Canelo whipped the man who dominated Floyd’s toughest opponent…so you KNOW who beat the toughest fighter.Posted June 7, 2013 1:23 pm
Canelo’s KO ratio is not that much better than Floyds infact he has only 4 more KOs that Money while his been feasting on smaller men but is considered the more powerful puncher. Can anyone explain this theory.Posted June 3, 2013 9:19 pm
Tark ONLY a FOOL like you would compare Canelos resume and Floyds…. Canelo had mostly SOFT touches whereas Floyd has had 21 World title fights been lineal Champ at 3 weights, won Titles in 5 and beat several HOF fighters… Canelos only win worth real convo is Trout and when Alvarez is no longer able to hide out at 154 we will see how he looks at the appropriate weight class…Posted June 3, 2013 8:04 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Godspeed Gonzo…Posted June 2, 2013 8:51 pm
Only 43 tried and failed — Castillo tried twice, and fell through his ass even worse on the 2nd occasion — a fight where a “Hit Team” of judges were brought in to robb Floyd.. Floyd won every round by a wide margin and the hit team couldn’t do it’s dirty work..
Canelo is the 44th to try to beat Floyd … But on the other hand, Mayweather is the 43rd to try to beat the Cinnamon Kid.. The other 42 have failed, one failed twice.Posted June 2, 2013 4:39 pm
“44 have tried 44 have failed…” How original.Posted June 2, 2013 2:49 pm
Jonesing For Vulture Facts
Much respect for the daily fix…Posted June 2, 2013 2:05 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Gonzo’s vulture fact of the dayPosted June 2, 2013 1:50 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Gonzo’s vuture fact of the day.
Vulture species are divided into New World and Old World groups depending on their ranges. There are more vulture species in the Old World, and they are not closely related to New World vultures but are often considered together because they fill a similar ecological niche. New World vultures may be more closely related to storks than to other raptors.Posted June 2, 2013 1:49 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Brother Mongrel.. There’s no need to be so modest here, there’s nothing Gonzo despises more than modesty and humility if it’s at the expense of truth and honesty. Your role in promoting Vulture awareness on ESB is fa more significant than you realize. You should not only take great satisfaction from that, but you should also puff your feathers out with pride knowing that your input is not only going to make a huge contribution to helping promote vulture awareness (around the entire globe.. my fanbase is as vast and as deep as any ocean you know and one that is growing at a staggeringly exponential rate each and every day), but it will also make an equally large and very tangible difference to actual vulture’s lives and their public perception around the world. And your input is also going to, and I can not stress this enough, also actually save vulture lives as well, and as I know you are already all too keenly aware, and as highlighted in Gonzo’s vulture fact numero uno a little further down the page, there are at least 14 species of vulture that are either under threat or on the endangered list.
Thank you for your kind words also Brother Mongrel.. one shall endeavour to do one’s diligent and faithful best as an ambassador for the promotion of vulture awareness. To be perfectly honest, if not a little conceited and self-congratulatory, with not only yourself, the ESB collective, and indeed also one’s self too, I can’t think of a better equipped man for the job even if I do say so myself. And I think I speak for everyone on here when I say that. In fact, I know god damn well I do.Posted June 2, 2013 1:48 pm
44 selected people have tried…Posted June 2, 2013 12:19 pm
44 have tried 44 have failed…Posted June 2, 2013 8:42 am
not sure i understand the comment in the article ‘Mayweather Jr. is facing a young untested fighter with extremely limited ring experience’ hasn’t Alvarez had 40+ fights and many recent title fights. i wouldn’t call that untested or limited. i think FMJ will win but he may have to drop ‘pretty boy’ from his name after it.Posted June 2, 2013 7:33 am
FRIED CHICKEN, WATERMELON & GRAPE KOOL-AID
FLOYD GONNA GIVE CANELO THE BEATING OF HIS LIFE, YO.Posted June 1, 2013 10:23 pm
Now its Floyd will get beat at first it was Floyd will never take the fight all of you sissy need to STFU. Hater with no I said absolutely No boxing knowledge, just once and for all shut up. You guy are not real boxing fans just fighter fans, and most of you seem to have no real knowledge of the game. Most of you guys should just go watch some MMA which most of you said was going to steam roll boxing. Boxing is still going strong, and still will be when all of the hater are gone. So, do us real boxing fans a favor and leave now…..please.Posted June 1, 2013 9:48 pm
Look at the Marquez bout Mayweather 160 at fight time Marquez 140 and that with rocks in his pantsPosted June 1, 2013 8:37 pm
Canelo takes Floyds O, and the Floyd Nut Sack Swingers go, oh NO!.
I am the greatest fight “poet” EVER born!!!!Posted June 1, 2013 7:10 pm
Lieweather 160 fight time easy. Easy!
Stutter stutter wha wha.. what dat? Lieweather want rid the sport of drug cheats doesn’t know what TRT is. Lmfao
Busted!Posted June 1, 2013 6:54 pm
Fabian, you’re a literal joke and part of a growing contingent of FAKE fight FANS that quite fictitious stats to support weak arguments all the articles are discussing Canelo pushing 170 and Floyd’s fight weights are VERY well known you’re just wasting space with a “Fable” you concocted in the absence of a valid point…Posted June 1, 2013 5:49 pm
“And by the way it is also known that women fart as they walk. And that is a fact.” Women fart? Really? Wow! I’ll let my wife know. :)Posted June 1, 2013 4:18 pm
This fight is a farce.Posted June 1, 2013 4:13 pm
hahahahaha.Posted June 1, 2013 3:31 pm
Shredmon you tweeting twit, it is written all over that FM walks at 154-158. And you know FM will not fight as he walks. He may fart as he walks but he will fight at 150. SCA will not fight at 172 because he will not have the speed at the weight. I think he will show up at 160. So where is all the BS about 22 – 30 lbs of little short guy SCA showing up when Mr Big FM will only be lagging 10 lbs at most. And if SCA show s up heavy he is a fool, because when you fight FM you better have all your ducks in a row including weight. FM is just too crafty and fast a boxer to mess around with bulk when you fight him. I give the short guy a good chance though if he has a good day and FM has a bad day. Only the alinement of the stars will tell that. And by the way it is also known that women fart as they walk. And that is a fact.Posted June 1, 2013 3:10 pm
Excuse me jww.Posted June 1, 2013 3:04 pm
Peej Pac easily beat Bradley and took it easy on him at the time Tim was the #1 jmw that was very impressive anf since i think Marquez juiced imo Pac finally showed that Marquez can no longer hang with him. To me ur better of referencing Pac v Marquez 3 to make ur point because in Pacs last 2 fights hes showed me hes back.Posted June 1, 2013 3:03 pm
Pac stock has already dropped after the Bradley loss and Marquez KO.Posted June 1, 2013 2:48 pm
it’s safe and smart to say that this version of Canelo can only defeat Mayweather at the moment of his decline. of course, that is the enduring hope of every young lion v. a 35+ fighter: that their presumably still-prime but older opponent “gets old, overnight” and they prepare to trigger or nudge that process along. that is the primary intrigue of this matchup. can the peaking 22-year-old match the speed, reflexes, and stamina of a smaller but greater 36-year-old to Bust-Up Mayweather? i favor Mayweather but i’m gonna wait until the weigh-in to make a final prediction. i’ll expect Floyd to prepare to win like he always does. he’s “Money”. i’ll be very interested to learn how Canelo prepares for this matchup like no other in his career. unless he were to defeat Mayweather and face an undefeated Ward at some point in his future. That’s how Big this fight is for Canelo. That’s what he asked for.Posted June 1, 2013 2:17 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Canelo needs to use his youth and strength to his own advantage. Going straight after Floyd from the opening bell may be his only chance. Hanging around waiting for Floyd to figure him out and potshot him all night just won’t do it. I see Canelo telegraphing a bit, and also hesitating, two things Floyd is excellent at exploiting…Posted June 1, 2013 1:51 pm
Tark, Cotto is a HOFEr NOT an ATG he got beat by two ATG’s….Posted June 1, 2013 1:48 pm
Donaire was more dangerous P4Pnthan Guerrero but that does NOT change the fact that he’s a VERY defensive boxer who is not known in his short career for throwing caution to the wind… You contradict yourself when you downplay Fliyds technical brilliance yet you laud a similar effort by Rigondeaux… Of course you want to see Floyd give his foes a better chance of leaving him facedown like Pacquiao against a fighter Foiyd knocked down and toyed with… Of course Canelo is more dangerous than Rios who should have 2 losses after Abril outboxed him… Pacquiao is being fed a come forward, face first fighter coming off a loss because if he cannot impress with Rios, it’s curtains at the top level… Alvarado who is a banger outboxed him last time out… It’s a fun fight to my eye if Pacquiaos still got it he will win easily if he loses it will be a blight on his legacy, he’s 34 not 44 and he was just knocked out by a 39 year old boxer… Again I’m a huge PAC Fan but downplaying the ever surging Mayweather is not gonna dig Manny out of the hole…Posted June 1, 2013 1:47 pm
If Canelo is smart he’ll weigh about 164. He’s not going to weigh 172 into the ring for Floyd — unless his trainers are just stupid.
If I was were training Canelo for this fight I’d tell him the jab is the key. Cotto has an ATG masterful jab. He out jabbed many taller boxers with longer reaches: Mosley, Cheato, Foreman – he floored Clottey with a perfectly timed jab. He out jabbed Mayweather nicely in stretches of their fight. He couldn’t reach Trout with his jab.
Southpaws are always boxing right-handers and right-handers seldom box southpaws. If they’re extremely slick, they take your jab away and flummox you. Unless you box a ton of southpaw slicksters it’s very frustrating. Most guys try to attack them and rip them with rights. Canelo didn’t attack Trout at all. He fought a tactical fight. Saul boxed well versus a superior boxer. He set up some damaging jabs and straight rights from long range. He defended well. Trout was perplexed and found no answers. However Canelo was very lucky. He was way ahead on 2 scorecards—and both Saul and Trout knew it. That amazing fact threw Trout’s whole game plan into a dumpster.
Alvarez needs to be far more active versus Floyd—and the weight making ordeal is starting to take a toll on him. He MUST train down super fine, and get to a more reasonable weight. You have 3.4 months—so lose 2 or 3 pounds each month. Monitor your weight 4 or 5 X a day, every day. If you’re at 164, it’s much easier to dry out to 152 without any debilitating effects. Many boxing trainers say it’s a matter of will. You may be exhausted. The weight making ordeal may have depleted you. But you push your body beyond its limits for the most important fight of your life. I never believed that in my life. That’s stupid. You prepare yourself physically so you can go 12 extremely hard rounds and be fresh as a daisy at the end. It’s almost impossible to fight fatigue and the GOAT at the same time. It just won’t work. If Floyd flags, you have to be able to step it up and take him out. You have to smash him right through the floor boards if it’s the 1st round or the 12th.Posted June 1, 2013 1:45 pm
Hecdog first i wanna say I enjoy ur post and almost always agree with u. Maybe ur a fan of Rios but i expect Pac to obliterate Rios and not even loose a round if not i will be very disappointed. Pac is suppose to be way out of Rios league and for the class i consider Pac to be this should be a tuneup. I gotta agree with SRed if Pac doesn’t go out there and look like Sweepea on this dude my boys stocks gonna drop but im honestly not worried about that happening though.Posted June 1, 2013 1:35 pm
an idiot that knows a nut slurper when he hears one,you too.Posted June 1, 2013 1:33 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
It was a good post idiot…Posted June 1, 2013 1:30 pm
hecdog blah blah blah blah who cares about your nonsense.Posted June 1, 2013 1:28 pm
SREDMOND, saying Rios has a chance does not degrade The Legendary Manny Pacquiao at all. Manny comes to fight, and is a true warrior as ALL fight fans know. Yes he takes chances, and with a fighter like Rios, there’s always the chance that Manny can get caught, and more so because of their fighting warrior mentality. Both come forward and fight. Now, don’t understand, Manny Pacquiao will eventually destroy Rios, but Rios will fight to the end. Canelo is still way too unproven. So what he barely beat Trout, and Trout cannot punch. Pacquaio has power at any time, and I mean real natural punching power. And as far as Rigondeaux and Mayweather goes, Rigo is a much better all around fighter that is flawless in his style. He’s a greaceful fighter that not only boxes and moves well, but he takes chances. You never see him panic. He’s a true master inside the ring, and you can never confuse a Floyd Mayweather that hits, hugs, holds and sprints 10 feet away out of panic. I highly suggest you watch both of their fights, and you will see a big difference in their fighting styles. With Mayweather, he does the same stuff over and over. Rigondeaux thinks, and uses strategy with each opponent. He made Donaire, which by the way is a more difficult fight than Guerrero, and a top P4P fighter look like an amateur. He mixes up punches and angles. It’s hard to break him down because he is a complicated thinking fighter. If you look at Mayweather, he does what’s very predictable, and due to his athleticism, he beats guys. Mayweather uses good defense, counters with mostly one punch at a time, and moves away as fast as he can. Basically, it’s his speed and reflexes, but that he wins his fights with, it’s artistry like Rigondeaux has. Spend some time looking at their individual fights, and you will see how much technical and scientific Rigondeaux is.Posted June 1, 2013 1:11 pm
Tomato there is always winning but not as much as this writers and fans are crying about. As long as fighters follow the weight rules it is what it is. If writers and fans what to cry then do the same all across the board in all fights.Posted June 1, 2013 12:58 pm
He’s still ducking Pacquiao…Posted June 1, 2013 12:57 pm
Gotta say this is a great move by Floyd. A lot of people, myself included have criticised him in the past for not taking the fights the fans really wanted to see him in. But (probably still bar Pacman) this is the fight the fans realy want to see. Also going into the fight fight whilst we will all have Floyd as favorite, the avarage fan will give Alvarez much better odds of beating Floyd than any fighter has since De La Hoya.Posted June 1, 2013 12:51 pm
Floyd gon chop Alvarez’s ass up Easy work!!!Posted June 1, 2013 12:50 pm
Winner by UD yeah !Posted June 1, 2013 12:49 pm
Yup many fans saw fighters like PW and Margo as guys having success because PDF there obvious size advantages. Margarito was unable to compete at 154 but he was a monster at WW. The same with PW.Posted June 1, 2013 12:39 pm
Floyd cant do right for doing wrong everyone was saying how he cherry picks opponents and when he finally picks someone who 90% of you said he would sidestep now you have put a negative spin on it by saying alvarez is an untested fighter. Name an opponent for floyd who you think would be suitable.Posted June 1, 2013 12:38 pm
James there are tons of post complaining about Williams and Marg ballooning to 164 on fight night.Posted June 1, 2013 12:22 pm
Well, according to team mayweather, Cotto was really an undefeated fighter becz he was weight drained when he was absolutely destroyed by pacman, and that was for a 1lb catchweight. Hmmmm….so does that mean Canelo will still be undefeated if pbf beats him, by making him weight drained by 2lbs? Does the same standard apply? Nonetheless, weight drained or not, Canelo is a VERY untested fighter who will be outsmarted by pbf. Canelo has a punchers chance. That’s about it.Posted June 1, 2013 12:06 pm
How about Paul William 6feet 3 and the guy use to make weight at 147. Man nobody ever made a big deal about that he use come in the ring at 170 the day of the fight. That was cool if he was able to do that good for him. The rules are the rules and if they change them fine. But this rules are to make the weight and is all fair. This writers and fans here are just bunch of Canelo haters. Floyd will win regardless.Posted June 1, 2013 12:06 pm
Tomato Can and Sredmond to poster who always speak the voice of reason!!Posted June 1, 2013 12:03 pm
Years ago Gatti (right before the Mayweather fight) rehydrated to huge perportions and destroyed a much smaller Joey Gamanche. Other than size these two were thought to be on equal skill levels. Fighters who are able to rehydrate well and out size their opponents have a huge advantage. Fighters that rehydrate a lot and come in sluggish are normally older war torn fighters…Posted June 1, 2013 11:55 am
Why do people care so much about the stupid weight this rules apply to everyone. As long as you make weight it is all fair in weight. I favor Floyd to win regarding in weight difference or not. Floyd can be what ever he wants at any time and Canelo to. Floyd never gives his unofficial weight in his fights, he might be heavier than people think, but who cares he makes weight and that what counts. To all you Canelo hater enough. There is nothing here move on.Posted June 1, 2013 11:53 am
Boom, Floyd and WINNING!Posted June 1, 2013 11:47 am
James, your post in nonsensical why NOT abandon weight classes ALL together…??? Floyd Mayweather fighting a guy who is 180 pounds is totally unfair MANY of the greatest fighters in history have LOST to bigger men the adage is “A good BIG man beats a GOOD little man” not vice versa…. Sugar Ray Robinson, Alexis Arguello, Thomas Hearns, Oscar De La Hoya and Felix Trinidad were all stopped facing BIGGER fighters…. Downplaying or totally ignoring a massive hypothetical size advantage like 152 vs 180 is bizzarre and reeks of bias…. If Floyd Mayweather commonly outweighed his opponents by 20-25 pounds he would remain undefeated till he was 55 years old with his skillset… What guys don’t wanna be honest about is that they are seeking a way for Floyds unreal skills to be overcome by size NOT by a comprably sized World Class boxer who gets the job done…. Floyd was SUPER generous with Canelo and he is STILL gonna win…Posted June 1, 2013 11:47 am
Floyd and brutal…lolPosted June 1, 2013 11:43 am
This guy Fabian Forte, is the NEW ESB liar I see, Floyd has NEVER weighed 154 during a bout NEVER been reported walking around at 158, he has been under the WW limit at weigh in more than once… Canelo cannot pop to 160 that would make him a SMALL 154 pounder which the WORLD knows he is NOT… But again none of this matters when another man is beating the HELL out of you… And thats whats gonna happen… I like Canelo but I am hoping for Floyd to be unusually brutal its time for someone to pay a serious toll for even pretending to his throne… Canelo might need to be made an example of….Posted June 1, 2013 11:40 am
Tachyon I don’t get you man. Are you trying to say if you make the weight and you ballon up is not fair. This is the way it is and lots of times it backfires because you become slower or weaker for loosing all that weight the night before. This writer and Floyd fans make a big deal over nothing. This rules apply to everyone and for some reason they want to change them for the best 147 and 154 guy who is Floyd. Floyd doesn’t need this dum catch weight of 152 even at 154 Canello can ballon up to 180 and Floyd will still win. Hasn’t PAC showed this writers and Fans you can ballon as high as you want but you are still getting your but beat down. Ask Margarito what PAC did to him. ballooning up is overrated.Posted June 1, 2013 11:37 am
Publicenemyisdumb and Canelo has fought who? over the hill blown up feather weights. While coming into the fight weighing 172 LOL what a freaking joke.Posted June 1, 2013 11:32 am
Ferocious Rabbit now you know why Floyd is fighting Canelo Showtime under closed doors must have told him no more Bloated featherweights or over the hill past primed fighters or will tear the contractPosted June 1, 2013 11:28 am
Floyd walks at 155 to 158 lbs………Posted June 1, 2013 11:27 am
Canelo will not be 172………..the little guy will come in under 160, and the taller Floyd may come in at 154 at fight night. Only a fool like James Toney would blow up for fight night so he could be a fat pig for slaughter.Posted June 1, 2013 11:21 am
Some of guys are insane. Boxing weight division were designed so a 172 pound fighter could not fight a 147 pound fighter. You fools seem to forget that but think its ok for PBF to fight someone who will out weigh him by 30 pounds or more. Bunch of bias bastards. If Froch was to fight B-hop and B-Hop weighted 210 pounds on fight night you fools would call your elected officials screaming for boxing to change to the rules and the fight would be canceled. Why should a 172 pound fighter be allowed to fight for a 147 pound title? If you weigh 172 on fight night then you have to fight at Light Heavy not anything below. What gets me is you fools are trying to justify a guy who should be fighting Dawson, Cloud, Pascal etc. Hell Froch weighs 168 and want even fight B-hop at 172 but you idiots are fine with PBF weighing 147 fighting Canelo at 172. There are no words to describe some of the pathetic fools that post.Posted June 1, 2013 11:04 am
Anyway, it will be another boring 12 rounds and UD .Posted June 1, 2013 10:32 am
Floyd is slower than he once was…Posted June 1, 2013 10:27 am
Canelo did NOT win via robbery what is TRUE is that those silly scores somewhat tainted his victory and gave the appearence that absent a KO Trout had no shot… I favored Canelos heavier punches to Trouts activity but in truth it was a close fight… In their efforts to devalue a prospective Mayweather win I have seen some posters go so far as to state Canelo did NOT win a single round… I have SERIOUS contempt for excuse makers especially when you are discussing PRIME fighters…Posted June 1, 2013 10:23 am
” Canelo showed that he was able to adjust vs a guy who has the height advantage and the reach advantage. He was sticking and moving and he WON showing that the strategy that I stated is CORRECT” Yet you have the balls to claim that Canelo won the fight “by robbery.” You really are a two-faced maggot.Posted June 1, 2013 10:00 am
That article read like it had been written by an 8 year old. And not one from a country with decent schools.
Hecdog, saying “Rios has a chance with Pacquiao” only denigrates Pacquiao and crushes the notion that he’s in Floyd’s league any longer..The Pacquiao who stopped Cotto would have been assumed to MURDER Brandon Rios who is fun and tough, but really a POOR mans Antonio Margarito… You have graphically shown your bias and hypocrisy towards Floyd’s fighting style ie “come to fight” because you treated Rigondeaux like a conquering hero when he fought a VERY technical and LOW ACTION fight against Donaire, I agree he won buy Loud was FAR more entertaining against Guerrero… Nobody’s gonna confuse Rigondeaux with being an all action fighter so why the bias against Floyd’s style? It’s really a bias against Floyd… And I have heard your weak rebuttal, getting knocked down on the break does not make him Arturo Gatti, it just means he got caught…I love Pacquiao, but he loses to Rios he’s finished and Rios is NOT as dangerous as Canelo who would knock him out without much struggle…Posted June 1, 2013 9:02 am
This is still worth watching I’m glad next I hope will be Sergio Floyd has ducked him for years he even said catch weight . Lets hopePosted June 1, 2013 8:07 am
According to Forbes, Floyd’s fight with Guerrero lost showtime 12 million. This is business and he will be under some real pressure to deliver on his 200mn contract or renegotiate new terms.Posted June 1, 2013 6:26 am
I said it would be better for Floyd to fight Canelo sooner rather then later, because Alvarez will only get a little better each time he fights while Floyd will just get a little bit older each time out. i agree with F.A. that there is no way Trout won his fight with Alvarez . if i was forced to pick a winner right now,i would say Floyd out boxes Alvarez. i will hold off a little bit on my prediction for a while.Posted June 1, 2013 6:03 am
LMAO @ deluded pactards still trying to hype up there fallen hero who got raped & KTFO @ KTFO & Obliterated by JMM it makes me laugh.
if mayweather wins, what then? will erislandy lara have to weigh 152lbs to challenge for the light middle weight title because the champion does not consider himself big enough to fight the contenders in the division in which he’s champion? catchweights are a farce when titles are on the linePosted June 1, 2013 5:20 am
Tomato Can, please don’t even bring Canelo into the same conversation as the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Canelo has no chance vs Mayweather, and Rios has a chance vs Pacquiao because both guys come to fight. Rios is a true warrior and has fought wars. Canelo has fought smaller, older, one dimensional bums except for Trout, in which he barely won. I hope you don’t actually think Canelo has fought a list of quality opposition. He has fought D level fighters. And as far as who would give Manny a tougher fight,. I would say Rios because he’s a proven warrior that takes a punch and gives a punch. Unlike Canelo that has been fed a bunch of easy, make me look good puppets. I recall Canelo was wobbled and ready to go in his fight vs Jose Cotto. And you think he’s that good? Hmmm…Sorry to tell you, but Manny would crush him.Posted June 1, 2013 4:01 am
LOL Chicago GUy is cross dressing …..Posted June 1, 2013 3:52 am
YOU obviously don’t appreciate Boxing SKILLS. SO go read a comic book!!Posted June 1, 2013 3:46 am
” Trout tried to stick and move — and got a spear chucked through him — sending him down, hurting him, and forcing him out of his game plan because of his points deficit.” – Nope. You may need to take a MEMORY class….Trout came OUT on the offensive while Canelo was actually the mover in the Fight shocking everyone in the Stadium because they expected Canelo to have to chase Trout but it was the other way around… That’s what all the fuss was about. Canelo turned the tables on Trout and Trout was the aggressor while Canelo was the mover. Canelo showed that he was able to adjust vs a guy who has the height advantage and the reach advantage. He was sticking and moving and he WON showing that the strategy that I stated is CORRECT…Wipe off your EYEGLASSES. ..Canelo ended the Fight RUNNING but no fans were here to berate him for that because his last name wasn’t Mayweather. …instead they blamed the open scoring as IF Floyd doesn’t know he’s UP 7 rounds in the 9th TOO.Posted June 1, 2013 3:24 am
hey Q perfect predictions as normalPosted June 1, 2013 3:01 am
Publicenemyisdumb: no, Floyd will be a puffed up Super. Lightweight against a Middleweight, get yo bias ass offline. You’re drunk, go.Posted June 1, 2013 2:52 am
TARK: You’re right, Trout’s issue was that he could not find his range. Canelo is a good counter puncher… he was quicker than Trout and Trout kept circling and dipping to his left, it was weird… and Trout couldn’t commit like he wanted, even when Canelo faded, because Canelo was waiting so much for the one punch that right hand, that Trout was circling towards, that Canelo could gas and still land a nice big shot. Floyd is better, but Trout is bigger… but Canelo has to burn off 2 extra pounds (but the best part is that Floyd does NOT have to bulk up 2 more pounds). Floyd is going to be fighting an orthodox guy again, and I think even at his old age, he can pull it off… I think with his defense (which is set for orthodox fighters) and his dad, he could have a chance to have a career night, just with the circumstances. He’s going to have to move a lot and offset Canelo, and jab him a lot and to the body… Floyd uses his jab a lot against counter puncher types. Canelo is really a counter puncher… he’ll have to change up his style…. it’s interesting.Posted June 1, 2013 2:29 am
Floyd will only win if the judges and Ref are paid off this isn’t a puffed up featherweight folksPosted June 1, 2013 2:18 am
Yeah… Something like Trout.. Trout tried to stick and move — and got a spear chucked through him — sending him down, hurting him, and forcing him out of his game plan because of his points deficit. He had to go after Canelo. The slick southpaw who flummoxed Cotto so completely couldn’t find the range on the Cinnamon Kid. The poor guy…try as he did, but anemic Austin was just too far behind on the cards … with no ability to go for the closer. He knew he was done. No joy on his face at the end.
Gee… Who else would have problems trying to get a super welter out of there?Posted June 1, 2013 1:59 am
Floyd will Fight just like he DID vs. Guerrero. He will STAY on his bicycle and use TIMELY counters also knows as pot shots. He’s going to leave his combinations by the way side for this Fight and punch one punch at a time like Boxtra told Rigo to DO vs. Donaire…..When you face a Bigger guy don’t try to re invent the WHEEL….The blueprint has been MADE. STICK and MOVE. STICK and MOVE.Posted June 1, 2013 1:10 am
Simple Fight to predict. Floyd comes out analyzing Canelo’s speed, firing his jab, and begins to time his counters…. Canelo is coming out with the jab and is trying to follow UP with a big shot or run OFF some combinations. Floyd will be no where to be FOUND. He’s TOO quick on his FEET for Canelo. And he usually has a 6th sense that tells him what punch is coming. The Bigger Canelo comes IN the WORSE the LOSS will BE for him. He’d be SMART to come IN at 154 on Fight night. Floyd will be 148 on Fight night. NO way a 175 pound man can catch him. He can beat Wladimir Klitschko right NOW because Wlad doesn’t have the hand SPEED or foot SPEED. Neither DOES Canelo. He DOES have excellent timing and Defense cracking combinations. IF he can some how corner Floyd for 20 or 30 seconds he could knock Floyd down. IF he can somehow hurt him BAD enough where he can no longer RUN then he’d WIN that by stoppage….IF “IF” was a FIFTH I’d be DRUNK though.Posted June 1, 2013 1:03 am
Canelo reminds me of a cyborg boxer. not slick, but he can deliver.Posted June 1, 2013 1:01 am
Floyd’s gonna try to use footwork and sparse pot-shot straight rights and the odd left hook to avoid El Cinnamon… But it may not be enough this fight. In the fight with Canelo, Austin Trout threw twice as many shots as Floyd does, and is not afraid to get hit… And yet he still lost… Bottom line… It is about time he took a real risk, but ole Floyd just may have screwed himself this time.Posted June 1, 2013 1:00 am
Yeah I don’t think Canel is too slick neither. He showed head movement but it wasn’t like he was moving around the ring showing head movement. He was standing in one place and bobbing back and forth. And like a few other people, I thought Trout wonPosted June 1, 2013 12:52 am
Canelo will lose this one like many others Floyd will find a way to win… Floyd can pay the ref, the judges or Canelo to take the lose…I seen it all and you bet Floyd will win again and again.Posted June 1, 2013 12:42 am
Canelo slick? He came in 172 against a slick fighter in trout. Canel lost that fight Trout was robbed. Only advantage Canelo can think of is more weight and try to lean on PBF. He should have been allowed to come in at 172 vs trout pathetic.Posted June 1, 2013 12:27 am
Not to mention just 2 years ago he made 150 to fight Mathew Hatton for that bogus WBC titlePosted June 1, 2013 12:27 am
Canelo is a young genius in that Ring. He’s not facing another young genius though. He’s facing a VET. Whatever he TRIES Floyd will have the answer FOR. By the time that he figures Floyd out he’ll need a knockout. And Floyd’s Dad will TELL him that Canelo needs a knockout. SO Floyd will skate away with the SURGICAL UD…..Canelo MAY catch UP to him but it will be TOO late and everyone will say MAN IF he just had 15 rounds he would have beat him like they SAID when Ward beat Froch.Posted June 1, 2013 12:25 am
CORRECTION…..He’s a SLY Fox….Posted June 1, 2013 12:20 am
Floyd WINS by Pot shotting CLINIC by the way.Posted June 1, 2013 12:20 am
Maybe he DOES come IN at 160. He a SLY Fox. He FOOLED everyone into thinking that he couldn’t go any LOWER than 154 when he just went under 154 vs. Trout and WON. He can probably make 152 with EASE and that’s why HE offered it. Floyd dropped 3 pounds to face Hatton and still WON by stoppage and he was OLDER than Alvarez IS now. SO Canelo will be able to DO it with NO problem…..but all of that talk is for the AMATEURS anyway. The talk should be about SKILLS. Not SIZE….unless Canelo comes into the Fight more than 20 lbs Bigger than Mayweather…..THEN the SIZE becomes the subject.Posted June 1, 2013 12:19 am
Thank you for the kind words Brother Gonzo, I am humbled. I take great satisfaction in playing a role, small though it may be, in the promotion of ornithological education with regards to the vulture family.
I was only recently noting to an acquaintance – one born via the usual avenue and without the involvement of dragon – that the viciously slanderous manner in which the vulture is depicted in the modern media is of great concern to me, and that I hoped an Attenboruoghesque champion, possessed of fearsome verbal marksmanship would come forth to rectify the situation.
I thought that my hope would be in vain, but I am joyous to discover that such a champion exists.Posted June 1, 2013 12:18 am
Fight is already signed so there is no backing out unless an injury. And yes I am saying the reason why some fights did not get made is because of Floyd being contracted to HBO meaning he could only fight on HBO and other fighters like Casamayor, Freitas and Kostya where contracted to fight on Showtime. That is why now Floyd will not be able to fight someone who is now contracted to HBO because he is now contracted to Showtime. That is the truth. But go ahead and try to twist history like you always try to do to attempt to make your ridiculous accusations or theories true.Posted June 1, 2013 12:10 am
Common logic dictates that the speculation would be that Saulie comes in to fight night at 160 or under. Just to be quick and slick. Why would he blow up to 172 and be a slow pig for slaughter. C’Mon Man think about it.Posted June 1, 2013 12:02 am
Where di d Floyd get that dumb ass hat he is wearing???? Paulie Malignaggie ??Posted June 1, 2013 12:00 am
Little Red ain’t gonna be 172 at fight night……………guaranteed !!!Posted May 31, 2013 11:59 pm
Adrian……Adrian !! How is Floydie going to get out of it??Posted May 31, 2013 11:56 pm
Tacheon – the question is what weight they will have to be at a weigh in that’s more pathetic if they go below 154 ..why?Posted May 31, 2013 11:55 pm
RolandoMota PBF was 2 pounds over weight for JMM. Fight night 150 JMM was almost 146 so 4 pound difference. PBF will be 150 fight night while Canelo will be 172 on fight night pathetic.Posted May 31, 2013 11:53 pm
Peej- listen I am 100 % sure mayweather will not fight Canelo !
Peej what???? What are you saying dude ? So the the reason mayweather didn’t fight “back I a day” some quality opponents was because they were signed for showtime? LolPosted May 31, 2013 11:47 pm
Yeah no matter who Floyd fights people will always say well he is ducking this person or he is only fighting him because he knows he can win. Whats funny is before he signed to fight Hatton everybody was saying he was scared of Hatton and Hatton would win because of his mauling style. Once the fight was signed they said well he is only fighting him because he knows he will win and he should be fighting someone else. Always an excuse. And then people say he ducked folks back in the day but fail to realize that he was contracted to HBO and the so called fighters he ducked where contracted to Showtime.Posted May 31, 2013 11:39 pm
44-0 Have tried and failed
Flolyd actually isn’t over paid. People like Chad Dawson and Berto are folks that are over paid. They can’t fill an arena but yet get paid millions. Floyd sells tickets and sells large amounts of PPVs where the real money is made.Posted May 31, 2013 11:35 pm
Vitaly wrote “He is anything but stupid, always knowing exactly what he is doing and why he is doing it.”then in the off article he writes”there isn’t an opponent on this plant that will satisfy the Mayweather Jr. critics. At least it seems that way.”
Saying Canelo has “extremely limited ring experience” is extremely inaccurate. He has over 40 professional fights and has been in the ring with world champions. He is not limited at all. Have you watched him fight? He does it all very well. IMO Mayweather will win but will be troubled by Canelo’s strong and very polished combinations. Canelo also has a very good 1-2 punch and he is smarter and more composed than any other Mayweather opponent I can think of. Mayweather made an excellent decision in choosing to fight Canelo NOW, instead of waiting. If he had waited longer Mayweather would only be older and Canelo more experienced and skilled.Posted May 31, 2013 11:35 pm
Wald is king, hmmm that’s exactly what Bears would say. I guess there’s lots of you heavy weight fans out there.Posted May 31, 2013 11:30 pm
We’ll find out what happens to Canelo during the fight. What you guys are missing is no matter who Mayweather fights there will be some reason to doubt the opponent. It’s happens everytime, and it’ll keep happening until he’s defeated or retires. And even then fans will be comparing him to future greats. There are a lot of good fighters out there (in his size range) deserving of a Mayweather fight. Don’t try to kill the fights because you don’t think any of them have a chance. By doing so, your selling a lot of fighters short.Posted May 31, 2013 11:17 pm
Alvarez didnt beat trout . im sorry yall ,but alvarez is a threat for mayweather , but the problem is what will alvarez do when he is getting hit at will.Posted May 31, 2013 11:11 pm
Hecdog, so who would you give the better chance to beat Pacquiao, Brandon Rios or Saul Alvarez? Be truthful…. I rest my case.Posted May 31, 2013 10:57 pm
Personally Mayweather hasn’t shown me anything to make me think he should be fighting at 154. He has brittle hands. The laws of physics tell me that when brittle hands land on larger targets they just may break. I think Mayweather tops out at 147 so you fans that want to see him get beat should be happy he’s facing a tank in Canelo. There should be no complaints. Canelo’s no war torn fighter trying to earn a payday at a supposed catch weight, he’s a fresh young, resileant fighter. This is a fight, where I might be temped to take the odd’s, even if I don’t see him winning. I’ll be worked up for this fight, come fight night.Posted May 31, 2013 10:54 pm
Canelo will be a good test for Mayweather, he’s younger, stronger, bigger, and he just might be hungrier. It’s not his fault he’s not a boxing genius yet. This fight will be a great learning experience for him win or lose. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him land something on Mayweather and hurt him, or even worse. He could pull it off, I doubt that’ll happen, but his size and the fact that he’s does have some skills should leave all fans interested in this fight. Some of you fans put Mayweather on too high of a pedestal, and yet at the same time you say he hasn’t beat anyone. That makes no sense at all. What we have here is a very experience great little fighter, against a bigger fighter with a lot of upside. This is the ingredients for a good fight in my opinion.Posted May 31, 2013 10:45 pm
Canelo should weigh in at 154 versus 152, just like Mayweather failed to make catch weight against Marquez. Give Mayweather a taste of his own medicine. Just one persons opinion.Posted May 31, 2013 10:40 pm
there called SKILLS (spin your junk ) and to appreciate them you need an attention span of some ilk for that …..Posted May 31, 2013 10:38 pm
Hecdog, Canelo has faced better opposition than Brandon Rios, yet I don’t see you on you’re hero Pacquiao’s one or two threads on ESB, complaining about it? What gives? Please stick to the Manny praising, and leave the rest of boxing to the fans of the sport, or start taking some boxing classes and learn something about the sport.Posted May 31, 2013 10:37 pm
spin the kinks
Another boring 12 Round UD for Mayweather.Posted May 31, 2013 10:35 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Thank you brother Mongrel
I was actually going to write an introductory piece about these wonderfully majestic yet sadly maligned winged creatures, but I decided against it as I thought they element of surprise might give my promotion of vulture awareness a little extra kick.
And just so you all know, Mongrel deserves much of the credit for helping spread and bring vulture awareness to ESB as it was his words that lit the flame that ignited the spark within me, so a round of applause for Brother Mongrel please.
There will be another juicy Gonzo vulture fact for you to sink your teeth in tomorrow, perhaps even a little sooner than that if the mood takes me, although I’m not going to make any promises about that and run the risk of upsetting you all if it slips one’s mind.Posted May 31, 2013 10:34 pm
CJ why is it you want May to fight people 20 to 30 pounds heavier than he is? If you a 147 pound champing coming in at 150 is fine 3 pounds over. If your fight at 152 and you come in at 172 that is called cheating no different than taking Peds. I see this seems to be fine with you so long as PBF is fighting the bigger guy. Canelo will be 172 on fight night if PBF came in at 202 you guys would scream murder and say the fight should be called off.Posted May 31, 2013 10:28 pm
So Tark before facing Austin who was Sauls biggest test ?? Mosley who about Matthew Hatton or Lovemore Ndou. Out of all of Canelos fights,when was his first outing against a fighter from the 154 division ?Posted May 31, 2013 10:24 pm
He’ll stay away from Sergio for sure and GennadyPosted May 31, 2013 10:16 pm
Another boring 12 Round UD for Mayweather. 20×20 track meet.Posted May 31, 2013 10:14 pm
Anyone walking in at 172 pounds on fight night is threat. Canelo can’t win unless he is a light heavy weight on fight night. Boxing has become some what of a joke should not even have a weight division.Posted May 31, 2013 10:12 pm
Shaposhnikov writes.., “Essentially Mayweather Jr. is facing a young untested fighter with extremely limited ring experience.”
WOW … Let me get this straight… Canelo has been fighting pro since 2005. Later this year he will begin his 9th year as a professional boxer. He has 7 World Championship fights under his belt and just unified his world title by beating undefeated Austin Trout. He’s considered the toughest possible opponent for the world’s best professional boxer. His professional ring record is 42-0-1 well into his 8th year in the pro ranks … But he’s an untested fighter … with extremely limited experience. Not that he simply has limited experience. He has EXTREMELY limited experience. Gee whiz…that’s too bad.
If Alvarez beats Floyd—who’s gonna test his skills? … Hmmm…Posted May 31, 2013 10:00 pm
Floyd is overpaid. He’s a great fighter, but boxing is suffering because of the desparity in paydays from the elite to the unlucky titleholder or contender who picked up some loses along the way. Floyd should get paid more, but when there’s nothing left for other fighters on his cards or in the spotlight , incentives diminish and boxing suffers. If Floyd lost a SD to Castillo, he’d be the exact same fighter but making 50% less. That’s the truth.Posted May 31, 2013 9:43 pm
Anyone who thinks Lieweather climbs into the ring weighing under 160 probably believes Broner”s can of Sprite was empty.
Must think we is so dumb dumb.Posted May 31, 2013 9:31 pm
Rarely do I read the articles. I mainly only postPosted May 31, 2013 8:43 pm
Yeah Canelo didn’t out work him at all. He showed stamina issues and was a little amateurish at times with his wild lunging punches. It was a close fight though. Not a run a way by no meansPosted May 31, 2013 8:42 pm
I don’t think this is an easy fight for Mayweather — again I think the key is the weight.
If Alvarez comes in light and fast, it might be a one of the greatest fights in the past decade.
If Alvarez comes in heavy and slow, then some of you guys are right and this is a sleeper with Floyd popping and running.
As fight fans, I don’t think we are rooting for that.
We want a great fight.Posted May 31, 2013 8:34 pm
Canelo barely beat Trout, yes barely. And the rest of the guys he’s beaten are who exactly? Hilton, Josesito Lopez, Jose Cotto, Senior Citizen Mosely. Can someone please tell me who this guy has beat to make such a big deal of him. This fight is sold on a red headed, light skinned freckled face kid that doesn’t quite fit the physical looks of a Mexican. He has been fed doughnuts fighters to build his record. Yes he’s a big strong kid that has some skills, but the reality is that he is going to take a boxing lesson for 12 rounds. Smart boxing fans know this, and the rest are wishful thinkers that are fooling themselves into thinking Canelo is some superman type fighter. Trust me, Al Haymon knew exactly what he was doing. Mexican Holiday against a guy that is an illusion of a great fighter that brings a lot of fans that will pay big money to see him fight. Floyd didn’t wait to sign this fight because he knows what’s in front of him. This will be an easy UD or stoppage before 12 rounds. Floyd just happens to have avoided all his real challenges, and had luck fighting old men or young inexperienced boxers in his era. Too bad he ran from the Legendary Manny Pacquiao, Shane Mosely in his prime, Kostyzu in his prime. This is an easy fight for Floyd unless he gets old over night or the ring is 10 x 10 ft. The big media hype is going to fool lots of people except the smart ones.Posted May 31, 2013 8:28 pm
I often feel slightly dumber for having read ESB articles, so I am glad we have some Gonzolicious Vulture facts to lend the conversation an educational bent.Posted May 31, 2013 8:27 pm
Fight Aficionado: He out athletic-ed Trout, but it wasn’t a run away and he didn’t outwork anybody as he gassed half through the bout.Posted May 31, 2013 8:19 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Don’t worry folks there’s plenty more to comePosted May 31, 2013 8:18 pm
Alvarez beat Trout but it was closer than the scorecards. Alvarez landed the harder sharper punches overall and he scored a knockdown. Alvarez beat Trout and he showed improvement in his boxing skills.
The problem is that Alvarez was flinging shots, flayling, missing, and he was also gassed for good parts of the fight.
This would not be good against Mayweather. And given that Mayweather has better faster foot movement than Trout, I think there will be more flayling and missing by Alvarez.
The only chance I give to Alvarez actually is if Alvarez comes in light. If Alvarez comes in at 148-150 and rehydrates to 158-160 — instead of coming in at 152 or more and rehydrating up to 168-170 or so — then I think Alvarez will faster, quicker, and catch Mayweather with something. Given that he is heavy-handed, all Alvarez has to do is connect.
If Alvarez rehydrates to 170 — he will never catch Mayweather. No way. He will be too slow, too heavy footed.Posted May 31, 2013 8:17 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Gonzo’s Vulture fact of the day
There are 23 vulture species in the world, and at least one type of vulture is found on every continent except Australia and Antarctica. These are relatively adaptable birds found in a range of habitats, including suburban regions, but even so, 14 species are considered either threatened or endangered.Posted May 31, 2013 8:17 pm
LOL at the Canelo haters claiming he didn’t beat Trout. Get off the crack. Anyone with a semblance of objectivity saw Canelo outbox, outslug, and outwork Trout, who went into his usual slumber. That Cotto win was an anomaly where Trout brought his A game once he realized Cotto was a shell and didn’t represent danger. He feared Canelo enough to not let his hands go, so he got outhustled. Obv.Posted May 31, 2013 7:50 pm
It’s been less than 48 hours but I’m already sick of the repeated Floyd stories that offer little new info. And the same tiresome arguments will resume. So in a nutshell: We’ve got a very good fight, I’ll buy the PPV, won’t predict a result until after the weigh in, and no the catch weight is not a big deal nor is how much weight Canelo gains afterwards.Posted May 31, 2013 7:45 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Canelo didn’t win a round against Trout on my card when I watched it live. However, when I re-watched it again the next morning I only awarded Trout a share of one of the rounds, although I had it a draw when I watched it again recently.Posted May 31, 2013 7:38 pm
Age doesn’t matter if you have Floyd style defence similar to B Hop. All Floyd has to do with this one is do a peekaboo style of fighting. Not only he wins the fight he will put a lot of people to sleep! Boring style as always will be showcase here by Floyd! Styles makes fight and Floyd’s style never change!Posted May 31, 2013 7:21 pm
Q: Floyd has brittle hands so prefers to use Grant and an 8 oz Grant is best for him.Posted May 31, 2013 6:49 pm
I thought the same thing. But it was close enough to go either wayPosted May 31, 2013 6:45 pm
In all honesty I thought Canelo lost to Trout. But that’s Texas for you. Now let’s get this thing cracking.Posted May 31, 2013 6:39 pm
I would think that FMJ would want 8oz gloves, but I’m not sure. He wanted them against ODH and Cotto…. maybe under 154 they can use them. The heavier 10oz gloves in combo with him moving up well past a natural weight, slows him down a bit, and he’s not worried about his opponents gloves, but optimizing HIS gifts. He wants to be able to cut up his opponent as much as possible, and all that. He’s not a naturally big guy, so his acclimation to 10oz gloves isn’t the same as a strong Jr.MW and one who could fight at Middleweight. Meanwhile, Canelo’s going to have a heck of a fight on his hands me thinks. Floyd is actually excited again, and he’s fighting a counter puncher… and they don’t do well against him. Canelo’s thing is being big and relatively athletic, but he doesn’t cut off a ring terribly well, being more of a flat footed counter puncher and all… yeah, this will be very interesting. Floyd says he can’t wait, and neither can I. Everyone was saying that FMJ wouldn’t in a million years take the bout… well, he took it… and it seems that the reality of who Floyd Mayweather Jr. is sinking in after it becomes a reality bout… the prospect of Canelo actually being across the ring from this man, and what he’d have to be able to do to beat this guy…. and people I think are now fading away from the “Floyd will get stopped” thing, because FMJ is just that good.Posted May 31, 2013 6:36 pm
I say throw in Garcia vs Matthyse on the undecard and we have a potential 2.5 M blockbuster.Posted May 31, 2013 6:34 pm
Well since nobody know the ring size yet it’s hard to say that. But 10 oz gloves are normal for jr middle. They use 8 oz welter and downPosted May 31, 2013 6:23 pm
10oz gloves are used above welterweight. So that is normal. And of course the ring will be a little bigger. Floyd calls the shots and he is a boxer. Floyd agreed to all terms against Oscar so everybody already new Canelo would have to agree to Floyd’s terms. And if Canelo would learn how to cut the ring off then the size of it wouldn’t matterPosted May 31, 2013 6:20 pm
PEEJ: it would be PPV worthy to me if they use a smaller ring and 8 oz gloves since its a catchweight. Otherwise the Canelo won’t have a chance to even touch Floyd w/ that defense and this ring size.Posted May 31, 2013 6:18 pm
Q: I get that part but people are not watching the fine print. Yes there is no rehydration limit and all that weight stuff but what is the size of the Ring that was agreed upon? 20 x 20 …. what gloves are they using?…. 10 oz…. it will be like an elephant chasing a gazelle in a safari… there won’t be a fight … you won’t see Canelo’s best in these circumstancesPosted May 31, 2013 6:16 pm
So basically there is nobody Floyd can fight that is PPV worthy then?Posted May 31, 2013 6:15 pm
bobby da boxer
No, Golden Boy just wants us to think that everyone is going wild, especially after the low veiwer numbers pulled by mayweather’s last fight.Posted May 31, 2013 6:12 pm
Boxe0: I think Canelo has a chance to make it interesting with his slightly above average talent and much larger build than FMJ… stylistically and skill-wise, this could very well be something like Sergio Martinez Vs. JCC Jr. IMO. Although JCC Jr was scared that whole fight to get knocked out… I don’t think Canelo will be fearing for 11.8 rounds that he may get hurt and stopped for opening up.Posted May 31, 2013 6:03 pm
Floyd is very smart to have taken this fight before Canelo went on to lose to Lara or something… which was very possible. He should hope Mayweather gets old over night. I’m extremely excited to see how Floyd’s pure skills manages against a man who came into a bout above Super Middleweight his last bout. That’s the major thing to see in this bout. I’d say Lucas Matthysse is more dangerous P4P, but Canelo is good.Posted May 31, 2013 6:00 pm
Canelo isn’t so good coming forward…. he did his best against Trout by pressing his speed and strength advantage … he would walk forward and stop short, then try to catch Trout by throwing when Trout came in… Canelo is a counter puncher…. and he’s clearly lesser when coming forward, it’s clear. His best bet is being able to out counter FMJ. He likes to feint in and get you coming to him… he’s going to either have to really rush Floyd and out strength and power him, or he’ll be asked to out counter FMJ. Floyd has less of a tell on his shots than Canelo…. so Canelo will MOST LIKELY have lots of problems stylistically throwing to catch FMJ walking in…… I’ll have to go watch again how Canelo fought smaller guys…. because this style will get him beat baring a punchers chance thing.Posted May 31, 2013 5:51 pm
Don’t tell me about Canelo’s “defense” …he went completely inactive for much of many of those rounds.. I mean.. he was just sitting and not punching much of those rounds. Trout also rolls down like a reverse shoulder roll, which should line him up to rights a lot, there were many instances when Trout still got out of the way of those rights completely by dipping that way…. many things to take into account… Canelo landed some good rights at times, but he only hurt Trout once. Canelo didn’t show any great defense, it was tacky, he was rolling around heavy footed while out of range, then at times he’d throw when Trout got bored. I’m sorry, but if Canelo can’t hurt Floyd…. this is going to be a mismatch for FMJ.Posted May 31, 2013 5:41 pm
I’m watching Canelo-Trout and honestly, I can see Floyd maybe adding a shock to this bout himself with…. a stoppage, as crazy as it sounds. Trout was flicking with shots and showed minimal power, Floyd hurt Cotto more in their bout than Trout ever could, and Trout still was walking into Canelo at points (although he was in his 170′s along with Canelo). Canelo gassed after 5 rounds, and his punches were markedly slower, no matter what any Canelo fans have to say, that’s just factual information (even with the KD in a subsequent round) Canelo is more of a counter puncher than anything, and he’s not that aggressive although he’ll walk forward…. Canelo had most of his success against Trout with his right hand and some jabs, but that’s normal against a southpaw, especially when you’re not worried about his power, just throw down the shoot hard and see what happens, and that’s what Canelo did. Trout isn’t as fast as FMJ, and man, I’m tempted to say that FMJ is a better puncher at 154 than Trout……… Canelo was very phased by body punches, and when he missed at times he missed really really amateurishly…. uhm…. if Canelo’s shear massive size doesn’t do it for him against FMJ, he’s gonna be looking about like Guerrero Vs. Mayweather II. That’s my opinion.Posted May 31, 2013 5:31 pm
It don’t matter, canelo is only 22 and will still be undefeated win or lose come September, according to mayweather if your drained your record is not on the linePosted May 31, 2013 5:30 pm
This guy is so slow. PBF puts its on cruise control for a mid to late round stoppage. I can see Canelo quittin on his stool.Posted May 31, 2013 5:14 pm
I mostly enjoy when all of these competitors and critics and writers always say that this opponent (Canelo)like the rest ( IS JUST AS FAST OR MAYBE FASTER THAN FLOYD) I just start laughing when the fight starts and they don’t see Mayweather’s Jabs, hooks, and right hand leads coming. Some of these boxers gotta being saying ( did he just hit me? and then hit me again?). And then you have the dumb a%ss pappi of Gueroro cyring about toe to toe. Well when they went toe to toe your son couldn’t see sh%t coming so he stopped boxing toe to toe he could’nt let his hands go because he got hit as he was thinking about trowing. The same thing gonna happen to Canelo.
“Floyd has finally made a brave move by picking someone who poses a true threat to him.” – A testament to Floyd’s legend at the end of the day. A “true threat to him” is a 23 year old lineal champion at a weight 4 divisions above where he first campaigned, who also came into his last bout 172 pounds (as opposed to the 36 year olds 146 pounds on fight night)… this for a super elite fighter is stupid, this for an ATG of Mayweather’s stature is a “true *threat* to him.” Carry on.Posted May 31, 2013 4:51 pm
Mayweather will make this look easy like the last. Bad facial damage for Alvarez, he will be exposed hitting air. Young, dumb and full of c–. Floyd is a lot stronger physically than most think. Mentally it is a no contest. Alvarez gasses out early mentally and physically mid rounds……..Posted May 31, 2013 4:37 pm
I still think Canelo needs at least two more fights against top jr. middleweight contenders–like Angulo and Lara– before facing Mayweather. But that’s all wishful thinking now. Floyd will beat Saul Alvarez. Just how badly remains to be seen.Posted May 31, 2013 4:34 pm
canelo is a bumPosted May 31, 2013 4:00 pm
oh, nevermind… Canelo is ranked 10th P4P according to that list (BS when that list doesn’t include Guillermo Ringondeaux who is a shoe in, but not a GB fighter) ….anyway, M. Garcia will likely have earned a space on that list, so they’ll have to either move Canelo up before he fights Floyd, or kick him out to put M. Garcia in the list…. or they’ll just shut him out like they’ve done Rigo.Posted May 31, 2013 3:53 pm
Meanwhile if he beats Canelo in this bout, they’ll say he should then fight GGG and Sergio Martinez… but he’d have proven his point IMO, and could go fight the winner of Bradley-JMM (if it’s Bradley, since JMM doesn’t want a rematch) or the winner of Mathyssee-Garcia. This is a big icing bout, and then he has other P4Pers to face (I’ll point out that at least according to Ring Magazine, this is Floyd’s second straight P4P rated opponent, let alone going for the Lineal title in a 5th division).. that would mean he beat the lineal champions from all five of his 5 divisions. He’s building a serious case for top 1-3 ATG easily (with some already calling him the best.)Posted May 31, 2013 3:51 pm
No doubt in my mind this is the biggest fight out there for Floyd and the ones the fans really want to see.Posted May 31, 2013 3:48 pm
Apologies, I misread you: you were talking about plant OPPONENTS rather than critics.
Well, I’m a critic of Mayweather, and you’re right: I won’t be satisfied if he just fights aphids.Posted May 31, 2013 3:47 pm
Boxer: You’re actually underestimating the situation, Floyd’s a natural 140 fight who acclimated to 147, after spending a large percentage of his career as a Super Featherweight, he’s a boxer… and he’s not fighting a big welterweight… he’s fighting a guy who came into his last bout 172 pounds who is the ring champion of the division (after he ‘Mayweather’ came into his last bout 146 pounds), Floyd is doing something historic really. People write it off as a “Floyd’s still the favorite” or as a “he’s finally fighting a strong guy” and that’s bs… he’s fought plenty strong guys, this is “strong” on FMJ standards, which is equal to a guy who could easily be fighting at Middleweight today.Posted May 31, 2013 3:46 pm
“Whether Saul Alvarez, Miguel Cotto or anyone else, there isn’t an opponent on this plant that will satisfy the Mayweather Jr. critics.”
Can’t argue with that. Those plant people are so hard to please!
As for me, I’d be satisfied when he defeats Wladimir Klitschko.Posted May 31, 2013 3:42 pm
Are u kidding me. Anybody with a real boxing eye saw Canelo lose to Trout. Strong maybe, but thats it, how is it going to benefit him if he cant hit his target. This fight will be boring, Canelo was tired by the 3rd rd against Trout. He will be mentally tired and physically tired by the 3rd against Floyd. Go back and check the fights, Floyd fought this blk fight dont remember the name right off early in his career, dude was like 6 ft tall. Floyd fought and boxed this boy beatifully. Canelo is garbage, yes i said it GARBAGE. He gases, he only like fighters that is smaller than him. FLOYD is the smartest boxer I have ever seen, i put money against him once, that was against corrales bcuz i thought he was too big too strong. BELIEVE ME DIS AINT WHAT CANELO WANTS.Posted May 31, 2013 3:34 pm
Of course I give Floyd a small edge in this fight I mean it’s Floyd, but see he’s facing something he’s never faced a strong guy that’s also smart himself, and knows how to close distance, will he have Floyd against the ropes all night, of course not!!!, but that’s my point it won’t take much times, another thing is Canelo isn’t going for Floyd’s head all night I guarantee like other fighters do, he’s going to try to pound Floyd’s arms, body everything, let me just say it again this is no stroll in the park for money!Posted May 31, 2013 3:22 pm