“Because if you’re going to take on the best fighter every 6 months, ” Yeah, well, when Mayweather does that, let the world know.Posted June 28, 2013 8:00 pm
“and those clowns don’t deserve a shot at the world’s best P4P fighter anyway… ” Oh really? So the flake Victor Ortiz who’s easier to hit than the broad side of a barn, who quit against Maidana, who got hammered by Berto (even though Ortiz did pull out the win), who had only ONE welterweight fight before facing Floyd–the same guy who has since been pummeled and stopped by Josesito Lopez deserved a shot at Mayweather? Then there’s Robert Guerrero who had a whopping two fights as a welterweight, , who owned only a paltry “interim belt” and not a full world title, who beat Berto who Ortiz had already beat, who you yourself said, Tark, cheated his way to win over Berto–Guerrero deserved a shot at Mayweather? Both of these hype jobs “deserved” to fight Mayweather more than Malignaggi did?? Meanwhile, even before Guerrero fought his second welterweight bout, Malignaggi had already fought five times as a welterweight and had won and defended his full-fledged WBA World Welterweight title. And BTW, the public WOULD be interested in a Mayweather/Malignaggi fight. The public is interested in any Mayweather fight.Posted June 28, 2013 7:58 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Many think you’re funny, not the funny “ha ha” type either…Posted June 28, 2013 2:23 pm
Ernie Enema Schnozzle… Your life is in ruins. Nobody thinks you’re funny.Posted June 26, 2013 10:20 am
It’s Me, Ernie
It gives your ol lady a rash, so I don’t use it anymore. Just a couple of squirts of Fix-a-Flat in the morning coffee and it’s a go ahead…Posted June 25, 2013 4:15 pm
It wasn’t Tark. Alergic to Viagra ? No wonder you’re frustrated.Posted June 25, 2013 4:09 pm
It’s me, Ernie
I can’t live without Viagra.Posted June 25, 2013 2:23 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Good for you, the first step in growing as a person is realizing you have an issue, best wishes…Posted June 25, 2013 1:51 pm
I’m blind, stupid, ignorant … and I need to learn arithmetic and the 4 criteria for scoring pro fights.Posted June 25, 2013 1:42 pm
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
Okay, so let me get this straight. Gatti, Shamba Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz and Guerrero were the best fighters in the world and world’s better than Alexander and Malignaggi?
Wow… I didn’t realize this until today but I think you very well could be a paid PR writer for Mayweather Promotions and Adrien Broner. That’s damn good work if you can get it, so good for you! Just be honest here, TARK. Are you a paid promotional writer for boxing websites like ESB???Posted June 25, 2013 9:18 am
You’re blind, stupid, ignorant … and you need to learn arithmetic and the 4 criteria for scoring pro fights.Posted June 25, 2013 7:26 am
MALIGNAGGI WON 12 ROUNDS !!!! I JUST SAW THE FIGHT!!! BIG TIME ROBBERY !!!!!!!!Posted June 25, 2013 7:06 am
Good question Squared Circle…
The answer is…, Because if you’re going to take on the best fighter every 6 months, you don’t have time to take on the Paulie Malignaggi’s and Devon Alexander’s of the world — because the public isn’t interested … and those clowns don’t deserve a shot at the world’s best P4P fighter anyway… Let guys like Tim Bradley, Adrien Broner, or Kell Brook beat the crap out of them.Posted June 25, 2013 5:20 am
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
TARK: I agree with your last post for the most part. The only think I have to add to “most people know that Floyd is tops at 147″ is a question:
Why has FMJ not unified the WW division by taking all the titles and straps, after all these years? Anyone? Because that’s what the supreme GOAT would’ve done.Posted June 25, 2013 12:55 am
Sugar Ray Robinson had to have been overtrained for that Joey Maxim fight. He came into it weighing 157lbs to Maxim’s 173lbs and the heat had minimum effect on the larger man. Ray didn’t allow the larger man to put his weight on him and the fight was fought at a distance with Ray using his speed to beat Maxim to the punch.Posted June 24, 2013 11:48 pm
I don’t care how many world champions there are… Well before 1980 there were multiple world champions in each division.
And most people know that Floyd is tops at 147, Canelo at 154, Ward at 168, Mikey at 126 etc.., The K’s are dominant at heavyweight.. The only reason we don’t have a dominant Heavyweight Champion is the K’s are brothers.. Brothers have never fought each other in Boxing — to my knowledge.
The fighters are better today than ever — because for one thing there’s more boxers — and the science of Boxing improves a tad with each generation or 2, as well as athletes get stronger and better.
Within an 8 year span… Most Olympic or World records are broken… Some hang on for decades — but very few.Posted June 24, 2013 11:31 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Thank you pipsqueak. Lucas is one of the few current fighters Gonzo has deemed worthy of the title King Daddy.Posted June 24, 2013 10:25 pm
No it’s not… He threw a dozen “air” punches or so.. Then touched Broner with throws that hit gloves, shoulders, or connected like love taps.. They weren’t what you call scoring shots..
The man is pathetic.. His connect percentage was miserable on a guy who walked right into him all night long.
Broner, “I was telling him he couldn’t hit me. He couldn’t find me with anything.”Posted June 24, 2013 10:09 pm
“Paulie came out for the 1st round and threw about 30 straight punches without landing a single one..” That is totally false.Posted June 24, 2013 9:48 pm
Borner VS Mayweather. No other fights matter. The real deal vs a cheap carbon copy.Posted June 24, 2013 6:04 pm
SPARTACUS 65 I definitely see where you’re coming from and agree. It’s not like when Armstrong, Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Benitez… Chavez accomplished their feats. Heck, in 1951 welterweight Sugar Ray Robinson had to ‘jump’ from 147 to 160 (no 154lb division) and the following year, 1952, he made the jump into the 175Lb Lightheavywt class without the advantage of a 168lb division, thrashing champ Joey Maxim for 13 rds before passing out due to heat exhaustion, as we all know. This was in the EIGHT division/ ONE champ per days, unlike today’s “take your pick” FOUR champ / SEVENTEEN weight division era. There IS a difference, a BIG differece. Peace!Posted June 24, 2013 4:33 pm
EZ E. Spot on. This multiple division touting IS a bit overrated thanks to the multitude of weight ckasses out there now. Also depends on the quality of your opposition. Paulie as mich as i respect him as a man ,doesn’t raise the hair on my neck like ray leonard and crew would. Just saying.Posted June 24, 2013 3:19 pm
This “3 division champ” stuff is so overrated that many who emphesis on it sound like “experts” with no true arguement. Yes, I’m talking to YOU! If he did it in the pre-1980 years I’d be impressed. BUT in this 4 champs/zillion weight division era… ahhh… well, whatever turns you on. Now as for Broner, I’m not particularly fond of this punk but.. let’s be fair. NO, he anit no Floyd BUT even Floyd didn’t perfect his ‘shoulder roll” style til later in his career. It took a while before he PERFECTED it, among other things he develpoed. Check out his earlier fights and you’ll have to agree. I had a fighter, Hector Arroyo, who fought Floyd about 15 yrs ago. Yes, this kid does a rather ‘generic imitation’ but it’s probably the closest anyone’s gotten at the moment. Peace to all.Posted June 24, 2013 2:53 pm
Pacquiao is not going to fight Broner… He’s not stupid.
If Pac beats Rios he fights Floyd and retires… If he loses to Rios, especially if he loses badly again, he’ll quit and become a full time pol, like Eder Jofre … The only other guy he might possibly fight is a 5th with Marquez if JMM beats Bradley.Posted June 24, 2013 1:31 pm
Sum of the matter..Broner is a 3 Div CHAMP. Rios, Alexander, and Paulie can’t match it.Posted June 24, 2013 12:14 pm
Sum of the matter: Broner is exposed, much like Rios when he “beat” Abril or Alexander when he quit against Bradley. The kid is a top 10 welter but not much more, much like Paulie or Alexander. He’ll get eaten up if they put him in with sharks like Mathysse, Pacquaio, Floyd, Thurman, etc.Posted June 24, 2013 9:07 am
Chicago Guy is one of those crazy Pac fans who disappeared as soon as he kissed the canvass I suspect he goes by the name hecdog nowadays.Posted June 24, 2013 7:51 am
MaGents, Broner did not walk the talk. When you brash and talk like he did you raise the expectations. Yes he won but he fell far from what was expected of him. Best he move back to LW and start off with Burns, Gamboa, Alvarado& Rios ( if Arum is willing) before fighting Matthyse, Garcia, Maidana, JMM or Bradley. He has talent but is rushing things and speed kills. I can remember Fernando Vargas who I felt was rushed and his career suffered because of that.Posted June 24, 2013 4:53 am
Broners big mouth of the fans can choose his opponent. Has probably put Mathyssess in the driver seat for either belt. 147 or 140.Posted June 24, 2013 4:34 am
ADL – right on.! The hell wit Garcia vs Mattyseses. I want Broner vs Mathysesses since he want the fans to pick his oppenent. Matthysess has handled the speed of Judah and Alexander and sent them down and was robbed. This is the what the fans crying for. Lets see Broner back track.Posted June 24, 2013 4:29 am
@Mbuyi: Broner said “he doesn’t want to beat Mayweather”….What a joke mfethu. It’s cold today…Broner is over hyped!Posted June 24, 2013 3:56 am
Did anyone notice how Paulie would get hurt and act up like a mini Mayorga after being hit. This fight was never close I gave Paulie 4 rounds max, plus those rounds were given away by Broner. Mayweather vs Cotto comes to mind when comparing the scoring. Haters saw a close fight, really. Alvarez vs Trout was much close than this fight. People forget that Malignaggi is one crafty SOB, more skilled than Rios, Mathysse & Garcia. Plus everyone and their mom knew why this fight was made. Paulie can’t hurt a fly. All I’m saying is Broner will kill Rios but Mathysse will give him nightmares PERIOD. Is it me or Broner did not look cut as he usually does? No excuses Broner wanted this fight got it, now he has to live with it.Posted June 24, 2013 3:50 am
Broner will run back to lightweight and beat on smaller guys. Mark my words!Posted June 24, 2013 3:31 am
Mike Stafford, the trainer of Broner, is so full of this kid that he doesn’t see the obvious. I’ve seen Stafford in interview after interview, talking about Broner as a new only better version of Floyd Mayweather. “An icon of the sport”. It’s ridiculous. Stafford is a typical ignorant boxing trainer. He doesn’t see further than his own nose.
no doubt, lol, it was a SD.Posted June 24, 2013 3:20 am
AB won the fight. No doubt. He landed the harder, cleaner punches. Paulie won 4 rounds on my score card. ADL hit the nail on the head in a previous post. This was a showcase fight for Broner. He was supposed to dominate the weakest “champ” at 147. This fight was intended to build Broner to superstardom. Instead the kid was exposed and most probably is going the same place as Alexander and other hype jobs.
I finally got to watch the fight and I honestly don’t understand the controversy. Paulie did some very good work, but I had it a pretty clear Broner victory (and this coming from someone that was stating that Paulie would give Broner problems prior to the fight)
I figure that those scoring this for Paulie were the same that scored ODH over Mayweather and the like. I’d be interested to see how these guys scored Winky Wright fights back in the day.
Landing on shoulders, elbows, arms, (etc) should not count to your scorecard (even less so when those weren’t the intended targets for the punches).
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
PM clearly got robbed! Learn how to score a fight, boys.Posted June 24, 2013 2:44 am
Broner won the fight but lost the war. It doesn’t matter that Paulies punches had no power, what matters is that the openings were there. Every elite WW and JWW is salivating right now because they too will find the openings but this time the punches will have power. On top of that, Broner did not even have the power to hurt Paulie. Broners career as a emerging super star is over. He is the official gatekeeper at WW and JWW. He just does not know it yet.Posted June 24, 2013 2:21 am
“Broner clearly won the fight.”
Bullspit.Posted June 24, 2013 2:15 am
I though Broner was toying with Paulie in the first few rounds, but when Paulie made the distance I realised it is because Broner just could not put the pressure and punches together. He needs the other guy to hand him opportunities on a plate like DeMarco.
If you can`t walk through Paulie Malignaggi you are in a LOT of trouble.
Lets be honest even at JWW Paulie was rated behind Khan, Bradley, Alexander, Maidana, Ortiz, Judah, Hatton, Matthyse, and probably Kotelnik. He barely beat Ndou or Ngoudjo
There has never been a time when there aren`t at least 5 JWW’s around who would spank Paulie much worse than Broner and probably stop him.Posted June 24, 2013 2:04 am
Broner clearly won the fight. The fight went about how I thought it would. Broner prefers guys that come after him. I knew this would be a little tricker because he would have to chase Paulie. For 3/4 of the fight Paulie was basically trying to not get knocked out. The hometown audience was basically quiet during the fight, which kinda gives you the idea that they knew what was going on during the fight. And the oos and aahhs came when Broner hit Paulie with some impressive shots. It had gotten to the point where Broner was almost toying with him. He even landed a Superman punch! People who think Broner does not have power at this division are mistaken. Guys who fight Broner who are not on their bicycle will take a lot of clean shots and most likely won’t go the distance. He is definitely not unbeatable. He mixes it up with people, so he is a fan friendly fighter. Too bad he is not friendly on the outside of the ring.Posted June 24, 2013 1:40 am
Broner was a 15-1 favorite. This was supposed to be a dominant showcase for Broner. Future super stars do not struggle and edge out a victory over old B+ fighters with no power. Broner’s power did not move up with him to 147. He caught Paulie with many flush shots and couldn’t even hurt him much less knock him out. Broner is a limited flat-footed fighter with good power. People that think he is the next big thing are either making money off him or are novice fans that think just because he has a defensive stance and tries to talk like Floyd he is as good as Floyd. Broner does not have the skills to hang with the elite at WW or JWW. He will get embarrassed by the elite.Posted June 24, 2013 1:30 am
It says a lot when a slickster and accurate puncher with vast knowledge of the game can’t land clean on Broner, this Broner guy is teh real deal defensively for sure. Broner’s offense on the other hand is mostly successful because of his blinding hand speed more than ring intelligence. I mean, Ricky Hatton caught a younger and fresher Malignaggi with many more flush shots and seemed to have excellent timing in countering and even beating Paulie to the punch.
Broner has a pot shot a thon but definitely won the fight, I had it 7 – 5 for Broner.
Also I am glad that Paulie called out Tom Schrek’s scorecard, you can ask anyone that watched the fight with me, the second that score was announced I called out ” that was the money score, the one that was bought”it was all too obvious, we all knew going in that Paulie would never score a knockout and who is more marketable in the future? A pitty pat 32 year old Italian american or a 23 year old brash, trash talking, hard punching charismatic African American? Paulie could have been the only one landing punches in the bout and it still would have been a decision for Broner.Posted June 24, 2013 1:10 am
Calling broner a bum is way to far , he maybe rude or a mayweather wanna be . Let’s just keep da facts real , yes he got a long way to go , da truth is mayweather would ko paulie easily between 2 to 3rds , but paulie is not so classy either , he does not give hatton any credit for beating his ass . Paulie likes to have excuses for his ass whoppin , at least hatton got no excuses for his loses with pacman and money also broner got no excuse for not getting da ko . Sorry I tell it like it is .Posted June 23, 2013 11:20 pm
All that while his obese dad urges him on to act out more. When did all this become the like able traits? Who are we as a country when pride and idiocy prevails and is even encouraged?Posted June 23, 2013 11:02 pm
Broner is a trash talker and did little. Don’t talk trash and do little or nothing and be a creep when someone shows you respect. He’s a bum with no class.Posted June 23, 2013 10:54 pm
Ok, Paulie exposed Broner last night… LolPosted June 23, 2013 10:52 pm
Sweet_scientist, Broner earned his Hate Army. He’s prideful and did very little against Someone that he said couldn’t punch. But he was real proud of himself after the fight and talked trash after Paulie went to him immediately to give him congrats. He is a wanna-be who doesn’t have his own identity and gives off an “I try too hard to be cool” vibe. He should also learn how to chew gun with his mouth shut as well.Posted June 23, 2013 10:51 pm
Broner WILL EXPOSE Lucas Matthysse!!Posted June 23, 2013 10:47 pm
ALL the HATERS are condemning Broner but ARE giving Malignaggi a PASS?? I wonder WHY?? Who DID Malignaggi fight as CHAMPION?? Answer – Pablo Cesar Cano!! The Broner haters are listening to Paulie WHINING about Broner not fighting anybody. Every TOP fighter Paulie EVER fought he LOST to and he fought a lot of tomato cans too. Malignaggi DUCKED an OLD Shane Mosley to fight Broner instead!Posted June 23, 2013 10:44 pm
Broner knows damn good and well who not to go around and that’s Lucas Mathysse! I really couldn’t see Broner trying to get a fight with Mathysse. He will avoid Lucas like the plague. He knows he will be on the bad side a knockout of the year highlight if he gets bold and agrees to fight LM!Posted June 23, 2013 10:44 pm
Broner won that fight , yes broner was not aggressive enough but he had landed the cleaner shots . the reason paulie did not get knocked out because broner was not aggressive enough and paulie is a lot bigger man plus broner power decrease a little bit a that weight , but paulie fought to survive . Paulie was fighting in a panic mode , who nows what could happen if he did not fight like that . I give credit for paulie hitting broner with quick body shots but he did not hit harder enough to the body to have broner backing up , if other fighters hit the body of broner with little bit more force you might see broner backing up every rd .Posted June 23, 2013 10:37 pm
The Broner ‘Hate Army’ is GROWING!! All the Broner naysayers are saying that Broner can’t punch as a welterweight WHILE PRAISING Malignaggi’s PERFORMANCE against Broner. Yet Malignaggi as a TRUE welterweight as opposed to Broner WAS unable to KO the lightweight CHAMPION.Posted June 23, 2013 10:36 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
No, Broner will NEVER STEP INTO THE RING WITH FLOYD, PERIOD. It ain’t gonna happen. He is scared of Floyd as Dirrell is of Ward…Posted June 23, 2013 10:24 pm
Maidana will moider Broner.Posted June 23, 2013 10:01 pm
Lucas m will destroy abPosted June 23, 2013 9:46 pm
Broner was exposed and getting caught every round meaningless or not hit and not get hit remember. This win just wasn’t convincing there should be a rematch immediately imoPosted June 23, 2013 9:14 pm
Trash Broner hahahaPosted June 23, 2013 9:11 pm
No… Broner said he’s going to let the fans choose he next opponent… If they choose Floyd he’ll fight him — he says. Floyd is hooked up with Canelo, so I don’t think that’s AB’s next one.
Personally I want Broner to fight Matthysse, but I think he’s being matched with Garcia… AB may be left with Maidana.Posted June 23, 2013 8:58 pm
The fans want Broner to fight Mayweather, but he will never fight him cause Broner would be badly exposed, he is ducking Mayweather much like Hopkins is ducking Ward.
Broner and his handlers are conmen, why keep him away from the best competition?Posted June 23, 2013 8:31 pm
broner should try to endure himself to the public. at the rate he is going he will be the most hated fighter out there.Posted June 23, 2013 8:28 pm
Paulie came out for the 1st round and threw about 30 straight punches without landing a single one.. The guy has no zip or deception on his jabs.. No effective feints.. nothing.. You saw their faces after the fight.. Broner was unmarked.. Paulie was beaten up.Posted June 23, 2013 8:24 pm
Just watched the fight and no way Paulie won that. I like Paulie but he was throwing nothing with meaning. Broner won this. I want to see him fight someone with a little more power. But I like him definitely. Think he can do some big thingsPosted June 23, 2013 8:20 pm
Hidalgo…. “The punch stats showed Paulie connected significantly more than Broner did”
WRONG…. The punch stats showed Broner connected more… His punches were much harder and cleaner as well. Paulie didn’t do a damned thing because the wimp can’t fight.. In addition AB was the aggressor and let Paulie tee off to no effect..
What happened to Paulie’s promise, “You’re going to have Summer teeth Adrien… Summer your teeth are going to be over here.. Summer your teeth are going to be over there…”
Paulie couldn’t even knock a tooth pick out of Broner’s teeth he’s so damned weak.Posted June 23, 2013 8:18 pm
Sure Malignaggi hit Broner a lot with those meaningless, ineffective love taps. Please explain to me what effect they had on Broner since he kept talking to Malignaggi and smiling at him. Broner had no marks anywhere in sight, but Malignaggi sure was bruised up around both eyes. I gave Malignaggi the benefit of the doubt, but he did not fight an effective fight in any way. Seriously, I know many of you are pro Malignaggi, but he didn’t come close to winning this fight. Please take another look and tell me how much damage Malignaggi inflicted on Broner to make this fight look like it was remotely close. Professional scoring in boxing doesn’t give you any points for little mosquito taps. They sure were stopping Broner right? No, they were annoying as if fighting a 5 year old, Malignaggi’s head was on a swivel. Okay, at best, and I mean at very best I might see a 10-2 round difference for Broner. No way Malignaggi won 3 rounds. Not by Professional boxing rules, maybe amateur rules.Posted June 23, 2013 8:13 pm
nice article gonzoPosted June 23, 2013 8:06 pm
“you must agree that Mayweather beat ODH.” Yes. I’ve always said as much. In any case, that wasn’t much of a fight. Not for the kind of money that DLH and Mayweather made.Posted June 23, 2013 8:02 pm
“Broner was clean and fresh as a daisy…” Really? Why did Broner wear dark sunglasses at the post-fight presser just like Paulie did? My money says Broner’s gonna have some very sore sides for the next week or so as well. If Broner was so fresh why did he throw so many less punches than Paulie? I tell you why: Because Paulie negated much of Broner’s attack. Sorry Tark and all you other guys, but I ain’t budging on this. Broner put on a fair performance at best. He followed Paulie around the ring all night. Paulie DID fight, he DIDN’T run, and he WAS effective because he took Broner out of his game for most of the fight. Just because you don’t want to admit it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I’m with Paulie. I know a travesty when I see one. And done forget, I’m also one of the guys who picked Broner to win this fight. the only reason Broner did win was because he had a lot of out-of-the ring help. I mean look at that fool Judah who after round two was saying Paulie was only throwing one punch at a time and needed to throw combinations. Really? REALLY?? That’s what Paulie had to fight last night–not just Adrien Broner.Posted June 23, 2013 8:01 pm
@Hidalgo~ Then according to your logic on the Malinaggi fight , you must agree that Mayweather beat ODH. I don’t think PM beat Broner but, I do think Mayweather beat ODH, Ya Dig! This type of fight is very difficult to judge. On one hand you have a guy who is landing more consistently than his opponent but, the shots have very little impact. On the other hand you have a guy that is landing the harder shots causing visual damage. Who gets the nod?Posted June 23, 2013 8:00 pm
“BTW… Floyd was very happy with Broner’s effort… He called Broner “The Future of Boxing.” B-F-D. If Broner’s the future of boxing, I have a bag of used rubbers to sell you. Not to mention how bad the “future” is looking at this point in time.Posted June 23, 2013 7:55 pm
This means that Oscar de la HO will TAINT Showtime with Broner Like he did HBO with Floyd……..GARBAGE.Posted June 23, 2013 7:51 pm
BTW… Floyd was very happy with Broner’s effort… He called Broner “The Future of Boxing.”
Floyd doesn’t mince words.Posted June 23, 2013 7:49 pm
Hidalgo and Jersey Pete… Paulie was beaten up… Broner was clean and fresh as a daisy… Broner landed more punches, that landed harder, and at a higher % rate… He was the effective aggressor… The ring general… The defender… and the scorer…
That’s all the scoring criteria right there.
Paulie threw a lot, missed a lot, and got punched a lot..Posted June 23, 2013 7:47 pm
I see Mayweather dumping Broner from his camp and inner circle after this poor embarrasing attempt to be Mayweather light… Leaving Broner no option but to have to go latch onto Filthy Scents aka 50deeeCents Scrotum for a Promoter Manager…Posted June 23, 2013 7:46 pm
“I’m giving an unbiased opinion…” No you’re not, Hecdog. Sorry but you are not. You have professed how much you despise and dislike Paulie ever since you started talking about him. A blind person could see that Paulie clearly won the first four rounds. Broner got in a few shots in round #4 but 1-3 totally belonged to Paulie. And even if I was nice about it and gave Broner the 4th, there’s no way in hell Paulie lost any of the first three. A “true” boxing fan would have seen that. So there’s absolutely no way Paulie lost every round but one. There’s even lesser chance that Paulie was shut out by Broner. Broner claims Paulie couldn’t hit him or hurt him yet Paulie made Broner look so ineffective most anyone with any real boxing knowledge is questioning Broner’s abilityt to face the top guys not only at 140 lbs. but also at 147. Broner put on a stinky performance. Paulie beat him too.Posted June 23, 2013 7:45 pm
missed this circle jerk. paulie is like saul mamby without the punch.Posted June 23, 2013 7:44 pm
The fight was a drag because Paulie 1. wouldn’t fight… 2. ran, grabbed, pushed, and threw meaningless pitty pats… 3. was only in there to survive… Excessive holding is a foul, but the referee could have cared less.
Broner never turned up the heat… He was too intent on yakking his ass off to concentrate on putting Paulie out… However, he did more damage in each round, even the 3 rounds he lost on my card… If you wanted to give him 2 other rounds because he was throwing up to 30 punches in a row without landing one that had any effect??? Fine.
I knew the fight would be a joke from the 1st bell — when Paulie opened with 10 to 15 straight jabs that didn’t even make contact with a glove.Posted June 23, 2013 7:39 pm
“AB lost that fight, period. ” He did, Jersey Pete. But the forces that be wanted Broner to win that fight so he did.Posted June 23, 2013 7:38 pm
“Hecdog I agree except I SAW a 12 Round SHUTOUT ” You’re an idiot too. Not one judge or boxing analyst/commentator or anyone of note scored that fight a shutout for Broner. Broner lost the first four rounds. There was no way in hell that he shut out Paulie Malignaggi.Posted June 23, 2013 7:38 pm
Broner along with his idol Floyd are the BIGGEST JOKE in boxing History.Posted June 23, 2013 7:37 pm
And Paulie easily won that fight Broner was not active enough to win that ….Posted June 23, 2013 7:34 pm
tachyon has the beat …..Posted June 23, 2013 7:33 pm
On other news we’ll probably have to see Mitchell get a title shot against a Klit–not because he’s ready for it, but because anytime a Klit gets beat the opponent ends up fighting another one of the brothers, in this case Yochanan Banks.Posted June 23, 2013 6:58 pm
Broner lost. Stay below 140 or you’ll knocked out Broner mark my words. You get hit way too much and opponents are supposed to be a little slower the further you go up in weightPosted June 23, 2013 6:44 pm
Hecdog as usual showing his boxing IQ or lack there of. Paulie won the fight, at the very least it was a draw. I like how you say unbiased opinion when all you do is come on here and hate on Paulie. 11-1 to Broner clearly you have solidified yourself as the resident ESB idiot with that score. You want to say broner won fine but by a round understandible 11-1 you have lost whatever credibility you had left.Posted June 23, 2013 6:30 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
How can you not love this mysterious and enigmatic Gaucho from the heart of the Pampas folks? He’s everything that grotesque carnival freak Broner could never be in his wildest dreams.
Praise be to the King. Long live the king!!! King Daddy Matthysse!!!!Posted June 23, 2013 6:24 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
JUNIN, Argentina — It’s noontime on a Sunday as the Argentine city of Junin gets ready for a traditional siesta under a blazing midday sun. Located several hours’ drive away from the city of Buenos Aires, it looks deserted and still.
One-story houses. An occasional stray dog. Complete silence.
Located a few miles from the center of town is Gomez Lagoon, where sitting among the trees and birds with only his thoughts is Lucas Martin Matthysse, interim junior welterweight titlist and, to many, one of the most exciting fighters in the world today.
Matthysse, 30, was born in Trelew, in the southern province of Chubut. His father, Mario Edgardo, was a profesional fighter who had 51 bouts, including one aganist former middleweight champion Jorge Castro. Lucas’ mother, Doris, had a few amateur fights herself. And then there are his brothers and sisters: Walter (26-5-0, 1 ND, 25 KOs) fought Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron in the U.S., and Edith Soledad (9-4-1, 1 KO) recently fought in Mexico against Yazmin Rivas for a women’s bantamweight title, losing on points. Additionally, Edith Soledad’s husband, Mario Narvaez, is a veteran of 36 pro fights who happens to be the brother of junior bantamweight titlist Omar Narvaez.
The lineage, it seems, will continue: Walter’s 14-year-old son, Ezequiel, has already made his debut as an amateur. This excites Lucas, who compares his nephew’s story to his own.
“I left Trelew when my parents divorced. I started fighting at the age of 11, and my first coach was Huinca Mendez,” Matthysse said. “When I left Trelew, I had already fought as an amateur when I was 14, just like my nephew. Maybe because of that I have a special affection toward him, because his story is similar to mine. I went to live in Esperanza, Santa Fe, where my dad was born. And I traveled around to other small towns, like Rafaela and Vera — a small town where I met another guy who dreamed about becoming a boxer, like me.
“His name was Marcos, but we called him ‘Chino.’ Yes, it was Chino Maidana.”
Although soft-spoken, Matthysse (32-2) likes to tell stories and doesn’t mind opening up about himself.
“I’ve always been a loner, and I didn’t talk much,” Matthysse said. “Now I am living here, in the Posada del Sol, which is like a log cabin. I divorced a while ago. I love being alone. I always have dogs around, I like to hunt, fish and, obviously, to train. Because to me this is not a sacrifice, it’s a pleasure.”
Matthysse has lived in Junin, the birthplace of legendary heavyweight contender Luis Angel Firpo, for the past eight years, since the birth of his only daughter, Priscilla Yaneisi. (“I don’t even know how to spell her second name,” he joked. “I heard it once in Cuba and I liked it.”)
Junin is a boxing stronghold in Argentina. Matthysse trains at the Arano Box Gym, located in midtown and open exclusively for him with two rings, six heavy bags, lots of mirrors and lodging space for 12 people. That’s where the fighters live, along with their sparring partners and the rest of the team: Promoter Mario Arano, Barrera, coach (and cook) Dario Fernandez, physical trainer Gerardo Pereyra, longtime doctor Edgardo Leguizamoon and Smurf Arano, Mario’s brother and jack-of-all-trades in camp.
Matthysse has fought five current or former champions, knocking down all of them (including DeMarcus “Chop Chop” Corley’s nine trips to the canvas in 2011). And according to some, including promoter Arano, Matthysse could very well be undefeated at this point: “He never really lost in the ring, because against [Zab] Judah and [Devon] Alexander, he was robbed,” Arano said.
Those sketchy split-decision losses are already on the books, but Matthysse can continue to build on his spectacular recent run on Saturday when he defends against Mike Dallas Jr. (19-2-1, 8 KOs) in Las Vegas. Dallas, a former prospect, lost in each of his first two step-up bouts (against Josesito Lopez and Mauricio Herrera), although he rebounded to win both of his fights last year.
Yes, at first sight [Dallas] is not much of an opponent, but we’re not taking anyone lightly and we’re training, as always, all the way to be in our best possible shape and avoid surprises,” said Matthysse’s trainer, Luis Dionisio “Cuty” Barrera. “We’re not studying videos or anything, because we — especially me, as a trainer — value more the certainty that Lucas is well trained and at his best possible level. If you look at it this way, then they are the ones who should be worried.”
Although Matthysse says he isn’t looking past Dallas, he makes no secret of his intentions for 2013: to take down the biggest names at 140 pounds.
“I want to fight Danny Garcia, that’s the story,” Matthysse said of the unified junior welterweight titleholder. “I feel that’s the fight I need to demonstrate that I’m the true and only champ in the division. I don’t like to throw names around. All I want is to be recognized as the only champion.”
Matthysse had a fight scheduled against Erik Morales in September 2011, but he decided to withdraw, which might have affected his standing with the Golden Boy suits. Matthysse might have been further diminished in the eyes of some when Garcia went on to fight Morales twice in 2012, outpointing him in March to win a vacant belt and destroying him in a brutal fourth-round knockout in October.
“It was a complicated moment for me,” Matthysse said. “I was getting divorced, my friend Carlitos Ponce had just lost his mom and I had a strong case of bronchitis. I don’t believe my defenses were down or something like that, but I got sick. If it had been for the money, maybe I would have fought anyway, but I don’t fight just for the money. I fight to be the best. So instead of risking a loss, I decided to step aside.”
But as much as the boxing public might have longed to see Matthysse take on Morales, the Mexican legend, a couple of years ago, the demand may be even higher right now for him to face fellow action star and countryman Maidana. It’s a tough sell for the fighters and friends.
“I’ve known him since we were kids, when we were traveling from one town to the other in the back of a truck to fight as amateurs,” Matthysse said of Maidana. “And we fought several times in those days. But today that’s a fight created by the journalists, more than anything. He is at around 147 pounds, and I don’t think he’ll like the idea of dropping so much weight. And I am the 140-pound champ; I am not in the mood to go that high up.”
Matthysse is reminded that it’s his own promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, who, more than any other, has insisted on the idea of a Maidana matchup. “Well, I don’t know,” he said. “If we have to fight, I am sure we will, because we’re professionals. But right now, I believe it doesn’t make that much sense.”
Matthysse admits he has few issues making weight, and to demonstrate, he eats from a huge pot bubbling with chicken, potatoes, carrots, peppers, rice, corn on the cob and, laughs Fernandez, who cooked up the stew, “a secret ingredient from the chef.”
“A few days ago, a huge iguana popped up around here, and we barbecued it,” Matthysse said. “It was tasty.”
According to Barrera, Matthysse “sleeps all the time.” There’s an explanation for that: “Lucas sleeps all he can because he works too much. He gets up at 5 a.m. and runs about 14, 15 kilometers [about nine miles]. He gets some rest and then goes to the gym for strength and conditioning training. He has lunch, takes a nap and then, at around 4 p.m., goes to the gym once again to work on his boxing. And he works out at least 15 rounds every day, sparring every other day. That takes its toll. He is lucky to be eating well, because he has no weight issues, but right after dinner, at around 9 p.m., he goes right back to sleep.”
In the meantime, all of the focus is directed to Matthysse’s next fight. He continues working hard in camp while carving out time for long walks with his dog, Pirate, before taking the rest of the stray dogs along for the ride.
“I have been in camp during the past four Christmases,” Matthysse said. “I’m used to it. Now we have to do it again for Mike Dallas, someone I don’t know too well, but just as Cuty says, the joke is on the other guy.”
“When we had the fight with [Ajose] Olusegun [a 10th-round TKO victory in September 2012], I told Lucas that winning was our only choice, even though we could lose some of the good things we were working on,” Barrera said. “We couldn’t allow ourselves to be robbed like we did against Alexander or Judah. That’s why maybe he didn’t look so great from a technical standpoint, but he demonstrated he can punch and everything else he has going for him. Now that he is a champ, I am sure he will be even more confident.
“This will be the Year of Lucas.”
Matthysse agrees: “All I know is that I feel better than ever and that in this year I will demonstrate that. I hope Danny Garcia takes the fight because it will be the best way to demonstrate what I’m capable of.”Posted June 23, 2013 6:21 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Praise be to Luscious Lucas Matthysse aka the God of the Pampas aka King Daddy Matthysse
Viva Argentina!!!!!!!Posted June 23, 2013 6:19 pm
Broner is a great fighter and he will get better. The hype that he’s creating is getting to all the haters because he talks too much, and his ego is a bit too much. Regardless if you think he won or lost, the decision is in, Broner beat Malignaggi last night. It’s over. Don’t over look the fact that broner is only 23, not near his prime and will look 100 times better when he fights guys like Bradley, Garcia, Marquez or any other quality fighter from 140-154. He’s that good, and IMO is going to be better than Mayweather if he’s not already. Styles make fights, and Malignaggi wanted no part of trading with Broner once he felt a few punches. The objective is to beat the opponents style and win the fight, which is exactly what Broner did. You keep watching this kid, and watch how much more he improves and develops. For many of you that don’t understand the scoring system in Professional boxing, please look up the rules and you’ll see why Broner beat Malignaggi decisively without a doubt. Broner will be an ATG.Posted June 23, 2013 6:13 pm
Mathysee first choice, Maidana second choice. Your pick broner.Posted June 23, 2013 6:10 pm
Well I thought Boner would win this big time…I was wrong.Boner might have won but this was no great win thats for sure.This is the era of big hype yet few live up to it…the era of mass media.Posted June 23, 2013 6:09 pm
Burns would smash Broner up.Posted June 23, 2013 5:30 pm
Broner should get Roger Mayweather to train him. Mathew Stafford only has one strategy, underneath, underneath. Roger is good at training that shoulder roll, very strategic and currently underemployed. I think he could make drastic improvements in AN.Posted June 23, 2013 5:27 pm
Broner needs to fight bums like Burns in the future unless he wants to get knocked out and become irrelevant, which means no money.Posted June 23, 2013 4:57 pm
People talkin bout Broner at 140? Still don’t see him getting past Ricky Burns, who was rusty against Gonzalez, but after watching how Paulie OWNED Broner in the first 5 rounds, I think Broner is tailor made for Ricky who is one of the fittest boxers in the game. Ricky will open an early lead and keep it, and if it gets into the trenches, I think he’d come out on top there too. C’mon Hearn get it on!Posted June 23, 2013 4:42 pm
Hypothetical question Broner vs prime Jose Luis Castillo who would win?Posted June 23, 2013 4:42 pm
Broner’s ‘sticke’ is to make money, plain and simple!Posted June 23, 2013 4:27 pm
If i were old Shane Mosley, I would try to make the fight with Broner right nowPosted June 23, 2013 4:23 pm
IN MY OPINION, IT WAS’NT EVEN CLOSE, I DONT SEE HOW ANYONE CAN SAY THAT IT WAS CLOSE, I THOUGH PAULIE BOXED BEAUTIFULLY, BUT IT CERTAINLY SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING TILTED IN BRONERS FAVOR. LASTLY, BRONER IS A COMPLETE JERK, WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO ACT THAT ONE, VERY DISRESPECTFUL AND DEFINETLY NOT A ROLE MODEL OF ANYSORT FOR ANYBODY. JUST A YOUNG PUNK KID.Posted June 23, 2013 4:21 pm
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
The Fight was extremely close and could’ve gone either way. It should have been scored 115-113 or 114-114. These guys saying that Broner won 117-111 were seeing exactly what they wanted to see — a Floyd clone hype-job.
I had it 115-113 for PM and I’ve never l liked that fool.Posted June 23, 2013 4:17 pm
Broner will HAVE MORE people who want to SEE him lose than Mayweather!! It’s the HATERS that will make him $1B!! The audience WAS cheering FOR Mayweather LAST NIGHT. How ODD?Posted June 23, 2013 4:13 pm
Lol he ain’t getting my paperview money trust mePosted June 23, 2013 4:11 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Billion? He would have to keep winning, and we know that ain’t gonna happen…Posted June 23, 2013 3:57 pm
This Broner KID, will make a BILLION $$ in the RING because he’s getting a lot of HATERS, hating on him!! Why DIDN’T Malignaggi DEMAND a rematch? Cause Broner was TAGGING him and he doesn’t want to go thru that again!!Posted June 23, 2013 3:54 pm
7-5 or 8-4 are good scores, but a split decision it wasn’t, Broner WON UNANIMOUSLY! Paulie threw a lot of punches but landed LESS than Broner. Paulie was competitive though, instead of insinuating a ‘FIX’, he should’ve been calling for a BIG money REMATCH!!Posted June 23, 2013 3:51 pm
I had it 116-113 (7-4-1) people coming out with 10,11 rounds to broner saw what they wanted to see because we are told broner is the next big thing. Malignaggi clearly won 3 out of the first 4 rounds. im not convinced by broner at the moment especially if he stays at 147Posted June 23, 2013 3:49 pm
Boxtradamus when it comes to scoring its where the punch lands and how many times. 2 power shots that land but have no affect do not outscore 11 shots that were lighter. Broner needed a KO to win he was outscored by a mile. Paulie was robbed in order to setup Pac vs Broner.Posted June 23, 2013 3:41 pm
hecdog, calm down. 11-1 is wrong. The fuzz is about this guy Broner, self-proclaimed p4p king, barely got past feather fisted Paulie. The kid(Broner) did not carry his punch to 147. Fact. His footwork was embarrassing when compared to fighters like Floyd, Pacquiao and Rigondeax.
Hecdog I agree except I SAW a 12 Round SHUTOUT but knew It would be a split because of some HOMETOWN COOKING for Paulie but At the end of day SKILLS and POWER are better than MISSED flurries and pitty pat SLAPS. I remain the GREATEST fight prophet ever born!!!Posted June 23, 2013 3:06 pm
Why all the fuss? Adrien Broner won that fight clearly. I’m giving an unbiased opinion as a true boxing fan. I had the fight scored 11 rounds to 1 after watching the fight twice without any volume. True boxing fans that understand how scoring goes in the professional ranks. Malignaggi’s punching volume was a complete waste. Those love taps were embarrassing to see. They were not effective scoring blows. That type of punching belongs in the amateur silver gloves tournaments. Adrien’s punches were clean, effective and accurate. They slammed back Malignaggi’s head with force and everyone in the audience as well as the tv viewers could see it clearly. Forget the volume punching if they are not being effective in any way shape or form. Those pitty pat punches couldn’t hurt a fly. And the commentators were worse obviously because Malignaggi is one of their team members. Broner came to his home town, fighting one of Showtimes employees all while fighting in front of the pro Malignaggi crowd, and he destroyed him. The one judge that scored it should be fired, banned for life and never allowed near a boxing match. A true blind and biased judge. Adrien Broner is a world class boxer that won’t be beaten by anyone for a long time. And I say this not being a fan of his, but a fan of his talent. I’ve been high on Broner ever since he came on the scene. Adrien Broner will beat anyone in the 140-154 pound range. This includes Bradley, Marquez, Garcia, Mathyysse, Martinez, Alexander, Canelo, and Mayweather. Broner is for real, and he is only going to get better love him or hate him. Manny Pacquiao is the only one at this time that has the style and ability to beat him, but he better fight him right after beating Rios. Broner is an ATG.Posted June 23, 2013 2:38 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
You talkin’ ta me? fuggetaboutit. Gonna go see my woman, Moitle, she lives on toidy tird street and tird avnue…Posted June 23, 2013 2:27 pm
If broner fights one of the top fighters at 140 or 147, he will get hurt and beat up. He barely beat paulie, he’s not gonna beat the top dogs. Where does he go from here? Does he keep fighting soft touches? If he fights a top guy, he’s gonna get hurt. He’s no PBF any means. He’s kinda in a bad spot becz he’ll be a big target for the best fighters. Easy work, easy pay for them.Posted June 23, 2013 2:15 pm
Whadaya mean Ahh shaddup? You talkin’ ta me?Posted June 23, 2013 2:09 pm
This was a setup no way Broner should have won and correct he should have had some points deducted. Broner is being setup for a Pac fight I can see the plan. If Pac gets past his next fight they are looking at a PPV Pac vs Broner and Pack possible gets a title back by beating Broner which I think Pac would win by KO. Pac Floyd want happen Pac Broner coming to PPV near you. Paulie could have connected 200 punches per round and they still would have given the fight to Broner on the score cards.Posted June 23, 2013 2:07 pm
Broner is truly a disgusting human being. The fight was close, i had Malignaggi wining the fight by 1 round.
If Broner fights Ricky Burns he will get owned by Burns.Posted June 23, 2013 2:03 pm
Plus Benitez beat a future hOF at age 17 in Antonio Cervantes..Correctamundo,congratulations on ur pic n hope u had a good victory party,lol…I had it a draw but no complaints in a close fight…Broner shoulf fight Madaina next…if Benitez did what he did at 17,Broner”s peeps shouldnt have a problem with that match-upPosted June 23, 2013 1:58 pm
A good fight and win for Broner. Paulie, the crafty vet, I’m sure further helped Broner refine his game — something he’ll want/need when he goes back down in weight (something he said he’d do before the fight with Paulie).Posted June 23, 2013 1:40 pm
I STILL THINK PAULIE WONPosted June 23, 2013 1:30 pm
And to that I say – BUA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!Posted June 23, 2013 1:19 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
I appreciate the poster who stated Wilfred Benitez was the first to become a three time world champ by the age of 23.Posted June 23, 2013 1:02 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Ahh shaddup…Posted June 23, 2013 12:54 pm