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Tark are you on DRUGS???? Lets see 12 million jobs out source, never comming back. Every month roughly 200 thousand enter the work force. 175 thousand jobs a month dont cut it. Part time at Minimum wage. Lets see a 17 trillion dollar defict Hmmm, just print more money, Helicopter Ben, INFLATION is now starting to TAKE off. 975 trillion dollars in investment banks on speculation. hmmm Jp morgan has a 2 trillion dollar SHORT on silver. Manipualting the MARKET. Its NOT capital markets any more. Do you understand WASH TRADES, NAKED SHORTS, SHADOW BANKING, HIGH SPEED Trading, insider trading. Oh yeah the banksters (lobbyists) control congress WRITE and CHANGE the RULES for the banksters. Lets SEE MF GLOBAL ex senator John Corsine ??? No charges laid Where did the 1 billion dollars go from investors accounts???? what happen to the GLASS SIEGEL LAW, The water down Frank Dod Bill you my friend LIVE in a DREAM world. New World Order is comming, The Rothchild binderberg GROUP is WORRIED. Wake up. Why do the WEST want Iran?? They want the OIL reserves Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan, 52 million people on FOOD STAMOPS in America, LOST triple A ratings. There will be WW3, Thank God for people like Eric Snowden EXPOSEING the TRUTH.

Posted July 8, 2013 6:53 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Reviewing some of these posts made my day.

Your weak retort of “It’s the economy” was a classic, just as still putting the blame on George Bush. I wish I could write comedy like that…

Posted June 10, 2013 11:03 am 


TARK

You’re just a willfully ignorant hater… No cure for that.

Posted June 10, 2013 10:05 am 


TARK

Things would be 3 X as bad if McCain and Romney were elected after Dubya. At least we have 40 straight monts of economic growth and deficit spending is slowly being brought under control — as it was under Clinton.. Dubya made a bigger mess of things than his father.

Posted June 10, 2013 12:15 am 


Tark

I am a corksucker, that’s why I am in the left wing. I am pitiful and a sad sack of sh%t, that is why I hang around in here, nobody likes me in real life.

Posted June 9, 2013 2:26 am 


TARK

It’s the economy idiot.. The deficit went from 1.5 trillion for Dubya’s last budget year to less then 800 billion today…and recently dropped another couple hundred billion.. You notice Clinton left office leaving a 250 billion dollar budget surplus and the strongest growth in US History during his 2 terms.. Dubya had zero growth for 8 years in office and more than doubled the national debt.. It was a lost decade for the stock market as well.. Nothing as bad since Calvin Coolidge and Herbert Hoover, and their Wall Street buddies, dumped us into the Great Depression.. Go ahead — keep voting for corrupt SOB’s who do nothing but enrich their friends with fat government contracts, and work for Wall Street instead of working class folks and small business owners.

Posted June 9, 2013 12:27 am 


TARK

Right…, You Dubya voters were real bright.. Two unpaid for wars that cost trillions.. Massive tax breaks for billionaires.. And no regulation of Wall Street so we crash into the Great Recession.

I suppose you’ll put up with the country going broke as long as the IRS doesn’t scrutinize Tea Baggers’ tax returns—even if those groups are publicly advocating tax avoidance.

Posted June 8, 2013 6:58 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Quite a few morons voted for the scandal ridden fool too…

Posted June 8, 2013 5:41 pm 


TARK

Hecdog sez…., “Mayweather is just not a great fighter IMO.”

Right!!! In your opinion… And your opinion sucks to the moon. Almost everyone on planed Earth, even those who hate Floyd, acknowledge Floyd Mayweather Jr is a great fighter … A few morons don’t.. A few morons think Obama was born in Kenya.

Posted June 8, 2013 1:29 pm 


Hecdog

Gentlemen, calm down my friends. It’s not that serious. I know you guys love Floyd Mayweather, and it’s obvious you want everyone on earth to say he’s the greatest fighter ever, and you give him a little too much credit, but that’s okay. You’re all entitled to your opinion. Listen, my pick on the Guerrero fight was wrong. I accept it, and Floyd still has a bit more in him. He obviously didn’t want to actually fight Guerrero, and if one guy doesn’t want to fight and chooses to hit once or twice, hug, hold and run or move away, then you can have a fight, but rather a cat and mouse game. Now, it’s very obvious to knowledgeable fight fans what an inside fighter is. Examples, Chavez Duran, James Toney, Mike Mcallum. These guys use great technique, leverage, balance and attack all areas of the body. It’s blasphemy to think Floyd Mayweather is even a decent inside fighter. All Floyd does is counter punch. He doesn’t stay inside other than to shoulder roll and throw straight right hands. That’s not infighting. And lastly, Jesus is always in control, and sometimes he allows things to happen for reasons we’ll never know, and I’m fine with that. I think the majority of people on ESB agree that Floyd was scared to fight Manny Pacquiao. He had plentyo of opportunities, and i watched the ESPN sports show where Manny Pacquiao clearly, let me say this again, clearly said he would take any and all tests Floyd wanted, accept 45%/55% fro Floyd, and waited to hear back from Floyd. Guess what, no answer back from Floyd. So enough of this Manny avoided the fight, it’s very cllear from comments given by Floyd, uncle Roger and Floyd Sr that they feared the power of the Legendary, and only 8 time division boxing Champion in history. Manny is unequaled, and will go down as the fighter of the millineum, and probably the best fighter of all time.

Posted June 8, 2013 2:29 am 


Hecdog

Gentleman, calm down. It’s not that serious. I understand you guys like Floyd Mayweather, and give him much more credit than he actually deserves. Yes he’s a good boxer with speed and reflexes, and a great athlete, he’s just not a great fighter IMO. He wins on athleticism, and not true boxing technique. He’s like a Roy Jones that technically doesn’t throw punches correctly, but he can get away with it because of his athleticism, speed and reflexes. Now, I must make a correction for someone that made a blasphemous statement in saying that Floyd knew how to fight inside. Fighters that know how to fight inside are Duran, Chavez Sr, James Toney, Mike Mccalum to name a few. They use proper technique, balance, positioning, stay in the pocket and use the full arsenal of punches to all areas of the body and head. Floyd, as he always does, counters, shoulder rolls, throw straight right hands and gets out of there. He’s not comfortable in there. Example, Cotto beat him down inside, and you can bet your last dime, he’ll never fight like that again, hence the Guerrero fight. Why? Because he’s not confident inside . Another thought. Guerrero was the guy I thought would beat Floyd because I thought Floyd would have slipped a little, anmd he would actually fight Guerrero seeing that he was coming up a few divisions. And I knew he was a Godly man that would further motivate him along with his wife and family. I was wrong. I also didn’t anticipate Floyd hitting once or twice, hugging, holding and running or moving away as many Floyd fans like to say. I guess the taste of INSIDE fighting with Cotto taught him a lesson, and he didn’t like getting hit and bloodied up. So much for Floyd knowing how to fight inside. Moving along, we come to the legendary, fighter of the Decade and arguably the best fighter of all time Manny Pacquiao., Floyd without any doubt, avoided Manny Pacquiao in his prime, which is a habit Floyd has developed in his careeer. I recall watching an ESPN show called First take where Manny clearly, and I mean clearly told Floyd on National tv that he would accept and take all drug tests Floyd wanted, accept a 45%/55% in Floyd’s favor, and told Floyd to make the fight. The message could not have been more clearer. No return answer was given by Floyd, which was not a surprise since Floyd Sr, Uncle Roger and Floyd himself had stated over and over that Manny had too much power. They accused him of using Peds. They were sued, and settled out of court. Basically, they ran from Manny Pacquiao, and Floyd will forever be known as the guy that avoided the greatest fighter of this era, and probably the best fighter of all time. Next, I truly believe God does things for a reason, and sometimes things don’t workout the way we thought. That doesn’t diminish our faith in God one bit. Eventually, both Manny Pacquiao and Robert Guerrero will come back to accomplish things in boxing no one thinks they can do today, but God has a plan, and in the end he’s always right, and we’re not always right.

Posted June 8, 2013 2:15 am 


SREDMOND

Hecdog, is detached from reality and hardly worthy of the attention and attempts to make sense of his renderings… He cannot accurately view fights and like Bears, and other ESB nuts he simply dismisses results he doesn’t like ie Pacquiao and Cotto vs Mayweather… Hes trying to level the playing field for Pacquiao who was knocked cold because FMJs dominance is stii intact the man was posting like a psycho about how Jesus was gonna save Pacquiao and how he was gonna lead Guerrero over FMJ… And when “Jesus” goes against him he just changes his tune… His opinion is is a VERY low value, I have a real disdain for excuse makers and guys who vacate results….

Posted June 7, 2013 11:55 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

the public-THANK you.

Posted June 7, 2013 8:54 pm 


the public

whoever says Floyd don’t know how to fight inside does not know a sh%t about boxing. Floyd Mayweather is insane on the inside. His defeense of course is stellar but his punch placement and instincts on the inside are clever at the least and debilitating to boxers who don’t know better. Even worse for bettors who don’t know sh%t.

Posted June 7, 2013 5:29 pm 


hecdog

Tark, Floyd is a very good boxer. Cotto as I said was well past his prime and on the decline. Floyd tried staying inside with him, and paid for it. He sure didn’t want any part of the light hitting Guerrero. He did,as I said, hit, held, hugged and ran. Ortiz? Last I saw Ortiz he was Sucker punched regardless if it was legal or not. Floyd didn’t need to win in that fashion. He should have better character to win like that. Floyd is a guy I don’t care for as a person, but he has good skills and a great at athlete.

Posted June 7, 2013 1:55 pm 


TARK

Hecdog…. Floyd isn’t safety first. He attacked Genaro Hernandez like a rabid dog to win his first World Title. He backed Ortiz up, a man who outweighed him by 15 pounds. He backed Cotto up, a man who outweighed him by 17 pounds. You’re not being fair.. You’re not being realistic.. You won’t give the best boxer alive credit for anything.. The reason you lost money on Floyd is your erroneous thinking.. It’s you. It’s not Floyd who made you make that bet … Stop hating.

Posted June 7, 2013 11:46 am 


zera

skills pays the bills…

but like i always say, THIS IS BOXING, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN,

let’s not count out Canelo, he’s a legit threat.

FMJ via close SD

Posted June 7, 2013 2:00 am 


hecdog

He technically doesn’t throw punches correctly other than the jab and straight right, but he’s always ready to get out of dodge once he throws them. He doesn’t know how to fight inside due to his fear of getting hit like he did vs Cotto. He’s a great athlete, but he’ll never be remembered for great fights like Tyson, Lewis, Ali, Durran, Hagler, Mosely, Oscar, Chavez, Robinson, Pacquiao. All those guys were true fighters that took risks. They were bruised and bloodied, but they stepped out of their safe zone and fought guys to prove they were better. Floyd is all about safety first, which is okay for him, but that why fans boo him and leave the arenas. Yes he earns ridiculous money, but he loses a lot of respect for his style of boxing. He should be able to beat Caanelo, but if he doesn’t, it will go to show that these guys I mentioned would have had a fairly easy time with fighting Floyd. This is a young strong Canelo that has no experience. I’m not fooled by this. Floyd should beat him.

Posted June 7, 2013 1:38 am 


hecdog

Correctamundo, Floyd was all but out. He was hanging on for dear life. Like a fish out of water. One more clean punch, and he was going to sleep. Look at the replay again, and you’ll see just how hurt he was. Imagine Hearns landing on Floyd or Leonard, Duran or Barkley. H would have been out cold. And Mosley wasn’t even a great puncher at 147. Sorry, Floyd could not have beaten these guys, especially in 15 round fights.

Tark, Floyd isn’t one of my favorite boxers because of his egotistical, boastful, materialistic and money hungry attitude, but I also don’t consider him a true fighter. Yes, he has great speed, reflexes, but his style of hitting, hugging, holding and running shows me he’s a better athlete than a technical fighter that is well rounded. He techincally doesn’t throw punches

Posted June 7, 2013 1:28 am 


TARK

Hecdog…. Since you said Guerrero would beat Floyd and stop him. That just shows you don’t like Floyd. You’re not objective. You even bet on Guerrero to beat Floyd and he was WAY overrated by the experts and bettors. I told you what the easy money bet was, and why, but you didn’t listen. You make a lot of excuses for Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, and Duran losing.. Barkley was beaten by many of the guy Hearns was ducking, including Michael Nunn, Nigel Benn, James Toney, and Sumbu Kalambay … So no.. He didn’t have to much pride to duck anyone.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:10 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Alvarez is bigger, stronger, tougher, smarter, and a better defender than Norris … He has a lot more fights, a better record, and he’s a tougher package to solve.”-NICE point. But Mayweather is also a tougher package to solve than Leonard. His Defense is MUCH BETTER. In FACT Alvarez could defeat a 34 yr old Leonard but he will LOSE to a 36 yr old Mayweather….Tougher puzzle to solve than a 34 yr old Leonard….Tough LUCK.

Posted June 6, 2013 7:35 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Mosley was old and almost Knocked him out.”-NOPE. But he almost knocked him DOWN. What Librado Andrade DID to Lucian Bute is called almost knocking someone out….You have to at least score a knock DOWN to be considered almost knocking someone out….or else Guerrero almost knocked Floyd out TOO. Just ask him he SAID that Floyd was “just a FEW inches from getting knocked out!!!”

Posted June 6, 2013 7:26 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Oscar was old and barely lost to him,”-NOPE. Floyd LANDSLIDED him by 85 punches. Beat him SO BAD that he actually defeated the Fight Fix.

Posted June 6, 2013 7:21 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Hatton was media made” -NOPE. He was record made. The media didn’t make Hatton 43-0. His record WAS that and he was the LINEAL Champion at 140. Undefeated. Until he met Mayweather.

Posted June 6, 2013 7:19 pm 


The Best!

Titopa …You are underestimating Canelo, first off, Mayweather would of never taken on someone like Trout, a south Paw who can box , undefeated and lanky. Come on dude if Canelo put more pressure he would of smashed Trout. As for Canelo being slow with head movement i think his last fight proved the oppsosite.You have to be kidding me, he puts combos as quick as anybody. Think of this , their is a reason why Mayweather is making him lose 2 lbs from 154 weight LIMIT, pretty simple he knows Canelo can hurt him at his full strength.

Posted June 6, 2013 6:25 pm 


hecdog

Tark, Guerrero came to fight, and there was no quit in him. I thought Floyd may be sliding at this point and he wasn’t. He managed to hit once or twice, hug, hold and run or move away quickly. Guerrero came to fight, Floyd did his usual. As far as the Past greats Duran, Hagler, Hearns and Leonard go. Leonard was old and shot in his losses. Hearns had too much pride not to fight anyone, Hagler was robbed later in his career, and Duran was weigh over the hill and 3-4 divisions above his weight class. He was fearless, and beat a monster in Barkley that beat Hearns twice. Regardless, These guys would have all beaten Floyd. Floyd beat Corrales in his prime, but the rest of the guys like Cotto, old, Hatton was media made, Oscar was old and barely lost to him, Mosley was old and almost Knocked him out. Castillo actually beat him but was robbed. And he avoided Manny Pacquiao. Now that was terrible to avoid a great fighter that was destroying everyone in sight. He could have proven himself if he had fought Manny, but he was afraid. And you think Floyd would have a chance against the past great ones? No, IMO, they would have all beaten him including Wilfredo Benitez.

Posted June 6, 2013 6:19 pm 


hecdog

@MannyKnowsPEDS, Floyd definitely makes money, and his style definitely prolongs his career. He just does not like to get hit even a little. Oh well, that’s his style and it works for him.

Posted June 6, 2013 6:07 pm 


Manuel

Mayweather’s gonna ko Canelo… I bet Mayweathers sparring against 170 lbs pressure fighters that have Canelo’s style… my money’s on Mayweather the Money Maker!

Posted June 6, 2013 5:18 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Hecdog, agree but you got to look at it from this point its a business so you really want a prolonged career to maximise earnings legacy ect.

Posted June 6, 2013 5:13 pm 


TARK

Hecdog…. Remember, you thought Robert Guerrero was going to beat Mayweather so bad he was going to stop him.. CLEARLY you thought Floyd picked a very tough guy in the once beaten Guerrero who was many many times a World Champion.. You can’t say Floyd’s picking soft opponents when he fights threats so tough you believe they’ll kick his ass so bad the referee will be forced to stop it. Let’s be fair.

As for Leonard, Duran, Hagler, and Hearns, they got beaten, knocked out or stopped — not necessarily by each other.. Have you heard of Iran Barkley, Kirland Laing, Robbie Sims, and Terry Norris??? Of course they picked soft opponents and got their asses kicked, sometimes by fighters few people have ever heard of. Other fighters they were avoiding would have beaten them a lot worse … Floyd has been in very deep against many Multi-Divisional World Champions and he has never had his ass kicked — so there’s a big difference when you’re comparing those guys who kept to their little circle and avoided tougher opponents who were begging to fight them.

Posted June 6, 2013 4:58 pm 


hecdog

@MannyKnowsPeds, I agree to some degree, but you don’t see a lot of boxers staying that long unless they have a similar boxing style that Floyd has, which consists of hitting (1-2 punches) holding and running or moving away like Floyd. Bernard Hopkins is another example. They look for the safest way to win without taking a lot of punches, hence their careers are extended. George Foreman age 45 was the only real fighter that won a title at that age, but George was a once in a lifetime fighter.

Posted June 6, 2013 4:50 pm 


Pain

But of course, I will give Canelo a chance, say 35% chance. He has all the tools to pull this off.

If he comes in light, he will be fast and strong for Floyd to handle.
If he gets his conditioning right, hopefully he can put the pressure on until the championship rounds.
If he gets his head right, he can match Floyd’s wits (however unlikely).

Too many ifs though. Too hard to execute when you got Mayweather in front of you. So this all comes down to heart. The will to win. If Canelo can have Castillo’s heart, it’s going to be a very tough fight for Floyd.

Posted June 6, 2013 4:06 pm 


Pain

I’ve been saying it for a long time.

Canelo is overrated.
This fight is overrated.
All hype, no competition.

First few rounds will be shaky for Floyd, but that’s about it. He will then potshot to another boring UD win. This will be more like Pac-Margarito IMO. Floyd getting hurt a few times but his speed and skill will take over. Canelo’s face will be bloodied. He will keep coming but Floyd will just lock him down til he gets frustrated and runs out of steam.

Posted June 6, 2013 3:53 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@HECDOG I think your find its called modern sports science 40 the new 30 ect I see lots of athletes well into there late 30s mixing it up with the young up and comers

Posted June 6, 2013 3:42 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

People keep thinking Canelo is gonna come out like Aaron Pryor used to against Alexis Arguello I, Canelo can only fight half a round he certainly is no athelete

Posted June 6, 2013 3:40 pm 


hecdog

The only reason Mayweather has more left in his tank at this point in his career is because he has never really had tough fights like the greats of the past. Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Benitez, Hagler fought each other and actually came to fight. They wanted to prove they were the better fighters inside that ring. They not only wanted to win, but win impressively. They had no fear. Too bad Floyd missed those days. I guarantee you his style would not have been enough to beat those greats. They were intelligent thinking fighters that made adjustments throughout the fight. Fans loved them, and they earned a legacy that will never be replaced. Those were boxing fans type of fighters. No one asked for a refund, and they never were booed or had people walk out in their prime days. real all around fighters in those days.

Posted June 6, 2013 3:40 pm 


TARK

Titopa…, I heard the same song about Sugar Ray Leonard.. Leonard was supposed to be such an excellent opponent picker… Leonard was fighting at 160 defending a 168lb title… He said “No Thank You” to the 3 middleweight champions: Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, and Julian Jackson.. Ray cast his eye on 154-pound champ Terry Norris who suffered a brutal KO loss to Jackson a couple fights earlier.

Everyone told me, “Leonard wouldn’t fight this kid if he didn’t know damned well he could beat him.” … I said, “No??? Watch the fight.”

Mayweather may have more left at 36 than Leonard had at 34 — that’s what you’re going to tell me… What I’m telling you is that Alvarez is bigger, stronger, tougher, smarter, and a better defender than Norris … He has a lot more fights, a better record, and he’s a tougher package to solve.

Posted June 6, 2013 3:17 pm 


Anonymous

Titopa- i agree partly with what u said. YES, Mayweather usually does pick his opponents. This is different. No head movement from Canelo? Brother, did you see the Trout fight? If you havent I suggest you do see it. Canelo was slipping Trouts punches all night, granted he hasnt mastered it YET, but he looked good doing it. Thats why Trout didnt land a solid punch on Canelo all night. Thats why you hear people saying Trout was “featherfisted” (public enemy mostly). Truth is Canelo is young, still has a lot to accomplish, could that be the reason why the Mayweathers picked this fight? Like you said they pick their opponents for a reason. Still, this is gonna be a good solid fight

Posted June 6, 2013 3:16 pm 


Angelina

This Angelina Fatchalini is FAKE !

Posted June 6, 2013 3:13 pm 


Titopa

Anonymous – All that won’t matter..Floyd knows how to “pick” his opponents, unless he’s sure he’ll win, he won’t fight, this fight is no different. Canelo is slow (hand and foot) and has NO head movement, that’s target practice for someone of Floyd’s caliber.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:48 pm 


Titopa

This is spot on. Floyd’s skill and experience will once again, be TOO much for his opponent (Canelo).

Posted June 6, 2013 2:47 pm 


Anonymous

The funny part is that MOST Canelo fans are cool with the fight and giving props to Mayweather BUT NOW the Mayweather fans bring up crap like Mayweather is little, Canelo is a monster, a heavyweight bs, he can do it, hes great but it aint fair….and on and on and on, crying about it. Did yall want this fight or not? Why yall so damn nervous all of a sudden?

Posted June 6, 2013 2:24 pm 


Anonymous

Are yall serious? Making a comparison between Canelo and Margarito? That alone makes no sense. Other than being mexicans, nothing. Dont live in the same state, Canelo is whiteskinned, margarito is not, Canelo is a true legit superwelter, Margarito not, Canelo has good ring IQ, Margarito did not… I could go on and on. Yall some dumb fools for even putting them in the same sentence. Night and day.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:14 pm 


Anonymous

Every Mayweather fan is out crying that Floyd is the victim. They claim he is the greatest but say he is “small” and needs a catchweight. Really? Then they say Canelo is heavyweight. Why? Its sounds like a bride getting cold feet right before the wedding, if you ask me. Yall nervous about something? What has Canelo said??? Nothing.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:07 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

canelo is not faster than Margarito not in a million years

Posted June 6, 2013 1:58 pm 


Green

Canelo on the other hand is no Margarito; he is much better. Bigger, Stronger, Faster, and more skilled. Higher I.Q.

As far as Stamina issues, there could be a variety of reasons why he is having trouble. the Opponent. An opponent that moves, makes you think, makes you miss, throws body-shots, etc. can decrease stamina even in the best conditioned athletes. That’s why “Mindset” is key. Fighters that have “answers” and can stay relaxed last a lot longer.
Think of it like taking a School exam: When you have the answers, you breeze through it…your relaxed. When you don’t have the answers, and you want to pass, you can start to panic and hyperventilate.

The other is diet. Certain foods decrease stamina.

The other is weight control. Are you fighting at a healthy weight? Add in the one above with “diet” since a depletion of foods can decrease energy and stamina.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:40 pm 


Angelina Fatchalini

Ernie…..oh Ernie, I have an open faced beef sandwich for you…..on Italian buns Ernie

Posted June 6, 2013 1:35 pm 


Green

Duran:

Margarito was way to slow for Floyd. And during that time, Floyd was using his move, pot shot strategy unlike we saw last time out against Cotto.

It would have been a brutally boring fight like Floyd’s fight with Baldomir.

Bobby Boy Arum is the reason why some fights didn’t happen.

Look how easy it is for Floyd to negotiate fights with non-Arum fighters.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:34 pm 


Angelina Fatchalini

F-tards, Floyd gonna get KTFO and sleep on the canvas………………..

Posted June 6, 2013 1:32 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Duran Margarito was at best a D+ fighter

Posted June 6, 2013 1:00 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Duran alvarez has no endurance his only option will be to juice and he wont do that unless hes really dumb he was out paced at times even by a 41 year old Mosley nothing he can do will change this even if he comes in lighter he will still only have 5% more endurance than normal. Bottom line he gasses badly and only can fight for a minute per round

Posted June 6, 2013 12:58 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@Tark Alvarez wont control the center of the ring he doesn’t know how to he might be able to against the low calibre opposition hes faced such as Mathew Hatton and a few other bums but he will not control that ring Floyd will just step to the side the moment he does and walk him down it will pan out very similar to the Ortiz fight Ortiz was 167 fight night

Posted June 6, 2013 12:53 pm 


TARK

Duran… You’re an idiot… Cheato was knocked out by an aging Mosley, after getting badly beaten up every round — because they discovered his plastered wraps. Since Cheato was exposed he hasn’t knocked out a soul. Floyd’s team would have been onto Cheato as well. They’re sharp and experienced enough not to let anything like that get past them. Floyd-Cheato would have been a disaster for the unskilled master of plaster.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:53 pm 


TARK

Floyd is a counterpuncher. He doesn’t fight at a monster pace. He tried to wear Cotto down and stop him—as he promised to do—so Floyd got hit with many more punches than usual. He won’t try that versus Alarez. Oscar is thinking very wishfully when he suggests that. Endurance isn’t going to be a problem for Alvarez with Floyd in counterpunching mode. Floyd won’t come at Saul like the 171 pound Trout did, to test the kid’s “man strength.” Saul showed AT he has plenty of that. The main things for Canelo are to be fresh, strong, fast, alert, and sharper mentally and physically than an obsidian sword. He doesn’t need to be as buff and strong as the Trout fight. He’ll be lighter and faster. He has to control the center of the ring, cut off the ring, box well, feint and jab subtly and effortlessly, attack with precision to minimize Floyd’s counter connects, and mix up his combinations. Saul is an excellent counter puncher as well. His counter right uppercut is the one of the best in Boxing.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:48 pm 


TARK

Floyd weighed in for all his 154 pound fights at more than he weighed into the ring. He wants to be fast so he doesn’t eat a lot before a fight. He doesn’t need to dry out because he can’t hold 152. If you ever fasted for a few days you know you don’t feel hungry. You need plenty of water but your body burns stored fat and glycogen. Floyd will load carbs the week of the fight. Some marathon runners don’t eat 24 hours before the race because they don’t want any weight in their colon—but if they “load carbs” properly for a few days before the race they won’t hit “the wall” and will run very hard for 2 hours and change. A boxer goes hard for 36 minutes max with plenty of opportunity to keep hydrated. Exhaustion is less of a problem than an endurance athlete. Floyd’s legs will be the key. He needs to move fast, and for 12 rounds, and he needs to be razor sharp on defense and offense.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:45 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Mayweather is a junior welterweight who walks around 148 – 150 Alvarez should be fighting Andre Ward or Martinez its not Mayweathers fault alvarez is desperate but either way Mayweather wins easy

Posted June 6, 2013 12:36 pm 


The Best!

Rapid- All you Myweather nuthuggers get me sick, if hes not a true 154 pounder then the coward should stay at 147 and not fight for a title at 154 if the sissy is going to make others struggle to make weight.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:24 pm 


RapidOne08

Mayweather’s not even a true 154 pounder, He can only get up to 150.. Imo he jus does it to prove a point. He’s the best and people gon hate

Posted June 6, 2013 12:21 pm 


The Best!

If Mayweather is so great why cant he fight for the title at 154 where it should be why does he need to cheat by having others starve and dehydrate themselves so he can have the advantage. Mayweather is a fricken joke and always has been. The coward will not fight at 154 what the weight limit is, he is a Fraud. he knows canelo would beat him down at 154 simple as that.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:12 pm 


Pete Wells

I just don’t get it; first Floyd is a coward & ducking everybody that has a puncher’s chance at beating him. Now that the fight is a go, people are starting to say “Oh well, it will be good entertainment, but I’m picking Floyd to win”. I thought the kid was the one to beat Floyd, I though the kid was suppose to be ready to be the top dog, I thought the kid was going to knock Floyd’s head into the next state, etc, etc…. I mean if Floyd wouldn’t have taken this fight he would be labeled a cherry picker, ducker, chicken, coward, the list goes on. Like I said, I just don’t get it; people are never satisfied with whatever this man does. If he loses I guess people won’t be satisfied even then…. I see why Floyd says the things he says & he has good damn reason, because most people don’t have a clue about the sport of boxing, they just want to see two guys throw bombs until one get knocked out. But I bet if this was that cheating a** Pacroid there wouldn’t be a problem if he had this kid come down to 147 or even 145 along with a rehydrate clause of 152 on fight night , and if the kids weight was over 152 the first 10 rds was forfeited to Pacroid or something along those lines.

Posted June 6, 2013 11:45 am 


PublicEnemaIsaMoron

Pubes making up macho fantasies again.. What wing joint shows ppv bouts?… This dude is such a stupid LIAR!!

Posted June 6, 2013 11:38 am 


Foreal

Canelo is in obvious trouble

Posted June 6, 2013 11:31 am 


drx

have would floyd do against alvarez if floyd was the same age as alvarez, floyd when he was 22 against alvarez?

Posted June 6, 2013 10:41 am 


spartacus 65

Murderman peace and blessings right back at you. Strength,peace and honor.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:25 am 


murderman

@ Bucket- Tell your mama punk!

Posted June 6, 2013 10:15 am 


Publicenemyisdumb

MNboxing he didn’t strip Floyd because of the fee’s he collects from him. Ward on the other hand there’s no money there you can’t get to much cash from Ward holding his bouts in slum Lord Oakland

Posted June 6, 2013 10:15 am 


BUCKET

MURDERMAN. STICK IT IN YOUR POOP SHOOT.

Posted June 6, 2013 10:13 am 


Publicenemyisdumb

Actually Cotto won 5 rounds

Posted June 6, 2013 10:13 am 


PEEJ

Public Enemy, I didn’t say Cotto didn’t do good but someone said you have to cut the ring off like Cotto did. Cotto wasn’t cutting the ring off, Floyd just wasn’t moving. He stayed in the pocket which made for a more exciting back a bad forth fight to an extent. The people say well Cotto bloodied his nose like that is some huge accomplishment. It’s like saying Zab won 3 rounds. Ok that’s all good but if that’s an accomplishment for someone then some people got their standards pretty low.

Posted June 6, 2013 9:43 am 


murderman

@ duran – I will pray for you my friend! God bless!

Posted June 6, 2013 9:25 am 


murderman

@spartacus 65 – thank you for your service sir! Much love and be safe friend! Peace and blessing king!

Posted June 6, 2013 9:24 am 


Q-Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras

Canelo will beat Mayweather.

Posted June 6, 2013 9:16 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

the fights at 152… so why is the WBC even there?!? titles aren’t on the line are they? if they are that’s the biggest joke of all…

Posted June 6, 2013 9:04 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

the corrupt WBC juan the joke sauliman sitting at the table… why didn’t you strip Floyd when he was out for a year and even said he retired sauliman? yet you stripped Ward when he was ready to fight and didn’t even have a mandatory… WBC is everything I hate about boxing… they make their own rules and are corrupt… yet are somehow the most sought after belt in boxing… personally I’d want the Ring belt if I was a fighter… oh well… Floyd’s gonna kill Canelo so what does it matter… more money for the joke and the alphabet soup

Posted June 6, 2013 9:03 am 


Public Enemy

Once Floyd easily out boxes Alvarez we’ll see an Alvarez vs Cotto fight… it’s the only other Mega fight for Canelo before he has to face all his dangerous Mandatories like Lara, Quinlin, Rosado….

Posted June 6, 2013 8:40 am 


mack

While I like Alvarez, and would love to see him beat Mayweather, I don’t see him catching up with Floyd. I know it was a couple of years ago, but Alvarez’ failure to stop Matthew Hatton does not bode well for his chances of catching Mayweather. Alvarez vs. Cotto would be a better action fight.

Posted June 6, 2013 8:30 am 


Public Enemy

Cotto at his Prime under his Uncle pre MargaCheatos Cemment Wrap Damaging fight would’ve given Floyd and Paquiao all they could handle… especially without any bullsht Catchweight…

Posted June 6, 2013 7:48 am 


Public Enemy

Peej – Cotto did very well against floyd when he fought like the old Cotto and took it to Mayweather.. but Cotto did pretty badly when he tried to out Box Floyd, something his Cuban Coach wanted from Cotto due to his style of training.. The Cuban Coach was bad for Cotto.. good guy but his style is not a style that brings out the best in Cotto.. Cotto needs to go back to his Uncle alla Floyd going back to his Dad or he needs another Coach like Freddy Roach who can bring out the best in Cottos aggressive slugger style…

Posted June 6, 2013 7:46 am 


MJames

Finally a real test for Floyd. Thankfully Amir Khan isn’t getting shot and doesn’t deserve one even if he beats Alexander. We want Floyd tested by the best opposition possible, Khan is nowhere near the elite level and should never be given a shot at Floyd.

Posted June 6, 2013 7:10 am 


Rich

Why doesn’t ESB Listen to Hecdog…..You would soon be on him for swearing….C’mon PUT THIS RIGHT……

Posted June 6, 2013 3:29 am 


Zuks

Broner and Floyd in the same ring it will not happen. Manny will not fight Floyd because he will lose again! Floyd will knock out Canelo!

Posted June 6, 2013 3:23 am 


PEEJ

Cotto didn’t really cut the ring off on Floyd. Floyd stood toe to toe. Had nothing to do with cutting the ring off

Posted June 6, 2013 2:55 am 


BRICK CTIY

Green my point was just bcus he’s bigger then mayweather means nothing. everyone is talking about his size, he was hurt by a smaller man. He’s a lil above average, who has he fopught???

Posted June 6, 2013 2:28 am 


zera

in order for Canelo to beat FMJ, he should follow Cotto’s gameplan, pressure, cut the ring, and force FMJ to fight toe to toe, this will be hard.

Canelo should first train for cardio, he will need to dig deep and dig deep he must. cutting the ring, catching FMJ, eating punches along the way, it’s all the risk involve. ACTIVITY is the key

Posted June 6, 2013 2:24 am 


hecdog

Floyd by UD or late round stoppage I meant to say.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:15 am 


hecdog

Q, I hope that actually happens and walks right through Floyd and knocks him out, but I just don’t see it. Do you think Floyd’s plan will be any different than what he’s used to doing? No way on earth will he give Canelo an opportunity to get punches off on him except to feel his power for a split second, and then he’s going to move all night long. He’s going to counter all night long. Canelo is too slow, and flt footed. You can seehis punches coming from 5000 miles away. Floyd will be gone as Canelo begins to throw. He might do his shoulder role defensive maneuver for a few seconds against the ropes, which would be dangerous, but who knows, maybe Floyd’s ego and pride is big enough to try that. I hope he does and pays because I’m not a fan of his. This will be interesting to see though. Canelo by UD or late round stoppage. Hope I’m wrong.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:13 am 


NEWS

Oscar just said*

Posted June 6, 2013 2:12 am 


NEWS

Canelo just said to get ready for the Fiesta after the fight, because Canelo is GOING to win this fight. That’s what Oscar says. He says Canelo can study fights like Castillo Vs. FMJ (I don’t know how when even Castillo himself couldn’t come close to duplicating what success he may have had in the first bout) and he says from studying Oscar’s own bout with FMJ… hahaha… talk about tooting your own horn after winning 3 rounds. The fix was in, Oscar just lost SO MANY rounds that they couldn’t even bs and give him his robbery W.

Posted June 6, 2013 2:11 am 


Q

it*

Posted June 6, 2013 1:58 am 


Q

ah sorry… no… I would have been something like….. 115-112 (Alvarez) – 115-112 (trout) …and with Stanley 117-110 (Alvarez) …if my boxing math is off, help thanks. Goodnight.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:57 am 


Q

If that one judge who has the 116-111 card scored 10-8 for the 7th round… (the round Trout came on much stronger to end) that means, without that KD…. and with that won round…. I think mathematically…. that would have shifted that card to a draw, and it would have been in the end a SD Draw. Wow… I never analyzed that. Trout was 171 pounds in that bout though, jaja. So that must be considered in comparison to a much better but much smaller boxer type. And where is the love for Guillermo?

Posted June 6, 2013 1:55 am 


Q

That tells us that TECHNICALLY… Trouts style wasn’t so unfavorable for the judges against Canelo, even though he was overpowered…. which bods well for FMJ in trying to win a decision (We’re making reasons for a decision, and what if FMJ gets a stoppage? jaja.. yeah I know, it’s not likely.. but who knows)

Posted June 6, 2013 1:51 am 


Q

and the other judge would have had the bout 115-112 without the KD, and it would have been a split decision for Canelo, with just the one drunk judge.. Stanley.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:48 am 


Q

OH WAIT…. 115-112 means that judge would have given the bout to Trout without the knockdown.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:41 am 


Q

Floyd will likely come in at about 150.. to try to maintain as much quickness as possible hand and foot, and all…. the 152 limit let’s him not think so much about bulking up and damaging himself as he did the other two times at 154. He won’t be as little as he was against Guerrero at 146… and he should be match up well LENGTH wise…. by the way… one judge in the Tout-Canelo bout say a 115-112 fight. That’s a round from a draw. So he didn’t blow Trout out neither in the actual fight nor in ALL of the cards. But I do think there isn’t a question that Canelo won… I don’t know. I just never doubted it. He looked better.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:38 am 


Q

Hecdog: “I don’t think the weight will have any bearing on the fight unless Floyd fights inside and toe to toe.” ummm… how about if Floyd get’s hit on his chin with a big mans strong punch and it hurts him? What if Canelo doesn’t respect Floyd’s punches because he’s too small and not the puncher to get his respect? You know what that means for a counter puncher? If means they can just LAUNCH full blast without care at ever punch you throw. There are many variables. I will favor FMJ, but I WILL say that there are many VARIABLES in this bout that could lead to a “shock” that may not be so shocking DEPENDING on how it occurs.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:32 am 


Q

Tark: FMJ Vs. Paquiao in China would be ….legendary even now (if they both win these bouts, and if Manny shreds Rios like I’m sure he still can). I just really don’t think that fight will happen…..

Posted June 6, 2013 1:27 am 


hecdog

Canelo May have had his share of fights albeit against lower level competition, but he has never been in a fight of this magnitude. He has never fought anyone with any resemblance of what he will face in Mayweather. I don’t think the weight will have any bearing on the fight unless Floyd fights inside and toe to toe. The weight will not affect Floyd’s style of fighting. Canelo will have to dictate the pace, be in great condition and apply pressure for 12 rounds, otherwise, he does not have a chance regardless of what his weight is. Speed, movement, timing and countering have nothing to do with Canelo’s weight. Experience will have a lot to do with the winner of this fight. Canelo has never really been tested or dealt with a fighter that will have him guessing all night. Canelo’s weight advantage and size will work against him because of Floyd’s reflexes and speed. Fighting a fighter with the opposition Floyd has dealt with cannot be duplicated unless you fight those type of fighters. What if Canelo gets cut, dropped, tires, fight plan doesn’t work, gets frustrated, can’t hit Floyd clean. He will never know to deal with these types of situations unless he’s gone through them. Unless Canelo is super talented and athletic, and has more ability than we think, it’s going to be a rough night for him otherwise, Floyd runs away with this one.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:23 am 


Q

TARK: It really may be less than 50%… he’s 36 and his fighting talented men who come into fights in the 170′s… then he’d have to fight a Mathyssee type (if he beats Garcia) who knocks people out from the wind behind his punches, and then there is Broner who is just a pure talent (if that fought happened, and with this declined FMJ) ….if Floyd pulls these final 5 off, against guys like Canelo then Lucas/Garcia (I like Garcia, he’s really good even if he gets stopped, he’s really good IMO) then he would definitely have to be at least in the top 3 P4P by even the biggest haters. This isn’t a POWER PUNCHER fighting a 170 man, this is a BOXER… technically, he should NOT be able to fight a talented LINEAL CHAMPION who is always in the upper 160′s and even lower 170′s and win. He’s really not supposed to win this fight, physically it’s illogical… but he’s just so good talent wise. Canelo really should NOT lose this fight… not to a 36 year old man who campaigned 5 years as a Super. Featherweight and can’t get above 151 pounds and is a BOXER…. Canelo really really should beat Floyd, even if Floyd was a NORMAL top P4P fighter.. but he’s not.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:21 am 


TARK

If Floyd beats Alvarez he most certainly will fight Pacquiao next year. This is if Pacquiao can get past Rios. That’s a lot of things that have to happen, but it is still possible for Floyd to fight Pacquiao next year.

It would probably be in China, and it would be Pacquiao’s last fight, while Floyd still would have 3 more to go. Maybe Matthysse, Broner — and somebody else would have to emerge. Right now there’s not another good candidate unless Garcia beats Matthysse…or Trout looks great in a comeback fight. If Alvarez, Matthysse or Broner beat Floyd he might want a rematch. Or if any of these fights are close or controversial, the public might demand a redo. The chances of Floyd getting through his contract and retiring undefeated are less than 50%. But there’s a chance he could … and there would be little argument about who the GOAT is.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:13 am 


Q

and RG is a pure counter puncher like JMM

Posted June 6, 2013 1:12 am 


Q

zera: I don’t want Arum to die, for starters, just to see a fight, jaja. And Manny 2009 Vs. a prime FMJ on his A game… I’d pick FMJ… because he doesn’t have to really commit to land, and he can dance around all night with those long arms and all his him. Manny of 2009 was still the same Manny that was struggling with JMM stylistically. He could never run through JMM… so I wouldn’t think he’d run through FMJ… although styles make fights. I think RG would have beaten that MP P4P. He’s a faster counter puncher than JMM.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:12 am 


Q

Zera: thank you, that’s all I’m saying. The games from both times perhaps down the line is one thing, plenty conflicting stories between the two camps (lots of internal conflicting stories in camp paquiao, jaja) and NOW his team request testing. I’m not even going to pretend I think he was ever juicing, but them now having Rios test, after not agreeing to testing during the first FMJ negotiations, just is really ridiculous. That’s extreme hypocrisy. People want to say “now look who has a catchweight” (Canelo’s team requested it and it’s still more favorable to Canelo other catchweights) but it can also be said “now look who wants random testing.” They think JMM was juiced up, and NOW they realize and RIGHTFULLY, I don’t blame them.. that everything SHOULD be on an EVEN PLAYING FIELD, and that’s that what you play mind games with, this is a SPORT, and you don’t crap on a sports INTEGRITY. But I guess it doesn’t matter anymore.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:08 am 


zera

I really hope Arum will die soon, for MP and FMJ to happen. but still, FMJ will make MP miss and miss all day everyday, this comes from a PACQUIAO FAN, believe me, FMJ is on different level.

but i still have my doubts when:

MP version 2009 vs FMJ any version.

MP throws 7 punches, i guess not all will miss… that made the MP vs FMJ appealing and a sell out… what do you guys think?

Posted June 6, 2013 1:05 am 


zera

Q: yeah, it is FMJ’s timing that made him very difficult to deal with.

to be honest i’m a Pac fan, been hooked to boxing because of him (all action, no hugs and kisses inside the ring). i’m no expert or what, but from what i saw, Manny did decline the test, now he is actually asking for it (rios fight) WE don’t know if he’s on PED’s or not. if he really is, he deserve what JMM did to him, hyprocy at it’s finest.

Posted June 6, 2013 1:00 am 


Q

hecdog: You gain experience by FIGHTING good fighters. Canelo has over 40 bouts. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr was able to win on the big stage against a few names after his SLEW of cabdrivers padding his resume, so Canelo’s cab drivers + Trout counts (and two wins against Miguel Vazquez long ago who is now an elite in his division). You don’t cry about inexperience in these cases. With OTHER fighters even other GREAT fighters, these are the situations where you say “the young lion may beat the old king” or in this specific case “will this be too much for the aging lion at this weight against a young lion this size” ….there can be NO excuses for Canelo. Floyd has the experience and pure skill advantage easily, and Canelo easily and in grand fashion has the size and youth advantage. It’s WORSE for the skilled man because he CAN be going to a weight against the size of man where he can’t be as effective from a physical standpoint. Canelo doesn’t have that problem, he just has to WIN or LOSE in his weight range and where he can be at his physical best. FMJ no. No excuses at all for Canelo.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:57 am 


Q

TARK: Keep coming at me, but I formed my opinions based on the ENTIRE PICTURE. Who hurt Floyd? Floyd has been wobbled in TWO BOUTS… out of all his fights against all the champions. That was against Corley (who had Cotto wobbling around the ring FORREAL, the same Cotto that TROUT couldn’t hurt in his 154 bout, the same 154 Cotto who was wobbled and out on his feet against the smaller FMJ). You point out Trout being a southpaw, but that’s WORSE FOR HIM in terms of being hit with a right hand, and if Canelo was as accurate as you let on with his right hand he would have hurt Trout more than the time he dropped him (Trout was STILL able to lead and attack… and this being a guy that doesn’t have power)… he was rushing in attacking because the cards were in his head and he left himself open for shots, uppercuts and such. You’re telling me that Canelo’s right hand is more sudden than FMJ’s? I didn’t ask you who hits hard, obviously the 170 pounder hits harder, but FLoyd consistently lands TONS of right hand leads on his opponents SOUTHPAW or ORTHODOX. I DO think that FMJ could hit Trout more than Canelo with his right hand. Yes. Were you joking or something? And back to Floyd being wobbled by Corley (who hurt Cotto worse, the Cotto that Floyd hurt also.. the Cotto that landed MORE on trout, and the Trout that couldn’t hurt Cotto as much as Floyd with any one punch) and SSM who had just OBLITERATED the most renowned chin in boxing. Compare THAT to CANELO being knock flying backwards and hurt from a Jose Cotto left hook (Jose Cotto a career Jr. WW fighting Saul a Jr. MW) you were saying? Explain again please….

Posted June 6, 2013 12:50 am 


hecdog

Tomato Can, you’re funny. ESB apologized to me immediately.

Spartacus65, I’m good my friend. I like your post. A lot of truth in it. Manny Pacquiao was sensational, and IMO will come back and do some amazing things still.

Ghetto Thug, don’t forget Manny Pacquiao, he’s coming back with a vengeance. As far as Mayweather goes, I’ll give him credit for taking on a young strong, but very inexperienced Canelo, but who knows, this fight may have a few surprises.

MannyKnowsPeds, Manny is either number 1-2 or 3. I’ve studied this a lot.

Largo, just had a check up last week, all is well. My doctor also agrees with my Manny Pacquiao ranking. Life is good.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:45 am 


Q

PEEJ: You’re right. It likely won’t happen. Arum doesn’t like Showtime, Arum doesn’t like FMJ, and Arum doesn’t like GB. Games games games. The fight will NEVER happen. I remember how they were moving Manny’s fight date around from when they thought Floyd would go to jail, to when they find out his not. They were lying about how long he’d take to recover from a cut because they didn’t want Manny in their with Floyd after the 3rd JMM bout I believe, that’s when it sank in for them that FMJ may be too much because although they THOUGH Manny had passed having tooth and nail bouts with JMM, they were proven wrong. Arum will keep Manny fighting in house and making sure that FMJ NEVER puts Manny Paquiao on his resume, if for nothing more than to spite Floyd. That fight won’t likely happen, you’re right. Manny would have to do something drastic for HIMSELF FOR ONCE, but it won’t happen most likely.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:38 am 


PEEJ

Floyd is not gonna fight Manny. Arum doesn’t like Showtime and Floyd is no longer fighting on HBO. Plus lame ass Arum has already came out and said that the fight will never happen. See that is what is wrong with Pacs camp, you have Arum saying one thing, Roach saying another and Koncz saying another. Then you have Pac saying something totally different. That is 4 totally different answers to a question. Terrible.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:13 am 


PEEJ

Tark, watch the fight between Cotto and Canelo and you will see him wobbled. This is against someone that is not a huge puncher and probably does not punch as hard as Floyd. So he has been hurt and a little staggered. And any fight where you have seen Floyd hurt, he has won the rest of that round. So go ahead and youtube it. It happens between 1:35 and 1:20 of the round.

Posted June 6, 2013 12:08 am 


The El Paso Fight Prophet

Same old lame as commentators sucking each other off. I stopped posting my picks long ago on this site. I just come here for laughs now

Posted June 5, 2013 11:46 pm 


TARK

Q…. “Floyd’s right just flys.” … It does??? … Maybe not as fast as Canelo’s right.. Canelo staggered Trout several times and floored him once.. That sizzling right which dropped Trout got there in a hurry that Floyd might not be able to match, if he had to fight somebody of Trout’s height, size, speed, defensive skills, and southpaw stance.

I’ve seen Floyd, staggered, dropped, hurt, wobbly legged, and doing the dipsy-doodle… Never saw Canelo in any of those circumstances — even though he fought and beat a man who conclusively whipped Floyd’s self proclaimed toughest opponent.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:40 pm 


Q

I’m done. Peace.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:32 pm 


Q

Let me be the first 1: I think so also, as long as Floyd doesn’t fall off in this bout, I’d assume he could possibly want MP next (that bout probably was going to happen before Manny was iced). This also being if Manny can come back strong. He has his first chance against Brandon Rios… his Margarito part 2 opportunity. I’ll like to point out, that if he completely leaves Rios a destroyed mess, that would serve to help prove that styles do in fact make fights and he is at the END of his prime, but not any “done” fighter. He’s getting to fight a flat footed fighter for the first time 3 years. If he destroys him, it will serve to hurt him in a way. But of course it will be more of a good thing than a bad thing. But he’d also maybe like to lose so everyone can say “you seee, he’s done.. he’d never lost to this fighter in his prime”

Posted June 5, 2013 11:32 pm 


Let me be the first 1

I am sure Floyd will fight Manny before he (Floyd) completes his 6 fight deal or after it.

Just watch.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:23 pm 


Q

zera: Speed isn’t Floyd’s bread and butter, it’s his TIMING and punch trajectory. He has perfect execution on his right lead and there is not give on that punch, there is no tell on it… it just flys (and yes it’s always some natural speed behind that)

Posted June 5, 2013 11:14 pm 


Q

Tark: “Trout couldn’t give Canelo a bloody nose… And Floyd couldn’t floor Cotto.” – meanwhile Canelo couldn’t give Trout a bloody nose (like the one I once randomly woke up with). Floyd was fighting a different kind of bout, and he was largely into Cotto (which will warrant being hit more, to land more, this is boxing people get hit). Trout doesn’t fight like that, which is something that STYLISTICALLY helped Canelo’s cause, he doesn’t usually punch to get respect and isn’t that capable of it to an extent. Canelo’s toughest opponent couldn’t hurt a fighter nor land as clean on a fighter that Floyd beat 10 rounds to 2 and had out on his feet in at least one point. It goes both ways. And Canelo STILL got gassed against that guy.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:12 pm 


Q

deven: something else to consider is the styles, and what went on in each fight. Cotto DID touch Trout MORE than he touched Floyd, he caught a couple jabs in the nose from a P4P jabber at 154… Trout is lanky and doesn’t commit and has an awkward style and was heavier than Cotto. Cotto touched him more, it was arguably a closer bout round to round (Cotto won 2 rounds against FMJ) and FMJ DID tag Cotto with more clean rocking shots than Trout, and unlike Trout ..FLOYD had Cotto out on his feet in the 12th round. Trout’s flickly awkard style didn’t get it done against the stronger more talented Canelo with his open scoring and prevent defense. Stylistically, with size not considered, FMJ presents a bigger problem for Canelo than Trout. And he won’t be waiting for right hands against a southpaw turning into the right. And FMJ is with his father again, and he won’t go into this bout with ANYTHING in mind but WIN… not “prove that I can stand here and hurt and stop Cotto this tremendous bully-boxer who weighs a nice lot more than myself” ….I favor FMJ. I could argue that Cotto would do BETTER against CANELO than TROUT did (at least the Cotto that FMJ fought). Who knows.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:06 pm 


Q

PEEJ: One day I woke up and noticed that I’d had a nose bleed. I guess Cotto must have came and “kicked my a**” while I was sleep. I’m still waiting to wake up with a randomly busted eardrum. That dang Cotto.

Posted June 5, 2013 11:00 pm 


Q

spartacus 65: – “in their efforts to smear his name with accusations of Ped usage. No FACTS. JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS to do harm to a man wbo NEVER spoke ill of another fellow pro fighter. To his credit he did not respond by going to the street level gutter that hus rival engaged in . He plodded on and did his job.” – Your bias is so extreme that I’m starting to believe that you may be Asian if not Filipino, and that your views are bias to your very heart… it may not be that, but something is really wrong here, you’re completely bias to the point of irrationality and misinformation. A. Their were NO EFFORTS to smear ANYTHING… MANNY was called on MANNY’S DECISION to DUCK a BLOODTEST, when that was the ONLY THING left in the contract. So yes, eventually after Manny played his games with that, and people came at Floyd he just told it like it is, you’re ducking random testing… something’s wrong, yes your name SHOULD be smeared in this era of drug cheats if you’re ducking test, why? and you’re supposed to be some ambassador for what’s good in sports? The very opposite in this moment, that’s for sure. Then he launches a COURT ATTACK against FMJ instead of TAKING THE TEST. So he disrespects the sport with his test dodging and THEN he wants to go fight in court. The thing is, there would never have been any of that if the test was taken, but Manny and his team wanted to play MINDGAMES, and look how it’s turned out. Now what? TEAM PAQUAIO request for Brandon Rios to TAKE RANDOM TESTING. To ME MYSELF, that’s disgusting. They are a team of hypocrite lying snakes.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:58 pm 


deven

Its not that easy to say because trout beat cotto easily, and Floyd had a more difficult fight with cotto, while canelo beat trout, therefore canelo should beat Floyd . It does not work like that. Styles make fights. I think Floyd wins easily unless canelo somehow magically becomes more aggressive, busier and throws more combinations which he won’t. Its not his style. He will be picked apart and lose by decision.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:58 pm 


PEEJ

So Cotto busted Pacs ear drum and the gave Floyd a bloody nose all in losing efforts. What really does that mean? I’m confused. People get hit this is boxing. Hell I’ve gotten a bloody nose picking my nose. Does that make my hands leather weapons? Should I register them?

Posted June 5, 2013 10:55 pm 


zera

like it or not, everyone is excited when Manny is fighting, win, lose or draw, got your butts on the sits watching.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:48 pm 


Q

Hecdog: You’re welcome, That said. Manny had a great career undoubtedly in perspective, he’s 9 bouts with MAB/EM/JMM is his calling card, and in perspective, the BEST version of EM DID ..CLEARLY beat him. The FACT is that EM moved up in weight I guess because his body was calling for it, then before his rematch with MP he had ALREADY got the crap boxed out of him by Zahir Raheem. Manny was fighting him off a loss and a bad loss before being him in a rematch, then a third match. Zahir wasn’t any big puncher, he just COMPLETELY worked over Morales, THEN MP did. That’s about equal to Manny losing to Bradley (if Bradley had outboxed him clearly) then Floyd fighting Manny and winning AFTER THAT. MAB was a nice win in the first bout, but the second bout MAB was clearly declined, and he was also coming directly off a loss (albeit to JMM) it was a silly rematch. Then his 4 bouts with JMM includes a draw two wins and a KO loss…. with arguably a loss in 3 of those 4 bouts (to ME the second bout was the clearest for Manny). Then Margarito was a destroyed fighter who never did ANYTHING after Mosley destroyed him and his gloves were discovered, and he was also coming of a suspension. ODH was drained to a weight he hadn’t seen in many many years, and was also coming DIRECTLY off a loss. Mosley was coming off a 11-1 lopsided loss and a draw at 154 to Mora (and that fight still sucked). I’ll give Miguel Cotto as Manny’s marquee win, but this is not anybodies P4P number 1 stuff, that’s extreme exaggeration. He WAS however extremely exciting. I assume you’re actually joking however. Or Philipino or something.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:43 pm 


zera

FMJ > Cotto

Trout > Cotto

Canelo > Trout

FMJ > Canelo (for me, close SD)

Canelo is improving in my opinion, but is it enough to beat FMJ?

imagine the version of FMJ that fought Guerrero vs the Canelo that fought Trout…

overall, i hope this will be a competitive fight in a sense that people would be thrilled.

give Canelo a legitimate shot at FMJ, he deserves it, WE WANTED IT, THEY WANTED IT.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:28 pm 


TARK

Trout couldn’t give Canelo a bloody nose… And Floyd couldn’t floor Cotto.

What Trout did to Cotto everyone saw… 118-110 without suffering a bloody beak.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:26 pm 


TARK

My point is Floyd’s admitted toughest opponent was Miguel Cotto.

Canelo’s toughest opponenet made Floyd’s toughest opponent look easy.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:18 pm 


zera

keys to victory:

Mayweather:

1. Speed – this has always been his bread and butter, hit and don’t get hit, the sweet science at it’s best.

2. Elusiveness – last time we saw mayweather got rocked is with mosley, after that mosley is swinging in the air

3. Experience – his been there, done that and got his hand raised 44 times

Canelo

1. Size – make size be his advantage, he is going to take crisp punches from mayweather, but he must bully his way inside

2. Patience – A LOT OF PATIENCE, he will and certainly will miss, he must expect that but don’t let it frustrate him

3. Volume Punching – as i said before, he will miss, punch is bunch miss the first 4 punches land the last 2 or 3. make it count.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:17 pm 


PEEJ

One judge I can agree with, the other 2 should be investigated

Posted June 5, 2013 10:12 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd was on record saying Augustus was his toughest fight also. What’s your point? Cotto also hurt Canelo in there fight but Troit couldn’t. Are you saying Cotto punches harder than Trout? And there are many people who felt that Trout won. So once again what is your point?

Posted June 5, 2013 10:11 pm 


jason

“3 neutral judges” they certainly wernt that..

Posted June 5, 2013 10:11 pm 


TARK

Nope…, You see, Trout is a lot bigger, stronger, and taller then Floyd.. Trout goes 171.. Floyd goes about 150 for this fight with rocks in his pockets.. If Canelo could convince 3 neutral judges and 3 American expert commentators that he beat the bigger and stronger Trout, they might pay attention as the Kid nails Floyd with some big shots too.

Floyd is on record as saying his toughest opponent was Miguel Cotto.

Saul’s toughest opponent made Floyd’s toughest opponent look easy.

Posted June 5, 2013 10:03 pm 


PEEJ

May be the only person to KO him in 10 or so years but Morales boxed his ears off that first fight

Posted June 5, 2013 9:59 pm 


Public Enemy

Tark – There hasn’t been a reigning unbeaten mexican Champion since the 90′s.. It’s been so long that Mexicans have to bring back 40 year old Boxers to try and make some noise.. all new up and coming Mexican Prospects have imploded over the past 12 years… like Victor Ortiz, Fernando Lardass, Arreola, Leavanu, Angulo, all the Diaz Brothers, MargaCheato, Chavez Cheato Jr. etc etc etc and soon Canelo…

Posted June 5, 2013 9:57 pm 


jason

i watched the trout fight recently closely, i though trout won, it was close, but he was the far busier fighter, and last time i checked jabs are scoring punches and he was the one forcing the fight on the most part.. and the stats say he threw nearly twice as many punches and landed a hell of a lot more… and if trout can beat him to the punch, mayweather defiantly will

Posted June 5, 2013 9:53 pm 


jason

te tumbo – use your brain… peds take time to work, and they sure as hell take longer than two weeks to have any affect… dont be so gullible … it was a mayweather mind game pure and simple.. if you know anything peds you would know that, so obviously you dont.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:45 pm 


hookoffthejab

JMM is deserving of a his place amongst the BEST where is Canelo certainly in NOT …..

Posted June 5, 2013 9:40 pm 


hookoffthejab

Canelo whipped Trout ? Tark must have been wearing his grandmothers rose tinted glasses while watching that fight ……

Posted June 5, 2013 9:38 pm 


TARK

So everybody admits Pacquiao beat Bradley… And Juan Manuel Marquez is the first man in 15 years to put Pacquiao down and TFO. The only man in World History to hit Pacquiao in the head and flatten him for 10 … let alone 1000.

So where does that leave 40-year-old Marquez ahead of his fight with Tim Bradley? He could become a 5-Division World Champion which would be unprecedented in Mexican History.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:35 pm 


Hidalgo

“I’m HAPPY that everyone is beginning to realize that Floyd is the GOAT.” Oh, quit your bleating.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:29 pm 


TARK

Public Enemy… When Canelo whipped Trout he already became the most recognized 154-pound World Champion. So there’s no drought going on.

What is so hard to understand about that? The man Floyd beat to become 154-pound Champ was conclusively whipped by Trout.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:28 pm 


Hidalgo

“But Paquiao Kicked a lot of Mexican Culito…” And a Mexican knocked Pac’s culito out cold, forever ruining his aura of invincibility.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:23 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Public Enema… Canelo already beat the crap out of a couple of puerto ricans, how many puertoricans have beaten Canelo?? I can understand all your hate to us mexicans, BTW Im not a Canelo fan but i cant stand morons like u

Posted June 5, 2013 9:14 pm 


Public Enemy

What’s going to happen to Tumbo and his Canelo Koolaid drinkin roving gang of Barkin Chihuahuas once Floyd Exposes Mexicos last hope at emerging from their decade long Drought at producing a reigning Boxing World Champion??? It will be so much fun around here.. I just can’t wait…

Posted June 5, 2013 9:10 pm 


PEEJ

No if you listen to any of Trouts interviews after the fight he says he believed he won. But he also says it was a close fight and could of gone either way. 2 of those judges had their score cards filled out already. That was a close fight, a fight I had Trout winning by a round. But one where I can see Canelo winning. Not by no 5 or 10 rounds though. What he said in the ring after the fight was a fighter being gracious in defeat. Something you really don’t see from fighters who think they won none to often. He knew he was gonna lose of course because of the bogus open scoring. Something that should be done away with because it does change the way the fight is going.

Posted June 5, 2013 9:04 pm 


Ghetto Thug

The only way Canelo can win is a la Tarver vs Roy Jones 2, I mean a one punch KO

Posted June 5, 2013 9:01 pm 


te tumbo

Random and MUTUALLY-Applied drug testing is not a “silly” demand. it is a harmless condition that reinforces the integrity of the sport unLESS one fighter has something to hide. based on all of Pacquiao’s* bogus excuses and subsequent lawsuit to stifle the condition, he’s the most suspect of all professional fighters currently competing in the sport when it comes to satisfying the anti-doping criteria.

Posted June 5, 2013 8:33 pm 


jason

i dont think he is the GOAT simply because his biggest live challenge – pac – he came up with silly demands, he should have just signed the deal and got in the ring years ago… but he may well be the most talented

Posted June 5, 2013 8:14 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I’m HAPPY that everyone is beginning to realize that Floyd is the GOAT. No other 147 pounder can beat Canelo with EASE. Marquez and Broner can beat him but it wouldn’t be EASY for them. This Fight may actually be too EASY for Floyd. Canelo is just too SLOW which is always to Floyd’s advantage. Carlos Baldomir says that I am CORRECT on that.

Posted June 5, 2013 8:06 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Ariza is as CORRECT as I AM on his pick.

Posted June 5, 2013 7:53 pm 


jason

mayweather will beat canelo with ease.. yes he is heavier, but they are the same height and mayweather has a reach advantage, so its not like he can hide behind the jab like a bigger fighter does against a short opponent… mayweather will beat him to the punch all night i predict… but it still will be a great victory. Mayweather is simply too good, i dont think there is anyone who can beat him.

Posted June 5, 2013 7:41 pm 


jason

Q – do you work for Mayweather ? the way you big him up and his fights is just weird unless you work for him as part of his promotional team

Posted June 5, 2013 7:32 pm 


PEEJ

Well I do see improvements but he is correct to an extent. He won’t become faster on his feet or get any more speed but he can learn to cut the ring off and improve his defense. All this he was moving his head and stuff is going over board. It’s one the to bob and weave while fighting but what Canelo did was just stand there and bob. Now don’t get me wrong that is an improvement but once he heard he was way up he played more defense than offense and it wasn’t like he was making him pay. He needs to learn how to move around the ring and bob. Something he had never shown. Also he has been a pro since 15 and that is another reason why he may of said that. But I hsve seen subtle improvements from certain fights to other fights

Posted June 5, 2013 7:32 pm 


PEEJ

Yes the open scoring affected the fight. First when have you seen Canelo sit back and try to box? Never, he comes forward throwing counters. Trout is a pure boxer but once he found out he was down 4 rounds and Cenelo was up 4 it changed the whole fight. Canelo was first stocking Trout, not doing a great job for he was just following him around. In round five he stayed back and Trout had to come to him, something Trout is not used to and well since 2 of the judges had there cards filled out once they knew they had the gig the rest is now history.

Posted June 5, 2013 7:27 pm 


spartacus 65

Peej,what’s up. Yep. He MUST (canelo) work on that stamina. Im sure his brain trust will address that. They’d better. However this business of being a finished product according to the writer is truly just BAD writing by a thoroughly biased and unprofessional individual. Cheers my friend.

Posted June 5, 2013 7:25 pm 


Mongrel

Floyd should have insisted this fight take place in an outdoor stadium at midday. Canelo would retire on his stool by the 4th round with sunburn.

Posted June 5, 2013 7:20 pm 


te tumbo

“Manny Pacquio will never be forgotten”. then where have all his fanboys gone too? they used to be regular annoyances on this site(?). anyway, an entire nation of boxing-ignoramASSES has been replaced the severe imbecility of a single Cheato TriniDud, Calderon, Lopez, Dulorme, and Rosado fanboy. that is one concentrated dose of STUPID, right there. it literally leaps off the computer screen and envelops your head like a donkey-fart.

Posted June 5, 2013 6:54 pm 


Supreme Court

Tark, when did you reached the conclusion that Canelo was a “boxer”;
Records show that you had never thought so prior to the Trout bout…
Now the question is, can someone become all for a sudden a “boxer” on his 40th fight?
just askin…

Posted June 5, 2013 6:47 pm 


te tumbo

“Canelo did this after learning that two of the judges had given him almost every round of the fight after the 4th and 8th rounds . . . Canelo couldn’t do this if Trout was throwing power shots to his body and mixing his punches up”. how does falling behind on the scorecards discourage(?!?) intensifying your offense? makes no boxing sense at all(!?). besides, the very fact that Trout couldN’T land punches when he NEEDED too IS what highlighted Canelo’s superiority. this whole bogus open-scoring “controversy” has introduced an entirely new segment of boxing-retards to this site. otherwise, both protecting and recapturing the lead in a bout is difficult. indeed. it only hurts when a fighter can only do one and not the other. THAT’s the entire point. Canelo could do both, Trout could apparently do neither very effectively. thus the dominating “W” for Canelo.

Posted June 5, 2013 6:43 pm 


PEEJ

And that there is the problem. Hard to be consistent with stamina issues

Posted June 5, 2013 6:42 pm 


The Best!

Floyd does his best when you let him think. Canelo has to be great on defense but right away come back with a strong offense and not just for spurts. He has to put a lot of pressure on Mayweather, but be smart about it. Canelo cant stand their and admire his own work, he must be consistant.

Posted June 5, 2013 6:28 pm 


RolandoMota

Mayweather will win another boring 12 round UD

Posted June 5, 2013 6:21 pm 


PEEJ

I need to know where all of a sudden Canelo has knock out power. He doesn’t really KO fighters. Not to mention he is fighting much smaller fighters. He has only fought 1 real 154 pounder and yes he got a knockdown in they fight but then was dominated for that whole round once Teout got up

Posted June 5, 2013 6:20 pm 


PEEJ

And if you say Marquez was on something then you would have to also state Manny was in something. Especially since he never wanted to take random testing. The same random testing that Marquez said he would agree to and was all for, the same random testing he is now wanting Rios to do. The same testing he is willing to do now that he has no chance at getting a Floyd fight

Posted June 5, 2013 6:15 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is not an 8 division champ. He is like a 4 division champ I think and then a 8 division titlest. And lets not forget he got his ears boxed off in the first Morales fight. Only reason there was a rematch was first because of the money but second because Morales went toe to toe in the last minute or so and got rocked towards the end. But Pac couldn’t deal with a prime Morales

Posted June 5, 2013 6:13 pm 


PEEJ

Exactly what I have been saying. Canelo does not bob when he is on the move. He only stood there bobbing back and forth when he fought Trout. If he didn’t know the score we would of never seen that. Open scoring sucks

Posted June 5, 2013 6:11 pm 


hecdog

Thanks Q

Posted June 5, 2013 6:05 pm 


hecdog

Manny Pacquio will never be forgotten. The reign of terror he was on while destroying Oscar, Marquez, Barrera, Hatton, Margarito, Diaz, Morales will never be equaled again. Manny brought Boxing to it’s highest level ever. The ONLY 8 time division boxing Champion in history. Speed.power, defense, movement, feints, athleticism. The whole package. Boxing, as well as the world stopped momentarily when Manny was stopped by the cheater, Ped using Juan Manuel Marquez. The desperation a man must have to win all all cost is sad. Manny Pacquio brought so much quality, class, respect, honor, ethics, morals and values only to be defeated by a cheater. And the excuse that he tested negative for all tests is weak if you know about Hereida. I have been contemplating ranking the best fighters of all time. I wanted to reach 20 but reached only to number five. 1.Manny Pacquiao 2. Sugar Ray Robinson 3. Roberto Duran 4. Sugar Ray Leonard 5. Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. I will complete the list at a later time. Manny may still win a 9th belt. By the way, I see Manny all over the tv with Henessy and Pistachio commercials. Hmm….Don’t see Floyd anywhere.

Posted June 5, 2013 6:04 pm 


Q

hecdog: hit F5 key and resend it until it goes through.

Posted June 5, 2013 5:53 pm 


Q

50/50 – Haha… Floyd is taking an abnormal for ANYBODY type risk with this one….. he’s giving up a LOT physically and Canelo CAN fight. But hey… all those names you listed lost at apprpriate weights, so even if FLoyd loses, he’d have lost in an insane weight scenario against the Lineal champ of the 154 division. Floyd can pull it off however, me thinks… I mean, we ALL know one thing, A. Floyd has ATG skills and craft… and B. Floyd is a winner, he HATES to lose, and he NEVER shows up half assing in a bout, he’s always ALL about business in the ring… and if it’s in his ability to overcome a 170 pound hell of a fighter as a WW…. then he will get it done, because that man has one of the all time greatest most focused winning spirits in the history of sports. Box, counter, infight, outside boxing, jabs… right leads… uppercuts.. right hands…. it does not matter what he needs to pull out on you to win, he will to the best of his ability (his great ability) try to nullify everything you have and WIN. Does he hate losing more, or love winning more?

Posted June 5, 2013 5:53 pm 


Tomato Can

Hecdog that’s a good thing. thanks ESB… lol

Posted June 5, 2013 5:46 pm 


TARK

This pundit hauls out the same nonsensically biased brickbats over and over again, every time he writes about Canelo Alvarez.. Things like, “Canelo is only 22, but he’s pretty much the finished product” have appeared again and again.

Why is Alvarez a finished product at 22 years of age??? Explain that?

Canelo is NOT a slugger or a crude plodder like Gene Fullmer, Jake LaMotta, or Arthur Abraham. Canelo is a boxer. He’s a clever technician who loves to surprise and outsmart his opponents. Shane Mosley and Austin Trout gave Canelo a world of credit for being much faster, smarter, and more skilled than they ever expected him to be. These men are highly skilled professional boxers who should know more than you. There is no reason in the world not to expect Canelo to keep improving his all-around boxing skills until he’s at least 30 years old … That’s more than 7 years away so I don’t think a finished product is here yet.

Posted June 5, 2013 5:45 pm 


Boxer

This writer is such a Canelo hater caus doesn’t just write an article he bashes Canelo in every article tells me one thing he’s nervous for mayweather!, at 22 Canelo is a beast and he knows it saying he’s a finished product no my brotha you only wish that he’s a finished product!

Posted June 5, 2013 5:43 pm 


hecdog

Stupid “you’re typing too fast slow down ” has to be fixed. I lost a whole book.

Posted June 5, 2013 5:42 pm 


Q

Floyd was NEVER hurt by Judah, his glove touched because he was basically shoved with a pushing powerless right hook off throwing a body shot and the momentum of both things made that little situation. The only time Judah hurt Floyd was when up power bombed his scrotum. Corley and Mosley YES hurt Floyd. But last I checked SSM had in his previous bout knock the iron out of Margaritos chin and had him on the canvas and TKO’d… and Corley hurt Cotto worse than he hurt Floyd, so he can do that sometimes. But little brother Cotto? Yes, there are other factors as possibilities, but who knows what will happen to him the next time he catches a good left hook, and an actually strong puncher at his weight. We’ll have to wait and find out.. so far he HAS taken the shots well of these Jr. MW’s he’s fought and the probably below average punching Trout.

Posted June 5, 2013 5:37 pm 


50/50

Can’t believe floyd giving 5′pounds away to 2 he seems to be hopeless in neg , I pick Alvarez to win big and at 36/37 this is suicide ! I watched the trout fight this guys a monster some say he is too young wasn’t Tyson unbeatable at 20 , hope floyd pulls it off would like so see a great fighter go out on top for a change not like Oscar ,rjj,PAC,Tyson,ray l,ect

Posted June 5, 2013 5:27 pm 


Green

It’s just good that this fight is happening.

Posted June 5, 2013 5:02 pm 


Green

BRICK CTIY:
Every fighter can be hurt and knocked down. It happens. Floyd was hurt by Corley, Judah, and Mosley.
Ali was knocked down by Sonny Banks and Henry Cooper.
List goes on and on. It happens.

There is also the weight issue: Was Saul at a healthy weight? Struggle to make weight and you will struggle to take a punch.

Posted June 5, 2013 4:59 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

mma fighter u still hatin?

Posted June 5, 2013 4:55 pm 


Mma fighter

I guess they shouldn’t fight since everyone knows who is going to win

Posted June 5, 2013 4:50 pm 


BRICK CTIY

by a left hook

Posted June 5, 2013 4:43 pm 


BRICK CTIY

To all you Canelo fan, youtube canelo hurt by cotto. he was hurt bad in round one by migeul cotto’s younger brother and a smaller fighter

Posted June 5, 2013 4:43 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

@hecdog HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA PURE GOLD lolololololol Pedquaio isn’t even in the top 25 of all time

Posted June 5, 2013 4:16 pm 


Publicenemyisdumb

Happyboy how long have you been watching boxing ? For your information 90 % of Floyds Ko’s are at 130 and 135 Since going up to Welter his only Ko is that of a Jr welter named Hatton. Ortiz doesn’t count cause that was a sucker punch. Both of those guys came from 140. Floyd has never knock out a true 147 pounder or 154 pound fighter now go back to watching Rap videos on MTV where your low IQ brain is better suited

Posted June 5, 2013 3:59 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

surprise! surprise! surprise!

Posted June 5, 2013 3:56 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Ariza most likely thinks Pacquiao can beat Canelo as well I bet

Posted June 5, 2013 3:52 pm 


Encrypted

Ariza is right on the money. Canelo the ginger bread man only showed head movement around the 4th round. Before that, he was swinging wild punches.

Posted June 5, 2013 3:41 pm 


largo

you & Q need psychological help without delay…

Posted June 5, 2013 3:23 pm 


Happyboy

Canelo is considered to be very powerful yet he only has 4 more KOs than Floyd who has only two more fights than Canelo but a much better resume. Canelo has also been picking on much smaller fighters in JWW & WW. Is he really that powerful? His no Matthyse judging by his record.

Posted June 5, 2013 3:21 pm 


largo

“Pac..probably the best of all time..” hecdog, you’re officially insane.

Posted June 5, 2013 3:19 pm 


Ghetto Thug

hecdog, Pacquiao your greatest fighter ever took a nap and the whole world is forgeting about him very fast, only a few fanboys still remember him, BTW many people is giving the King Money May what he deserves, once after he beats Canelo many people will change his toughts about him but some more will keep hating and giving lame excuses

Posted June 5, 2013 3:19 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Is that pic from a press conference and if so, did those chicks provide hand jobs with lunch?

Posted June 5, 2013 3:18 pm 


MannyKnowsPEDS

surely they wont use open scoring in Vegas never seen it for big events

Posted June 5, 2013 3:14 pm 


hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter of the last decade, and probably the best of all time, but Ariza is a jackass, and I wish Roach would have gotten rid of him awhile ago. He’s nothing more than a glory hound, and his boxing opinions means nothing. Why would anyone ask his boxing opinion? How many fighters has he ever developed. Stick to conditioning, which is all you know..

Posted June 5, 2013 3:02 pm 


Hosteen

Of course Mayweather is going to win – Most likely a decision – Don’t know why there is any suspense!

Posted June 5, 2013 2:59 pm 


Joseph Herron

Power is the ultimate neutralizer…Canelo has knock out power in both fists. This will be a much tougher fight than most anticipate.

I can’t believe there are still some writers who don’t want to give Canelo the appropriate credit for his victory against Austin Trout. It’s insulting to both Canelo and Austin…shameful!!

Posted June 5, 2013 2:47 pm 


murderman

canelo may soon be the p4p king. of course after floyd retires!

Posted June 5, 2013 2:47 pm 


murderman

Skills pay bills all day! But canelo is the truth! this will be a tough fight

Posted June 5, 2013 2:41 pm 



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