Whatever PPV sales over 800,000 is because of Saul el Canelo Alvarez.Posted July 20, 2013 7:27 pm
Boxing is the KING PILLAR of combat sports.. Always will be..
MMA won’t die… Too many guys love it… Boxing had fits and starts when it started in 16th Century England… The London Prize Rules existed for 100′s of years in the bare knuckle era… The Queensberry Rules have only existed for about 150 years… Boxing has had it’s ups and down during 6 generations when it was out-lawed in most states at times … Fighters like Jack Johnson were thrown in jail for boxing and fined 3000 dollars.. It was a shake-down.. Boxing had it’s ups and downs for the first 100 years of Queensberry.. Now it’s prospering worldwide.. MMA will go through the same kind of trauma before it gets it’s sea legs.Posted July 20, 2013 1:35 pm
If Boxing was doing the same business as MMA is right now it would be getting hammered by its critics.Posted July 20, 2013 12:52 pm
amateur expr dont matter differnt game spoon had 7 am fights. if your cuban it matters cus great coachin most ams get lousy coachinPosted July 20, 2013 12:02 pm
Some guys haven’t too bad without much amateur experience. Benny Leonard, Joey Giardello, Dwight Qawi , Sean O’Grady never had any amateur fights. Rocky Marciano(12), Jeff Chandler(2), Hasim Rahman(10),Rocky Graziano and Anthony Mundine(each 4). Canelo had 20, Chavez jr.(2), Guillermo Jones(24)
You can’t claim a sport is the fastest growing when you have nothing you can point to say it is the fastest growing. I don’t have to name another sport when the main revenue of that sport is in decline. I named several sports that aren’t in decline so they are automatically growing faster. Sorry put PPV sales are the best measure since those are their marquee events and those are in decline. The WWE has mostly a younger fan base as well yet their PPV sales stay pretty steady. Parents buy things for their kids and 20 year olds have nothing better to spend their money on. I don’t buy your theory that only older people buy PPV events, I see nothing to support that claim.
Just because a sport is well established doesn’t mean it can’t still be growing. Soccer has a major market it can grow in and its called the USA. A country that has the most money to throw at things and the youth of the USA are now playing soccer more and more. The NFL is still trying to grow its product and its revenue increase every year, its only a matter of time before a team lands in London.
Sports like Football, Soccer, Basketball and Hockey don’t put their marquee events on PPV so of course you don’t judge them on that, you judge them on revenue or what someone will pay to advertise on their sport. The advertising for MMA doesn’t surpass what they can make on PPV so they don’t put their fights there. I know they have their handful of fights on FOX but again not their marquee ones. Trust me if the NFL could make more money on PPV for the Super Bowl they would do it in a minute but people pay millions for 30 seconds of advertising.
This has nothing to do with who watches what sport. Again I have nothing against MMA and I hope it does well. I can’t watch more than 5 mins of soccer but I won’t deny the facts of what is happening with the sport. MMA isn’t going anywhere, they have just peaked and I don’t see them the rising sport they where just a few years ago. You can’t keep repeating what was being said and was true in the 2000s when it no longer holds true.Posted July 20, 2013 2:53 am
Amateur Boxing isn’t on the decline in the US… It’s just getting 3 times the funding per capita in England, Ukraine, and other places — even China is ramping up what they spend on developing amateur boxers.. They’re gearing up their programs while America’s amateur boxing programs are standing still…
One thing a lot of countries realize.. You athletes kick asses in the boxing ring, you get a lot of prestige compared to other sports.. Cuba realized this a long time ago, and they fund amateur boxing like crazy.
Guys like Guillermo Rigondeaux are the result.Posted July 20, 2013 2:26 am
Basketball is huge and growing all over the world… Everybody plays it… Every school has a team before they even have a baseball, football, soccer, swimming, or track team… Professional basketball in played on 5 continents… So it’s big.. It’s huge.
Boxing is big.. It’s been growing globally like crazy.. It actually could be the fastest growing sport.. I know revenues are increasing and more fights are being televised with Bryant Jennings coming up.
I don’t believe revenues for MMA are on the decline… There are more fighters… more gyms… more trainers teaching MMA… more venues for fights than ever before… How can it be in decline???
It needs a booster shot though… It’s probably not the fastest growing.Posted July 20, 2013 2:16 am
MMA is not the fastest growing sport. It was at one point then hit a decline. Boxing can’t be the fastest growing sport because it has been here forever. It grows and declines. We will see how much it grows on Sept 14th. Heck if you seen what the viewers has been for this year for boxing it has shown that boxing is not on a decline and it is still way above MMA.Posted July 20, 2013 12:21 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Terror Tim & Others:
If MMA is no longer the fastest growing sport in the world, then what “sport” is??? “Competitive eating,” lacrosse, or auto racing? It’s certainly not boxing, which has been on a steady decline for decades — especially in the U.S at the amateur level.
You cannot say that MMA is no longer the fastest growing sport on a global scale based on PPV sales — especially just PPV sales in the U.S. You must also consider other important factors such as: How many millions of fans watch UFC on Fox, FX, Fuel TV and Facebook, but never buy PPV? MMA fans tend to be a younger demographic. So are they more likely to go watch fights at sports bars with a group of friends, compared to hardcore boxing fans? How many MMA schools/gyms are now in the U.S. compared to boxing gyms?
The UFC, though definitely the #1 Leader with the most elite fighters, is just one MMA promotional company. MMA is much bigger than just the UFC. Bellator MMA is also coming on strong and they even have a new show on Spike called “Fight Master” that’s similar to “The Ultimate Fighter” hit TV series. I also used to watch Pride, WEC and Strikeforce, but are all now out of business.
This fight is taking place on Sept. 14th. Mexican Independence Day (Dia de la Independencia Mexicana) is on Sept. 16th, but most of us Mexican-Americans don’t really celebrate it anyway. Most Mexican-Americans celebrate Cinco de Mayo. In other words, this fight would sell better if it were scheduled for May 5th. That”s one major reason why FMJ vs. ODLH broke all records. Real talk.Posted July 19, 2013 11:16 pm
“I am bringing my girlfriend and it will be the first time for either one of us in Vegas.” – Pugfan, enjoy Marquez-Bradley. It’ll be a nice intro to Vegas. I’ve been going 2-3 times a year since 2005. Always a great time. Aside from fights the best part is the poker and pool parties.Posted July 19, 2013 6:58 pm
ok for the MMA comparisons lets put it like this. business is about money!!! this will break the PPV record no doubt, Floyd will break in at about $50 mil at least Canelo $10 mil and garcia and matayyse at least $2 mill each with the winner getting at shot at floyd worth around $10 mil. showtime will make $50 mil and the mgm grand will be choc block with whales for the fight and if the house always win will do fine, oscar won’t have to worry about getting ladders in his tights as GBP will pull in at least $20 mil. Anderson silva will make around $2 mil for his rematch with chris weidman which will probably be the biggest fight in MMA history – mma might have a huge quanitity of fighters but not quality. Floyd will make more in this fight than all the ufc “fighters” not employees in the last 10 years combined!!!!!! this isnt a biased opinion its fact!!!!!!Posted July 19, 2013 6:43 pm
I was reading the comments about boxing and it’s competition and had to comment. First of all…. i prefer Boxing, but only cos I know it better and get to see it more easily. But…. I love MMA and all combat sports. The UFC will continue to grow and as a business model it is fantastic. The deeply engrained rivalries of promoters halts boxing from following suit with regards to the ufc monopolisation model. Second of all…to say there isnt a big talent pool in mma is silly. Perhaps not the same numbers training in mma than boxing but there are many people competing. The sport will exhibit more champion losses because there are many more variables for things to go wrong. It’s not just punching!!!Posted July 19, 2013 6:34 pm
Tark, I have nothing against MMA but the days of saying it is the fastest growing sport are over. Their PPV sales are evidence of this. I don’t think they have had a event approach a million buys since 2008 when Brock as was fighting. What they call a big event is considered mediocre by either Floyd or Pac. It is a great sport that takes loads of skills. I am not the biggest fan but I have all the restpect in the world for them. I wasn’t trying to go to a MMA vs boxing debate, both have their places and can thrive. My point was more to that boxing can’t start scheduling itself around what the UFC does. Boxing has its sponsors and arenas that have scheduling demands, bringing in what the UFC would just be one more obstacle for a fight to clear to get made.Posted July 19, 2013 6:23 pm
terror tim…, I’m a big fan of both MMA and Boxing..
Mike Tyson and many other former boxers and active boxers like MMA… Boxing is an art, a craft, and a science. The worldwide participation rate, storied professional history, Olympic history, and global fan base of Boxing is phenominal. MMA will never surplant Boxing in a thousand years. Boxing is here to stay … but MMA is far from a mature sport. Many young athletes are curious about combining so many fighting arts into one “anything goes” full contact contest. Hershel Walker, and many other athletes love it.
MMA IS closer to basic unarmed combat… Tiny gloves that mimic bare knuckled street action… Knees, elbows, feet, fists, wrestling, holding and striking, and submission holds.. There’s one HELL of a lot more to learn and master if you want to be “best in the world.”
And there’s a lot more caution.. You can’t hide behind those tiny MMA gloves and let your opponent throw … one punch can put you out a lot easier.Posted July 19, 2013 5:47 pm
Nice! Pac has a great resume and so does Floyd. They are two different people with different styles that makes for a different result. Hatton was KOd sooner against Pac. Marquez couldn’t make the fight with Floyd close let alone a draw or an early KO victory. Great resumes for both fighters that brings different skills and talent to the ring.Posted July 19, 2013 4:25 pm
Pugfan, have fun and be prepared to be awed by the flow of money in Vegas…Posted July 19, 2013 4:24 pm
I hope so. I hope it is a great fight. I am bringing my girlfriend and it will be the first time for either one of us in Vegas.Posted July 19, 2013 4:22 pm
Paquiao’s resume stands tall compared with Floyd’s or any body’s for that matter. they have many common opponents.Posted July 19, 2013 4:20 pm
Nice! Have fun pugfanPosted July 19, 2013 4:18 pm
I will not be buying his ppv this time however because I have to save my money for my trip to Vegas for Marquez vs Bradley which I have already purchased tickets for.Posted July 19, 2013 4:17 pm
Pac dominated Oscar true. Larry Holmes also dominated Ali.Posted July 19, 2013 4:17 pm
I do not hate Floyd. I also do not watch his fights just to see if somebody will beat him. I actually have a great appreciation for his superior boxing skills. I am picking Floyd over Canelo by a wide margin. as far as Floyd vs. Oscar I am just calling it like I see it. now Paquiao really did dominate Oscar!Posted July 19, 2013 4:14 pm
pugfan. The hate you have for Floyd is another reason to buy the fight. Hate and love are two powerful emotions. Floyd plays on that for sales. So regardless, you will watch the fight. Either to see him lose or see him win. There’s no kinda like or kinda dislike with Floyd. Its love and hate which equals $$$$$Posted July 19, 2013 4:06 pm
Both Floyd and Canelo brings fans. The fight itself is interesting for purists. The undersard is shaping up to make for one hell of a night of boxing. PPV numbers should be big enough to break records.Posted July 19, 2013 4:04 pm
they have to make up for the poor ppv sales from Mayweather’s last bout. TARK , Floyd dominated De La Hoya to what? a split decision that many fans felt could have gone either way. I would not call that a dominating performance by any stretch of the imagination.Posted July 19, 2013 4:03 pm
Pac vs Floyd has no relavance. Only speak of facts and true current issues. What ifs means nothing.Posted July 19, 2013 4:01 pm
Mayweather and Pac fight did not happen because of GREED and EGOS. Peroid. Mayweather would have taken two rounds to time Pacs darting in and out style then start smashing him (Pac) with counter shots all night. JMM set the blue print.Posted July 19, 2013 2:27 pm
I’m guessing the addition of Matthysse-Garcia to the undercard will result in 100K fans like me who were on the shelf deciding to buy the PPV. If so that ads 7.5 million to the PPV revenues, but you know both fighters’ combined paydays will only be $1.5 million at the most. So you’re talking about an extra $6M in net profits. So it’s a smart move in terms of money but I think that co-main will make the main event seem like a slow motion crawl. Mathysse-Garcia steals the show.Posted July 19, 2013 1:25 pm
If they haven’t realized that yet they never willPosted July 19, 2013 1:03 pm
UFC is Dana white… re rakes in all the money….. only a matter of time when their fighters realize that. It’s borderline WWF. You are buying a show not a fight.Posted July 19, 2013 12:36 pm
Pac vs Floyd would break no records. That time has passed.Posted July 19, 2013 12:31 pm
The MMA top fighter was KTFO, the week before last while clowning around and have effortly trying to dodge punches. It was a crap fight for crap spor IMO. But more power to those who like that type of thing.Posted July 19, 2013 12:26 pm
“There is a reason why the UFC doesn’t do cards on the same day as boxing events”. the one time I recall that they did, the main event was over in like 30 seconds(?!). another anticlimactic showdown between hard-charging and glass-jawed opponents. i was in to MMA in the very beginning with Gracie, it then degenerated into wild and vicious brawls, and that 30-second main event was their last chance to gain the respect or loyalty of this potential “crossover” fan. the talent pool is simply not there resulting in some serious mismatches and inexplicable KOs. obvious physical conditioning aside, i’ve witnessed equal-quality brawls in alleys, on playgrounds, in parking lots, and public parks between local roughnecks. why would i pay to watch the same or inferior skills-set between weight-lifters? not this fight-fan.Posted July 19, 2013 12:10 pm
Smart phones aren’t so smart. I meant a bigger piece of the pie.Posted July 19, 2013 12:05 pm
Boxio, nice try. Canelo can’t have apiece of the pie until he takes Mayweather’s number one spot. Guess what even if he wins this fight he’ll be no higher than number 2. And even that may be too high, cause there’s a lot of middle weights that would love a crack at Canelo….Posted July 19, 2013 12:02 pm
Canelo us a bigger risk to Mayweather than Pacquiao. So much for the Mayweather is afraid of Pacquiao theory. By the way if Canelo was a Top Rank fighter this fight wouldn’t be taking place either. The difference is Maywaether can work with GBP, and no one can work with Arum, unless their under his thumb.Posted July 19, 2013 11:58 am
But Canelo should be getting the bigger piece of the pie because he’s bringing in the crowds not Floyd.Posted July 19, 2013 11:55 am
Squared-Circle, I agree that the UFC does a fantastic job promoting their product but they are no longer the fastest growing sport in the world. They have peaked and their PPV sales have not been what they where just a few years ago. Their growth will now be like any other niche sport trying to get fans outside of the other major sports. Also understand that this date is just like the the Cinco de Mayo weekend fights in which it is big holiday weekend for our Mexican neighbors and historically a big fight night for boxing. Tecate and Corona kick in big bucks to have the fights on these nights and they are not going to move it because the UFC has a PPV night scheduled as well. Why should boxing move their dates for the UFC? Boxing does more business, have the UFC move. The UFC has so many PPV shows it would be almost impossible to schedule around them. Boxing already has enough logistic to worry about when scheduling a fight such as dates arenas are open and other major boxing events. I have no problem with MMA but you can’t expect Golden Boy to worry about what they are doing.Posted July 19, 2013 11:52 am
Pacquiao vs Mayweather would break ALL RECORDS, BUT Mayweather is Chicken Chit. He says Pacquiao is done, but he is afraid to fight him, when he knows the fight would break ALL RECORDS. Like I said Chicken Chit.Posted July 19, 2013 11:45 am
“Of course a PESSIMIST doesn’t think its going to break records. ” But other than the entities who are making money on this deal, who really cares? No one.Posted July 19, 2013 11:22 am
“Remember Mayweather-Guerrero was a good fight, but a dissapoinment in PPV buys. ” What was good about it, Edgar Guevara?Posted July 19, 2013 11:20 am
If they would add trout vs Lara to the undercard than wow thatd be a great night of boxing!Posted July 19, 2013 9:41 am
They can’t announce fake PPV numbers. That would cost them more money in the long run. The IRS would be like you sold this much and that’s what you need to pay taxes on. The promoters could but Showtime can’t.Posted July 19, 2013 8:39 am
HEY IT’S ME ERNIE….WELCOME BACK BROTHER…..NOW YOU AND TARK FACE TIME AND KISS…..LOL
GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK ERNIEPosted July 19, 2013 8:14 am
Either that or as someone posted drop the pricePosted July 19, 2013 3:59 am
To be fair they need to put 2 quality undercards for that price, I’m a hard core boxing fan but like other hard core boxing fans I have mostly casual boxing fan friends, trying to convince them to split 70 bucks knowing what they know about mayweathers non crowd pleasing style is tough, particularly since not many of them have heard of Garcia or matthyse. You want to sell this fight help the hard core fans by loading the undercard.Posted July 19, 2013 3:55 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
U.M.C.T.U.S. cheers for CaneloPosted July 19, 2013 3:42 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
That simply means that the UFC promoters are smarter than boxing promoters in almost every way. And because I closely follow both sports, I know there are still plenty of nights when big bouts are going on at the exact same time as big UFC events. I know because I watch them both at the same time — using both a large computer monitor and TV.
Seems like the boxing promoters haven’t yet figured out that they’re losing significant revenue whenever they schedule major bouts on the same night as UFC events. If they have figured it out…they’ve been doing very little to change their poor planning and scheduling.
UFC is now the fastest growing sport in the entire world! The major reason is because they’ve had OUTSTANDING promoters, managers and marketing/PR pros for over 15 years. If we were to create a chart or graph based on stats, it would show the decline of boxing being simultaneously correlated with the explosion of UFC.
The promoters and mangers in UFC fully understand that there are MILLIONS of cross-over fans — just like me. The boxing promoters and managers are still arrogant and behave like they have a complete monopoly on all combat sports. And for some reason still seem to think boxing fans don’t care to follow MMA. They will learn, sooner or later, it will to be the hard way.Posted July 19, 2013 3:27 am
There is a reason why the UFC doesn’t do cards on the same day as boxing events. Because the lose major money. There is a reason why there fighters don’t get paid nearly as much as boxers. And like I’ve said fights used to be 29.99. Those days are gone.Posted July 19, 2013 2:57 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
This is what Golden Boy, Schaefer, Mayweather Promotions, the other promoters, and the “Big Wig” network executives at Showtime should be asking themselves:
1) How many millions of people are willing to spend $20-30 at their local movie theaters or sports bars to see these fights?
2) How many of those fans will be going to the theater or sports bar along with one or two other people?
3) How many of these small groups of 1-3 individuals would stay home and watch the fights on their HD TVs if we lower the price from $69.99 to $39.99? (It’s nice to have your own food, drinks and “smoke” in the comfort and privacy of your own home.)
4) Will we sell 2-4 times as many PPVs if we significantly lower the price to $39.99?
5) Will everybody in the business ultimately make more money if we lower the PPV price enough to encourage fans to stay home and give us ALL their money — instead of giving most of their money to sports bars and theaters (who’ll take a big cut of the ticket sales).
Answer: Everyone in the business would make much more money if they lowered the PPV to $39.99. They would be taking a HUGE amount of business away from the thousands of sports bars and theaters, and directly pocketing that money by sending PPV sales soaring through the roof — to unprecedented heights.
It’s too bad that these big “decision makers” would never take advice from a nobody like me. They’ll only listen to other “insiders” in the boxing world, and those same people have been slowly destroying the sport for decades. The UFC now makes pro boxing look like an ancient, outdated circus side-show. Sad, but true.Posted July 19, 2013 2:51 am
One of the better cards in the last 10 lousy years but doesn’t match what was typical in the 70′s thru 90′s.
19 million at the gate ?………..Posted July 19, 2013 2:47 am
That’s nice Hecdog. But the sports bar had to purchase it and the pay more for PPVs than home customers do. So your actually contributing too itPosted July 19, 2013 2:34 am
Of course a PESSIMIST doesn’t think its going to break records. IF they DID then they wouldn’t be a PESSIMIST….Regardless of what any pessimist thinks, the FACT is that it has already broken the all time live gate record pulling IN $19.5 Million. And the reports are that its breaking foreign TV rights records TOO.Posted July 19, 2013 2:27 am
I don’t think it’s going to break records, that’ Schaeffer talking it up. They’re not getting any of my money. The sports bar down the street has it for free.Posted July 19, 2013 2:04 am
Yes that is why I said it was a bad example. Your art example though is actually a perfect one. But if and in my opinion when this fight breaks a record it will prove the price isn’t such a big deal to millions of people. Like I said I don’t like the price but they are constantly gonna go up. Just like groceries, gas, entertainment. As long as people are willing to pay and history has shown that they are then prices will continue to increase.Posted July 19, 2013 1:34 am
Ernie Enema Drinker.. Go stick your head in a pile of cow manure and die.Posted July 19, 2013 1:00 am
Housing is another example. Market goes up and down.
Your house may be worth 400K this year. Maybe within the next few years its lower. And years later its back up.
Do you know how much this piece of art is worth?
It’s a bad example because Gas is close to mandatory at the moment until people either find a better way to protest and/or come up with a solution to gas.
You don’t need boxing at all. It’s just one aspect of entertainment.
Your die-hard fan keeps boxing alive. They keep the heart beating just enough to allow fighters to grow and eventually flourish if those fighters are good enough skill wise and marketing wise to draw influence to those fans that are occasionally viewers.
Look at fighters: At one point, their tickets were low. They gain popularity and their tickets raise. They lose popularity and they have to lower their ticket prices. Same with other forms of entertainment from music, to film, to art, etc.Posted July 19, 2013 12:43 am
I understand what you are saying. I don’t agree with the high prices myself. But they are going to keep coming. Look at gas prices, I know that is a bad example because we all need gas to get around. But do you recall when folks where trying to have a day where nobody bought gas to try and stick it to the gas companies? Well all that does is make the gas companies charge more to make up for the loss revenue. So what I am saying is there are plenty of hard core fans out there who are going to buy every PPV regardless. So they will raise the price and those people who always purchase them will make up for the last revenue of the so called folks not purchasing. But I agree with everybody who hates the high prices. But folks they are here to stay. I think they would of made more money putting it on NBC or CBS. Like the superbowl and sold a bunch of adds like football. They would of made a killen.Posted July 19, 2013 12:37 am
And when people don’t buy them, then what?
You can keep raising your prices but the higher they go the smaller the group you are selling. It’s the same throughout business. Be it Clothing, Jewelry, Housing, Art, etc.
In the end, it all depends on which makes the most money: Having higher prices and selling to a niche/rich crowd or selling to the masses. And that goes by the product.
Even top name designers have branched off their main name to make up for the loss of not being able to sell their high priced clothing.
Examples: Armani has Armani Exchange.
Ralph Rucci, a brilliant designer who sells to an exclusive class has now had to branch off to make up for any expenses he needs to keep his team alive and well.
Boxing is able to get away with what they are because they are still generating money because people are still buying. Stop buying and eventually those prices will drop.
This fight with Floyd vs. Canelo is more than likely happening now because of the lost PPV money from the Floyd vs. R.G. fight.
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Great point by Guevara! Lower the PPV to $39.99 – $49.99 and it will be the biggest selling fight in boxing history — especially if they stack the card with Trout vs. Lara.
But no….the endless GREED of these MFers gets in the way of making wise business decisions almost every single time.
Lower the price to $39.99 and they would sell 4 times as many PPVs. You do the math! (I have an MBA with emphasis in marketing, but would’ve said the exact same thing back in high school.)
This ain’t rocket science. But it’s absolutely AMAZING how the never ending GREED of the promoters and network executives is actually preventing them from making MORE $$$.Posted July 19, 2013 12:23 am
PPV prices are gonna go up regardless on if people buy them or not. If people don’t buy them they will go higher to make up for what the people didn’t buy. When I was younger PPV’s used to be 29.95. You don’t get than anymore unless it is an independent PPV.Posted July 18, 2013 11:54 pm
I’m hopping in the car and going to Vegas for this one. Its going to be FUN.Posted July 18, 2013 11:48 pm
Top that off with Trout/Lara and it’s about the best card I’ve seen in decades.Posted July 18, 2013 11:24 pm
At the price from $65.00 to $70.00, I really doubt breaking any records. People are tired of making athletes rich, getting broke after. They will sell the fight, not outrageously. I doubt it, if they change the price. Remember Mayweather-Guerrero was a good fight, but a dissapoinment in PPV buys. They need to be right about the amount. $45.00 will bring at least 4m buys for sure.Posted July 18, 2013 11:19 pm
Agreed, Mayweather/Canelo alone will bring in huge numbers. Adding Matthysse/Garcia will bring in Puerto Ricans and Argentinians. Wow, how can it fail?Posted July 18, 2013 11:19 pm
I agree Arum is a thiefPosted July 18, 2013 11:06 pm
They’ve already SHATTERED the ALL time gate receipt record set by Floyd vs Oscar and the PPV record is SOON to follow.Posted July 18, 2013 10:50 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Shut it Tark…Posted July 18, 2013 10:42 pm
Peej, Top Rank is lacking in the undercards so that Arum can pocket more money by paying the fighters less.Posted July 18, 2013 10:41 pm
This will do one Hell of a lot better than that… Unless Great Depression III hits.Posted July 18, 2013 10:14 pm
GONZO OF BETHLEHEM
This wont break no records. Mayweather cant sell anything the public knows hes a boring fighter and Canelo is not a household name like Hoya. It will do 1.4 million, a million shy of the record. Yes Gonzo knows it all.Posted July 18, 2013 10:08 pm
Adrien Broner vs Marcos Maidana is another fight to add…
Both are in-your-face KO punchers with about 80% KO ratios.. Maidana already made Victor Ortiz quit as he was getting ready to ice him… So putting a quitter like Ortiz on the card would be a stupid idea..
Broner-Maidana would give you 2 killer slugfests… The main event won’t be a slugfest… It will be a boxing match like Mayweather vs De La Hoya..
But Mayweather won’t dominate Canelo like he dominated Oscar.. This will be really close … and Saul has a real shot at an upset.Posted July 18, 2013 9:53 pm
Yep. And to be honest, Golden Boy normally puts on a good undercard. Top Rank is always lacking in undercard bouts.Posted July 18, 2013 9:47 pm
It isn’t just Mayweather/Canelo. It’s also Garcia/Matthysse. The combination of the two fights should be guaranteed to break PPV records and set the bar for a long time to come.Posted July 18, 2013 9:44 pm
I think so alsoPosted July 18, 2013 9:41 pm
Well Schaefer is as CORRECT as I AM on that.Posted July 18, 2013 9:39 pm