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BLUESMAN

@ Hidalgo: “In my mind, why have the Olympics at all if pros are allowed to compete in it?” I agree! And I know you weren’t trying to be offensive, Hidalgo. It’s all good! I just wanted to make sure you didn’t think I was. And I really DO hope you have a nice weekend.

Posted June 21, 2013 11:21 pm 


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thing is, they need the attention, that a Klitschko brings to the olympic games.

Posted June 21, 2013 1:24 pm 


Hidalgo

“But I hope you have a nice weekend my friend and I wish you the best. :-)” I wasn’t trying to be offensive towards you at all, Bluesman. I just wanted to know why you felt that way. The way I see it as that pro athletes are pro athletes no matter what sport they compete in. The whole purpose of the U.S. pushing for pros to be allowed to compete in the Olympics is because we didn’t like losing. We are one of the wealthiest nations in the world with more access to more athletic resources than most any other country in the world. Poorer nations that compete int he Olympics have a hard enough time getting their athletes to the Olympics. But nowadays, when they do, they are facing professionals, in a variety of events, instead of amateurs like they have sent to compete. The door has been opened and the U.S., Russia, and many other richer and more powerful European countries will never accede to not allowing pros to compete in the Olympics. In my mind, why have the Olympics at all if pros are allowed to compete in it? That just makes the Olypmics a professional competition. What’s the point?

Posted June 21, 2013 11:05 am 


K-2 Fan

That was my comment .

Posted June 21, 2013 10:20 am 


Anonymous

This whole issue of pro versus amateur in the Olympics , in order to be debated properly , has first to be put into proper perspective . To begin with , what
has to be decided , is whether it is the BEST athletes from any country , or
strictly best AMATEURS , that should be allowed to compete . Ideally , the Olympic Games should observe the amateur status , but given the long standing experience of how hard it was to police the amateur status of the
athletes in the past and how many scandals that produced , I would be inclined to open the participation to ALL athletes , regardless of status . However then , there should be no exceptions ; ALL sports should allow
ALL athletes to compete . With each country , fielding all their BEST athletes ,
there would be no unanswered questions . Since the competition would be at the highest possible level , the spectators would be treated to the highest quality of performance and truly enjoy the WORLD’S BEST in each sport .

Posted June 21, 2013 10:18 am 


BLUESMAN

@ Hidalgo: Honestly, I just personally think that comparing basketball and boxing is ridiculous, no offense whatsoever intended. Two guys punching each other is very different from 12 people running up and down a court trying to catch a ball and throw it into a hoop, in my humble opinion. But hey, that’s me. But I hope you have a nice weekend my friend and I wish you the best. :-)

Posted June 21, 2013 4:27 am 


Anonymous

They will make it possible for Wlad, I’m sure.

Posted June 21, 2013 2:47 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

The sisters would be in the super-heavyweight division…

Posted June 20, 2013 11:58 pm 


UJelly

@Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing) – “That being said, I do NOT think that pro boxers from any country should be permitted to compete in the Olympics. Boxing is special and not like other sports for so many reasons.”

You hit the nail on the head there. Other Olympic sports in my mind have been tainted somewhat by inclusion of professionals (e.g. basketball, tennis, etc).

The Olympics is the main stage for upcoming boxing talent to be showcased and should stay that way. Of course there are also the World Amateur Championships, but nobody outside of boxing circles ever really pays attention to that.
Taking that stage away has lots of ramifications. You risk losing a lot of young guys before they ever make it anywhere (and America is already complaining about having no heavyweights because they go to other sports).
Most countries sponsor their Olympians… if the young fighters can’t compete, then they lose that income source and are forced to turn pro earlier… the problem there is that they’re completely unknown (unlike an Olympic medalist) so will have a lot harder time making an income.
Fighters from poorer countries in this case (like your Uzbeks and Kazakhs for example) probably couldn’t make a living at all (i.e. they’ve traditionally always been picked up by international promoters… but nobody is gonna pick them up without good credentials).
And that’s not to mention that turning pro earlier means you’re probably not going to have any more undefeated fighters (not that it bothers me, but a lot of boxing fans are hung up on the undefeated thing… an issue that isn’t present in kickboxing and MMA, etc)

I actually think Olympic rules should be stricter to encourage Cuba to allow pro fighters. I reckon guys should be limited to 2 Olympics after which they’re ineligible (and the Amateur world championships should do the same). It’s great that Chinese fighters are turning pro! Cuba should follow suit.

Guys like Wlad have all the money in the world (and he already has a medal). They need to stop being selfish and realise that they can’t have EVERYTHING.
Leave something for the young guys and help the survival of the sport (and the very tournament) that gave you your extremely comfortable living.
(end of rant)

Posted June 20, 2013 10:42 pm 


Hidalgo

Back up your comments with qualifying statements as regards to this article and other posters comments regarding pro athletes being allowed to compete in the Olympics.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:41 pm 


Hidalgo

“. Comparing boxing and basketball is like comparing a t-bone steak and salmon. It is also like comparing golf and swimming. ” Why? Please elucidate. Back up your comments with qualifying comments.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:40 pm 


Tomato Can

An accomplished professional fighter could ruin a young fighters career before he even got started. I’m not interested.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:38 pm 


Hidalgo

I mean, giants like Wlad and Vit already have a huge physical advantage in the heavywieght division. Granted, “heavyweight” boxers of gargantuan proportions have become much more common in the last 15 years, but really, it’s a ridiculously regulated weight division. For instance, 6’7″ Vitali weighed 248 pounds for his bout against 6’5″ 256 lbs. Lennox Lewis. Those are really big men, and they aren’t stepping into the ring carrying any blubber. Are the majority of amateur/Olympics-hopeful heavyweights anywhere near that size?

Posted June 20, 2013 10:37 pm 


BLUESMAN

You CAN’T validly compare boxing and basketball, enda f@ckin’ story. Comparing boxing and basketball is like comparing a t-bone steak and salmon. It is also like comparing golf and swimming. Also: Harry is wrong.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:33 pm 


Hidalgo

“Either ban ALL professional athletes , and
ENFORCE the rule , or let ALL athletes compete ,” I agree with you on this, K-2-Fan, but first and foremost I’d like to see all professionals banned from the Olympics. But, since the door has already been opened in several sports, I don’t see how they can say, without being unfair, that pro boxers can’t compete in the Olympics.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Personally I like the fact that the Olympics is for amateurs. I hope it stays that way. It’s always intriguing to see how young Olympic medalist will do in the Pros. I don’t care how the pros will in the Olympics.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:23 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Some of you guys don’t know that Wlad already won the Olympic Gold Medal (Super HW Division) in Atlanta back in 1996. This is deeply puzzling to me that WK is saying he wants to pursue the Olympics again. I recently read on another boxing website that WK said it was BOTH his and Steward’s dream for him to return to the Olympic stage at 40-years-old to win a second Gold, then permanently retire from boxing right after the playing of Ukraine’s national anthem.

In a way I can sort of understand WK’s thinking: that he wants to do it to honor the memory of his lost and mourned trainer; that it’s sort of a mid-life crisis “I’m still the best in the world” type of personal challenge; and ultimately to bring everything full-circle back to the very beginning — where it all started for him.

That being said, I do NOT think that pro boxers from any country should be permitted to compete in the Olympics. Boxing is special and not like other sports for so many reasons. The differences between pro and amateur boxing are so vast that I could go on forever talking about it. But but nobody wants to hear it…. so won’t bother.

IMO, WK needs to forget this one dream and focus on being satisfied with being Undisputed HW Champ of the World & owning ALL straps and titles, after his brother retires. He should also focus on making sure he retires with the most impressive record and stats possible, so that his place as one of the Top-3 ATG HWs cannot be questioned in the annals of history.

Posted June 20, 2013 9:04 pm 


Mongrel

I presume if he did go, he`d have to be selected by the Ukraine Amateur boxing association.

In which case I`d like to see the conversation Wlad has with the young Ukranian amateur whose place he is taking.

The poor kid will be thinking “you already have a gold, you have millions – you are rich, you are stuffing Hayden Panatierre, your family is building up political power, you are on the ATG heavyweight list, and now you want to take my one shot at the Olympics?”

Posted June 20, 2013 8:32 pm 


Maimutica

But yet it’s great when professionals can play the Olympics if it’s Basketball. We get all of our VERY best together and put them up against nobodies many times from countries you’ve never even heard of. Kurt Angle was the Olympic Wrestling Gold Medalist. Then he Wrestled professionally for many years. He was thinking of returning to the Olympics and nobody said anything about him being professional. Professional boxing and amature Boxing are different completely just like professional and amature Wrestling are different. With Basketball, it’s still the same sport. I bet Wlad would have a hard time because he can’t wear down guys with his jab and take them to the late rounds. He has only 8 minutes to hit more times than he gets hit. In a professional fight, who cares about the first 8 minutes (less than 3 rounds)? In the Olympics, it means EVERYTHING!!! I thought the Olympics brought the best from all around the world. But now a guy can’t compete because he is TOO good? Should Michael Phelps have been banned for being too good too? Somebody said, “leave it to the young guys” … OK, buddy. You go tell THAT to the Cuban Boxing team and well see how well that goes over, lmao!!!

Posted June 20, 2013 4:23 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

strongman, I agree, but it seems the almighty dollar drives everything…

Posted June 20, 2013 3:18 pm 


strongman

The whole goal of winning the golves the nationals is a shot at the olympics why take that goal away for what reason its ridiculas to even debate .

Posted June 20, 2013 2:52 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

K-2, The best boxer in history? LMFAO, he ain’t even the best Klitschko…

Posted June 20, 2013 2:08 pm 


K-2- Fan

” Cheap ” pot shot .

Posted June 20, 2013 11:17 am 


K-2- Fan

Hey Ernie !
Not only are you a # 1 Dufus for trying to take a chap pot shot at the best boxer in history , but you are either ignorant , or suffer from amnesia , since
Wlad Klitchko , ALREADY won the Gold , 17 years ago ! What a dope , you are !

Posted June 20, 2013 11:16 am 


K-2- Fan

What a ridiculous double standard and corrupt judgment on what ” professional ” athletes may compete in the Olympics ! If professional basketball players , professional tennis players , etc., CAN compete in the Olympics , than why not professional boxers ? Either ban ALL professional athletes , and
ENFORCE the rule , or let ALL athletes compete , REGARDLESS of their status !
The Olympic Committee , was ALWAYS corrupt and it remains as such today !

Posted June 20, 2013 11:09 am 


Hidalgo

I don’t think any professional players from any sport should be able to compete in the Olympics. America pushed hard for pro basketball players because our Olympic team–before the pros got in–were getting beat by the likes of Spain and other countries. Can’t have that, so we pushed hard for our pro players to be able to play. Klitschko wants a Gold medal. So what! You should have earned it when you were an amateur! That goes for snow boarders and snow skiers as well as any other pro athlete competing in the Olympics. JMHO.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:54 am 


Drago

Well, then you should’nt let any experienced pro aging 30+ play any olympic sport then. Don’t see why boxing should be different from everything else.

Posted June 20, 2013 10:13 am 


Enough Already !

Oddly enough nobody mentioned the fact Wladimir is looking for new challenges. The current HWs don’t do much for him. He needs to find some new blood, plus the youngsters will be hungrier !
Of course, there is a very serious risk of physical damage.

If there were valuable opponents, oppponents that make him get up at night and train harder, he would not have contemplated this option.

Just saying…

Posted June 20, 2013 9:43 am 


nameless

harry – change the meds

Posted June 20, 2013 9:22 am 


Irmina

Professional athletes should not be allowed to compete in the Olympics!!!!!!!!!!!
Since the fall of the USSR, the US has allowed professionals to compete.
Professional basketball players, hockey players, tennis players, etc.
It is plain wrong!!!!!
In the states, when I was growing up, we complained about the Soviets and the East Germans, and even the Cubans that they were professional athletes.
But as soon as those countries fell apart, we sent our pros.

Posted June 20, 2013 9:05 am 


Bolo

There is no other sport where amateur and professional are so clearly defined and regulated. Although that is a point for debate. So no I wouldn’t like to see pros at the Olympics unless they were fighting their own.

Posted June 20, 2013 8:47 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Ali and Tyson are probably the the two most OVERRATED HWs in boxing history.
Professional boxing analysts, quality sports writers and historians will tell you the exact same thing.

Posted June 20, 2013 8:14 am 


strongman

Wlad should be ashamed of himself that is just GREED he knows what a Gold Medal means to a young upcoming fighter with dreams this is nothing more than greed and ego.We could put a 42 year old TonyThompson and I have no doubt he could beat any amateur in a 3 round fight what will that prove.

Posted June 20, 2013 8:10 am 


Welterwily

Just shows you how bad the K sisters are. Its not enough beating 200lb bums they now want to beat up amateur kids at Olympics. Imagine Ali or Tyson in their prime even considering going to Olympics.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:37 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

Professional athletes shouldn’t be allowed to participate in the Olympics in any sport.

Posted June 20, 2013 7:25 am 


Stefano

Vladimir lost some esteem in my eyes. He has achieved so much and it’s still not enough for him? You cannot put a experienced boxer, the undisputed world champion nonetheless, with an amateur in the ring. He should leave the Olympics for what they are, the first big step for young talented boxers.

Posted June 20, 2013 6:35 am 


Roman

Olympics should be for the amateur code. New names trying to win gold. Wlad won it himself as a young boxer in 1996. He should leave it to the people trying to make a name for themselves now. Professionals have world titles to aim for.

Posted June 20, 2013 6:23 am 


harry

Give prime Vladimir some rounds and any version of Lewis is laying face down.

Posted June 20, 2013 5:34 am 


Mongrel

Look I love Wlad, he is a fantastic boxer, with amazing power, and he showed a lot of determination, and humility to reinvent himself and become as dominant as he has done.
But the Olympics is for amateur boxing – it`s the pinnacle of the Amateurs – the professionals have a World title – and they can fight for that at ANY TIME. The Olympics is once every four years, and a launching pad for younger talent to be showcase before they turn pro.

So I really don`t like Wlad deciding “ohh Rio olympics sounds glamoprous I want some of that”.

No. What if Lennox Lewis had decided to go into another Olympics when Wlad was trying to win gold the first time?
Peak Lennox vs the amateur Wlad would have been a horrific beating, even with headguards on. Look what Lewis did to Grant, Golota and Ruddock in two rounds. GIve him 3 vs amateur Wlad and there might never have been a professional Wlad.

Posted June 20, 2013 1:58 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

harry are you still mad because your mama named you after her clam?…

Posted June 20, 2013 1:11 am 


harry

participation of the pro boxers will add a lot more excitement and attention to Olympic boxing. that’s the main thing.

Posted June 20, 2013 12:47 am 


harry

amateurs use protective ammunition. that’s not THAT dangerous.

Posted June 20, 2013 12:43 am 


harry

Vladimir KlichKO IS A PRIDE OF AMATEUR BOXING, allow him to compete for the gold medal once again, 20 YEARS LATER! It’s unique! As unique as the champion himself.

Posted June 20, 2013 12:39 am 


BLUESMAN

No, professional boxers should NOT be allowed to compete in the Olympics. The skill level advantage that pro boxers have over amateur boxers is SCARY. What a stupid, ignorant question and 2. anyone that would even toy with the idea that pros should be allowed to box in the Olympics is a moron, enda story. There is a reason that many and most boxers start out in the amateurs. Hmmmmmmmm.

Posted June 20, 2013 12:36 am 


harry

as for the subject. I AM SURE THAT AIBA MUST MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR VLADIMIR KLICHKO AND ALLOW HIM TO PARTICIPATE IN OLYMPIC GAMES IN BRAZIL. VLADIMIR IS A LIVING LEGEND OF BOXING AND THE BEST SUPERHEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME AND HAS EARNED HIS PLACE AND RESPECT. MAKE IT HAPPEN AIBA! Don’t listen to these pathetic wbc and nabf corrupted organizations.

Posted June 19, 2013 11:56 pm 


knowall

Ernie your right

Posted June 19, 2013 10:45 pm 


KangriPR

I don’t see why boxers should not be allowed because it is “dangerous”… its the Olympics! Supposedly the very best athletes from the world compete for their Country in a tournament. It would probably be the most watched event in the Olympics. I am all for it!

Posted June 19, 2013 10:27 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

The risk to his opponents is too great, so it must not be allowed (this goes for all professional boxers).

Posted June 19, 2013 10:09 pm 


PEEJ

Sure as long as everybody is allowed to participate. If you have the skills then yes you should be able to participate.

Posted June 19, 2013 9:13 pm 


badger

Why not / Pro basketball players participate?

Posted June 19, 2013 9:06 pm 


The American Oak

The Cubans have done it for decades. Why not?

Posted June 19, 2013 8:28 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

There are professional athletes from many countries that have competed in other events for years. I wonder if the amateur ref’s would allow Klit to leave his arm extended for the entire bout, not to mention the holding and general snoozer activities the local ESB cumguzzlers love so much…

Posted June 19, 2013 7:57 pm 



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