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littlekongzi@yahoo.de

go to yahoo sports you idiot and type in cotto vs pacquiao catchweight. There is no word to describe your stupidity!

Posted August 11, 2013 5:35 am 


Rich

Obviously you can be a lot more stupid…..Its no-marks like you who the first thing they trot out is it’s on the net .they do not say where you can read it or where they read it…You clowns make this all up but can supply no proof.the same as you offer up no proof as regards the weight Cotto lost ,but conveniently change to some made up story that is not relevant to the weight loss…..You are a complete loser and know nothing about boxing…Bring on something to back up what you stated instead of talking a lot of kiddy’s nonsense……WHERE WAS IT STATED .

Posted August 3, 2013 2:14 pm 


prince

rich, you piece of crap, I know it as Cotto has stated that! It can be read on the Internet. How stupid can someone be?

Posted August 3, 2013 12:24 pm 


Rich

You don’t even know,do you, you ar..hole

Posted August 3, 2013 10:17 am 


prince

look it up on the internet you idiot! Cotto was forced into the catchweight bout back in 2009 and is stating that they tried to impose that again for a potential rematch which is why he refused and eventually left TR.

Posted August 3, 2013 4:02 am 


Rich

So what was the weight Cotto had to give up that made him soooo weight drained…or are you still working on that one….

Posted August 3, 2013 2:34 am 


prince

I should cut yours, retard

Posted August 2, 2013 12:48 pm 


Rich

O’K….BUT ONLY IF YOU CUT YOUR THROAT…..

Posted August 2, 2013 9:22 am 


prince

Rich, just shut up!

Posted August 2, 2013 2:59 am 


prince

rich you will never get, but keep living in your fantasy world. idiot!

Posted August 1, 2013 9:13 am 


Rich

You contradict yourself by saying that Pacq demanded catch weights in the case of ODH, then later say it was not entirely Pacqs fault…..Pacq did what he had to do in this fight ……….Your overblown sense of importance manifests itself any time someone on here disagrees with your smarmy ill informed posts

Posted August 1, 2013 7:28 am 


Rich

I think you are making that statement up,but I will gladly apologise if you would care to prove its source….So how much weight did Cotto have to give up that would drastically impede him in his fight with Pacq….Must have been a considerable amount

Posted July 31, 2013 12:18 pm 


prince

rich, at least you admit that you are a retard! Well done! Also well done on noting my typo!
As far as Cotto is concerned, he recently said he was not ok with the weight and he did not want a second fight with Pac because Team Pac wanted a catchweigh again!

Posted July 31, 2013 9:52 am 


Rich

Well no need to get overheated,if you post on a public site you must expect to get questioned on your over statements,especially when you keep giving it large on how you know so much about boxing it makes people wonder when it took you so long to grasp that ODH offered the fight to Pacq…….Also your reference to Cotto..weight drained, it beggars belief when even he said he felt fine and the weight was OK .By the way this retard thinks you mean contradicting and not contracting.I see you have now added others to your list

Posted July 31, 2013 8:11 am 


Rich

123……What Ped would that be,can you name it…..I don’t think so….

Posted July 28, 2013 1:29 pm 


Rich

Prince….The point is you keep contradicting yourself and never have and never will get the point…How polite of you to agree with Tumbo and how humble to inform us “if you know boxing and have boxed yourself “you will know about weight draining…..Perhaps you could give us further insight into your boxing knowledge by naming your attributes….So nice to have someone who posts on here with skill of boxing….Perhaps you can give your take on the other two boxers who were over the hill and weight drained.

Posted July 28, 2013 10:40 am 


123=VI

Roach says he has a great plan for Pacquiao to beat Rios…..yeah its call back to PED.

Posted July 27, 2013 6:14 pm 


DEXTER MORGAN

The almighty fight profit Teturbas? To bad your bent up aggression only proves 1 thing… Dude you dont get laid… Anybody that spews that much hate can’t get laid… Your just another internet punk, who think he gods gift to posting… Just stfu already lmao

Posted July 27, 2013 5:25 pm 


Coopal

Manny’s darting in and out only works on certain style boxers not for Marquez. In Pac vs Marquez 4 the plan was to step on the side after you dart into Marquez to avoid getting countered. If you watch Pac-Marq 4 after Pac hurt Marquez in that round he did the opposite of what Freddie told him to do. Instead of stepping on the side he went in straight like he used to in Pac v Marq 1. Guess what all you have to do is stick your jab out coming in then boom. Instead Marquez threw a perfect punch. People can talk about Marquez on Peds w/ superhuman strength but at the end of the day put your boxing hats on and see how pretty that was.

Posted July 27, 2013 12:38 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, i can continue to posts about Boxing because the scenarios i’ve been asserting have all materialized as predicted: Marquez KTFO of Pacquiao*; Rican boxing is Kaput!; and Floyd Mayweather is undisputed #1 P4P. Give It Up, Chillon(?!). Whose your Papi?

Posted July 27, 2013 10:50 am 


te tumbo

DIXTER, it doesn’t take a “Mexican” to favor the chances of a talented brawler like Rios or admire the determination of Marquez. only a hardcore fight-fan. now go back to crying in your pillow over the demise of Rican boxing . . . “Can-tahhh y no Llores”.

Posted July 27, 2013 10:47 am 


te tumbo

at best, Pacquiao’s* footwork is quick and unconventional but it’s purely intuitive. Manny* has a talent for darting in and out of ranges including his own, but that becomes reckless and predictable v. a smart ring-veteran like Marquez. it may not be easy but avoid Pacquiao’s* Left and he’s there to be Hit Hard and Often. Rios can count on hit. the rest is his mission to execute.

Posted July 27, 2013 10:44 am 


Rem

But it has been only…..

Posted July 27, 2013 7:50 am 


Mbuyiseli

Tark it was a BIG DEAL losing to Marquez in their third fight and got screwed by the judges. Note that people were complaining that JMM’s last challenge at 147lbs wasn’t that great against Floyd. You see everything was stacked against Marquez. The last fight I giggled my ass off. When Pacquaio back was twitching and his was wife was in tears. Coz the Mexicans didn’t even appreciate JMM until recently, whereas Barrera & Morales had legion of fans. Both of them don’t have JMM’s ring IQ. Not diminishing their accomplishments at all. The purse split was also atrocious.

Posted July 27, 2013 7:49 am 


Adrian

Peej=author…PAC haters and Floyd puppies!! Why is it that you love so much to write about anti PAC articles ?bro you look desperate ..

Posted July 27, 2013 5:19 am 


Rem

Tark is right i can’t deny that some of what you guys are saying is true It has been only Marquez that has been able to at times dominate the range in a fight against Pac. You guys describe more of a fighter like Rios (no defense, no footwork, 1 dimensional ). He has some serious boxer traits (speed, movement,timing). His movement is very sharp that makes is faints sick and that in turn makes him not as predictable as he’s being described. Even though he has fundamental lapses those sharp movements comes from his feet. Pac has outdanced everyone else.

Posted July 27, 2013 2:53 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Enough already with the false inside info Tard. btw, find out what the odds are and be sure to give the favorite 8 or 9 to 5 odds as the fight nears. same ol same ol…

Posted July 27, 2013 1:27 am 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* is a solid and dangerous fighter but he’s easy to read. Marquez figured him out by the 4th round of their first fight. avoid Pacquiao’s* left and counter. preferably in combinations to the head and body. IMO, Marquez consistently did Just that to edge-out Pacquiao* on the scorecards in their first three fights. Pacquiao’s* presumably superior footwork didn’t prevent him from being Busted-Up but Good by Marquez in I and II. IV settled their drawn-out rivalry once and for all. anyway, a prime Camacho rarely if ever took that kind of punishment. too fast; too slick; too crafty; too quick; too balanced; and never off-balance like Pacquiao* frequently is during his reckless, lunging, and predictable attempts to land his Left. Pacquiao* only sees openings and routinely disregards lapses in his own defense. this will continue to be the “great plan for Pacquiao* to beat Rios”. Brandon can count on it. all he has to do is lie in the weeds, wait for Pacquiao* to dart into his crosshairs, and “BooM!”, test Pacquiao’s* chin and jaw hard and often. i’m confident that a bigger and stronger Rios will be prepared to “Get Crackin” from the opening bell.

Posted July 27, 2013 12:39 am 


PEEJ

Floyd vs Pac will never happen. Yeah he out landed him because he hurt him right away. Plus a come forward fighter is built for Pac because of the way he bounces and moves side to side. He is just a quicker bouncer that bounces all over the place. His foot work is not that great. He runs in and his punches get there before his feet do. That is bad foot work

Posted July 27, 2013 12:13 am 


TARK

But it’s funny… When Foreman smashed Frazier like he was a 4-round chump fighter people said.. “Boy.. Frazier was stupid to be fighting Foreman.. There goes Ali Frazier II.. All that money out the window.”

Not the way it happens.

Posted July 26, 2013 11:56 pm 


TARK

NOPE… Pacquiao is a better boxer than you guys appreciate.. He outlanded Ricky Hatton 35 to 8 in the first round.. Marquez is an ATG fighter.. One of the best fighters who ever lived.. Losing to JMM isn’t too big a deal…

It WOULD be a big deal if Pac lost to Rios.

Floyd wouldn’t like it either… There goes the May-Pac fight again… Right out the window never to be retrieved.

Posted July 26, 2013 11:51 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah there is only 1 plan of attack for Pac and that is it. He has never had any other plan but to just throw punches in bunches and bounce back and forth

Posted July 26, 2013 11:25 pm 


Ray Ray

Throw wild hard shots in bunches and get hit heaps, that’s Mannys plan…

Posted July 26, 2013 11:12 pm 


TARK

It doesn’t take a genius to strategize how Pac should fight a walk-in brawler like Rios.. He’ll fight him like he fought Hatton..

It’ll be a much tougher fight because Rios is a great fighter. Basically avoid Rios’s swings and charges… jab the daylights out of him… right hook the Hell out of him… and set him up for the killer left hander…

It’s not like Rios and his team will look for anything different out of Pac. They’re going to try and force a fire fight… get Pac hurt bad… and knock him TFO again … They figure his chin is dinged a bit.

Posted July 26, 2013 10:57 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Punkcquiao is done, Pactards say he will return and destroy his opponents but this is only hope and not a fact

Posted July 26, 2013 10:30 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is not an all around fighter. He comes forward throwing a lot of punches. He has no defense. He takes too many punches. No way is he the greatest fighter. He is a great fighter but not the greatest. Having lost 2 out of his last 3 is not something that would happen to the greatest fighter. Having problems with boxers and counter punchers is not something the greatest fighter would have issues with. That is why he stayed clear of boxers. That’s why he lost to Morales. That’s why he ducked Guzman. The greatest fighter ever would not look for a way out when adversity hits like it did against Augapito Sanchez

Posted July 26, 2013 10:01 pm 


Rem

Camacho was good but the beatdown he took from Chavez showed his limits. People won’t agree with me but i’ll take Cotto over him imo Cotto does the same thing to him at jww. Te tumbo everything you said about Chavez vs Taylor is true but the travesty was Taylor being robbed of a well earned victory over a great fighter. And Pacs footwork is the key to everything he’s done in boxing wins over Berrera, Morales, Marquez (i know you will dispute that) and Cotto all great technicians. His ability to move his hands and feet together with great coordination is another way to measure great footwork.

Posted July 26, 2013 9:08 pm 


Coopal

If Cotto was weight drained how come he lasted for 12 rounds? Was there a big discrepancy on his weigh in and fight night weight? He lost because he decided to trade with a puncher. He was boxing beautifully until he made the same mistake that everyone else made which is to trade w/ a puncher.

Posted July 26, 2013 9:03 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao beat his opposition in dramatic and exciting fashion. Forget the excuse of the weight drain or any other excuses that were used. Talk to Cotto, Hatton, Barrera, Morales, Larios, Bradley, (Ped Man) Marquez, De La Hoya and the rest of his opposition. Manny Pacquiao’s speed, feints, athleticism and fighting spirit is unmatched by any current or past boxing champion. Manny didn’t just beat guys, he demolished them. He is without question the most sensational, aggressive offensive fighting machine in boxing history. The great Julio Cesar Chavez IMO would have been knocked out and obliterated had both fought in their prime. Meldrick Taylor had his way in his fight vs Chavez until the final seconds. Manny Pacquiao was faster, stronger, more athletic than Taylor ever was with all due respect to Meldrick Taylor. Chavez would have been stopped within 5 rounds in the same manner as Ricky Hatton. Manny is the better all around fighter. Mr. Ped Puncher Marquez was taking a beating until the Ped Punch landed lucky or not. The truth is that you will always question a fighter that was on the down slide of his career until he hires a well known Ped Supplier to the US Olympic athletes, and gives a video statement that he can mask any drug especially if he knows what the commission tests for months ahead. Sorry, CLEAN fighters don’t reverse the aging process like that. Manny Pacquiao is without question the best there ever was, and everyone is waiting to see his return. Manny will dominate a true warrior in Brandon Rios. Manny haters are already criticizing Brandon Rios. The guy has lost once in a brutal war. He can fight, take a punch and is one of the best out there. Haters should stop trying to devalue Manny Pacquiao’s accomplishments. He will win and once again go after all those that have fear him starting with Mayweather, Bradley and the Ped Punching Marquez. Manny isn’t going anywhere. Trust me, he’ll win another title.

Posted July 26, 2013 8:25 pm 


prince

boxeo, my point is that some of Pac biggest wins came against over the hill or weight drained fighters. It was not entirely Pacs fault that DLH agreed to fight him at 147 and DLH is known to have made some mistakes in his career and Pac did what he had to do in this fight! The point though is that those wins are nowhere near as good as people believe they are. If you know boxing and have fought yourself you know how much it takes out of you to make weight.
It is like saying Tevor Berbick is better than Ali, cause he beat a sick and completely washed up Ali.

Posted July 26, 2013 7:41 pm 


Boxe0

Prince: No you know why? Because his last 2 fights were fought at 135 and 130. Now why would someone even agree to fight a natural 154 if he just fought 135? It was even a stretch for him to fight at 147 let alone 154. Thats why the Vegas odds were so big at the week of the fight. That’s why he hired a HOF trainer and that’s why he built himself a statue at Staples. He thought he could beat a midget. I think you are confusing yourself with your timelines.

Posted July 26, 2013 7:32 pm 


prince

boxeo, do you think Team Pacquiao would have taken fight at 154? The answer is no, and the next question is why do you think they would not have taken it?

Posted July 26, 2013 7:25 pm 


Boxe0

Prince did u forget that Oscar’s strategy was to come in lighter? He came in under weight 3 weeks before the fight.. It was a tactical mistake in his part. He didn’t strugle making weight. He fought a couple of rounds he would have been tired by rnd 3 if he did. He quit in that fight but the issue was he was following Pacquiao all night he doesn’t know how to cut off the ring. He was exposed.

Posted July 26, 2013 7:22 pm 


hecubus

I’m a big fan of Cotto and pac-man and the extra pound wouldn’t have made a difference. Cotto himself said at the time that pacquiao was the best fighter he’d ever been in the ring with. and then with Margarito, he destroyed a guy that had every physical size advantage over a much smaller fighter. Who cares if it was at 152 instead of 154…..it was still a great performance by Pacquiao.

Posted July 26, 2013 7:21 pm 


prince

sure, but do you think Pacquiao would have fought DLH or Margo at 154? Or Cotto at full 147?

Posted July 26, 2013 6:46 pm 


PEEJ

I won’t complain about the catchweghts because it was a way for those fights to get made. I am just not a fan of a smaller fighter calling out a bigger fighter and then telling the bigger fighter that it has to happen at this weight. If that is the case then don’t call out the bigger fighter. Just stick to the fighters in your division. If the bigger fighter is calling out a smaller fighter then I can see where a catchweight can be agreed appon.

Posted July 26, 2013 6:41 pm 


prince

peej and te tumbo, great posts, I agree with everything. Team Pacquiao only accepted the DLH fight because he agreed to fight at 147 and they knew he would be too weak. The same goes for other fights such as Margo, Cotto, and Mosley. They waited for the right moment or imposed a catchweight in order to have an advantage!

Posted July 26, 2013 6:09 pm 


prince

yes, hecdog, of course, Manny Pacquiao vs Brandon Rios is bigger than Ali vs Frazier, Tyson v Holyfield, Lewsis v Tyson, DLH v Mayweather etc, I think it is even bigger than the big bang isnt it. You are clearly on drugs on from another planet. Lets ask the forum, who thinks Pac vs Rios is bigger than any of the aforementioned events?

Posted July 26, 2013 6:06 pm 


Exiled Yank

Roach always has a great plan and it always ends with MP ko’ing his opponent…

Posted July 26, 2013 5:26 pm 


Boxe0

People have forgotten what the Vegas odds were the week entering the Dela Hoya fight.

Posted July 26, 2013 4:46 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* has quick feet but there is no “grace’ or “rhythm” to his spastic and reckless footwork. moreover, it’s purely offensive and routinely puts Pacquiao* in NOT out of range of his opponent’s punches. simply TERRIBLE footwork by Pacquiao*. Btw, Camacho was an ATG BOXER-puncher not a one-dimensional puncher like Pacquiao*. Camacho could rely on his speed, footwork, and boxing skills in addition to his speed-generated power that successfully KO’d about half of his opponents. meanwhile, the medical records speak for themselves. Taylor was literally demolished inside-out and only the most biased fight-fan would dare say Chavez delivered all that damage in the final two or three rounds(?). not Even Chavez was that brutally effective. conversely, Chavez was drenched in sweat; obviously drained; but virtually unmarked inside OR out. aside from Taylor’s flashy but ineffective combos, it was a typically systematic and brutally relentless Chavez performance that literally and permanently DESTROYED a prime and top-notch fighter. how many times do you see that in boxing? and of those, how many times is the “controversial”(?) winner able to claim the “W”? i’ll concede that Steele’s stoppage of the fight could be viewed as premature. however, that two of the judges were about to simply hand that victory over to a game but ineffective Taylor would have been the bigger travesty. in any case, Chavez punctuated his “controversial win” with a one-sided KO victory over Meldrick in the rematch. two fights: one TKO and one KO victory. WTF more does a fighter have to do confirm his superiority over an opponent?!?

Posted July 26, 2013 4:30 pm 


te tumbo

Roach publicly declared that DLH was “shot” and that “Oscar’s skills are slipping badly. He can no longer pull the trigger”. he was very candid about this scenario being the primary factor for agreeing to the DLH v. Pacquiao* matchup. NOT because he believed it was a risky or even competitive matchup. convincing the overconfident DLH to return to 147lbs wasn’t difficult either. at the time, DLH was determined to cherrypick his way all the way back to welter, through the “smaller” Pacquiao*, and a legacy-redeeming showdown v. the still undefeated Hatton. unfortunately, DLH weighed-in at 145lbs (two pounds beneath the 147-pound limit) on his way back to 140lbs, which revealed that he had dieted NOT trained for his bout v. Pacquiao*. on fight-night, DLH got on the “unofficial HBO scale” and had gained only two pounds. according to Roach, DLH was also trying to rehydrate with IV needles on the day of the fight. ultimately, DLH hubris provided the perfect opportunity for Pacquiao* to display his “greatness” . . . v. a faded, ringworn, and dehydrated Name not a prime or competitive welter champion or contender.

Posted July 26, 2013 4:16 pm 


hecubus

“….we saw Pacquiao lose both of those fights. “….CORRECTION, we saw him lose one of those fights

Posted July 26, 2013 4:07 pm 


Boxe0

PEEJ: You left out the part where Oscar doesn’t know how to fight lefties. Bob Arum hid all the leftie fighters from him when he was in TR. He was trying to get a rematch with Floyd and they couldn’t agree on the terms so he picked a midget and got his aXX handed to him.

Posted July 26, 2013 4:06 pm 


Rem

Pac isn’t one of the best defensive fighters but only the elite counterpunchers do it better than him. In Pac v Marquez 4 since Marquez went toe to toe Pac landed some beautiful counterpunches against a master. Its laughable to question Pacs footwork you have to be blind not to see the speed rhythm and grace in it its not what is traditionally fundamental but used for the most dynamic attack in the sport. And nothing Pac does aligns with traditional boxing fundamentals its all innovated and extremely effective. Camacho had to fight like that he had no power. The when he faught the great elite JCC it all went out the window but it wasn’t like it couldn’t be done against JCC Taylor did it all fight and that late stoppage was B.S Chaves clearly lost that one Taylor beat the count. Much better example of great footwork against the elite.

Posted July 26, 2013 3:40 pm 


PEEJ

Yes he clearly beat Oscar. And I know Oscar picked Manny. The only reason the accepted the fight is because if the way Oscar looked against Forbes and what Riach saw when training Oscar. Those are Roaches words

Posted July 26, 2013 3:19 pm 


Boxe0

PEEJ: Floyd didn’t clearly beat a faded Oscar and Oscar picked Manny not the other way around.

Posted July 26, 2013 2:34 pm 


Boxe0

People buy Pacquiao fight because majority of the time either his opponent or him will engage at some point and most of the time one or the other goes down. Only the nutheads care if he wins or loses. You’re guaranteed to see a fight unless of course the other party does not cooperate.

Posted July 26, 2013 2:32 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, Pacquiao* doesn’t counter at all. he is constantly attacking, which is what makes him such a solid and dangerous fighter, but whether Pacquiao* is leading or countering he provides an open target that is primarily defended by his offense. if a fighter remains poised and focuses on avoiding Pacquiao’s* power-left, he’ll see plenty of opportunities to unload on Manny’s* severely dented chin and jaw. Pacquiao* remains dangerous but he’s always been imminently beatable.

Posted July 26, 2013 1:43 pm 


te tumbo

anyone who mistakes Pacquiao’s* spastic darting in-and-out for good footwork is an utter boxing novice. a prime Hector Camacho demonstrated excellent footwork. invariably in range to land but out of range of counters. owning the combat zone and constantly punishing his opponent like an intruder and when Camacho wasn’t punishing he was aggressively defending with his footwork and speedy counters withOut being hit very often. in fact, it wasn’t until Camacho moved up to 140lbs that he began to absorb some punishment but the likes of prime Chavez Sr. did that to virtually EVERY opponent of his era. anyway, Pacquiao* emerged from Marquez v. Pacquiao* I a bloody and busted-up mess he didn’t fare much better in II. he consistently positions himself to be hit Often and Hard, which was the guiding principle of Marquez’s fight-plan in III and IV. wait and Pacquiao* will leap and out of an opponent’s crosshairs. all they need to do is time Pacquiao*, be patient, and “POW!” . . . Get Crackin.

Posted July 26, 2013 1:38 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is not one of the best defenders. He is not a counter puncher. Yes he is a great engager. Meaning he will throw punches with you. But that’s not countering. His foot work is questionable too. He jumps in and out. I’ve been watching him for years. That’s what made Marquez so effective against him. Marquez could time him because he jumps in and out. That is the reason why he has had trouble with all boxers and counter punchers. I know he dominated Clottey. I wasn’t denying that. But he still came out of a fight taking damage. When Clottey did open up he landed. Unfortunately he just stayed in his shell for most of the fight

Posted July 26, 2013 1:34 pm 


Rem

In the 3rd and 4th rounds Clottey surprised Pac by coming out of his shell and landed some right hands but nothing of significance because he was scared to throw with any conviction. After that Pac took it away from him and proceeded to shutting Clottey out. Pac is a solid defender because he has the best footwork in boxing. No one can match his footspeed and rhythm. The only reason he does get hit when he does is because he has to take the risk to make the fight no one will engage him unless their on peds. Same goes for 3G and Mattysse. Pac is one of the best counterpunchers in boxing how can that be possible with no defense. It doesn’t stand out because he’s always attacking but those who watch Pac and don’t hate him see it.

Posted July 26, 2013 1:19 pm 


PEEJ

I said that in a earlier post. Hatton is one of the only fights he didn’t take punishment. And Lucero but he was Garbage

Posted July 26, 2013 12:40 pm 


Moonshineman

I don’t think any of these writers have seen Pacquiao fight. Go back and watch Pacquiao vs Margarito.

Posted July 26, 2013 12:33 pm 


Rich

Pacq takes punishment against every body!!! He didn’t against Hatton…..

Posted July 26, 2013 12:13 pm 


Rem

No need for a strategy against Bum Bum he’s taylormade for Pac. What bothers me about this fight is we won’t see if Pac has any lingering problems from the ped punch Rios will barely lay a glove on Pac . You have to be extremely crafty and intelligent to get your mitts on Pac that’s why guys like Oscar, Hatton, Clottey, Margo, Mosley and Bradley barely touched him. Cotto and Marquez have been the only ones to land anything significant on Pac. Pac will dip in fire shots with lazer precision and dip out before Rios mind can respond. Rios is severely outclassed and is in for the beating of his life. His career is truly in jeopardy he doesn’t belong in the ring with Pac. Not even Heredias peds will help Rios that’s why he’s in extreme danger Margo was also on peds against Pac that’s why he didn’t go down but look how he ended up. I know a friend of Roach and he told me they hate Rios. Put crosses over this dudes eyes he’s a dead man.

Posted July 26, 2013 11:15 am 


PEEJ

Floyd clearly beat Oscar. Pac fought a faded drained Oscar and the only reason they fought him is because of how he looked against Forbes. Hatton really didn’t do much to Floyd. Except try and grapple. Marques clearly put a lot of hurting on Pac and KOd him. Cotto bloodied Flouds nose but busted Pacs eardrum. I’ll take a bloody nose over a busted ear drum any day. Pac even took punishment against Clottey. Someone who didn’t barely throw any punches. Pac takes punishment against everybody. He has no defense

Posted July 26, 2013 11:07 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Whats the plan Freddie? Hit the walking punching bag?…lol. Brandon Rios is dead. Rios was chosen for a reason over Alvarado.

Posted July 26, 2013 10:44 am 


Boomboomboy

PEEJ- who exactly with the exception of Marquez did Mayweather beat taking less punishment than Pacquiao?? You floyd ass lickers r deluded. PAC done a much better job on Hatton, De La Hoya (who I believe beat Floyd) Cotto so how do you come to that conclusion???

Posted July 26, 2013 10:30 am 


Hecdog

Prince my friend, Manny Pacquiao brings out the stars regardless of who he fights, He is boxing, and you’ll see how popular and loved this guy is around the world when he fights against Rios. I guarantee you 100% this fight will be much more entertaining than the Mayweather vs Canelo fight. Manny fights outside of the US only because he gets killed by taxes, but trust me, every major network in the US has been knocking at his door for this fight. Rios would give anyone a tough fight. He’s a warrior that comes to fight and not to run, hit, hold and hug all night as Mayweather does consistently. Why do you think fans walk out of the arena on his fights. Manny’s come back fight is without a doubt the most anticipated fight in the history of boxing as I mentioned. More anticipated than Ali vs Fraizer, Tyson vs Holyfield. Those guys had a lot of fans throught the country yes, but they don’t compare to Manny’s world wide popularity. No one does in any sport. You’re talking about Manny Pacquiao gracing the front cover of TIME. Magazine. The only anticipated event in history that is comparable to Manny Pacquiao’s return to the ring that I can think of is The first time man stepped on the moon.

Posted July 26, 2013 10:29 am 


PEEJ

Mayweather isn’t a power puncher. So no nobody should really think he was gonna KO a great boxer like Marquez. The thing with Pac is yes he should win if this was the Pac of 3 years ago but it isn’t. This is the Pac post a dramatic KO. This is definitely not the most anticipated fight of the year. The Floyd vs Canelo is and all you have to do is look how the fight is selling. Rios beats Pac by KO because Pac has no defense and his chin has been shattered

Posted July 26, 2013 10:21 am 


Hidalgo

“Pacquiao should win early by KO or retire. I mean, he has every possible advantage against Rios, who is not even an actual welterweight,” Did you think and say the same things when Mayweather fought Marquez? Because Marquez actually came up two weight divisions to fight Mayweather. Yet, Mayweather couldn’t KO Marquez even though Marquez looked worse in that fight than any I have ever seen him in.

Posted July 26, 2013 10:04 am 


TJ

PEEJ
Dan Rafael is garbage. There are better writers than him. I like hitting boxingtalk.com and maxboxing.com. Fightnews and fighthype is good too

I agree 100% – Dan Rafael is a self-publicist who has his clear favourites. I usually switch off when he comes on the box, because he doesn’t bring anything new to the discussion!

Posted July 26, 2013 7:29 am 


prince

hecdog, I am not sure in which world you are living in but it must be a funny one! Pacs return to the ring the most anticipated one in the history, are you crazy. He is fighting in China, cause nobody cares to see him against a club level figther. Your comment is so ridiculous. Highly anticipated ring returns where Ali after being banned and Tyson after his jailtime. Leonards ring return, DLH and Mayweather were all much more anticipated than this one. Also, I think the Mayweather vs Canelo fight is slightly more interesting than Pacs fight against Rios, we are talking different levels here. So come back to the real world before posting some non-sense again!

Posted July 26, 2013 7:08 am 


gavaniacono

Its PACs fight to lose. Result depends completely on what pac turns up. If he’s focused and disciplined the great man will win in a canter. But. If PAC gets sloppy and tries too much inside stuff he is at risk.

Posted July 26, 2013 6:45 am 


B.S.

Pacman just needs to keep Rios shifting his feet & not allowed to plant his feet for power = an easy win for pacman.

Posted July 26, 2013 3:00 am 


PEEJ

Dan Rafael is garbage. There are better writers than him. I like hitting boxingtalk.com and maxboxing.com. Fightnews and fighthype is good too

Posted July 26, 2013 2:41 am 


Jaimie Garande

I’m getting really tired of these articles that purport to be boxing news but eventually peter out into some ill advised and uninformed opinions on what boxers or their coaches should do. East side boxing has always been my favourite boxing site but these amateurish reports are doing my head in. Can I suggest whoever is writing them examine the work of more accomplished scribes. Dan Rafael springs to mind. And there are others. Please!

Posted July 26, 2013 1:33 am 


PEEJ

Well I think Bradley lost the fight and I think Marquez clearly won the 3rd fight.

Posted July 26, 2013 12:22 am 


done with esb

immm bannnneedddd bwahahahah unless i write princess comments\

Posted July 26, 2013 12:17 am 


done with esb

censored site 100%

Posted July 26, 2013 12:14 am 


done with esb

i’m havin fun

Posted July 26, 2013 12:13 am 


World

iwill never post or look at this site in my life 10 years of bs they wont let me express my self its all censored by paquiao and mayweather buttboyz

Posted July 26, 2013 12:11 am 


Bradley won

First of all Bradley won, just like Pac beat JMM in their third fight. The judges are ALWAYS right! Or do Pactards only complain when the judging doesn’t favor them? Either way Pac has the correct number of losses.

This is some serious cherry picking. When does a champion seek out a guy coming off a loss? Well Manny isn’t a champion so he has an excuse. Still, two losers going at it. The lesser loser will claim victory.

Posted July 25, 2013 11:57 pm 


PEEJ

We will find out in November. I still think Rios KOs Pac. Pac had something to prove against Marquez and we saw what happened there. I also think Bradley lost against Pac but it definitely was not an ass whooping. And what cost Pac the fight was fighting for only 30 seconds a round. And he never hurt Bradley in the fight. Not to mention it was still boring. Pac has not looked good in a while. And while Pac has been giving exciting fights he has taken a lot of punishment. While Floyd and Pac both have had common opponents it just shows the skills Floyd has because he makes them look easy while Pac takes much punishment through out the fight. They only fight he didn’t was the Hatton fight.

Posted July 25, 2013 11:54 pm 


KILLA

This writer has no sense of boxing history. First of all, Manny beat Bradley. Only this writer and Bradley camp can believe he won the fight. Second, Manny has been given boxing fans some of the most exciting fights in the past 5 years. He is automatically going to the boxing HOF. Third and last point, Manny has something to prove and Rios is going to be a victim.

Posted July 25, 2013 11:49 pm 


murderman

I agree! If pac loses he is done! Cause believe me rios was cherry picked just for pack!

Posted July 25, 2013 11:19 pm 


Eugthehuge

Pacquiao should win early by KO or retire. I mean, he has every possible advantage against Rios, who is not even an actual welterweight, is coming from a brutal defeat, knows no strategy, fights like a crazed caveman and gets hit all the time. A result other than a fast KO win would be very disappointing and a clear sign that Pacquiao can’t pull the trigger anymore, to put it in Roach’s words.

Posted July 25, 2013 11:17 pm 


te tumbo

I love it while Rios does his signature scream while I swallow his jizz.

Posted July 25, 2013 11:11 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

lose the p…

Posted July 25, 2013 10:46 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

LMAO @ Turbo-Hampster…

Posted July 25, 2013 10:45 pm 


Hidalgo

“OH I forgot. Bradley took Manny’s belt SO this is NON CHAMP vs. NON CHAMP.” But it will likely be a much better fight than Mayweather/Guerrero, or Mayweather/De la Hoya, or Mayweather/Ortiz, or Mayweather/Baldomir.

Posted July 25, 2013 10:41 pm 


John Digby

I have a good strategy for winning – knock the man out.

Posted July 25, 2013 10:37 pm 


pacmanDgreat

if I will rios I will train hard for this fight coz manny is going to put everything for this fight, this is make or break for pacman…His really motivated and his going for the kill. We saw it before when he was KO by rustico torrecampo back in 1996. After that manny became a beast.

Posted July 25, 2013 10:35 pm 


Turbo-Hamster

Freddie remembers Rios pi$$taking his parkinsons before the Margacheato fight.

Manny is going to get Rios buzzed, then he`ll tag Freddie into the ring.

Freddie inexplicably, will be decked out in the Garb of 90′s Wrestler Macho Man Randy Savage, and will execute a sublime powerslam on Rios crushing ever single one of his ribs.

How the referee responds to this turn of events will determine the outcome of the fight.

Some will say it should be a No COntest, but for me the rules are clear that you must defend yourself at all times, and that includes when a Parkinsons suffering Ex-boxer, dressed as an amusingly named pro-wrestler takes to the ring.

Posted July 25, 2013 10:33 pm 


PEEJ

Funny but Pac has had a KO in a while. As a matter of fact his fights against Mosley and Bradley where sort of boring. Floyd vs Mosley was much more exciting. Pac just followed Mosley around the whole time. And then he got KOd, now that was pretty exciting. Rios is going to accomplish the same thing. But it will be exciting.

Posted July 25, 2013 10:02 pm 


JpL

The Pacman needs to ride a bike in order to get out of the ring victorious. If he stands and trades, he will be met with another KO.

Posted July 25, 2013 9:41 pm 


Sick of it

te tumbo’s pro anything Mexican anti anything non-Mexican has really gotten old on these ESB threads.

And his venomous hatred of Pac Man is inexplicable. I wonder, did he know Manny in another life?

Posted July 25, 2013 9:39 pm 


PEEJ

And what principals are you talking about? Cheating on his wife, having kids out of wedlock? Or denying to take of drug test with ridiculous excuses? Just wondering

Posted July 25, 2013 9:39 pm 


Bernie

Manny is a true Champion! Not afraid to stick to his principles!

Posted July 25, 2013 9:35 pm 


PEEJ

As a matter of fact Barerras camp was making excuses before the fight because he had to be evacuated from his training camp because of forrest fires. Not to mention all the hoopla about Barreras so called metal plate in his head

Posted July 25, 2013 9:24 pm 


PEEJ

Nope you are wrong about Pacs resume. And Barrera was not in his prime.

Posted July 25, 2013 9:20 pm 


Boxtradamus

Pac-Man just needs a fight at 80% of himself and he will blow away Rios. Mayweather is nowhere near as the greatest of all time and honestly PAC is better his resume absolutely schools Mayweather’s. A prime Marquez morales and Barrera are much better pound for pound wise than any of the guys Floyd fought with very few exceptions.

Posted July 25, 2013 9:05 pm 


mayweather86

Eastside can suck me

Posted July 25, 2013 8:59 pm 


PEEJ

Pac isn’t so easily missed by punches neither.

Posted July 25, 2013 8:56 pm 


murderman

Floyd a cherry picker? He is fighting a top 5 lb for lb young lion. Pac is basically fighting a club fighter! Y dont you pactards call out pac. But yall always hate on floyd! Hypocrites! There is a difference between a great fight and a goat! Respect!

Posted July 25, 2013 8:54 pm 


ariza! ariza!

Come on the testing is overseas. The real plan is to juice him up more and grow his barry bonds head even more, then head butt Rios all night.

Posted July 25, 2013 8:30 pm 


PUNCHKEY

Rias is very easy heatable he always take too many punches once Paakea connect it will be a drunk guy at the bar :)

Posted July 25, 2013 8:13 pm 


PUNCHKEY

Manny Pac yeah will make him look like amateur

Posted July 25, 2013 8:12 pm 


forreal

…let me guess what the plan is;more juice?

Posted July 25, 2013 8:10 pm 


PEEJ

If the same Pac shows up that fought Bradley he will lose badly. If the same one that shows up from the 4th Marquez fight for those 3 rounds he did good in then he will beat Rios. Unfortunately after that KO nobody can name a boxer that has ever came back other than Duran so the numbers are not in Pacs favor. I am picking Rios by KO once he lands some of his power punches.

Posted July 25, 2013 7:54 pm 


hookoffthejab

Rios fights great offensively from the inside ..He loves to rip your heart out and shove it in your face ……..Thats his biggest weapon his a greatcnut ..If Manny can leave his ego outside of the ring , like he has when facing bigger guys Margo etc and just fight withj his fast feets …..Moving in and out at angles throwing punches in bunches …..Than Manny has this fight in the bag and will wear Rios down ………Stopping him after 3 ……….

Posted July 25, 2013 7:46 pm 


PUNCHKEY

Rios will get killed if he’ll trade with many Paakea

Posted July 25, 2013 7:42 pm 


te tumbo

“I don’t know how Arum can justify asking the American boxing public to purchase another one of Pacquiao’s fights if he loses to Rios. That would be three straight defeats”. IMO, those three straight defeats have already happened but Rios will make it official. Brandon was looking depleted at 135lbs and even at 140lbs. Team Pacquiao* did him a favor by shaving another 7lbs off of his target weight. as a result, i anticipate that Rios will be bigger and stronger than ever v. Pacquiao*. also, between Roach and Garcia, i’ll give Garcia the nod when it comes to devising an effective fight-plan. particularly when Roach’s “great plan” is depending on Pacquiao’s* great boxing skills(?). unfortunately, Pacquiao* is an inferior boxer with pathetic footwork that Rios will take advantage of by replicating Marquez’s great fight-plan by simply lying in the weeds and wait for Pacquiao* to set-up his right-hand powerpunch. it’s a predictable scenario that will repeat itself several times per round. all Rios needs to do is prepare for the openings. picking the loser between Rios v. Alvarado may have seemed like the smarter move but Rios is accustomed to dealing with lightweight handspeed and his inside game should seal the deal.

Posted July 25, 2013 7:42 pm 


PUNCHKEY

How can compare Rios to a Marquez because Rios is nowhere near to a top level as a Marquez
Rios was never a level to Marquess so he’s going to get Slotter

Posted July 25, 2013 7:40 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t think Pac has had any different strategy other than move in and out throwing punches.

Posted July 25, 2013 7:23 pm 


Ummmmmm

Manny Pacquiao strategy = punch face

Posted July 25, 2013 7:09 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

OH I forgot. Bradley took Manny’s belt SO this is NON CHAMP vs. NON CHAMP.

Posted July 25, 2013 6:27 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

While Floyd is facing #10 P4P 154 CHAMP in Alvarez, Pacquiao is facing #0 P4P NON CHAMP Brandon Rios. See THAT is the difference between GREAT and GOAT.

Posted July 25, 2013 6:26 pm 


Shane

Plan?…..?punch?

Posted July 25, 2013 6:16 pm 


Me

I’m not a big fan of pacman but I also speak the truth and the truth is he whooped Bradley’s ass maybe 2 rounds went to Bradley, and pacman doesn’t need a stragety to beat rios caus bam bam is Taylor made for pacman I honestly don’t see this fight going past 4 rds, rios comes forward pacman uses angles catch my drift!

Posted July 25, 2013 6:15 pm 


Tomato Can

I hope Manny’s chin isn’t broken. Cause if it is, he could get knoced out by a feather duster.

Posted July 25, 2013 6:08 pm 


Anonymous

In reality pacquiao lost his last fight not his last 2 just because they had judges who decided to commit fraud against pacquiao doesnt mean he deserves to be considered the loser against bradley.

Posted July 25, 2013 5:56 pm 


Hecdog

The Legendary Manny Pacquiao will make what is the most anticipated return to the boxing ring in the history of boxing. The world is eager to see the only 8 time division boxing champion in history, and the greatest fighter to have ever lived, return to his domain. No one in the history of boxing captures the fans attention like Manny Pacquiao. PPV and attendance numbers will be shattered. Fight come to see Manny fight because he is the ultimate warrior that puts his all into every fight. Manny is a combination of Tyson, Robinson, Leonard, Duran and Hagler all rolled up in a small explosive, electrified fighting machine body. He out speeds the speedsters and out punches the puncher. The reign of terror he displayed in his first go around has never will and will never be equaled. All this from a young man that came from nothing to becoming the best ever. Yes, better than Ali, Robinson, Jones, Toney, Chavez, Johnson and all the rest of the ATG’S. Fighter of the Decade, Actor, Singer, Philanthropist, Congressman, Model and Hero to millions. Manny Pacquiao on the cover of Time Magazine is unheard of. Manny Pacquiao will fight a young, hungry, strong puncher in Brandon Rios. He will do the spectacular, which he always does. No one in boxing is faster, stronger, intelligent or has more class or courage than Manny Pacquiao. Boxing will be revived once again.

Posted July 25, 2013 5:51 pm 


lman

Correction, when Pac hits him with a hatton special

Posted July 25, 2013 5:43 pm 


lman

If Pac hits him with a hatton special its over

Posted July 25, 2013 5:42 pm 


Delk1

WHO CARES, they are both coming off a LOST!!. PAC has trouble with Boxers. Thats why he is fight RIOS. This fight want prove anything. We already know PAC can out Slug a slugger. We want to see him excel where he struggles. Expect Pac to look good. THEN we will hear all the horse crap about him fighting Mayweather again and trying to call all the shots. This is Pac Look good fight. Good Luck, but Pac want need much. Rios will be right their to be knocked out.

Posted July 25, 2013 5:37 pm 


FEARS

“Perfect strategy” my eye, Roach is full of it! Rios style is tailor made for Pac’s style, but Rios is one tough hombre. All Pac has to do is fight the same way he always fights. The only question is will the thick-headed Rios be able to take Pac’s power or not. If not, Pac wins. If so, Roach, Arum and Hecdog had better cross their fingers!

Posted July 25, 2013 5:31 pm 


Papo

Well, Rios will be there to get hit; the question is whether or not he can take Pac’s hard punches. I don’t believe there’s a secret to fighting Rios. The guy comes straight toward his opponent, throws lots of punches and gets hit a lot in return.

Though Rios has proven he can take a punch, Pac has a lot more sting on his punches than Alvarado. By the second or third round Rios may be a little hesitant to throw as many punches as he is used to. I don’t see Rios lasting more than seven rounds.

As for those who believe that Pac’s days are over, let me remind them that he was doing very well against Marquez right until he got KOed. I don’t believe it was a lucky punch as Pac and other stated though. Pac was doing his best to KO Marquez and got hit several times with similar punches on previous rounds. He got careless and Juan is too great of a fighter to let the opportunity slip through his fingers…or gloves!

I take Pac by KO.

Posted July 25, 2013 5:22 pm 


prince

and what plan is that, force rios to come in at a 120 pound catchweight?

Posted July 25, 2013 5:01 pm 


Dino

Remember Mike did some boxing but he also got in there to do some inside trading too. Don’t know if Manny should trade with Rios like Mike did, Rios is gonna try to knock MP’s head off. Rios will go out on his shield, so Manny better be ready for a war.

Posted July 25, 2013 4:53 pm 


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Posted July 25, 2013 3:58 pm 



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