1

” MAYWEATHER is a CHERRYPICKER”

Agreed Delk1

Posted May 30, 2013 6:43 pm 


Greylo

Yep, Canelo isn’t going to outbox Floyd and he had a hard time finding Trout. It’s going to be even harder for him to connect consistantly with Floyd. I’ve seen Mayweather take some good solid power shots, but never more than one at a time. If Canelo can somehow connect to floyd with more than one power shot in a round then only will we see how good floyd’s chin is. I just can’t see it happening though unless floyd just has the worst night of his boxing career.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:41 pm 


Titopa

T-Mellow – I totally agree!

Posted May 30, 2013 6:36 pm 


srminimo

For Canelo to beat Floyd he’s going to have to do something he hasn’t shown he can do: Be the typical Mexican pressure fighter to go along with his physical skills. Canelo has to put consistent pressure on Floyd for 12 rounds. He’s not going outbox Floyd, he’s not really a one punch KO guy and, contrary to what he believes, he’s not faster than Floyd, even the 36 year old version. His one great advantages are size and youth, but if he can’t put his weight on Floyd consistently he won’t take advantage of those either. He can’t match Mayweather in stamina and against Trout he found himself leading in because he couldn’t figure out how to get to him the first few rounds. If he does that against a true sharpshooter like Floyd he’ll get very shy very soon.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:30 pm 


mark

Not a big mayweather fan anymore ,But i know he will beat canelo easy ! I stll want the fight with Pacman !!!!!!!!!!!!Canelo has one to three combination but not one thur six combination like Pacman. styles make fights and Pacman has the right stlye to beat Mayweather. I think canelo is over hype and is in the same class as Chavez jr. (MAYWEATHER BY KO)

Posted May 30, 2013 6:29 pm 


B Red

If I were Floyd i would have demanded a same day weigh in of 154 at fight night. Canelo can rehydrate so theres no excuses when Canelo gets taken to school. The people that are hating are trolls and morons
who despise one of the greatest fighters of alltime. YA DIG

Posted May 30, 2013 6:28 pm 


Richard Bulger

Saul better attend ‘Cutting off the Ring School’, before he enters the Ring and Floyd takes him to School of Hard Knocks. I think the fight will be a snooze fest, jab jab hold hold run run, step and run step and fetch it. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ the only good part will be the lead in and the eye to eye in center of ring where Floyd will be the Big Guy looking down on Little Red. More boring than a Wlad fight. Jab and hold, jab and hold. Funny how Ali could do it, jab and hold, and Floyd can do it, jab and hold, but Wlad cannot do it because it is boring. WTF…………what is up with that?? You Geniuses out there in TweetLand can tell me this.? And this board is plum full of Geniuses….

Posted May 30, 2013 6:28 pm 


Dino

It’s only a 2 pound diference from 154, no big deal, I mean why even catch weight the fight with only a 2 pound diff, Money will win anyway, too slick, too smart.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:21 pm 


PEEJ

Just so folks know Canelo called Floyd out after the Cintron fight and said he would meet him at 150. So Floyd said 152. Whats wrong with that. Canelo is the one calling Floyd out. Floyd never mentioned Canelos name.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:17 pm 


eric

Yes its eric, hope canelo dosent grow to 7 foot fight night after he rehydrates.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:17 pm 


Anonymous

Mayweather should be careful canelo will loose 150lbs of pure water weight , and somehow not die from weigh n 4 lbs, then rehydrate to 475 pounds snd grow 3 or 4 feet taller on fight night and gain 75lbs of pure muscle. Foght nite canelo will enter the ring 475 lbs and near 7 foot tall. Just play n, im suprised I havent read more stories about humans draining down 2 and half gallons of water and somehow staying alive, then fight night turnig into king kong. Floyd mayweather will be my idol and I will never say another cherry statment about him if he takes the fight and thats win loose or draw. I said the same things until w. Klitschko and david haye fought. I think you great floyd but you havent proved it in the back of my mind yet, I have doubt, but now your going to man up and make us all proud and prove everybody wrong once and forgood.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:14 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Delk1-CORRECT!!! Canelo is facing a supposed Cherry picker SO unless he is a CHERRY HIMSELF he should score the WIN with EASE.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:12 pm 


Shane

FMJ leaves nothing to chance. He makes sure the only way he loses is if lightning would strike him in the ring. He won’t even fight outdoors due to slim chance.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:10 pm 


PEEJ

Exactly which is terrible. Not everybody is a power puncher, some fighters have to win on pure skill. But for everybody who says Floyd has no power, you really don’t see anybody just running up on him neither.

Posted May 30, 2013 6:09 pm 


lman

Also the only reason mannys name keeps getting brought up is because cotto who has now fought trout and mayweather could only decision him but manny tko him

Posted May 30, 2013 6:00 pm 


Delk1

WHY is everyone complaining about 2 pounds. MAYWEATHER is a CHERRYPICKER. RIGHT???????

So this should be easy for CANELO!! lol

Posted May 30, 2013 6:00 pm 


Delk1

Mayweather by Decision or late TKO

Posted May 30, 2013 5:58 pm 


Delk1

IF Canelo can’t beat a damm near 37 year old CHERRY PICKER then he is a FRAUD. RIGHT GUYS!! LMFAO!!!!

Posted May 30, 2013 5:57 pm 


lman

Canelo is getting the biggest payday of his career, also unlike most posters who think he is not skilled or seasoned enough to beat Floyd I don’t think that’s the issue, I just don’t think he has the heart, when Floyd starts pot shoting him does he keep pressing the action or does he what he did with trout

Posted May 30, 2013 5:54 pm 


Seamus

. if Canelo is too big then he is too big,its not rocket science…

Posted May 30, 2013 5:50 pm 


philly shell

2 pounds and he’s a cherrypicker? Please give it a rest. I just lost 2 pounds after I went to the men’s room. Mayweather’s taking the biggest and best fight out there outside of Pacquiao and Martinez. Martinez is fighting at middleweight and has been for a while, so that’s not the next natural fight for Mayweather if it happens at all (I’m guessing it’ll be one of Floyd’s last fights if Martinez is still around), and Arum screwed up the Pacquiao fight. Many of you (myself included) didn’t think Floyd would take the Alvarez fight over 147, so 152’s not bad at all.

By the way, who are David Alexander and Ander Berto? Relatives of Devon and Andre perhaps?

Posted May 30, 2013 5:48 pm 


Ghetto Thug

I disagree with this article, haters wil ALWAYS finda an excuse to hate

Posted May 30, 2013 5:42 pm 


PEEJ

There will always be Floyd haters especially when your just that good

Posted May 30, 2013 5:28 pm 


Neils

Another Floyd nut hugging article. A catch weight is a catch weight. Doesn’t matter who’s doing it. It still is what it is. The quality in this site really is getting worse. I mean ffs. This guy cant even get fighters names correct.

Posted May 30, 2013 5:17 pm 


Alex

SHANE:

Canelo is better than Margarito. Margarito is a come forward, slow, plodding, banger. Great Chin but slooooow. Old Shane Mosley looked like SRR against him. Floyd would have made it a bore fest. Pot-shot and run like he did with Baldomir.

Canelo has Better boxing skills, Faster, throws Lethal combinations and Throws a variety of different types of punches.

Canelo’s problem, if we go by his last fight, is stamina which could be down to a number of things and not just pure conditioning from training.

Posted May 30, 2013 5:16 pm 


PEEJ

You can’t argue anything with Margacheato. First off he is a cheater. Second after being gound out about his cheating ways he never won a fight. Actually I think he won once against a bum. Third he was a cheater and his whole career is now suspect and can simply be thrown out

Posted May 30, 2013 5:13 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Mayweather was very critical of Manny Pacquiao for fighting champions at catch weights…” – True, but I don’t think it offsets the value of facing the best comp available. Floyd is doing that against Canelo so I’m not going to complain about catch weights. In the end all that matters is fans get to see good match ups, which we’re not accustomed to seeing at this point. Unfortunately.

Posted May 30, 2013 5:08 pm 


Shane

Canelo is no better than Antonio Margarito, in fact you can easily argue AM was much better and more experienced. Pac thrashed him with an awful beating. Canelo is already showing stamina issues due to making 154 and is open to hit. Even at 154 he gets outpointed as FMJ will not let him set, at 152 he wont even have the strength to even wear FMJ down to have ANY chance. But that is who FMJ fools you with everytime out…..a guy with zero chance(and with the weight he sealed it) that is being propped up like he does. How much did 170lbs help AM? The more he gained the worse it was. FMJ hasn’t the guts to stand in and punch with Canelo so it will be a boring UD. Pac of 2 years ago was his biggest threat and FMJ just waited him out to avoid him. Now he wants all to be forgiven fighting a greenhorn not at his best. Pac hits harder than Canelo, remember Mosley on his butt then on his bike for the rest of the fight? Canelo hit him with the kitchen sink and Mosley didn’t run or fall. Never took a step back from FMJ either. This fight is a farce and a mismatch. But by all means….drink the fool aid.

Posted May 30, 2013 5:06 pm 


Anonymous

They will bring up how Mayweather “ducked” the one dimensional club fighter Antonio Margarito, whom a washed up Shane Mosley beat like a drum in a high school marching band”If you are going to discredit Antonio Margarito by saying a washed shane mosley beat him,then you must also DISCREDIT MAYWEATHERS WIN OVER SHANE MOSLEY!!!..Didn’t see anything in this article about that….You must discredit floyd win over victor ortiz who lost to josetio lopez and marcos mandiana…You can’t have it both ways

Posted May 30, 2013 5:04 pm 


Tomato Can

It’s obvious that everyone here is in agreement that Mayweather is the best in the sport, hands down. He’s already getting jabbed for taking this fight at 152, when everyone here knows how big Canelo is, and how little Mayweather is. Top that off with the fact that, Pacquiao fans are here knocking Mayweather, but are giving praise to Pacquiao for facing Rios (another Arum fighter, coming off a questionable win, and actual loss). Canelo, the non-established fighter has called out Mayweather, and wants this fight. His biggest fight to date, and probably the biggest fight he’ll ever get. I don’t like catch weight fights myself, but when all’s said and done, it’ll only be fans that never recognized any of Mayweathers accomplishments in the first place, that will complain about this catch weight fight. Besides, Canelo just might win this fight.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:58 pm 


Alex

Public Enemy:
Yes, re-hydration limit sounds better since you could easily argue being in favor of it since the division stipulates a “154” pound “LIMIT”…so why stop at the scales? Giving up +6 pounds to get to 160 is generous. But overall, divisions would change if this ruling was in place.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:57 pm 


Ray

Either way its gonna be a good fight and much better than vs Guerrero BS. Its good thats its happening win or lose.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:54 pm 


Alex

bareknuckles101:
Yes, I would like to see him fight Martinez too but realistically, these guys are a lot bigger than Floyd. Making weight for the scales means little when a fighter can blow up in weight by fight-time. Sometimes it matters and sometimes it doesn’t. it may matter in this both these fights because of the skill level.

I would still like to see that fight though. It’s not my health. Just my money. Sentiments of the fans.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:53 pm 


Greylo

Wow, some serious Mayweather hate going on here.

He’s taking a good dangerous fighter, what more do you people want him to do?

There is only one fight that is questionable and that was the Castillo fight which was a really close one, maybe even a loss.

He’s fought some of the best fighters out there and beaten them.

I’ve done some boxing and I don’t see any problems with a catchweight fight. If someone feels comfortable at a certain weight then that’s what it is. It’s understandable. Canelo is the one who wants to prove himself so whatever weight he needs to fight at should be the matter.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:52 pm 


bareknuckles101

Alex – Martinez seems to be the one people want to see him fight the most at 154 Canelo’s too slow and open.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:34 pm 


te tumbo

Canelo will destroy Floyd inside 2 rds, so Canelo can get inside of me.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:30 pm 


Alex

hecdog: Pac vs. Rios: Canelo would destroy Rios. Canelo is the much tougher fight. And Arum would not allow Pac to get into the ring with Canelo unless they could get him down to 141.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:30 pm 


Alex

hecdog: WHO SHOULD FLOYD FIGHT AT 147-154 THAT IS FIGHTING IN THOSE DIVISIONS THAT IS A “STAR” ?

Posted May 30, 2013 4:28 pm 


hecdog

Silencing critics? Seriously? Floyd Mayweather is fighting a young strong fighter that the media has mostly made. Canelo has fought Trout, Josesito Lopez, Mosely, Cintron, Gomez and Mathew Hilton, and now he’s somehow turned into some unbeatable monster, please people, Canelo at any weight does not, and I say again does not have the skills, experience or style to beat a Mayweather that hits, hugs, hold and runs. The red head barely beat a Trout that has no power and okay speed, but he fight was very, very close. Someone please tell me how Canelo is going to beat Mayweather’s safety first style, it’s not going to happen unless the ring is 10×10, fight is held in Texas, and all the judges, commission, referee and State Governor are all Canelo’s cousins. Lets see, speed goes to FM, experience goes to FM, boxing skills goes to FM, athleticism goes to FM, weight issue goes to FM, Defense goes to FM, fight site goes to FM, money goes to FM. Floyd Mayweather preys on the fan base of his opponents, and picks mostly Mexican holidays to make the most money he can knowing Canelo’s, De La Hoyas, Ortiz, and Cotto’s fan base go to know ends to see their boxer win. Smart move by Al Haymon. Mayweather follows his direction, and not the other way around. It’s too bad that Floyd never fought the best of his era, and he still avoids Pacquiao. The Mega build up for this fight vs Canelo will lead to the biggest let down of a fight. This is nothing more than an illusion of a great fight, but it will be a usual type Mayweather fight. The fans will be excited, the media will be all over this fight, the world will tune in, and then the fight will be simply boring. A real fight to watch is the king of PPV, Manny Pacquiao. He will take on someone that comes to fight in Brandon Rios. The reason Floyd made this fight is obviously to have bigger PPV ratings then the great Manny Pacquiao. If Floyd should lose this fight by some miracle, he will be what we all thought, a good fighter that never really wanted to or could beat the truly great fighters. I wonder how much $ they will charge for this fight? $100.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:26 pm 


bareknuckles101

Good fight catch weights suck though not blaming anyone just catchweights themselves are a excuse and will be used as one, There like 7 awesome wars that could be made why’s no one clamoring for that Lucas vs Rios/ Alvarado etc.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:23 pm 


Alex

And for people complaining about a two pound difference for the scales, something I’m not for since there is no point, how about we discuss why fighters are allowed to blow up in weight by fight time. What kind of b.s. is that?

Posted May 30, 2013 4:23 pm 


Alex

Who should Floyd fight then if Canelo isn’t your choice?

Remember, 147 is Floyd’s true division. 154 is where he goes to make the big PPV’s…Oscar and Cotto.

Posted May 30, 2013 4:22 pm 


curtley

This is a brilliant fight, the 2lb catch weight is a bit odd but is more about FMJ pulling the shots than any distinct advantage unless be believes that final 2lbs will totally drain the 170lb Mexican

Posted May 30, 2013 4:15 pm 


fast79z

this is a good fight as far as top level fights go, but dont kid yourself, you can bet your ass he was MADE to fight him, great fight for sure

Posted May 30, 2013 4:07 pm 


T-Mellow

Ray the catchweight is to make sure Canelo comes in under 170. You wouldn’t ask Hopkins to fight David Haye. You wouldn’t ask Canelo to fight to fight Ward. Well this is the same difference.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:57 pm 


T-Mellow

Titopia, my thing is this: If Mayweather would not have taken this fight he would have been crucified for cherry picking. When he beats Canelo he wil be demolished for installing a 2 lb catch. This fight is win/win for Canelo because if he wins hes king of the world and if he loses it was because he was supposed to. The real truth is Canelo isn’t quite ready for Mayweather so the so the excuses are mounting now. If you don’t make excuses for one then dont do it for another. Canelo called out the P4P champ.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:50 pm 


The Kingslayer

I can’t wait.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:42 pm 


Edgar Guevara

Like Mayweather says I beat this guy and the fans are still not sastify. He will Canelo, everyone is expecting this fight and still we are not sastify. He didn’t fight Pacquiao is past, now he is fighting a young 40-0 champion and even him is asking for the fight with Mayweather. He beat a young lion Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero now Canelo Alvarez. Three good young guy in his resume. If people don’t give him credit by now. Then live with it in pain.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:41 pm 


Mex

Canelo is not ready. But come on rematch on Mayweathers last fight on contract Canelo should be ready…smart move by GBP to double there $$$$$$$

Posted May 30, 2013 3:40 pm 


gray

i wonder if jose suliman is still going to threaten canelo with being stripped if he keeps the WBA title. Bet that little worm doesn’t make it a principle matter now

Posted May 30, 2013 3:36 pm 


Titopa

T-Mellow – They’re already getting those excuses ready….but the bottom line is, Canelo simply is NOT ready for what’s to come. Maybe one day, but not right now.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:33 pm 


Titopa

Mexicano – I’m sure you’re going to blame those 2lbs as to why Canelo lost (or will lose), but the truth is, that he’s just a kid….he’s FAR too inexperienced at THIS level. There isn’t a single person on his resume that has prepared him for a fight like this, he’ll be stepping into the ring with a man who can DO IT ALL, and don’t forget, this man can do it ALL better than ANYONE in the entire sport of boxing..

Posted May 30, 2013 3:32 pm 


T-Mellow

I know you b*tches aint complaining about a 2 pound catch weight knowing this guys is going to come in the ring 170. STFU with those tired ass excuses.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:32 pm 


Titopa

FlatNose – Spot on!

Posted May 30, 2013 3:27 pm 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

alvarez has second thoughts trys to back out of fight wants to come in at 160

Posted May 30, 2013 3:22 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Nope. Do EXCUSE makers ever RUN OUT of EXCUSES???? After Floyd WINS and even BEFORE he WINS I am SURE that someone will generate more EXCUSES……A WISE man once told ME that LOSERS always have an EXCUSE. And he was CORRECT.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:14 pm 


FlatNose

Besides being a master at boxing , Floyd is also quite smart at choosing the right opponents with the right style.

True, it will still be an impressive feat when Floyd outpoints Canelo, and he will, make no mistake about it.

But I’m not sure that Floyd would fight Canelo, if Saul was a quick fisted southpaw like Paq.

Lets not forget, Floyd shamelessly avoided Manny, making up all that malarkey about PED’s.

Floyds really good, but he chooses his opponents wisely and carefully.

This fight is easy to predict. Floyd keeps Canelo off balance all night long and beats him to the punch in every exchange.

Ho-hum. Same old same old.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:05 pm 


Ray

I actually never liked the catchweights with Pacquioa. The author of this article is a Mayweather fan. You can tell because he called Canelo “Ginger” and said David instead of Devon, but he got Mayweather’s info right from the start. If you dont see anything wrong with Mayweather asking Canelo for a catchweight and not Cotto then there is something wrong with you. The catchweight is there for a reason.

Posted May 30, 2013 3:03 pm 


BOXING GOD

Hosteen – He is silencing the critics who felt he would not fight Alvarez and pick any easir opponent.

Posted May 30, 2013 2:59 pm 


wutupdoe

No, Canelo actually put a hurting on Trout.

Posted May 30, 2013 2:54 pm 


Titopa

Hosteen – Because the “public” (Canelo fans) is/was demanding it…but true boxing fans know that Canelo is being fed to Floyd, the kid simply isn’t ready….yet!

Posted May 30, 2013 2:54 pm 


bol

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Posted May 30, 2013 2:53 pm 


Hosteen

Exactly whom is he silencing?? Alvarez did NOT beat Trout and Mayweather should easily be favored over him.

Posted May 30, 2013 2:52 pm 



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