Boxkai

its mean a lot, i like to see Ward come to Denmark or England 30.000 fans against him, a ref stop and warn him for holding or headbunt. Now he have to move from plan a to b and maybe c. Belive me it would be a totally different match. a top fit Kessler in copenhagen is a totally different figther. For every fighter in the world comfort offcourse means a lot. I love to see Ward push to his limetd I still think Ward would win, but in much more close fight. It would be a great fight, a fight to remember. As a boxing i love to see, thats my point. But Ward will never leave the USA, Unfortunately

Posted September 11, 2012 5:19 pm 

SREDMOND

Hey Right Pacquiao is going to badly beat up the best defensive fighter of this generation when he has not stopped ANYONE in the last what 4 or 5 fights and got outboxed for a large part of his bout with Marquez… I’m a HUGE Manny fan but PacMan has been slipping his deadliness has not been on display for quite awhile… I had predicted that he was going to stop Bradley but he did not even produce a KD…. Mayweather has fought sluggers, Manny has never fought a boxer like Floyd Mayweather the closest is Marquez and 3 fights later we are discussing ANOTHER bout to determine who is truly the better fighter… Mayweather has a 5 inch reach advantage, is taller, a better defender and overall boxer… This version of Manny Pacquiao has no more than a punchers chance, in fact I doubt he would do as well as Cotto did…. Second time I watched him againt Bradley the latter rounds PacMan was getting outboxed again for stretches though he should have clearly gotten the nod….

Posted September 11, 2012 9:39 am 

Gannicus

Josh, just because n one didn’t want to fight Dzinziruk doesn’t mean they feared him. I watched a few of his fights and he’s not all that to me. I just watched him in the ring against a guy with no where the experience he has and I thought he lost but the guy came in over weight but the dude out boxed him. I watched a show down between Mattysse and this African guy-no 1 wanted to fight the guy not because they were so scared but no 1 really knew him and there was no money in fighting him-anyway Mattysse fought him and beat him up b4 stopping him-it was a very good 1 way fight though. There was nothing specail about Dzinziruk at 160 for 1 fight or at 154 for a career-the guy is just not all that. Martinez gets to much props thats the thing-he is a top 10 P4P fighter not top 5 and damn sure not higher than Ward, Pac, Bradley, JMM, either K brother, Mayweather or Donaire-honestly Abner Mares should be higher on the list because he’s fought and defeated better guys than Martinez and thats not hating-the records and ranking speak for themselves

Posted September 11, 2012 8:56 am 

sgt p

what makes you think chad wants a rematch?

Posted September 11, 2012 7:50 am 

GIRRI

NO ONE WILL BEAT MAYWEATHER BECAUSE SINCE DAY 1 AS PAC LOOKING FOR OPPONENTS, HE IS STILL HIDING.

WHENEVER PAC IS LOOKING FOR OPPONENTS, FLOYD’S CAMP IS SILENT AND FLOYD HIMSELF IS NOWHERE TO FIND. CAN’T YOU NOTICE THAT?

HOW CAN YOU BEAT SOMEONE WHO IS ALWAYS HIDING, SELF RETIRED OR GOES ON VACATION WHENEVER THE BEST IS SEEKING A COMPETETIVE OPPONENT TO FACE HIM OFF INSIDE THE RING?

Posted September 11, 2012 1:29 am 

GIRRI

YOUR BRAIN IS TWISTED.

WHAT YOU TOLD HERE ABOUT DUCKINGS IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE TRUTH.

Posted September 11, 2012 1:22 am 

GIRRI

COTTO WAS SCHOOLED BY PAC AND HE LEARNED SOMETHING FROM IT THAT IS WHY FLOYD GOT A BUSTED NOSE AND A LIPS EVEN BIGGER CO’Z IT SWOLLEN COURTESY OF COTTO’S LEARNING EXPERIENCE FROM PAC.

WHAT IF IT WAS PAC HIMSELF WHO WENT TOE TO TOE WITH FLOYD?

NOT ONLY BUSTED NOSE AND SWOLLEN LIPS, PAC MIGHT ADD A DISPLACED ORBITAL SOCKET, TOO, INCLUDING SOME KNOCKDOWNS.

Posted September 11, 2012 12:56 am 

SREDMOND

Guys love to pretend that Mayweather is NOT and older fighter himself the dude is 35 years old and Miguel Cotto is a likely HOFER who had only lost to ATG Manny Pacquiao and a then rock hard Margarito who he came back and avenged himself against…Floyd Mayweather got a bloody nose because he moved up and exchanged against a boxer/puncher who has fought the BEST WW’s of this era Margo, Pacquiao, Clottey, Judah(when he was decent) Mayweather and a damn good version of Shane Mosley…. I think Ward is the future but he has done nothing to dethrone Floyd Mayweather at the top of the P4P list…. Ask any of these young guns who they are aiming to be and the name Floyd Mayweather rolls off their tongues….15 years and no one has beat his ass down, and he is undefeated thru 5 weight classes….

Posted September 10, 2012 5:29 pm 

BingM3

I placed AW over PBF right now because he’s not choosing opponents, no politics, fights the best prime vs prime….PBF’s last win was a washed up Cotto that gave him a bloodied nose and a cheap win vs Ortiz. Sorry boxing but there’s a new face in boxing.

Posted September 10, 2012 4:11 pm 

nicolas

Yes, I did forget about that after Dawson beat Hopkins he did call out Ward, and even said he could go down in weight. I would hope that fighters in the future might think twice about that, esspcially when we go into such a big marquee fight as this one was. I would be interested in a rematch between these two, but for that fight to be for the light heavyweight title, and to be fought on the East Coast. I just wonder how much different it would be. For Ward in the future, I just can’t see anyone below super middle weight or in that division having much of a chance against him, while I can envision Floyd Mayweather winning the world middle weight title, I can’t see him beating Ward at Super Middle weight. I would be interested in a rematch with Froch, but only if it is in England. Ward always seems to want some home advantage, and I think he gets that with the pay channels HBO and Showtime. Even if he took those risks I wish he would take, I think he still would win. I think he even could be cruiser weight champ if he wanted to be.

Posted September 10, 2012 3:06 pm 

Jvincy

Yeah Dirrell is a problem. He got robbed in the Froch fight. I am curious to see how he would handle Ward’s pressure. He def has the speed and power to slow Ward from advancing a bit.

Posted September 10, 2012 1:58 pm 

Jvincy

Apparently he’s bringing revenue to his home town. The yare filling the stands so what’s the problem. It’s not like he left much for the judges to decide on. He hasn’t received any gift decisions. Home advantage means nothing in boxing unless it’s a close fight. That hasn’t been the case.

Posted September 10, 2012 1:57 pm 

Happyboy

I had seen every De la Hoya fight except the last few rounds against Pacman, I switched off the telly as I just couldn’t watch him getting his ass handed to him while he just stood there like a punching bag. I couldn’t understand wtf was going on, he looked so weak, was slow, flat footed, confused and out of place. That was no Oscar that I was watching so I turned it off. As much as I’m against giving Pac his accolades for that fight I have no choice but to do so cause it was Oscar’s decision to agree to the T&C of the fight, the same applies to Bad Chad.

Posted September 10, 2012 12:48 pm 

Josh

Martinez also beat Serhiy Dzinziruk by KO. A guy at the time who no one wanted to face, oh and he beat Macklin who beat Sturm (despite the official verdict). I think people don’t give Martinez enough credit. I agree with you when you say Pacquaio should be ahead of Martinez, but if he beats Chavez Jr and Pacquaio fights Marquez again i think Martinez should be in the top 3.

Posted September 10, 2012 12:36 pm 

SREDMOND

There is NO impetus for Dawson and Ward to rematch the fight was a domination start to finish resulting in 3KD’s and a TKO where Dawson effectively “Quit” when quizzed by Smoger…..Boxing needs to move on and stop tinkering with very conclusive results this was not a challenger upsetting a champion both guys had standing in the sport and one dude got blown out badly…. Time for Ward to face the next guy same for Dawson who I suspect will be facing more aggression from future foes after getting abused by an assumed light hitter at 168…..

Posted September 10, 2012 11:17 am 

Gannicus

BoxingFan4life, honestly you really dn’t know what your talking about. MAB was the favorite in his 1st fight with Pac and he went on to have good wins after that fight. Morales won his 1st fight vs Pac and he’s still fighting and competing will against 2days good young fighters and JMM, even though he was older was very primed so what the hell are you talking about? Pacman has whooped almost everyone’s ass not named JMM and if he was s over hyped why didn’t Mayweather show us that in the ring? If they fight in December and Floyd wins that victory wont be what it could’ve been a few yrs ago but some of y’all will be all over the win anyway

Posted September 10, 2012 11:02 am 

Gannicus

As of late Ward has done more than everyone on the top 10 P4P-but no matter what Floyd does or who he fights he’ll stay number 1 untill he lose or if he lose. Pacman is the man to me-cause he wipes everyone out except JMM. Now I think everyone on the list has done more than Martinez-the K brothers should be ranked higher than him-honestly what has Martinez done outside of an out of shaped Pavlik and Williams-who has he defeated that everyone wants to say he’s number 3 on anyones P4P list. You guys just follow along with anything. Pacman is down below freaking Martinez-get the hell outta here-JMM-Bradley, Ward the K brothers-Cotto-all these guys should be ranked higher than Martinez-I understand y’all like him in all but I just don’t get it with this guy and his ranking

Posted September 10, 2012 10:56 am 

Gannicus

You guys kill me with this Sergio Martinez crap. Martinez hasn’t done anything compared to the other P4P fighters. Bradley has fought better and defeated all accept Pac IMO. Martinez is so over hyped is crazy. The dude has an out of shaped Rehab Pavlik and Williams on his record-who the hell else does he have? For cryn out loud Dawson resume is alot better than his I didn’t see his name on the P4P list. Barker and Macklin are decent fighters but their not A level guys-no way. I don care if he was robbed in the Cintron fight or not-Cintron was never a top fighter. Ward has Dawson, Miranda, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Green and Bika now to me that list is alot better than Pavlik, Williams, Barker and Macklin-come the hell on with this Martinez crap

Posted September 10, 2012 10:51 am 

Mayweather1

Rematch at 175

Posted September 10, 2012 10:50 am 

Anonymous

You guys are full of it-Pac was the underdog in the freaking 1st MAB fight so what do you mean he was past it? MAB had good wins after that fight. Morales wasn’t past it yet either cause he defeated Pac the 1st time and JMM was older but very primed so give me a break. Pac has done more than any active fighter period. Boxing is what have you done 4 me lately and if thats the case then Ward should be number 1 with Floyd and Pac following and Martinez should be lower than JMM IMO.

Posted September 10, 2012 10:43 am 

BoxingFan4life

he still waited to long to fight them. He is a cherry picker. I know the ESPN watchers like to place Floyd as a p4p but he is media hyped

Posted September 10, 2012 10:30 am 

BoxingFan4life

name even three great prime fighters Floyd has fought. He has a weak resume. He iis media hyped

Posted September 10, 2012 10:28 am 

BoxingFan4life

Mayweather won a few hand picked fights over the years never once ruling welterweight or jr middleweight…..he is media hyped. Ward is the number 1 p4p. I have Mayweather at number 6. the welterweight and jr middle weight divisions are a mess.

Posted September 10, 2012 10:21 am 

BoxingFan4life

these guys are both media hyped. they have not fought each other and was at the top of the welterweights for years…they were never the man in their division. both are top 30 or so but that is it.

Posted September 10, 2012 10:17 am 

BoxingFan4life

Those guys were already past their prime and Cotto was drained. Pacquiao is a media hyped fighter that cherry picked his way through easy bouts. Ward is the truth beating guyts like Abraham, Kessler, Froch, and Dawson and has also fought more solid contenders. There are not many of you Pactard extremes that understand boxing

Posted September 10, 2012 10:06 am 

SREDMOND

In fairness also to Manny Pacquiao that run he went on Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Oscar, Cotto ect included multiple HOF fighters and guys who were multi-division titlists….Froch, Kessler and Dawson were all young very good fighters and Champs of some ilk but none would rank with the accomplishments of the guys that Pacquiao mowed thru….. Ward has an incredible legacy he can carve out and he has done a ton for a guy with under 30 fights but seeing Pac Man fight at 130, 135 then bludgeon Oscar at 147 in 2008, and cement his ability to compete at 147 by stopping 29 year old Miguel Cotto was something special….. Respect has be paid to longevity even though I see the cracks appearing in Mannys armor these last couple of bouts….

Posted September 10, 2012 8:25 am 

Happyboy

Don’t know what to do with Carl Froch.

Posted September 10, 2012 3:14 am 

Happyboy

1. Mayweather, 2. Ward, 3. Sergio, 4. Marquez, 5. Pacquioa, 6. WKlitscho, 7. Donaire, 8. Bradley, 9. Cotto, 10. VKlitscho!

Posted September 10, 2012 3:07 am 

Happyboy

SRedmond& Hidalgo said it all. Well done S.O.G! Boxing needs more champions like you.:-) :shock:

Posted September 10, 2012 2:59 am 

Bobby joe

I keep reading Ward is a special talent. Ward is special but this fight come on guys Dawson looked weak. Watch Dawson at light heavy. Big difference in power and energy.

Posted September 10, 2012 2:27 am 

Boxkai

why he always box in Oakland then? whats your point?

Posted September 10, 2012 2:23 am 

UJelly?

Oh man, that’d be the most terrible snooze-fest in history (yep, worse than Klitschko-Ibragimov). I’m not saying the fight shouldn’t happen, but man… in terms of action, I’d rather watch a bunch of 90 year olds play 36 holes of golf.
Dirrell is the only fighter I see at SMW that stands a chance against Ward, and only because he can throw a single jab before running around the ring three times (i.e. his spoiling tactics might actually beat Ward’s spoiling tactics).
So yeah… it’s a fight that has to happen, but I’ll make sure to set my alarm for the 12th round. I reckon I’ll last about 3 rounds before I nod off.

Posted September 10, 2012 1:14 am 

nokolai

haha? who ducked who?

Posted September 10, 2012 12:36 am 

nokolai

you mean 43-0?

Posted September 10, 2012 12:35 am 

whiteman in d nial ali was truly the greatest

all you white boys hating on floyd 53-0 babyie all time number1

Posted September 10, 2012 12:18 am 

Frochy

Patrick. I think it’s because Ward actually hurt him. He didn’t put any fighter on the canvas in the whole of the super 6. Then suddenly a bigger man Dawson makes Wards left hooks look Tysonesque!! It don’t add up apart from Dawson being weight drained. But I still believe Ward beats Dawson by close decision at 175.

Posted September 9, 2012 11:48 pm 

Frochy

It would be nice to see him use his passport if he has one and come over to Europe where he’s out his comfort zone. Different weather, food and sometimes language. Away from the family, training in unknown gyms and then thrown into an hostile arena with 10,000, 20,000, 30,000 40,000 possibly 50,000 fans screaming for your blood. Its a bit different then aint it. You can’t be considered a great or in the HOF untill you’ve passes this test in my opinion.

Posted September 9, 2012 11:41 pm 

AD

Ward is a special talent, there is no doubt about that. I don`t particularly enjoy his style, and personality wise he is a piece of lettuce, but the guy is the boss in the ring. He may well go on to do some very special things, but at this point he has cleaned out one very good division. Beating Dawson at 175lbs doesn`t count as taking over the LHW’s (something we probably all feel Ward could do if he desired). Mayweather & Pacquaio have taken care of business in several divisions – and in terms of achievements before they started leaping through divisions Mayweather clearing out Hernandez, Castillo and Corrales, and Pac beating Morales, Barrera and JMM for me are every bit as impressive as Ward beating Kessler, Froch and Dawson. Realistically to match their achievements he is going to need to win titles up to cruiserweight.
In terms of pure current ability, then yeah put him up at no 2, but I`d take some of the history into account when placing p4p’s.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:58 pm 

royjoneslastfight

Andre Ward vs Andre Dirrell = Mayweather vs Pacquiao Part 2 ~ GREATEST “SWITCH HITTER” BOXING MATCH IN THE HISTIRY OF BOXING !!!!!!!! I’d pay $100 to see this Fight !!!

Posted September 9, 2012 9:10 pm 

The Prince

Sredmond is right about Floyd. Andre Ward would even agree and admit he got a lot of his boxing tactics from watching Mayweather fights. SOG is a big Mayweather fan. Also, Floyd did fight top competition on his way up to Welterweight and didn’t lose. And the top guys he DID fight at welterweight, ducked him first. Mosley ducked him 5 times before demanding a fight, after his wife took him to the cleaners in court. Oscar ducked Floyd, until Floyd agreed to fight on HIS terms. Cotto ducked Floyd, then got caught up by losing to a cheater.

You haters have no logic in your arguments.

Posted September 9, 2012 8:43 pm 

JVincy

Floyd lives in Vegas. What’s your point?

Posted September 9, 2012 7:45 pm 

JVincy

It’s time to pass the torch. NOt that Mayweather has fallen off, it’s just that Ward is on an unprecedented tear thanks to the tournament.

Posted September 9, 2012 7:37 pm 

B Red

Sergio is going to give Chavez jr a beat down, ya dig :twisted:

Posted September 9, 2012 7:02 pm 

B Red

I would also like to add that Sergio is going to Chavez Jr a beat down, ya dig :twisted:

Posted September 9, 2012 6:59 pm 

B Red

Te Tumbo, if i were to replace Bradley it would be Vitali. The problem with replacing Vitali with Bradley, is the fact that i saw his fight yesterday and hes on a major decline……I see an upside for Bradley who exposed the limited Pac. I have never been a fan of Wlad and just think Vitali has always been the greater fighter.

Posted September 9, 2012 6:46 pm 

1-2

I agree with most of your comments nicolas except Dawson called out Ward. Nothing was made about Ward moving up in weight at the interview after he beat Hopkins. As for Leonard Hagler. Hagler wanted Leonards money fight for a while and Leonard due to retna injury could never make the fight until he was conveniently ready and asked for the moon and unfortunately Hagler agreed for the $ and I still think Hagler won the fight. Ward who accepted the challenge wanted to defend his titles at his weight and where else would they fight Conneticut? Dawson doesnt sell out there. Maybe Vegas but until now Ward wasnt a big name. Either way he made Chad quit, and I was at the weigh in and Dawson didnt look sickly like you see some fighters who suck a lot of weight.

Posted September 9, 2012 6:29 pm 

The Great Black Dope

Snapping at his heels? Ward past him.

Posted September 9, 2012 6:18 pm 

Boxkai

Great fight by Ward, no doubt, but again homeground in boxing gives up to 40 %! So all talk about P4P isnt fair yet when he only box in his own bedroom! Let Ward beat Froch in Nottingham or Kessler in Denmark then you can talk P4P. And stop say he is the champ so he dosent have to go anywhere….Kessler came to Oakland as WBC and WBA champ! Yes a mistake but if that match was make i Denmark maybe nobody would no Ward today! we never know…..Come on S.O.G. time to show some balls!

Posted September 9, 2012 5:56 pm 

1-2

Yea I guess he’s unknown outside the Bay Area except he won the Olympic Gold medal in Athens, beat World champs from England,Germany and Denmark. I guess hes known in Europe too except maybe Luxemburg which is probably where your from.

Posted September 9, 2012 5:52 pm 

tarmy

Go away troll.

Posted September 9, 2012 5:31 pm 

te tumbo

B RED, replace Bradley with either or both Klitschkos sharing the same spot (like their heavyweight reign) and that’s my list, as well. it consists of the most thoroughly-tested champions in the sport today.

Posted September 9, 2012 5:30 pm 

B Red

Floyd, Ward, Bradley, Marquez and Sergio are my top 5

Posted September 9, 2012 5:18 pm 

Patrick2

Very good writings Sredmond.

Posted September 9, 2012 4:59 pm 

SREDMOND

I’m stoked on Ward as much as the next guy but the truth is that we have found out that Dawson was NEVER going to be more than a very good boxer…. Taking nothing away he never really dominated ANY of the old guys he fought or stopped them Johnson, Tarver and Hopkins all went the distance… Chad lacks the mentality to be as good as his talent would suggest, Ward made this beyond clear when I thought about it the last couple of noteworthy YOUNG fighters that Dawson faced he lost to…. AGAIN this is an amazing win for Ward but he is NOT on Floyds level yet with under 30 fights.. Mayweather went from 130-154 whipping asses all along the way he is STILL the Gold Standard during this era….

Posted September 9, 2012 4:51 pm 

The Mad Scientist

That’s what happens sometimes when this guys try to fights in weight divisions they don’t belong in..they find themselves training mostly just to make the weight and nothing else..anyways, congrats to Andre Ward on a great win and my new #1 P4P best boxer in the world on my list..

Posted September 9, 2012 4:49 pm 

SREDMOND

Lami, you are clearly a novice fan wakeup and accept reality…. Floyd Mayweather has been a Champion for 15 years, no one has beat him in 5 weight classes… I am BIG on Andre Ward but the reality is that he has a while to go before he is in the pantheon that Floyd occupies… Hate him or not Mayweather is a bonafide ATG, and living legend one of the greatest boxers to EVER put on a pair of gloves and when Andre is deeper in his career sporting those credentials I will be the first to applaud him… If Floyd is over then where is the asswhipping that has been laid on him??? “Floyd Mayweather is limited to one style” when did you start watching boxing?? 2010???? Mayweather has slugged, boxed, potshotted and become actually more offensive over his last several bouts…. Through is career there has been NOTHING that Floyd cannot do, I respect Andre’s win but his KO record is paltry compared to Mayweather don’t lose your bearings man…..Dawson, Ward, Broner and all the new guys have borrowed elements of Mayweathers game note the hard jabs to the body Ward throws…. Mayweather patent pending

Posted September 9, 2012 4:44 pm 

nicolas

Ward is no question a great fighter. If he retired today I would say he would get into the hall of fame on his first try, ahead of such greats as WInky Wright and Shane Mosley. I just find it regretable that he would not show his greatness better if he had decided to fight Dawson at the light heavyweight division, and not make Dawson come down in weight. For me, Dawson was put out as a sacraficial lamb to show Ward’s greatness. The fact that Ward was able to stop Dawson, as he had not stopped his previous five opponents, let alone deck them, brings to question on how well Dawson was ready for this fight, in coming down at such a weight. During Leonards second boxing career after defeating Hagler, he was only able to stop Donny Lalonde, (who did deck Leonard) for what was then by the shameful WBC for the new super middleweight title, and Lalonde’s light heavy weight title, but at 168. Also lets not forget Da Lahoya’s performance when he came down to fight Manny Pacquiao, or the many criticisms leveled against Pacquiao for making other boxers fight at catch weights. This same thing was done even over 100 years ago with Joe Gans having to fight at a certain weight against Batling Nelson, with Nelson having a weight advantage. In that case though, Gans won in a disqualification in some 45 rounds or so. I think it could be argued that after what was witnessed, no fighter should be allowed to go down in weight and win a world title, esspecially when it is the number one fighter at that weight division, considering the circus that is Jorge Arce. To show that he deserved a title shot at the lower weight with Ward, perhaps a fight with Froch, or the two lesser fighters than Froch Abraham and Bute would have been of interest, and given at least a radar or what to expect. Ward is no question a great fighter, and perhaps he would have beaten Dawson for the light heavy weight title. I don’t know if it is Andre Ward’s self proclamation, but I understand that he is also called ‘Son of God’. Does this mean that Jesus is the good son?

Posted September 9, 2012 3:52 pm 

The Kingslayer

And Donire should be in the top 5.

Posted September 9, 2012 3:47 pm 

The Kingslayer

He’s already overtaken both Floyd and Pac. Ward has been fighting the better comp and he’s been making it look easy.

Posted September 9, 2012 3:46 pm 

Jasper

Ward IMO has now taken over the second spot on the rankings. PBF has a long way to slide to give up that spot, but it is clear who the number one fighter will be when PBF does call it a day. as for the rest of the top ten . . . No Donaire? Mares? Moreno? RIgo? Gamboa?

Posted September 9, 2012 3:45 pm 

Patrick2

Yep, sad but true — Floyd has for the last decade + fooled every boxing writer into believing he’s PfP material — probably how he earned the “Money” moniker — by paying them all off to get his name added to their lists. Thanks for clearing that up and bringing it to everyone’s attention.

Posted September 9, 2012 3:20 pm 

The Best!

Ward should be well ahead of Mayweather as Pound for pound he fights and beats the best while they are in there prime. Cherry picker MIA Mayweather avoided the best in his prime for years.

Posted September 9, 2012 3:16 pm 

Fight Aficionado

The PFP rankings are interesting right now. The top 4 are tightening with Floyd, Pac, Sergio and Andre all in solid position. I wouldn’t bump Ward above Sergio just yet but he’s moving up.

Posted September 9, 2012 3:13 pm 

lami

bloody hell sredmond,get off floyd will you he doesnt like boys get over him.Andre ward is a much better boxer than mayweather.he can do pretty much everything while floyd is very limited to one style.its not even a close comparison.mayweather is not as good as is made out.Ward is far better.

Posted September 9, 2012 2:57 pm 

hake

Hey everybody Peej wants you all to know that he picked Andre to win. Peej wants respect from all of you. So when you see him post “say oh you are so brillant picking Andre to win” Peej needs that from all of you.

Posted September 9, 2012 2:55 pm 

Knud

The fight was in Oakland. Let him stay there and be unknown. He is boring cheater and people outside usa doesn’t care about him.

Posted September 9, 2012 2:53 pm 

Patrick2

You know what… get off Bradley. He has been the ONLY opponent whose face looked exactly the same post-fight as pre-fight, so all that damage the HBO crew said Pac was doing, wasn’t doing. Check out boxing.com’s 27 June video about the fight. They slowed the fight down and you can clearly see that Pac missed a LOT and Bradley countered very well.

Posted September 9, 2012 2:28 pm 

Eddie

I still have Manny at Number 1; I don’t care what the scorecards said, Manny won that fight agaonst Bradley

Posted September 9, 2012 2:19 pm 

choky

i have been extremly impressed by ward – when u think about all the very good guys he has already quite easily beaten (kessler-abraham-froch – and now dawson) u have to ackowledge that this guy is something special
he is beating the best in their prime and seems to even improve
i see him to be soon the uncontested p4p king

Posted September 9, 2012 2:09 pm 

lami

timothy bradley what a laugh good one that you really are tickling my ribs

Posted September 9, 2012 1:58 pm 

SREDMOND

Wards a bad boy and I totally see him as a STRONG #3 but after 15 years Floyd is still undefeated and he has been successful in 5 weight classes beat numerous current, former champs and just deposed a 3 division champion and likely future HOF fighter in Miguel Cotto… He is the best fighter of a generation, Ward is the future a successor who has an opportunity to create a tremendous legacy provided he keeps winning and he does not run out of opponents (real issue at this point)….It was scary the way he suddenly looked so much better and mentally stronger than Chad Dawson who irritates me with his passive nature but I thought had more than enough to make this a good fight…. Skys the limit for Ward….

Posted September 9, 2012 1:17 pm 

Boxtradamus

One thing Ward has on Mayweather is that he just totally dismantled a more talented Southpaw than Floyd ever did. Congrats!!

Posted September 9, 2012 1:00 pm 

Anonymous

Congrats Andre! No doubt p4p top3-4 now. Bay Area is real proud of how you handle yourself in and out if the ring.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:55 pm 

Patrick2

“Obviously weight-drained” because he lost? Or because he lost to Ward? You guys can stop with that BS weight-drained argument. Dawson lost because Ward was the better boxer. Disagree? Than try to make the argument that if they had fought at 175 the outcome would have been different than Ward winning/having his hand raised at the end. Good luck, because those who know boxing know it would not have made a difference. Ward just makes adjustments better and quicker than Dawson does, period.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:53 pm 

Patrick2

But if you have the better skills, like Ward always has going into a fight, why would you slug it out and take unneeded punishment? Boxing is about hitting, without being hit, or at least as little as possible — and that’s what Ward does, and has done. Props to him!

Posted September 9, 2012 12:44 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Yet Dawson agreed to fight at 168 and made the weight. Not Ward’s problem. I think Ward manhandles Dawson at any weight because he’s just too skilled and too tough. That said, we also have yet another example of what I’ve been saying for years: Don’t screw around with your weight to chase big fights. Fight at your best weight and take on the top guys who want to step up.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:40 pm 

Boxtradamus

SKILLS is more important than HEIGHT and REACH just as I predicted!!! I am the GREATEST FIght Prophet ever born!!!!!!

Posted September 9, 2012 12:39 pm 

Boxtradamus

I predicted all of this YEARS ago on THIS site and I was CORRECT. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!

Posted September 9, 2012 12:37 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Great performance from Ward. See what happens when he brings the heat? Do that every time out and stop screwing around. His stock rose considerably last night.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:35 pm 

te tumbo

there was never a time during the Mayweather-era that Cotto or Shane wouldn’t have been recognized as ripe “cherries” after a younger Mayweather was through with them. however, you’re right about the quality of competition. Ward has actually swept and unified a talent-laden division and gone one step further by meeting the next champion up at the boundary between their respective weight-classes to deliver an additional and perhaps his most convincing ass-kicking. Ward’s creds-of-greatness are beyond dispute but skill v. skill? reflex v. reflex? instinct v. instinct? ring-smart v. ring-smart? i still give the edge to Mayweather pending final tally and tabulation.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:24 pm 

varnish

As a person who picked Dawson, I have to give Ward props – he was amazing! His defense is so subtle and under-rated and his offensive style is unique – very effective. I really can’t think of a super-middle or even light-heavy who could test him right now. He is the man. But Mathysse is awful fun to watch.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:20 pm 

Anonymous

what should ward do next? Is there anyone left at SMW – Dirrell et al surely wouldn’t give him much trouble and he would beat Froch, Kessler etc again.

Posted September 9, 2012 12:18 pm 

cooner

I don’t know what it is but I still can’t warm up to Ward. There is something about his style I just can’t stand. I have no doubt he is a skilled athlete & probably a nice person. I just don’t like to watch him fight. I did like Larry Merchants quip during the fight – “he would rather watch a fight of the year rather than be in one”. If you compare the Ward-Dawson to Matthysse-Ajose fights, which do you want to see again?

Posted September 9, 2012 11:58 am 

kenneth lloyd

I have Andre Ward at number one because Andre Ward has fought a lot more stiffer competition than Mayweather. MAYWEATHER CHERRY PICKS HIS OPPONENTS AFTER THEY GET OLD OR BECOMES SHOT. COTTO AND SHANE Mosley is an classic example of this

Posted September 9, 2012 11:45 am 

smoke

It’s a shame that true fighters like GGG won’t be in that list….cause everyone from welter to smw are peeing their pants when they hear his name and no promotor will let their cash cow fight vs GGG

Posted September 9, 2012 11:37 am 

Turd Spotter

courtesy of te tumbo . . . :twisted:

Posted September 9, 2012 11:15 am 

Turd Spotter

this was the equivalent of Mayweather’s demolition of Corralles. Ward is active #2 P4P and #1 Heir-Apparent to Mayweather. ultimately, Ward may become even greater. he’s already That complete but can’t help continue improving with each dominant and additional win. this dude may have just topped his recent accomplishment of sweeping his own division clean of All rivals(?!). at the moment, Ward is untouchable and getting better . . . “S.O.G!-S.O.G!-S.O.G!”

Posted September 9, 2012 11:14 am 

spiderico

After last night, Ward is #1 PFP right now. Ward is in his prime and Mayweather is past his but still deserves #2 ranking. Hard to believe the compete domination over Dawson. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing.

Posted September 9, 2012 11:06 am 

KOrnerman

what an asslick article, Dawson was obviously weight drained FFS.

Posted September 9, 2012 11:05 am 

Hans

No doubt he is a great fighter, if not the best, but I for one, would like to see him leave his home for a fight.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:55 am 

ChuckBronson

fantastic performance from Ward,his timing,reflexes and accuracy were phenomenal,only problem is that i cant see any other fighters giving him a stern challenge…bute?..no chance…dirrell?…coward.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:31 am 

prideofvirginiabeach

He’s at least number 4 p4p. Another beatdown like that, and I will admit he his the best supermiddleweight of all time.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:30 am 

pittsburgh eddy

wow what a great fight!!!!

Posted September 9, 2012 10:19 am 

The Prince

Ward definitely belongs in the top 5, if not the top 3 P4P right out. He should have been in the top 3 after winning the super six.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:18 am 

FEARS

I agree with the top 3, but Donaire, Mares should be on there somewhere with Broner and Rigondeaux on the way fast!

Posted September 9, 2012 10:16 am 

prof konje

Ward was great last night. He put on an excellent performance. Hopefully no one will say it had anything to do with Dawson’s weight. From what I saw last night, and from what I’ve been seeing of Ward in the super-six tournament, he would have beaten Dawson at any weight. Yes, Ward is that good.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:12 am 

Patrick2

Hopefully, now, Ward’s critics will concede that Andre is one hell of a boxer, and not a bad puncher.

Posted September 9, 2012 10:09 am 

el chapo

Nonito Donaire not in the top 5 or even 10? I don’t think so.

Posted September 9, 2012 9:58 am 

Hidalgo

Ward did put on a spectacular show, Mr. Slater. That was some very fine boxing. He is deceptively quick, has great reflexes, is an excellent counterpuncher, has great ring IQ, and he has a great corner. All around great performance by Andre Ward.

Posted September 9, 2012 9:50 am