Adrian…. Brian Oldfield was the prototype shot putter… Mean.. lean.. huge..
And way ahead of anybody in his day in distance … from the speed and strength of his delivery.Posted June 27, 2013 9:23 pm
Damn… it was an open glove, off balance slap to the back of the head that ko’ed Price…
I can’t imagine Thompson being anything but overconfident in this rematch…Posted June 27, 2013 8:51 am
Rees Hoffa American shot put champion is not lazy because he has extra weight and you don’t get Olympic gold medal not giving it a 100 % and most of shot put champions are overweight and it dosent mean they are lazy and don’t train !Posted June 26, 2013 11:20 pm
It is other way around tark , usually shot put champions have extra weight and are not very muscular, and you are wrong when you say they need to be faster be aide most important attribute for them is to develop strength and EXPLOSIVITY …they can get faster and lose weight but doing that they will lose stregth by focusing on speed and train differently and if they lose stregth they lose explosivity even though they would look “leaner and get faster” they would definetly throw the putt shorter and that’s is not their goal it is throwing and having the best result in their event!Posted June 26, 2013 11:11 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Wow Tard, thanks for that piece of crap…Posted June 26, 2013 10:56 pm
I remember a famed lawyer who was blind… As he spoke to a jury he often paused thoughtfully, put one hand to his chin in deep thought, and stuck his other hand in his suit pocket by his hip or in his pants pocket… It seemed like a regular gesture anybody would make as they paused to gather their thoughts, but what he was actually doing was reading his notes which he had in his pockets.
When he told a reporter this, the reporter said, “So it’s actually an advantage for you to be blind?”
He laughed and said, “Don’t be crazy my friend.. I would be years ahead of my pace if I could see. It takes double the hours to prepare a case and I have to have a paid aid describe photos and other visual evidence to me again and again, and I have to memorize everything to the nth degree. You have no idea how difficult it is to be a blind lawyer. I would give my right arm to be sighted, and both legs too — but you do what you can with what you have.” … Sort of like fat people.Posted June 26, 2013 9:55 pm
Adrian…. It’s not an advantage for a shot putter to be fat.. It’s possible somebody won a gold medal or set a world record being fat.. So what???Brian Oldfield, for one, heaved the shot 75 feet back in the 1970′s, and he wasn’t fat..
If you’re leaner you move better and faster.. Fat slows you down.. Just a few fat facts for you.. Thompson lost his most important fights.. I laud him for scoring an upset, but that doesn’t make being fat unimportant.Posted June 26, 2013 9:32 pm
Nice video ! It shows how deceiving and underrated Thompsons skills and speed is …Posted June 26, 2013 8:36 pm
Tark .i see you like arguing over something that was not said ..
Good video Erlangdon…. Not only was Price’s left hand down at close quarters, he wasn’t paying any attention… As Thompson loaded to throw Price had plenty of time to see and avoid the right hook — but Price was intent on getting his own right hand punch in… Just after Thompson motored to his right, braced and ripped the shot, Price set to throw his right as Thompson’s punch was well on the way… Price throwing his own shot made the impact of Thompson’s punch that much harder.
It’s not a matter of a weak chin.. Any time a 260 pound professional boxer loads and throws, and catches you behind the ear — just as you make the punch that much harder by driving hard into the shot — that punch will probably knock you out.. That’s a vulnerable spot on anyone.
Price has to keep his eyes open and his brain in full alert mode… Sometimes when you score 15 easy wins in a row — some basic elements get away from you… That’s why it’s so bad to fight guys who are way below your level… You develop all kinds of bad habits.Posted June 26, 2013 8:30 pm
Anonymous has not a clue.Posted June 26, 2013 6:14 pm
That you tube clip is funny as fook, the last clip he had a grin on his face like he fell over pissed up. Any way Price very may win the rematch buy staying well out of range and boring us to teaars, but will defo be kissing canvas before long, he is too robotic and dont move. Got a stupid accent as well.Posted June 26, 2013 5:28 pm
Thompson is ready for the Retirement Home.Posted June 26, 2013 4:20 pm
Ernie is obsessed with TARK. Obviously.Posted June 26, 2013 3:48 pm
Tried to post a youtube clip that shows a glaring defensive weakness in Price’s game, but ESB won’t put it up.Posted June 26, 2013 1:26 pm
Testing…Posted June 26, 2013 1:24 pm
I see you read them all…Posted June 26, 2013 9:42 am
Zzzzz sooo sleepy zzzzzzzPosted June 26, 2013 9:07 am
Adrian…. That’s a total misconception.. When have you ever seen a world champion gymnast, swimmer, platform diver, pole vaulter, sprinter, figure skater, long jumper, tennis player, or MVP basketball player who was fat??? Inactive sports like bowling, billiards, and golf have had plenty of fat champions. That is total skill — not athletic ability.
Tiger Woods wouldn’t have been as successful if he was fat—but he would still win occasionally, just because he’s so skillful. The problem with being a heavyweight is you can be as fat as you want. Buster Mathis fought at 226 and 288 with different results.
Being fat is for losers—not for world champions. You’ve had fat world champions in boxing like Joe Frazier—but he was crushed by a lean and mean 217-pound Foreman. Foreman went from lean and mean to ALL fat ALL the time. He was overweight when he fought Ali and Young, because he started training camp at 270 and didn’t have the energy once he lost the weight. You have to stay on a program that takes years, and not take the weight off in 2 months. You have no energy if you do the Ricky Fatton thing.
George lost to Holyfield, Morrison, Stewart, and 9 rounds to Michael Moorer when he landed a lottery shot in the 10th. Fat Boy didn’t knock out ANY of his miserable 3rd rate challengers once he got that lucky shot on MM. There’s an element of luck in Boxing. Fat guys get lucky too. Foreman developed massive mental strength in his 2nd career. I’ll give him that.Posted June 26, 2013 8:58 am
Prime Thompson would lay waste to p1ss like Witherspoon and WalkerPosted June 26, 2013 8:57 am
Mogrel ,again I absolutely agree with you but my point was as of now Thompson as he is we can’t tell if he is trained better before he stepped into the ring just based on his fizik !
Yeah look I don`t expect someone like Arreola or Tua to hae a sixpack, but I think there is a difference between a guy who is training like a hungry challenger who thinks the heavyweight championship of the world is the pinnacle of world sports, who gets up each morning and trys to do whatever they can to take a step closer, and the guy who is a talented boxer who just wants to make a living.
Arreola and Thomspons aren`t champions, not because they are fat, but because of the life attitude they have that has allowed them to get so fat.Posted June 26, 2013 8:22 am
I think Price learned his lesson and will ko Thompson quite easily this time.Posted June 26, 2013 8:14 am
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzzPosted June 26, 2013 8:04 am
Tark> Thompson and areola have no much years in them left to look good !
Then don’t read my posts Ernie Enema Schnozzle/ AKA TimPosted June 26, 2013 7:30 am
Tark you bore me to sleepPosted June 26, 2013 7:20 am
How can Lennox teach him about leftys when he has admitted to not dealing with southpaws himself.Posted June 26, 2013 6:59 am
Adrian…. “boxers like areola and Thompson who always had fat as a haveyweight they can never lose that extra weight completely”
It’s a matter of will, nutritional expertise, and proper strength training… You do it over a number of years, it doesn’t happen overnight.. It’s the same as developing superior boxing skills.. It’s a matter of having an extremely knowledgeable coach who had a long amateur and pro career — and then it’s a matter of will and dedication to your craft.. Emmanuel Steward never fought as a pro and he was limited in things he could teach you.. But he could give you a masterful stance, jab, straight right, left hook, and he knew how to clinch like a bear trap.. He was never an effective infighter, and never had an effective left hook to the body.
It’s damned hard to teach what you’ve never mastered yourself… That’s what boxers forget when they scout around for a coach.Posted June 26, 2013 6:45 am
Looking at Price, you can see no flesh around his jaws, he always seem so thin around his jaws, even when he is not training, i just don`t think he can take a punch. He may beat old thompson, who never was really a puncher, but anytime he comes up against a young power puncher he will go if he is caught.Posted June 26, 2013 6:33 am
Anonymouse : There has always been ‘left overs’ getting a titleshot, in the 90´s you had Foreman and Holmes, and Foreman was even able to win the title. And when lennox fought Tyson he was still young but also a ‘left over’. At least we dont have a Seldon holding a title these days.Posted June 26, 2013 5:22 am
Price will have a high guard this time and a stiff piston jab. He will be cautious and take his time instead of rushing an early KO. Tony is the one who will get KOed this time. Price will avenge his lose and fight a text book perfect fight.Posted June 26, 2013 3:45 am
Mongriel- that’s true but when it comes to boxers like areola and Thompson who always had fat as a haveyweight they can never lose that extra weight completely and certenly they won’t be able to have the 6 packs showing at this age maybe they could but they would probably die in the ring due to extreme dieting they would have to make to achieve that and that is not their goal their goal and any other haveys is to feel comfortable , lose weight as much as posible for spoed but sustain the power and endurance with them in the proces because they fight in unlimited devision.
Adrian – I understand what you mean – you can be a tad podgy and still be a very good fighter.
You can actually be a bit of a doughball and have decent cardio if you have been doing the right exercise in the preceding 8-12 weeks.
But the fact is that if you have maintained a consistent degree of training that has a weight loss element, and a good diet, as a professional sportsman should then you don`t have rolls of fat.
And fat, other than as a slight shock absorber is useless. It is extra weight to carry around that doesn`t give you power.
It`s less of an issue at heavyweight since the guys aren`t such movers, and they don`t need to make weight, but to me in just differentiates the attitude of some of these guys.
If you think boxing is a job that you do 9 months of the year, and that winning the HW title would be cool, then you might be flabby.
If you think boxing is a lifestyle, if you are absolutely desperate, if every fibre of your being cries out for you to be heavyweight champion, because that is your raison d’etre, then there will not be a strip of fat on you.Posted June 26, 2013 1:56 am
Tark even against tillis Tyson was lucky to get a decisionPosted June 26, 2013 12:38 am
Lol I am amazed when I read some comments by some who are here for years commenting and I would think they would know a thing or two about boxing but man when I read come te like” I never saw Thompson on shape” or ” 14 years ago he would have been ranked even at top 15 ” these guys think that to be in shape everyone needs to have a “Tyson or Holyfield ” fizik …. Everyone is different ,in haveyweight devision you could have some who look chubby and no matter how much they trainthey can’t look like bodybuilders but it dosent mean they are not in good shape …looks are very deceiving in boxing …Thompson always looks sluggish but he is very very hard to beat and he hits hard ,I think I was one of the few here who predicted a win by ko for him against price,not that price is weak its just that Thompson is very dangeraous and akward boxers to fight against… I followed his carrier and his resume is full of wins against some very good haveyweights and in each of those fights he was a underdog … Steward was right when he was worried about wlad when he faced him ,but wlad is a totally different animal and can destroy opponents with one punch!Posted June 26, 2013 12:34 am
Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)
Price is definitely the HW King of Liverpool. Maybe someday he can move-up to become the HW King of London as well… LOL.Posted June 25, 2013 11:38 pm
Glass will shatter once more in this fightPosted June 25, 2013 11:38 pm
Do you just sit at your computer all day waiting to post your nonsense…. You are one of bout three people outside of Germany who actually rate the kiltschkos you clown …. Heavyweights were deffo better 20 years ago… End of storyPosted June 25, 2013 11:35 pm
Tark you’re a twatPosted June 25, 2013 11:32 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Price is unquestionably the best heavyweight in Liverpool for me.Posted June 25, 2013 9:39 pm
He’ll be lean alright, he’ll lean against a slab of roast beef and spare ribs right before eating it! I think Tony is too set in his ways, there wont be any improvements! Hopefully he’ll prove me wrong – anybody can change in that area….if the proper incentive is fostered. Only thing though, Tonys incentive, seems to be food.Posted June 25, 2013 8:27 pm
Chris AreolaPosted June 25, 2013 8:02 pm
Price has a weak chin, he was hurt by a smaller heavyweight in the amateurs. Dude that just beat Chris Arellano,Posted June 25, 2013 8:01 pm
Have never seen him in shapePosted June 25, 2013 6:41 pm
OK he was 262 lbs in their first fight but what’s he weigh today in camp? No hard info here.Posted June 25, 2013 5:41 pm
Ahh yes Bruce Seldon.. Lovely title defense against Mike Tyson, where he dived for the floor as fast as he could wihile barely getting touched.. How long ago was that??? About 20 years ago or so??? Wasn’t Mike being taken to the cleaners whenever he fought somebody big, tall, and skilled, like Douglas, Holyfield, and Lewis???
It doesn’t matter what title it was… If Herbie Hide, Michael Bentt, and Tommy Morrison are Heavyweight Champions the era sucks doorknobs compared to today. Those punching bags were terrible.Posted June 25, 2013 4:58 pm
Price didnt look good when he was forced for a very short time to fight on his back foot,and that could be a big problem.Lets see what Price learned in this camp,and ofcourse Price with that power could be a problem for anyone…cant wait to see this.Posted June 25, 2013 4:14 pm
Price wins this by KO. He won’t be rushing to do it early this time and will show a little more respect to Thompson.Posted June 25, 2013 3:35 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
I’ll never forget the great Herbie Hide, LMAO…Posted June 25, 2013 3:32 pm
Some funny posts here, people reading way too much into the first fight……Thompson will end up being brutally knocked out before the fifth round bell sounds.
lightening CAN strike twice.Posted June 25, 2013 3:27 pm
Tark, youre talking about the WBO, a fringe belt, and you know it! Today’s heavies are poorer in terms of depth; After all, guys like Rahman and Briggs, who were at their best a decade or so ago, were still getting shots recently; Not to mention other faded/shot fighters like Toney, Holyfield, Oquendo, Grant, McCline, Botha, Golota, Seldon, Williams etc stiill grabbing the odd headline or big fight…If tiodays division was so strong in depth, these shot leftovers of yesterdays division wouldve been cleared away long ago.Posted June 25, 2013 2:46 pm
Neil (Pomy)…, “Thompson is a mediocre contender and 15 years ago would not even be in the top 15 / 20.”
Don’t speak so unknowledgeably about the good ol days.
15 years ago Vitali won his 1st Heavyweight Championship by knocking out Herbie Hide out with a 2nd round jab.. The Heavyweight division was so tough back then that Hide won his Heavyweight Championship from a bum named Michael Bentt.. Bentt had only 10 wins over 3rd rate fighters, but nonetheless knocked out super punchable Tommy Morrison in the 1st round to take his title.
How did Morrison ever become Heavyweight Champion??? By outboxing slow as a pregnant elephant George Foreman, who was 43..
Don’t tell me how illustrious the Heavyweight Division was before the Klitschko Bros’ dominance.Posted June 25, 2013 2:00 pm
I must admit, I like Thompson. Nothin’ against Price, but Thompson impresses me.Posted June 25, 2013 1:11 pm
I think price will win this time. Thomo good but if price boxes and works the jab better. he will be ok. Dont think we will see him go for a second round KO this timePosted June 25, 2013 12:43 pm
Credit to Price for taking this fight. If he is the real thing, he should beat the 40 plus Thompson. The problem is, Tony comes to win. Price may win, but he’ll have to earn it. Despite the result last time, I think Price’s best chance is early. I think Thompson will win again, but this time late, perhaps, eight rounds.Posted June 25, 2013 12:36 pm
doughnut juice and fried chickenPosted June 25, 2013 11:22 am
Price will box cautiously, use the jab, and probably tie up often.
He will try to make it a boring fight.
The things Price has going for him are youth, hunger, and superior fitness.
He has to hope Thompson is fat again, out of shape, and just looking for another payday…Posted June 25, 2013 11:11 am
Price goes down again. Glass jaws cannot be fixed, only covered. Wlad however has steadily improved under steward first and we all see the dominant force he has become. So obviously not out of the question for price to restore some cred here. But I’m taking Thompson ko 4.Posted June 25, 2013 11:04 am
Unless Price’s suspect vulnerability is exposed again, Price should win the rematchPosted June 25, 2013 10:15 am
Oh rubbish ….. Thompson is decent but is well beatable. Nothing special at all …… if Price cant beat him this time then he might as well retire. Thompson is a mediocre contender and 15 years ago would not even be in the top 15 / 20.Posted June 25, 2013 10:14 am
I don’t know why Price fought Thompson the first time, and much less the second. Tony is world class, and will win even if he doesn’t KO him again. Price should have just moved on.Posted June 25, 2013 9:26 am
I’m afraid it’ll be a timid dance party with Price avoiding a powershots/KO and try to outpoint Thompson with timed pot shots. This can go either way… And KO can come in the process as well – both are heavy handed, we know Price but Thompson’s power is very underrated (see his KO ratio). Price knows this so this time he’ll be VERY careful and gun-shy. Hope I’m wrong…Posted June 25, 2013 8:20 am
As long as this rematch doesn’t become a stinker like Banks vs. Mitchell II…Posted June 25, 2013 7:46 am
Be careful Price.Posted June 25, 2013 7:22 am
Tony is tall and gets the right hook off really well… Wladimir got hit with a lot of tough right hooks from Thompson in their 1st fight before knocking Tony out in the 11th or 12th as I remember… Wladimir said it was the first time any challenger reached him well for many years.
Wladimir studied the 1st fight and didn’t get caught with any good right hooks in the 2nd fight… He’s an extremely diligent boxer.. Price also needs to make adjustments.. But in case he didn’t know, Thompson also throws a straight left — and like Corrie Sanders, he’s a very tall southpaw who can load and land a tricky left hande if he lands the right hook.. He can land with power almost like Sanders, and he can follow up and keep his feet under him.. He has a lot of experience … He has a fair KO record.Posted June 25, 2013 6:12 am
If Thompson wins again then Price is proven to be the over-hyped journeyman I always thought he was and all the nuthuggers will be scrambling for puerile excuses! Price is yet to prove anything!Posted June 25, 2013 6:12 am
IDk if Thompson can win again. He caught Price with a shot on the ear last time when Price got wild.
I think this time we’ll see a more tame Price, firing the jab from range and setting up the right hand instead of leading with it.
BUT…….Glass is glass and if hit proper again….it will shatter.Posted June 25, 2013 6:07 am
keep them honest. Tiger is not making it easy. Tiger does not want to stay at the gate.Posted June 25, 2013 5:54 am