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TARK

You’re still a LIAR enema slurper.

Posted June 8, 2013 1:57 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Probably not. Mayflower has too many skills for the predictable Manos de Stucco…

Posted June 8, 2013 11:14 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Where’s the bet ticket lyin assh*le?

Posted June 7, 2013 9:59 pm 


TARK

That is a complete lie… You are a LIAR Ernie Enema Snoot… I have NEVER had 2 different winners… You come up with any posts where I said Kessler was going to beat Froch or Peterson was going to beat Matthysse… Trout was going to beat Canelo… Guerrero was going to beat Floyd or any other fight where I had 2 winners

You are nothing but a damned LIAR.

Posted June 7, 2013 8:33 pm 


Hidalgo

“Floyd got more money for facing Baldomir than he was offered for Cheato. ” Only a tad, Tark. A very small tad.

Posted June 7, 2013 10:16 am 


TARK

What is as plain as your booze addled brain, is that you’re a jerk.. My credibility lies in my ability to correctly analyze fights, styles, and forecast winners. If I’m right most of the time I’m obviously a profitable bettor. I could post tickets galore and it wouldn’t prove they’re mine, or I didn’t mock them up—but I call fights before they happen so you can see if I’m right or wrong. You waste your time picking Internet fights and minding my business because you have nothing better to do with your sorry existence.

Posted June 7, 2013 2:10 am 


TARK

You’re the ass hat loser… I never said I would post my winning tickets.. This isn’t Facebook or Linkedin where I need to prove anything.. Post your birth certificate to prove you’re a person and not a turd as I suspect you are.

Posted June 6, 2013 11:12 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

You claim you make 5-6 figure bets on fights, but when called out on it you avoid the truth. You said you could post some bet tickets for proof, but cowardly spin it when asked to put up or shut up. Since you won’t put up, then why don’t you shut up asshat?…

Posted June 6, 2013 10:51 pm 


TARK

Exiled Yank… I enjoyed the beating Mosley laid on Cheato.. Made my day.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:16 pm 


TARK

Ernie Enema Slurper… Post your birth certificate… I want to know if you were born, or are just a turd as I suspect.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:14 pm 


Exiled Yank

Tark – good point about SSM being pissed. He wanted to beat the living hell out of Cheato… and he did.

Posted June 6, 2013 8:05 pm 


TARK

Cotto and his team made photographic proof of Cheato’s cheating available to the public many times. Including on Max Kellerman’s “face off.”

Posted June 6, 2013 5:45 pm 


TARK

Sredmond you’re the most ignorant jackass who ever walked the Earth. You’re too simple to grasp the most basic concepts.

MargaCheato would never have gotten the Cotto win without plaster. Cotto and his team made photographic proof of Cheato’s cheating many times. Yet you take that win as better than Baldomir’s win over Judah? You’re just stupid. Judah a serial quitter? In what fight did he quit? Khan hit Judah low. Amir committed a double foul because he was holding Zab’s head down as he smashed him with a low blow. Judah expected the referee to be fair—and yes that is unrealistic in this sport. As Lennox Lewis said, ALL of Cheato’s wins are suspect. Martinez has never been stopped in his life by much better fighters but Cheato is going to stop him??? Get your head examined you stupid turd. Balomir was the lineal World Welterweight Champion. Floyd got more money for facing Baldomir than he was offered for Cheato. Cintron was a terrible boxer and Cheato used plaster to club him down as well. Cintron said it felt like he was getting hit with a baseball bat and now he knows why. How many beat downs or stoppages has Cheato achieved since he’s been exposed?? ZERO. That gives you your answer you stupid clown.

Posted June 6, 2013 5:43 pm 


Pain

Margo would’ve given Floyd hell, even beat him down bad if Floyd fought him. With or without the plasters. This is the truth negro s.

DLH is a fool if he thinks Floyd will stay in the pocket against Saul, though.

Posted June 6, 2013 4:16 pm 


SREDMOND

Of course Floyd would have defeated Margo he is 100 times faster and a smarter boxer

Posted June 6, 2013 3:56 pm 


TARK

The opponents after Mosley had time for their anger to mitigate… Shane was hit with the reality of what Cheato was trying to do while he was in the dressing room… That steam had no where to go but into the cheat.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:31 pm 


TARK

Cheato didn’t even have an iron chin without his plastered wraps to keep you from exchanging with him… When guys exchanged with him after he was exposed, he looked plenty vulnerable… Especially against Mosley who was fit to be tied… Shane was so angry at Cheato it radiated through the entire area … He wanted nothing less than to beat Cheato right into the canvas — and he was still pissed after he knocked Cheato TFO… If that had taken place in a back ally Cheato would have been in a coma for 6 months … if he survived.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:28 pm 


Exiled Yank

Cheato was nothing without his loaded gloves. The man had no defense except an iron chin. He was there to be hit all night, plus he was slower than Christmas in January. FM would have picked him apart all night for one of the most boring UD wins imaginable. It would have been a nightmare with everyone screaming FM cheryy-picked him.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:48 pm 


TARK

Cheato wasn’t as good as Baldomir… Baldomir beat Judah.. What 5-time World Champion did Cheato ever beat??? An aging Mosley smashed Cheato every round and knocked him TFO with plenty of rounds to spare.. What do you think Floyd would have done to Cheato??? He would have murdered him every round and taken him out.. Do you think Floyd’s team is going to let somebody with plastered wraps into the ring??? They weren’t born yesterday. They know every trick out there … Cheato hasn’t stopped a soul since he was exposed.. Without his casts the master of plaster has been a disaster.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Margarito would have looked like Baldomir with more power in there with Floyd it would have been pot shot heaven… Cotto was teeing off on him till his legs gave out and Tony ground him down..FMJ is better in the 12th than the 1st Floyd punishes over aggression as do all GREAT counterpunchers, how the hell do you think Marquez finally caught up with a reckless but faster Pacquaio ????

Posted June 6, 2013 1:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Guys I hate to tell you this but we don’t know what Canelos fate is?? This kid might go to the HOF or he might be a bust… His hiding at 154 is gonna end and when he’s in with BIG MW’s like Martin Murray and others how will he react?? I like Canelo but these 7 year projections for a guy who has a single World Class win on his resume are pathetic and amateur unless you work for Team Alvarez or Golden Boy… I say Te same for Broner or anything other fresh talent…

Posted June 6, 2013 1:17 pm 


Exiled Yank

Pete – I’ve been preaching the same sermon for years. DLH is desperate to have one his fighters beat FM. His obsession is pathetic. I swear he will sign and put anyone in the ring with FM so he can have some sense of vengeance.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:51 pm 


Pete Wells

Here we go again with Oscar running his mouth after a night on the town snorting much coke & changing into woman’s panties. I had the kid having a chance but since Oscar has open his mouth “again” Floyd wins by a TKO. Oscar has been wrong on all his predictions against Floyd!!!! I know he desperately wants someone to beat him since he couldn’t & it’s drove him to doing more coke then the average junkie can afford. Oscar hates Floyd Mayweather, but is too much of a coward to admit it to the man face to face. If Oscar had it his way he would have Floyd fight Tyson Fury at a catch weight of 210lbs, the guy is out there. He hates seeing the 0 after all of Floyd’s wins & it’s eating him alive. It’s been eating at him for years, and now that he has this young kid with some heavy guns, but no skills, he’s going to give it one more try to knock that 0 off Floyd’s chest. Well good luck Oscar, I doubt seriously that the kid can do it, but it’s his ass not yours that is going to look foolish……

Posted June 6, 2013 12:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, please Keith Thurman is ANOTHER new figure being brought along they ALL start young fighting who cares about that? His boxing skills are hardly special at this point Canelo is a better boxer… The ONLY way Thurman would touch Mayweather is impending ILD age catching up to him…Thurmans another GGG type looking good against mostly low level competition… I’ve seen this movie before…

Posted June 6, 2013 11:39 am 


Ghetto Thug in NYC on bussines

Exiled Yank, you are absolutely right

Posted June 6, 2013 10:53 am 


Exiled Yank

If someone wants to beat FM, they will need to do something new, not repeat Castillo, and not to try and live off jabs,m because FM has learned how to negate both. Every fighter since Castillo has tried to pressure FM and he keeps beating them. Pressure doesn work because it allows FM to set traps and time them coming in. Alvarez will need to something totally new if he wants to win. The thing is, this kid has power and combination punching, so maybe he will land something, but outside of a few chance shots, I don’t see Alvarez taking him. He’s just not experienced enough and DLH is giving him sorry advice.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:25 am 


Exiled Yank

Duran – Every fighter and fan out there knows this about Castillo, the problem is that no fighter (including Castillo himself) has been able to duplicate it. I think Castillo won the first fight, but FM grew from it and has never made that mistake again. The blueprint maybe in existence, but the problem is that their is not a carpenter that can build it because FM has moved to another neighborhood.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:21 am 


TARK

Canelo is not ahead of Floyd right now… It’s kind of a trade off… Canelo won’t reach his peak until he’s at least 30, more than 7 years away… Floyd was at his pead at 30, more than 6 years ago… However, to me a boxer improves faster as he ages than he declines after 30.. Due to improving boxing skills he can ride his peak several years into his physical decline.. You won’t see as much of a drop off from 30 to 36 as you’ll see a vast improvement from 22 to 30.. That’s because as a boxer is maturing physically he’s improving his skills every year as well.. Now he could get a lot better after 30 if he switches trainers late in his career like Lewis and Wladimir did.. They had to unlearn a lot of stuff, which takes longer to get rid of bad habits than to develop good ones — or replace flawed skills with technically proficient ones.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:33 am 


PEEJ

Saying Canelo is ahead of Floyd this early in his career is crazy. Canelo has been a pro since he was 15. They only thing he has on Floyd is being apart of a high profile PPV before Floyd in less time. But it is against Floyd. It took Floyd 9 years and Canelo 7

Posted June 6, 2013 12:17 am 


PEEJ

Correctamundo, neither was Canelo. And I did hear Bernsein say that but it was already a couple of rounds in.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:15 am 


Hey Tark! Its me Canelo, get off my tip, its uncomfortable!

Tark, styles make fights! So what if Mosley caught Mayweather with a good shot, big deal! Money went on to win the rest of the round and the rest of the fight! Mayweather adjusted and it DID NOT happen again during the course of the fight! Maybe YOU saw it happen like 20 more times during the fight – thanks!! Remember when Mayweather got hit sometimes during his 44 fights, maybe you can list each and every instance so that you can use it in my defense, again, thanks Tark. I didnt look all that “sizzling” against Trout, there are some who thought I lost or barely won with that STUPID open scoring that allowed me to COAST to victory….still again, thanks Tark! Mayweather complimenting Cotto means nothing, its something that comes with the territory when youre in a tough fight! Mayweathers into the habit of throwing out compliments to WHOMEVER he fights, especially now, including towards the last self righteous dude he went against! Mayweather will even exaggerate a bit for effect! Tark, maybe youre ignoring the fact that Mayweather has said his defense has suffered prior to the reemergence of his dad! Even to me, Mayweather is looking much, much better post Cotto! Hey Tark, TEMPORARILY, would you please get off my tortilla, you sound like a little kid that simply wants to be right. Youre embarrassing me a little… OK – a lot!! I guess you like when I beat up on light welters & welters with my excess weight!? I guess it gives you ammo to defend me like I’m TRULY exceptional as I win against them. Have I fought the best at 154? I think you think I have….thanks Tarkee!! But you should Grow too Tark, because I’m still learning, also: I have NEVER fought in my natural weight division – YET!! Tark youre just like me in the ring with your misinformed info: you push the WEIGHT of the issue like a BULLY! lol Tark! WOW, you really think I’m BETTER than Mayweather!? Tell me more, what you see in me, as I slug out the little comp I go against!! Nevertheless, again, Thanks Tark. I think youre my #1 FAN!!

Posted June 5, 2013 11:44 pm 


Big Al

Oh, Oscee… you’d love that wouldn’t you? For Floyd to make the same mistake you made against Pacquiao? And quit on his stool the way you did?

Posted June 5, 2013 9:46 pm 


TARK

Boy you guys are pathetic… Canelo fought Mosley a couple fights after Floyd fought him…and didn’t get tagged with wicked right hands that started Floyd’s legs doing the dipsdy-doodle..

Floyd himself said to Miguel Cotto, “Miguel, you gave me the toughest fight I’ve ever had. You are the toughest fighter I’ve ever faced in my life.”

Right… And in Cotto’s next fight he gets whipped conclusively by Austin Trout — a guy 22-year-old Canelo Alvarez outsmarted, outslicked, outboxed, floored with a sizzling straight right, and beat by unanimous decision … So stick that in your soup and slurp it.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:17 pm 


adam1

The Red Headed Hype has a Snowball’s chance in Hell, Hes got more chance being hit by lightning than winning. Money will whip that ass all night long

Posted June 5, 2013 8:08 pm 


Exiled Yank

Tark – Look at FM’s record on boxrec and compare it to Canelo’s… there is no comparison. FM was the true champ at 130 in less than 20 fights, he was the true champ at 135 and 147 twice and only has a couple of more fights than Canelo does now. You can look at age or you can look at number of fights, but if you look at the number of fights, then you need to look at the level of competition, and again, Canelo does not compare. I like Canelo, and he has youth and size going for him, and he is dangerous, but it is futile to compare records because Canelo has been expertly handled so far and his record is bloated with stiffs. FM was handled well, too, but they chose to have less fights against better competition.

Posted June 5, 2013 6:52 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

As seen in other threads:

OK cool, now you go on record as a welsher, that make it a perfect trifecta being a ball-gazer and salad tosser too…

Posted June 5, 2013 6:15 pm 


TARK

Post your birth certificate Ernie Enema Snoot… To prove you were born and not just a turd as I suspect..

Posted June 5, 2013 5:57 pm 


TARK

Canelo will be miles ahead of where he is right now when he’s 30 years old… He won’t necessarily eclipse Floyd’s all-around skills by that age… But he does have better punching power and a more resilient chin… He has better basic materials to work with except for a super knowledgeable trainer such as Floyd Sr.

Posted June 5, 2013 5:13 pm 


Q-Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras

Canelo will weigh around 300lbs after rehydrating and will more than likely fight heavyweights next. But Canelo is the best! He can do anything! Deep down inside we are his biggest fans! – las 3 mosqueteras.

Posted June 5, 2013 4:56 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

PEEJ-IF you watched the Fight twice then you need to watch it THREE times because Trout came out on the Offensive from the opening bell…. In FACT Al Berenstein says “WOW who would’ve thunk it?? Canelo is the one moving around and Trout is the aggressor. “….or something to that effect. Trout’s game plan was to take it ro Canelo all along. He just wasn’t as effective as he would have liked.

Posted June 5, 2013 3:36 pm 


Tim

If PBF didn’t want or couldn’t stand and trade with Guererro, he sure as heck isn’t going to stand and trade with Canelo. Guerrero isn’t NEAR the puncher that Canelo is and PBF moved around that entire ring all night long. I think PBF will beat Canelo simply because, Canelo has practically zero experience at the top level. Trout was his first real test, but Trout is hardly a beast. People whine and complain about the weight advantage. Look, weight advantage isn’t going to help a fighter like Canelo. He’s too inexperienced and hasn’t shown very good stamina. PBF by UD.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:38 pm 


PEEJ

Tark, Canelo never faced a pure boxer till he four Trout. Everyone else he fought came to him. I know the knockdown punch was straight. I watched the fight twice. But in the first 3 or 4 rounds he was chasing Trout and he was throwing those punches. Trout was smiling ehen he missed. Only after the scores where read did the fight change. It went into Canelos favor because Trout then had to come forward. Something Canelo likes

Posted June 5, 2013 2:22 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

props to Floyd and Alvarez for making this though amazing what you can do when Top Rank are not involved.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:18 pm 


Boxe0

Hey Oscar why the hell will Floyd request a 20×20 ring if he plans on standing in the pocket?…

Posted June 5, 2013 2:07 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION…He must think that 105 is MORE than 183…

Posted June 5, 2013 1:31 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“TARK get out of here Bro ur chatting Sh-t as always bro”-Yup. The NON counter SAID that Cotto landed more on Floyd than he DID vs. Trout. LMFAO. He must think that 183 shots is LESS than 105…..Go take a COUNTING class.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:30 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Also 168 DOES qualify for LHW…. As long as no one changes the numbering system that says 168 is LESS than 175.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:22 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: that’s true. I won’t take any of Floyd’s glory. jaja.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:21 pm 


Q

Sorry everyone. I’ve been extremely annoying and obnoxious, and I really should stop posting so much and go play somewhere, jaja. It should be a good fight. Canelo is a talent good big fighter, his size alone isn’t his keys to make it SOMETHING, but rather what he can do with that size. I still think Floyd will win, and he’ll employ the same strategies as against Corrales-Marquez, although he doesn’t have the physical ability in him anymore. Tons of feints and lateral movement against the front back counter puncher. And lost of jabs. He may even gamble for body shots, even though it’s dangerous, he’s good at it and Canelo gasses. A steady body shot exhibition could lead to Canelo seeming ready to be stopped (although I won’t go so far as to say Floyd will stop him, Floyd isn’t stopping people lately, but he’s hurting everybody for sure) we will see what happens. What do you all think?

Posted June 5, 2013 1:20 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Q-A DRAW isn’t a DEFEAT. SO Canelo remains undefeated until Sept 14th.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Martinez is ONE lower weight fighter and we cannot build a BOXING thesis off him anymore than we can a FREAK like Hopkins who can still win at 48 by that (Hops) standard 100% of prior boxing history SUCKS because he is the OLDEST man to win a major Championship… A snake oil salesman like Tark will push that but we are NOT buying it… Austin Trout is being GROSSLY overrated, he is a very good boxer and he beat Cotto but Cotto was coming straight off a loss and he has been beaten before… Cotto is not native to 154 and Trout by his OWN admission is a BIG 154 pounder, Trout beat Miguel convincingly but did NOT knock him out… If Trout retired today he would be forgotten UNLESS Canelo really becomes something historically special it would be noted that Alvarez won a close (despite those rapist judges) unification against Trout….Canelo knocked Trout down ONCE big fcking deal? He lost most of the rest of that round and he could not keep him down… Juan Manuel Marquez has been down against countless fighters Mayweather, Pacquiao, Barrera, Katsidis and he still went on to finish, compete and often WIN…. Canelo could NOT seal the deal and that might be a more ominious sign when he starts reguarly facing guys his own size which is NOT something that seems to be in his immediate future… Trout does NOT have World Class power he has NOT stopped any World Class fighters he has YEARS between stoppages of non-descript opponents… Its time to get this in perspective there were TWO GREEN relatively untested Champs who fought a close fight where Trout was disrespected by those crappy scores and some nuts thought Canelo looked like Mayweather in there come September you will see what the REAL FMJ looks like against a plodder

Posted June 5, 2013 1:17 pm 


Q

jajajajaja…. 180

Posted June 5, 2013 1:01 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

not that hes actually that fast

Posted June 5, 2013 12:49 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

if alvarez comes in @154 for this expect him to be 180lbs fight night a 30 lb difference at jmw is otherworldly 2 sides to the coin though at 65 he would have the speed on the other hand

Posted June 5, 2013 12:49 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

He didn’t look great against a SSM who was half the man he used to be either Mosley was actually clowning him a few times

Posted June 5, 2013 12:45 pm 


Q

“or he wouldn’t be going into his 44th fight undefeated and the top 154-pounder in the world. This fight will open your eyes” – A. He’s a talented good fighter who fights little guys consistently… why shouldn’t he be undefeated? His first step up was against Trout and the kid gassed horribly against a light puncher who wasn’t even really pressing him or anything. B. He’s not undefeated if you count the DRAW. No man has bested him, but an 8 win fighter got a draw. Don’t tell me it was early in his career, because you’re the one talking about his undefeated record against not much. HOWEVER, he beat that Vazquez guy twice… early in their careers. I’d like to see how that played out.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:42 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Q – excellent rundown on the fight I think after 2-3 rds we will have a good idea what will happen. i see alvarez slowing down after 6-7 rds and really picking his punches i don’t see him having much gas to fight much more than that i mean he usually only fights half a round. Floyd will make this as easy as the Guerrero fight hes to quick and experienced down the stretch alvarez is going to get hit very very often

Posted June 5, 2013 12:37 pm 


Q

Yeah, making me one of your idiot brethren IS a lost cause. It will take a few blows to the dome for that to occur. Even then it’s not likely.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:34 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

TARK get out of here Bro ur chatting Sh-t as always bro

Posted June 5, 2013 12:33 pm 


Q

TARK: A. Trout is a crafty southpaw, but he fought a BAD fight technically against Canelo and it still wasn’t a runaway. He was circling the wrong way and leaning towards the right hand… he also didn’t go to the body as much as he should have, things that he could try in a rematch. B. Trout’s disadvantage ABOVE that is that he was too physically TALENTED for Trout who himself isn’t a good puncher at all at 154. Canelo has his skills but stylistically and with Trouts deficiencies in certain areas, it was a fairly close bout STILL, that Canelo still yes, clearly won IMO. Meanwhile, I think you wrote something about the right hand that was landed from “5 feet away” don’t be silly. Trout got lazy and arrogant and stood in Canelo’s range… just standing there for 10 seconds straight, and Canelo threw a one two with Trout relaxing in a display of (yeah, I’m not gonna react to your feint again).. he underestimated Canelo’s quickness.. but it was a good one-two…. it wasn’t a right hand from 5 feet away, he didn’t hardly even have to reach, which is why it was so strong that time, his back foot was actually planted.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:32 pm 


TARK

wtf…. Right man. There’re a lot of lost causes like Q here. I never dreamed people could be so stupid.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:31 pm 


wtf

TARK have u seen the comments to Wladimir wants the contract signed ? From the 9th or 10th comment on, Ernie thought Angelina is YOU !! LOL !

Posted June 5, 2013 12:26 pm 


Q

these are the facts* – this is the reality*

Posted June 5, 2013 12:24 pm 


Q

TARK: Don’t argue about semantics and call someone a moron, DIMWIT. Logic is not with YOU, but with ME. I could say “I think Floyd’s next bout should be against (etc)” …I could say “I think Floyd’s next bout AFTER CANELO should be against (etc)” (for the imbeciles who need things mind numbingly specific).. what would sound bad would be “I think Floyd’s upcoming bout should be against (etc)” (specifically when he already has an opponent chosen)…his UPCOMING BOUT is against Canelo. This is the facts of the matter if you REALLY want to go into a semantic battle then it’d be better that you EDUCATE YOURSELF first, then go there. Otherwise you’re writing with the wrong person. Silly guy/gal.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:21 pm 


Q

TARK: His “Cheetos” bout, or whatever, was at 147, but he was fluctuating into his 150′s from as early as his 4th bout. He weighed more in his fourth bout as this WW, than FMJ managed while trying to make 154. Keep trying though, it’s interesting seeing what random idiocy comes out next from you folks.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:14 pm 


TARK

GTFOOH you fruit cake.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:13 pm 


TARK

Q…. You don’t think Mayweather’s next fight is against Canelo??? BOY you’re supid… Upcoming fight and next fight are the same thing you idiot.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:11 pm 


TARK

PEEJ…. Trout is one of the world’s slickest southpaws.. If Canelo was doing as you suggest Trout would have made him pay dearly… Canelo is not Gene Fullmer, Jake LaMotta, or Arthur Abraham… Forget that BS because he’s a damned good boxer with a terrific jab, great right uppercut that caught Trout repeatedly, and the punch Canelo floored Trout with was a sizzling straight right hand … Canelo has the weapons or he wouldn’t be going into his 44th fight undefeated and the top 154-pounder in the world. This fight will open your eyes.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:09 pm 


Q

TARK: I’m not mincing anything peon, the fact is your going into SEMANTICS because your weak ass uninformed “debating” is failing like a (hypothetical) Manny Pacquiao 2009 drug test (allegedly). Floyd’s NEXT bout will be next year…. his UPCOMING BOUT (the one SCHEDULED) is this year with Canelo, or are you too stupid to understand that? bow out and stop digging deeper into your WRONGNESS by trying to defend it. Jaja.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:07 pm 


Q

TARK: Bingo on the Leonard’s 168/175 title bout farce. You get a cookie.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:02 pm 


TARK

You said Floyd’s next fight he’d be 37… His next fight is already scheduled and it’s against Canelo… He’ll be 36… Don’t mince words and say, “I meant the next after his next fight.” LMFAO.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:02 pm 


TARK

Martinez didn’t fight super welter weight after 4 fights — his Cheato fight was a welterweight fight.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:59 am 


Q

TARK: Again? Nice try. And you’re mistaken AGAIN. Floyd’s NEXT BOUT technically will be NEXT year and AFTER early February for sure. His CURRENT (aka SCHEDULED) bout is in September and he’ll still be an old 36. Unless you didn’t know that Floyd was 36 (which wouldn’t surprise me)

Posted June 5, 2013 11:58 am 


PEEJ

Tark look at the first 3 or 4 rounds and then come back and tell me what you see. Canelo was throwing looping punches from to far away that threw him off balance and it made him look amateurish but Trout never made him pay. He didn’t do it the whole fight. He did it at the beginning when he was following him around. I figured he stopped after the 4th since was was up 4 rounds to zip at that point which was crazy

Posted June 5, 2013 11:58 am 


Q

it REALLY was a LHW fighting at Super Middleweight for a vacant title. AKA simply a Super Middleweight bout.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:55 am 


TARK

Q….. Floyd will NOT be 37 before his next bout. Mistaken again.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:55 am 


Q

RETIRING part time fighting Lennox*

Posted June 5, 2013 11:53 am 


TARK

The Leonard-Lalonde fight was a canard… James Toney and Iran Barkley didn’t fight for 2 world titles in their fight… Tommy Hearns was LHW Champ when he beat Virgil Hill. In his next fight he lost to Iran Barkley.. The next fight Barkley lost was to James Toney.. The next fight Toney lost was to Roy Jones. ALL these fights were under the LHW limit.. So Jones would have been the lineal LHW champ at that point, and Toney and Barkley are LHW Champs … except there’s a rule you can’t contest for 2 world titles in one fight. They got rule waved for Leonard-Lalonde.

The Lalonde fight was set up so Leonard could have a world title without having to face Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, or Julian Jackson … Leonard defended his phony 168-pound title at 160 and fought whoever he pleased at 160 while being stripped of the 160-pound title … This is Boxing after all. They pull capers like this.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:51 am 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: that’s not actually what it was…. the reason he was able to fight for the LH title was because yes he DROPPED and they “legally” simply deemed it a catchweight, although it REALLY was a LW fighting at Super Middleweight for a vacant title. So technically a LW (175 title holder) was able to be STILL deemed a LH, while fighting for a Super MW title. Well, let’s just leave this one alone, I don’t even see the point, and when weight legality and such gets into the mix, it’s all that more confusing.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:50 am 


Q

TARK: Thanks for listing rarities in the sport. Smaller fighters age faster, that’s a fact and that’s based on the NORM. For every fighter who you say fought into their 40′s there are 40 more who were in clear declined in the early 30′s. I’ve seen all of FMJ’s bouts and he is physically in clear decline. Eder fought in the 50′s 70′s.. I won’t get into that. Sergio was always a BIG WW.. fighting in his 150′s within 4 bouts.. he’s a good puncher and quick and fighting at MIDDLEWEIGHT. He’s fighting slower men which is important (even though he’s been getting knocked around lately at 37-38..and FMJ will be 37 before his next bout) so I don’t see what you THOUGHT you were going to get across with that. The REASONS why those SMALLER guys in those SMALLER weight classes tank faster is because their bodys slow down, and their radars get a bit off track, and it’s a more highspeed skillful game down there. Furthermore, Sergio hasn’t been a WW for about 12 years, so he hasn’t aged as a WW… he’s up there outboxing lesser fighters than Floyd is facing, with his good power and those slower guys. And if you want to say where Sergio STARTED (even though it’s irrelevant for all the reasons I’ve given you and more) then you have to realize that FMJ STARTED 3 divisions BELOW WW as a super featherweight, and he was there for 5 years… and was never BIG for the weight. Like I said, those small fighters decline faster and it shows much more clearly. So don’t be stupid saying “not really” as if your handful of CRAPPY examples negate the FACT of what I’ve written. As I said, Wlad and Vitali are ALWAYS much bigger than their opponents, and when they aren’t it’s some 0 skilled fat modern HW. Vitali can’t be the best HW ever when he lost to a RETIRING part time fighting Vitali. He didn’t just get his eye ripped out his face by a HW great (as he’s considered) but he was in his prime and the “great” was not. And he still lost, and that was his one chance. Don’t tell me about needing the best trainers in the world to not suck when MANY P4P top notch fighters were and are trained by their father’s and such. You lose in your prime to the little bitty guys and sluggers, you aren’t mentioned with FMJ. let’s not even disgrace Floyd’s article with that. Thanks.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:45 am 


hecubus

how come everytime i read a new canelo article, his rehydration weight on the day of the fight keeps going up? by the time its sept 14th, some of these journalists are going to have him weighing more than wvladimir klitchko.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:30 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION….UNDER the LHW limit…

Posted June 5, 2013 11:23 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Q-CORRECT. As I stated 168 falls UNDER then LHW limit therefore the title was able to be put on the line. Educated move by Leonard.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:23 am 


TARK

Wladimir went after one of the world’s best boxing trainers after his lost to Corrie Sanders. “You’ve gotta help me Manny.” His initial fight with Emmanuel Steward was a disaster, but the Sam Peter fight shortly after was a big success. Despite the knockdowns Wladimir won comfortably and showed plenty of stamina … and under Steward’s expert tutelage Wladimir continued to get better for 10 years running. He’s now being trained by Steward disciple Jonathan Banks, who recently KO’d hyped undefeated heavyweight Seth Mitchell with ease. when Mitchell was hurt he tried to grab Banks around the waist … Ridiculous for a guy with 25 fights, but that’s what poor trainers do for you. Floyd has had the best trainers since he was 3. BTW, Mariuze Wach, 27-0, was taller, heavier, had a longer reach and several years in age on Wladimir.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:55 am 


Happyboy

Adrian – Keith Thurman couldn’t beat Mayweather even in his dreams.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:50 am 


TARK

Q writes…, “Those LOWER DIVISION FIGHTERS have ALWAYS aged FASTER.”

Not really… Martinez started as a welterweight and was only stopped by Cheato—of whom Lennox Lewis said, “He’s been cheating all along when he could get away with it.” Especially since Martinez has NO real loss on his 54 bout record—and no stoppage, except the Cheato fight. Funny thing, Cheato has no stoppages since his plastered wraps were discovered. Great bantamweight and featherweight champion, Eder Jofre, fought past age 40, and won the last 25 fights of his career. His only 2 losses came in Japan.

Boxing is notorious for cheaters. Taking padding out of gloves.. doctoring wraps.. bribing corrupt judges and referees.. drugging opponents.. Rodolfo “Gato” Gonzalez risked his world title in Japan. He told me he could barely make it into the ring before the fight he felt so tired and weak. The American referee openly favored Gonzalez—physically lifting Gato up off the floor when he collapsed and made him to continue. Gonzales said, “Rozadilla was trying to make a dead man fight. He wanted to save my title so bad he pulled me up—but that title was gone before the fight started.”

Vitali was winning on ALL scorecards when his fight with Lewis was stopped by the doctor. The cuts that stopped the fight were ripped open with illegal blows from the palm and heel of Lewis’s glove while Vitali was in a head lock. Lou Moret was the referee—the same ref who didn’t call a foul in the dirty Guerrero-Berto fight. Moret allowed Guerrero to commit countless fouls. Vitali K. has never been knocked down, and has never been behind on points—both things that have happened to Floyd Mayweather. VK’s not as great as Mayweather—but among heavyweights he was the best ever.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:40 am 


SREDMOND

Keith Thurman could not beat Mayweather with a BAT that’s a joke, unless Floyd is 40 and really “past it” Thurman’s another guy with average skills and heavy hands that’s not gonna get it done besides Thirmans name is not big enough to get in the ring with FMJ…These next 4 fights are gianna include sellable foes, this is the Cous de GRAS for boxings Grandmaster..

Posted June 5, 2013 7:45 am 


SREDMOND

Wlad was knocked out 3x in the prime of a boxers life he has not nor never will be dominant in the manner Floyd was facing Champion after Champion… WE INOW WLad has it in him
to lose to BUMS and out of shape inactive Golf Caddies because it HAPPENED… Floyd is 36 going on 37 and he’s never been taken in his prime… Vitali, and Martinez have all lost via stoppage in the physical prime of a boxer… If Floyd loses it will be noted that for 17 years he was unbeatable and assuming he defeats Canelo the discussion is REALLY over because he will be 37 before he laces up again… A REMARKABLE achievement!!! By the time Wlad had as many bouts as Floyd he had been humiliated 3x and was fighting with Vitali who wanted him to retire after he had to be carried to his corner and taken to the hospital because Brewster had caught him on the chin… Good on him
For righting himself but that version of Wlad who was around for 48 bouts (till Peter) would have NEVER survived the peak of a better era…Whereas the Great FMJ cannot be touched and he’s not 6 inches taller and 40 pounds heavier than his opposition…

Posted June 5, 2013 7:40 am 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: Well, actually, 168 is Super Middleweight (where Ward fights)… and 175 is Light HW (where Chad Dawson fights). All divisions have an upper limit but not a lower limit. The HW’s don’t have an upper limit, but do have a lower limit (given that there is no ceiling it only makes sense)… SRL fought for a vacant 168 title and 175 title by having a title holder from 175 come down 7 pounds to 168 (to face him for that vacant title, and his own, since they considered it a CATCHWEIGHT of LH). So when he beat the guy, he got the vacant 168 title and the 175 title at the same time (more or less BS all around).

Posted June 5, 2013 4:52 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“You make 147 it’s welterweight, period.”-FALSE. Floyd can make 147 and still Fight at Jr. Middleweight. Just as SRL WON the LHW title at 168 because EVERY Weight class besides heavyweight has an UPPER limit but no LOWER limit. HW has a LOWER limit but no UPPER limit…..SO the FACT is that anything from 154-1 is Jr. Middleweight. RETARD.

Posted June 5, 2013 4:15 am 


Adrian

Wlad still losing ??? Hahahaha since when ? A decade ago??? Hahsha

Posted June 5, 2013 3:05 am 


Adrian

Legendweather uahuahauahuahuaga jajajajaj

Posted June 5, 2013 3:04 am 


Q

KOrnerman: Hence the pointing at the screen in disbelief image that Rob used. Like “what the fvck that say? I’m gonna do what? why?”

Posted June 5, 2013 2:56 am 


Q

or rather, the decline shows faster as they age. You guys are comparing him to HW’s and Light HW’s, jajajajaj. Man, Legendweather is too much. I’m outta here.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:50 am 


Q

Tark: Don’t be SILLY, everyone ages differently, and those LOWER DIVISION FIGHTERS have ALWAYS aged FASTER. Meanwhile, with the opposition of the Klits and there size advantage they always enjoy… they don’t have THE RIGHT, to be losing, even though they BOTH have (trash)… and who cares if Bernard is 48? That means every fighter NOW has to fight at a high level into their late 40′s? that makes sense… “of you’re 46 and you lost? psh, no excuses… Bernard was 49!” jajajajajja… w..t..f. Ok Tark, you think FMJ will get stopped, now let’s see what happens. By the way SRL was done at about 32… smaller fighters are done sooner, they have more SPEED to deal with with the young pups, and the age shows faster when they decline.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:46 am 


largo

LOL!!! TARK, answer to this Q guy at your own risk; this guy has a pathological problem…he can’t help himself, he has to talk & talk & talk & talk & then talk some more. If you want to follow a demented individual, go ahead. I’m letting he be, this guy is out of his fvcking mind. I’m disengaging this mother fvcker. Bye.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:40 am 


Q

Adrian: No, I’d say Wlad is TRASH for being FAR bigger and more talented than all his opponents and still losing, something that has NEVER happened to FMJ… notice even MORE emphasis is placed SPECIFICALLY on Canelo’s EXTREME size advantage, the Klits are ALWAYS far bigger than their opponents, or fighting some fat completely slow modern HW… don’t even mention those things with FMJ. Blasphemous fiend you. I’m leaving now.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:40 am 


TARK

Wladimir Klitschko is 37… Vitali Klitschko is 41… Sergio Martinez is 38… Bernard Hopkins is 48.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:40 am 


KOrnerman

NO WAY money stands in pocket hahahahahahahahaha

Posted June 5, 2013 2:39 am 


TARK

I fear a horrific KO like the one Pac suffered… Floyd is the GOAT.. I think his pride and a referee’s over-the-top respect might convince a referee to let a shaky and hurt Floyd continue to fight.. When Khan got up from the 1st Garcia knockdown he was very shaky and wobbly.. I thought, “Come on idiot… This kid is done for the night … STOP IT!!!” … Same with Lamont Peterson after the 2nd knockdown by Matthysse.. His legs were jelly.. You don’t come back from that.. The 3rd knockdown the wind from Matthysse’s swing blew him over.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:38 am 


Adrian

Ummmm let’s see here ,for Q… wlad is 36 floyed 36 but if floyed losses to Canelo its because floyed is at the end of his carriere and because he fought a much younger guy and biger ..ok and if let’s say wlad fights wilder and losses i am sure he would never say wlad was 36 and lost to a much younger fighter but would say wlad lost because he fought a worthy opponent and all of his previous wins were against bums …hahaha

Posted June 5, 2013 2:35 am 


Q

I’m done, I’ll NEVER ..NOT be able to shoot down the trashy little weak attempts of making so called “points” so I should just stop posting here for a while. I’ll give this site over to you guys to have your little boxing chat fun. Have fun little ones.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:34 am 


Q

Tark: “and a lot of Floyd haters who are Americans will be tickled silly.” – what’s your point? did you not read Sulaiman’s comment about how many people in Mexico don’t like Canelo and gave Jose crap for expressing his belief in Canelo? It’s a fact that many Mexicans do NOT like Canelo at all. So don’t try to turn this to Americans against the American with your ignorant self.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:30 am 


Adrian

Tark > “You’re stupid remark that, “NOBODY is really going to sit and praise Canelo” is the absolute dumbest remark I’ve ever read on the Internet. The whole nation of Mexico will go crazy if Canelo wins … and a lot of Floyd haters who are Americans will be tickled silly.”

You see tark they are already planing on escuses ..lol

Posted June 5, 2013 2:26 am 


Q

TARK: You’re telling me that Canelo is more skillful than Cotto? Go to sleep man. He’s definitely bigger and certainly faster, but more skillful? gtfoh, you’re drunk.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:25 am 


Q

Tark: Exactly a bunch of mexicans and clansman and that ilk will be ECSTATIC and jizzing themselves. But at the end of the day, what could he have done besides beat a 36 year old declined fighter at a fight he’s never been as effective at? Cotto doesn’t come into fights 172, he was a small Jr. MW and that was unfinished business (a more SKILLED man than Canelo, but still a nice bit smaller all around). The first time FMJ went to 154 he was in his prime years still, that was a LONG time ago. Neither time he weighed near 154. I ALSO think FMJ is too GOOD for this guy, and I’ve already listed Canelo’s attributes…. and I think Floyd’s jab will be unveiled in this bout largely, they will practice Floyd’s jab like crazy, and feints like crazy… and he may just end up SWEEPING the rounds against this kid… but if that does NOT happen, it will be for NON boxing related reasons… like some men belong at Jr. WW and others at Middleweight and that’s it. But yes, Canelo wins in terms of he’s making plenty cash… FMJ also would probably like the rematch, haha…. especially if he’s robbed… easy rematch and another fight down.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:23 am 


Adrian

There is one ww right now that I think beats them all in ww including mayweather
His name is Keith Thurman

Posted June 5, 2013 2:21 am 


TARK

I’m pulling for Floyd to win… I just think it’s a tough one… He’s beaten super welterweights before, but none this fast and skillful.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:18 am 


Adrian

Wow if you mention only one of the names of writers that write in esb you comment won’t get threw …lol

Posted June 5, 2013 2:17 am 


TARK

Go soak your head Q… Canelo will get plenty of money for a rematch, and worldwide praise if he beats the recognized greatest fighter on the planet … at age 23… And that’s because Floyd has already won 2 World Championships before at 154, and most experts think he’s way too experienced for Canelo.

You’re stupid remark that, “NOBODY is really going to sit and praise Canelo” is the absolute dumbest remark I’ve ever read on the Internet. The whole nation of Mexico will go crazy if Canelo wins … and a lot of Floyd haters who are Americans will be tickled silly.

Don’t be such a stupid dumb ass.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:13 am 


Q

Unless you think Canelo is going to outbox Floyd Mayweather Jr. Yeah, you don’t think that at all. Let’s go 36 year old WW FMJ! Teach this kid how legends overcome, even at the end of their career. Goodnight.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:09 am 


largo

it’s just mind boggling that in all these threads about Canelo/Floyd if there are 300 posts, 200 are from this KNOW-IT-ALL Q, Q… What can you say that you have NOT SAID ALREADY? I tell you, to get a job would be very helpful in your case…

Posted June 5, 2013 2:08 am 


Q

TARK: Listen peon idiot, it’s not being a hater it’s stating facts. A. Floyd has fought twice at 154, and was slower with his hands both times and couldn’t make the weight either time, which means his effectiveness FACTUALLY drops above 147 where he is a SMALL WW who comes in on fight night 146. B. Canelo always weights in his upper 160′s and just came in over Super Middlweight. 146-172 that’s a full 26 pound of flesh difference between these men in their respective last bout. C. FMJ is a declined 36 year old fighter, and if you do NOT think he’s declined then, you may need to watch him 5 and 6 years ago near or in his PHYSICAL prime. At the end of the day, NOBODY is really going to sit and praise Canelo for beating a man that doesn’t approach belonging in the division. If you don’t get these FACTS then go read a book, I can’t fix your stupid.

Posted June 5, 2013 2:00 am 


largo

Q, good!! take a break!!! you’re too good for us simple minded boxing fans…my guess is you have a thousand friends, don’t you? BTW, I know exactly why I chose “largo” as my screen name & it has nothing to do with Spanish; I reserve what it means to me, for now. Anyway, you were never taught to share & respect & shut up…but it’s never too late to learn to be & let be…

Posted June 5, 2013 1:59 am 


Q

Largo, you’re correct… and if you knew Spanish you would know that your name is a manner of saying GO AWAY….. “¡largo!” and that’s what I’ll do… I’m going in circles with theses MORONS, and it just WON’T sink in because they DON’T possess my boxing KNOWLEDGE and EYE. Goodnight. We are not the same I am a martian. Adiós.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:47 am 


largo

Q, you’re a fvcking martian…what can you say that you-with a thousand posts-haven’t said already? you should take this seriously, STFU! MAN…

Posted June 5, 2013 1:44 am 


Q

TARK: Oh yeah…. we never got to see how it was going to finally play out because Manny was busy getting iced… smfh.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:43 am 


Q

Even SRL is saying it’s Canelo’s size and Floyd’s age and moving up that’s the biggest advantages for Canelo. It’s not just me. Don’t be mad, it’s just either a tremendous win for FMJ THE LEGEND, or a circus act that Canelo will get minimal to no credit for from me. Too big. Or is he? jaja.. we will see. Let’s go Floyd.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:41 am 


TARK

…. “Floyd felt Pac didnt deserve an even split it still ultimately falls on Floyd for the fight not happening.” WTF??? Pacquiao agreed to a lower share well before the 4th Marquez fight … the fight was as good as signed, sealed, and delivered every way you can think of.

It falls on Pacquiao that it didn’t happen… He would have nailed down the fight by beating Marquez in their 4th fight … Instead he got iced.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:40 am 


Q

Ray: Bet your ass on it. I’ll 100% come and say it was Floyd being too unnaturally heavy, Canelo being too massive at the weight, and Floyd being old. Of course I will, because that’s the ONLY way Canelo could win, and it won’t be a secret. This is FLOYD’S bout. Any excuse anybody ever made for anybody Floyd ever fought will be on full rotation if he loses, jaja… what’d you expect?

Posted June 5, 2013 1:28 am 


Q

Rem: I disagree. We can’t say that. I think Arum was in Manny’s ear and whoever… last I checked Manny got his choice of gloves and ring size in that first negotiations when it was actually listed on boxrec I think, and Manny flaked on a test, that’s nothing to do with dictating… that’s mind games or hiding drug use…. or IDK… but you can’t honestly tell me that Martinez would have done the same in that position because there are other star fighters today who take test and who think that the testing thing is actually good for the sport. When the split changed was in fights later…. Manny had already sued Floyd and it was all too personal. It will always fall on Manny to me for ducking the test when the fight was DOOOOONE.. WHYYYY. You think you’re so good, you take less of the split and you win, then take more in a rematch or something. At best you can blame them both, they BOTH are to blame. But at the end of the day, Floyd came to the table to negotiate, the people saying NO was Team MANNY. The end.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:26 am 


Rem

Q Pac like Floyd isnt use to having terms dictated to him. Martineziisnt anywhere near that position if he was hed feel the same way Pac did. But when Pac did agree Floyd changed his position one can only assume to avoid the fight. For whatever delusional reason Floyd felt Pac didnt deserve an even split it still ultimately falls on Floyd for the fight not happening.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:18 am 


Q

RingTV.com: What are your thoughts on the Mayweather-Alvarez fight?

SRL: I think that if there is any opportunity to beat Mayweather, it’s now. This fight is intriguing and it’s a can’t-miss fight. I feel that this is a very interesting fight, and this is a fight that I would watch.

I’d watch because of what can happen. This kid Alvarez is young, this kid is super strong, this kid hits like a ton of bricks. He’s aggressive and this kid can fight. But he doesn’t have the quality of experience of a Mayweather.

So he doesn’t have that. That’s is so vitally important. But Mayweather is 36, and Mayweather is really fighting, from a business perspective, as a business man.

But what separates Mayweather is that, whenever he walks into that ring, man, he’s always ready to go. That’s such an anomaly. That’s such a rarity.

Even with myself. I would walk into that ring sometimes and I wasn’t really that fighter, but I’ve never seen Mayweather not be a fighter in the ring yet.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:09 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Cotto landed ONE more jab vs. Floyd than he DID vs. Trout. But he landed TWICE as many Power punches vs. Trout than he DID vs. Floyd. Even when Floyd’s Defense isn’t UP to HIS standards its still BETTER than Trout’s.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:04 am 


largo

Q looks to me the kind of kid that could never get along with the other kids because he thought to be too good for them. He wasn’t taught by his parents to share & respect opinions & to shut up once in a while…it would not hurt you, Q, to STFU for a while & let your peons express their wrong opinions…free advice.

Posted June 5, 2013 1:00 am 


TARK

PEEJ…. Canelo threw a variety of punches.. The knockdown punch was straight as an arrow.. Some of those jabs that sent sweat flying off AT’s head were upper jabs cracked straight away that Trout never saw.. He didn’t throw wide or blooping shots like Ken Norton or Rocky Graziano.. If you’re trying to get your opponent to throw, you don’t run. You give him something to shoot at and Trout did. He stood there but Trout couldn’t connect well with anything.. Out of the 3 judges and the 3 American commentators nobody gave the fight to Trout.. Yes the scorecards were generous to Alvarez, particularly the goofy scorecard of Stanley Christapoopoo.. But I haven’t seen anyone complain about the verdict itself.. Trout himself doesn’t believe it was an unfair decision.. Alvarez knows he needs to get more separation against Floyd.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:53 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

And Cotto landed MORE PUNCHES vs. Trout than he DID vs. Mayweather. Compubox is as CORRECT as I AM on that.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:44 am 


Rem

Peej Pac wants rbts because he just got back to the milkyway after being sent to another galaxy by J.M Balco.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:43 am 


Q

Rem: I think Martinez if he were in Manny’s situation years ago, he would have taken the little test and fought in the RING not the COURTROOM. Manny Paquiao shat the bed and Arum and his games overestimated Manny’s longevity… and now we have this. Oh well. Meanwhile, Sergio is a MW, he’s been one for YEARS, even if you say he’s small there, because FMJ is ACTUALLY a SMALL WW, but he’s been there for so long, you don’t really worry about that (he did come INTO HIS LAST BOUT ON FIGHT NIGHT at 146)…. he didn’t go up in weight, he lost weight….. the guy is barely a WW much less a Jr. Middleweight. And noooo, Cotto wasn’t hurt by guys with equal power to Floyd… Corely hadn’t had a stoppage in 3 years

Posted June 5, 2013 12:42 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Austin Trout, a superb boxing 171-pounder—who actually got tagged less by Cotto than Floyd did”-FALSE. Please take a MEMORY class. Cotto landed the MOST Effective Punches in the Trout Fight but just didn’t land enough of them…..Floyd landed MORE punches than Cotto AND landed the MOST effective Punches in the Fight.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:41 am 


Q

TARK: Trout’s being gracious, I’ve seen an interview where he says what he would do differently in a rematch and that at least one of the judges is a complete idiot. He doesn’t think he won, and he didn’t IMO, but he thinks it was much closer than the scores indicated, he always is on record saying in interview that the open scoring helped CANELO by letting him know he could play all defense, then Trout started attacking harder, which plays into what Canelo prefers, and it was just a mixed bag. Trout says he’d circle away from the right in a rematch etc. I don’t know what you’re on about, but Trout thinks he beats Canelo in a rematch, of course he’s not going to play FMJ fanboy and say he a little guy moves UP in weight to beat the man that just beat him, jaja… he has his pride. Meanwhile TEAM CANELO offered the catchweight with the guys they did catchweights with, and TEAM CANELO ACTUALLY said 150, then went back on that and said 152. He’s a young 22 year old, it’s not like Manny’s catchweights against guys ready to move up in weight and who hadn’t been at the weight in years and all this madness. What’s next?

Posted June 5, 2013 12:35 am 


PEEJ

Well I agree with that. Margacheato. I actually was arguing with someone whome said Margacheato didn’t commit a crime and his cast was mearly just a knuckle pad that was not hard and was actually soft.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:34 am 


Rem

Peej Cottos punch resistance did seem to get better when he moved up thats y i said what i said but the argument that he was buckled by dudes with similar power to Floyd is a good one. But theres no doubt Floyd had a war torn fighter infront of him after Margo committed a feloney against him.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:33 am 


PEEJ

Oh please do not throw Adrian in there. I respect some of the things you have been saying but Adrian likes to twist history to try and make his theories true. Everyone else on there I agree because I love debating with them.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:30 am 


PEEJ

Tark, Trout was being gracious in defeat, something most fighters who feel they won don’t do, they gripe and moan during the post fighti interview. If you read or listen to any interview since then Trout has said he felt he won the fight. But he also said it was close and could of gone either way but he felt he won. Trout is not a walk you down type of fighter and since they had open scoring he had to be that guy bucause 2 of the judges already had there score cards filled out. I had Trout winning by a round. Now on to the so called head movement that he has improved so much on. Canel was not moving around the ring bobbing and weaving. He was standing in one place bobbing back and forth which made it hard. The difference between Trout and Floyd is that Floyd is much quicker. There are many other things but Floyd is much quicker and that head movement standing in one place will not help Canelo. Once Cenelo heard he was up on the score cards he was not really going after Trout like he was the first 4 or so rounds. All those wide looping off balance punches he was throwing at Trout at the start of the fight will cost him against Floyd.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:29 am 


Q

PEEJ: Glad you’re not in the twilight zone with some of these other characters. It’s really tiring reading some of the stupidity.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:26 am 


spartacus 65

Adrian, public enemy, Bulger ,shout out to you guys. Peace.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:26 am 


Rem

Q wrong bro i already said that i only wanted Pac and Mathysse in these last 5 fights and that Canelo was to big. Ive also given Floyd credit for taking this fight and have said that he loses no stock with me if he loses. Im an objective hater lol. But ive always said that an A level southpaw has a great chance of beating him and him fighting Canelo but not Martinez or Pac gives my theory credibility.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:24 am 


TARK

Floyd…, “I don’t want to fight a guy at a catch weight. Give me a guy at 154, who is solid, who can eat, who can feel good…who can go out there and perform at his best.” … That was a knock on Pacquiao of course.

Do you think Canelo beat Austin Trout, a superb boxing 171-pounder—who actually got tagged less by Cotto than Floyd did—because he was bigger and stronger than Trout? Canelo is an excellent boxer who made Trout miss a high percentage of his shots with very clever head movement. All the big shots missed. The taps Trout was able to land carried little leverage or force. Canelo was able showcase his defense and speed.

Trout…, “Everybody tells me the fight was closer than the scorecards. The better man won. I was surprised by Alvarez’s speed and strength. His head movement and his overall boxing skills are great. He’s more skilled and quicker than the man I prepared for. I was shocked. His right uppercut is very sneaky. I prepared well for it. I was aware of it, but he’s fires it with perfect timing and he’s the best I’ve met. This will be a tough fight for Floyd. Alvarez will pose problems. I can’t say who will win it. I plan to see it.”

Posted June 5, 2013 12:21 am 


PEEJ

If Floyd had no power then people would just run up on him with out a care in the world. But that is not what they do, they have to think because when Floyd starts tagging them they know it does not feel good and they don’t want to get hit to much because sooner or later they will fall. Plus its the punches you dont see that hurts the worst and Floyd is the best at delivering those

Posted June 5, 2013 12:19 am 


spartacus 65

Guys listen up. This fellow Q, dont waste your time with him. I can read between the lines with him. I got his number. There is a name for someone like him. No need to go into detail. And I know you definitely read my long post Q. He is the equivalent of those people who believe that president Obama is a communist. Different topic but most definitely the SAME mentality. Gentlemen we ALL have valid points. Just don’t cross the line over into FANATICISM. HERO WORSHIP. Disagreement is good. Makes for constucti e conversation. Predisposed outlooks DON’T make for good conversation. Rem,, Hidalgo, correctomundo ,etc…Good observations fellas. You too sredmon. Peace and strength .

Posted June 5, 2013 12:18 am 


Hello it’s me CHARLIE !

Cinnabon kiddy kid will win against Mayweather. I promise. I TOLD YOU SO ! It will happened. BET ON IT THE CINNABON KID !!!!

Posted June 5, 2013 12:17 am 


PEEJ

And Arum never wanted Cotto to fight Floyd plain and simple. I find it so funny that you have to sign with Top Rank to get a crack at Pac. As soon as Cotto left Top Rank he got an immediate fight with Floyd. That speaks high volumes. Just like Pac now demanding drug test when he has no chance at fighting Floyd. When they where talking about it he wanted nothing to do with the drug test but now that nobody cares he wants the test. Things that make you go hmmmmmm

Posted June 5, 2013 12:09 am 


Rem

Q It was suspected that Cotto was weak at 140 from the weightcut and that was y those shots hurt him but in the end ur right he was always vulnerable to the left uppercut. However i still believe Floyd has no power the guy hurt his hand worse than he hurt Guerreros face.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:07 am 


Ray

Wait, till September, Canelo wins! Not because of his weight. Everybody thinks that Canelo coming in heavy will give him the edge. Nope. People underestimate him. He has good head movement, good combos, power and youth. It will be a good fight.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:07 am 


PEEJ

Actually Cotto was rocked a couple times at 140, and 147 and was only rocked by Floyd at 154. So his punch resistance got better as he moved up.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:06 am 


Q

Rem: You’re just one of those endless numbers of people who LOVE to bite at the toes of the BIG CHEESE, like RATS. 154 wasn’t a fair weight for Cotto but it was a fair weight for FMJ? whaaaaaaaaaa? Cotto had been at that weight a long time, was a champion at that weight, and was acclimated at that weight, Floyd is the man who CAN NOT make that weight and who is SLUGGISH at that weight, NOT Cotto. I say that was the Cotto with the best chance to beat FMJ for many reasons, another now that you bring it up is that it was BASICALLY a bout with a WW in FMJ against a man in Cotto who you can call a WW but then he didn’t have to make weight, jaja. Oh, great example from Cotto, win 2 rounds against a man out of his division in all manners and off an 8 month layoff. aajaj. Martinez isn’t a fair weight for Floyd, but then you say Canelo is a 170 so it’s the same just depends on who he fights? So then you can just pile on the praise for FMJ for fighting a young man at a weight that’s not fair for him? Oh wait, and if Floyd loses you’ll come back talking about Floyd being 36, 14 years older in at an unfair weight? No you won’t. You’re FOS.

Posted June 5, 2013 12:02 am 


Rem

Them to light.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:56 pm 


Q

Meanwhile, Margarito got his “just desserts” from SSM in that stoppage loss that Margarito NEVER looked anything impressive after (including after his layoff).. the Mosley that fought FMJ in the NEXT fight when Mosley was champion (his belt wasn’t on the line against FMJ) the Mosley that beat Margarito the NEXT FIGHT AFTER what he did to Cotto, then the fight before FMJ.. you guys just LOOOOOOOOVE to try to crap on FMJ, but you just can’t consistently come at this man, he’s just too good for your games. You always end up biting your tongue and writing in circles. Just GIVE IT UP. Go to sleep man.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:55 pm 


Rem

Q Cotto was just an example of what would happen to Floyd when he fights the elite at a fair weight because Cotto is a ww hes not a jmw under no circumstances whatsoever. Martinez isn’t a fair weight for Floyd but him agreeing to fight a 170lb Canelo shows me that hes still very leary of an A level southpaw. Pac and Martinez would’ve grossed big #s. Floyds great but seems to have his limitations and im hear to bring then to light.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:54 pm 


Q

REM: “but a prime Cotto would’ve never been buckled by a Floyd punch” – ooooh you’re going to hang your hat on THAT? Who else had Cotto out on his feet at 154? Not one of the other 154 pounders he fought, not Trout…. MAYWEATHER did that, that’s because Mayweather has sneaky power, and he can at some point catch and hurt these guys. Castillo admitted after one of his bouts with FMJ that Floyd hurt him with a punch, Guerrero was going at one point (the guy who ate Berto’s BEST BEST uppercuts like candy and continued to beat his eyes in… although both their eyes were hurt by the end). Oh… but wait… you’re going to hang your hat on that, when Cotto was jelly legged by Judah and Corely years ago? You guys don’t no a damned.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:51 pm 


Q

Adrian: Many people trainers and such, people really experienced in boxing thing Cotto was as geared and in his best condition ever for his bout with Floyd. The fact that you guys won’t to deny that to minimize Floyd is YOUR problem, but you have no way of PROVING otherwise, just as a technically have no way of proving what I say, nor the trainers and such who agree with ME. I personally think that Cotto had his best chance to beat a FMJ against the version he fought. 8 months layed off and at 154 about to go to prison and fighting with his dad mid camp. Cotto lost what? he was fighting a BOXER from a lower division, that’s not one of those fights where you even talk like that. He just had to do what he tried to do with his tremendous trainer. He had a GAME PLAN, instead of fighting without a trainer like against some people. That was Cotto’s best shot and his best shot was 2 rounds. Move on.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:45 pm 


Rem

Spartacus great post on Cotto i feel the same way and of course Q is gonna try to sell the version of Cotto that made Floyd nod his head in approval as the best version but a prime Cotto would’ve never been buckled by a Floyd punch by the time he fought Floyd he had lost punch resistance and his face no longer held up.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:42 pm 


Q

Rem: Exactly, these are guys who have all through there career put people on the ground and cut them up with jabs, and they had their jabs completely taken from them quick… and yes those ELITE jabbers, are the ONLY guys to have bother Floyd with a jab, and on NORMAL standards, it would barely be considered a bother, well.. Cotto’s because the FEW times he landed it, it did damage.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:38 pm 


Q

Rem: Jajajaj… the elite Cotto fought at an acclimated 154 against a FMJ going to prison and 14+ pounds lighter on fighter night off a 8 month layoff, while winning 2 rounds, or as you say 4, jajaja…. how beatable was that? Come on man, stop. Elite fighters don’t make elite fighter look beatable, if anything it should make him look like he had to try more to beat another elite fighter even with all the handicaps Floyd had in that bout… Cotto the elite fighter only got 2 rounds, 4 max according to you. Come on man, stop. THEN he almost gets stopped in the 12th round. What is this the twilight zone?

Posted June 4, 2013 11:35 pm 


Rem

Hidalgo i mean clearly the left jab was a problem its just that outside of those 2 lefthanded fighters i haven’t seen anyones jab bother Floyd. Thats y i attribute it to them being lefties but hey at the end of the day 2 great jabs did pose a problem.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:35 pm 


Adrian

Spartacus >”Im truly disgusted at what happened to that kid Cotto. Let me tell you. Ive been hit squaring up against some tough customers and vice versa. Defense is a MUST. THE shots that are the most painful AND debilitating are body shots. Headshots are numbing . You get dazed., Yoy dance around to ckear your head.Most times you can shake them off and regroup. Bodyshots are there to stay. Margarito could’ve SERIOUSLY hurt cotto with those damn loaded gloves. At the least he shortened that valiant young mans career. In combat there is a code of honor you should respect. Boxing,jujitsu etc… Margarito broke that code and he recieved his JUST DESERTS from Pacquiao. He still got off easy in my view. Hopefully Cotto has invested hus money well from his fights and he can go on to live a normal and content and HEALTHY life.”

You are absolutely right! Those of us who experienced boxing know what are you talking about …
And Q says cotto when he fought mayweather was the best version of himself he ever been …ouch

Posted June 4, 2013 11:31 pm 


Q

spartacus 65: I read your much shorter comment to Correctamundo…. and you’re off base… you’re like most FANS… I myself like to ANALYZE the game. The laymen will say “he abandoned” ….the ANALYST will say it was TAKEN AWAY. These men are olympic stand out child prodigy boxing champions who train and fight to WIN, they aren’t ABANDONING.. ANYTHING… they have it TAKEN AWAY. It’s irrational people like yourself who don’t give Floyd the credit he deserves and maybe other fighters because you see things in the completely wrong way. That shows me the different in my boxing eye and your own. You can only say something was ABANDONED, but I can tell you it was TAKEN AWAY. You can’t tell me it was taken away because you can’t grasp how it was done. And THAT’S the big different between what I write and what YOU GUYS write. Oscar’s jab was also overrated in it’s affect in that bout, just like Zab’s performance in the first 3 or 4 rounds… and southpaws against Floyd, and every little thing that has to do with Floyd and failure.. ajaj. Peace man.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:30 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“It’s a jr. middleweight fight not a welterweight fight.”-Well actually a 147 pound Fight is a Jr. middleweight Fight TOO by definition. DUMB DUMB….And compared to what Sugar Ray Leonard DID vs. Lalonde Floyd gave UP 5 pounds. DUNCE. And THAT was the point. THANKS.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:28 pm 


Rem

Correctamundo Zab had better rounds than Mosley Martinez was never even mentioned because Floyd had no chance of winning and Cotto clearly won 4 rounds and others were close.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:27 pm 


spartacus 65

P.s. Not a trout jab. Lol.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:25 pm 


Q

spartacus 65: It’s too late at night for me to read your post to me, I got passed a sentence or two, but I see that you just don’t get it. I don’t need to respond to whatever you may have written. I’ve spoken. You guys can carry on with your boxing fan chats. I’ll keep observing PROPERLY what I see in the ring. Goodnight sir.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:24 pm 


spartacus 65

Correctomundo greetings champ. I should have clarified what I meant when I said ACTIVE. Oscar pretty much abandoned it after six rounds as I believe it was you who correctly pointed that out. That keft must be pumping EVERY round. Double ,triple. Throw a soft one to blind the opponent and follkw with a stiff one to set up your right. Either head or body. Mosley threw a jab to the body which was meant to distract him a.d bring down his guard which opened hin up for that right. Of course any boxer worth his salt must use two hands. Hook off that jab to bring something more to the equation . Thats what Imean by active. The accuracy comes naturally with that through timing and sheer activity level. Hope that explains it. Peace brother.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:22 pm 


Q

BEARS: Haha.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:20 pm 


BEARS

Q noticed canelo was flat footed. Yeah, about as flat footed as mayweather. Apparently u didn’t see canelo drop trout. ( lol drop trout). It was a lead strait right ALL MOTION/MOVEMENT BABY!!!! Q you don’t know what your talkin about man.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:11 pm 


Rem

Wtf am i blocked

Posted June 4, 2013 11:11 pm 


spartacus 65

Im truly disgusted at what happened to that kid Cotto. Let me tell you. Ive been hit squaring up against some tough customers and vice versa. Defense is a MUST. THE shots that are the most painful AND debilitating are body shots. Headshots are numbing . You get dazed., Yoy dance around to ckear your head.Most times you can shake them off and regroup. Bodyshots are there to stay. Margarito could’ve SERIOUSLY hurt cotto with those damn loaded gloves. At the least he shortened that valiant young mans career. In combat there is a code of honor you should respect. Boxing,jujitsu etc… Margarito broke that code and he recieved his JUST DESERTS from Pacquiao. He still got off easy in my view. Hopefully Cotto has invested hus money well from his fights and he can go on to live a normal and content and HEALTHY life.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:07 pm 


Hidalgo

Rem, well-delivered, consistent jabs do bother Floyd. But he hasn’t had to deal with them very much lately. Alvarez is just the man to bother the hell out of Floyd.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:01 pm 


Hidalgo

“Floyd actually should have pulled a Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Lalonde and made Canelo put UP his belts at 147.” I don’t recall Floyd himself ever saying he wanted Canelo to come down to 147. Jr.’s daddy was yappin’ like an old coyote, about the weight issue, but not Floyd to my knowledge. Floyd didn’t give up “five pounds.” He didn’t give up squat. It’s a jr. middleweight fight not a welterweight fight. Try to remember that when you go betting. ROFLMAO!

Posted June 4, 2013 10:58 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

ACTIVITY is not the factor vs. Floyd. ACCURACY is the Factor. Floyd more accurate than his opponents and that’s why he WINS. Oscar was more active and Guerrero was more active but they both LOST. SO that left doesn’t need to be ACTIVE. It needs to be ACCURATE. And SO does your Right.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:57 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

IF WINNING 2 or 3 rounds can make you LOOK beatable then SURE they CAN. But IF WINNING at least 5 rounds makes you look beatable then they CAN’T DO it.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:46 pm 


spartacus 65

Rem once again , very down to earth and no nonsense ,clearly VALID point. That left has to be ACTIVE. Not one dimensional. Cool look brother.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:45 pm 


Rem

Spartacus yeah man had Floyd tried to use lateral movement it would’ve been wasted energy Cotto is excellent at cutting the ring off and Cottos great timing would’ve helped him land what he landed on even a mobile Mayweather. Floyds great but the elite Cotto, Pac and Martinez will make him look beatable.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:39 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Forget what bothers Mayweather and focus on what WINS rounds against him. Shane’s Right hand WON the most dominant round vs. Floyd. Not his LEFT.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:38 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez fights at 160, he can’t make 154. And well Pac as you already know didn’t want to take the test, the same test he is taking with Rios

Posted June 4, 2013 10:38 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Martinez got hurt or else he would have been next. Boxers who are SLOWER than Mayweather aren’t going to give him MUCH trouble. That’s why most of them can’t even WIN 3 rounds. Pac’s Defense was always TOO POOR to face the most accurate Puncher who ever LIVED….Rigo can beat Pac right NOW by SHUTOUT.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:35 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Canelo has one heck of a negotiation team. Floyd actually should have pulled a Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Lalonde and made Canelo put UP his belts at 147. Floyd ended UP budging 5 pounds and Canelo only budged 2. He out negotiated Floyd on that. At least he can take condolence in that. Oscar out negotiated Floyd TOO.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:32 pm 


Rem

Its not a jab that bothers Floyd its just a strong lefthand whether its Cotto and ODHs jab (both are lefthanded) or Zab and Corleys powerhand. This is y Floyd would take his chances against a 170 lb Canelo instead of Martinez or Pac both would’ve made a ton if “money” but were far more dangerous for Floyds style than Canelo.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:30 pm 


Brussel sprout

Get trumped.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:25 pm 


Brussel sprout

Canelo could get gassed out by Mayweather.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:24 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Canelo is out matched in speed just like Exiled Yank explained. Can’t wait to cash IN on the EASY money!!!

Posted June 4, 2013 10:18 pm 


spartacus 65

Ok Q, my friend. First things first. Bringing Marquez into this is NOT NECESSARY. TWO Bringing up this business that Cotto was the one who brought something to his trainers is just out if the loop. Those men did their job. They prepared thus kid the best they could and he did the best he could. Three once again because of your zealous,truly obsession with ALL THINGS Mayweather you go off ob tangents that have NOTHING to do with most times what was being said. You take a very adversarial tone and posture whena comment is made in regards to Mayweather that you percieve as some slight. I said very CLEARLY and as you correctly pointed out that Cotto had SOME success with his jab. It did not land with the frequency that some people said but it was effective. Fifth Mayweather DID AND DOES NOT HAVE THE WEAR AND TEAR AND MILEAGE cotto has. Mayweather has had the luxury of taking long hiatus from the rinf thus preserving his body. Cotto did not have that luxury. If you have been in a ring you might understand that. Cotto was a rehabilitation project who at that point through shrewd maneuvering landed a fifht with Mayweather. Now on a different note this THING you have with Mayweather is not healthy.Im bei.g seriius here. He is a sports figure. He,does not payyour rent or your mortgage. Pacquiao is a sports figure.,He damb sure doesnt do NONE of the above for me. Difference is if someone critics him I lusten and I either respectfully agree or disagree. I don’t take it to heart. I even criticize him myseld. Nkw the other feklas on this site may feel the same. They just don’t verbalize it. But take note. With me tou have the WRONG GUY to tryand belittle or browbeat. Now you can live this thing you live ALL you like. Im just letting you know this kindergarten stuff dont faze me. Bigger fish to fry brother. Take some time which you seem to have a lit of and digest that. Peace and strength.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:18 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Floyd can beat ANYONE though. He’s the ultimate CHAMELEON. He can adapt and has every SKILL at his disposal. That’s a hard guy to beat. The only way to beat him is to match him in SKILLS and Boxing IQ but trump him in SPEED. Judah showed that for a small glimpse. But someone has to be able to sustain it for 12 rounds and Rigo has the BEST shot of doing that…..I’d still bet on Floyd though. He just finds a way to WIN.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:17 pm 


Brussel sprout

Floyd will stink the joint out if he gets the runs against Canelo.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:13 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

You don’t WIN two gold medals without knowing how to handle lanky Boxers. Rigo can handle every style out there. The guy can move for 12 rounds and he has LIGHTNING speed….. Bob Arum is a FOOL. He says he doesn’t know how to sell Rigo. I’d be saying that I have the BEST Boxer on the PLANET. Big DUMMY.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:12 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: I know what you mean, it’s hard to think Rigo can lose, jaja… but I think I’ve heard he struggled a bit with a boxer type… which is rather common for counter punchers. I would favor FMJ just based on his longevity at this level through these weights, but I admit, that I don’t really see these guys beating Rigondeaux, and I thought for sure he’d beat Nonito, he’s just that good.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:11 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION…..As for Canelo he has a lottery shot…

Posted June 4, 2013 10:07 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I MAY be underestimating Floyd though. Now that I think about it his protect himself on the break SKILLS are BETTER than Rigo’s. IF Rigo doesn’t protect himself well on the break vs. Floyd he could get knocked out……As for Canelo has a lottery shot.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:05 pm 


Q

“Just not as much as I AM” – I know what you mean, I feel the same way to be honest, lol. Most of the “experts” haven’t ever been in a boxing ring nor trained for it. Most people SEE things happen in the ring but don’t know that the movements that the people make in the ring are on PURPOSE usually. They think the cookie is just crumbling, I can’t explain what MOST people THINK they are watching. That’s why we have people who ARE NOT CAPABLE, due to IGNORANCE, of admiring what FMJ does in the RING.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:05 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: That would be a GREAT P4P fight, however…. Rigo is also a PURE counter puncher, and they don’t always handle lanky boxers well. Floyd’s legs would trouble Rigo, IMO, but I also think that Rigo could build up his resume and get more of the credit he DESERVES. His resume is also BETTER than some of the guys they have in the Ring P4P list, since he DOES have another P4Per on his resume. MARES, has a good resume, but he’s not on Rigo’s level, and I HOPE that they fight, but at the weight Mares RAN from. I’m going to assume he RAN, but it was SMART of him because he can NOT beat Rigondeaux.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:01 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Well MY eyes are a little bit BETTER than the EXPERTS or “experts” but I still show them their respect. They are CORRECT most of the time. Just not as much as I AM.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:58 pm 


Brussel sprout

Floyd will be trumping when he fights Canelo.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:58 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: I’ve STOLEN your caps locks thing because I THINK it’s FUNNY and also EFFECTIVE. That said, I think that SOME of your caps locked sentences should have been in QUOTATIONS, like when you say EXPERTS. I BELIEVE it would be better as “experts” with OR without the caps. But yes, those “EXPERTS” shat the bed. Canelo is NOT P4P better than Rigondeaux, nor is MOST of the guys in Ring’s top 10 P4P, although WARD is up there in the top three with Rigo and Mayweather in MY opinion.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:56 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECTION…Rigo can TRUMP Floyd’s SPEED. The man has the FASTEST wind UP uppercut in the ENTIRE History of Boxing.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:53 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Rigo actually has the BEST chance to beat Floyd but the Fight will never happen. Rigo can match Floyd in Boxing SKILLS, Boxing IQ, and SPEED. HE actually should pull off the WIN. Floyd trumps him by RESUME though. SO Floyd remains #1 P4P.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:52 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: Hey, but I’d like to point out that I’m giving a “rough draft” of what I THINK will happen, but I do NOT underestimate Canelo’s possibility to overwhelm FMJ with size his good speed and strength for his size that he WILL bring into the ring. This IS boxing and that IS a scenario. The only thing WE try to do, or at least MYSELF, is CHOOSE the MOST LIKELY scenario, and that is Mr. Floyd Mayweather Jr. WINNING.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:52 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

The EXPERTS make errors but they’re FAR more accurate than most AMATEURS. Rigo is the #2 Boxer in the ENTIRE Sport. IF he faced Darchinyan like they SAY he IS then it’ll be a WIN by stoppage for Rigo.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:50 pm 


Q

Jajaja

Posted June 4, 2013 9:49 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Q is on the money TOO. All good posts guys. KEEP em coming. TARK is just trying to talk UP the LOSER.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:47 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: Cotto also had the same trainer that Rigo had in dispatching Nonito who was rated top 3 P4P. The TRAVESTY is that they place CANELO at 10 of the P4P while dropping Nonito OUT of the rankings and keeping Rigo also OUT of the rankings. That’s CLEARLY GOLDEN BOY playing games. Bradley is a TR fighting in the top 10, but he was in it BEFORE going to Top Rank, and Manny couldn’t be kept out of the top 10 P4P by anybody who wanted to at least FEIGN legitimacy. Everyone else appears to be Golden Boy fighters or neither GB nor TR, and it’s CLEARLY because GOLDEN BOY owns the RING website. That’s all I can imagine, because Guerrero was in the top 10 P4P before FMJ, so I don’t know why Rigondeux should not be.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:47 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Yup. Exiled Yank is on the MONEY. Easy Fight to predict. Floyd by UD. Take Floyd or take the OVER on rounds. There will be no knockout here.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:45 pm 


Q

Really and truly, as someone here wrote before, I don’t remember who… Floyd was getting ready to fight Canelo a while ago… he’s not taking him lightly AT ALL, that’s why he was sparring guys in the 170′s. Did you all not hear Floyd Mayweather Sr saying that he came in and saw Floyd getting hit by the BIG guys, and said “no” or whatever. What do you all think he was sparring 170 pound guys? Guerrero was a TUNEUP while CANELO went out to EARN a fight with Floyd by becoming the RING Jr. Middleweight champion with his FIRST win against a TOP Jr. MW. He passed his test meanwhile Floyd got in 12 SHUT OUT rounds, and they can NOW clash. With Floyd back in the ring in 4 months instead of 8 or 12. YES he has consistently pulled it off, but it does NOT help this 36 year old fighter to be taking that amount of time off. I though he could have been better in a FEW of his last fights, but he WAS on point for Guerrero, and he WILL be as much on point as he can be against Canelo. Believe that.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:42 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

The Cotto that showed UP for Mayweather was the best version EVER. His Defense had NEVER been as GOOD in his LIFE. But it was MUCH worse vs. Trout who he underestimated. He actually turned down a $13 million rematch vs. Mayweather for the Trout Fight where he made abut $8 million. In HIS mind he’d rather take the $8 million WIN than to take the $13 million LOSS. BAD gamble. Underestimated Trout.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:41 pm 


Q

WIN.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:35 pm 


Q

Exiled Yank: I will say that although HEAD TO HEAD Canelo brings in NO advantages of any note besides size and youth, he IS a good fighter and DOES have his talents which SHOULD be HELPED from being SO MUCH bigger. That said FMJ is just SO MUCH better, and I WILL have to go for FMJ to DO what he DOES.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:35 pm 


Q

154 is where Oscar arguably beat SSM in the rematch (under FM Sr. – current trainer of FMJ) and where he stopped Vargas (also under FM Sr. …the current trainer of FMJ). Floyd is ALSo fighting for the SECOND time in a year, so he WILL be sharper. Floyd was out for EIGHT MONTHS and moving UP to a weight he does NOT belong to fight a guy already ACCLIMATED to that weight who is an ELITE fighter as you guys say, with a looming PRISON stint and no communication with his father, and he STILL won 10 of 12 rounds… and you want to insult him for that? You’re drunk, gtfo.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:32 pm 


Exiled Yank

Q has the beat. Canelo brings youth and weight to the fight and little else. I’m not hating on Canelo, because I said before the Trout fight that he has the makings to be special, and I still think that, but FM is going to be too much for him. Canelo does throw combos and he showed solid defense against Trout, but FM’s speed is going to shock Canelo and his accuracy is unheard of. I expect a good fight, but I also expect FM to do what he does best. As for fighting inside or moving, FM will do both as he sees fit. Canelo won’t know from minute to minute what FM is going to do. Canelo is tough and FM will be at his best for this fight. I think he knows that Canelo is good and he will push himself to be even better.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:28 pm 


Q

PEEJ: I don’t know where people get this stuff from either…. but yes ODH has spread the nasty lie that his “age” took away his jab, no Floyd’s SKILL took it away, and it was ALSO an EXAGGERATED success with that jab if you go back and watch the bout. Meanwhile the success these jabbers had in SHORT ..and.. EXAGGERATED spurts, are from two elite jabbers with ODH also being a WIDE SHOULDER LANKY GUY fighting Floyd at his (Oscar’s) BEST weight.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:27 pm 


Dino

Floyd outsmarts Canelo, gets the win and continues on his road to GREATNESS, there you have it, get your cold drinks and chips ready. Watch the schooling take place.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:25 pm 


Q

Exiled Yank: Great assessments of what you see in the ring, you ARE correct, and your prediction DOES make sense.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:23 pm 


Q

spartacus 65: A. Cotto is NOT a better fighter than Marquez and Marquez was completely shut out. This being before he arguably beat Manny twice and the second by knockout at the 147 division where he STILL campaigns B. Cotto was arguably better than he EVER was against FMJ and BIGGER than he EVER was, and if you will emphasis a GAMEPLAN he did NOT have a trainer in the Manny fight that you PRAISE him for… so if you will boast on a GAMEPLAN you have to also say it’s the BEST gameplan Cotto may have EVER had given his trainer. And his brilliant gameplan only got him TWO rounds. C. Oscar won 2 rounds also, and Floyd was fighting a man who had fought at MIDDLEWEIGHT and had his BEST bouts as a Jr. MW D. I’ve seen ALL of Floyd’s bouts, and nobody “disrupts” Mayweather besides spurts in fights at JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT, maybe the STORY here is that Floyd is NOT a JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHT. And those two JUNIOR MIDDLEWEIGHTS won 4 combined rounds (Cotto is small but he’s has mass, where Floyd is just slower up there) E. Floyd’s GAME PLAN was flawed going in, because he’d BEEN saying he’d fight Cotto like that and win.. and he DID… and almost KNOCKED HIM OUT in the 12th round. F. The most trouble Floyd has been in in bouts has been against NON JABBERS… and winning 2 rounds is NOT impressive. ODH and MC fought PHYSICALLY DISADVANTAGED VERSIONS of FMJ… it goes both ways. That said CANELO is fighting an OLD FMJ going ABOVE his NATURAL weight, but Canelo does NOT have Cotto’s jab, so your point on jabs is irrelevant as it stands. Now let’s see if your hope will pull it off. Meanwhile Canelo P4P isn’t even in the top 3 of FMJ opponents.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:21 pm 


Exiled Yank

Jabs do bother FM, but he takes them away as soon as he gets the timing down. There’s a reason DLH stopped jabbing, and it has nothing to do with age, which is the lie the Golden Boy has been telling himself for years. FM changes on the fly and takes away his opponents weapons.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:17 pm 


PEEJ

I’m confused when people say jabs have always troubled Floyd. I guess it comes from the same line that Floyd always has trouble with south paws. But if you notice Floyd pretty much stayed in the pocket the whole fight. If you do that your gonna get hit. That’s just a fact. After the fight everybody dsaid Floyd has finally aged and that his legs where shot. He moved on Guerrero and put on a clinic and everybody says he was running. That’s how you know you are a great fighter, because people just aren’t ever satisfied

Posted June 4, 2013 9:15 pm 


Exiled Yank

Floyd will be inside Canelo’s head within 4 rounds and then it will be the same show as always. He will make Canelo miss, set traps and blister him with his speed. Canelo has youth and weight, but FM has every other advantage, especially endurance. This fight will be exciting and FM does stand to to lose if Canelo lands one or two well placed, timed shots (that FM doesn’t see coming), but in the end, I predict another convincing win for FM. When it happens, all the haters will say he cherry-picked the younger, more inexperienced fighter… which is the norm. Trout did lost the fight with Canelo, but he was giving Canelo some problems, I expect FM to totally befuddle him and make him second guess his every move. That’s how FM wins.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:14 pm 


spartacus 65

Q, Oscar is just doing his job. PROMOTING. Nothing more and nothiing less. Tje fight is a few months away and he is looking to kick it into high gear. The casual fans will be EATING this up until September. All of us ib this forum knows the deal. Peace and strength.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:14 pm 


spartacus 65

Rem, thank you. After all is said and done thank you for pointing out a very OBVIOUS FACT. MAYWEATHER WAS well trained for that fight. It had NOTHING to do with being off a bit from his game. Cottos braintrust had a well thought out strategy , cotto prior to beinf pummeled by the cheating disgrace Margarito , was an even BETTER fighter than the version that showed up for Mayweather. Still all things being equal this version implemented the plan he had worked on in training fairly well., While Q is correct in stating that the cotto jab did not land as much as one would think, it did disrupt Mayweathers rhythm. Cotto just due to wear and tear from brutal fights with Margarito and the beatdown by Pacquiao was damaged goods to a degree. Still you are spot on when you say THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ELITE FIGHTERS FIGHT. Something I’ve been saying ALL along. Too bad this was not a much fresher Cotto that squared up with Floyd. That would’ve been a far more compelling fight. Jabs HAVE ALWAYS MESSED FLOYD OVER. ame for Ali. These rype of fighters do not deal well with a world class educated jab . It disrupts their rythm. I’ve watched him for quite awhile. The jab can set up a lot of things for canelo. Particularly since he stated and im not suprised that he WILL look to set up real estate in floyds midriff. That’s what you DO with an older fighter. Delahoya and cotto were limited in their success because THEY were limited at those respected times in their careers physically. This kid is fresh,young and full of confidence. Lets see how this plays out. Very good observation Rem. Peace and strength.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:09 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

NO one has WON more rounds vs. Cotto in a 12 rd Fight. Enough SAID about THAT. Except that Floyd’s Defense is even BETTER NOW than it was THEN. WOW!!

Posted June 4, 2013 9:09 pm 


Q

Fight Aficionado: Cotto IS a pressure fighter and a bruising ring cutting off BULLY BOXER with a GREAT jab that HAS knocked people DOWN, not just a bloody nose. Canelo is NOT a pressure fighter/boxer breed like Cotto, Canelo IS a more flat footed front-back COUNTER PUNCHER who DOES have his technical flaws. Floyd PROVED that he still CAN pot shot and move around at WELTERWEIGHT, where he DOES belong, now if you THINK that Oscar THINKS that Floyd can’t do that in the ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY WEIGHT RANGE, then that means FLOYD was PURPOSELY brought up to a weight where they feel they WON”T have to deal with the BEST Floyd Mayweather Jr. but I’m sure that’s what they DO actually THINK. But I guarantee that Floyd will NOT “stay in the pocket” against a Middleweight, if nothing else Oscar is spreading BULLCRAP like this to put into the boxing world the IMPLICATION that Floyd thinks that Canelo isn’t TOO BIG for that, even though we all know that ALL Canelo has for FMJ is his SIZE, and Floyd will NOT purposely play into the strengths of Canelo.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:08 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

IF its in LA then I’ll BE there.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:04 pm 


Fight Aficionado

So nobody knows what’s up with Matthysse-Garcia date/venue eh? Who here has even attended a boxing matched, ever? An honest question, I’m curious.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:00 pm 


Q

Correcta: that’s also true

Posted June 4, 2013 8:59 pm 


Q

Meanwhile, Cotto’s STRENGTH has ALWAYS been BULLY BOXING, he has ALWAYS taken away the boxing of boxers and BEAT THEM DOWN… now you put that with a man who does NOT belong at the weight and WAS at least 14+ pounds lighter and the ONLY thing he could get was about 2 rounds. STOP exaggerating, and YES Floyd WAS fighting more sluggishly with a trainer with ailing health.. he WILL be prepared for Canelo, and if he DID fight Cotto again, it WOULD be easier… but 10 of 12 rounds is easy enough.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:59 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Marquez is BETTER than Cotto SO that’s called a DECLINE in Defense.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:58 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I think when Oscar says Floyd will stay in the pocket he means Floyd can’t run and pot shot as much as he used to, something the Cotto bout suggested. It’s not necessarily the ideal strategy against Canelo but Oscar thinks Canelo’s pressure will force Floyd to fight that way. If so we’ll have a decent action fight.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:57 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Well Floyd’s Defense WAS MUCH BETTER than Trout’s was vs. Cotto but it wasn’t UP to HIS usual standards. That’s why he switched trainers. Marquez only landed about 12% vs. Floyd and I think Cotto landed about 21%

Posted June 4, 2013 8:57 pm 


Q

Rem: At the end of the day Floyd won 10 of 12 rounds.. fighting this man at 154 where FLOYD.. IS slower and more sluggish. He IS a beast.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:56 pm 


Q

Let’s not say “if he fights the Floyd that fought Cotto” …the Floyd that fought Cotto is still Floyd… he’s the same Floyd that adapts on the dime (last I checked there aren’t many fighters with a jab like that in the sport, and Canelo isn’t one of them) The Floyd that fought Cotto would adapt and win.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:54 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I can guarantee you that Floyd isn’t going to stand in the corners and and lay on the ropes as much as he DID vs. Cotto. SO there’s NO reason to prepare for that. That’s called wasting TIME. Prepare for what the man is going to DO which is MOVE. IF he just takes MY advice and just focus on the Floyd vs. Marquez and Floyd vs. Guerrero Fights he’ll have a MUCH BETTER chance of WINNING.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:54 pm 


Rem

Floyd didnt lose defense for the Cotto fight he simply fought an elite champion and if they fought again the fight would unfold the same way. Floyd has never fought a ww higher than 4th Pac, himself and Cotto being #s 1,2 and 3.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:48 pm 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO: Well, I believe in seeing what went on in the fighters bad and good performances… so I’d see what Floyd did or what Cotto did differently that effected FMJ and if I could duplicate that with MY abilities. But I agree, Floyd was NOT sharp in that bout, however… Floyd was NOT hit with that jab flush as often as assumed… and I’ve just watched Canelo get jabbed in his face and hit with rights and lefts by FAR lesser fighters than COTTO let alone MAYWEATHER (the guy the shut out Cotto). Floyd will NOT fight Canelo that way regardless, because CANELO is a bit more massive than COTTO, so Floyd won’t even flirt with standing in the pocket against this Middleweight. HOWEVER… Cotto IS smarter and more shifty than Canelo. Canelo beat Trout from being too strong, too talented… and stylistically it was much worse for Trout than the smaller Cotto… HOWEVER… Canelo is STILL an in and out type who gasses and gets really flat etc… and COTTO is a more intelligent man at breaking down BOXERS… Canelo is a COUNTER PUNCHER… it’s a totally different thing for a few reasons. We will see what Canelo can do.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:41 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

TARK continues to point out that Floyd got his nose busted UP by Cotto’s jab. He never mentions that Mayweather’s Defense is MUCH BETTER since bringing back Floyd Sr…..but I didn’t EXPECT him TO. That’s why I’M HERE….I point OUT the CORRECT points that need to be mentioned when others don’t….IF Canelo expects to be facing the same Mayweather that Cotto faced then he’s sure to LOSE by SHUTOUT….But Canelo’s Boxing IQ is higher than TARK’s. He’s going to watch the Guerrero Fight and try to figure THAT Mayweather out NOT the stand in the corners and lay on the ROPES version that Cotto faced and still LOST to by LOPSIDED UD. He’s a lot SHARPER than that….IF Canelo expects to face the Mayweather that Cotto faced he has NO SHOT. SO don’t listen to TARK. Listen to ME…..Go and study Floyd’s movements in the Marquez and Guerrero Fights which are the two most recent Fights that Floyd Sr. had his imprints ON. IF you can figure out how to beat THAT guy then you’ll WIN….Sorry but you don’t get to face the version that Cotto fought. You’d WIN that one by knockout. TOO bad no one gets to see it.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:20 pm 


Q

Floyd’s trainers have just as much of an eye as I like to think I do…. Floyd’s gameplan will be lots of LATERAL MOVEMENT…. LOTS of FEINTS (you have to give counter punchers feints)… foot feints, hand feints… the Mayweather feint package… and offensively Floyd’s jab will reemerge here IMO. This will be one of Floyd’s jabbiest bouts I imagine.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:05 pm 


Q

or 11-1

Posted June 4, 2013 7:59 pm 


Q

Yes, they were standing in front of eachother literally still for about 10 full seconds, Trout was just standing there, got lazy.. got tall…. right out in front… Canelo threw a little jab… Trout got lazier (I guess he got arrogant, like yeah I’m not affected by no feint)… then he kept standing there and Canelo threw a normal one-two, and caught Trout who looked to be trying to throw a lazy jab while standing rather tall and squared. I don’t know what movement you’re speaking of in that knock down. Nobody was moving at all, lol (which is why that happened)

Posted June 4, 2013 7:35 pm 


Q

BEARS: I was watching his bout with SSOldsley, and he’s doing more or less the same here with trout. He gots right back left back… right back left back, and tries to combo counter you coming in. And I don’t know what YOU were watching but it was NOT all movement when he hit Trout with that right hand (he was trying to land the entire fight) he was in his same front-back rhythm, and Trout was just standing there playing his game and got caught with a right lead (Trout was actually just standing there at the beginning of the round relaxing as he waited to see if Canelo would do anything).. go watch it. 2:50 of the 7th round. NO movement at all, jaja. That’s WHY Trout got caught. He was standing in front of canelo a good 10 seconds, then threw a lazy jab standing rather tall. He got really lazy, and that’s what happened. I don’t know what YOU were watching actually.

Posted June 4, 2013 7:30 pm 


Q

I see why Canelo gives guys troubles. He’s flat footed heavy on the front foot, but he attacks quickly as you walk on him, and he lunges to catch you if you back straight up. He’s lunging off his right leg to land rights, and he’s lunging off his left to try to land lefts to end his combinations… so when he’s fighting this much weaker men physically and he’s also quicker, he throws them off balance with all of this. Through this first round with Trout, Canelo still lunges to land, but he’s also quicker than Trout, and heavier. Trout won’t commit with anything and doesn’t have the power anyway, so he’s not committing. It also seems that his southpaw stance is hurting him here… he’s lined up for that right hand of Canelo (which is all Canelo is waiting to throw) and with being also slower, against Canelo’s timing, Trout is really reluctant to really punch through real real shots, and to let go of his left hand.. he’s flicking a lot up top. Canelo on his end lunges still, but in the first round is missing really badly with that. I think an orthodox fighter with pop and a good jab and in and out (left and right) movement will be more problems. Canelo’s hands are low here… but he’s swinging his punches up like trying to chop the top of a tree… but the trajectory is low… I can really see him getting tagged quite a bit with this style… defensively… Trout is just extremely non aggressive and not that accurate here (nor was he against Cotto for the most part, but he was bigger) Trout lands a nice Left hand, the first I remember him throwing, jaja… hmmm, Trout touches him with straight punches, definitely to the body. Trout is circling the wrong way then he moves but he stops and lets Canelo set to play his front back front back game… but I’ll give Canelo credit… he moves in a direction with you to where you’re tempted to stop but he sets his feet fast. Overall uneventful bout. Trout should be moving to Canelos’s left and throwing that left hand to Canelo’s gut… consistently. Canelo’s languishing on the ropes and ducking around, but his feet are still and his body is more or less squared…. ok ok… yeah. Floyd can do this.

Posted June 4, 2013 7:25 pm 


BEARS

“He always stops and plants before punching” dude what have u been watching? When canelo dropped trout (lol “dropped trout) it was all movement son. Obviously u don’t know what your talking about. I topped reading your post at that point

Posted June 4, 2013 7:11 pm 


RolandoMota

Another boring 12 round UD for Mayweather, Mayweather will only go toe to toe with Junior welterweights. Who is the crossdresser trying to fool?

Posted June 4, 2013 6:42 pm 


Q

Canelo is beating up SS Oldsley…. but I’m noticing that Canelo ALWAYS is set before he punches. He always stops and completely plants his feet before punching… what he’s good at, is coming forward while punching, so you really have to get out of the way. He’s a bit heavy on his feet… he has good timing, not bad speed and he can “walk” on his combos even though he always tries to set before punching… he’s not a guy that moves and throws punches on the move, those feet PLANT every time, going back or forward. His gift is going from offense to defense quickly.. that’s a great characteristic.. but he clearly plants before throwing… he has a squared stance so straights are best, and when he REALLY goes defensive, he really just leans and moves out of dodge without even thinking about offense (he’s not offensive active in those moments at all.) Other than that he’s heavy on the front foot. In these later rounds Vs. SSM ..he’s beating on him, but he’s slowed down. The slower and much less massive mosley, is playing into his style (Mosley is also way past it and hasn’t beaten anyone in years at this point) Shane doesn’t have the legs nor size for this… he can’t take advantage of Canelo being front foot heavy… he’s younger stronger and quicker. Last two rounds, then I’ll see a BIT of Trout Vs. Cotto… FMJ Vs. Cotto.. and Trout Vs. Canelo.

Posted June 4, 2013 6:38 pm 


Q

By the way, I think I’m even better at in fight predictions, when all of the variables are playing out… I can predict how it will likely play out within 2 rounds. The variables in the Mayweather fight will include, Mayweather’s mobility and ability to hit and get out of dodge at that weight against Canelo (who does throw quick counter combos) and if Canelo’s weight will offset Floyd’s ability to get respect, and allow Canelo to be more free with counters and such. Which punches are landing… which are coming close, why it’s not landing flush, who’s coming closer to doing what they want… etc. After that is shown in the first 2 or 3 rounds… that’s when the best predictions can be made. I give FMJ the edge, but there are some things that can occur to make it difficult for Floyd, that will be answered in the first round or so. Floyd will have to feint a lot, what I see in Canelo is that he gets sloppy coming forward. He’s KIND OF like Manny in what he REALLY likes to do, which is get you walking at him, then countering with that left hook and quick combos (I guess it’s Freddie’s style, because Khan was at his best with that style).. but yeah… Canelo isn’t as good coming foward… he’s best with step back counters, and when YOU come forward. This CAN be a problem for him PROVIDED that Mayweather can tag him.. make HIM come forward, then get out of dodge.. it would take Canelo completely out of his game even with his size. Canelo’s counter speed is his key. If Floyd is sluggish enough… and Canelo is FAST enough, with on point timing.. he has the size to really try to let’s say… put Floyd in the blender off potshots. The GOOD news, is that Floyd is about his height and is listed with the same arm length. Canelo does get hit with jabs… I’m watching SSM Vs. Canelo, and Mosley is not a jabber but a flicker, and he’s constantly tapping canelo in the face with that. Go watch the last 30 seconds of the 4th round of Canelo Vs. Mosley…. Mosley lands a perfect right hand lead and leaves Canelo punching at the air. His offense is nice out of his defense, and THAT’s what gets these smaller guys.. and he is always bouncing back and trying to counter, so he keeps you off balance. But he has a rather wide guard if you attack him while he’s moving sideways or coming foward. Ok, I’m going to actually take the time to study some film on Canelo. Jajaj.. Then I’ll get back to you all.

Posted June 4, 2013 6:09 pm 


Q

MannyKnowsPEDS: I think people are mistaken if they think Canelo won’t try to come in in his upper 160′s (unless he wants to try to prove a point, then he’d come in as low as possible) but you have to ask yourself, does Canelo really need to come in weighing lower to have a better chance? if you say YES, then there is another question.. Do you think Canelo was slower at 172 against Trout than he was at 164 against Lopez, or 167 against Mosley? I’m not so sure I’d say he was. He carries the weight fine, and he could very well come in over the catchweight, but more over, he could definitely opt to come in at the upper 160′s on fight night (or in the 170′s again) since he doesn’t lose anything there, and looked strong. Rather he’ll miss the catchweight on purpose… who knows, it wouldn’t surprise me. He can’t compete with anything but his size (and how that enhances his physical ability against a much more brilliant fighter in a FMJ). Speaking of Manny Paquiao, I find it weird how he strung together lackluster performances after the testing allegations, however… styles make fights…. he made his name from JMM/MAB/EM (9 bouts).. and some would argue that he lost 4 of those 9 (6-2-1 on record). His big wins are against mainly come forward fighters. Cotto is his biggest win, it was great, but Cotto was ALWAYS a sucker for straight left hands and left uppercuts (he was almost stopped by Judah and Corely both in the first couple rounds from these shots)… then he fights guys who can move more or guard better, and the fights are more dull, less special. He ends up getting stopped by JMM, but he’s been struggling with this man for 10 years. He may have lost a step, but it’s also styles make fights. I won’t say he was drugging.

Posted June 4, 2013 5:44 pm 


malachi

Q`WOW good assesment dissecting that trinidad/mayorga/winky observation..yezzzir!

Posted June 4, 2013 4:48 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@ Q, Do you think Alvarez might think to hell with the 152 and come in at the junior middleweight limit? whats the penaltys for this I mean surely they must be severe?
I think Alvarez is way to slow but I see his guard being a problem to penetrate but down the stretch Mayweather is very good and stacking up points

Posted June 4, 2013 4:47 pm 


Q

You’re comparing Floyd’s RAW SKILL strengths, against other fighters HIS SIZE and bigger with there own strengths (from faster to stronger to more powerful punchers) …to Canelo’s showings, against guys who simply don’t have the power to make him have to actually EXPLOIT weaknesses. Canelo has gotten away with NOTHING MUCH MORE than exploiting that he’s bigger stronger, and even a bit quicker than his opponents. He’s never showed that he can actually exploit a guys flaws. That’s the big difference here, besides the weight. So yeah, let Canelo survive and coast against slower light punchers, and Jr. WW’s.. and praise him for it while criticizing a man who has beaten guys with various ADVANTAGES on a physical bases. It’s hard to explain this to you people… so I’ll stop here. Carry on. I put more into guys who press MENTAL advantages, than guys who simply press PHYSICAL advantages. For that reason, I doubt Canelo will ever ever be #1 P4P, unless some of these other guys, like Andre Ward, just disappear from boxing. Those are thinkers. Even after FMJ is gone.

Posted June 4, 2013 4:44 pm 


Q

SREDMOND: Exactly. It reminds me of when I watched Trinidad Vs. Mayorga, and thought to myself “wow, who’s going to beat this guy… he’s powerful” …then he fights Winky Wright and it’s a 12 round run away. Turns out that Trinidad’s STRENGTHS were on full display against Mayorga because… A. These were Trinidad’s strengths as they always were, and B. Mayorga additionally played into those strengths based on his specific style and/or limitations. Canelo is ALREADY a strong man at 154. Fighting 140 pounders, his STRENGTHS are magnified. IN Trout’s case.. Trout doesn’t have any power, and it allowed Canelo (gassed and all from body shots) to use his strengths (thicker stronger and quick enough to coast without worrying about anything dangerous coming his way). Everyone tries to impose there strengths, but the special fighters can also exploit your weaknesses… not just outdo you for strength and speed levels. That will be the difference when Canelo steps up. I think he can exploit Canelo’s weaknesses, without PLAYING INTO HIS STRENGTHS. Although being 15+ pounds of more pure mass doesn’t hurt.

Posted June 4, 2013 4:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Q, you’re right Lopez did
Land some sizzling blows MORE THAN 2 against Canelo but he was terribly outgunned at a weight he does not belong at nor never won at to my knowledge there was no way he was gonna be able to hurt Alvarez who is huge at 154… Trout was a big man but he’s not a puncher so Canelo was able to handle the incoming fire without incident..

Posted June 4, 2013 4:21 pm 


Q

TARK: No no no… Lopez couldn’t “raise a welt” because he was a 140 pounder. “landing bombs” was too mucho, since they didn’t have bombing effect… however he landed quite a few FULL CONTACT (you’re lucky this isn’t a big puncher your size) type shots, then Canelo just throws a 3 punch combo and drops him, he was just.. too… small. And what’s your point about SSM’s 30 bouts at 135? A. SSM in his PREVIOUS BOUT displayed the force and power in his shots to knock iron chin (and plaster glove) Margarito allll over the ring to a stoppage, with Margarito on the canvas (and FMJ was near his mid 30′s). Don’t pretend that SMM didn’t pack a punch when he could land good at that point at 147. He didn’t have Floyd’s legs anything, although Floyd buckled BADLY, and it was like some magic force held him up. He went on to win just about the rest of the round and hold mosley to like 3 punches in the next round. SSM landed his best, but he wasn’t landing much of anything at all (this being a bigger man than FMJ) B. FMJ fought 27 bouts at 130….. so what’s your point? 5 years and 27 bouts at 130, and now he’s about to fight a Middleweight… so if you want to comment on things like that, then you also have to admit that Canelo is a bully, but I still pick FMJ to beat the bully. C. Trout landed plenty body shots on Canelo and took his energy… that’s a problem, Trout is a light puncher. D. Everybody get’s hit, that’s not the point, the point is Canelo was hit more than a few times against Lopez, and with clean flush shots, that’s a RESPONSE, to your comment about Floyd getting hit be a P4P tremendous jabber with a few jabs. Don’t turn it around. Canelo’s defense of NOTHING is on FMJs level, and he’s not too hard to hit to the body.

Posted June 4, 2013 4:12 pm 


Dino

Floyd will outsmart Canelo all day.

Posted June 4, 2013 4:05 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Guys on Twitter are saying Matthysse vs Garcia will be at Staples Center in LA on Sept 7. Anyone know if this is true? There’s no official GBP announcement on a date or venue let alone city. If it’s LA I’m flying down for the card…

Posted June 4, 2013 3:59 pm 


Anonymous

floyd is gonna knock this latino out cold he gonna bye bye

Posted June 4, 2013 3:57 pm 


TARK

Q…., You write…LMAO, “Lopez was landing bombs on Canelo with the left and right.” … He landed a few scoring punches. Not enough to raise a welt. The term “bomb” is over-the-top to describe the shots Lopez landed on the Cinnamon Kid — good shot is more like it.

A couple shots that Mosley landed on Floyd??? You could call them bombs. Mosley was 38. He fought over 30 fights at 135 and lower. He made Floyd’s legs do the dipsy-doodle all over the place. Floyd is the all time GOAT defensively and still gets hit with bombs.

You can point to a good body shot that Trout landed on Canelo. You can point to a right hander Lopez laned on the Kid. I can point to shots Floyd took. These were boxing matches. It’s a fight. You can be the greatest defender there ever was and get hit.

Posted June 4, 2013 3:26 pm 


SREDMOND

How do you Outland, bruise, and bewilder your opponents by “running” I did not see
Floyd emailing those punches from the other side of the country… Within that squares circle you gotta get to your opponent and if you CANT and he’s hitting you then it’s because he’s a better boxer…

Posted June 4, 2013 3:19 pm 


The Best!

Mayweather has his dad back in the corner with him for the simple reason he is teaching him to run first then fight. I hope he doesnt fight like that against Canelo.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:34 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Spedmond is on the money like always lol

Posted June 4, 2013 2:21 pm 


SREDMOND

If presenting a superior command of the facts, argument coupled with incisive sarcasm brands me “an attacker” then Guilty as Charged Adrian…Do you expect me to lend credence to your homespun assertions about the fight not even happening?? Are you part of Team Mayweather, Team Alvarez or Golden Boy?? Your simple mind will say “Anythings possible” but adults deal in probabilities barring an injury to one of the combatants this is going down in September.. It’s clear after all your sniveling and wormlike behavior you don’t even wanna see the bout…

Posted June 4, 2013 1:56 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Like Floyd or not, he is one smart mofo…

Posted June 4, 2013 1:53 pm 


Happyboy

Oh put a sock in it Adrian, take your lumps like a true keyboard warrior.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:52 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@Q = THE GREATEST FIGHT PROPHET OF ALL TIME!!

Posted June 4, 2013 1:47 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond Only thing that is proven here without a doubed is that everyone here knows you are obsessed floyed fan and attack everyone personally if they have a different oppinion about him!you are truly a sad case…

Posted June 4, 2013 1:24 pm 


Q

TARK: Canelo dropped who with left hooks to the body? Jr. WW’s? I’ve seen all of Floyd’s fights, and you don’t always have to be dropping people left and right with body shots to have a great body attack, and Floyd does have it. I’ve seen all his fights, and he has a great jab to the body that you don’t see, that helps to starch his opponents, and he has hurt and stopped people with body shots early in his career. He move UP against Zab, and completely destroyed him to the body to the point where he was completely useless to fight after 3 rounds, wouldn’t move his left hand anymore. Floyd’s body assault when he wants to use it, is sharper than Canelo’s …Canelo just goes well to the body off combinations. But I’ve never seen Canelo break a guy down like FMJ did to Zab to the body, someone his size. Floyd had just recently move UP to that division and was able to do that. And as far as combinations, once again, Canelo does it MORE, but Floyd has some of the most dynamic combo’s you’ve ever seen when he opts to use them. And no, Canelo doesn’t defend ANYTHING as good as Floyd. Floyd IS old now with declined reflexes, Miguel didn’t have to land many clean power jabs to get Floyd’s nose bleeding (Cotto has dropped fighters with good defense with jabs) I think the Cotto that fought FMJ would have landed more punches against Canelo for sure. Just like Lopez was landing bombs on him with the left and right at points, jaja.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:20 pm 


murderman

@ adrien-way too much money to be made my friend! His name is money! Fight’s on my friend! no way this fight doesnt happen!

Posted June 4, 2013 1:17 pm 


Mexican Crossdresser

It’s funny how Oscar always hypes up Mayweather’s opponents, I remember him saying Hatton had a great chance against Mayweather. He’s such a terrible salesman, I never believe him.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:15 pm 


Adrian

Murderman > lol …first of all I won’t make any escuses because there will no fight and if it happens and mayweather wins there will be no escuse by me BUT promise me not to make any escuses for floyed if the fight dosent happen because some of his new bs emerge ?

Posted June 4, 2013 1:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather slaughtered Guerrero when he stood in front of him like he did in the 11th round… Guerreros TACKY father was showing false bravado while his son was leaking blood all over the place… Interesting watching him getting sewn up in his dressing room… Basically all guys end up begging Floyd to put his hands down and give them a chance and when he does they are miffed when it’s a ruse to trap them and cruelly counter them…

Posted June 4, 2013 1:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian has proved himself utterly ridiculous and more enamores with Floyds scrot
Than boxing… Now the fights NOT gonna happen? When it has been announced , weight agreed on, and financials worked out? Both sides confirm this reality yet “Twits” like Adrian shift into conspiracy mode because FMJ is matching towards crushing this kid and he and his crew are gonna have to find a NEW pseduo-antidote to the Floyd conundrum..

Posted June 4, 2013 1:08 pm 


Martin “EL BRUCHADOR” Honorio

Mayweather will stand in the pocket? And trade with Alvarez? What’s De La Hoya smoking now?? Give me some of that stuff—- it must be gooodd. I still remember and it still ringing in my ears—- the screaming—- done by Guerrero’s father, after the fight to Mayweather. he screams —-” YOU PROMISE A SLUGFEST!! YOU PROMISE A SLUGFEST!!” —–

Posted June 4, 2013 1:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, we all know that Canelo likes to bring himself down to 154 when he could fight at 160??? Who’s fault is that? He has done so because it affords HIM an advantage over his typically smaller opponents which he deems worthy of the effort… He came in UNDER 154 last fight and beat his BEST opponent to date… When measuring Canelo shaving 1.5 pounds extra vs the 17 or more pounds he is expected to enjoy fight night this is a NO BRAINER to an intelligent fight fan..(again I Sony hold you to that standard of intelligence so relax)….Floyd has MORE physical obstacles to overcome than Canelo and all the writers are discussing the issue… The bout could have been at 147, but Floyd’s generous spirit and confidence have given the MUCH younger Canelo a SWEET deal which he will be unable to capitalize on but sweet nonetheless…

Posted June 4, 2013 1:03 pm 


murderman

@ adrien- just messing w u! But seriously dude you are straight tripping! Just dont make any excuses when canelo loses. Just get the next oppenent ready in your mind who you want floyd to fight next! Its all good friend

Posted June 4, 2013 12:58 pm 


murderman

@ adrien- please let me get high w u! lol.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:53 pm 


Publicenemyisdumb

Iron Mike Mosley was steroid free if he had been on his Roids that shot would have drop Floyd and he would have finished him off like he did Margarito

Posted June 4, 2013 12:50 pm 


Publicenemyisdumb

Oscar Floyd is going to run like a Chicken or in late August he’ll fake a rib injury like he did with Pacquiao than start demanding 150 pounds or no more than 160 pounds after rehydration

Posted June 4, 2013 12:49 pm 


IRON MIKE

Canelo’s only shot will to be land one like Mosley did ,and capitalize on it, Mosley was done after 4 minutes of fighting and like SREDMOND pointed out went into survival mode. Also Canelo has shown us that even when he has a man hurt in front of him he don’t really know how to finish him off, Canelo’s chances are slim and nil and slim is out of town.-peace

Posted June 4, 2013 12:49 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond . didn’t you say just before the fight was announced that Canelo bearly makes 154 pounds?? So you want to tell me now those two pounds are not important??? Lol as usual you change your position whatever it sutes mayweather e?
Let me tell you what I think ,

This fight will never ever happen I can promise you that
Because it will be mayweather who will start with somekind of his knew demand or accusation or new demands and you know why ? I tell you why, because mayweather is not sure he will win this fight because Canelo is a live opponent and history tells what mayweather do when he is not sure he will win and when he don’t want to fight he avoids them just like with paqiao and than his fanboys will “assume” Canelo would have been easy to beat anyway and there was no need to fight him ….

Remember this you heard it here mayweather vs Canelo will never happen!

Btw I would give the edge to mayweather in both fights against PAC and Canelo but the guy when he is not sure he will get a win he accuses the world just to avoid those fights .

Posted June 4, 2013 12:47 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Alvarez has no chance in hell cant wait though Showtime piss all over Lampley and hbos drizzle

Posted June 4, 2013 12:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, as usual you’re wasting time!!! You should be prepping your excuses for why Canelo lost and manufacturing the next opponent at whatever weight class you dream of to defeat him… This is simply a game, Canelos the guy everyone wanted, and like the rest he’s gotta face the music…This is an EASY fight for Floyd which I believe is gonna be physically harder on Alvarez than people think…

Posted June 4, 2013 12:34 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Always preffered jones to Bhop both greats but Jones was so un orthodox nobody could match him til he was 34 and tarver was hungryier

Posted June 4, 2013 12:31 pm 


SREDMOND

I love Hopkins but during their relevant primes Roy Jones easily handled BOTH Hopkins and Toney… All this revision about how Jones should have fought is ridiculous Jones was rightful “Fighter of the Decade” till he got caught and never really recovered.. He ruled LHW for years and got every belt known to man, he made his opponents look like complete fools which is a special talent when you face World Class boxers and HOFers….
Mayweather has that SAME gift, the ability to box on a level his opponents have ONLY seen on videotape and are grossly underprepared for when they hit the ring…

Posted June 4, 2013 12:29 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

SREDMOND GOT BIATCHD BY GONZO u still hating on everyone girl???

Posted June 4, 2013 12:28 pm 


Adrian

Murderman >”whats with the catchweight? how can 2 lbs make any difference? Canelo will be 160-170 still fight night and still strong and powerful prob not weight drained. floyd will win ud but will take some punishment”
If it wouldn’t make any difference than why ask for it ?
2 ponds makes a big difference my friend especially if the opponent that has problems making the weight at certain weight and than losing extra 2 pounds more it could a huge impact …mayweather was biger than Marquez and he still didnt come at the weight he was supposed to be In The weigh in ,do you think he was just lazy and didnt bother to train ? No my friend he didnt jeopardize his power …

Posted June 4, 2013 12:28 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@ SREDMOND GOT BIATCHD BY GONZO Bed time soon mommy gonna shut internet off and stop your pocket money for hatin

Posted June 4, 2013 12:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Hopkins is a GREAT fighter and he’s still adding to his legacy at 48, Floyd’s is an undefeated ATG and that’s impressive to say the least… The best approximation of Floyds dominance was Roy Jones up till 35 or his first 50 professional fights… We are discussing guys (FMJ and Jones) who barely lost rounds over MORE fights than SRL yet at 36 Floyd’s still on top of the game… Jones was taken out by a guy NOT regarded as Great at the time and who’s true legacy is a mixed bag…Mayweather is still spanking younger fighters and being called upon to leap the scales when retirements in his near future… He’s an enigma and more talented athlete than Hops who finds a way to win even is his latter years… Prime for Prime Mayweather is flawless something almost NO fighters great or otherwise can claim..

Posted June 4, 2013 12:24 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

on the money spedmond agree 100%

Posted June 4, 2013 12:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelos job is to try and land a BIG shot that takes Floyd out of the fight… Trying to conjure up a game plan where he outboxes Floyd Mayweather or tactically bests him is simply impossible.. Canelo cannot box on Floyd’s level or even close, FMJ’s ALWAYS 10 steps ahead for all intensive purposes Alvarez is gonna be reduced to a glorified slugger for this contest.. He is stepping SOOOO far up in class it’s not funny… Depleted versions of Mosley and Cintron on losing streaks don’t prepare you for the package that FMJ is… Canelos gonna do worse in this bout than Oscar bank on that one…

Posted June 4, 2013 12:15 pm 


mjcole

Haimat – Stop nut huggin B-hOP – Roy Jones whooped ur boy if I remember the first time around when it counted, u stil but hurt after all these years

Posted June 4, 2013 12:14 pm 


Haimat

LOL all the fan boys ranting on. Floyd ain’t close to anything reminiscent of “greatest ever”. He missed that boat a long long time ago.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:06 pm 


Pinhead

Floyd is not the best fighter in the world, he is the best at wining boxing matches, and he is that good at it that all of his fights are no more than sparring sessions, we are witnessing the greatest ever. Alvarez will not get stopped though…..how can he, but he will go the same easy as most of FMY opponents, left very frustrated and bemused. Alvarez will not land on Floyd even if he falls asleep, he will look frantic and ferocious at points but no damage will be done. Floyd ……no matter what you think, is up there as probably the best athlete in the world with a brain to go with it……(in what he does).

Posted June 4, 2013 12:01 pm 


Haimat

that’s just ignorant stuff from boxrec.com. Come on man! B-Hop never got KTFO by anybody. He’s taking on the toughest guys for the last 20 years. Your reasoning su*ks. Your view su*k. Floyd has been cherry picking crazy his whole career. He’s a great fighter but don’t confuse him with dudes like B-Hop. You’ll get exposed.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:59 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

SREDMOND GOT BIATCHD BY GONZO speak about urself bro lol your so articulate with your prognosis lmao

Posted June 4, 2013 11:55 am 


Haimat

You’re dellusional. B-Hop is on a different level than Floyd. This dude is almost 50 and beating up the best in the world using old school stuff that nobody else knows better.

You keep on dreaming, Floyd stop Canelo… LMAO

Posted June 4, 2013 11:41 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

I think Floyd could seriously cut up Alvarez and force a stoppage

Posted June 4, 2013 11:35 am 


murderman

whats with the catchweight? how can 2 lbs make any difference? Canelo will be 160-170 still fight night and still strong and powerful prob not weight drained. floyd will win ud but will take some punishment

Posted June 4, 2013 11:35 am 


Haimat

LOL, “Mayweather stopping Alvarez down the stretch” when did Floyd stop or seriously hurt somebody last time? Not counting fat Ricky. Floyd is not stopping Alvarez. Wanna bet?

Posted June 4, 2013 11:33 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@ Haimat Are you seriouse bro?? Mayweather is in a different Universe to bhop. Alvarez has no chance in hell.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:33 am 


Haimat

Canelo will probably mess up Floyd but it won’t be enough to win. Floyd’s got some of B-Hops skills(not saying he’s as great as B-Hop) and will defeat young Canelo one way or another.

To beat Floyd, you need to throw more punches than Canelo. Could he increase his punch output and throw 4, 5 and 6 this just might go the Mexican way but I think Canelo is too young and inexperienced at this point to beat Floyd Mayweather.

Respect to both fighters for taking this fight at a catch weight that makes sense.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:31 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Alvarez gonna get whipped chopped up and cooked, Mayweather is the G.O.A.T Best there is best there was and best there ever will be. This is easy work for Mayweather I can even see him stopping Alvarez down the stretch.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:30 am 


JeffC

This should be one of the most interesting fight for a long time, full of speculation,Floyd certainly cannot be accused of ducking a dangerous opponent. Both these fighters are top notch, I think it really is, at this time up in the air as to who is going to win, it should and I say should be that competetive.

Posted June 4, 2013 11:25 am 


SREDMOND

Oscar chimed in for Canelo as expected so you might as well pick out Canelos coffin… Floyd’s gonna soften Canelo up, slow him down even more and punish him… He’s not gonna languish on the ropes or trade shots with a fighter who’s assets are his size and punching power…Whatever Canelo brings to the table Mayweather has seen before and he knows how to neutralize it… This is gonna be an EASY fight for Mayweather and one that ends even the slightest chance of FMJ’s detractors seeing him losing anywhere close to his best…

Posted June 4, 2013 11:17 am 


Boxer

De La Hoya trying to excite people and sell PPV’s. No way May will stand and exchange. This will be a marathon on his part.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:58 am 


PEEJ

I disagree. I thought Trout won by a round. But the open scoring made it seem uneventful. Canelo couldn’t fight for a whole round and Trout was. Even after the knockdown Trout got up and won the rest of the round convincingly. It reminded somewhat of the 3rd fight between Pac and Marquez. They didn’t want to mess up a Floyd vs Pac fight so they found a way to score it for Pac. Only difference was the fight was close enough that it could of went either way

Posted June 4, 2013 10:46 am 


TARK

This won’t be a boring fight. The Trout fight was a little boring. Canelo was so far ahead, and Trout was so ineffective attacking him, that there was no suspence. The knockdown shot was the highlight, and the only suspense was if Canelo could land another big one. That’s what happens when your opponent is 6′ X 171, super strong, super slick, and you have such a big lead, and such a good defense, that you make him lead and come after you … Not much.

Canelo can afford to come hard after Floyd. This is not going to be another boxing match but a seek and destroy mission. Canelo can get back to what he does best.

The Mosley fight was something like Trout. Canelo was way ahead, he didn’t have his man strength yet, Shane didn’t want to fight, he wanted to survive. He was happy to get through the fight without damage and collect another big paycheck. They should call him “Money” Mosley because he pulled the same game against Pacquiao. Marquez is an old man but he’s in there to win.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:32 am 


zera

FMJ will not stand in the pocket, he will only stand there if and only if Canelo cuts the ring wisely and not let FMJ get out of the ropes, by all means, I hope this fight will be competitive, i always say that it will be a close split decision enough for FMJ to win, this will give way for FMJ vs Canelo 2, this is what we call business people, BUT, this is boxing, anything can happen.

Posted June 4, 2013 10:01 am 


Happyboy

8ters and whiners ( hecdog, Bears, Hidalgo & the rest) better start making up excuses now cause Ginger is going down. Bears is going with Cinnamon as should be expected the other two have just been the usual hate and been whining so far nothing concrete but as usual after the fight we expect more bs from them. Mayweather by TKO11.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:41 am 


Dan D

Mayweather wins and fans will always moan because his fights are not competitive due to his style, but that’s the pinnacle of boxing and nobody is good enough to top him yet. Floyd will get to 49-0 an will then have one final fight after the Showtime deal ends and he will cash out big.

Posted June 4, 2013 9:12 am 


sweet_scientist

Floyd Jr WILL be SHARPER, STRONGER and better prepared for Canelo than he was for Guerrero because of Floyd Sr. Floyd by TKO!!

Posted June 4, 2013 8:47 am 


murderman

@ adrien – odh was still pretty good when he fought floyd at 154. Mind you that was odh best weight and floyds 1st time fighting there. The judges made that fight closer than what it should had been. Anyway hater floyd by ud! Idk why it sent anon

Posted June 4, 2013 8:18 am 


Anonymous

@ adrien – odh was still pretty good when he fought floyd at 154. Mind you that was odh best weight and floyds 1st time fighting there. The judges made that fight closer than what it should had been. Anyway hater floyd by ud!

Posted June 4, 2013 8:10 am 


Zoo

I think De La Hoya and Mayweather are a lot closer than people think. I think they work together and come up with plans to make the public buy into Mayweather’s vulnerabilities. The only thing is…..he does not have any.

Posted June 4, 2013 8:09 am 


Stop talking rubbish

“Mayweather will stand in the pocket against Canelo”.

What a load of rubbish. Itll be exactly the same Mayweather that beat Guerrero on points. Running all the time, throwing 1 punch at a time. De La Hoya can try all he likes to hype this fight up but Mayweather will simply old man Canelo out the fight.

Mayweather via boring 12 round points decision in Vegas….. nothing new there.

Posted June 4, 2013 7:57 am 


juggernaut

De La Hoya is just trying to sell the fight

Posted June 4, 2013 6:54 am 


RapidOne08

Lmao this is Oscars vision..lol man y does it seem like De La Boys has no boxing I.q.

Posted June 4, 2013 6:16 am 


Rich

All this garbage about in the pocket is because Oscar wants to sell more tickets and not end up out of pocket…..

Posted June 4, 2013 4:55 am 


Ray Ray

last comment was from Ray Ray by the way, dont get me mixed up with Anonymous

Posted June 4, 2013 4:53 am 


Anonymous

iv noticed when ever Mayweather is in a fight 3 months out most threads r pro 4 who ever hes is fighting, 2 drum interest I guess?. But the closer the fight gets the more every article favours Mayweather…..Alvarez will b the same, confident now but the closer it gets and after 6 rnds of the fight he and the guys writting these threads will have a diff opinion….Did rigo get hurt vs Denaire? Manny vs Oscar?

Posted June 4, 2013 4:50 am 


Second2Nunn

Every time I hear or read what Oscar has to say I’m more convinced that he’s a simpleton.

Posted June 4, 2013 4:21 am 


Agree with author

Fedor Emelianenko

Posted June 4, 2013 4:00 am 


lman

Sure oscar, and Hopkins is going to throw 100 punches a round and not follow through with his head in his next fight, James toney gets knocked out cold and retires, amir khan learns to defend and Q is not in love with Floyd.

Posted June 4, 2013 3:51 am 


Pubic Enema

te tumbo your so poetic with chore words !

Posted June 4, 2013 3:32 am 


te tumbo

“the only thing Canelo can hope to expose is that Floyd doesn’t belong above 147 . . . that he doesn’t belong fighting men that come in 168-172 pounds on fight night”. Q, then we Agree. any 150lb+ version of Floyd is tempting fate v. a bigger opponent like Canelo. matching his speed, reflexes, and conditioning v. a 23-year-old is enough of a challenge but to also challenge Canelo’s power? punch-for-punch? gut-check-for-gut-check? Floyd’s built for the speedway not demolition derbies. he gets caught up in one of those and parts will definitely begin to fly off the chassis.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:55 am 


Adrian

I though his name was Shane..no?

Posted June 4, 2013 2:45 am 


El maldito

Trout and Larry Mosley are poor mans mayweathers.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:40 am 


El maldito

Who has canelo beat and don’t say trout or Larry Mosley. Because he lost both those fights.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:39 am 


Adrian

Guys if Canelo comes mire than 20 p it dosent mean he will get more power actually it could be bad for him because he will lose speed ,to get maximum power he needs to be in the weight that is comfortable and that he don’t lose The speed !

Posted June 4, 2013 2:35 am 


TARK

Q…, I have Floyd as the GOAT.. Even with that I believe you are radically overstating Floyd’s skills. Nobody is that good. Everybody has flaws even though flawless is a frequently used adjective to hype boxers we’re excited about. There are a few things Canelo can do better than Floyd. One is the left hook to the body. Floyd never put anyone out with those, or even floored anybody. Another is the 1-2-7-3 combo, just something Saul has worked on more than Floyd. Another is he defends the jab a little better. I don’t think Cotto would reach Canelo with jabs worth a damn.

Floyd never faced anyone with a jab like that before in his life. He said, “Miguel, this was the toughest fight I ever had. You are the toughest guy I ever fought.”

Posted June 4, 2013 2:33 am 


Adrian

Canelo’s best strategy in my oppinion should be not to go after mayweather for the 2 minutes of every round he should conserve energy and make mayweather come after him that way mayweathef want be successful because he will be very cousious not to get hit by Canelo and than Canelo should go in attack mode with combination and hard shots in every last minute of every round and try to steal rounds by going in with a lot of combination even if he cant be sucssesful to hit mayweather he will leave impression to the judges that he is wining the round. I think this is the wining formula for Canelo !

Posted June 4, 2013 2:30 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Q-CORRECT. IF Canelo comes IN with a 20lb advantage or MORE on Fight night then that could possibly trump Floyd’s SKILLS. But I’ll still take Mayweather. Even a 20 lb advantage can be overcome. That’s why David Haye beat Harrison, Valuev, and knocked out Chisora.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:29 am 


Adrian

Peej> “PEEJ

If Oscar would of taken Floyd’s challenge when he was in his prime then he would of been beaten by Floyd much sooner. Instead he claimed Floyd was nobody until he fought him later. That’s Oscars fault. And the only reason that was a split decision was because it was Oscar. Floyd won at least 8 rounds”
Hahahahahahagahsha what are you talking about peej???

Floyed wasn’t was t in his prime but Oscar was in his prime when they fought ? Hahahahaha omg!!!!

Posted June 4, 2013 2:24 am 


Adrian

Q> “Adrian: Sturm and Hopkins are Middleweights, and Oscar destroyed Mayorga like you don’t see him destroyed, even though he tends to get his ass beat. That was quick and to the point. Oscar is also much larger than FMJ, and Floyd went UP to fight him no tune ups. Don’t cry for Oscar, his ass was not beat, but he lost clearly 9-3 IMO. At the best.” Lol 9-3 ??? Says who ? Judges ? I don’t think so pall hell even floyed se said after the fight to junior son you lost ,and you want to tell me he won 9-3 at least hahahahaha ….

I am talking facts here Oscar got a split decision and he was the aggressor now I am not saying he beat mayweather as I am not saying mayweather beat Oscar because there was ni fight there mayweather running and hitting very rare and is se chasing and throwing punches in the air and very early hitting that’s the fact but no one can say ” Oscar got his ass whooped by mayweather ” because it is not true at all and that’s why I replied to the murderman post!

Posted June 4, 2013 2:20 am 


hecdog

Mayweather is and should be the favorite, but don’t overly underestimate Canelo Alvarez. I watched some of his training recently, and I think he is going to surprise a lot of people. It’s not a false sense of confidence he has, he believes he can and will beat Mayweather. Canelo has to be on, and Floyd has to be off just a little bit. Everyone thinks it will be a cake walk, as I have previously thought, but after watching his training and listening to what he’s saying, I think he has a very good chance of beating Mayweather. His speed and boxing ability may surprise people. Remember, 90% of the fans in attendance will be Canelo’s fans. Things are getting interesting.

Posted June 4, 2013 2:14 am 


PEEJ

Difference is Floyd will be moving. He won’t be stationary for Canelo to land those 4 punch combos. Personally only chance Canelo has is a KO. And really Canelo is not the power puncher some day. Even whe he knocked Trout down, when Trout got up he dominated the rest of the fight

Posted June 4, 2013 2:08 am 


El maldito

The more pressure Floyd puts on him the faster canelo gasses. Btw, canelo ain’t no devastating puncher. Who has he one punched? Lmao

Posted June 4, 2013 2:06 am 


Prof Konje

What happened to what I just posted? This site is messed up.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:56 am 


Prof Konje

I believe that Oscar is saying that because he wants to add more drama to the fight. He wants boxing fans to really believe that Mayweather will employ that strategy. Both Oscar and Mayweather are too smart for that. Oscar to too smart to really believe that, and Mayweather is too smart to do it. As Smith mentioned, Mayweather will have his father in his corner and not his uncle Roger; two different guys with two different strategies.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:55 am 


Q

TARK: Go watch FMJ Vs. Judah if you want to see if FMJ can’t deliver body shots as well as anybody that’s ever did it… PERFECT delivery, left hook right hook right hand left jab.. to the body. Combo punching, FMJ is also superior, although you won’t be seeing that at the end of his career, but he can through some of the most dynamically unique combinations that you’ve ever seen. If we are speaking about who does what MORE OFTEN, then you can list those things, but if you’re talking about pure ability to do it, Canelo still falls short (although we won’t see any 7 punch combos from FMJ, it’s a defensive no no). Defense against a left jab? Going off how many bouts and against whom? Cotto has always knocked people around and done damage with his jab. (and it only took a couple flush power jabs to the nose to get it bleeding) Floyd is rarely hit clean with anything EVER… so that’s a misnomer that you’re listing. Canelo’s defense of nothing is on Floyd’s level, lol.. and I don’t care what logic you want to use. And I agree with you, 10-2 FMJ against ODH, but I didn’t want to come off too frank. Meanwhile, I’m not sure Canelo is this better fighter than ODH as you paint him…. ODH had his advantages as well over what Canelo does.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:51 am 


TARK

Mayweather had the better of DLH in 10 of 12 rounds in their fight… The only round that was a clear and convincing round for Oscar was the 2nd.. Oscar Had nothing going at all in that fight. He did no damage at all, and was out-punched by 85 connects. Floyd obviously landed the better shots.. Canelo is a much better puncher, especially with his right hand., His combos are faster and more accurate.. He’s more dangerous from any range with his straight right, something Trout found out about.

Q. writes, “Canelo is inferior to Floyd in every way in there without any question at all.” You can’t name skills where Saul has the edge???

How about Canelo’s left-hook-to-the-liver??? Pretty nicely delivered if you ask me… How about Canelo’s 1-2-7-3 combo??? Can Floyd match that? How about Canelo’s defense aginst the left jab??? Do you think Cotto would spread Canelo’s nose all over his face like he did Floyd’s???

Posted June 4, 2013 1:37 am 


Q

CORRECTAMUNDO – but something to consider is that Canelo has enough for his large size advantage to take over for the rest. Yes, he’s inferior to Floyd in every way in there without any question at all, but that doesn’t mean that he can’t have high levels of certain attributes himself (and he does) then you have to think about the fact that he’s fighting as a man who will have quick a big advantage in body mass. I think it’s 60/40 Mayweather…. BUT… with a chance of it becoming a run away, if Canelo doesn’t prove to be able to get away from Floyd’s accuracy and cut the ring off. If Canelo tries to fight in the middle of the ring as he likes, or if he tires and starts languishing on the ropes…. it can become a mismatch runaway.

Posted June 4, 2013 1:14 am 


Q

“Instead he claimed Floyd was nobody until he fought him later.” – that’s what Floyd was telling people, that those guys didn’t want to give him a chance back in the day, but now that he’s the cash cow…. they want (wanted) to come out the woodwork. and yes, Floyd won at least 8 rounds of that fight… although I’d say about 9

Posted June 4, 2013 1:09 am 


Q

“like POOR Lamont Peterson” – bwahahaha…..

Posted June 4, 2013 1:07 am 


PEEJ

If Oscar would of taken Floyd’s challenge when he was in his prime then he would of been beaten by Floyd much sooner. Instead he claimed Floyd was nobody until he fought him later. That’s Oscars fault. And the only reason that was a split decision was because it was Oscar. Floyd won at least 8 rounds

Posted June 4, 2013 12:44 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Very NICE matchup though. Canelo like Floyd is a Boxer who can Fight…unlike other guys who are Fighters but can Box. You need to be a PURE Boxer to even have a CHANCE vs. Floyd. The guy is VERY disciplined and won’t be lured into a slugging match like POOR Lamont Peterson. That’s why Matthysse will take a LOSS next.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:42 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Floyd’s been preparing for Canelo for a while now. He’s not stupid. He wasn’t even really worried about Guerrero. That’s why he was sparring vs. guys who were over 170 in his last training camp…..Floyd had already given Canelo his word that he would fight him after Guerrero he just wasn’t willing to sign a contract because that would be DUMB…What IF Canelo LOST???? Floyd doesn’t fight guys coming off LOSSES that’s why Pacquiao is out of the question…..Canelo’s real strength is his Boxing IQ. He usually stays ahead of the curve mentally in preparation for his Fights and he comes to the Ring with the necessary SKILLS to WIN…The problem IS that Floyd’s strength is his Boxing IQ TOO along with his SKILLS, and SPEED of course…. SO the Boxing IQ’s are going to be neutralized and the SKILLS advantage will still go to Floyd. Also the speed advantage will go to Floyd. Hand AND Foot…. After SKILLS and Boxing IQ, SPEED is the next important Factor in Boxing. Floyd has the edge in 2 of the Top 3 Factors in this Fight and that’s with me being generous by saying that Canelo can equal Floyd’s Boxing IQ….The next Factor is POWER and Canelo has the edge there. SO HIS game plan should be like Marquez’s WAS vs. Pacquiao. LOOK to set UP your dream Power SHOT. Most of the time that opportunity never COMES vs. Mayweather though…..In that case you just have to tip you hat to the BETTER man. He’s been Boxiing longer than you’ve been ALIVE….There was NO WAY that you were going to match him in SKILL level and he’s blessed with more SPEED. What else can you DO?? Whatever you DO keep your head UP. You couldn’t have LOST to a BETTER Boxer.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:38 am 


Q

Adrian: Sturm and Hopkins are Middleweights, and Oscar destroyed Mayorga like you don’t see him destroyed, even though he tends to get his ass beat. That was quick and to the point. Oscar is also much larger than FMJ, and Floyd went UP to fight him no tune ups. Don’t cry for Oscar, his ass was not beat, but he lost clearly 9-3 IMO. At the best.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:37 am 


Q

Adrian: hmmm… Oscar had to come down more than 7 pounds to a weight he hadnt seen in many years to fight Manny, jajaja…. bad bad comparison. This is a 22 year old man dropping two more pounds. We won’t cry for him because Floyd is moving UP and Canelo really SHOULD go fight someone his own size, but Floyd can handle the bully.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:33 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Thank you Captain Obvious!”-IF the FACTS are obvious to YOU then GOOD for YOU. Just silently nod your head in agreement with ME.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:33 am 


Canello wants to be the “Light One”

Oscars just jealous that he hasnt found someone to expose Mayweathers defensive & offensive brilliance! Standing in the pocket is DUMB boxing! It proves nothing, except a stupid bravado that takes shot for shot, with the useless attitude that overtly communicates to each other as they fight: “I can ABSORB anything you bring, but can you continually ABSORB what I dish out!?” – DUMB boxing. Some men have weaker constitutions than others, but it doesnt mean they should/could have less skills. So skills should be pursued – Preservin’ that noggin is whats NECESSARY because there’s a DELICATE BRAIN in it, surrounded by fluid!!! Oscar wants Mayweather to lose, and it seems like he can’t help himself from verbally giving ANY Mayweather opponent the upper hand. I hope the bulk of what Oscars doing is promoting, cuz if not, he sounds like a hurt wuss. Canelo now, seems to be applying more boxing, it seems he realizes the necessity. No matter how heavier Canelo comes in, Mayweather would be wise to avoid the heavier shots. Who knows, Canelo might simply gain like 10, 15lbs come fight night, after all, he IS searching for a new strength & conditioning coach! Coming in with less water weight can possibly help his stamina issues. Coming in too heavy against Floyds brilliance, could possibly make Canelos movements resemble that of a slug….. a tired slug! Canelo may just happen to change his physical game plan. We shall see.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:24 am 


spartacus 65

Lol, hildago I like,that one. CAPTAIN OBVIOUS. LOL. Okay first hype time has begun. That’s par for the course. Two delahoya is doing his job . Promote. Third as another post stated very correctly look at who wrote the article. I rest my case. Nice one Hidalgo. Peace champ.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:21 am 


Hidalgo

“De la Hoya must be playing some type of mind games….” Thank you Captain Obvious!

Posted June 4, 2013 12:09 am 


Adrian

Btw those who say Canelo will come at 171 are not mentioning one fact wich is very important and that’s the training to make weight , if you have trouble geting to 154 like Canelo is lately than trying to lose another 2 extra pounds will have posibly make you lose a lot of power and change the way of the training and dieting rutin …just ask Oscar de la Hoya how he felt loosing weight for the fight against PAC or why didnt cotto take the second fight against PAC who was offered to fight at catch weight yet again…

Posted June 4, 2013 12:07 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

De la Hoya must be playing some type of mind games. ..OR he’s just trying to SELL the Fight since HIS company is promoting it…..most likely the LATTER. Usually when head scratching things happen you just have to follow the MONEY….. The more people talk about the Fight the more interest grows and that equals more PPV buys which equal more dollars in Oscar’s pocket……Just WAIT until the Fight comes near. Oscar will SAY that he’s seen Canelo in sparring and there’s NO WAY that Mayweather beats him to lure those IN who want to witness him get BEAT…. He’s basically doing his job which is to SELL the Fight since HE gets PAID for doing that…..Can’t fault that. But DON’T believe the HYPE… Floyd is going to put on a sticking and moving CLINIC……Of COURSE Oscar isn’t going to SAY that because sticking and moving CLINICS don’t SELL in advance. They sell in RETROSPECT…. SO Oscar is banking on a some SUCKERS falling for his HYPE.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:02 am 


Adrian

Murderman.. Oscar got hiss “ass whooped”by mayweather? I don’t know what fight you watched …btw Oscar was over the hill at that point who got stopped by Hopkins and clearly lost to sturm and only got back because of the win against washed up mayorga.

Posted June 4, 2013 12:00 am 


Kenny Jefferson

Q. Go stiff a badger’s fanny you big ponce

Posted June 3, 2013 11:47 pm 


Q

Fight Scribe: I’m glad someone on this site isn’t living in the twilight zone. These people are idiotic almost beyond reason….

Posted June 3, 2013 11:45 pm 


Q

Te tumbo: I like your boxing eye, but… “expose a lapse, and EXecute.” ….the only thing Canelo can hope to expose is that Floyd doesn’t belong above 147 (you’re right, he always slows down up there, hands and feet), and that he doesn’t belong fighting men that come in 168-172 pounds on fight night. Canelo won’t do any exposing of anything, it’s too late for that, Floyd sabotages his body above 147, and doesn’t belong fighting men that size, and is 36…. at best Canelo can win and get a “well perfect time and perfect weight to finally beat a living legend.” That’s all I’ll say. The main drama here is that FMJ took this fight, and I want to see if at 36, he can school this guy in his own division…. REALLY, that would deflate Canelo’s star forever IMO. If he’s a future superstar #1 P4Per… there is no way… NO WAY AT ALL, that this man that is clearly declined, and doesn’t belong above a weight that you could move UP from, can come in and beat you.. at 36… and you be some great fighter. No way at all. This is really a must win for Canelo. Or hey, even if he drops Floyd and loses, that’ll be something special for him… but this is a MUST win for a projected superstar according to some. Meanwhile, Canelo isn’t in any P4P #1 contention, jajaja. I wouldn’t move Floyd down at all for losing where he doesn’t belong at 36. Meanwhile, if they do, Andre Ward will be #1.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:43 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd is gonna move and box. He may start staying in the pocket around the 8th round when Canelo is nice and winded to try and get that late stoppage

Posted June 3, 2013 11:37 pm 


Adrian

Ohhhh as soon as I saw who was the guy who wrote this garbage I didn’t even bothered to finish reading it!
He says ” he is going to outweighs him by 26 to 30 pounds”???? Really? How in a hell do you know what weight will they be in in a fight night?? Lol ….

Posted June 3, 2013 11:20 pm 


Tomato Can

Staying in the pocket wouldn’t be wise for Mayweather, I think he’s a little smarter than that. Canelo has decepitvely fast hands, and will have the ability to land something on Mayweather if he stand in the pocket.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:16 pm 


te tumbo

any 150lb+ version of Mayweather is tempting fate. that younger version was relatively stationary v. DLH and it cost him in the early rounds. IMO, Floyd isn’t preparing to stand in the pocket v. Canelo. i also think that a 148lb Mayweather has the best chance to defeat Alvarez. that is, a stinging, elusive, spin and counter Floyd. Canelo will need to be decisive and disciplined with his fight-plan. he can’t get caught up trying to match Mayweather’s every offensive and defensive talent. he needs to execute HIS fight-plan to finally break Floyd down, expose a lapse, and EXecute. it’s the only remedy to being distracted, discouraged, and deflated by everything Mayweather can do. i think this matchup is premature for Alvarez and not necessary for Mayweather but Canelo wanted Floyd’s attention, he got Floyd’s attention, and now Mayweather is preparing to erase him from #1 P4P contention.

Posted June 3, 2013 11:03 pm 


Fight Scribe

Interesting take Oscar, FM will be the smaller man by 20 pounds come fight night and with less power than his opponent yet he is going to stand in the pocket and trade? All this off the back of the fact he didn’t like his performance V Cotto when he stated ‘I give myself a D for that fight because I got hit to much’. So post the Cotto fight he brought in his father to work on his defense, delivered a defensive masterclass V Guerrero and now we are to believe he is going to regress back to the “D” fighter in facing Canelo? Hmm! Oscar you back on the substances?

Posted June 3, 2013 10:50 pm 


Fighting Words

Can the fans see the writing on the wall, De La Hoya have just told everyone not in so many words, that Mayweather will win. Both fighter are promoted by De La Hoya Golden Boy promotions

Posted June 3, 2013 10:41 pm 


Green

Floyd Sr. is still training Floyd Jr, right? If so, the odds are not in favor of Floyd Jr. standing in the pocket and trading. And you can see how they work together going way back to his lighter weight days when Floyd was more about defense and movement as opposed to with Roger.

But this is all buildup on Oscar’s part because their were more complaints from the “casual” viewer about his last fight as opposed to his fight with Cotto.

Why care about the “Casual” viewer? Because they are the ones that generate the most money for the boxers.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:17 pm 


WRONG!!!

Not a chance in hell FMJ trades with Canelo. FMJ will do what he always does and run, pot shot jabs until he works out a game plan. Then he will execute a defensive master class while counter punching. If Canelo gets tired FMJ will assess the risk at that time and decide whether to cruise to victory or go for a KO. It’s not every ones cup of tea but its his style and a successful one.

Posted June 3, 2013 10:11 pm 



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