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PFG

Canelo made Trout look silly at times. Whether you think he didn’t work enough for the win or not, comparing Canelo to Abraham is fallacy of the highest order.

Posted June 8, 2013 6:32 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Of course you did, AFTER THE FACT…

Posted June 6, 2013 11:48 pm 


TARK

I knew Floyd would beat Judah… I just expected him to dominate every round and stop him.. Zab surprised Floyd early, like Mosley did.. Zab Floored Floyd which the replay clearly picked up.

As far as Floyd being the most consistent boxer in Fistic History… He’s close, but how about Vitali Klitschko??? Vitali has never been knocked down… He’s never been behind on points… He’s never even been rocked by a punch… Pretty consistent for a 41-year-old. He lost a couple times but due to injuries but not by being out-boxed or out-pointed by anyone.

Posted June 6, 2013 11:30 pm 


te tumbo

I just want Cinnamon man to rape me again…

Posted June 5, 2013 3:54 pm 


school

Canelo vs floyd , canelo wins!

Posted June 5, 2013 2:36 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Well whatdya know. Hissydalgo has no points to make about Boxing. Who’d of thunk it???

Posted June 5, 2013 11:29 am 


Hidalgo

“Every guy isn’t the same guy every fight.” Well, waddya know. Earth has been infested by clones.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:10 pm 


Hidalgo

“faced.”

Posted June 4, 2013 11:09 pm 


Hidalgo

“.The Judah that faced Floyd would beat Baldomir and the Cotto that faced Floyd would beat Trout.” What?? Really? Hmmmm. I guess the Baldomir that faces Mayweather would beat Mayweather. Yeah. Makes sense to me.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:08 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

TARK does not understand that Floyd is the most consistent Fighter in the ENTIRE History of Boxing and even HIS performance fluctuates. Every guy isn’t the SAME guy every Fight. Most guys bring their BEST vs. Floyd but STILL end UP befuddled….The Judah that faced Floyd would beat Baldomir and the Cotto that faced Floyd would beat Trout. Anyone with a SHARP eye could see that Cotto was in better shape for Mayweather than he was vs. Trout. He underestimated Trout.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:47 pm 


SREDMOND

Judah was NOT beating Floyd up that’s utterly ridiculous!! Mayweathers skills are so epic that a single clear shot is treated like a barrage… Floyd beat Zabs ass and had him going “Victor Ortiz” before Ortiz existed…Mosley had Floud WAYYYYY more hurt and what’s the relevance? Floyd dusted Judah and Zabs WAYYYYY faster than Canelo and he’s left handed so what’s the correlation? The truth is that NONE of Floyd’s prior opponents offer Canelo a SINGLE tactical flaw that he has the talent to exploit… He has a punchers chance and nothing more…

Posted June 4, 2013 5:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark says “how can a guy like Judah lose to Baldomir” the same way that Wlad lost to a scrub like Ross Purrity, and how did he get splatted by a C level fighter like Sanders? At least Judah did NOT get stopped by Baldomir so FMJ taking Baldys belt and whipping Judah badly are hardly poor reflections on Mayweather..

Posted June 4, 2013 5:03 pm 


Happyboy

The objective is to win Zab Judah lost, end of story and so did Pac vs Marquez who cares if they were ahead.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:07 pm 


PEEJ

Ok that’s fine. But winning 2 or 3 rounds is not winning a fight. Floyd dominated from the 5th round on so it doesn’t matter. Floyd can just make those adjustments and Judah couldn’t. Everybody brings up the Judah fight like it was an accomplishment to win 2 or 3 rounds and for him to make it through the 12th for a decision.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:19 am 


TARK

With the knockdown the referee missed… That’s 2 points whatever you have… Zab was leading after 3… And he ripped Floyd pretty good with some of those shots and combos.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:17 am 


PEEJ

I have Judah only 2 of the first 4 rounds

Posted June 4, 2013 2:15 am 


TARK

Q…, I don’t agree at all that Judah wasn’t whipping Floyd’s tail for 3 rounds. and to say Judah had Tszyu and Cotto out is dead wrong. Judah landed some sharp shots, maybe 2 or 3. He was in no way getting these guys out. He would have had to follow up much better than he did.. Cotto was in danger against Corley, definitely for almost a whole round, but not against Judah.. Miguel backed Judah off with a couple body shots — one which earned him a point deduction. Whew baby that hurt … The referee was a jerk. I would have taken 2 points from Cotto.. The only thing I ever saw that was worse at this weight, was when Judah ripped Floyd low with a left hook, then smashed Floyd behind the head with a right hook … I would have DQ’d the MFer on the spot.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:02 am 


BAS BOX 1

THIS FIGHT IS ONLY 50 -50 ….IF FLOYD SMOKE SOME “CRACK ” BEFORE HE GET’S IN THE RING 1

Posted June 4, 2013 12:57 am 


Q

The only think I’m getting from this fight is a reminder of how much FMJ has declined PHYSICALLY. He’s still smart as a whip though, guy is smart, man if he was a massive puncher, there wouldn’t even be a point in fighting him, for any fighter that’s ever lived. Jaja. He’s not a big puncher, so there are some challenges throughout history.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:34 pm 


Q

Round 5 FMJ is charted as landing 60% of his power punches, and Judah at 19% with 3 out of 16… jaja. Yeah Judah is doing fantastic and kicking Mayweather’s ass. *We’re in the twilight zone*

Posted June 3, 2013 11:28 pm 


Q

seem*

Posted June 3, 2013 11:24 pm 


Q

Hahaha.. they’re egging up what Judah is doing. He’s destroying Judah to the body, and they don’t seen to notice it.. jaja… Judah is now scared to throw his left hand, now Floyd is chasing him and knocking him around. FMJ knocks Judah back three steps with a right lead, he’s still ripping his body up, and Merchant says “that’s probably the first flush shot Mayweather has landed” jajajaj… then they start commenting on Floyd’s body work FINALLY, even though he’d been pounding Judah’s body all along (I think Floyd wasn’t getting credit for his body work because he’s not known for it, but wow… he’s been ripping Judah with right hooks to the body, left hooks to the body, straight rights to the body, and HEAVY thudding shots) Judah now won’t throw his trademark right uppercut, nor left counters, because his elbow is now pinned into his side to stop the body assault, and now he can’t defend himself up top and is circling away fast. Go watch Mayweather Vs. Judah…. that’s one of Floyd’s most beautiful performances to me. You don’t see that kind of sharpshooting virtuoso body work.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:24 pm 


Q

I’m watching Judah Vs. Mayweather… Judah is doing no kicking of any ass. Floyd is so brilliant that a close round = getting his ass kicked, jaja. That round was close, I would be tempted to give it to Floyd even. Close round. More of a filling out round… Floyd’s shooting right leads to the body and left counters, while gauging Juda’s speed. Floyd is landing more in this second round. 1:58 of round two…. Floyd rips Judah to the body with a right lead and Judah lands a very pushing right hook and the pushy shot and Floyd’s momentum makes him tap the canvas, then he charges back at judah. I think Floyd won the 2nd round… he was touching Judah the whole round…. Judah lands a nice little uppercut and left hand, that completely have no effect. You can call it a close 0-2 for Judah or a 1-1… two rather close rounds. Now let’s see Judah’s last “ass kick” round… and that round was close, Floyd got hit flush with some things, and one could give that round to Judah, but it was also very flush, Floyd landed some flush right hands to the jaw, cracking stuff to the body, right hands, and set up left hooks to the liver (his body attack this fight is brilliant). You hear the boom on every body shot Floyd throws at Zab, and Floyd even jumps in with a power jab the knocks Judah backwards…. I’m not seeing Judah kicking any ass…… can someone tell me when this happens? Let’s see the 4th round, I think it’s all down hill from there for Judah. jaja. His dad is even telling him, “don’t let him come over the top, he’s stealing shots” “you gotta let your hands go” and “he can’t hurt you if you in fight mode”..he outlanded Judah that third round and clearly, it appears in each round. Roger tells floyd “what I tell you go ahead keep pressin him, keep doing what you just did.. cause he can’t fight going backwards anyway” – gody stuff from FMJ in terms of the body work, wow.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:13 pm 


Q

You guys have veeeery interesting perspectives, jajaja. But ok… it’s really interesting to see how different people interpret things. It’s somethings really almost shocking.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:35 pm 


Q

TARK: What? no no no no. 1. He was at no point “kicking Floyd’s ass” that’s a gross exaggeration and you should go watch the bout again, or those first three rounds. 2. He DID do more to Kostya and Cotto if you actually knew what you were talking about (no offense). He got Floyd off balance because Floyd was going to the body over and over, and he got Floyd a bit off balance (his speed was great back then, but it didn’t effect Floyd), however, the first round against Kostya, he completely outboxed Kostya… the power was the equalizer.. Floyd isn’t a knockout puncher and he was also moving up. And Judah almost knocked Cotto out early, had his legs noodles and Cotto hit him with a low blow and things changed. Once again Cotto is a bruiser/boxer… his game is pounding out boxers… but he did almost get stopped in the first or second round of that bout. 3. Floyd fought Zab 7 years ago, his physically abilities were much more back then to the point that he was faster than FMJ, and he was the lineal champion before flaking with Carlos Baldomir (a big guy), no way Judah THEN was less than the Judah that fought Danny Garcia, jaja. If nothing else the Judah that fought FMJ would have probably beaten the guy. You should be saying if Judah was as prepared and amped for Carlos as he was for FMJ (in his 3 rounds of something) then he wouldn’t have lost to Carlos. That’s more realistic. And yes Judah was strong back then. He packed a punch. And I haven’t seen the TD loss to Clottey but the cards were close.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:33 pm 


Q

Broner IS moving up two divisions to fight a non stationary target…. this will show us some other facets to Broner… I’m ready for it, it’s a very solid bout.. he’s young and he’ll have time for those other big bouts *Lucas/Peterson* *Garcia/Judah* were already lined when he signed to fight Paulie… he’s a big kid but just as you people say about Canelo, he makes lightweight, and he’s now moving up 2 divisions to fight a guy who has NEVER lost to a non champion… non P4P class fighter. He lost to Juan Diaz but beat him in a rematch right away… and Juan used to be quite a nice fighter.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:23 pm 


TARK

Judah was fast… He wasn’t tough, strong, courageous, durable, or very detemined in those days.. And he was a little mental.. How can a guy with his talent lose to Baldomir??? Sure he knocked Floyd down and kicked his ass for 3 rounds.. Floyd didn’t do as well against him as Tszyu, Cotto, Clottey, etc.. If Judah was as ready for Floyd as he was for Danny Garcia, I think it would have been a different fight.. Zab was in the best shape of his life for his last outing with Garcia, and didn’t flag after he was floored and hurt.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:22 pm 


Q

TARK: Very well said, Floyd is a boss for this, the aficionados of the sport, the hardcore observers, would not have blamed FMJ at all for not doing this fight, it was already explained away… Floyd fought twice at 154 and was pounds under on fight night both times, he’d already went back to his WW division where he weighed in at 146 pounds, meaning he was back where he belonged as a small WW… and he decided to say f it, I’ll go back up to fight a man that just weighed in at 172 to my 146.. the Ring champion of his division, to not just win again in my 5th division, but to UNIFY THE DIVISION AND BECOME THE LINEAL CHAMPION OF THE WEIGHTCLASS. This is a big boss move. Canelo isn’t the fighter of some of the guys you listed, ajja… but yeah… Floyd is moving up to fight the lineal champion who was 26 pounds heavier in their respective bouts last fight. If he gets passed Canelo at 154… he still has some gangster after him, jaja. Lucas Mathyssee who punches like a truck (but has been outboxed) and Broner (his little brother or whatever) ….I’m not sure Broner would pass up on those millions to fight that fight… but who knows. Broner should try to fight the winner of Paquiao/Rios ..that would be his BREAKOUT fight. His P4P star breakout fight.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:19 pm 


Q

RapidOne08: It’s not Canelo’s power that’s the problem, but his size.. and yeah he’s a strong puncher also. He has his talents. And Floyd isn’t really susceptible to uppercuts, jaja….. I don’t know if I’ve ever ever seen him hit with one, and I’ve literally seen all of his fights. Well, I think Judah may have kinda landed one, but at that point Judah’s speed was ridiculous, his one punch speed was more than Floyd’s even, Floyd just had… everything else… although Judah also had good power back then, and he’s an uppercut fighter, Floyd took his uppercut from him and starched him to the body, nothing but body shots the first 3 rounds, and GREAT clean body shots, you all should really go watch Floyd’s body attack in that fight, it was world class. The man is a Jack of all trades in the ring.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:07 pm 


Q

Public Enemy: Jaja, well obviously if he gasses in 5 rounds (being fair it was 5) then he’s…. probably going to get busted up a bit.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:03 pm 


BEARS

Pubic hair/nobodies enemy- pacman got knocked out by. Nobody in his young years. In fact how old was canelo 18? 19? 20? When he fought young cotto and beat his ass? Have you been watching canelo? I can’t remember atching any fighter exponentially improve EVERY fight like canelo. Canelo is lightning fast dummy. The trout fight showed that. So many people on the threadsselling canelo short but NOONE in theprofessional world is. Rafael, vivek, oscar, nacho, morales all calling like it is. And this list will get biggeras time goes on and we get closer and more people start factoring in the x factor which is, how is canelo gonna improve next time out given he has just looked better every fight like no other. Canelo has a very bright future. He will be a cashcow

Posted June 3, 2013 9:30 pm 


BEARS

I would like to say again. I’m taking canelo fo the upset. Canelo wins!!..

Posted June 3, 2013 9:24 pm 


Public Enemy

Canelo got rocked and put on noodle legs by Cottos C level Brother.. If that guy can connect and hurt Canelo, Floyd is going to beat him like Paquiao beat MargaCheato…

Posted June 3, 2013 9:03 pm 


RapidOne08

Canelo has a mean right uppercut combo that Floyd looks vulnerable for but im sure Floyd knows that and will neutralize it come fight..Most of Floyds have been so called dangerous punchers so im not worried about his power

Posted June 3, 2013 9:02 pm 


Public Enemy

Q – What do you think will happen to Canelo when he Gasses out in the 3rd Round against a fired up Mayweather like he did vs Trout? Helpless against the Ropes? not even defending himself?

Posted June 3, 2013 9:00 pm 


Public Enemy

Q – the rematch would be for Floyd to actually stop Cotto and show that with the proper style Cotto will not land on him like in their first fight..

Posted June 3, 2013 8:58 pm 


Q

Public Enemy: He beat Cotto about 9-3… but I guess a rematch would be ok, to win more handily… like 12-0, jaja….

Posted June 3, 2013 8:56 pm 


Q

I don’t know about this “Canelo is slow” stuff… he has good speed, good timing… he reacts quickly when he decides to punch. He doesn’t have any quality on FMJ’s level, but once again, the size difference is massive, if the size difference HONESTLY doesn’t make a difference as SOME like to say, then… jajajaj… Canelo is jodido… what on earth else is there going for him? Sure he has his talents, but P4P it’s a mismatch… with Canelo being 15+ pounds heavier, now he has a little something.

Posted June 3, 2013 8:55 pm 


Public Enemy

Word on the street is that Floyd is going into this fight to KO Canelo and make a statement.. then he’s going to rematch Cotto and have a final Mega fight with Paquiao…

Posted June 3, 2013 8:54 pm 


Q

dexter: I think it definitely COULD be a type of mismatch that develops, but this is boxing, I also expect the unexpected… that someone is gonna finally get that one shot that just takes Floyd out of it… every fight, jaja. And he’s old, he’s declining.. and he’s up against a big boy with some talent. On Floyd’s level? Not even close.. but with the size considered, there is a POSSIBILITY that it will be problematic for Floyd. The kid isn’t trash or anything. He has his talents. But yeah, a shutout would not surprise me, in a vintage FMJ (was it supposed to be that easy?) type ordeal. We’ll see in September.

Posted June 3, 2013 8:46 pm 


dexter

Q I love canelo but I speak the truth, compared to floyd canelo is a baby, floyd sees it and I think its an easy win for him no offence

Posted June 3, 2013 8:14 pm 


Q

dexter: Jaja

Posted June 3, 2013 7:36 pm 


dexter

I think floyd seen the problems trout gave canelo and taught if u think that was tuff then your f…..

Posted June 3, 2013 7:25 pm 


Uncommon

KOrnerman- Your right Canelo has great timing against C+ fighters, who were beaten long before they entered the ring. Your also right Mayweather also has great timing as well. All in all, PBF wins by decision. And while mayweather does not have KO power, he does have enough power to make you change your game plan. At least 44 other fighters did when they fought him.

Posted June 3, 2013 7:12 pm 


Havoc

Canelo is slow…it’s not going to work in Floyd’s slick defense. I got Floyd winning in Pot Shots connections. Floyd will win again in a long boring fight.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:58 pm 


KOrnerman

bad thing for Canelo is that Money has great timing and speed.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:45 pm 


KOrnerman

uncommon, Canelo has great TIMING, you forgot about that, timing is the master of speed.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:43 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“I’m just waiting for them to get a ghost whiperer to interview Selena and ask her when she gonna let me bust all over her titays…” – Me too. She’s a swallower no doubt.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:42 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Not an even money fight on paper but Canelo does have a better than 3/1 chance though if the odds were accurately reported. Should be more like +225 or a 2.25/1 underdog. I’ll probably do a value bet for entertainment. PS: My second comment in 3 days and I’m “posting too fast.” No, the software went busto too fast. Bye.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:40 pm 


hecdog

Canelo is young, and should be able to handle anything Floyd throws. I don’t know how many gears he has as far as energy and endurance. He showed good defense and boxed well vs Trout, but he cannot sit outside and try and out counter Floyd because it won’t work. Canelo has to apply pressure, and find a way to close the distance and cut off the ring, which shouldn’t be difficult since he’s been fighting forever. Can Canelo be a disciplined pressure fighter? There’s so many questions for Canelo to answer. Floyd carries no power, never fights at a busy fast pace, and has been hurt in the Mosley fight, and bruised up against Cotto. He’s up there in age as far as a fighter goes, and even though he looked good against Guerrero, Canelo is a different fighter and quite possibly be an entirely different challenge especially if he can change his style and go to the body as he is talking about. Mayweather will not be able to hurt Canelo, and if Canelo has enough confidence and the ability to make Floyd fight, he can win. Every fight is different, and every style is different. Just because Floyd has done certain things with other fighters, he may not be able to do it against a young, hungry, mentally strong fighter that will have all of Mexico cheering him on, and flocks of fans around the world pushing him on. Floyd is human. By the way, I read earlier that Floyd has bet $4,500.000 on the Heat to win by 7 points or more. Wow!, that’s a lot of money for the normal person, but if he can afford it, hats off to him. If he losses, it could be a bad omen for him in the future.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:39 pm 


The Fat Slah

Floyd beats the Cinnabon kid. Time to take Mexi Red to schuul !

Posted June 3, 2013 6:22 pm 


Q

youtube.com/watch?v=sE_B34GQCKM&feature=share&list=UUI-Oq7oFGakzSzHFlTtsUsQ – the trainer of Fernando Vargas, trainer of the year Robert Garcia’s dad, saying he’s never in his 40 years seen a fighter like that. He doesn’t speak English, but he’s not blindly by races and colors and it’s really impressive to me, you have to respect that.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:14 pm 


Q

Shane: bwahahahah….

Posted June 3, 2013 6:13 pm 


Q

overestimated*

Posted June 3, 2013 6:09 pm 


Uncommon

Tim I gotta agree with you. Tark no disrespect to your view point, but maybe just maybe the lack of endurance you saw in Canelo vs Trout is also those 40+ fights Canelo has been in catching up with him… Even if he is 22. I like Canelo, but not in this fight at all. He is not as fast as we would all like him to be…he has no new game plan for Floyd. He will attack the body seen that before…Floyd wins. Great right hand with power, floyd has scene that too, and won… What else does Canelo have??? He is too slow and has under-estimated his chances against PBF. Canelo is just not ready for PBF.

Posted June 3, 2013 6:03 pm 


Shane

This is 100/0 fight for FMJ…..are it wouldn’t have been made.

Posted June 3, 2013 5:30 pm 


Tim

Canelo is a good fighter but I don’t think he’s got what it takes to beat PBF. Size advantage or not. It appeared that Canelo is lacking in the stamina department and if you don’t have good stamina, you better pray to land a big punch because you can’t beat PBF w/o great stamina. The Pac-man who beat Cotto would have been a MUCH MUCH MUCH bigger challenge to PBF than Canelo is right now. It’s a good fight, worth a few bucks, but I don’t see Canelo having the style to beat PBF.

Posted June 3, 2013 5:27 pm 


Boxe0

Floyd has a 20×20 ring to use to his advantage. Canelo is not quite there yet in cutting off the ring, he’ll get tagged all night.

Posted June 3, 2013 5:22 pm 


TARK

Meant to say: Floyd will not be catching Canelo with those nuisance rights like Trout did..

Posted June 3, 2013 5:11 pm 


TARK

….. “If Canelo jabs at Mayweather, he’ll get countered by right hands and look silly.”

Forget that… Cotto landed enough jabs on Floyd’s nose for the Q-Tips up the bloody nose regimen to be part of the repair work on Floyd’s face. Cotto is shorter than Canelo with a shorter reach, so it’s far easier to counter his jabs. It’s a matter of timing and Cotto still found success with his jab.. Canelo lacks an educated or sophisticated a jab such as Cotto’s, but the Kid has more pop on his and it’s quicker.. It has more range than Cotto’s. The timing isn’t masterful like Cotto’s, but he was better at catching Trout with hard jabs than Cotto was. Trout is much taller and stronger than Floyd, and he’s harder to nail with jabs.

Once Canelo gets a solid jab on Floyd his left hook or right hand follows and a left hook to the liver, followed by another left hook to the chin.. Then a 1-2-3, and maybe 2 uppercuts, and another liver shot, and Floyd could be on the floor. Floyd has never faced hand speed like this in his life.

Saul deviated from his natural style to see if he could out-box a 6-foot southpaw with a slick right hand.. Floyd will not be catching Canelo with those nuisance of soft rights like Canelo did.. Floyd doesn’t have the strength, height, or southpaw style.

Posted June 3, 2013 5:08 pm 


Boxe0

in Floyd’s real time world in the ring Canelo will throw a jab on Monday and will land Tuesday. He’ll see it a week before he throws it. Not even a close fight.

Posted June 3, 2013 5:03 pm 


Q

BRICK CTIY: Yeah but Canelo is even more massive from neck to leg. I don’t doubt that Canelo can do some damage being that FMJ just does not belong at that weight fighting a guy who weighed in as a Super Middleweight last bout (nearly Light HW).. but I think FMJ will beat him in a styles make fights type ordeal.

Posted June 3, 2013 4:44 pm 


Q

Lopez was also trying to FIGHT him, and he got dropped with the SAME combination every time, jaja… left upstairs right upper cut left hook to the body (combo 101) with Paulie then yelling “He’s too *smual*”

Posted June 3, 2013 4:42 pm 


BRICK CTIY

remember when everyone thought the younger bigger victor ortiz was gonna do some damage???? he was gettin chipped up!

Posted June 3, 2013 4:41 pm 


Q

Hecdog: Throwing 40 punches per round or so is great if you land 50% ….his offensive and defensive numbers are ATG. He’s charted as holding fighters to a fight ending 6 punches per round (champions) that’s nonsense. Stop throwing JCC’s name around, we get it. It would have been nice to see his pressure and body attack against Floyd’s gody defense and punch accuracy. Listen, EVERYBODY knows what they “should try” to do, but it’s not so easy when you’re in there. But Canelo may be big enough to do it. Who knows. I’ll also like to add that when you’re fighting someone with Floyd’s FOOT movement and COUNTER speed and accuracy, going to the body isn’t an easy proposition. You still miss, and his body isn’t left… he uses his legs (he can’t use them anymore like in the fight with Baldomir or Corrales, but still) it’s hard to NOT focus on the head, and focus on the body, when he’s TAGGING YOU in the meantime, countering you when you think about going to the body, and moving completely out of your punch range. He’s fought a couple RENOWNED infighters, and it just isn’t easy for them… everyones punch rate drops, nobody likes punching at air. However, although people HAVE conSISTENTLY FAILED at what you people say Canelo SHOULD do, this is different. Floyd is old now, his legs aren’t what they used to be. He actually seemed to have issues setting his feet against Guerrero to be honest, and his dodging looked far more labored than I’ve ever remembered it. Canelo is a good fighter, but more than anything a very big fighter who’s already strong AT 154. Go watch Canelo Vs. Lopez… Lopez was getting in body shots, head shots etc, but with no effect, then Canelo throws a retaliation combo, and knocks him around. Lopez was extremely fat in that fight and it was a circus act. That said, Canelo is really patient and likes to counter….. he’s going to get picked apart fighting like that. Floyd is going to turn him feint him and pop him all night if he does that. He better pull and Abner Mares, duck his head and RUN as fast as he can into Floyd, throwing low blows and all.

Posted June 3, 2013 4:38 pm 


CALIBA

@Can you please spell check before you post smh

Posted June 3, 2013 4:30 pm 


TARK

Mr. Smith says…, “If Canelo jabs at Mayweather, he’ll get countered by right hands and look silly.”

Cotto landed enough jabs on Floyd’s nose for the Q-Tips up the bloody nose regimen to be part of the repair work on Floyd’s face. Cotto is shorter than Canelo so it’s easier to counter his jabs. It’s a matter of timing and Cotto found success with his jab.. Canelo lacks an educated or sophisticated a jab such as Cotto’s, but the Kid has more pop on his and it’s quicker.. It has more range than Cotto’s. The timing isn’t masterful like Cotto’s, but he was better at catching Trout with hard jabs than Cotto was. Trout is much taller and stronger than Floyd, and he’s harder to nail with jabs.

Once Canelo gets a solid jab on Floyd his left hook or right hand follows and a left hook to the liver, followed by another left hook to the chin.. Then a 1-2-3, and maybe 2 uppercuts, and another liver shot, and Floyd could be on the floor. Floyd has never faced hand speed like this.

Saul deviated from his natural style to see if he could out-box a 6-foot southpaw with a slick right hand.. Floyd will not be catching Canelo with those nuisance of soft rights like Canelo did.. Floyd doesn’t have the strength, height, or southpaw style.

Posted June 3, 2013 4:29 pm 


TARK

Arthur Abraham could not possibly out-box a Super Middleweight with the skills of Austin Trout.. That’s pretty much what the Andre Dirrell fight was, and AA was losing every round before he fouled out.. That comparison is ludicrous.

Posted June 3, 2013 4:20 pm 


BRICK CTIY

Canelo is gonna get his ass whooped. i doubt if he hits harder then shane or even victor ortiz. he throws everything with power so he will tired and thats when the knock out comes. He’s been hurt by Cotto’s younger brother which was a smaller man. he’s overrated and will be beat.

Posted June 3, 2013 4:17 pm 


JP

Yeah lets ask all the Mexicans if they think Canelo can beat Mayweather, lmao. OBVIOUSLY they think so, I mean they’re the reason why Canelo is so overrated and overhyped in the first place. Chunky hasn’t beaten ANYBODY good except a close bout against Trout.

Posted June 3, 2013 4:10 pm 


Boxer

This fighter makes me laugh lol, he’s so scared for mayweather that he keeps making excuses before the fight even gets here, this is the thing Floyd isn’t just gonna hit and move so easy against Canelo, he doesn’t just come forward like many assume he does, it’s not the weight, not the youth, it’s Canelo that Floyd is a Lil intimidated with, let me just say this if cotto hit money that much he’s in for a huge suprise with Canelo, oh and to that guy about the morales comment, Garcia would’ve got cleaned up in about 3 rounds by the you get morales!

Posted June 3, 2013 3:44 pm 


Hecdog

The Arthur Abraham resemblance is way off. It’s always 50/50 in a fight. It takes one punch to end. There are so many variables that can change a fight even before the fight actually starts. Fighters train their bodies to be at peak performance for fight night, which takes a lot of hard work and knowledge of their own body . They have to be healthy and hopefully not catch a cold or other things while training. They have to manage their weight comfortably. Their mental frame of mind has to be 100% to deal with everything that comes up before and during a fight. Boxers are very superstitious, and their routines do not or rarely ever change. The fight within the fight is the toughest. IMO, if Canelo has any chance of winning, has to apply smart pressure on Floyd throughout the fight. He has said in recent interviews that he will go after Floyd’s body because his previous opponents have relied too much on his head, which is difficult to hit due to his great defense. Canelo has to be able to use his jab, which he throws with good speed, and power. Canelo has to find a way to close the distance, and punish the body like Julio Cesar Chavez Senior did in so many of his fights (Meldrick Taylor, Edwin Rosario, Macho Camacho). I think Canelo’s conditioning will be a key component for a victory. Mayweather throws one or two punches at a time. He is not a combination puncher like Sugar Ray Leonard or other past greats. He takes his time, let’s you throw and fights at a certain pace that is comfortable for him. Once he gets your timing down, he begins to throw a bit more while opponents tend to slow down more. Canelo has to make Floyd fight for 3 minutes of a round. His defensive skills against the ropes allow him to rest and conserve his energy. Canelo can’t allow this to happen. He’s too young, hungry and energetic to let this happen, he can’t afford and should not get tired. Joe Fraizer is a great example of fighting every second of every round. Canelo needs to take note. Having said all of this, if Canelo can’t slow Mayweather down and control the pace of the fight, we’re all gong to see Mayweather counter, hold, hug, run and take everyone’s money while laughing all the way to the bank.

Posted June 3, 2013 3:40 pm 


Dr. Phil Thieze-Knutz

Not 50/50 but but better than 6.5/1 odds like the Ghost fight. Lil Floyd got Red at the best time he could. Canelo lacks experience, some stamina & will be under a (Pacquaio style)catch weight clause. This is the best Lil Floyd match up since the Cotto fight. Odds are 2/1 or 3/1.

Posted June 3, 2013 3:17 pm 


Ray

You all some haters…lol. Do you all carpool too? Its an interview.

Posted June 3, 2013 3:16 pm 


LE DUMBO

Actually can they just ask Javier Capetillo and Yolanda Saldivar whs gonna win in a simultaneous interview? (2 criminals)

Posted June 3, 2013 3:15 pm 


LE DUMBO

Can they ask Edward James Olmos and the cast of Stand and Deliver, The Vatos Locos and La Onda?

Posted June 3, 2013 3:06 pm 


LE DUMBO

Can they interview the Cartel, George Lopez, Salvador Sanchez jr. and Los Tigeres Del Norte?

Posted June 3, 2013 3:00 pm 


Q

LE DUMBO: bwahajaja

Posted June 3, 2013 3:00 pm 


Q

Oh yeah, and as Morales points out, Floyd’s age is also a factor.

Posted June 3, 2013 2:39 pm 


Q

Oh, hell yeah. Let’s interview all the Mexicans to see what they think. (Don’t interview JMM, he said Canelo loses and is not ready). HOWEVER, this is good. Hey, what does that say about how great FMJ is, a 50-50 fight against the Ring champion of a division you can’t make? against the Ring champion who could EASILY be making weight to fight at Middlweight? That tells you how great FMJ is. 26 pound difference between where they last weighed in on fight night. Please interview more Mexican stars, and tell us what they think of the fight. Go find Barrera. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. FETCH.

Posted June 3, 2013 2:38 pm 



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