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PEEJ

Why say that? They can still charge plenty of money for the fight. Especially selling out a bull fighting inch or soccer stadium. They don’t have to use pesos. They do have plenty if rich people in mexico

Posted June 29, 2013 2:58 am 


Havoc

In Mexico revenue will not be enough to cover Pac’s fight purse. Not unless Dynamita wants to fight for free!

Posted June 28, 2013 10:53 pm 


PEEJ

Is that why Pac is fighting in China, for PED reasons? Your right the smoke is clearing.

Posted June 28, 2013 9:04 pm 


pedro

marquez wants in mexico for PED reason.ha ha ha now the smoke slowly come out.

Posted June 28, 2013 8:06 pm 


te tumbo

I hate anyone who isnt Mexican and who wont let me swallow thier jizz.

Posted June 28, 2013 6:55 pm 


te tumbo

i could care less about any fighter outside of a boxing ring. the only reason i even know they exist is because they are willing to compete in my favorite sport. Pacquiao* is not a boxing competitor. he’s a disrespectful, cherrypicking, catchweight-compromising, random-test-and-Floyd-avoiding, promotional Hype-Job. his publicity stunts outside of a boxing ring have ZERO impact on my opinion of him as a boxer. in fact, if we applied the “great and saintly humanitarian” filter to every fighter, very few if any would measure-up to that standard inCLUDing Pacquiao*.

Posted June 28, 2013 5:37 pm 


Hecdog

Gold, you are too funny. Listen, I admire Manny Pacquiao as a boxer, but more as a person. I’m stating facts about this man. He has a variety of paths he takes and is successful in all of them. And, I don’t know Manny Pacquiao and am not the President of his fan club. The man has had so many great fights, yet he never changes who he is. He’s not egotistical or craves fame or brags to the whole world about how much money or materials he has. Never, not once. He helps his country as a philanthropist, and does wonders as a congressman. I’ve seen him give away money over and over to thousands on the streets. He just passed a Human Trafficking Bill to have stricter more punishable laws for those that do these disgusting things. He gives weekly Bible Study. He admits his faults, apologizes to those he hurts, repents, and lives a very transparent life for people to see. Why would anyone not want to admire a man like that? And Maybe, just maybe he may let his fans down in the future, but as of now. He’s a good man. I just received an autographed boxing photo of Manny Pacquiao. I admire the man, but I’m far from being obsessed by this unique athlete that some people like to tear apart. I don’t know if it’s a race thing or jealousy or something else. If you know his full story about where he came from, what he’s gone through and where he’s at today. You and others would be as amazed as I am. From filth, rags and dirt to becoming the greatest fighter in the history of boxing is a incredible accomplishment for anyone. I hopes this helps you understand my admiration of Manny Pacquiao.

Posted June 28, 2013 3:58 pm 


gold

Ditto….te tumbo…..hecdog wants SOOOO very bad to worship Manny that he creates this character to IDOLIZE. You would think he actually lived with the dude for years & years! Hec would probably cry if he found out Manny* wasnt all that he thinks him to be. Wonder how much he’d love Manny if he got caught upside his head with a PED infested punch that caused irreparable damage. Wonder how much he’d love him if he got caught with even a legit punch. He’d probably cry in adoration while experiencing the pain, asking to get knocked out voluntarily exposing the chin – with intentions to dream an actual meeting took place with him in a government building. Heck, hecgog youre delusional with this made up character. Pacquiao more than likely has some cool ways, but leave the psycho-analysis to his close friends and relatives – you DON’T KNOW HIM personally! Because he’s found some people that “sought” after him makes him even more real!? Uh Oh, Hecdog you seem a bit like a crazed stalker type fan!! “Haters hate him for being so loved”??? Thats a new one that sounds stalkish! I hope for your sake he lives up to the hype, because you might self inflict some damage to yourself when you find out all you believe isnt true. You should ask your “hero” if even HE believes your lofty imaginations exist. Please notify us what his response is when you contact him, being that youre head of his fan club….we’d find it interesting to know. peace.

Posted June 27, 2013 10:19 pm 


te tumbo

“We need more Manny Pacquiaos in this world”. you might want to start with finding just One Manny* Pacquiao* because the one you describe doesn’t even exist.

Posted June 27, 2013 2:29 pm 


Hidalgo

“Manny will beat Rios and then beat Martinez and may beat Ward if he chooses. You must understand that Manny Pacquiao is a chosen man. ” Sorry, Hecdog, but this is ridiculous. Pacquiao hasn’t fought as a jr. middleweight since he fought Margarito. So a fight with Martinez will never happen–especially considering how bad Murray made Martinez look. Pacman will never fight as a super middleweight either. Saying he “may beat Ward if he chooses” is absurd.

Posted June 27, 2013 12:34 pm 


Hidalgo

“All four fights have been on neutral turf in the USA. No, not neutral, Popkins. Arum worked very hard to make Manny Pacquiao a household name in the United States. He worked very hard to make Pacquiao a “pseudo-American” hero. No, when Pac fought Marquez he was hardly on neutral ground.

Posted June 27, 2013 12:31 pm 


Bill Hardy

I would like to see something new in boxing in stead of the same old crap.

Posted June 27, 2013 7:49 am 


hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is as fallable as any human being ever born. The difference is that he admits it, apologizes and has lived a responsible, honest, sincere, transparent life since he repented. Even if he was doing some of those things, he turned the page and is now the most beloved athlete in the history of sports. We all know how fans are if you admit your mistakes, and live an honest, loving, caring and doing things the right way life. At least he’s not a money hungry, egotistical greedy, ex con person like Mayweather or the Cheating, Ped using, liar Marquez is. Manny has true character. He walks the walk after he talks the talk. Recently, I read that he was the most sought after person in the world, not just an athlete, but a person. People have forgiven him. He’s loved by so many people, and haters hate him for being so loved. We need more Manny Pacquiaos in this world.

Posted June 26, 2013 11:09 pm 


Patrick2

HecDog — Wow! So Pacquiao was a total scumbag — cheated on your wife, tortured animals, etc — but because he “repented” and _says_ he changed his ways you now view him as a “good man?” You must be delusional! He’s just a guy with a VERY dark past and very susceptible to revert back to his old habits.

Posted June 26, 2013 7:50 pm 


Hecdog

As all good things come to an end, so does the Ped Man Puncher Juan Manuel Marquez and the Legendary Manny Pac Man Pacquiao. Rivalries in all sports are decided by who has more wins against their rival. Well, as things stand and end. Manny Pacquiao 3 clear wins and Ped Man Marquez 1 win as he was behind in the fight and taking a beating before the infamous Ped Punch. There you have it. Manny Pacquiao is the winner. Let’s add a little more to this to clarify things.

Fighter of the Decade Manny Pacquiao. Ped Man Marquez. Never won it.
Manny Pac Man Pacquiao, the ONLY 8 time division boxing champion in boxing history.

Ped Man Marquez is way behind and will never win 8 division titles.

Results: Manny Pac Man Pacquiao the better fighter by far!

Posted June 26, 2013 7:23 pm 


te tumbo

Thanks GOLD. nothing more irritating than these fanboys gushing over their idol Pacquiao* while pissing on a worthier and established ring-warrior like Marquez who defied boxing politics and promotional interests by KingTFO of Pacquiao* once-and-for-all. now that Pacquiao* has formally declined Marquez’s challenge, we can all confidently state that the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater. Viva Marquez!

Posted June 26, 2013 4:45 pm 


Moonshineman

Perhaps this writer cannot count. Pacquiao has won twice against Marquez. Why would Pacquiao care about fighting Marquez again. Knockout or not. Pacquiao is the victor.

Posted June 26, 2013 4:26 pm 


JoeKidd

Pacquiao is the best fighter since the Duran era and will rank amongst the most exciting ever. BUT…I’m not sure how he would have matched up against Duran, Hearns and those guys. As for Mayweather, he’s a piece of crap…a running Whitaker. Why people insist on sucking off these 2 guys, god knows! They’re bloody boxers for Christ’s sakes!!!

Posted June 26, 2013 3:26 pm 


Hecdog

GOLD, you obviously put some thought in your post, and although I disagree on many things, I do respect it.

Posted June 26, 2013 11:32 am 


Hecdog

Bradley fight I meant.

Posted June 26, 2013 11:28 am 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is the greatest fighter of all time, and the 8 division titles prove it without a doubt. No one in the history of the sport has ever accomplished such a feat. Marquez is a question mark forever. He was still scrambling on the testing for the Beadley fight. I’ll post that info later today after a long day of productive work. So many vultures surrounding the site today. Manny will beat Rios and then beat Martinez and may beat Ward if he chooses. You must understand that Manny Pacquiao is a chosen man. Beat him by cheating and you have now waken up a sleeping giant. Bradley, Marquez and Mayweather sure ran for their lives once they knew Manny wasn’t retiring. Bradley and Marquez were so scared they agreed to fight each other for less money. Now that’s hilarious.

Posted June 26, 2013 10:47 am 


Popkins

Pacquiao will get shafted by the ref and the judges in Mexico. Pac has beaten JMM TWICE. In four fights how many times has Marquez fought in the Phillipines?? All four fights have been on neutral turf in the USA. JMM finally wins a fight and demands that it takes place in Mexico. What a joke.

Posted June 26, 2013 5:53 am 


Happyboy

Hecdog = Chicago Guy

Posted June 26, 2013 4:20 am 


Happyboy

Last I heard I thaught you said Pac was the best ever. That suited your trolling and madness a lot more.

Posted June 26, 2013 4:19 am 


Happyboy

Hecdog – ” demonized ” LMFAO! What a clown. For your information ODH was not on his prime, nor was Mosley, Margarito or Morales he even lost his next fight to Zahir Raheem which prompted Manny to choose the looser instead of the winner betwwen the two just kike his doing now fighting Rios instaed of Alvarado but Bob is not pulling wool over the rest of us like his doing with you Pacidiots.

Posted June 26, 2013 4:18 am 


gold

hecdog….Mayweather and Marquez DON’T “dislike” him! Your hero chose a profession that renders men UNCONSCIOUS in BARBARIC fashion! His opponents arent going to feel the urge to hug him, nor are they going to feel particularly LOVED by your “hero!” Theyre going to feel trepidation mixed with some form of DISTRUST – it goes with the territory – even AFTER “playing” nice in the ring, AFTER the bout is over! The sport appeals to us because it BLENDS SKILZ with a certain amount of DANGER, we even get to see styles manifested in violent fashion! It appeals to our testosterone filled male egos that crave competition! “Accomplishments….by how he treated people,” and by what he did for “the good of society,” his “example”….”for the young generation to follow” are all nice sentiments, but can ONLY TRULY be JUDGED by you know WHO! You GUSHING over this guy doesnt make him who you SAY he is! Don’t his opponents fall into the category of “society,” & “people,” as well!? Shouldnt he have been concerned for the overall state of HIS sport, as well as for the up & coming “younger generation” of boxers in the amateur ranks!!?? His celebrity would have worked WONDERS for this issue….EVEN IF HE WAS CLEAN!!! He seems to want a lot of MONEY just like every other athlete that can GET IT! And lets not be GULLIBLE, Freddy Roach can say what he wants, If Manny wants to give away ALL his money, he would have already done so BY NOW! I guess you believe Freddy has the POWER to stop him because, “Manny is great!”…. “his” VERY PUBLIC “websight” and “google” has all “the valuable things he does for people THAT HE NEVER TELLS ANYONE,” What!!?? Hey, your guy may be all the things you think him to be, I see a pampered athlete that knows how to work the crowd! Of course I can be wrong, but I certainly won’t be looking to him for any motivation OR guidance, PRIMARILY for his EXCUSE filled PROFESSIONAL antics and for his peripheral SMOKESCREENS that once cleared, exposed a regular guy in the sport. Btw, the LEAST he could do is support a no traffiking law that helps the innocent in the world….its a no-brainer in his position. Lets hope he has the power to be a part of TRULY implementing it. Its a very complicated task….. Heck Dog, like you said we all have opinions, take care!

Posted June 26, 2013 3:56 am 


gold

te tumbo…..EXCELLENT POST!!!!! This LOVE AFFAIR that Hecdog has with PIOUS PUNK PAC is bordering on what Jim Jones had with his LOYAL followers! The PIOUS* One held NO ACCOUNTABILITY nor RESPONSIBILITY towards his so called fans, nor did he HIGHLIGHT his professed MAKER by formally REPRESENTING the SPECIAL cause that ALL of PROFESSIONAL sports NEEDED in an AMBASSADOR against DRUGS – it required CHARACTER(regardless of who 1st introduced taking OSDTng)!! The STEROID era in which we live DROVE Pac to do the SAME thing EVERY other HIGH PROFILED PAMPERED athlete has DONE: AVOID STRINGENT TEST TAKING! He REFUSED the testing MULTIPLE TIMES without batting an eye! To him, his EXCUSES, constant SMILING, SINGING, POLITICAL office, hanging out with basketball players and doing late night shows, were to suffice our NEED to know if he was on DRUGS!! He also took the WEAK SCHEDULED commissions test to PACIFY his DELUSIONAL DIE HARD fans. Then he fights STATIONARY empty SPEAKER BOXES that were either DEPLETED or INACTIVE….what a great fighter!! To be fair, This guy had an AWESOME world-wind NON TIRING style that was truly amazing to watch, coupled with his low key manufactured celebrity persona. It worked for him. But his AVOIDANCE to prove “WHAT REALLY MATTERED” will HAUNT his LEGACY FOREVER as a PROFESSIONAL boxer. Thankfully, his personal private life can & may be redeemed with his loved ones…..the thing is, he will never be able to have both. His loyal fans can prop him up on sturdy sticks and worship the facade as being REAL* – others KNOW better EVEN if we don’t know for sure!! Once again, EXCELLENT post from te tumbo, the one with the wicked(cool) skillful writing style!!!

Posted June 26, 2013 2:29 am 


hecdog

Patrick2, Manny has repented for all the wrong he has done, which is a first class thing to do. He has made up with those he has hurt and all have forgiven him. The man is as human as anyone else. The only difference is that Manny Pacquiao accepts his wrong doing, repents and puts God first in his life now. You should go to his website or google him and find out the valuable things he does for people that he never tells anyone. Freddie Roach is afraid that Manny will give away all his money to the poor. He just help write and pass a law in the Philippines that will help people that are being taken advantage of and trafficked around the world and abused. Manny Pacquiao is more than just a boxer. He’s a tremendous human being, which is why Mayeather, Pacquiao and all the haters dislike him. Measure a man not by his accomplishments in life, but rather by how he’s treated people. How much help he has done for the good of society. What kind of an example has he left for the young generation to follow. How he speaks, and what matters most to him. Manny is great!

Posted June 26, 2013 12:55 am 


Patrick2

“Demonized by drinking, gambling and womanizing.” No, he wasn’t. It was his decision, as an adult, to over indulge in alcohol, subject animals to cruelty/torture, all the while cheating on his wife. You may forgive him and lift him to sainthood, I say he’s at least as rotten a person as the other boxers you are so quick to condemn.

Posted June 25, 2013 8:52 pm 


te tumbo

“Juan manuel Marquez did fight Chris ‘the Dragon’ John and got his rear end kicked”(?). you obviously didn’t watch the fight. it was a typical hometown decision that Punkuiao* doesn’t dare risk v. Marquez in Mexico. “[Pacquiao*] gave [Champion of the Decade Juan ‘Dinamita’ Marquez] 4 fights”. Wrong Again. the Reigning Champion Marquez granted Pacquiao* the first fight. Punkuiao* shamelessly avoided the red-hot rematch for Four (4) F’n Years. “the 5th won’t happen because Marquez” can’t possibly improve on the “desired result” of IV. after all, it was Marquez who delivered on the pre-fight boasts of Pacquiao* and Roach by executing the KO to “answer all questions and remove all doubts”. after all, “when it comes to making decisions in boxing you must always go with the fighter” who won by KO. particularly when it’s the #1 KO in Boxing History. THAT’s what draws more fans worldwide. Marquez remains the biggest fight in Pacquiao’s* remaining career but it’s become pretty clear that Manny* doesn’t reeeally want to risk, or compromise, or sacrifice to redeem this DEVASTATING and LEGACY-DEFINING KO LOSS. Marquez has literally knocked Pacquiao* off of everyone’s P4P lists and the $howdown v. Floyd Mayweather is a distant memory but it’s the same old story from the greedy and suspect Pacquiao* for whom no amount of prestige, credibility, or ring-glory is more important than money. consequently, Manny* is way down the line of credible Draws and MUST now Bow-Down to Marquez’s conditions or risk NEVER redeeming the Biggest Choke or Worst KO in Boxing History. meanwhile, Juan Manuel Marquez has been officially declared the “Champion of the Decade”. he’s faced the best fighters, in their respective primes, without catchweights, or any of the other exotic conditions that are the Team Punkuiao* trademark. Marquez beat them all, across weight-classes, and didN’T duck Mayweather along the way. Punkuiao* ran from Marquez, ducked J. Diaz, Casamayor, Campbell, Mayweather, and also became notorious for being the ONLY fighter to EVER reject Random and MUTUALLY-Applied drug testing to face his primary P4P rival. consequently, he will be remembered as a good fighter, who only looked great v. average and compromised competition. the rivalry is OVER. Marquez Is Greater. Viva Marquez!

Posted June 25, 2013 7:26 pm 


Hecdog

Patrick2, yes at one time Manny Pacquiao was demonized by drinking, gambling and womanizing. Manny Pacquiao confessed to it because he is a decent, honest, caring human being that had to overcome these temptations that haunt many people. Look, we’re not all perfect, and when you’re in the public eye, you have to clean up your act to set an example for others that love you and for those that look up to you. Remember, everything came at Manny faster than lightning. Imagine being in his shoes. Today he is a great example and role model to millions upon millions of people. He continues to be a great source of inspiration to everyone. He gets endorsements all across the world because he is a real person that fails, gets back up and treats people right. He doesn’t humilate his father on TV like Floyd or go to jail. He doesn’t lie like Marquez did on TV about Hereida, and then change his story. He doesn’t swear, disrespect, get angry, ridicule or show off his money or materials. He loves people and appreciates what God has helped him accomplish in life. He’s not perfect by any means, but he’s a decent human being that doesn’t ever crave attention is is boastful in any way. Manny Pacquiao is someone we should truly admire.

Posted June 25, 2013 5:54 pm 


Hecdog

Wow! Juan manuel Marquez did fight Chris “the Dragon” John and got his rear end kicked. He did receive another loss right? The same guy that knocks out the Legendary Manny Pacquiao. Marquez also lost against Freddie Norwood, He sure looks like a monster in those fights. Now, when it comes to fights, let’s make things perfectly clear. Manny Pacquiao could and can make millions with or without Juan Manuel Marquez. He gave Mr. Ped 4 fights. The 5th won’t happen because Marquez is scared, and proved it my saying he would NEVER fight Pacquiao again. Those were his words on more than one occasion right? Now, he flip flops as liars always do and says he will fight Manny in Mexico only. What a coward. He does not understand that when it comes to making decisions in boxing you must always go with the fighter that draws more fans world wide. It doesn’t matter if Marquez won the last fight, he still isn’t very marketable world wide. Forget all the excuses. Manny was very clear that he wanted a rematch and asked over and over hearing the same old story from Ped Man Marquez. No, no, no. He has finally settled it all. Marquez want on to blab that his win was more important than money, and that his wife and family deserve his retirement, and who knows how many more lame excuses he said. Bottom line is Manny is fighting Rios and making his regualr 20-30-40-50 million dollars while both Ped Man Marquez and Bradley are making pennies instead of what they could have made fighting Pacquiao. I ubderstand that both of thee guy know that Manny is quite upset and may seriously hurt them in a rematch, but please Marquez, don’t come up with all these excuses. Boxing has two worldwide Superstars that bring in more $$$$ than all the rest of the boxers combined. Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather. These guys making the calls in their fights unless their opponents are bigger draws. Marquez is way down the line. He MUST bow down to Manny’s demands until he can draw outside of his home town. And by the way, Manny is the only fighter in this decade that fought the best fighters in their prime or close to their prime. He beat them all. Marquez ran from Rios and Broner. Manny Pacquiao is the best of his era.

Posted June 25, 2013 5:42 pm 


Patrick2

@ Hecdog — You describe Pacquiao as “an even better man” than he is boxer. Care to comment then on his known, and publicly admitted, vices of womanizing, gambling, and drinking?

Posted June 25, 2013 5:29 pm 


te tumbo

“Instead of taking the rematch, Marquez demanded more money” because he was STILL the reigning champion and Pacquiao* was nothing but a frustrated challenger looking for an easy title to claim. bottomline, Marquez and Pacquiao* rejected HBO’s initial $1.5 mill offer after which Murad Muhammad went out and made the fight with Morales just one day later. the same and presumably faded and vulnerable Morales who was coming off another flat-performance and loss v. Barrera. No Further Negotiation with Team Marquez was even attempted(?!) but that’s no coincidence. Pacquiao* never intended to face Marquez and HBO’s virtual non-offer let them off the hook, which enabled them to sign a presumably less-riskier PPV bout v. Morales instead and LOSE. meanwhile, while HBO was offering JMM and Pacquiao* $1.5 million to split for their red-hot rematch, they gave Mayweather $2 mill to fight Bruseles on regular cable(?!). C’mon!? Marquez v. Pacquiao* II would have made PPV millions and HBO demands that these two guys split $1.5 mill!? nonetheless, not unlike his most recent KO loss, it was still Pacquiao’s* historic CHOKE to redeem. in any case, Marquez never ducked anyone inCLUDing Chris John (has Pacquiao* ever dared consider facing this difficult and virtually local opponent?). you need to get a clue about the way things are run in boxing before posting gossip/speculation as gospel truth.

Posted June 25, 2013 3:44 pm 


Señor.BKLA

ONLY A BLIND PACTAR..D. A.K.A. HEC#%^. Would need to comment about 30 times the same thing over and over again…stubborn ,,blind people… L.o.L. Keeps posting HECDOG… MAYBE you missed something on your last 30 comments .

Posted June 25, 2013 3:21 pm 


Hecdog

JoeKidd, I like your post. Sums it all up.

Posted June 25, 2013 1:37 pm 


JoeKidd

So what if Marquez gives Pacquiao fits? Like Norton and Ali. So it goes. If Pacquiao just concentrate on outpointing Marquez, he could do that every day of the week. It’s Pacquiao’s over aggressiveness that gives Marquez a chance. Frankly, I’ve seen enough of Marquez’s game. Let’s see Pacquiao with some new stars. They’ve got to make that Mattheus fight! That’s the only guy out there that has the same mentality as Pacquiao in that they are keen to take on the best.

Posted June 25, 2013 12:08 pm 


te tumbo

“[Pacquiao*] won 3 fights and was destroying Marquez in the 4th fight before the Ped Punch landed” even without the “scoring error”, Manny* didn’t win the necessary 5/12 to mathematically prevail in their first bout. if so, i dare anyone to identify those rounds. i personally gave Pacquiao* 1, 2, 9, and scored the 10th even. way short of a scorecard majority. meanwhile, Pacquiao* was only ahead by a single point going into the 6th of IV. the only round he truly dominated until that point was 5. if Marquez had only scored another KD in 6, the fight would’ve been dead even going into the 7th. however, Marquez was obviously locked-in and determined to keep successfully Socking Manny* with that overhand right. the same Punch that Dropped Pacquiao* in the 3rd. it was landing and missing with regularity the entire fight but the final one was unavoidable and precise. even so, Marquez only KTFO of a welterish Pacquiao* who himself started out at a lighter weight than Marquez. that’s no demonstration of dramatically-improved punching power. after all, they’re virtually the same size with an edge to Pacquiao* who outweighed Marquez by 4lbs in IV. nonetheless, with Heredia’s training regimen endorsed by Ariza himself, Marquez was able to enhance and preserve the last weapon to disappear from every fighter’s arsenal: his punching power. besides, they haven’t always called Marquez “Dinamita” for nothing. Manny* should’ve taken the blood-red “DANGER” signs popping-up all around him more seriously.

Posted June 25, 2013 11:42 am 


Hidalgo

” Serious? That very much says he wants no part of Manny Pacquiao. ” How’s that? Marquez wants the advantage of fighting on his home field for once. So what? Pac worried about Marquez cheating and getting away with it in Mexico? What about all those years of doubt about the possibility of Pacquiao cheating? Remember when Pacquiao wanted his PED tests to be run in the Philippines? Still, this is all very interesting because back in February Marquez said he didn’t want another fight and that the series ended with the fourth fight. At the same time, Beristan, his trainer, said he’d like to see Marquez fight Rios and he thought that Arum would like that because it would bring attention to the young Rios, an up-and-comer in Arum’s stables. But now Rios will be fighting Pacquiao–a move by Arum to penalize Marquez because he didn’t immediately agree to a 5th fight with Pacquiao? Maybe that’s why Marquez is now saying he’ll fight Manny?

Posted June 25, 2013 11:27 am 


Q

Zjerr: I agree with all of that, but I won’t comment on rather he used PED’s or not, because we don’t know. He can get the benefit of the doubt, but I’m not going to make a definitive statement on that either way.

Posted June 25, 2013 11:14 am 


Zjerr

I for one would love to see a 5th fight and I believe Pacquiao will win due to the fact that he was busting Marquez up and winning the rounds before he got caught. Also, I don’t believe Marquez was juiced. That was just a perfect punch.

Posted June 25, 2013 10:04 am 


Rolando

everyone is so sure about JMM using PEDS. is it really that surprising that someone of JMM’s skill after losing controversial decisions would change his game-plan by working on his strength? i mean the guy has been boxing his whole damn life. you see people getting swole in 3 months using p90x and these insanity videos. you think someone boxing his whole damn life can’t get muscle with the types of trainers he has and better dieting? give me a break. half of you ever trained a day in your life. keyboard warriors for real!!

Posted June 25, 2013 9:25 am 


Rolando

Lawd!!! the pactards come out in swarms

Posted June 25, 2013 9:02 am 


Happyboy

Bottom line is Manny needs Marquez more than Marquez needs him or he can go fight in Far East vs more taylormade flat footed, no defense Top Rank punchbags. Alvarado just busted up Rios who previously robbed Abril at lightweight now his suppose to beat Manny, Bob sure knows how to ” Rob’em “.

Posted June 25, 2013 8:41 am 


malachi

bible of boxing`its about time marquez did things his way and believe me he doesn’t need pac anymore after that brutal display,pac needs him and i hope marquez sticks to his guns and make all the demands or keep it moving or retire but i think its no longer about the money for marquez one of the top 5 fighters today!! yuup!

Posted June 25, 2013 7:46 am 


The Bible of Boxing

Marquez is a great fighter and so is Bernard Hopkins but neither draw huge crowds nor get great ratings. B-Hop knows that and is now angling to face foreign fighters in their homes to get maximum money. He accepts that he is a B side or at least needs a very good partner to get a decent payday. Marquez has every right to refuse to fight Manny because of the decisive ko whether it was luck, perfect timing or PED tainted.
If he however wants his biggest ever payday, he has to face Manny. If he does not want to appear to be running from Manny he will have to face him again. Frazier and Norton gave Ali hell but both were destroyed by Foreman who was destroyed by Ali.
Like those guys and Ali, it is obvious that Marquez has a style that meshes well with Manny, but the official records show that he lost 2, drew one and there is debate on that KO. To be fair, there was debate on the three earlier fights.
The 1st was ruled a draw because one judge scored the 1st rd 10-7 instead on 10-6. Instead of taking the rematch, Marquez demanded more money yet went to Indonesia to lose to John for even less money. The 2nd and 3rd fights depending on who you liked or which boxing writer you believed, could have gone either way. I personally had Manny winning both but would not cry robbery if they went the other way.
That is boxing. I have seen fights where there was no doubt who won but it went to the guy who was clearly beaten. Whitaker beat Chavez. Hearns beat Leonard 2. Rios was clearly beaten by an unknown 3-4 fights ago. The list goes on and on. But when a fight is razor close, it depends on who we as fans favour or what style the judges like. I thought Trout beat Canelo but it was not a robbery.
Marquez is a big baby and I mean BIG as he suddenly looks like a cartoon character with huge head and body and small legs. But despite all the hype neither he and the other muscle monster Bradley are draws. Their fight will be great but they still do not draw big numbers. if they fight an A attraction then they get paid. He cannot dictate to Manny when or where to fight nor how much he can get. If he loses to Bradley it will be like Chris John all over again.
And for the record, yes the $40,000,000 Floyd offered Manny was more than he ever made but that fight was going to be the biggest ever. If Manny had accepted Floyd would have made more than $100,000,000, more than double whatever he ever made. If you give Floyd the benefit as an American being the bigger seller there, Manny is bigger worldwide and deserved 50/50. But I could live with 52/48 for Floyd just to see the match. The fact that Floyd is his own boss should not affect what Manny gets and what he pays out to others. Guys get a better deal facing Manny than Floyd because Floyd is greedy. Manny also has a lousy contract with Rob’em and air’um but that does not allow Floyd to take the lion’s share.

Posted June 25, 2013 7:13 am 


The Bible of Boxing

Marquez biggest payday was against Manny and the next biggest was against Floyd, but that was only because Floyd came in over weight and he got an extra $600,000.
If you add up all of the earnings from all his previous fights including his 1st 2 vs Manny, he probably did not make as much as he did in the last fight.
This proves he needs Manny to make big $ and he will face him again for his biggest. He is just posturing to get as much as he can. If I were Manny I would give him ten maybe twelve million and that’s it. There have been historical fights e.g. Tony Zale and Ricky Graziano where each fight was more brutal. Zale won 1st then Rocky and then Zale again all by brutal KO’s. Paterson and Johansson had 3 fights; Paterson was brutally koed the 1st and returned the favour twice in return matches.
Lewis vs Rahman and Lewis vs McCall. He reversed both ko’s. There are also fights where one guy got brutally koed and went back and boxed rings around his conqueror. I said it before, Manny and Marquez are linked like Ali was with Frazier and Norton. Marquez is great but no way he beats the guys that Manny beat to become a 8 time champion. Styles make fights!!!!!!

Posted June 25, 2013 7:11 am 


Anonymous

Pac is scared s hitless.

Posted June 25, 2013 5:26 am 


zera

truth is, i’m a Pac Fan, the moment Manny signed the 4th fight with Marquez, I said to myself “Bad decision for Manny…” see, Manny’s struggling with Marquez, no matter how many fights they fight.

as for the 5th fight, i still disagree with it. Manny is just making himself look bad at this one, just let it go Manny. even though Manny is “Winning” in their last fight until getting iced by the right hand, still, it is a bad fight.

Broner, Maidana, Alvarado, even Rios, Garcia, Mathysse, now this will give him a chance to redeem himself and raise his stocks again, but every single one of these guys can give him problems, even KTFO him again, but still…… It will be entertaining and will be competitive, and as a boxing fan, it will be FUN!!

Posted June 25, 2013 4:43 am 


Hecdog

Thanks TJ, I enjoy it also. I know I go overboard sometimes, and some people go crazy on me, but I have a good time. People need to relax a bit, it’s just opinions and conversations. Don’t take life or the things people say so serious. Relax.

Posted June 25, 2013 3:54 am 


TJ

HECDOG…

Always nice debating with you…. I love your passion for the sport!

Posted June 25, 2013 3:46 am 


hecdog

TJ, I respect your view on this. I still say Manny is the better fighter and will make a come back of historic proportion. He may even win a 9th title.

Posted June 25, 2013 3:22 am 


TJ

HECDOG, MY MAN….

Officially Manny has beaten Dinamita twice and drawn once and been KTFO once….

Unofficially Pac has beaten Dinamita once, drawn once, lost over 12 once and been KTFO once!

Their rubber bout was scored for the wrong guy…. Dinamita beat him, but not the judges!
Sorry mate, just saying…..

Posted June 25, 2013 2:55 am 


The Prince

Marquez is doing what he should: Proving he’s now in the drivers seat and that Manny and Top Rank need to bow down if they want that fifth fight. Good for him.

Posted June 25, 2013 2:52 am 


TJ

RIGHT ABOUT NOW, PACQUIAO or more to the point Rob Arum, is all about the money!

In saying this, Pac is no longer bothered about titles or kudos, but about the dollar bill. This is why they are seeking the pastures of the Middle East and the Far East to feather their nests and increase Rob’s retirement fund by exploiting anyone marketable enough for the gullible fans to shell out their hard-earned in an attempt to be able to say I saw Manny fight in the flesh…..

After RIOS (and if he should win and he should find Rios a willing and able punchbag), the most logical bout out there for so many reasons is a match with none other than AMIR KHAN at Welterweight.

There is unfinished business between these two WILDCARD buddies and Amir told anyone who would listen that he used to bash the ears off of Manny in their sparring sessions!!!!!

Coupled with Amir’s split from Freddy this is a ready-made, sure-fire money bout that will pay both participants handsomely for 12 rounds of competitive action.

Amir should have a ready made fan base if it is anywhere near the Middle East so they could command a massive stadium for this.

I would like to see if these stories/ rumours/ gossip about Khan handling Manny with his speed are true or will Manny walk through Amir and smash him to pieces????

IMHO this is the best and most logical fight for Manny after he faces Brandon Rios and for Amir too…..

A victory over Pacman makes a bout with Floyd Mayweather both viable and acceptable to all boxing fans!!!!

Posted June 25, 2013 2:51 am 


Hecdog

Brutal comments gentlemen, but I will respect your opinions. Now, let me clarify all this mess in order to straighten things out. Manny Pacquiao is head and shoulders above Juan Manuel Marquez. He’s won 3 fights and was destroying Marquez in the 4th fight before the Ped Punch landed. Manny Pacquiao is a much bigger draw and respected by more boxing fans around the world. He is the Fighter of the Decade. He is the ONLY 8 division boxing champion in the HISTORY of boxing. He never avoided anyone like Marquez and Mayweather have. Pacquiao never hired a master Ped supplier to the US Track athletes like Marquez did. Manny did not lie to viewers like Marquez did when he said he knew nothing about Hereida and then switched history. He’s a liar. Never trust liars. Manny Pacquiao sells more PPV and has more endorsements than any boxer today. Manny Pacquiao is a living legend that had a reign of terror never before seen, and will never be seen. Manny is one of the world’s top actors, singers, philanthropist’s congressman. soon to be President, loved by all, helper of the poor and the best boxer in the history of boxing. Yet with all this said, he is a humble, honest, loving, caring, honest, gentleman, great father, brother and son. Manny Pacquiao, the living legend is what’s good and decent in our world. He is on TIME Magazine, commercials on TV, visits President Obama, and even gives him advice. We are all lucky to be able to see this man in our life time. No matter how much all of you laugh at him, he continues to show true class and character never once criticizing anyone. He smiles, enjoys his family and gives weekly Bible studies that most if not all of you should attend. Jealousy and envy get you nowhere. Manny Pacquiao is a man that has integrity and humility. He is always the same and greets you with a warm smile. He came from nothing and came on the boxing scene as a hurricane destroys cities. Manny loves everyone. This is a true man of God that has accomplished more than most ever will. Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter, the best ever, but he’s an even better man.

Posted June 25, 2013 2:45 am 


rax

hecdog – you’re clearly just one of those one eyed pac fans huh? I’d hate to have you on a jury mate, you convict without any evidence – or more to the point you think supposition is evidence. you think because you have an opinion that makes it fact. narcissist much? yes jmm looked better than in previous fights – but not in previous pac fights. great fighters almost always lift when faced by an equally great fighter – even more so when fighting there arch rival (the great example of this was frazier in manilla)
jmm rocked pac with the same punch (looping overhand right) in fight #2 – this fight was always going to have a different outcome than the other fights. both fighters and experts alike repeatedly stated that the winner of this fight would have to do something different as the 3 fights basically yielded the same result. the fact here is both fighters looked for the early ko – one was reckless doing so and got starched. it happens. get over it. you don’t here pac making excused so why should you.

Posted June 25, 2013 1:10 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Ray: Dude… I’m Mexican and far from a “Pactard’… LOL. I like JMM and Pac both, so am being 100% honest and fair in my assessment. You may not agree with me man, but that’ cool. And trust me… I’m not going to lose any sleep if Pacman loses every fight for the remainder of his career. I truly believe that Pac leads the series: 2-1-1. But don’t hate on me just because you don’t agree.

Posted June 25, 2013 12:21 am 


PEEJ

The Bradley fight was much closer than what people think. Pac was not landing many punches and he was only fighting 30 seconds a round. That is what cost him the fight. Did I have Bradley winning, no. But what I mentioned before is why he lost the fight. As for Marquez, well he holds all the cards if Pac really wants a rematch.

Posted June 25, 2013 12:11 am 


Ray

” I really dont think Pacquioa is afraid to JMM, he just knows he leads the 4- fight series….” sure dude keep telling Pacquioa that. Whatever makes him sleep better at night…oops…. I mean. Too soon?..lol

Posted June 25, 2013 12:09 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

“And if Marquez beats Bradley then then Pac would definitely have to go with what Marquez wants if he really wants to fight him again.” Yeah… well maybe. But then again… maybe not.

Let’s not forget that PacMan beat Bradley in what most professional boxing analysts and pundits consider to be one of the worst robberies in history. Even SREDMOND will tell you that. I really don’t think PacMan is afraid to fight JMM again, he just knows that he leads their 4-fight series, so doesn’t have to.

Posted June 25, 2013 12:03 am 


sweet_scientist

Pacquiao is HOLDING out so he can CASH out his BOXING CAREER with a BIG Mayweather fight!!

Posted June 25, 2013 12:02 am 


Ray

Near draws that require multiple rematches is not exactly winning the series. Get KTFO is more like winning. Whine all you want, Marquez clutched the series championship by brutal KO. Thats how people gonna remember it. Thats why Pacquioa has that ” high” tax excuse and last seen sent retreating back to asia. He didnt do that with Bradley. Face it! Pacquioa is marked for life. He will have nightmares from that brutal KO for life. Run Paquioa! Run! Run back to asia where its safe. Good one Pacquioa just like when you were scared of the needles. Pathetic…

Posted June 24, 2013 11:59 pm 


PEEJ

Well if he offered him the fight in Mexico and he declined then he must not really want the fight. All this talk about Marquez is scared and not willing to fight him is dumb if this offer was really made. And who cares if he leads it, the 3rd fight Marquez clearly won. I thought Marquez lost the first 2 fights. But Marquez KO’d Pac and boxing is a fine case of what have you done for me now. And if Marquez beats Bradley then then Pac would definitely have to go with what Marquez wants if he really wants to fight him again.

Posted June 24, 2013 11:54 pm 


BLUESMAN

My crew can’t go for that, ahha no can doooooooooooooo

Posted June 24, 2013 11:23 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

PacMan still leads the series: 2-1-1. Nuff said.

I like JMM a lot, but that’s why he’s begging for a chance to tie the series. But remember: PacMan was winning their last fight before he got caught. Just being honest and fair, here.

Posted June 24, 2013 10:32 pm 


BLUESMAN

Hecdog is a little bi@ch!

Posted June 24, 2013 10:28 pm 


L’il Hec

Stop bullying little Hecdog. I can hear him sobbing in the corner. Don’t worry Hecdog there is always a spot on Jimmy Kimmel for Paquiao. Maybe he can punch Tosh in the face again and get some confidence from that. Of course this will need to take place in between his affairs and adultery.

Posted June 24, 2013 10:16 pm 


Money_May_All_Day

Hecdog, you suck. Get off the site.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:45 pm 


hecdog

Why would Marquez and Nacho lie about Hereida? Why would they change their story a few days later? Liars are never to be trusted. One day the truth will come out. I’m quite certain after putting all the pieces of the puzzle together objectively, Marquez cheated.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:44 pm 


gold

He NEVER wanted to take the BETTER testing! The initial 3 times he LEFT the NEGOTIATING TABLE – when asked: he REFUSED to take the OSTng with NO CUT OFF date! He then fought STATIONARY targets, TARGETS that required ONLY the LIMITED boxing Commissions tests! Punk Pac could have called Floyds BLUFF, IF there was a BLUFF to call!! “IF” Pac was REALLY on NOTHING, he HAD the UPPER HAND PSYCHOLOGICALLY on Mayweather – BY FAR!!! He couldve handed Mayweather his FIRST LOSS in the RING by having the ADVANTAGE on the MOST IMPORTANT PART – THE MIND!! Floyd was ACTUALLY FEARFUL of the NON-STOP POWERFUL whirlwind style that was DESTROYING these DEHYDRATED INACTIVE CHOICES that Team Pac MADE!! Floyd STILL saw something in Pac that was ABNORMALLY GREAT!! Pacs ARROGANCE was TOO BIG for his own good, and Marquez’ digestible PEE worked wonders as he KNOCKED Pac into WONDERLAND, where he couldnt even see Alice! Now all of a SUDDEN he’s WILLING to submit to STRINGENT testing! ONLY NOW his conscience is talking to him??!! I WONDER WHY?! To be fair he can fight Marquez on neutral ground, they BOTH can refuse TESTING on the whole! lol.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:39 pm 


Patrick2

@ HecDog — The punch that Marquez KO’d Pac with was from point-blank range, multiplied by the fact that Pac never saw it coming. Combine those two elements and THAT is why Pac fell like a ton of bricks. Though if you’re biased for Pac continue to believe your conspiracy theory…

Posted June 24, 2013 9:38 pm 


hecdog

I think the best thing for Marquez is not to fight Manny Pacquiao again. He really doesn’t want to and he has said so himself numerous times, but as he always does, he will only fight Pacquiao if and only if the fight is held in Mexico. Serious? That very much says he wants no part of Manny Pacquiao. Why on earth would Manny or any other top fighter go to Marquez’s country and home to fight him. He would get away with murder over there, and he knows it that’s why he made that offer after all along saying he would never fight Manny again. You just can’t trust a liar like Marquez. I used to like him, but he is as scandelous as they come. Flip flopping on everything. Bradley did the smart thing by demanding strict drug testing, which may not help since the NSAC i dumb enough to let everyone an their mother what they test for. Las Vegas has always been and will always be corrupt. No one should know what the commission is testing for especially to a guy that is a master of masking any ped.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:30 pm 


Hidalgo

So now high taxes is the excuse? Manny won’t fight Juan in Mexico? I say screw it, Juan. You already KOd his ass dead. If he doesn’t want to avenge his devasting loss, too bad for him.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:20 pm 


Junio

hecdog :

Just remember, they accused Alex Ariza and Manny Pac of PED usage. Ariza’s personal opinion, has been that Memo is not giving anything to JMM. Take it however you like, but again, remember; Ariza and Pac were in that very same position…people accusing them of “improving” in areas that haven’t been likely in boxing at certain points in a fighter’s career.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:18 pm 


paqiuout

Pac still a big draw after doing the filipina hotizontal wedding night dance against JMM? Id rather see the GReat Marquez fight someone current, not some needle phobic canvas humper.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:15 pm 


Tomato Can

Correction: ” If that doesn’t give a fighter bragging rights as well as leverage concerning any future bouts, nothing will.”

Posted June 24, 2013 9:07 pm 


Tomato Can

What would make a fighter more content than putting his arch rival to sleep in front of millions. If that does give a fighter bragging rights as well as leverage concerning any future bouts, nothing will. Besides who could blame Manny for never wanting to go through that again?

Posted June 24, 2013 9:05 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, Pacquiao* did ask Rios to meet him in China and Rios accepted without ever being KTFO by Pacquiao*.

Posted June 24, 2013 9:05 pm 


te tumbo

“Pac never asked Marquez to fight in the philipines” but if he did, you can bet that Marquez would’ve accepted. besides, Pac* never drilled Marquez face-first into the ring-canvas with a rivalry-ending KO in front of an international audience including his horrified wife. you’d think Pacquiao* would want to do SOMEthing about that(?!?).

Posted June 24, 2013 9:04 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

NO NEED for these two to have a 5th fight. That’s just plain ridiculous.

Posted June 24, 2013 8:44 pm 


rax

would you stop all the PED talk re JMM please. Marquez tested negative to PED’s. there is no evidence other than association which isn’t evidence. marquez getting better with age is also debatable – more likely it was pac that has slipped as he looked less than his best vs Bradley (what with taking half of every round off) te tumbo mentions maravilla’s ko of Williams well Martinez is another fighter who got better late in his career – he is a fighter who moved up weight and found a one punch ko of previously rock chinned opponent – is anyone suggesting SM was on PED vs Pdub? or does he have to be associated with a past provider of PEDs for that? its just ridiculous that you fans of pacquiao are such poor losers you can’t accept that he just got careless with a fighter that had always been his kryptonite

Posted June 24, 2013 8:42 pm 


hecdog

Good points Big Al. Manny can call the shots because he’s the draw and the attraction. It’s obviously not Marquez, he doesn’t draw flies. Manny is a world wide draw. People come to see him, not Marquez, and especially after his Ped Performance. He’s not trust worthy. Look at the fan out poor for Manny. They love the guy.

Posted June 24, 2013 8:25 pm 


Big Al

Pac never asked Marquez to fight in the philipines.

Posted June 24, 2013 8:07 pm 


Big Al

Marquez is asking for too much these days.

Posted June 24, 2013 8:06 pm 


te tumbo

“Marquez will get exposed one day soon”? when? when he turns 44? after achieving the “desired result” in IV, i wouldn’t count on Marquez hanging around another 4 years waiting for Punkuiao* to finally rebuild his confidence.

Posted June 24, 2013 8:00 pm 


hecdog

Pacquiao gets right back into it fighting a tough Brandon Rios, the same guy that Marquez ran from. Marquez instead chose to fight a guy Pacquiao already wore out. Marquez will get exposed one day soon. No one trusts him since the Pacquiao fight. It doesn’t really matter who or where Manny Pacquiao fights, he’s brings in more fans than any other boxer and that includes Mayweather. Once Manny destroys Rios, you’ll see Marquez and Mayweather run for their lives. Many Pacquiao is a living legend that fears no one. All of you that take joy in seeing Manny lose will give him credit as he climbs back on topand beats anyone including Mayweather, Broner and Martinez and Ward. Marquez is old news, Manny beat him 3 times clearly. Bradley is old news also. Manny destroyed him already.

Posted June 24, 2013 7:55 pm 


PRIMO

By now if someone can’t see that Marquez is the superior fighter to Pacquiao then it’s pure self induced denial, period

Posted June 24, 2013 7:53 pm 


hecdog

Can someone please let me know if there has ever been a fighter other than Manny Pacquiao that has won 8 division championships in the history of boxing. Technically, that makes him the greatest fighter of all time. That is incredible and amazing that a man that came from nothing and never failed a drug test did what he did with no amateur background or high level training. Imagine if he had an Emmanuel Steward in his corner from the start. He may have won 1o titles by now. Manny Pacquiao is a once in a lifetime fighter.

Posted June 24, 2013 6:59 pm 


third world

marquez going to k.o. bradley. jmm is smarter than provodnikov,who is a tough ‘lil f***er. pacquiao is just content to cash in on the pacquiao tour in macua,fighting blown up lightweights.i would like to see jmm vs. provodnikov after bradley.

Posted June 24, 2013 6:53 pm 


Prof Konje

I also feel that the reason Pacquiao never faced Mayweather was due to Arum not wanting to lose his “golden goose” and Pacquaio’s fear of loosing to Mayweather. Now I believe that Pac-Man knows that he cannot beat Marquez and the high tax rate in Mexico has very little to do with anything. It’s fear of losing in the ring for Pacquaio and fear of losing money to taxes for Arum. Either way, the fans will not get to see Marquez or Mayweather fight Pacquaio.

Posted June 24, 2013 6:45 pm 


hecdog

Manny Pacquiao will always be regarded as the better fighter. Marquez will always be regarded as the guy in question. The fighter that gets better at 40 years of age that also hired the best known Ped supplier to the Olympic athletes. Yes, most boxing enthusiasts know that Marquez was on something just like that one guy by the name of Barry Bonds. Head grew bigger, muscles grew bigger and started hitting the ball with more power than he had in his entire career. Hmm….sound familiar? Remember, you don’t have to find a weapon only a motive to convict someone of murder. In this case, if Marquez looks, acts and walks like a cheater, he’s a cheater. Manny Pacquiao won 8 division titles. How Many has Marquez won? So, this makes Manny the better fighter in the record books and in the opinion of most boxing fans. Maanny Pacquiao is the greatest boxer ever. All you have to do is count the number of titles any fighter has won.

Posted June 24, 2013 6:36 pm 


te tumbo

BG, Marquez’s KO win and latest challenge is now a matter of public record. how will Pacquiao* live both down if he doesn’t humble himself (like Marquez frequently did) and simply fight to recapture his former and lofty PPV status on Marquez’s terms? true greatness requires compromise and sacrifice + Manny* appears incapable of either = he is not truly great.

Posted June 24, 2013 6:12 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, i am adamant that Marquez prevailed in each and every bout between himself and Pacquiao and Arum’s approved judging panel. from the Biggest Choke in Boxing History to the #1 KO in Boxing History, and every matchup in between. Pacquiao* did NOT take 5/12 rounds in the first bout; the unofficial scorecards (including that of Donaire and Ronnie Nathanielz) chose the correct winner in II and III; and Marquez’s FIST “answered all questions and removed all doubts” about who the greater fighter was in IV and ever more. the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater. Viva Marquez!

Posted June 24, 2013 6:08 pm 


BG Boxing

Damn Te Tumbo that was brutal, poor hecdogs lady is probably crying ringside right now.

Posted June 24, 2013 6:05 pm 


te tumbo

“Let’s agree that Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter” as IF Manny* wasn’t Brutally KTFO in the most convincing manner possible by Marquez? in fact, after Martinez KO’d Williams, i can recall imagining Marquez doing the same to Pacquiao*. Marquez’s actual KO win exCeeded my imagination. anyway, thanks for revealing that selective memory is the secret to remaining a Pacquiao* fan.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:53 pm 


hecdog

Te Tumbo, you’re something else my friend. Let’s agree that Manny Pacquiao is the better fighter.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:34 pm 


te tumbo

it’s once again obvious that Pacquiao* doesn’t Reeeeally want to face Marquez, which is why Marquez is moving on to face the other fighter who defeated Pacquiao*. after all, Marquez can’t wait another 4 years for Manny* regains his confidence, which was never at 100% to begin with and is hovering at around 15%-20% nowadays.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:30 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* is a D-List singer and actor; his “philanthropy” consists of being able to bribe corrupt politicians and buy votes; i’ve yet to read of a SINGLE piece of legislation authored and/or championed by “Congressman” Pacquiao*; if he loses to Rios, he can kiss his presidential hopes Paalam; and if he refuses to face Marquez a 5th time on Marquez’s terms he can kiss his ring-legacy Paalam as well.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:19 pm 


Ray

” Marquez would not have reached the heights hes at right now if it were not for Paquioa…” wow….simply wow. So basicly Marquez is only famous because of Pacquioa?? What about all his fights prior to Pacquioa, heck he even fought Mayweather, Pacquioa did not. Well then in that case Pacquioa should thank Marquez for crushing him and putting him to sleep because thats the only way, people will remember Pacquioa. Thank you Marquez.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:13 pm 


te tumbo

“Marquez can’t dictate . . .”(?). look and read again. Marquez IS dictating terms to Pacquiao* IF he wants to redeem being on the wrong side of the #1 KO in Boxing History. the ball’s in Pacquiao’s* court (if not his pants). he either Steps-Up or PUNKs-Out once again. his fans should encourage him to Step-Up and dare real and authentic ring-greatness. or simply accept that Marquez is the greater fighter, which is reinforced by his refusal to accept Marquez’s terms.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:10 pm 


hecdog

Just a reminder. Manny Pacquiao is the only 8 division champion in boxing history. He is a major movie star, singer, actor, philanthropist, Congressman and soon to be president. His reign of terror when he dismantled, Diaz, Barrera, Hatton, Marquez, De La Hoya, Clottey, Morales and others will never be matched. He wast voted Fighter of the Decade among other awards. Pistachio commercials, Henessy commercials, Pacquiao wear out sells most athletes. This is a man that is loved by all people. A humble, respectful, honorable caring Bibls Study Teacher. Manny Pacquiao is an honorable man that does only good for boxing and humanity. Manny Pacquiao passed a Human trafficking lawManny Pacquiao is the greatest fighter to have ever laced on a pair of boxing gloves. He will go down in history as the best boxer of all times. Just below him are greats such as Robinson, Duran, Louis, Chavez, and others. Now, please tell me how Marquez deserves to make any calls on the fight. Manny is the best.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:07 pm 


te tumbo

“Marquez would have never reached the heights he’s at right now if it weren’t for” his fierce and unrelenting determination to stalk Pacquiao* across weight-classes and concede every conceivable advantage to face him in a boxing ring once again. Pacquiao* has never demonstrated the same determination to face his own P4P rivals. on the contrary. haggling over purse sizes, location, and stricter testing always emerged to sabotage the most eagerly-anticipated Pacquiao* matchups, i.e., Manny’s* version of the desired result. profits not ring-glory or greatness are Pacquiao’s* priority, which is why Marquez (and Mayweather) remain Greater.

Posted June 24, 2013 5:04 pm 


te tumbo

while it’s possible (if not likely) that Pacquiao* juiced beyond 130lbs, i’ve always suspected that fear of being cruelly dominated and humiliated by Mayweather was the primary reason for Manny’s* panicked and bogus excuses to reject Floyd’s request for Harmless, Random, and MUTUALLY-Applied testing. in fact, i’ve always maintained that Mayweather dominates ANY version of Pacquiao* that ever stepped into a boxing ring. strictly tested or otherwise. Pacquiao* has never been on Mayweather’s elite level and after being FLATTENED in his last bout, he’s not on Marquez’s level either. Marquez is Greater.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:54 pm 


hecdog

Marquez can’t dictate anything to a man that has beaten him more, and has basically made Marquez. Marquez would have never reached the heights he’s at right now if it weren’t for Manny Pacquiao. Marquez could never draw flies ever. Manny is the biggest draw in boxing regardless of who he fights. Marquez sure wanted no part of any rematch since the ped Punch fight, but now he says yes only because it’s in his home court? tells you he story of boxing. He’s on the cover of TIME Magazine, he’s a congressman for his Country. The man has commercials all over TV. HMM….what does Marquez bring to the table? Hereida and the Ped Punch, and he thinks he can dictate terms. Sorry, things don’t work that way. Manny can move on to bigger and better things. If Marquz doesn’t find a way to use his Ped formula for Bradley, he may lose. Good thing that Manny requested strict drug testing.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:53 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* has ZERO leverage v. Marquez who planted him face-first and butts-up into the ring canvas. if Pacquiao* wants to insist on hiding behind fear of tax rates or hostile crowds it only reinforces his profile of being Arum’s house-fighter but NOT an ATG ring-warrior the likes of Marquez. Pacquiao* can pretend that he’s still a primary PPV Draw but his loss to Bradley and his Mexicution at the fists of Marquez make him no more marketable than Cotto at the PPV level. even Chicago Gal no longer believes in Pacquiao*. a Marquez win v. Bradley will seal his superiority over Pacquiao* that only a win in a 5th bout v. Marquez in Mexico cab undo. otherwise, the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is Greater. Viva Marquez1

Posted June 24, 2013 4:46 pm 


Ray

Hecdog – I think you’ re a joke. Neutral ground? Vegas ring a bell? How many fights did they have there? Now all of sudden Marquez cant dictate the terms. Pacquioa is no longer in charge buddy. If Pacquioa wants to redeem himself he needs to accept if not then move on. Pacquioa for years had to be chased down by the Marquez team and get peanuts compared to Pacquiao. So I think its only fair that Paquioa do a little dancing for the Marquez team.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:45 pm 


te tumbo

it’s been obvious that Pacquiao* has NEVER looked forward to facing Marquez, which explains the 4-year intervals between matches v. a 30-something Marquez and his reluctance to sacrifice purse-parity (as Marquez frequently did) to make another bout happen. even if Pacquiao* demolishes Rios, it won’t put him on equal-footing with Marquez in terms of stature. only by defeating Marquez can he do so but it’s obvious that Manny’s* psyche has been severely traumatized. consequently, he’s fine with waiting to challenge a 44-year-old Marquez, which might finally result in his own desired outcome: finally catching a severely faded and diminished Marquez for a convincing win v. his Name if not his prime greatness. whether it be rejecting stricter testing v. Floyd or stalling to confirm additional bouts or rematches v. Marquez, Pacquiao’s* ultimate ring-legacy will be avoiding his primary P4P rivals.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:37 pm 


hecdog

Marquez is a JOKE! First he says he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao again because he settled things (he did with the Ped Punch). He spoke about all the money wouldn’t be worth the joy he has in beating Pacquiao. He’s one of those guys that losses at anything, and once he wins, he quits and believes he’s the better man. Marquez now all of a sudden say yeah, if Manny wants to fight in Mexico, which is my Country and I can get away with anything including Ped and Drug testing, and I can do what I want, sure I’ll fight him. Juan Manuel Marquez should be ashamed of himself. he’s plain scared and won’t even ponder fighting the Legendary Manny Pacquiao on neutral ground. Manny gave him 4 shots when he didn’t have to. I’m proud of Manny for telling both Marquez and Bradley to go elsewhere after he offered both of them more money to fight him, and they both ran and chose to fight each other. Manny best be respected because he is the draw against everyone in including Mayweather. Marquez needs to go away and know hi rank.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:32 pm 


Rem

This disappoints me to hear. Im a big Pac fan but when he doesn’t live up to my expectations i will say so . With Pac getting the edge on the cards in close fights the honorable thing to do would be to oblige Marquez. Speaking of honor that’s one small reason i don’t blame Pac right now after Marquez clearly juiced for their last fight. Just get testing so even though Heredia can beat current testthe blood sample will be on file so to speak for advances in testing and get it on in Mexico.

Posted June 24, 2013 4:24 pm 


JoeKidd

Pacquiao says he has a max of 3 fights left. Do you really want to see Marquez again? Even if Pacquiao finally knocks Marquez out, what does that prove? He’s 40 now and probably off the PEDs. I prefer to see Pacquiao against the young bucks! How about Mattheus? Garcia? Broner if he proves he’s not just a hype job. Watch Bradley dance circles around Marquez anyway.

Posted June 24, 2013 3:51 pm 



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