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Tomato Can

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought, PM did all he could and made a good showing, but just didn’t get the job done. True he was the busier fighter, and Broner was pretty inactive, but PM was hitting gloves and elbows, and Broner was landing the only affective punches in that fight. PM did win rounds where Broner hardly didn’t anything, but Really Broner easily turned rounds around by landing the better shots, time and time again. I understand PM’s frustration with the scoring, but IMO he was fortunate to even get one of the judges in his favor. The guy with the 117-111 score card, may have been a bit off, but it’s hard to fault him when others saw it at 115-113 and 116-112 in Broner’s favor. That’s only off by 1-2 rounds depending on who you agree with, unless your into seeing a guy win a fight by pitty patting gloves and elbows all night, and get his head knocked back again and again. Like I said, PM did well, but his lack of power and inability to land meaningful punches, was too much to overcome in that fight, IMO….

Posted June 25, 2013 10:26 pm 


Hidalgo

Tark, your comments regarding Malignaggi’s performance cannot be taken with any credibility seeing as how you have been very vocal about how much you dislike him, the way he fights, in fact pretty much everything about him. Broner didn’t put on any dominating performance. Just because he came forward most of the night he dominated? Hardly. Paulie outboxed him and landed more punches, I don’t care what the punch stats showed.

Posted June 25, 2013 9:12 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

In reality, it was world’s away from a dominate anything for Broner. And a score of 117-111 for Broner is so backwards and corrupt that anyone with decent vision in their right mind would laugh at it.

Broner’s shots were supposed to be so much harder, but yet he never even came close to hurting or staggering PM. So, saying that Broner was hitting so much harder it totally subjective. If PM was landing roughly 3-5 shots for every 1 shot that Broner landed (which were a littler harder), than PM was thoroughly out-boxing him. Millions of people agree with me about this, including many posters on ESB.

Giving AB credit for coming forward is ridiculous considering he was being outboxed for most rounds. Do people ever give Floyd’s opponents credit for coming forward when he’s outboxing them from his bicycle? Nope! And AB certainly didn’t defend much better, because he was getting tagged constantly. Since when do body shots not count for anything — or count much less than head shots — in pro boxing???

PM has literally received millions of tweets from people saying that he got robbed. That definitely wouldn’t be happening if AB really scored a dominant win.

Posted June 25, 2013 8:45 am 


TARK

As far as all these boxers at 140 and 147 who are going to beat the crap out of Broner??? Let’s wait for the fights to take place — because Broner can fight … He’s not going to take tough opponents as lightly as he took Paulie.

This was a sparirng session, actually most sparring sessions are tougher, and he didn’t have a mark on him from any Paulie “punches.”

Posted June 25, 2013 5:58 am 


TARK

This was a dominant win for Broner…

I don’t give a damn if you scored it 115-113 for Broner — or 117-111 for Broner… There were a few rounds that Malignaggi shoe shined with nothing shots that most judges would never count in a million years — because they were total BS taps… Some judges count teeny little touches that barely make contact… But most only score effective punching.

If you want to score those taps and make the fight fairly close??? Be my guest… Broner landed more punches anyway you score, and they carried 3 times the impact.. If you want to score 115-113 for Broner, some judges score that way — but most don’t. In a neutral location Broner would have won by wider scores. He was in his house.

To boot Broner was the effective aggressor.. He defended much better.. And he controlled the ring space and distance.. ALL these scoring criteria went to Broner in a massive way.

Posted June 25, 2013 5:50 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

“But when I watched it the next morning, I scored it 116-113 in favor of Paulie, marking the 7th round as a draw. Paulie did beat Broner. Too bad he got screwed out of a great win.”

That’s some extremely accurate scoring there, Hidalgo. If I’m being very generous to Broner, my score it 115-113 for PM. If I’m being generous to Paulie, and include the 1-point deduction for AB’s flagrant foul, my score is 116-112 for PM. Paulie got straight-up ROBBED and the honest guys on ESB admit it. Peace out, mano.

Posted June 25, 2013 2:44 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Murderman — One of the coolest MFers on ESB. It’s a blessing discussing the sweet science with you as well. Peace and strength, mano.

Posted June 25, 2013 2:37 am 


hecdog

Come on people, please don’t start with the Paulie got robbed. He lost, Broner was better in all areas and he was more effective. Broner’s punches did damage, Malignaggi punches couldn’t hurt a fly. Broner will be a great one. he will get better as he learns and develops. Remember, he is a 3 time champion at age 23.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:40 pm 


Parch-1

I agree beast, it’s all what the jugdges liked, I personally was for PM, but thought most of his “body” shots were to arms and since when is that a scoring blow? Broner though isn’t nearly as good as he thinks he is and although I think he did squeak out a decision he won’t beat any of the top welters and should run his big mouth no sportsmanship ass back to lightweight.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:20 pm 


beast

There were and are lots of light hitters who would win decisions by out landing their opponent. I think it all lays with the judges and what a judge thinks wins fights, some judges like the slap artists and if they get assigned to judge a particular fight some one like Paulie will credit for his pitty pat stuff. I saw Devon Alexander beat some Russian where all his punches fell on the gloves of his opponenet and he got credit for just throwing punches, his opponent landed big shots most of the fight, but they gave the descion to Alexander. Some judges like the aggresors even if it isn’t effective, some like the runners, ( I think they call them boxers), other like the sluggers.

Posted June 24, 2013 12:00 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Broner’s got sore sides from laughing TOO much.

Posted June 24, 2013 11:33 am 


murderman

@hidalgo, squared circle – you cats know boxing like no other! Its a blessing discussing the sweet science w u gentlemen. Peace n blessing to yall

Posted June 24, 2013 10:45 am 


Hidalgo

“I agree with Murderman that Yo Paulie got robbed. I have watched the fight three times now and keep getting the same score: 115-113. ” Me too, Squared Circle. On fight night I scored the fight same as you. But when I watched it the next morning, I scored it 116-113 in favor of Paulie, marking the 7th round as a draw. Paulie did beat Broner. Too bad he got screwed out of a great win.

Posted June 24, 2013 10:19 am 


Hidalgo

“Paulie robbed himself by facing someone that he has to hit 5 times as much just to get even against. All those patty cake shots that Paulie landed were laughable like Gavin Rees’ shots. Rees vs Paulie next for the PATTY cake CHAMPION of the World!!”

You’re such a dunce hissymundo. If Paulie was so ineffective, why did Brone have such a hard time getting to him? Brone will never admit it, but he’s got some sore sides today–from all of Paulie’s body shots.

Posted June 24, 2013 10:18 am 


hookoffthejab

THE fONZ suckedd just like you do Donzomondo ………

Posted June 24, 2013 6:27 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

OH you can put Yuri Foreman in there TOO. Pitty PAT CHAMPIONS of the World!!

Posted June 24, 2013 4:59 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Paulie robbed himself by facing someone that he has to hit 5 times as much just to get even against. All those patty cake shots that Paulie landed were laughable like Gavin Rees’ shots. Rees vs Paulie next for the PATTY cake CHAMPION of the World!!

Posted June 24, 2013 4:35 am 


hookoffthejab

Mr Pratt has the beat …

Posted June 24, 2013 2:29 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

I agree with Murderman that Yo Paulie got robbed. I have watched the fight three times now and keep getting the same score: 115-113. And that’s with giving Broner an extra round that I think he lost. If I include the 1-point deduction that Broner should’ve received for kneeing/kicking that one time and/or his other dirty tactics (elbows), my score is 115-112 for PM.

I’m being 100% honest and objective here. I’ve never been a PM fan and never will be, so could care less that he lost. There was a time in boxing when you really had to beat a Champ convincingly in his hometown in order to take his title & strap. I guess those days are gone. Broner has been exposed in this last two fights as having a poor-to-average defense and other considerable limitations.

Any of the elite 5-8 fighters at 140lbs or 147lbs will outbox Broner and really beat his ass. I’d like to see AB fight the winner of Danny Garcia vs. Matthysse. I can promise you that AB will get beat by either of those two guys. He’d also get beat by Mayweather, PacMan, Bradley, JMM, Alvarado, Rios and maybe even Ruslan Provo and Kotelnik. Real talk.

Posted June 24, 2013 2:01 am 


murderman

Paulie got robbed. Broner will be smart to drop down to 140. At 147 he was slow and flat footed. Also he lost a lil speed n power. Any big ww with a punch will kill broner. He is too small to fight ww. 140 is def calling his name. Paulie will bounce back. He has heart n skills!

Posted June 24, 2013 1:35 am 


Joseph Herron

Good post, Carl.

Posted June 24, 2013 12:42 am 



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