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gold

Hidalgo…..an absolute, on point post!!! FACT!!!

Posted June 29, 2013 9:43 pm 


Happyboy

We all have angels and demons within us but it’s the choices that we make that define us and cause unfortunate circumstances.

Posted June 21, 2013 4:50 am 


Bobonkiti

The is the worst post that any human being can write. I bet you, whoever wrote this is definitely a mammal that hates the progress of all human beings that are successful not just Floyd.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:10 pm 


TOO SMOOTH

I am not a Floyd detractor and I thought he lost the first Castillo fight. The only reason why he lost was because he hurt his shoulder. If you listen between, I believe rounds 3-4, he mentions it to his pops. I tend to believe this because the ease in which he won the rematch.

Posted June 19, 2013 9:14 pm 


Hidalgo

Mayweather 86, we have haters like Hidalgo that claim Marquez took
Mayweather lightly and that’s why he lost.. ” I never said any such thing SRedmond.

Posted June 19, 2013 7:31 pm 


The Prince

An athlete or celebrity that’s hated worldwiide, doesn’t have over 4 million twitter followers. Doesn’t have positive comments on his training and commentary videos either. Sure, you have the obvious haters, but the overwhelming comments support Mayweather and his career. As far as how he acts outside the ring? Miguel Cotto said it best during their Face Off: “It’s his money, he can do what he wants with it.”

Posted June 19, 2013 7:25 pm 


bronersboner.

most of floyds life is probably boring.he just runs the pantomime.after its all over the fighting mentality will leave him and a different generation will admire his skills and judge him on them alone.just like ali was hated.hes now loved.redemption comes to all.just enjoy the hype and see where he stands at the end.

Posted June 19, 2013 7:01 pm 


don’t like

He’s a woman beater. In front of his kids .

Posted June 19, 2013 5:28 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

I respect Floyd Mayweather Jr’s ring skills BUT not more then that. I disslike his way of potraying himself outside the ring. I don’t like his “f#ck you” attitude. I hate his way of desperetly trying to make himself look like the best fighter out there without ever have conqerd all major world title belts or have cleaned out a division of top fighters. I lost much respect for him when he time-after-time after-time having walked away from fighting Manny “Pac-Man” Paquiao when he still was the big dog in the league. I disslike his way of desperetly fighting for keeping his precius “0″ on his record = A undeferated record is not much worth in the end if you avoid the thretning challanges in boxing and he does that all the time. Paul Williams and Paquiao was just 2 good ones to name here. In my own oppinion, the most tallent fighter still active is old legend Bernard Hopkins. Hopkins is 48 years old, became for a 2nd time oldest champ in history of boxing and still beats the young stronger fighters, that is something Floyd Mayweather Jr only can dream to achive. Then another thing that makes me tired of him and that is his GREED. Mayweather Jr is so greedy that you just want to go away and make all people realise that and to do the same.

Posted June 19, 2013 5:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Ridiculous commentary from a silly sniping poster with no gravita’s…. Ledermans a FORMER judge and 3 other judges disagreed with him… But it’s been what 10 years since then? Where is the LOSS that’s actually on the books? Not a fantasy of a washed up fighter from
10 years ago… The P4P King is about to cash another FAT check on the back of an Undefeated bigger 22 year old… Why not try selling him beating FMJ as opposed to telling fables about Castillo who sports 2 losses to Mayweather?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!

Posted June 19, 2013 4:56 pm 


Castilly-O

Lederman had it 115-111 Castillo.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather 86, we have haters like Hidalgo that claim Marquez took
Mayweather lightly and that’s why he lost.. These sorts have no sense of reality and dispatch credible arguments in lieu of fiction… The most talented fighter, biggest payday of his career and Marquez was dragging his feet? Nutcases who will stop at nothing..

Posted June 19, 2013 3:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Really??? Only Blind people or Bigots could see things in a manner you disagree with?? They have to see EVERY round your way?

Posted June 19, 2013 3:16 pm 


Ringo

Snap! 115-113 Castillo. 116-112 Is also perfectly acceptable. Only a blind person or a bigot could score that fight for Floyd

Posted June 19, 2013 2:45 pm 


mayweather86

I agree sredmond. I think were def on the same side here. Although the first castillo fight was close as I scored it 115-113, were talking a difference of 1-2 very close rounds. I certainly didn’t fly out of my chair going omg r u kidding me when Floyd was announced the winner. I woulda been ok either way. Some of these “experts” below and u kno who they are claiming castillo was robbed are just flat out ignorant. Floyd was also fighting one handed in 1st bout and the difference was obvious in the second bout which I had 118-110 for Floyd. My point in being was opinions are like a**holes everyone has one. But the only ones that matter are the judges at the end of the day. Using poor judging as an excuse is just a cop-out bc they can’t find another way to validate the argument.

Posted June 19, 2013 2:12 pm 


SREDMOND

I NEVER agreed that ANY of the Pacquiao vs Marquez bouts were robberies because depending on what judges favor aggression or precision you are gonna have differing opinions but trying to sell a runaway winner absent the SUPER conclusive last bout is pure bias… Castillo’s body punching is simply NOT gonna garner the same respect CLEAN headshots often do that just boxing… The holy GRAIL of a fight is a guy getting punched in the face…. Castillo LOST and when given another chance to reclaim his belt he lost even WORSE… This fight is not a Lewis/Holyfied I or even a Pacquiao/Bradley where the outcome was so bizarre people dismissed… OF course anti-Mayweather factions are gonna act like Castillo was a RAPE victim when the truth is this is NOT about justice for Castillo or boxing its about HATING Floyd Mayweather… Castillo is a LONG irrelevant fighter maybe we should give him a trilogy and let Floyd pound whatever his left of his faculties into the cement…Castillo is NOT even the best fighter that Floyd faced GET real…

Posted June 19, 2013 1:15 pm 


mayweather86

Let me clear some stuff up for you fellas whining about decisions. I had castillo winning the 1 st bout 115-113. And I’m a huge Floyd fan obviously. I had Pac beating Bradley 117-111. Don’t agree Mathyesse beat Alexander, had that a draw. Now to do u kno how much my opinion matters. Not one bit. Neither does yours. U gotta come to that realization at some point. Coulda, woulda, and shoulda don’t matter. At the end of the day the judges are really all that matters. So please stop trying to use that as an argument, its irrelevant. Not going to change the record books no matter how much you whine and b**** about it. Put your big boy pants on and find a more credible way to make your argument

Posted June 19, 2013 1:07 pm 


Junio

Kontiki:

Floyd won the decision on the cards but lost in some fans eyes; that’s boxing when it goes to the cards- it becomes subjective.

If we were to judge it by what the fans see and not the judges (who are mostly Not “experts” either unless they were former boxers themselves)…then we would have to rewrite the history books because many fighters have won decisions they probably should not have won. And I’m talking about undefeated fighters and other “HOF” level fighters winning on the judges cards but not necessarily on the “majority” of the fans’ cards.

It happens.

The good deed on Floyd’s part was at least to give Castillo an immediate rematch. Not all fighters do that. And not all fighters who do give an immediate rematch win the second fight convincingly like Floyd did.

Posted June 19, 2013 12:19 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

And remember Bill, Tard knows a lie when he hears/types one. Where’s your bet ticket, liar?…

Posted June 19, 2013 11:43 am 


Tomato Can

I’ve never seen a poll that sugested most fans thought Castillo won the first fight. I’ll agree that all Mayweather detractors think that Castillo won the first fight. But those same one’s will tell you that Delahoya almost won, Ortiz deserves a rematch, and Judha got a legit knockdown. So, It’s really hard for me to pay much attention to those type fans.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:31 am 


$1 Bill

Mayweather was the cash cow remember. He was being built up to be the face of the sport. Do you really think they were going to give the decision to a Mexican they couldn’t make a dime of? We see this happen in the sport all the time. Take Mayweather mark 2 Adrien Broner for example, he was the recipient of a highly controversial decision that most fans thought he lost against Daniel Ponce De Leon.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:25 am 


$1 Bill

Most fans thought Castillo beat him. I’m sorry but that’s just the reality of the situation.

Mayweather admitted he lost during a television interview a few months after the fight.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:18 am 


TARK

10 cent Bill…. Mayweather never said he lost the 1st Castillo fight… That’s a bald faced LIE on your part.

In 2 Mayweather-Castillo fights there were 6 judges — NONE of them had Castillo winning either fight…

2 UD’s for Floyd.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:10 am 


ST

Floyd did not admit he lost that Castillo fight. He said it was close and he would turn around and do it again. And he dominated Castillo in the rematch.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:01 am 


$1 Bill

Most thought Castillo won that fight and it’s not open for debate. Even Mayweather admitted he lost. Quit hugging those nuts nut-huggers.

Posted June 19, 2013 10:56 am 


$1 Bill

Toney was on steroids for the Jirov fight.

Posted June 19, 2013 10:51 am 


TARK

Harold Lederman—had the Toney-Jirov fight a DRAW… Toney landed 150 more punches and the judges all had Toney up by a ton of points because he dominated the fight, scored a knockdown, emerged unhurt, and almost knocked Jirov out.

Harold Lederman—had Ricky Hatton beating Floyd Mayweather after 6 rounds…and Floyd landed better, harder, and more punches in each round.. Lederman gave Hatton the 1st round—where Ricky was out punched 21 to 5.. Lederman continued to think Hatton landed a left hook after the slo-mo replay clearly showed the punch missed Floyd entirely.

Harold Lederman—had a weight drained Paul Williams beating Carlos Quintana… Almost EVERYBODY else had Quintana winning easy.

Harold Lederman is a blind, ignorant, idiot who never boxed.

Posted June 19, 2013 10:42 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd does NOT only make $$$$ “Crying Queen/Lion King) he is rated P4P number one in the World and enjoys that respect from his peers in the sport.. Like the dimwit you are something told you to LAMELY look outside of boxing to make your point… Plenty of Stock Market gurus and manipulators made $$$$ also but in the World of boxing Floyd reigns Supreme…. Let that simmer in you addled brain as you vainly rewind the Castillo fight with a fistful of lube…

Posted June 19, 2013 10:27 am 


Tomato Can

For the record, I saw Castillo/Mayweather 1 115-113 for Mayweather. However, there were several close rounds, which the HBO crew all gave to Castillo. In any case, the rematch erased any questions concerning the match up.

Posted June 19, 2013 10:10 am 


SREDMOND

Saying “Everyone thinks Castillo Won” is PURE nonsense… Because I dont, neither did the judges and millions of people.. Close fights always generate controversy a TRUE robbery there is no room for intelligent debate… Castillo was given a second chance and he was defeated even more easily it’s 2013 and Floyd Mayweather has lost a single card and NO FIGHTS in his career or Draws… An amazing achievement for a guy dispatching World Class and HOF level comp… At an age where Ray Leonard and other Greats were SHELLS we have BUMS like Hecdog and others conspiring to have the older fighter change his style to disadvantage himself against FAR younger and bigger opponents.. But it’s Floyd’s world and he fights within himself not catering to those who want to see him broken and brain damaged… Time might catch him in the not so distant future, but it won’t be Canelo Alvarez…

Posted June 19, 2013 9:22 am 


SREDMOND

Guys want Mayweather to negate his own advantages in the ring to accommodate another fighters style that’s desperation… We have FAKES like Hecdog who loves the very defensive and economical Rigondeaux but wants Floyd to fight like Gatti… Well we saw what happens when a Gatti type faces an ELITE boxer… He gets ABUSED like Roy Jones said “entirely too much speed”

Posted June 19, 2013 9:11 am 


SREDMOND

Castillo didn’t beat Mayweather EVER he lost to him 2x more convincingly the second time… This SAD notion and fallback for Mayweather detractors has yielded them no cache… Castillo’s vaunted pressure style has resulted in loss after loss for fighters and the “Fight in Spurts” Canelo is gonna just be the latest victim… “Game Plan” Mayweathers gift is that he quickly takes your measure and begins picking you apart and out thinking you… Canelo has 3 rounds to score a KO or he might as well pack it in… Floyds the rising tide in all his fights and by the 8th round all his opponents are pretty much done mentally young Alvarez stands little chance of being the exception he’s too slow.. I see a Diego Corrales like domination coming for FMJ then we are on to the next guy that dudes think is the man… Even getting older if he stays at 147 for the rest of his career the odds of him losing are low..

Posted June 19, 2013 9:07 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Who gives a flyin’ F that Floyd makes loads of money. The richest man in the world is a Mexican by the name of Carlos Slim and he’s worth 76 Billion. The two richest Americans are Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and they’re both worth 50-some Billion.
Their fortunes make Little Floyd’s look like a Boy Scout’s coin collection.

54-year-old Madonna was the highest paid singer/musician in the world as of 2013 — if you can believe that. Fact. Does that mean she’s the most talented singer/musician who ever lived? I don’t think so.

So Floyd’s income is no reason to go around Tonguing his Bung all the time like he’s your very own rich uncle about ready to leave you a Mega-Million $$$ inheritance. The guy probably wouldn’t flip you 50 cents if you were homeless, starving and sleeping on a street corner down the street from his mansion in Vegas.

Posted June 19, 2013 8:46 am 


Done deal

Can’t knock a fighter because he doesn’t fight how YOU want him to fight. Boxing is one fighters style and skill vs the other and Floyd’s style and skill is light years ahead of his opponents. 44-0 with 8 world titles and absolutely dominates thes best fighters in the sport. Regardless of attitude, style, and charisma that is what’s undeniable. If he retires undefeated he will be King period end. The writer is right, the fans do decide. Floyd is the highest paid athlete and boxer of all time. To me the fans are talking loud and clear.

Posted June 19, 2013 7:38 am 


choky

very good article – agree with almost everything -

Posted June 19, 2013 5:23 am 


Zuks

Marquez was robbed MANNY times!

Posted June 19, 2013 4:14 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

EVERYONE freely and openly admits that Castillo lost their second fight. But… he didn’t lose the first fight. The record books will also show that Alexander beat Matthysse and Kotelnik, and that Bradley beat PacMan. However, everyone with a pair of eyes, who knows how to score a fight, knows that those were three robberies.

There’s NO WAY on earth that Bradley should be undefeated and Alexander should have just 1 loss. TB clearly lost to PacMan and the fight vs. Provodnikov should’ve been scored a Draw. Ruslan deserved a rematch for quite nearly beating TB that night.

Posted June 19, 2013 4:08 am 


Zuks

Prince: They are just trying to change history which is very impossible. Records will always reflect Money May as the winner in both fights against Castillo much like as Manny will be reflected as the winner in the fights that Marquez was cheated. BUT history will also reflect Marquez as the man that knocked Manny out COLD.

Posted June 19, 2013 4:03 am 


Zuks

Geez now this is about Manny…WOW! There is only one Mayweather

Posted June 19, 2013 3:58 am 


The Prince

And I love how haters keep bringing up Castillo, as if Floyd ran away after the first fight and didn’t give Castillo a rematch to prove he was the better man. Haters love to pretend that second fight didn’t happen.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:54 am 


The Prince

For someone that has over 4 million twitter followers telling him how awesome he is everyday, I would love to see how many followers Floyd would have had if he was loved instead of “hated”.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:52 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

That is just your opinion, TARK. Many, many fight fans who also know how to score a fight saw Castillo winning their first fight. Harold Lederman had Castillo winning 115–111. Compubox statistics showed that Castillo landed MORE OVERALL punches and significantly MORE POWER shots over the course of the entire fight. The UD Decision for Floyd was loudly booed by his hometown crowd after the announcement.

IMO, the title of “GOAT” will always be reserved for the HWs. Because the best HWs can always beat the best fighters at the lighter weight classes. Not only does size matter, but it mattes a whole lot! Otherwise we wouldn’t hear all the crazy bickering over 2 lbs — as in the Canelo vs. FMJ and Garcia vs. Lopez fights. If 2-7lbs makes a big difference, then 45-100lbs makes a GIGANTIC difference.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:52 am 


gavaniacono

May weather isn’t liked because he doesn’t want to be liked. He is not likable. His public persona at least. There’s a lot of gas in raising the ire of fans lots of cash involved, lots of interest to watch him. Think Ali and eubank who similarly polarized opinion, quite happily, and profitably. It is also possible that May is not just a pretend but a genuine wanker in real life. What does he care what we think as long as we are watching and we are.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:40 am 


The Prince

These articles against Mayweather are laughable. It doesn’t matter if people like him or not. What matters is that he keeps putting butts in seats and he keeps making history as one of the greatest boxers to ever fight in the ring. Him winning or losing to Canelo won’t change that. Especially not at the age of 36 where as an athlete he’s well past his prime.

Posted June 19, 2013 3:39 am 


$1 Bill

Castillo was a clear winner in most people’s eyes.

Posted June 19, 2013 2:29 am 


Anonymous

lederman had castillo winning. nuthugger alert below.

Posted June 19, 2013 2:24 am 


largo

TARK, if he gets KO or loses to Canelo, the case to be the GOAT will be hard to make because Floyd has not been an active fighter, like the old timers & he hasn’t had as many fights, not even close; & some of those greats were undefeated a lot longer with some tough competition…if he gets thru these guys, i think he will, the case will be argued for some years with a very real possibility to get a consensus vote…

Posted June 19, 2013 1:46 am 


TARK

Floyd beat Castillo easily in their first encounter… He won by 5 points and a UD… Floyd controlled the fight.. It wasn’t close but they had an idiot doing the punch stats… Floyd won every round of the rematch, and even Castillo admitts he was way overmatched against Floyd… Castillo is way down the line when you’re talking quality opponents Floyd has faced.

Posted June 19, 2013 1:31 am 


TARK

Floyd may still be the GOAT in 20 years whether he beats Canelo or not…

Remember, Ali lost to Leon Spinks, (6 wins) when he was 36… Leonard lost to Terry Norris, (embalmed by Julian Jackson in a previous fight) when he was 34… Duran has the “no mas” fight, the Kirkland Liang fight, and several other fights where he fought poorly… Hearns was KO’d three (3) times in his 20′s—once by many times beaten Iran Barkley… Ray Robinson shutout by Ralph Jones, who lost his five (5) previoius fights to guys you never heard of… Roy Jones Jr. suffered a couple devastating upset KO losses before he reached Floyd’s age… Hopkins has several losses, even though he’s done the unbelievable for a guy 48… Pacquiao shot at the GOAT went south with his last fight — the 3rd time he was KO’d with one (1) punch… Holmes was beaten by a light heavyweight when he was Floyd’s age… Lewis suffered 2 careless one (1) punch KO losses, and beating those guys in rematches didn’t reverse the losses… Nobody thinks Calzaghe is the GOAT because he never beat a prime fighter who was very good…

Floyd has a couple years and 5 more fights to get through, and he’ll be 37 for his next fight after Canelo… If he gets past this undefeated kid who is 22, but will turn 23 before they fight, he still has some of the toughest opponents he’s ever faced ahead of him in Broner, Matthysse, and if Pacquiao can look great against Rios he’s still an extremely formidable opponent … If Floyd loses one or the other fight — which every other great fighter with 10 or more world championship fights except Calzaghe lost a couple — he could still be considered the GOAT because of the extremely high level of his comp… To this point he beat 5 guys who won world championships in 3 Divisions or more. He’s won 8 world titles in 5 weight divisions while remaining undefeated.

Nobody else has ever done anything close to that.

Posted June 19, 2013 1:21 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

In case you didn’t notice, the title of this article is: “Why We Don’t Love Floyd Mayweather.” Hence my comments about his character/personality.

By the way….Floyd lost his first fight vs. Castillo so his record should be 43-1. If that fight would’ve been held in Mexico instead of FMJ’s backyard (Las Vegas), Castillo would’ve walked away with the W. That I can promise you. Real talk.

Posted June 19, 2013 1:17 am 


Kenny

Mayweather will be remembered for BORING fights always on his bicycle beating up girls and of course he can’t leave boxing before your typical guy going to jail.

Posted June 19, 2013 1:05 am 


hecdog

Hidalgo, I meant Sugar Ray Robinson, Duran, Leonard, and other great fighters of those and earlier eras. They made pennies compared to fighters these days. Duran and Leonard made some decent money, but today’s fighters make so much more

Posted June 19, 2013 1:01 am 


TOO SMOOTH

All nonsense! I don’t care what the man or any other fighter, athlete does outside their sport. I don’t watch to see saintly individuals go at it, I watch to see who the best is. Is he a ducker? I think this next fight is a good one for him, ODH was a good fight, Mosely was a good fight, Cotto was a good fight, Corales was a good fight. Could he have fought better guys, yes but to discredit his entire career as a cherry pick fest is wrong. I guess if you like a guy he can do no wrong, if you hate a guy he can do no right. People can also criticize Pac for making his most memorable and important fights at catch weights, am I right or not? But what Pac accomplished was truly great and nobody should discredit what the man has done. Same goes for Mayweather.

Posted June 19, 2013 12:45 am 


largo

If Floyd wins the fights he has in his contract against the fighters mentioned, EVERYBODY ELSE-the K BROTHERS, BHops, Ward, whoever, will be irrelevant, as far as being considered the greatest of his time, with serious possibilities to be honor the GOAT…I MEAN THAT.

Posted June 19, 2013 12:44 am 


largo

“when all it’s said & done, boxing history books will agree with me’…maybe they will maybe they won’t; if Floyd beats Canelo, Garcia/Mattysse, Broner, Pac & maybe Martinez at 154 & retire unbeaten, he’ll be considered better than all of them. Or at least, the case could be discussed…If Floyd is not KO in the remaining fights he has, he’ll be UP there with all those great fighters, for sure, but tomato can, that’s not something YOU SAW & nobody else. BTW, you skipped my post…so come down a step or two.

Posted June 19, 2013 12:32 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

spartacus 65: Hey, what up brother? That is some very interesting info. about the Mick. I was aware of his accomplishments in baseball, but really knew nothing about his life outside of the game. It takes a BIG man for a rich & famous celebrity to publicly apologize for his misbehavior and tell kids to NOT LOOK UP TO HIM AS A ROLE MODEL. Mick deserved a special award for that move, IMO, Jake LaMotta is another boxer who acted like a real POS. But he, of course, was never at the same elite level as FMJ.

Here’s a litte more info about K2 in case you’re interested:
“Both Klitschko brothers have been involved in charitable activities dedicated to supporting the needs of children throughout the world. Both have formed their own charities that contribute to the needy in Africa and South America. They won humanitarian awards for their “Sport for Good” projects in 2002 and 2007. In 2002, the Klitschko brothers announced that they had agreed to work specifically for UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization), which supports more than 180 projects in 87 different countries.”

It makes you wonder what’s gone terribly wrong with America when kids grow up looking up to gangstas and drug dealers instead of the K-Bros — Dominant ATG Champions who speak four languages, hold PhD’s, and are global humanitarians & philanthropists. Damn It’s depressing to think about, so I’ll stop there. Later man…

Posted June 19, 2013 12:11 am 


spartacus 65

Cont. The Mick publicly apologized for his behavior over the years and also told kids to NOT LOOK UP TO HIM AS A ROLE MODEL. His behavior was not the way to go. Took some guts to do that but he did. Is there a lesson here? Time will tell. Hecdog, yes brother Those WERE REAL FIGHTERS! Goodnight gentlemen.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:32 pm 


Tomato Can

I’m a fan of Hagler, Hearns, Duran. Leonard, Benintez, McCallum, McCory,D. Curry, Starling, Pryor, Aguello, Mugabi, M. Spinks, Bumpus, Norris, Whittaker, Chavez Sr., Rosario, Camacho, Sr., Bramble, Mancini, R. Mayweather, and many more. I have respect for every one of these fighters. Most of them are great fighters, some of them had great nights to remember. But unlike some of you, I see Mayweather, and Pacquiao worthy of being mentioned alongside of any of them. Pacquiao for his tenacity and relentlessness, and Mayweather for his sheer genius ring generalship. Mayweather may not have the Jab and strait right of Hearns, the combination punching Leonard, the hands of stone and fearlessness of Duran, or the toughness and durability of Hagler. But Mayweather is every bit as smart as all of these guys in the ring. That’s what makes Mayweather what he is. Mayweather is every bit as good as anyone I’ve seen in the ring, easy. And like it or not, when all is said and done boxing history books will agree with me.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:31 pm 


spartacus 65

Squared Circle how are you champ. I didn’t know that about the Klitschsko brothers. Very impressive. You are 200% correct there my friend. Being a man takes a lot more than trying to just ACT like how you believe one,should conduct himself in public. On that score Mayweather has NO ONE to blame but HIMSELF. You are correct when you say it isn’t about race. Mickey Mantle for lack of abetter word was a world class jerk to members of the press. The Mick was WHITE. To his credit shortly before his death he

Posted June 18, 2013 11:27 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao is a good politician… He smiles… He does a lot of photos and autographs.. He appears on dozens of talk shows.. He laughs a ton at anything a TV host says.. He has the George Foreman nice guy, fun guy, funny guy thing down to a T.. Foreman read a lot of books on how to “Win Friends and Influence People” and Pacquiao may have done the same thing.. His PR skills are sky high and one of his highest priorities was learning English.. Marquez could have used some of that drive, because he’s a very smart guy who never quit his day job as an accountant. Knowing English might have helped, but Hell, Marquez is rich anyway. He’s been fighting forever.

However, whatever you do or say, you have to keep winning. That’s easy to lose sight of when your days are loaded with appointments and obligations as Pacquiao’s. He’ll probably have a good camp this time.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:14 pm 


Layla Ali

HUH??

Posted June 18, 2013 11:09 pm 


BLUESMAN

@ Jahmal Corner: You can NOT love Floyd Mayweather all you want, but he’s gonna send Alvarez into retirement!

Posted June 18, 2013 11:07 pm 


Hidalgo

“those fighters in those days were real fighters, and they fought for pennies compared to today’s earnings.” Hecdog, my numbers may be off a bit but according to what I could find on the internet, Pacquiao made fighting:

De la Hoya 2008- $11 million
Hatton 2009- $12 million
Cotto 2009- $35 million
Margarito 2010 – $35 million.

So, if you’re talking before 2009 yes, relatively speaking “they fought for pennies” yet Pacquiao was making millions per fight as early as 2006 in his second fight with Erik Morales in which he earned around $2 million.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:54 pm 


hecdog

The Boxing Writers Association Of America in 2009 voted Manny Pacquiao as Fighter Of The decade. He also won the Sugar Ray Robinson award for the third time, Boxer of the year. he had an incredible run. Spartacus 65, those fighters in those days were real fighters, and they fought for pennies compared to today’s earnings. Fans that never had the chance to see them sure missed a lot.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:38 pm 


spartacus 65

Junio hi how are you champ. Just to answer your question, it was the boxing writers association of America that selected Pacquiao for that honor. He was selected over Bernard Hopkins and Floyd Mayweather to name a few for that honor. For the most part he did fight some real heavy hitters while in their prime but yes there were a few that had passed their expiration date so to speak. Shane Mosley comes to mind. As far as being voted by his peers, I will say I respect your opinion. As for Pacquiaos humanitarian efforts as a congressman, yes a big thumbs up. Peace and strength my friend.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:33 pm 


spartacus 65

Darn right about that brother. They sure as hell brought some real old fashioned EXCITEMENT TIMES TEN into the ring when they fought . Used to look forward to seeing all the big names of that era fight on the weekends on FREE television . Even the CONTENDERS back then were some heavy hitters. That’s,what made it so exciting to watch boxing back then. Ted Kennedy God rest his soul befire he passed away predicted that free tv would become a thing of the past. Boy did he call it . Like I said ,good times my friens. Im doing pretty good champ. Hopefully you’re doing well also Hecdog. Peace and strength .

Posted June 18, 2013 10:14 pm 


Junio

spartacus 65 and Hecdog:

Who voted Pac fighter of the decade?
I wasn’t quite clear on who did the voting.
I would particularity like to see voting done by the boxer’s peers only and see what the results would be.
Was that the case for this vote?
I say that because Writers don’t hold much weight to me. They aren’t fighters. Just fans with a pen.
The only “experts” in the field are those that actually are…The Fighters who have proved their “expertise.”

As far Pac fighting All Prime fighters, not exactly. He gets the same criticism as everyone else.

The Great part of Pac is the story of how he rose from a poor kid in the Philippines to World Champion many times over and carved his spot in the World for his humanitarian pursuits.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:10 pm 


hecdog

Spartacus 65, yes, Sugar Ray Robinson was ahead of his time. A truly great fighter that could have held his own with the best ever, and he knew how to box, fight inside, and what a will to win he had. A one of a kid fighter. Those that are objective about Manny Pacquiao will give him his just due. He’s such a humble and modest guy that has that warrior mentality. He fights until then end, and earns every penny he’s ever made. The documentary I watched a few weeks ago on his support and bill he helped pass in congress was great. He was pursuing stricter and more punishable human trafficking laws. This is a major problem all over the world. Manny’s making good positive changes for humanity that will be much more important to society than a championship. I truly respect the person he is, and that’s why I occasionally go over board with praise for the man.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:08 pm 


spartacus 65

Cont. Stand up sportsman and fine ambassador for the sport of boxing. Never has he like some of his peers, made negative or inflammatory, disrespectful remarks towards another fighter. Tothe contrary he has ALWAYS TAKEN THE HIGH ROAD. Even when he was being attacked on a racially ,very ignorant bigoted level by his contemporary Floyd Mayweather, he took the high road. I wish him much succesa in his new career. An argument CAN be made my friend that he DOES belong up.there with the best of them. Peace and strength.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:01 pm 


spartacus 65

Hecdog while I feel that The mantle of greatest pugilist of all time is Sugar Ray Robinson, you DO have a pretty solid factual layout. Yes, Pacquiao was voted fighter of the decade. Yes he HAS won world titles in eight weight classes. Yes, pacquiao has fought a damn who’s who of some serious heavy hitters WHILE THEY WERE IN THEIR FIGHTING PRIME. A few of them several times. And the part I like best,HE WOB SOME AND LOST SOME but GAVE IT HIS ALL. THATS A WARRIOR. As he has pursued his political ambitions it’s fairly obvious to see that he has slowly but surely lost his hunger for the sport. On that topic I must say I really believe thatvthat is where his TRUE legacy will endure. As a congressman he has plav himself in a unique position in which he can help the poor citizens of his country. He is evidently sincere in this and I commend and admire the man for this pursuing this noble cause. Pacquiao has been a standup

Posted June 18, 2013 9:54 pm 


hecdog

Spartacus 65! Those guys were fighters all the way around. Excitement, and skillful combat throughout the fight. Sugar Ray Leonard & Roberto Duran brought a level of intensity that had fans screaming at the top of their lungs. Those were the true boxing years that we may never see again. Hope is all well my friend.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:34 pm 


Junio

But if you also look, those same “haters” who like to pick on who Floyd doesn’t fight, also come up with things to downplay that same opponent when Floyd does sign on to fight him. And that can be during the promotion or mainly after the fight in which Floyd wins.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:34 pm 


hecdog

Gentlemen, calm down. I’m only giving you my opinion that is accurate. Lt me address a few things. First, Manny Pacquiao was voted as the Fighter of the Decade bar none by highly respected people. Manny is the ONLY 8 DIVISION boxing champion in the history of boxing. Manny never avoided anyone. These things alone directly point to Manny Pacquiao being the greatest fighter in the history of boxing. I won’t even address the amazing accomplishments outside the squared circle. I hope this helps clarify some things. Secondly, If Mayweather beats Canelo, Matthysse and Garcia, it doesn’t add much credibility due to the names I just mentioned. These guys aren’t Hall Of Famers. They’re all pretty weak at this point in their careers. Thirdly, Respect my opinion please.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:29 pm 


Junio

Boxer:

Agree: Fights with a Prime Cotto, Margarito, Williams, and we can throw in Pac at his Peak, would have been great to watch, however; boxing is also about Politic$ and things don’t always go as planned.
Now if it was more Floyd not being able to get those fights done or it was down to the politics in boxing with fights between promoters, I don’t know; only they do.

We do know that when Floyd left Arum, besides Floyd taking off in popularity for years to come, the Cotto fight, which was a fight planned for the future when they were both under Arum, came to a close without fans realizing. That was until Cotto left Arum and signed on to fight Floyd in a fight which ended up being Cotto’s biggest payday.

Margarito, Pac, both Arum fighters…have different reasons as to why they didn’t come off.

I don’t think the Margarito fight would have been much of a challenge. Floyd would have used the same strategy as he did when he fought Baldomir.

As far as Williams, that would have been a great fight to take from Floyd (from the fans perspective) since Williams was mainly recognized by the core boxing fans and not by the casual public. But that’s why you have promotions to boost up the opponent, right?
That was a high risk fight and Floyd didn’t take it. That’s the perception anyway.
If there was anything else involved, I can’t recall at this time.

One thing that hindered Floyd was his Inactivity. Fights didn’t happen only because of Politics in boxing; they didn’t happen because Floyd was inactive so each fight made by Floyd was picked to maximize his profit.

The Canelo fight probably did get a heavy push after because of the supposed PPV numbers of Floyd vs. Guerrero.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:25 pm 


largo

havoc & hecdog should be taken thru the back door & put to sleep like old farm horses…

Posted June 18, 2013 9:12 pm 


B Red

Hecdog is a pactard

Posted June 18, 2013 9:11 pm 


Junio

SHavoc:

So more fans pay to see him lose then win?
But he is still making millions, right?

Ali didn’t care and he used this to his advantage (like he learned from Gorgeous George) so as long as he doesn’t mind, it’s not a big deal.

It’s also interesting that the vast majority of Pro Fighters, unlike the fans you speak of, speak very highly of Floyd; even the ones that are “bangers” like Brandon Rios.

So what’s better I ask: Being highly respected amongst your peers {Pro Boxers} who understand what it is like to be a fighter, to train for years, who understand what it takes to climb through the ropes and expose yourself to the audience…OR…a group of “Fans” that do not fight and have a lack of knowledge of what “boxing” is about?

Posted June 18, 2013 8:59 pm 


spartacus 65

Hecdog, good evening my friend. NOW THERE IS SOMETHING I CAN RELATE TO. SUGAR RAY AND DURAN! What a pair of FIGHTERS those two assasins in the ring were. At their absolute prime best, It was a pleasure to watch these two VERY COMPLETE warriors ply their trade. Win or lose you KNEW that you were watching something VERY special . There are several that I could namwho fit that description. Salvador Sanchez being another. What a fighter!! Hecdog, champ,those WERE THE DAYS. Peace and strength.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:55 pm 


Dino

Floyd is a guy that in many accounts could have gone the other way, drugs, stealing and running the streets. He went the boxing route and good for him, he is what 36/37? yet still fighting at the top, he is who he is, many people don’t realize that he does lots of good things too, he made many lives better and is very generous, you can’t knock the young man. He is out here in this rat race like all of us, he done well for himself, good on him.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:54 pm 


spartacus 65

Good evening . First off with all due respect this is a NOTHING ARTICLE. A complete waste of time and effort that could’ve gone into something more worthwhile. One can go pn endlessly abput those who,like and those who dislike Floyd Mayweather. That is an issue that will I suspect be discussed long after he retires from boxing. There are those from the hip hop community who will support him to the teeth simply because they identify with his behavior and that he like,them are a victim of THEMAN. Then there are those,yes, within the African american community who speak out against the negative,stereotypical image he that he presents towards impressionable African American youth. The flashing of money, the ghetto type thuggish ,lack of respect towards others, the need to put himself,out there as a victin of the same man that those who support him claim is out,to keep them down. Then there are those who have an all consuming desire to see him not just lose, but to get badly hurt,in the process. In summary all of the above will go on chasing this wagging tail of a topuc and NO ONES LIFE WILL BE ENRICHED FOR THE BETTER by this. There are far more urgent matters going on in this country than dor anyone to have to be concerned with an article of this nature that is simply serving as FILLER space on this forum. Just food for thought.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:43 pm 


hecdog

The facts about Floyd Mayweather the person hurts, I know that, but there’s no denying who he is. He puts it out for everyone to see. It’s not made up, it’s all factual and true. Hey, Floyd fans must deal with the fact that he has been his own worst enemy by who he is and who he allowed us to see. We only talk about what we see, and what we see in Floyd Mayweather isn’t very positive. All Floyd fans know what he’s all about, “Money.” As far as his boxing skills go, he has a lot. Floyd isn’t as good as say Sugar Ray Leonard. Ray took on everyone, and he was truly respected by everyone. His skills inside the ring were amazing. He was much better in all areas than Floyd Mayweather, but he was liked inside and outside the ring. He had a likable personality that people could connect with. He made lots of money, but never acted foolishly as does Floyd Mayweather. Roberto Duran is another great fighter that stands head and shoulders above Floyd. He fought everyone in site, and beat the best. He was a ferocious fighter that fans loved. The man was all of 5 ft 6 and beat monsters while past hi prime. he was a beautiful machine to watch. he would have destroyed Floyd easily. Tommy Hearns is another fighter that was levels better than Floyd. Loved by fans all over the world and admired for fighting the best. That piston Jab would have ended Floyd’s career within 6 rounds. The right would have stopped him withing 3 rounds. Mosley just about knocked Floyd out badly with his punch, and he didn’t have half the power Tommy had. Julio Cesar Chavez is another guy that was loved by all in his prime. he fought the best and beat the best in his prime. truly respected by fans. He was 3-4 levels above Floyd and would have stopped him before round 10. All these guys were so much more skilled than Floyd. Robinson, Mosely, Norris, Palomino, Cuevas, Pacquiao, Breland, Cotto in his prime, Honeygan to name a few would have beaten Maywether IMO.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:30 pm 


Havoc

Sredmond- that’s a fact! Floyd has 10% fans and 90% haters!

Posted June 18, 2013 8:26 pm 


SREDMOND

So what this is NOT a Miss Congenialty contest its boxing…
Man Up!

Posted June 18, 2013 8:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Man please if he keeps winning any intelligent debate about he and PAC goes out the window… It’s a POOR reflection on Manny that he got knocked cold by a 39 year old version of Marquez who FMJ toyed with when JMM was years younger… Mannys amazing but HUGE cracks in his armor have appeared and a loss to Rios would DOOM him as a HAS BEEN.. We all know that under no circumstance would Pacquaio be able to face a fighter like Canelo YET the older Mayweather is STILL the favorite to win… It says ALOT about perceptions of these fighters as Manny is 34 and Floyd 36 the Mayweather riddle is unsolved while Pacquiao was beaten down by a guy Floyd blanked for 12 rounds

Posted June 18, 2013 8:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Hecdog is NOT a man of the cloth but then again Maybe he is?? The church is riddled with perverts, phonys and hypocrites… He ignores the shortcomings of Pacquiao and all others he favors yet saves his useless fire and brimstone for Floyd Mayweather and others… He is like these CREEPS that love to interpret the Bible in a manner that suits their world view… This is why religion is becoming a JOKE in the US except amongst less progressives… Smart folks see it as a tool being used by subversive elements politically and economically…. Hecdog is no different hiding behind Jesus to sell his brand of bias… He even went after the Great Marquez because he smoked Pacquiao and shames him to his core… Hecdog is like “Jim Jones” with no cult or followers absent the Havocs of the world who would flip a coin between Satan and Mayweather the man is Imbalanced…

Posted June 18, 2013 8:06 pm 


Havoc

Floyd’s greatness comes from cherry picking. His PPV # is from people who wants to see him lose. His skills makes boxing looks like a sports for losers. Boring as hell!

Posted June 18, 2013 8:03 pm 


fast79z

this is the first big fight for floyd in years, he will be ready, may not win but he will definatly be ready

Posted June 18, 2013 8:01 pm 


Havoc

Seedmond- you’re right!!! But you missing one quality Floyd had to achieved what he has now and it comes from his evil ways!

Posted June 18, 2013 7:57 pm 


REM

Simply because the guy doesn’t fight who the public wants him to fight within reason. That’s changing now with Cotto not to long ago and now Canelo but its pretty hard to overcome wasted prime years like he wasted. Maybe not a waste for him he made a ton of money but certainly a waste to boxing taking its respectability as a competitive sport and flushing it down the toilet. At this point all i can give him credit for is his talent he hasn’t proven himself to be the best of this era clearly ducking his fellow lineal champ with every resourse at his desposal.

Posted June 18, 2013 7:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Steve, we are gonna tell the truth in here and you will BOW… Again I’m stating facts Mayweather makes MORE $$$$ sells more fights and is undefeated for 17 years he is P4P #1 and these are truths you are gonna have to accept or be branded A NUT! The sane among us accept reality no matter how we feel about it… Join the party :)

Posted June 18, 2013 7:53 pm 


Jesse

Hecdog = David Duke

Posted June 18, 2013 7:51 pm 


TARK

Hecdog…, You’re assuming everything you say. You just make it up out of thin blue air. You are the last one to judge Floyd because you hate him so much … You said Guerrero would beat him up so bad they would be forced to stop the fight — and you put your money down on it.

How many fans had that prediction??? You’re the only one besides Pat Robertson who believed that a Guerrero win was in God’s plan. RG didn’t even believe that. That was his hook. He needed something. He sucked you in like a putz.

You’re thinking is so warped you can’t tell cheese from grapes.

Posted June 18, 2013 7:42 pm 


hated enemy

He is a SMART fighter,that is why he wins,He will beat canelo just using his boxing intelligence unless canelo cant get him cornered,but mayweather should make this his last fight if he leaves untarnished

Posted June 18, 2013 7:41 pm 


mayweather86

Murderman. Your talking to the wall. Ppl love to hate. Like its a job or something. Or a religion;)

Posted June 18, 2013 7:34 pm 


murderman

Hate floyd? 1st off none of yall dudes ever have or ever will hangout w floyd. So who knows what he is really like? Tv personality n real life are 2 different things. But u cant front on the skills. Best boxer of our lifetime hands down! Stop hating!

Posted June 18, 2013 7:24 pm 


hecdog

Well, I hope Floyd is enjoying hi life. And if he really said what you stated, it’s news to me. First off, he isn’t a King, so he can’t classify himself as on and use God as an example.. Secondly, he can’t say a few kind words and live and act like he does. He seems to be desperate for people to like him because that’s what he really wants. And from what I see on tv, he seems to deeply care about his kids, and that’s admirable, but he’s also been arrested for threatening his kids and mother of his children, so he seems to be his own wort enemy on his own life. He needs to walk the walk and talk the talk all the time. A good example is the legendary Manny Pacquiao. He admitted to the world that he was living a bad life. and was hurting the people in his life that he loved. He turned away from that life and is leading by example. He talked the talk and walked the walk. He repented and is a true role model for everyone. Manny acts, talks, walks and treats everyone respectfully., which is why he is so loved. Floyd envies what he can’t seem to achieve. Watch the hoopla leading up to the fight with Canelo, and sooner or later, you’ll see the real Floyd. Treating people right, doing the right thing and appreciating what you have fulfills your life. Floyd finds happiness and joy in showing of his $ and materials and letting people know how much he bet at the casinos. He showcases his cars and all the temporary fun things he gets satisfaction and joy out of. Did he earn those things? Yes, absolutely. but don’t go around with your ex buddy 50 cent and rap as you flaunt your money to your viewers. Floyd lost him as his friend because of money. I will give Floyd credit for being a hard worker and a very good top 50 boxer. I’ll give him credit for paying everyone’s food bills at the restaurant. I’ll give him credit for having his own jet, I’ll give him credit for giving his mom a wad of bills, I’ll give Floyd credit for wagering $5000 with Miss Jackson on a bike race home and then actually giving it back to her. And Ill give him the most credit for being a proud, boastful money making machine, which I’m certain he is most proud about.

Posted June 18, 2013 7:21 pm 


Havoc

And he will be hate!!!

Posted June 18, 2013 7:01 pm 


mayweather86

Tark on the other hand. While I don’t always agree, you always make a valid argument. In the past decade I’ve been on this site, poster cred has gone way down. Your one of the few left that makes any sense.

Posted June 18, 2013 6:48 pm 


TARK

Hecdog…. It isn’t like that hater.. Floyd is happy.. He’s providing for his kids.. He spends a lot of time with his kids.. He gives them a lot of love and attention.. He’s on top of the world.. If he gets knocked off his lofty perch he’s not goint to worry too much about it either. He’s a human being and not being a winner every day of your life is the lot of human beings. Floyd is content with that.

Floyd said, “Sure I could be beaten. Kings don’t reign forever except for God. All Angels and Men are subject to deterioration, failure, and death — and I never claimed I couldn’t be beaten or would reign forever. I’m doing pretty well though. I’m on top and enjoying my time.”

Posted June 18, 2013 6:43 pm 


mayweather86

Hecdog- all u do is judge others. Lemme explain a little something to ya. I’m perfectly happy to have children, my wife and my modest home. Guess what I don’t have. God, Jesus or any other religious deity in my life. I don’t need to explain to me how to live my life. I kno not to steal, murder etc without any religion what so ever. In fact I can honestly say I’ve been a much happier man since I stopped attending church. Love every second of my life and will die a happy man just the way I am. So please go on defining Floyd mayweather and how satisfied he is based on your book of fiction. I’m not gonna get in a debate about it bc this is a boxing forum, not biblethumpers.com …..talk boxing all you want..save your self-righteous b.s. for Sundays. Thanks

Posted June 18, 2013 6:38 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

“If there is a god clearly he has a fondness for Mayweather who he blesses with riches, women, prestige,and top status in his profession” ??? it doesn’t work like that sredmond, At one time the could have been said about Adolf Hitler, Idi Amin, Josef Stalin, ET Al

Posted June 18, 2013 6:27 pm 


Anonymous

Who is the “we” in ” Why we don’t love Mayweather?” Clearly a biased article.

Posted June 18, 2013 5:57 pm 


lman

Floyd isn’t that bad, he’s actually got his head screwed on better then most high profile athletes and celebrities. As for the hero complex, I think u would have to be pretty naive to expect those kind of qualities from a person trained to hurt another person, as someone below posted, even the good ones have their faults. I would be more concerned and the influence these vacuos reality tv celebrities with no talent have on kids then anything Floyd could do.

Posted June 18, 2013 5:46 pm 


hecdog

Floyd Mayweather has all the money in the world. Fame, a few championships belts in his house and many more materialistic things that most of us will never have. And yes, Manny Pacquiao and Robert Guerrero both men of God did lose their fights. Today, who has more? Floyd Mayweather or Pacquiao and Guerrero? Mayweather searches for peace in his life. He looks for another challenge to overcome. He’s doing it to earn the respect and adoration of the fans, yet he finds himself empty. He’s grasping at the air in hopes of finding happiness, joy and contentment in his life, yet he finds none. Manny Pacquiao and Robert Guerrero on the other hand receive an abundance of love, joy, support, happiness and are embraced by fans all over the world. Their names bring in flocks of people to them. They have some money and fame, but their ethics, morals, values and appreciation of family, friends and life brings them satisfaction and contentment of their lives. What profits a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul? A professional athlete has a responsibility to his fans to do the right thing, treat everyone right and help those that need help. There is no room for egos, money worshipers, greed, and children that disrespect their own father and their elders. I do hope that Floyd finds his way through the forest of temptation, materialism and greed. Life is short, and in the end, all the fame, fortune and materials will mean nothing. The giant ego that was boastful all the days of ones life will mean nothing. Floyd has good in him somewhere. He still is on top, and he still has the opportunity to repent of his evil ways and make a turn around for the best. People will always give you a chance if you come clean. I’m hoping Floyd makes that turn. He is a very good fighter. Definitely a top 50.

Posted June 18, 2013 5:26 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Wait. People don’t love a guy who beats women, smashes champagne bottles on dudes’ heads and has his goon fire guns at roller skate rinks? Shocked.

Posted June 18, 2013 5:23 pm 


TARK

@Hecdog.., LMFAO. You still thinks Pacquiao is number one… Even PACQUIAO ranks himself lower than Floyd.. Pacquiao even said he would take less money than Floyd because Mayweather is universally ranked as the best fighter in the world — ever since 39-year-old Marquez embalmed Pac with a savage head shot. “The Shot Heard ‘Round the World” and one of the greatest punches ever thrown.. But Pac is still a logical opponent for Floyd if he puts himself back in contention.. To get the Floyd fight, Pac only needs to beat Rios.. That is if Floyd beats Canelo.. Good luck to Pac—because if Rios stretches Pac flat, his chances of ever qualifying for the “Dream Fight” with Mayweather are between slim and ZERO.

You’re the biggest hater of Floyd on this site Hecdog… Just like Sredmond is the biggest Vitali Klitschko hater on this site.. You’re both as objective as Rush Limbaugh on the subject of President Obama.

Posted June 18, 2013 5:16 pm 


Havoc

Sredmond- Floyd can’t sell his fight by just his skills. He need to anger a lot of people and learn and use the way of being an a hole. He sold more tickets being an a hole than being a skillful boxer.

Posted June 18, 2013 4:59 pm 


mayweather86

Lmao sredmond. Nicely done sir

Posted June 18, 2013 4:57 pm 


mayweather86

Lol. Hecdog- go back to church and preach to those mindless idiots.

Posted June 18, 2013 4:41 pm 


bronersboner.

people dont mention the people he helps.

Posted June 18, 2013 4:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Havoc, Floyd’s not the FIRST NOR THE LAST fighter to have insane confidence and wants to make money… He’s bot greedy he’s just not trying to die like Joe Louis, or Sugar Ray Robinson… Much loved but BROKE and demented… Who needs love from strangers? It’s NOT real anyway he’s an entertainer and as long as people enjoy his work who cares..

Posted June 18, 2013 4:27 pm 


Havoc

Hecdog- dang you good!!!

Posted June 18, 2013 4:23 pm 


Havoc

Floyd is very Famous not ATG. A lot of people think famous and great boxer is the same.

Posted June 18, 2013 4:15 pm 


Havoc

It’s hard to like a fighter who build his character to greed, hate, and just plain arrogance to be famous!

Posted June 18, 2013 4:13 pm 


SREDMOND

I doubt Floyd fights above 154 again the big names will be gone at he has about as much business at 160 as I do at HW… This mans no fool and knows his limitations as it pertains to weight Fight NIGHT BOTH Maidana and Josesito Lopez weighed more than Fliyd does cominh to the ring… He’s a WW that’s gonna put the spank on Alvarez then likely return to 147 where he belongs..

Posted June 18, 2013 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Reality is that some guys hate Floyd but still want to hold him responsible for carrying the sport… Many of these FILTHY 3rd rate writers on this site use this fighter as their bread and butter to generate convo and debate… Just as fighters who lack the charisma, otherworldly talent and skill to generate their own fan bases so they eagerly beg to be chosen for the prom… Mayweather runs boxing like no other fighter alive his popularly can be measured in COLD HARD CASH not the girly man feelings who lose sleep over a strangers life…
The mans a RAGING success and his success has resulted on MASSIVE Paydays for fighters who cannot make that money on their own… Mosley, Marquez, Canelo, Guerrero, Ortiz all had their biggest Paydays against FMJ (Canelos forthcoming) these Ratbag writers globalize their views with no supporting Data… If hes so detested then what are we to make of these other boxers who don’t enjoy a fraction of his success???? Are they more
Loved??? With their small homes and slim training budgets by comparison??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
L

Posted June 18, 2013 4:03 pm 


mayweather86

Floyd is clearly a much better fighter at 147, then at 154. All the more reason to believe he’s going to struggle against alvarez. So essentially u want him to travel even further up to where his skills will be almost obsolete. To put him at a complete disadvantage to which u would then claim he was overrated? Pretty much. Keep on hoping and wishing cause its not realist. What is realistic is Martinez fighting golovkin. Handle your own division before u go payday hunting.

Posted June 18, 2013 4:01 pm 


arra

We?
Who is the “we” referred to?
And when does an idea conjured up by an article speak for millions of boxing fans. Next article should be entitled, Why, I don’t love Mayweather … it would sit better with the mindful and make more sense.

Floyd is who he is, and like him, love him or hate him, he will remain. And the one thing he doesn’t need to do is write articles about others, for he is the one targeted by those craving for just a taste of what he has in abundance …. attention.

Posted June 18, 2013 3:49 pm 


Fabio Boys

PACMAN STILL EDGE FLOYD!

Posted June 18, 2013 3:49 pm 


Kid Blast

Tark has the beat

Posted June 18, 2013 3:18 pm 


mayweather86

Look at me I CAN USE CAPS LOCK. Your tough. And before you go talking your keyboard jockey gibberish. 213. High st senecaville, oh 43780. Come see me. We have a couple descent gyms in downtown Cambridge ill be glad to teach u some manners in. That is if u can get off your computer and out of your moms basement. Boy.

Posted June 18, 2013 3:05 pm 


bronersboner.

people dont praise floyd for all the good causes he supports.for some people they make it their mission in life to knock someone off a pedestal and floyd is on the highest pedestal amongst all sports.just because some people live their life a different way doesnt mean all overs are wrong.hes a boxer not a baby sitter or a cook.hes the best at what he does and avarez will go the same way after fighting a larder full of mexican tomato cans.

Posted June 18, 2013 2:55 pm 


mayweather86

Lol xcess. Valid point

Posted June 18, 2013 2:45 pm 


largo

“Floyd is the GOAT” not he’s not; He’d be seriously considered however if he beats Canelo, Matthysse, Broner & Pac in this his last run…& retires unbeaten.

Posted June 18, 2013 2:34 pm 


CALIBA

Stopped Reading at “ducked,weaved, pacquiao or something like that…Can’t stomach ignorant journalist. Pactard meter immediately went off.

Posted June 18, 2013 2:29 pm 


XCESS

For those who feel the itch to be philosophical and preach the gospel, I say, tolerance breeds tolerance just like an opinion is just an opinion, no need to have a cow or get bent out of shape over it. Those words you preached have no bearing on atheists.

Posted June 18, 2013 2:12 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Cuz u are a loser like thousands of millions in the world

Posted June 18, 2013 2:03 pm 


Tomato Can

Tark, I thinking the same thing to myself while reading this article. The author must have a mouse in hin pocket.

Posted June 18, 2013 1:54 pm 


malachi

WOW`Tark, well put my man,very well put…yezzzir!

Posted June 18, 2013 1:16 pm 


MadSquabbles

TARK said everything that needs to be said. Writer is probably not even a fan of boxing but a biased fan of Pac. So off-base. His “date” probably left him for some dude that looked like Floyd.

Posted June 18, 2013 1:00 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Floyd is the GOAT. Whether you love him or not makes no difference in that.

Posted June 18, 2013 1:00 pm 


MadSquabbles

Jahmal…U MAD BRO?

Posted June 18, 2013 12:55 pm 


mayweather86

Boxer-. Margarito. Give me a break. Destroyed by mosely. Martinez- middleweight. Floyd can’t even weigh in at 154 let alone make 160. Completely unfair to ask him to do. Futhermore Martinez has a big fight sitting there at 160 that he’s avoiding completely. TripleG ring any bells?. I don’t think the door is closed on Pac-may just yet. But as long as bob arum lives, forget about it. As far as his legacy is concerned I think most would agree he still has a little something to prove, but he’s taking the risks now. Make no mistake canelo is a huge challenge for Floyd, this will be his toughest test to date. He took the fight everybody said he was to afraid to make. Give the man a little credit already. As far as race goes does it really matter what color you are?. No just the person you are on the inside.

Posted June 18, 2013 12:43 pm 


The El Paso Fight Prophet

Can someone please show me a video of floyd stepping on the scale the day of the fight. Right, there is none and there wont be because floyd wants everyone to believe he is making a sacrifice to fight at that weight when in fact he is every bit as heavy as his opponents if not more, Just ask Marquez.

Posted June 18, 2013 12:19 pm 


Rich

Must have been a real dumb date…..Hope you wore something…….don’t want another dork running around…

Posted June 18, 2013 12:17 pm 


Boxer

I love Floyd he is one of the best, but their was to many fights that he could’ve fought to prove he’s te best and he didn’t!, at the time margarito,at the time Paul Williams, pacman,Martinez, that’s why he’s almost forced to fight Canelo I don’t think Canelo was his number 1 choice in reality, it’s unfair to a Andre ward, ad a handful of fighters who fought the absolute best at their prime so in my eyes he is one of the best but to be the best you have to beat the best!

Posted June 18, 2013 12:09 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tark is spot on, on my shorts that is…

Posted June 18, 2013 12:04 pm 


Ted Sares

TARK IS SPOT ON. Author needs to speak for himself.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:37 am 


TARK

Excuse me??? This is the most preposterous article I’ve ever read. Don’t say “we” when you mean “I”. Don’t push your hatred on me.

Floyd has more fans than anyone… Famous athletes, actors, business folks, writers, artists, entrepreneurs, magicians, musicians, personalities, and politicians attend Floyd’s fights. If they don’t attend them they watch them at home and invite their friends who are boxing fans. I’ve knocked Floyd’s boxing skills more than anyone, but I see him as a good man with a great heart, and probably the GOAT in his profession. He’s not “Money”, he’s not “Pretty Boy”, and he’s certainly not a crusty, racially bigoted, mentally fuzzy, emotionally addled frump like Larry Merchant.

Does Floyd have faults??? EVERYBODY has faults. Ali, Frazier, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Robinson, Marciano etc. had as many faults as Floyd, but not as many fans worldwide. Since only God is an accurate judge of our hearts, our thoughts, our motives, and our actions—it’s best for us to judge professional athletes on their professional abilities and not their individual shortcomings. The Lord said, “Judge not—lest you be judged.”

If you’re successful you’re going to have your detractors and haters. If you’re Buffett, Obama, Sheen, LeBron, Gates, Woods, Cosby, Clinton, Putin, Robbins, Beyonce, Clooney, Pitt, Jolie, or whoever. It comes with being famous. You deal with the haters. Ken Norton Jr. didn’t like a ton of idiots asking him when his next fight was—but knew they were the typically uninformed. Many people, like this pundit, are simply oblivious to what’s going on in the world outside their own lives. He said, “My dad didn’t know he was going to be famous when he named me. I’m glad he wasn’t super famous like Ali.”

Posted June 18, 2013 11:26 am 


Leif

There is no great rivalry (arguably because he is so gifted) and his next fight is a championship bout at a catch-weight – as have been many other bouts… regardless of his personality, these things alone detract from his reputation and popularity, and status in the history of the sport. The weights are our defining championship parameters.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:25 am 


Tomato Can

If you want to see someone punched in the face, and knocked out, nothing would make you more upset than watching that guy elude punch after punch in fight after fight. It would be easy to hate someone, at that point. And that’s without, all the antics.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:21 am 


sweet_scientist

Floyd DOESN’T want OUR RESPECT, he want’s OUR MONEY!! Floyd doesn’t CARE what we say about him, at the END of HIS CAREER he doen’t want to end up like our BELOVED boxing HEREOS: Sugar Ray Robinson – BROKE, with DIABETES and Dementia Pugilistia, Muhammad Ali – Parkisnon’s Disease, Joe Louis – BROKE & In DEBT millions of DOLLARS to the IRS, Dementia Pugilistia!!

Posted June 18, 2013 11:19 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

It’s mostly jealousy that drives the hatred, and the willingness to take big shots to make exciting fights. Hell Iron Mike was convicted of rape, but is widely loved. Floyd is a master at winning fights, making HUGE bucks and living the high life, yet still focuses on being in top condition and well trained for fights. For a kid from the streets, he is an expert on being a successful businessman.

Posted June 18, 2013 11:15 am 


Zuks

LennoxFan: Like wise! Cool

Posted June 18, 2013 10:59 am 


fast79z

he will be remembered for not fighting many and for being real good, a little of both

Posted June 18, 2013 10:58 am 


LennoxFan

Zuks, good talking to you man. Good to see a conversation with someone on here without a crappy argument. Wish more people could do that.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:35 am 


Grant Watson

Boxers dont become legends until years after they have retired. Ten years after mayweather retires he will still be talked about as one of the best that graced the square circle just like ali, ray leonard and all the other greats. Paquiao included. You dont have to be undefeated to be a legend. I hope mayweather chooses the best 5 fighters around his weight for his last fights and tests himself against the best out there. I believe the guy will retire undefeated and deserves credit off every boxing fan out there.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:28 am 


PeopleChampion

Thank you Big Mike…you summed up this article completely.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:17 am 


Zuks

LennoxFan: I fully agree, people like you are the reason why Floyd will continue to cash that money. Much respect to that but we also can’t take it away from him to do whatever he likes about it, there are some good causes he supports, which is cool. If it was not for his dedication and sacriface people would not spend their cash on him!

Posted June 18, 2013 10:10 am 


Prof Konje

It’s a very good, well-written article article. The writer is not a Floyd hater, rather he’s truthful in what he wrote. Floyd has changed or is trying to change his public personality. In his “younger” days he was much more abrasive than he is now. He’s earned his money and his titles but not necessarily the respect of the boxing public. He’s similar to Hopkins who is just now earning the boxing public’s respect. I had a feeling as I read this article that it would go over the heads of many who post on this site.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:10 am 


Zuks

Hype Train: I hear you, but you can’t tell people to “like his boxing skills” and not respect his personality. Other people may not be offended by his personality because when it’s all said and done, Mayweather is always respectful to his opponents after the fight, as for the domestic violence issue that is not cool yet that should not define him, there are many things that define a person. It would be wrong for people to judge Nelson Mandela badly because he is a convict, before you say anything about this, according to South African laws at the time he commit treason! In the boxing ring a fighter’s personality doesn’t win fights for him. I agree with you it could be not a race or colour issue specifically to you personally which I respect, however you also can’t take it away that many don’t like his personality because of his race. You and I are not looking at this from the racial point of view, we agree there!

Posted June 18, 2013 10:07 am 


Hidalgo

Floyd Mayweather will not retire or die broke. He’s a very smart man when it comes to making money. And when the day comes that he can’t make it from boxing anymore, he’ll find another way. But he’s NOT the “greatest boxer of our time.”

Posted June 18, 2013 10:04 am 


Hidalgo

“Floyd Mayweather is the greatest boxer of our time” No he isn’t.

Posted June 18, 2013 10:02 am 


AbyK

No room for haters. With the kind of money FM Jr gets, he shouldnt get broke like other boxers. All he needs to do is to invest outside America. Africa is the best desitination bcoz with a $mil; hotel, farm estate, ranch, private hospital, high school, shopping mall, agro processing factory, Transport Co, etc could be owned. Let him consult me.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:44 am 


Ray

Boxing barlow – you made very good points. Hit it right on the nail.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:43 am 


Hype Train

Zuks – I was just answering the question from Big Mike. My point is, does it really matter if someone is not liked by everyone. Respect Floyd boxing skills, don’t respect the personality. There are plenty of fighters I can respect their personalities but not their fighting skills. It isn’t a race/colour issue. When people bring that mentality into an argument it tells me more about them (only seeing colour) than a simple like/dislike opinion from others.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:38 am 


Zuks

Hype Train: People hated Floyd way before the conviction. Ali had a loud mouth too.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:29 am 


PEEJ

And who cares if people watch his fights just to watch him lose. They are still paying to watch. I remember a priest buying hundreds of Snoop Dog albums and burned them. They asked Snoop about it and what was his response? Thanks for buying my record, I just got paid for that

Posted June 18, 2013 9:20 am 


PEEJ

Actually Floyd is worth what he is paid. He is the PPV king. That is where all the money is made. There are plenty of fighters that are over paid. Floyd isn’t one of them.

Posted June 18, 2013 9:18 am 


Hype Train

Big Mike – “What has Floyd really done to be so hated.” He is a convicted woman beater. Thats 1 reason. That has nothing to do with colour, race, religion or wealth. Being a loud mouth braggard is another reason. Again doesn’t matter the colour, race, religion or wealth, generally people like a humble champion. No one can be liked by everyone, it has nothing to do with prejudice.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:51 am 


Anonymous

Why should “love” that guy ???

Posted June 18, 2013 8:47 am 


Havoc

Most of his fight is crap! Doesn’t worth was he’s getting paid for.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:40 am 


Havoc

His big PPV # comes mostly from people who wants to see him lose. People watch not for his skills but for that a hole to lose.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:38 am 


jz

don’t like his personality.

Posted June 18, 2013 8:31 am 


Ray

Yo momma..

Posted June 18, 2013 8:24 am 


Havoc

Fack that said respect the skills….you can’t respect an a hole with a skills…

Posted June 18, 2013 8:13 am 


Havoc

Floyd is an ass hole!!!!

Posted June 18, 2013 8:07 am 


Zuks

big mike: This article is also plain stupid as well. Word

Posted June 18, 2013 7:57 am 


Zuks

LennoxFan: If Floyd wants to show off his money; that should not bother you, after all he is the one working hard for it and doesn’t require any % of your hard work to earn it. If he is broke when he is 50 as you think, it’s his business not yours, he won’t come to your door and ask for a dollar. By the way, Floyd won’t be broke at that age!

Posted June 18, 2013 7:53 am 


Zuks

Lennoxfan: All those boxers that you respect also have faults and are not perfect!

Posted June 18, 2013 7:51 am 


LennoxFan

Floyd a genius? I’m not one of these idiots looking for an internet chat battle, just sharing my opinion. He is a rich guy made so by being an incredible boxer. However, he is also a punk. Woman beater is hard to look past. Tons of celebs have loads and loads of money but only the gangsta rappers (and Floyd) like to show it off like that. He will most likely be broke and sounding like his dad by the age of 50 if he doesn’t slow the spending. Guys like Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Morrison and more didn’t throw down cash like he does and all are broke. Wise up Floyd and learn from others failures…your career with multi million dollar paydays is going to be over before too much longer.

Posted June 18, 2013 7:48 am 


bronersboner.

the guy is a genius.dont love him.he aint a toy or love interest.just respect the skills.

Posted June 18, 2013 7:39 am 



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