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Hidalgo

Old Yank, let me put it to you this way:

Let’s say you’re in college and you have a big final exam coming up. You have to take the exam, there’s no getting out of it, and your scheduled to take it early in the morning. But, when you wake up that morning, you have a massive headache. You know you are not going to be able to think clearly or to concentrate with that headache because you feel so terrible. But you have to do well on this test! So, you take some Tylenol, ibuprofen, or Advil–something to relieve the pain so you can successfully get through that exam. By the time you get to class, your headache has mostly subsided. You now feel comfortable enough to take the test. Now. Why did you take that drug? To improve your performance, right? To aid you, right? To help you get past a difficulty that you thought–or knew–would prevent you from performing at your best. You knew it would help you to perform better. So you could do a better job, right? You were worried that you couldn’t think or concentrate if you couldn’t suppress your headache. So you took a painkiller to numb the pain in your brain to help you to successfully pass the test.

Now. You’re a boxer. Your hands almost always hurt during and after sparring and during and after a fight. You got a big fight coming up. You need something to numb the pain in your hands so that they won’t hurt when you punch your opponent. So you have a doc inject xylocaine in your hands. Pain goes away and stays away throughout the fight. It doesn’t hurt when you punch so you don’t have to stop punching and you can still punch as hard as you want to. So, why did you take that drug? To improve your performance, right? To aid you, right? To help you get past a difficulty that you thought–or knew–would prevent you from performing at your best. So you could do a better job, right? You were worried that you couldn’t punch or hit as hard or as much as you wanted if you couldn’t suppress the pain in your hands.
So you took a painkiller to numb the pain in your brain to help you to successfully pass the test. You took a painkiller because you knew it would improve your performance.

Posted August 11, 2013 9:40 pm 


Hidalgo

“So what? There are a few thousand drugs that are NOT banned in boxing.”

That’s because they don’t enhance or reduce a boxer’s performance.

Posted August 11, 2013 9:20 pm 


Hidalgo

“I agree that it is a drug, but so what?” Mayweather used a drug to help him win fights. That’s what.

Posted August 11, 2013 9:14 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Now yur just being silly again. Are you actually denying that xylocaine modulates neurotransmitters such as dopamine and adrenaline? Modulating neurotransmitters is what PEDS do especially when they modulate the cardiorespiritory system. And again hyperventilation and excessive heart rate is not conducive to good for pro boxing endurance.

Posted August 10, 2013 6:24 pm 


Old Yank

disambiguation — Xylpcaine does NOT have ANY beneficial “modulating” effect on adrenaline, dopamine, serotonin, etc., for a fighter.

Posted August 10, 2013 3:10 pm 


Old Yank

Xylpcaine does NOT have ANY beneficial “modulating” effect for a fighter on adrenaline, dopamine, serotonin, etc. The exact opposite is true. It’s effects on things outside of intended pain management are ALL DETRIMENTAL to what is desirable to a fighter — DEPRESSANT! It is EXACTLY why its administration must be done by someone that knows the drug well and uses the absolute minimum dosage to achieve the intended pain management. I must now stop arguing with a fool because you will beat me with experience!

Posted August 10, 2013 2:13 pm 


Old Yank

Tylenol, once a prescription-only pain reliever, is permitted for pain suppression by virtually every sanctioning body and commission. It’s use before a bout is not dosage limited. Pain suppressants have been widely used by boxers for decades for hand issues and more — including assisting in an ability to punch harder with less pain and to absorb pain with less sensation. You guys get all jumpy with beetles in your Jockey shorts because of how exotic Xylocaine sounds? Wow! Must be a big word for some of you folks. Again, Xylocaine used to be approved by virtually every commission in the USA until only relatively recently. Indeed some ban it today.

Posted August 10, 2013 2:06 pm 


Old Yank

“Xylocaine is mostly working to depress adrenaline’s hyper cardiorepitatory responses.” Nice cut and past off some Google stopping place. Indeed Xylocaine, even when administered in small dosages, presents the risk of DEPRESSING the cardio and respiratory systems — both undesirable effects for a boxer. Mayweather used it for pain suppression (opting out of surgery as an option at the time), not as a PED replacement! GET A GRIP!

Posted August 10, 2013 1:58 pm 


Old Yank

Ty — You are full of crap to the gills! Xylocaine is a local pain killer. If anything to do with adrenaline, it is a adrenaline DEPRESSANT…thus a respiratory depressant and a potential cause of drowsiness. Try getting drowsy with an adrenalin booster! Please stop! It is not intended for use to “modulate” or “moderate” respiration — in fact the warning label of its side effects is contrary — it is a danger to the respiratory system not for an ability to increase respiration or 02 uptake, but exactly the opposite. Again, please stop! It is always better to keep your mouth shut and only be suspected of being a fool, rather than opening it and proving you are.

Posted August 10, 2013 1:55 pm 


Tyrone Jones

First of all, I said modulates, which is a more proper terminology when dealing with neurotrasmitter release. Xylocaine can lead to increases, decreases, and/or optimal transfer of neurtransmitters from one place to another. Over a drawn out boxing match Xylocaine is mostly working to depress adrenaline’s hyper cardiorepitatory responses.

Posted August 10, 2013 12:11 pm 


Old Yank

Ty — Again you have trouble reading and certainly comprehending. Can you please tell us the difference between “moderate” and “depress”? Thank you for your cooperation. Perhaps I could draw you two directional arrows demonstrating the difference. One would point down (depress), the other would point sideways (moderate). Get it? Now please stop responding to my posts if you lack the ability to comprehend plain English. Again, thank you for your cooperation.

Posted August 10, 2013 9:23 am 


Old Yank

Hidalgo — So what? There are a few thousand drugs that are NOT banned in boxing. Xylocaine is/was banned in some commission jurisdictions and not in others. I agree that it is a drug, but so what?

Posted August 10, 2013 8:57 am 


Tyrone Jones

hmm just read that Mathysse refused to train in the U.S. so Scheafer pulled some strings and is sending USADA down there

Posted August 10, 2013 3:42 am 


Tyrone Jones

GBP’s partner, the Anschutz corporation (AEG) has had big time business associations with USADA and Tygart in the past and btw is now being sued for pushing performance drugs upon Michael Jackson. Heck I bet the swindlers even slipped Sasha Fierce some drugs

Posted August 10, 2013 3:24 am 


Tyrone Jones

Peej, Floyd insisted that Oscar de la Hoya’s golf buddy Travis Tygart/USADA (United States Anti Doping Agency) do all the test ,which meant that Manny couldn’t train in the Philippines as he usually does. Manny was willing to go with WADA (World Anti-doping Association) who is actually over USADA but Floyd and Oscar wouldnt have it.

Posted August 10, 2013 2:49 am 


Tyrone Jones

hidalgo your site doesnt call Ephedrine or Adderall performance enhancers either but they are. Plus you skipped bout ten more pages of the site’s Xylocaine definition which would have given you a better idea of what I’m talking about.

Posted August 10, 2013 2:35 am 


Hidalgo

I meant to say “rxlist.com”

Posted August 10, 2013 1:41 am 


Hidalgo

But you know what Old Yank? For the moment I’ll agree with you just cuz and say xylocaine isn’t a PED. But it’s a drug. Floyd used a drug to help him fight. here’s the “Drug Description” for xylocaine taken from rxlilst.com:

“Xylocaine (lidocaine HCl) Injections are sterile, nonpyrogenic, aqueous solutions that contain a local anesthetic agent with or without epinephrine and are administered parenterally by injection.”

For a period of time in his career Floyd relied on drugs to make it through his fights. Xylocaine helped him fight, helped him to keep fighting, and helped him to win. If he didn’t need the drug to help him box he wouldn’t have used it. So, it goes without saying and without qualifiable argument to the contrary, that Floyd used a drug to enhance his performance. I don’t see how you could call it anything else.

Posted August 10, 2013 1:40 am 


Tyrone Jones

Old yank Posted August 9, 2013 9:21 pm : “Side effects of Xylocaine injections include a depressed cardiovascular response, depressed respiratory response and drowsiness. If this is what a fighter wants from a drug then I’ll eat my hat! ”

Oldy, a drug that modulates elevated cardiorespiratory rates over a 12 round fight is a definite PED; and that is exactly what Xylpcaine does by modulating fight or flight adrenaline, dopamine, seratonin, etc. Its even safer for hyper endurance sports than than is amphetimine, which induces dopamine pain relief and confidence while dangerously elevating cardiorespiratory adrenaline.

Posted August 10, 2013 1:37 am 


Hidalgo

“In reality Xylocain makes you drowsy but Floyd DOESN’T look SLOW or DROWSY ”

DToy, the xylocaine wasn’t administered to him in a manner or in sufficient enough quantity to cause drowsiness. If he did, he wouldn’t have used it. The man can’t fight if he’s drowsy.

Posted August 10, 2013 1:35 am 


Hidalgo

“It is not a PED by any stretch of the imagination.” Yes it is Old Yank. Without it Floyd had too much pain in his hands to box. Xylocaine aided Mayweather in his fights. It enhanced his performance. Call it anything you want, but it did enhance Mayweather’s performance. Because since he couldn’t feel the pain, he could box the way he wanted to. If his hands hurt like hell every time he threw a punch, he would throw much less punches and with less power as well. Two definitions of the word “enhance” are “to improve” and “to augment.” Xylocaine certainly enabled Floyd to improve his performance by augmenting his resistance to pain. When used in the manner Floyd or any boxer that uses it, it’s a PED.

Posted August 10, 2013 1:33 am 


Hecdog

Gooch, great stats, and the point is proven. Floyd Mayweather draws flies on his own.

Posted August 10, 2013 1:06 am 


dtoyS

In reality Xylocain makes you drowsy but Floyd DOESN’T look SLOW or DROWSY when he fights he looks the opposite very fast without tiring even at 36 years old with a year or two year layoff.

Posted August 10, 2013 12:33 am 


dtoyS

And for $ome reason Xylocain is LEGAL only in Nevada.

Posted August 10, 2013 12:28 am 


dtoyS

Xylocain and PED/Steroids falls under Positive for drugs so that’s why Floyd ONLY fights in Vegas because they think (Nevada urine drug test) that Floyd is only using “Xylocain” and not PED/Steroids.

Posted August 10, 2013 12:27 am 


dtoyS

Yeah but Floyd is not on Xylocain his on PED he has FOOLED the Nevada boxing Comm. by saying that the reason his drug positive is because he had to use Xylocain for his supposedly brittle hands that’s why he doesn’t look drowsiness but the opposite.

Posted August 10, 2013 12:22 am 


Gooch

Peej -my contention is that: mayweather does not sell fights. His Mexican headline opponent and Mexican undercard fighter on Mexican holidays create the ppv buys

Baldomir-325k poverty buys. Not Mexican. Not Mexican holiday.
Odh – 1.99m buys. Mexican. Mexican Independence Day
Hutton-920k buys, not Mexican, not Mexican holiday(it was wembleystadium in Vegas!)
JMM- 1.o ppv buys, Mexican, Mexican holiday, Mexican undercard
Mosley-1.3m ppv buys, not Mexican, Mexican holiday, Mexican undercard(cAnelo)
Ortiz- 1.25m ppv buys, Mexican, Mexican holiday, Mexican underrcard(Canelo)
Cotto-1.5m ppv buys not Mexican,Mexican holiday, Mexican underrcard(Carnelo)
Guerrero-870k ppv buys, Mexican, Mexican holiday, Mexican undercard.

As you can see Floyd cannot exist outside these parameter. Floyd never has been in a single ppv event iif it does not involve Mexican fighters. Impossible. He tried once with baldomir and look at those embarrassing numbers . Prove me wrong peej

Posted August 9, 2013 11:43 pm 


PEEJ

Ok that’s what I thought

Posted August 9, 2013 9:40 pm 


MARK IV

There’s a lot of comments here @436, a lot of controversy and a lot of nonsense..YAAAY!!
Pretty soon it’ll go to the next page and the Wilder fight will be “IN”, it’s the next in thing.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:25 pm 


Old Yank

Side effects of Xylocaine injections include a depressed cardiovascular response, depressed respiratory response and drowsiness. If this is what a fighter wants from a drug then I’ll eat my hat! Dosage administration is most effective when used in the absolute lowest dosage that brings about intended relief. It is not a PED by any stretch of the imagination.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:21 pm 


ANON

dale who ??

Posted August 9, 2013 9:17 pm 


Old Yank

PEEJ — Xylocaine is in the Novocaine family of numbing agents. It is not an adrenalin booster as someone reported earlier; in fact all numbing agents from the Novocaine family can slow the metabolism.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:12 pm 


?

Dale Winton?

Posted August 9, 2013 9:11 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

And like that, poof, he’s gone!

Posted August 9, 2013 9:11 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

I’m counting real slow for your benefit.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:09 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Tick tock

Posted August 9, 2013 9:08 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Nope. One more guess left and then I’m gone. You have 3 minutes to work it out.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:03 pm 


ANON

my friend turbo hamster aka mongrel.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:02 pm 


PEEJ

You can’t compare fighters from yesteryear to today. And what I think is funny that you can ask any trainer if Floyd could compete in any era and they would say yes. No he would not be undefeated but they would still say he would win against some of the greats and lose against some of the greats. These are people with a trained boxing eye but yet all fans doubt them. Like I have said many times you know you have made it when you have many haters.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:01 pm 


ANON

LOL Big Foot

Posted August 9, 2013 9:00 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

The answer to the riddle couldn’t be any more simple.

Who’s the fool again?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:59 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

You fool, I’m not hookoffthejab.

Because I like playing games.

I find people’s stupidity fascinating.

Watching them get it wrong time and time again is amusing.

It’s not like I don’t try to help them out.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:58 pm 


BIG FOOT

Chicken?..Yeah maybe he’s Floyd.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:57 pm 


ANON

you fool, i’m not Tark. YOU talking child’s play ?? YOU ?? Seriously ?? Why don’t you post with your real handle when you insulting other posters ? Are you chicken ?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:53 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

I like playing games.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:51 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Yeah sure. You just make yourself look even more dumb when you get it wrong Tark.

Try again. How obvious do I have to make it before you cotton on?

This is child’s play.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:49 pm 


ANON

yeah….sure…..

Posted August 9, 2013 8:46 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

I don’t even know who that is. So no is the answer to that question.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:39 pm 


ANON

aren’t you hookoffthejab ?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:36 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

I’m not Ernie but I am the person in the simple riddle I set.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:35 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

You talking to me anon?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:32 pm 


BIG FOOT

I agree with the Real American Oak, but Arguello might be questionable.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:29 pm 


ANON

hookoffthejab ??

Posted August 9, 2013 8:29 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

What do you call a dead person on a horse?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:28 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

When I first discovered this place I used to wonder why you and Ernie were always at each others throats all the time. But then I started reading your posts Tark and everything became clear.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:24 pm 


I see Good

TARK it would be EASY to be a COMMENTATOR in the USA. Just KISS fLOYDS nuts, Tell the GOYUM public that ALL American fighters are the BEST. Tell people OUT in the there that you are getting the MOST for your money saying the greats fights greats. NO PROBLEM its that easy.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:21 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

You’re a prize tit and and extremely irritating one at that.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:20 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Anyone who thinks Tark is an irritating moron is Ernie. I guess half the people on here must be Ernie then?

Tark you’re an over opinionated know-it-all who in reality doesn’t know very much at all. You carry on like you’re some wise old sage and a fountain of boxing knowledge but the amount of garbage and tripe that comes out of your mouth could fill up an Olympic swimming pool 100 times over.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:19 pm 


THE REAL AMERICAN OAK

Why do so many people feel compelled to defend Mayweather? If he is so good why are there doubters? I’ll tell you why: Some people like strawberry, some vanilla. I myself do not like his style. Period. Don’t tell me I’m nuts or call me names in broken ebonics. I do not like him and I am a boxer and a professional judge.

He would not hold a candle to the old greats. Hearns would KO him. He doesn’t have a punch that would hold off Duran, Hearns, Leonard, Hagler, Benitez, Pryor, Arguello and more. Floyd has come along at a good time. However he will not retire with the “0”, or peoples respect. A lot of money, but who cares?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:17 pm 


PEEJ

don’t think Xylocaine is a PED. Isn’t it a numbing agent of some sort?

Posted August 9, 2013 8:04 pm 


Old Yank

ty — I require folks reading my posts to know how to read before commenting on them. Your cooperation is required.

Posted August 9, 2013 8:03 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Actually Tard, I just don’t really care what you think everyone else thinks. Douche-nozzle…

Posted August 9, 2013 7:51 pm 


BIG FOOT

So Floyd was using PED’s for the pain, I wonder if it was the same stuff Vit used for his pain which resulted in his being ousted from the Olympics? It doesn’t seem as though the Democrats are getting in a very good balancing act with the economy.

Posted August 9, 2013 7:00 pm 


TARK

Everyone knows it’s you turd face… deal with it.

Posted August 9, 2013 6:51 pm 


TARK

Ernie Enema Schnozzle… You’re ALL ASS — ALL the time.

Posted August 9, 2013 6:37 pm 


big rubben

At least oscar had the balls to take on fighter like b_hop.

Posted August 9, 2013 6:29 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

With adding Obamacare and decreasing the stimulus, 2014 is going to be interesting.

Posted August 9, 2013 6:19 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

Oscar didn’t care and made some more $$$. Supposedly his legacy wasn’t at risk to him because he was fighting a bigger guy anyway, so take a dive.

Posted August 9, 2013 6:16 pm 


Hidalgo

“I knew the end would come around the 8th or 9th round and predicted Oscar would find a way to lose that wouldn’t damage him as much as Trinidad was damaged in his fight with Hopkins. ”

That’s what I’ve always thought too Tark. Except I call it “taking a dive.” Oscar bailed. Hopkins won.

Posted August 9, 2013 6:01 pm 


Fight Scribe

Tark- you really love making an ass of yourself…every time you write something lols.

Posted August 9, 2013 5:54 pm 


Hidalgo

“It will take several Democrats in a row to get it balanced like Bill Clinton had it.” Or we could kill all the Republicans. ;)

Posted August 9, 2013 5:54 pm 


Hidalgo

“I don’t care if he had xylocaine in his fists or Michael Cain up his ass, the man can fight. ” Of course he can fight, Old Yank. But a PED is a PED is a PED. Mayweather was injecting a chemical into his hands that not only helped him to finish fights but to win because without the injections he probably could not have boxed for the pain. Otherwise, why was he taking xylocaine?

Floyd is a fabulous boxer. But he enhanced his performance with a pain-numbing medicine. That’s called a PED: Performance Enhancing Drug.

Posted August 9, 2013 5:53 pm 


big rubben

When I first heard that canelo vs trout wasn’t going to be on the may vs guerrero fight, first thing came to my mind was this is going hurt the ppv buys on mayweather bout. Otherwise floyd and his big ass mouth was going to take all the credit like he did on de la hoya fight. Last but not least if it wasnt for dlh he wouldn’t even be here.

Posted August 9, 2013 5:40 pm 


Tyrone Jones

In other words, a marine insurance surveyor can afford a Gucci suit but he is still a hardass that can get as down and dirty as any captain so maybe try pick another example

Posted August 9, 2013 5:24 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Old Yank, sounds like flip flopping on apples and oranges but are you now saying that the rich marine insurance agent with the Gucci suit communicates captaining boats better than any other even though he is NOT an expert on captaining or boats? I’d reckon that a six figure marine agent in a Gucci suit probably captains a nice boat and Ive always heard that marine insurance inspectors must not only know the history of boats and captains but also know a great deal about boat structure and mechanics.

Posted August 9, 2013 5:19 pm 


Gooch

mayweather happens to just be in a good event-he is by no.meams the event star… kinda like Ringo starr believing fans payed to see him instead of lenon and macarthy… or latoya and jermaine jackson believing they paid to see her and not michael jackson

Posted August 9, 2013 4:59 pm 


Gooch

to prove my point that no1 pays to see mayweather, wht were mayweathers ppv numbers vs non-mexican fighters like baldomir, gatti? no1 will ever pay to watch him without a mexican headliner (rare occasion would be pac, and cotto, hatton) whom are more popular than mayweathr)

Posted August 9, 2013 4:52 pm 


Gooch

peej -nobody pays to see mayweather… his opponents happen to have the fans(marquez, odh, hatton, jlcastillo ) -his undercards are filled with proven mexican names and mexican talent canelo3-4× , abner mares, erik morales, etc… and his ppv are exclusively on mexican holiday may 5 or mex independence day 16 sept weekend.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:41 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

I cringe when I read your waffle.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:38 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Arrogant ponce thinks everyone who criticizes him is Ernie. You should try taking into a dictaphone so you can hear how much garbage you come out with.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:36 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Nope. Wrong again. That’s one thing you are very adept at Tark. Being wrong.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:34 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

You’re totally clueless. Embarrassingly clueless. But you prance around like you’re some kind of great boxing sage and a fountain of knowledge when in reality you’re full of hot air and bunkum.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:33 pm 


TARK

We all know you’re here Ernie Enema Schnozzle.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:32 pm 


TARK

Old Yank…. Dubya’s last defeficit, which Obama got saddled with, was 1.6 Trillon… Obama can’t shut off all the funds that were desperately needed to bail out the ecomomy, the banks, big business, and millons of workers tossed out of work with a magic wand… He had to work with the impossible fiscal situation he inherited.. Now it’s about 600 billion or so, but the mire Bush sunk the country into will take more than a decade to pull out of — if we do everything perfectly from here on out.

Which we won’t.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:29 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Tark there are some awful commentators out there but I’m afraid even the worst ones don’t speak as much garbage as you. You wouldn’t last a week in a commentary position. You’d be sacked on the spot and told to never darken the network’s dark doors again. The public would demand you weren’t allowed to pollute the airwaves with your balderdash and piffle.

Posted August 9, 2013 4:27 pm 


RAY GORDON REID

old YANK BEEN A BOXING FAN SINCE A LITTLE KID

Posted August 9, 2013 4:24 pm 


I see Good

PEEJ HBO said FLOYD your fights dont generate REVENUE anymore (HAND PICK FIGHTS) YES SHOWTIME SIGN him up FOR MORE MONEY. But theres a caytch NO MORE HAND PICK FIGHTS. Showtime said YOU FIGHT CANELO NEXT. Do you think CHERRYPICKER would of ASK for this FIGHT????? Nopey No. When FLOYD foght EVERYBODY already KNEW the outcome. This is his FIRST fight wheres there DOUBT. NOT a HAND PICK FIGHT thats why

Posted August 9, 2013 4:13 pm 


PEEJ

If Floyd fights are so boring then why does he sell more PPVs than anyone? Why does he break prophets from tickets sales records? If he is so boring why does everybody watch him?

Posted August 9, 2013 4:03 pm 


I see Good

TARK besides a 17 trillion dollar debt. AND COUNTING. what about OBOMBA CARE (how many more trillions?) What about SSI whats that going to cost?? Health care? You seem to miss this??? , so as USA destroys other countries wasting TRILLIONS, USA infrustruter FALLING apart, 54 million on FOOD stamps, outsouced 14 million middle class jobs that are NEVER comming back, WHO will pay the TAXES??? Dont WORRY Helicopter BEN BERNACKIE will have Quantatative easing 85 billion a month on MORTGAGES etc. Theres NO ANSWER INFLATION wait till it STARTS. TO BIG TO FIX GAME OVER. NOT EVEN AUSTERITY 9STARVE THE POOR) will WORK. Can ANYBODY say FEUDLEISUM??? Ask the 1%ers they know ask the KOCH brothers. ESB as you READ this YOU wont PRINT it , YOU might because YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT ITS OVER YOUR HEAD

Posted August 9, 2013 3:59 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tark, how sad…

Posted August 9, 2013 3:57 pm 


Pink Willow

Politics Politics. Did you see that girls’ ass?

Posted August 9, 2013 3:56 pm 


RAY GORDON REID

OLD YANK been doing computreting since 2002 = 2003

Posted August 9, 2013 3:52 pm 


Pink Willow

Old Yank:

Republicans, Democrats…married.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:51 pm 


Pink Willow

Why did we get into this war and that, I don’t know. Maybe a lot of us don’t know. Sure, people are getting rich. They always get rich in war. It’s profitable to the pirates but not so much for the country and its people.

It’s a hard job. It’s a dirty Job. And its hard for me to say what’s going on behind the scenes because presidents tend to end up doing some shady things to get things done.

Tough job.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:50 pm 


I see Good

ESB I KNOW you READ my COMMENT . YES the TRUTH HURST YOU KNOW I AM TELLING the TRUTH. Dont worry if you are the 1% er. A ZIONIST you KNOW what I am talking about. I only speak the truth. Yes I SEE GOOD. I am NO DUMMY.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:49 pm 


Old Yank

self-inflicted wounds

Posted August 9, 2013 3:48 pm 


Pink Willow

Old Yank:

You have to look at the Country as a Wounded E.R. victim that is continually bleeding. THe country was left bleeding on the streets. The new President was going to have to figure out how to get an ambulance in time to him before he dies. Then hope there are good enough Doctors to fix him up. Then he’ll have to pay off the unplayable debt he is now in because he has no health insurance. And God Forbid you have infections during the recovery which is likely.

It’s a long road back to recovery. Some make it, some don’t.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:47 pm 


Old Yank

Bush’s lagest deficit was about $500 million; Obama’s smallers about $1 trillion. Both are out of control but the last I checked, $1 trillion was about twice as big as $500 million — but let’s ask a 5th grader to be sure!

Posted August 9, 2013 3:35 pm 


TARK

Lampley, Kellerman, Papa, Bernstein, and Jim Gray are a bunch of dummies… They may know how to turn a phrase. They may have a degree in English or communications. They may have worked with speech coaches and voice coaches on how to project. They have good makeup artists (and they need them).

But the comments coming from the Steward’s, Jones’s, Hopkins’s, Leonard’s, Lewis’s, give far more insight into what’s actually happing in the ring. The other commentators are often 3 rounds behind what’s actually happening and just running their mouths to keep “communication” flowing. I put Paulie Malignaggi into the group of boxer/commentators who actually don’t know a whole lot. Paulie tries to run his mouth non-stop like Teddy Atlas. A lot of garbage and worthless clichés comes out for every tidbit of insight.

Some “world-class” boxers actually aren’t.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:33 pm 


Old Yank

TARK, TARK, TARK…Boxing is ENTERTAINMENT! Who gives a rats ass about two guys fighting in an empty room with no one to observe what’s happening. Mankind has a history of needing to be told what it is that they are observing. That’s where professional communicators come in. Some are good and others are not. The good ones are not “wanna-be fighters” and are not “any armchair critic”. Arum, HBO, Hauser, The Garden, Manchester, national pride, island pride, racial angles, money, sanctioning bodies, rankings, commissions, refs, judges, fanman, corruption and more are all a part of the circus of entertainment we call boxing. Seeing it as a sport that can only be communicated by boxers and trainers is as one-dimensional as Left Hook Lacy!

Posted August 9, 2013 3:33 pm 


TARK

Obama has cut deficit spending by more than 50% in less than 5 years… and it’s still out of control… It will take several Democrats in a row to get it balanced like Bill Clinton had it.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:31 pm 


Rome

When Mayweather leaves boxing, then boxing can be reborn.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:23 pm 


Old Yank

republicans = cut taxes, big government and spend more; democrats = raise taxes, big government and spend more. its all out of control.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:22 pm 


Old Yank

I SEE GOOD — Fine observations and more importantly they are yours and real for you. I was granted my certificate of citizenship in the USA when I was a teen. I’m often caught between national pride and national shame. I’m a long-time boxing fan and have made some amazing connections and friends via boxing. Life often unfolds in unpredictable ways and when we lears to roll with the punches it becomes a lot more enjoyable to jusst breathe as life unfolds. Peace to you!

Posted August 9, 2013 3:19 pm 


TARK

Insurance is a great business… If you get the actuary stats right you can’t miss. Premiums in, claims paid out. If you flub the actuaries you go broke.

Boxing is a similar business… You deal so many punches… You take far fewer punches yourself… You’re successful.

Like Bill Clinton said, “Republicans are very bad at arithmetic. They can’t balance a budget because they spend twice or three times as much money as they have coming in.”

Posted August 9, 2013 3:13 pm 


Old Yank

TARK — Finally making some sense. Yes indeed, “expert” non-fighters can be blind from time to time to what experienced trainers and fighters instinctively see. But that does not automatically make Merchant, Lampley, Kellerman, Papa, Bernstein, and Jim Gray the “any armchair critic” you apparently claim them to be. They are not wanna-be fighters. They are at the top of their craft in sports communication – and they’ve remained there for YEARS – decades in some cases. That does not make them infallible; it makes them better at knowledgably communicating the totality of the sport than 99.8% of men who ever walk into a gym.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:01 pm 


I see Good

OLD YANK I am in the FILM industry at the moment. (3 years) I am the one BEING FILM not a camera man. I am on TV. I am on TV all over the WORLD. Thanks Burbank and thanks for the MONEY. I am a HIT in the USA, though my acting job is NOT physical but its MENTALY DRAINING. But still BETTER than slugging it out from 9 to 5 or 8 to 4. Before for 30 years. They say Athletes make great money. Hollywood PAYS pretty dam good NOT as good as a CHERRYPICKER but NOT bad. The PRODCURES from Paromount came for me I didnt go down there. I dont like the USA, the American people are nice, but your foreign policy is written in blood. I travel across the prairies these past 3 weeks be stop and ask for autographs pictures taken with me fans. Its nice but you really dont have any privacy. So I ask myself what job is better, STEALING ROBBING PEOPLE in A BANK. OR working for an INSURANCE company knowing WELL they will NEVER pay out a lot of the claims, CROOKED. Or be film acting like an idiot. OH well takes all kinds to make a living I guess. Good day

Posted August 9, 2013 3:00 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

He wasn’t a big detractor idiot. He just tells it like it is and doesn’t sugar-coat his words.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:57 pm 


TARK

Merchant was not a Hopkins fan at the time he fought De La Hoya… He was a big detractor… He jumped on the band wagon much later, much like he did with Floyd.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:56 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

And a lunatic is a lunatic. No one on here knows more about lunacy than you.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:54 pm 


TARK

A rocket scientist is a professional… He knows all about rockets.

A world-class boxer or boxing trainer is a professional… He knows all about Boxing. At least he has a grasp that goes well beyond the fundamentals.

A pundit or commentator is somebody with a keyboard or a microphone, and an opinion. His opinion is generally not an educated or informed one, depending on whether he has background in the sport. You dont hear from a lot of rocket scientists who never worked on rocket design or development … however you hear from a lot of boxing “experts” who never pulled on a glove or trained a world-class boxer.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:52 pm 


Old Yank

Ah, as all the financial world goes broke, investment bankers and high-end insurance underwriters rake in HUGE incomes. Indeed an unholy alliance exists between governments and banking (especially central banking). But I will let them figure out how to continue the rip-off while I do my own thing. And, by-the-way…Lloyd’s will likely return a massive profit this year (I’ll guess around 2.8 billion pounds — not bad for a company counted out by skeptics last year).

Posted August 9, 2013 2:49 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

De La Hoya was catching Hopkins with quite a lot during the early going idiot.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:46 pm 


Old Yank

Ray Gordon Reid — Yup, you’ve been around Eastside Boxing a long, long time old friend. Do you have your own computer now?

Posted August 9, 2013 2:44 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

Merchant was a big Hopkins fan idiot. Do you even watch fights?

Posted August 9, 2013 2:44 pm 


I see Good

OLD YANK Lyods of LONDON , BARCLAYS, Royal Bank of Scotland just to NAME a few are BROKE. ZOMBIE bank, the CENTRAL BANK of ENGLAND infuzed it with CASH. (TAXPAYERS of course). As the rest in America, Bank of America Citi Jp Morgan Chase. ha ha ha ha HSBC just got fine 500 million for LAUNDERING DRUG CARTEL money. ha ha ha If people REALLY knew what was going on.in the world. The JIG is up, The BOND market is ready to crash. what will happen to mortgage rates when the BOND market crashes, its gear to mortgage rates. In Canada we are a resource base country selling commodities, England makes its money in BANKING. Lets see Colateralize debt obligations, credit default swaps SOLD via England from GOLDMAN SACHS, LOVE this one F$CKING with the LIBOR for the PAST 30 years. London inter banks over night exchange rate. WASH TRADES NAKED SHORTS SPECULATION on the DERIVATIVES OVER LEVERAGE to the HILT, Can REPOTHICATE a STOCK to infinity. ha ha ha ha ha Inthe USA it can be done only to 157%. For whats that worth. HOUSE of CARDS WORLD MONETARY SYSTEM will colapse in 3 years. Today the BULLION bank in ENGLAND has LOST 450 million TONS of GOLD . ha ha ha ha. Keeping up with their PARTNERS in NewYork they MISPLACE GERMANYS gold at the NEW YORK FED, ha ha ha ha The GERMANS thought RUSSIA would invade them and take their GOLD.. Christ they GAVE it to the USA ???/ Where is it?????? ha ha ha ha

Posted August 9, 2013 2:44 pm 


Tark Expert textpert choking smokers, Don’t you think the joker laughs at you?

TARK has a Ph.D in talking out of his ass.

Anyone who takes anything that comes out of his mouth seriously needs there head examined even more than he does.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:42 pm 


Old Yank

Nope — The man in the $6,000 Italian suit at Llody’s has never captained a tanker in his life – he does not even pump his own gas…hell, he does not even drive his own car. He knows how to communicate with an actuarial and how to price insurance. And by-the-way, he’s often priced it in the neighborhood of 1/2% of the value of the tanker load. Figure it out: 2 million barrels a day offloaded to tankers in Iraq alone at an average value in the neighborhood of $100 per barrel. This insurance is sold every day, 365 days a year. The insurance salesman (who has never stepped foot on a tanker) takes his 3% commission. OK, I’ll do the math for you: that’s 3% on $1 million per day in commissions or $30,000 per day. Not a bad income for the 6 guys who split it at Lloyd’s. You should jump on that soon because it’s so damn easy. But again, I forgot, you’re a tanker captain, not a wanna-be tanker captain selling marine insurance for Lloyd’s – you’d rather show your skills as a tanker captain at $120,000 per year rather than become that wanna-be captain selling that easy insurance, making over $1.8 million per year. Again, the point is that a great writer is not a wanna-be boxer. But let’s also be real – every man would love to be a great fighter – so in that regard we are ALL WANNA-BE fighters.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:40 pm 


TARK

Old Yank… Larry Merchant is a guy who said “So far De La Hoya is beating Hopkins to the punch” when Oscar wasn’t landing a damned thing… Oscar didn’t have a chance on God’s green Earth but Merchant didn’t know it. I knew the end would come around the 8th or 9th round and predicted Oscar would find a way to lose that wouldn’t damage him as much as Trinidad was damaged in his fight with Hopkins. Which if you can remember guys like Merchant thought Trinidad would beat Hopkins.

How can somebody who’s not a good boxer beat someone who’s a master boxer??? Merchant never liked B-Hop so his bias warped his insights … Not that he ever had any that were in any way illuminating.

Emmanuel Steward was a communicator who at least knew what he was talking about some of the time. He was a boxer and trainer for many decades.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:20 pm 


123=VI

Never in the History of Boxing happened what Floyd brought to DISGRACE the great sport of Boxing, Sugar Ray fought all the top fighters in his div., Duran fought all the top fighters in his div., Tyson fought all the top fighters in his div., Salvador Sanchez fought all the top fighters in his div., Julio C. Chavez fought all the top fighters in his div., Morales/Barrera fought all the top fighters in his div., Marquez fought and is still fighting BIGGER fighters in ANY div.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:19 pm 


123=VI

Oh I forgot to add Sergio Martinez too.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:08 pm 


RAY GORDON REID

iwas on EASTY SIDEY BOXINGY BEFORE YOU GUYS ON HERE NOW

Posted August 9, 2013 2:03 pm 


123=VI

When Floyd moved to the Welterweight Div. all the top Welterwights like Paul Williams, Cintron, Magarito, Clottey, Cotto were ready to fight Floyd but for some CHICKEN reason Floyd NEVER fought neither one.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:01 pm 


Tyrone Jones

In this case you just answered you agree with me–a good marine insurance agent is one because he is also a an expert marine captain and marine mechanic. For example, your teddy atlas is an expert announcer because he was also an expert coach and before that a golden gloves champ.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:59 pm 


RAY GORDON REID

BEEGRAL IWAS BORN IN WAYCROSS GEORGIA JAN1/11/1955

Posted August 9, 2013 1:58 pm 


Havoc

Skills,sweet science, zero loss sounds good but in reality Floyd fights are boring!

Posted August 9, 2013 1:56 pm 


Old Yank

I hear you…but…Anyone can sell marine insurance? Take a guess what a marine insurance agent at the top of his game earns. And if it’s so damn easy, why don’t more folks grab some of that easy cash? Lloyd’s of London has a few marine insurance agents who specialize in insuring oil tankers that pass through the Persian Gulf. Why don’t you strap on a $6,000 Italian suit and grab some of that easy money? The folks at Exxon know it’s so easy that you can become an expert overnight! Oh, I forgot…your a boat captain not a wanna-be boat captain. Here is the point: It is INSULTING to call critics, commentators, writers and analysts a “wanna-be” anything. As I said, if your God-given gift is to fight, then fight! If it is to communicate, then communicate! If it’s both (a relative rarity considering the thousands who step in gyms and between ropes and the dozens who step behind a microphone), then do both!

Posted August 9, 2013 1:50 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Yes you are so sure he will beat Canelo but we want him to be like Ward and fight people we are not so sure he will beat

Posted August 9, 2013 1:39 pm 


Tyrone Jones

yeah boxers often have the gift of gab and are extremly well spoken but but they are often not hired because that is often just not their thing, especially when networks and promoters want a hype machine with the vocabulary of a teacher’s pet

Posted August 9, 2013 1:37 pm 


Tyrone Jones

An outsider looking in can give a unique perspective but most often the best experts have had some sort long term inside associations. And Again, actors make great directors and anyone can sell insurance and yes astronauts often have engineering degrees because engineers are often experts at driving their engines and that why. Anyway, boxers often make great announcers and communicators.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:30 pm 


Old Yank

Who would I rather share a beer with, Roy Jones, Jr. and Teddy Atlas or Larry Merchant and Jim Lampley? HELL, NO CONTEST — Jones and Atlas. But that’s a different story. And I certainly would not turn down the opportunity to share a beer with Merchant or Lampley — but the only thing I’ve ever shared with them is an elevator ride.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:20 pm 


Old Yank

Supreme — You might be 100% correct! But a “W” is a “W” and historians will eventually analyze the script to death.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:14 pm 


Old Yank

ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS: A man unable to communicate what he knows is as useless as a man who knows nothing!
Several boxers and trainers have made credible transitions from the ring/gym to behind the microphone — Roy Jones, Jr., Emanuel Stewart, Gil Clancy, Teddy Atlas, Paulie Maliginaggi, George Foreman and several more – feel free to list your favorites. Others have been disasters in my opinion — Lenox Lewis…Need I say more. Of the thousands and thousands of fighters who step into a ring and trainers in the gym, only a tiny percentage of the thousands and thousands possess the necessary communication skills to credibly transition to behind a microphone

Posted August 9, 2013 1:12 pm 


Supreme Court aka The Highest Court aka Nincompoopcide

old yank- “either way he will score enough points to heat canelo”and that is the difference between atgs the likes of pac/chavez/ trinidad versus mayweather. mayweather will do just ENOUGH to get hy and eek a decision… he will be on his bike vs canelo or clinch… may is the GOAT of clinching/bike running.. this is boxing-not a marathon

Posted August 9, 2013 1:10 pm 


Old Yank

Inside the ring is primarily about physical skills (some coupled with higher mental skills than others). Being a sports commentator or sports writer is about communication skills. These are very different skill sets. Each man is called to use his gifts to the best of his God-given ability. Let fighters fight and communicators communicate and let spectators and readers vote with their eyes and their ears and their wallets.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:50 pm 


Old Yank

Tyrone Jones — So a successful auto engineer is a wanna-be racecar driver? A successful marine insurance agent is a wanna-be boat captain? A successful movie director or producer is a wanna-be actor? How many wanna-be sportscasters can be found in the washed up careers of athletes? Please… Get a grip!

Posted August 9, 2013 12:45 pm 


Old Yank

I don’t care if he had xylocaine in his fists or Michael Cain up his ass, the man can fight. It does not matter if he’s clucking or punching, either way he will score enough points to beat Canelo.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:38 pm 


Fabio Boys

HE IS ALWAYS A CHICKEN!

Posted August 9, 2013 12:26 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but the guy was suspended for having plaster of paris on his hand. That is not soft knuckle. When Nazhim felt it he said it was hard. He was suspended and fined not to mention his trainer was suspended or band. Sorry but he is a cheat plain and simple. Also he has sucked ever since he was found out

Posted August 9, 2013 12:20 pm 


Old Yank

Tark — Who said “Any arm chair critic?” Again, you know boxing but have trouble connecting your knowledge/brain to your mouth! It was YOU that wrote those words, not me! The engineer with a 30 year SUCCESSFUL career knows more about building cars than the successful race car driver. The sport of boxing has a hell of a lot to do with what happens outside the ring — perhaps you did not know that! Therefore, indeed a Larry Merchant or a Jim Lampley (worthy of critique themselves), have earned a place in the sport due to showing that they are capable of often imparting more information about the sport than what comes out of the mouths of the rocket scientists inside the ring. PS — You have enough trouble connecting your brain to your mouth all on your own, so please don’t attempt to put words in mine!

Posted August 9, 2013 12:01 pm 


Tyrone Jones

Peej, Margarito merely used a soft knuckle protecting pad–NOT plaster and thus less of a ped danger than xylocaine

Posted August 9, 2013 11:21 am 


Tyrone Jones

xylocaine effect a lot more than just pain relief, it effects one’s whole hormonal fight or flight release–helping one to relax in times where adrenaline would normally take a toll on endurance

Posted August 9, 2013 11:14 am 


TARK

Old Yank…., “The notion that the rocket scientists found inside a boxing ring are best equipped with the gray matter necessary to fully grasp all that needs to be grasped about their sport, is a joke of stunning magnitude!”

Right. A joke of stunning magnitude. Therefore any armchair critic knows more then the athletes and trainers who spend 20 to 60 years studying their craft.

Posted August 9, 2013 11:13 am 


Tyrone Jones

Oldy, interesting perspective but Critics are just wannabes. If inclined to do so actors would make the best movie critics because they actually have to pick the best actors, scenes, etc. Likewise, I’d say chefs make the best food critics.

Posted August 9, 2013 11:07 am 


Tyrone Jones

Oldy, interesting perspective but Critics are just wanna bees. If inclined to do so actors would make the best movie critics because they actually have to pick the best actors, scenes, etc. Likewise, I’d say chefs make the best food critics.

Posted August 9, 2013 11:06 am 


Hidalgo

“The FACT is that IF xylocaine can make you as GREAT as Floyd IS then everyone needs to move to Vegas and use it TOO.”

Correctamundo, so you’re saying xylocaine made Floyd the boxer he is today.

Thank YOU for agreeing with ME! Floyd would not be what he is today without the help of xylocaine.

Posted August 9, 2013 10:39 am 


PEEJ

Gooch just because he is better than everybody he has stepped into the ring with and it wasn’t very competitive for the exception of a couple of fights is not Floyds fault. And people enjoyed the Cotto fight. When you are the best racer out there and nobody can beat you, you don’t start racing with flat tires just to make it competitive.

Posted August 9, 2013 10:30 am 


BIG FOOT

He’s chicken.

Posted August 9, 2013 10:28 am 


de Lima I.

@Adrian

I assume that you’re a Pacman fan and that’s ok! MP is a great fighter no doubt about it! He’s just not as skilled as FMJ.
To say otherwise is ignorant and foolish.

HAGD

Posted August 9, 2013 10:15 am 


Gooch

“That was an incredible and exciting fight Floyd was in!” -Said nobody.

Posted August 9, 2013 10:09 am 


PEEJ

You need to get your fact straight. He tried to fight Mosley in his prime but Mosley jumped up 2 weight divisions to fight Oscar. Arum wouldn’t let Cotto near Floyd. And we already know why. Arum may be a greedy grumpy old man but he knows about boxing and he knew Floyd would beat Cotto. As for Margacheato, all his career is suspect and doesn’t really count anymore. The man was a cheat and that is that. He shouldn’t be brought up. Clottey, he lost to both Margacheato and Cotto. And he showed a poor showing against Pac, how did he earn a shot at Floyd? And Pac unfortunately didn’t agree to random testing, he came up with too many excuses not to mention when he so called did agree to the testing and the fight was so called close to being finalized, Arum threw a wrench in all that by saying they needed to build an out door stadium

Posted August 9, 2013 9:47 am 


BRUCE

THERE ALL ON PEDS.

Posted August 9, 2013 9:34 am 


ERECTAMUNDO

Floyd avoided….. Margarito in his prime (regardless of the handwrap scandel) He avoided Cotto in his prime, he avoided Pacquioa, when everyone wanted a piece of him, he avoided Clottey, he avoided Mosley in his prime…. now let me hear the Floyd nutthuggers out there…. what are his excuses?

Posted August 9, 2013 9:19 am 


Old Yank

The greatest food critics on the planet are not chefs. The greatest movie critics are not producers or actors. The greatest designers of automobiles are not drivers but engineers. And the man who was perhaps the greatest sports caster of all time, Howard Cosell, penned the NY Times best seller, “I Never Played the Game”. The notion that the rocket scientists found inside a boxing ring are best equipped with the gray matter necessary to fully grasp all that needs to be grasped about their sport, is a joke of stunning magnitude!

Posted August 9, 2013 8:48 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Of course Larry Merchant is a FOOL. Have you ever heard him getting called out on his BS during a broadcast when he is up there with a fighter and they tell him YOU NEVER FOUGHT BEFORE SO YOU WOULDN’T UNDERSTAND. The first thing that comes out of that IDIOTS mouth is we can AGREE TO DISAGREE WITHOUT YOU PULLING RANK. Where the hell do they do that at????? STUPID; EXPERIENCE is the NUMBER ONE ATTRIBUTE one needs in order to truly give an ACCURATE INSIGHT on ANY SUBJECT!!!!! What an IDIOT!!!!!

Posted August 9, 2013 7:17 am 


Fight Scribe

Larry Merchant says people pay to see people fight…the words of a man whose only ever fight in life has being an argument with his wife. Some people stand in the pocket and trade, some people dance, some people use will, some people use skill and some have the magic to combine all four but for Merchant to question the heart of guys that actually get in the ring and box with some of the worlds best is simply giving substance to a fool that needs none. The man is an idiot that calls boxing…not boxes and there is one helluva difference.

Posted August 9, 2013 5:21 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

“Floyd had drugs to help him through and important period in his career and you make light of it?”-Nope. I make FACT of it. The FACT is that IF xylocaine can make you as GREAT as Floyd IS then everyone needs to move to Vegas and use it TOO.

Posted August 9, 2013 3:17 am 


Hidalgo

“IF xylocaine can make you as GREAT as Floyd IS then everyone needs to use it”

Did you really say this you flaming fool? Floyd had drugs to help him through and important period in his career and you make light of it? Some GOAT. A GOAT who did drugs–like Mosley, De la Hoya, Toney, Berto, Peterson, etc. etc. etc.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:16 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

PEEJ actually auditioned for the part of Raymond Babbitt in Rain Man (Dustin Hoffman’s character) but was turned down for being too convincing.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:11 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

IF xylocaine can make you as GREAT as Floyd IS then everyone needs to use it.

Posted August 9, 2013 2:08 am 


PEEJ

Floyd has been the B side once and that was against Oscar. The A and B side is about money. And once again if people are so disappointed with Floyd’s performance then why do people keep attending and purchasing tickets and PPV tickets to see him fight?

Posted August 9, 2013 2:01 am 


murderman

@i see good- perhaps your right. But manny looks lile a shot fighter at 35 n floyd at 37 looks like he can fight another 5 years. Dont get it twisted i think pac was a atg. All im asking is how much does he have left?

Posted August 9, 2013 2:00 am 


PEEJ

If you say Floyd is a PED cheat then Pac is a gauranteed PED cheat. Floyd has never used a ban substance. If whatever you say is legal in Nevada then that makes it legal. Just because a speed limit is 80 in one state and 70 in another if your in the state with the 80 mph hwy then it’s not speeding if you go 80. Considering that he has fought outside ov Vegas also and never came up dirty for anything. Pac also cherry picked too. It is very easy to break Pacs record down. So stop that. And Montoya wrote an article with opinion or theory. All hear say. I’ve heard hear say too on stuff about Pac so stop that

Posted August 9, 2013 1:59 am 


Hecdog

Hidalgo, you’re correct by saying Floyd used PEDS. The guy is a cheat! Read the article written by Gabriel Montoya (The Ped Mess) in Maxboxing and you will see that Floyd failed three tests, but were covered up by Oscar and GBP, Mayweather Promotions and a few other scandalous people. Floyd is a cheat!!!! Montoya has been after all these guys to get a comment, and no one will say a word. Floyd is a cheat!!!!

Posted August 9, 2013 1:43 am 


I see Good

A great American LARRY MERCHANT caught onto FLOUD. He threaten a 70 year old man on TV. Yeah thats a real Champion NO CLASS cherrypicker

Posted August 9, 2013 1:38 am 


I see Good

MURDERMAN Yes MANNY did NOT take the less ROAD to resistance. Manny could of CHERRYPICK like FLOYD but hes a REAL ATG. Thats WHY MANNY is LOVE so much in FLODS TURF the USA. Sad isnt it. Must be a reason dont you think?

Posted August 9, 2013 1:33 am 


I see Good

Supreme IDIOT Say what you like. A cherrypicker is a CHERRYPICKER and thats your NOY floyd.. SHOWTIME force CHERRYPICKER into this FIGHT. Showtime has CAUGHT onto Mayweathers hand pick fights. Canelo will KNOCK his PHONEUY CHERRYPICING ASS OUT Sept 14th. Watch your GREAT GOAT RUN all night like the COWARD he is. Manny said it I BELIEVE it. ALL TIME GREAT RUNNING ALL NIGHT.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:30 am 


murderman

I believe canelo is a bigger threat to floyd than pac! This kid is bigger, steonger, has speed, skill, and is hungry. I still pick may but he will def earn it. Right now if may fought pac easy ud for may maybe even k.o. pac may not beat bam bam! We have to see how much he has left. Pac’s been in so many wars n great fights! The body can only take so much! We will see!

Posted August 9, 2013 1:26 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

Brother Turbo-Hamster.. You can add Jameel McCline, Tommy Morrison, Antonio Tarver, Danny Batchelder, J’Leon Love, Fernando Vargas, Evander Holyfield (allegedly. Yeah, right lol), Shannon Briggs, and Virgil Hill to that list too.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:26 am 


Hidalgo

Web definition: “Performance-enhancing drugs are substances used by athletes to improve their performances in the sports in which they engage.”

Posted August 9, 2013 1:25 am 


Hidalgo

Thing is, when Floyd was using that PED it was a banned substance in 49 out of 50 states. Whore-slut Nevada will do anything for Floyd.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:24 am 


Hidalgo

Floyd also has a history of using PEDs, even if he did so “legally.” Xylocaine the pain numbing medicine is a PED. It helped Floyd to fight and to win fights. It enhanced his performances. He’s a former PED user. That’s a fact.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:22 am 


Hidalgo

BTW Turbo-Hamster, you forgot to put Floyd on that list. Well, the cheater’s list. He did cheat on his weight against Marquez. Cheating is cheating.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:20 am 


Hidalgo

“Mosely – American Drug Cheat…”

Amazing, isn’t it, Turbo-Hamster?

Posted August 9, 2013 1:19 am 


Hidalgo

“His legacy will end in a whimper just like the disappointed reactions from viewers after each and every one of his fights.”

Keep dreaming.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:15 am 


I see Good

Yeah the greatest at hand pick fights. Yep HE IS THE HREATEST at that. Bar NONE master of disguise he FOOL the PUBLIC for soooooooooo LONG

Posted August 9, 2013 1:14 am 


Gooch

I’m checking out. Peace.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:10 am 


Gooch

N mayweather iis actually the B-side to most of the ppvs… Have you actually heard anyone cheer for him at his fights? Ortiz,cotto, Marquez, Castillo,gatti, odh, all pro for them.. Never seen so much antipathy/dislike for some1 like may… The only emotions he incites are boos from bored and frustrated fans.. He even had to leave his hometown of Michigan cause he couldn’t sell seats there… His legacy will end in a whimper just like the disappointed reactions from viewers after each and every one of his fights.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:04 am 


PEEJ

Who is better than Floyd Gooch? Floyd is a 3 time champion winning championship belts at 130, 135, 147 and has won titles at 140 and 154. Not to mention if he beats Canelo he will be the champion at 154. That is 4 different weight classes that he was the champ. That is greatness right there.

Posted August 9, 2013 1:00 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

Edit>250,000

Posted August 9, 2013 12:58 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

250,5000 ESB ranking points awarded to Brother Gonzo for his sublime last post.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:57 am 


Gooch

*typo- ATG -not AT&T. Damn auto correct

Posted August 9, 2013 12:57 am 


Gooch

What has mayweather done to be even considered an atg? … Unused talent Does not qualify one to be a candidate.- actually putting your talent to work is what qualifies you. The guerreros, baldomirs, gattis of the world will not elevate you to AT&T.. However, defeating the Marquez’ (twice), barrera(twice), morales(twice)cotto(by ko), ledwabas, odh(by ok) , baton (by ok). That means something. No contest

Posted August 9, 2013 12:55 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

test yellow

Posted August 9, 2013 12:52 am 


Hidalgo

“I’m the best TRUTH fan and FACT fan of them all. And I will continue to BE it”

“It” was the weird little hairy beast on the Addams Family TV show. Feel free to be it.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:49 am 


PEEJ

Yes Floyd is the greatest boxer of this generation. I don’t believe he is the GOAT be he is the greatest of this generation.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:45 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I’m the best TRUTH fan and FACT fan of them all. And I will continue to BE it.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:36 am 


Jerome

Peeg, Jones refused to take B test

Posted August 9, 2013 12:32 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

And I guess you must have missed all the Flomos riding PEDerson’s tail after he got caught cheating? lol. It was all ”leave him alone he’s served his punishment. Go Lamont! Go kick that white boy Matthysse’s ass, champ.” ROFL

Posted August 9, 2013 12:31 am 


DoNavan

Im outty………. UPS calls

Posted August 9, 2013 12:30 am 


DoNavan

mundo mundo mundo;;;;;;;;;;; now here is the best lemmon fan of them all. You ,ghetto slug and peeeeegy need to all go to the canelo fight, you three goof balls would make great cheerleaders

Posted August 9, 2013 12:28 am 


Gonzo the Malevolent

My facts are perfectly straight you stupid spastic. His positive test was covered up you ignoramus, just like thousands of positive test results of US athletes between 1988-2000 were covered up by the US Olympic committee were too. The only reason we found out Jones tested positive was because Richard Hall spilled the beans in an interview.

And Jones didn’t pass anything you pathetic steroid apologist fanboy dolt. He tested positive for ANABOLIC STEROIDS, and then like every drug cheat who has been caught with their pants around their ankles, tried to blame it on an over the counter supplement or medication (Ripped Fuel), then his attorney in full damage control mode tried to blame it on a nasal decongestant instead. It was all bollocks. Jones declined to take a second test and was told to pay a paltry fine of a couple of hundred dollars and had to agree to be tested for his next two fights. He got a slap on the wrist for cheating. And don’t none of you clowns come at me with that Ripped Fuel or Androstenedione bollocks because it’s been debunked.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:26 am 


DoNavan

Peeeej……… the greatest!!!!!! hahahahaahha now that was funnier than ghetto slug’s tall tail of chit.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:24 am 


PEEJ

Also when you can give me all the reasons why Pac came up with all those excuses and why Arum came up with the out door stadium excuse then let me know.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:24 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Let DoNavan stand alone. The EXPERTS All rank Floyd at #1 P4P. Thats called being the BEST in the Sport.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:24 am 


PEEJ

Its not really hard at all when all the facts are there. Like I said before I can break down any current fighter or really any fighter of my generation and claim something about most of there fights and call them overrated. Easily done. Who is your current fighter and I will go ahead and do that for you. Just to show you how easy it is. Floyd is the greatest boxer of our generation and his resume speaks for itself. Facts are there.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:22 am 


DoNavan

Mayweather lovers, help out your boy ghetto man, he needs a little direction and help him off his knees, floyd needs a break.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:22 am 


DoNavan

Ghetto, if your a good boy this year, santa is going to allow you to sit on bumweahters lap and make a christmas wish or better yet we will all chip in and by you a t-shirt with floyd cleaning your pool in his t-whites ,,,,,,,,,,,, but only if your a good boy

Posted August 9, 2013 12:20 am 


DoNavan

Ghetto thug ,,,, c-mon bro, you have to try harder than that to sell to this crowd that i would write a Joke that tall, c-mon bro you can do better than that

Posted August 9, 2013 12:18 am 


DoNavan

Ghetto Thug I agree with you:

F lawless
L ighting
O loses 44 butt kicked (45 very soon)
Y ellow belly Punkcquiao fears u
D estroyer of pussies

M aybe the best ever
A ll the ways lead to him
Y ou all know it
W inner
E ater of cowards
A shes and dust bite his opponents
T emible for everyone
H eatred by losers
E xtremly skilled
R un away Punkcquiao, Money is here !!!

Posted August 9, 2013 12:16 am 


DoNavan

peeeeeeeeeeeeeeej i gotta hand it to you bro, you try so hard to make dumpwether the man. YOu try so hard to sell a rock and call it 24k gym. Nice try broheme. No deal

Posted August 9, 2013 12:15 am 


DoNavan

Canelo vs Mayweather lemmon collector vs cherry collector make your bets gentlemen. I will give Canelo some love on his last fight, was a tough opponent and a draw at best. Now, Maywether thats a differnt story. Mayweather best opponent he ever faced was Castillo and sad to say he lost that. Mayweather’s only undefeated fighers he faced over his entire career was hatton and Corrales rest his soul. Ok thats it thats Maywether’s career. weak weak weak weak

Posted August 9, 2013 12:07 am 


DoNavan

Ghetto Thug;;; i want what ever you dried out in your oven. Thats some funny stuff you belted out bro. hahahahahah Mayweather is the chump of boxing and that record you gave wind too, is the best Joke today.

Posted August 9, 2013 12:04 am 


Tyrone Jones

True, but then he aint no Thunderbird either

Posted August 8, 2013 11:39 pm 


Ghetto Thug

F lawless
L ighting
O loses 44 butt kicked (45 very soon)
Y ellow belly Punkcquiao fears u
D estroyer of pussies

M aybe the best ever
A ll the ways lead to him
Y ou all know it
W inner
E ater of cowards
A shes and dust bite his opponents
T emible for everyone
H eatred by losers
E xtremly skilled
R un away Punkcquiao, Money is here !!!

Posted August 8, 2013 11:38 pm 


PEEJ

Funny how those test never came out till years later. Funny how he passed his B sample which is the reason why those test never came out. Yes Roy is my all time favorite fighter but once again get your facts dude.

Posted August 8, 2013 11:22 pm 


PEEJ

Last I checked Floyd won 5 espys. Something that the fans actually vote on

Posted August 8, 2013 11:21 pm 


BLUESMAN

Pacquiao beat fighters who were WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY past their prime. For those of you who want to talk about Floyd “cherry-picking” opponents, you should look at Pacquiao first. :-D

Posted August 8, 2013 11:04 pm 


Gonzo the Malevolent

Remind us how much you love Jones again, PEEJ. ”Roy’s my boy. I hated Tarver for beating him. Roy’s my favourite fighter of all time” ROFL.

”But it was Ripped Fuel I tell thee. It was Andro! Or was it was a nasal decongestant blah blah blah”

DIE CNUT AND DIE NOW.

Posted August 8, 2013 10:49 pm 


Gonzo the Malevolent

Edit> run rings

Posted August 8, 2013 10:44 pm 


Gooch

Last I checked pac was voted fighter of the decade by Espn. The same decade were Floyd was suppose to be in his prime…. Last I checked PAC has won 3 fighter of year award by the ring.; Floyd has only 2 … Last I checked PAC has beaten many more HOF fighters then may weather….bottom line is results – not excuses from may fans saying,” tsyiu/ Freitas/casamayor were in different networks… Margarito didn’t deserve it… P. Williams moved up” etc, Excuses and reasons are the same…. PAC wins this discussion by actually fighting other boxers.

Posted August 8, 2013 10:42 pm 


pacmanDgreat

floyd is not a chicken his a henny

Posted August 8, 2013 10:27 pm 


BLUESMAN

Pacquiao IS a PRODUCT I would NEVER buy! There’s only ONE BLUESMAN. :-p

Posted August 8, 2013 10:24 pm 


PEEJ

You can’t even name who we so called root for. And I could care less who other folks rooted for. Let me know the cheats that I rooted for. Also your boxing knowledge is thin guy. Step up your game. It is rather easy to prove anything and everything you post on here as garbage. I know because like I have said before you just retort to insults. So you can keep those going, I will not be responding to any of your weak insulting comments anymore. Keep on being that keyboard warrior.

Posted August 8, 2013 10:20 pm 


PEEJ

Yes it is a bit hypocritical but the problems with Pacs catchweights that I had was that he was the one challenging the heavier fighters and having them come down in weight while Canelo is challening him and making Floyd come up in weight. I am not a fan of catchweights. But also if this is a close fight it sets up another mega fight for a rematch at 154. Floyd challenged Oscar and moved up to 154, he challenged Cotto and moved up to 154. Canelo challenged him and made him come up. But also lets not forget it was Canelo who came up with the 152lb catch weight.

Posted August 8, 2013 9:18 pm 


Junio

Hecdog:

Manny is more of a pure fighter than pure boxer. Floyd is more of a pure boxer than a pure fighter but he does show that capability when he wants to…especially when he gets hurt. It’s just Manny’s intensity is rare.

Few fighters have ever fought like Manny. I’m not talking about “boxing” a guy but just straight out wanted to batter a guy into submission…although at one point he did seem a bit reluctant at times.

It was amazing to watch during those peak years. Both of them were.

Posted August 8, 2013 9:01 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

LMAO @ Ghetto Thug…

Posted August 8, 2013 9:00 pm 


Supreme Court

I see Good:
May be you are a mutant from Chicago Guy…
You can say what ever you want to say about Mayweather,
It will not change one iota on his legacy!
You roam around ESB with your rattle snake venom;
You wander about like a starving hyena, foaming and spreading germs…
Idiots like you had spent decades of their lives attempting to discredit Ali….In vain
The discussion about Mayweather is now whether or not he is the Greatest of All Times.
Framed like that, my dear esb moron, it is a win-win situation already for Mayweather!
And remember, idiot, history is not written in the present tense….
By the time Mayweather is celebrated for his contribution to boxing, you will be devastated by many geriatric ailments….
Go ahead fighting windmills ….
ESB Sarah Palin!

( Un autre imbecile a la cervelle de mouton!)

Posted August 8, 2013 8:52 pm 


Junio

Eh. That was my post. Clicked before the name was filled in.

Anyway, it’s done. It all happened. both were at fault for one of the biggest fights in history not coming through.

The first time around was the best time to get it done. After that, things change because situations change.

Such is life.

boxing is bigger than Pac and Floyd.

Posted August 8, 2013 8:51 pm 


Anonymous

Rome:

You’re exaggerated the demands of Floyd. He just wanted the testers to be allowed to do their jobs. Nothing else. The one mistake he made was giving in to negotiating testing cut-offs for Pac just to make the fight. He shouldn’t have even been allowed to do that. I wonder if the testers even knew and would have agreed anyway.

Floyd did however give a time table when the deal would be off and then it would be off the table for good. It past the time and the whole deal when down the tubes.

For Pac, I guess there would be some concern from his part because he may not have been educated on the testing procedures.

Floyd was doing it so he should have been OK with it. But…everybody is different.

Maybe Nonito Donaire going through with it as well as others convinced hi there is no harm done.

It’s easier for some to listen and see from fighters experience then Scientists telling you there is no harm because the blood amount is so little.

Posted August 8, 2013 8:48 pm 


Ghetto Thug

F lawless
L ighting
O loses 44 butt kicked (45 very soon)
Y ellow belly Punkcquiao fears u
D estroyer of pussies

M aybe the best ever
A ll the ways lead to him
Y ou all know it
W inner
E ater of cowards
A shes and dust bite his opponents
T emible for everyone
H eatred by losers
E xtremly skilled
R un away Punkquiao, Money is here !!!

Posted August 8, 2013 8:43 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Rome….. damn!! Pactards blame Money for the fight not happening when it was Punkcquiao who ran away, tell me, how was Money suppoused to fight Punkcquiao if he didnt want to?? how does it make him guilty??

Pactards are lame.

Posted August 8, 2013 8:38 pm 


I see Good

PEEJ Thats WHY Mayweather DONT FIGHT THE BEST in their PRIME. Hand pick fights KEEPS a perfect RECORD. I hope Canelo KNOCKS this PHONEY hand cherrypicker out.

Posted August 8, 2013 8:31 pm 


te tumbo

TARK, self-imposed ignorance is not an excuse. bottomline, Shane SHOULD’ve known and had the option of verifying the legality of subtances with an independent medical opinion PRIOR to using them Orrr simply checked with the sanctioning bodies themselves. “unwitting” or not, Shane cheated through the use of PEDs for who knows how long.

Posted August 8, 2013 7:55 pm 


anonymous

228 comments………..seriously, I think most of you morons don’t even watch boxing, you just like talking about Mayweather and Pacquiao. ESB, you should know better than even continuing to publish this crap,

Posted August 8, 2013 7:47 pm 


Gonzo the Malevolent

Edit>Your lies

Posted August 8, 2013 7:41 pm 


PEEJ

Ah ok. Well I didn’t know that. I just thought that I read somewhere that they dropped it.

Posted August 8, 2013 7:34 pm 


TARK

Right… I think he dropped it for an undiscloseable settlement. We pay you to drop the suit if you don’t disclose anything. Like how much the settlement was.

Posted August 8, 2013 7:15 pm 


PEEJ

Tark actually Mosley dropped that case I believe. Now I am not 100% but I am pretty sure he dropped it.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:59 pm 


TARK

Mosley wasn’t caught cheating or given a suspension… Mosley never tested positive but admitted he may have unwittingly absorbed some sort of illegal substance when he allowed balco to give him nutrition advice and supplements. He sued Conte and Balco. I believe he got a settlement.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:57 pm 


PEEJ

Rome, Floyd had nothing to do with the dates that the test where done. That is the point of random drug testing. And Berto tested positive before his fight also. And he did have an issue with it because he wanted to have a cut off date and he never agree to the up to the fight random testing. His team said that over and over again. So you are misinformed

Posted August 8, 2013 6:54 pm 


I see Good

ROME you the MAN you the MAN.. Well said Bro. YOU SEE GOOD TOO!!!!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 6:52 pm 


Rome

Peej, Pac said he had no problem doing a full test before and after the fight. Floyd wanted blood drawn every week which was stupid. Everyone knew floyd wanted no part of pacman and the entire steroid ordeal proves that those who use lose their fights, do the math on those who actually tested positive after their fights, hence Fernando Vargas and Berto just for a short example: even so, didnt bother Oscar who KOed Vargas……….. Floyd wore a skirt and gave up his man card.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:40 pm 


I see Good

Mosely is BROKE his EX wife ASS RAPE him. Now Mosely is LIVING off his name a gate keeper. Hes taken some beatings as of late he should retire before he gets brain damage. Marquez, Canelo, Duran, and zab Juhda my favorite fighters. Of all time

Posted August 8, 2013 6:37 pm 


PEEJ

If Floyd ran from Pac then why didn’t Pac just agree to the drug test to call Floyds bluff? Why did he come up with a bunch of lame excuses? And finally when they so called did agree to it, why did Arum turn it down saying there needed to be an out door stadium built? Nobody can really answer any of those questions because all there excuses where just that, excuses on why not to fight Floyd. Arum is a greedy old man but there is one thing he does know and that is boxing and he knew Floyd would of beat Pac. For someone who says they see good should be able to see that.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:32 pm 


I see Good

Te Tumbo Yes BROTHER how SWEET IT IS.. Finally MARQUEZ got his REVENGE in SPADES!!!!! No JUDGES could ROB him this time. Viva Mexico

Posted August 8, 2013 6:32 pm 


PEEJ

As a matter of fact he admitted to it against his fight with Oscar in the rematch and that win still stands as a win

Posted August 8, 2013 6:30 pm 


PEEJ

Mosley was never suspended for PED use. He just admited to in to a grand jury

Posted August 8, 2013 6:29 pm 


I see Good

HecDog Yes Manny was a WRECKING MACHINE.. MARQUEZ had his NUMBER. You CAN NOT tell me MANNY won those first 3 fights. Oh well MARQUEZ finally laid things to rest. in the 4th fight. It happens that way in BOXING.. MANNY RAN threw people like a HOT knife threw butter. But Marquez had his number for some CRAZY reason. STYLES make fights and the WAY Manny fought like a WRECKING BALL his STYLE would of given CHERRYPICKER FITS. Because floyd has a HARD TIME fighting a GUY that keeps comming throwing PUNCHES from ALL ANGLES. Never letting up. This is WHY floyd AVOIDED PACMAN. PACMAN beat BRADLY I watch the fight on TV. PACMAN was ROB, Now Pacman knows how MARQEZ felt like in his matches with him. Touche what comes around goes around

Posted August 8, 2013 6:26 pm 


I see Good

HecDog danny Garcia is fighting Mathyeese. this is WHAT I am talking about. 2 great fighters in their PRIME. going at it. this is a REAL BARN BURNER… this is WHAT Cherrypicking floyd Mayweather AVOIDED his WHOLE CARRER. RAN from PACMAN. Paul Williams COTTO in his PRIME also.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:15 pm 


PEEJ

And everybody knows he only had a left hand for the longest time. Everybody noticed that. Roach was the one that helped bring his right hand a long. That is why folks said he lost against Morales and struggled against Marquez the first time because he was left hand crazy. Morales just clearly out boxed him. Marquez could time him. Lets not forget he wanted to quit against Agapit Sanchez also. He was looking to the ref for any way out that fight.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:04 pm 


PEEJ

Come on now, he didn’t destroy Marquez 3 times. I thought he beat him by a slim margin the first 2 times, Pac got out boxed the 3rd time only to be robbed by the judges and got KOd the 4th time. Got to be real with that.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:02 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is a complete boxer/fighter. He has used his blazing hand speed along with the best feet in boxing as well as his perfect timing and intellegence when he destroyed Barrera, Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto, Marquez (3 times) and Morales. No one in boxing had the speed of hand and foot that Manny had during this time. No one carried his brutal power. Manny boxed, countered, and fought better than anyone during his suprme reign of terror. People don’t realize that Manny had such an arsenal at his disposal. His in and out movement in the ring was silent masterpiece that many fans didn’t notice. The electrfying cobra like feints mesmerized his opponents as well as the referee. His timing and ability to land the big punch flush was artistic. Manny Pacquiao beat every kind of boxing style thrown at him. It’s time Manny Pacquiao haters give this man his just due. No one, and I mean no one wins 8 different division titles in any sport ever created. That alone separates him from any other boxer in history. The cover of Time magazine separates him from any boxer in history. The congressman of the Philippines also separates him from any boxer in history. And what separates Manny Pacquiao from others that pretend to be great is the courage to never have ducked or ran away from anyone. Simply stated, Manny fought them all and beat them all.

Posted August 8, 2013 5:46 pm 


PEEJ

It is hard to claim who is better than who from Pacs record and Floyds record. I can go down the list of both and claim to say who I think it better. I mean look how Pac handled Barrera but had much much trouble with Marquez and Floyd handled Marquez with ease. So then you can say Marquez is better than Barrera and all of Pacs wins agains Barrera are suspect to some people. Saying Guerrero is not as good as Bradley is hard to say also. Werent they supposed to fight at one time or at least discussing it? That would be one hell of a good fight between them two

Posted August 8, 2013 5:43 pm 


TARK

If Cheato only beat Mosley his next fight would have been Floyd… Beating Mosley without cheating is something he couldn’t have accomplished in 1000 years. Anymore than he ever could have beaten Cotto without cheating.

Posted August 8, 2013 5:41 pm 


Mag

I thinks it disrespectful to call any fighter that laces them up for a living a chicken… People keep bringing up Margarito.. Since when does fighting Cheato measure someone’s greatness?? He’s not going in the hall of fame. I don’t even think he was ever ranked on the P4P list. Who did he ever beat besides Cotto the 1st time anyway lol… Pac could have got his ass whooped $40 mill but turned it down to get KO’d for less lol….

Posted August 8, 2013 5:05 pm 


TARK

A post-Cheato Cotto beat Clottey… Cotto even decked Clottey with a jab. You never saw Pacquiao deck Clottey with anything.

Bradley came out the worst for wear after his last fight… Tim suffered one HELL of a lot more damage than Pacquiao ever imposed on him.

Pacquiao fought Tim when Tim had 2 sprained ankles and could barely move… Pac couldn’t hurt Tim. Plus he lost the decision.

Posted August 8, 2013 5:05 pm 


Rem

People can have their opinions about who’s better Pac or Floyd butit is a fact that Pac has fought better fighters so to insinuate that Pac is a hype job or a careful matchmaker is just silly. Bradley and Clottey are better than Ortiz and Guerrero to name just a couple.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:55 pm 


moonshineman

Bak bak bak bak bak bak bak

Posted August 8, 2013 4:45 pm 


Anonymous

in these times a fighter can win championships in multiple divisions without fighting the best in each division, mainly because there’s so many divisions and so many champions, plus a lot of media exposure, when in the past the money was only in titles and not so much media exposure, plus only one champion per division, so it’s basically the era that we’re in right now where you fight where the money is no matter who the best is at the time…..in some instances second best

Posted August 8, 2013 4:43 pm 


TARK

Floyd didn’t duck anyone… He fought the guys who where there at time. You fight a guy when he’s hot … Not like Ray Robinson, who fought Ralph Jones only after Jones lost 5 fights in a row, but then got his ass kicked anyway … Not like De La Hoya when he finally rematched Shane Mosley after 6 years, at a time Mosley went winless in his last 3 fights, but then got his ass kicked anyway.

Flory fought Mosley after he destroyed Cheato Rito.

Canelo after he whipped Trout.

Marquez after he obliterated Juan Diaz.

Oscar after he won the 154 title by smashing Mayorga out early.

Baldomir after he whipped Judah to take the Lineal 147 crown.

Corrales after he scored an impressive string of victories going 33-0.

Hatton after he scored an impressive string of vicrtories going 43-0.

That’s the way you do it.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:33 pm 


Delk1

IF YOU ARE STILL SAYING FLOYD DUCK COTTO AND DELA HOYA WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG, than Iam sorry to say that you are FOOLS. There is LIVE video of Mayweather calling out each of these guys on utube. All you have to do is google it, you will find it. But you know what? You haters want do that, because if you did you want have anything to Bit–h at Money about, other than he beat up his girl friend. LOL Hate on Haters. I SEE YA!! LOL

Posted August 8, 2013 3:54 pm 


Delk1

ARE ANY OF YOU GUYS A FOOL?

Posted August 8, 2013 3:50 pm 


te tumbo

Floyd ducking Margarito was dissapointing but it was all about greed not any fear of losing to Margarito. i dinged Floyd plenty but also conceded that Mayweather must be favored to defeat even the steamrolling Margarito. Pacquiao* avoids all matchups that include a legitimate risk of losing. even his choice of Rios is carefully calculated exploit Rios’ notoriety while betting on Pacquiao’s* remaining ability to at-least avoid a loss, if not earn a win. however, Team Pacquiao* has neglected to recalibrate their MISmatching equations, which are based on an entire crop of vulnerable Names, B-list champions, and limited contenders. that orchard has been plucked bare and not coincidentally, Pacquiao* is struggling v. equally-prime and legitimate champs and contenders. as long as Rios remains focused on avoiding Manny’s* Left, he’ll be the latest to pluck a struggling pok-pok-pok-PACquiao* of his remaining PPV plumage.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:49 pm 


Delk1

A FOOL DENIES THE TRUTH!!

Posted August 8, 2013 3:49 pm 


Delk1

IF you were a trainer, Who would you want to be working for Mayweather, Pacman, Cotto Or Margorita (the man you say Mayweathe Ducked)? LOL I tell you what, GIVE ME A JOB WITH THE MONEY TEAM.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:46 pm 


Delk1

Some of you guys may know a lot about boxing. BUT you guys don’t know Sh-t about the BUSINESS OF BOXING. LEARN that and sat yourselves free from all of the Mayweather Hate. LOL

Posted August 8, 2013 3:44 pm 


Delk1

big rubben Dela Hoya was a 144 pounds fresh off an IV before the PAC fight. What the hell are you talking about. Emanual Steward said that Delahoya was weight drained. LOL You guys are full of it. Money fought Dela Hoya at 154, where Dela Hoya was comfortable.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:42 pm 


te tumbo

“not all fighters fight anyone and everyone . . .” Mayweather, Mares, Ward, Mikey Garcia, Alvarez, Marquez, to name a few are active fighters who seek their primary rivals and duck NObody. particularly not their primary P4P rivalS. Pacquiao* is the only boxing “superstar” who can confirm ANY matchup he wants except for the one’s that fight-fans want to watch most. Btw, Pacquiao* didn’t “give” Marquez squat. Marquez made himself unvavoidable over 8 years of eliminating rivals and unifying weight-classes. Pacquiao* almost had no choice. besides, he obviously believed he no longer had anything to fear from a slow, fading, ringworn, and 39-year-old Marquez (lol) . . . how sweet it is.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:38 pm 


PEEJ

Gonzo you must not be able to read. Many people on here know and I have stated numerous times that I think Pac is clean and has never been on anything. Your just to busy insulting me to actually read what I post. Or you can’t read. I haven’t really figured that one out yet. Maybe that’s where all your hatred comes from. Your upset because you never learned to read. It’s ok, there are many people who can’t read. If you need help I can try and teach you

Posted August 8, 2013 3:37 pm 


big rubben

Weather winning or losing the canelo fight I say he is forced to get into another big fight cause another guerrero type of fighter is not gonna look too good on ppv buys.

Posted August 8, 2013 3:16 pm 


Titopa

Floyd never fought Margarito, we all know why, all risk and no reward…instead he fought someone with arguably the same risk but with a better/bigger reward. What’s the difference? There isn’t one.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:52 pm 


Titopa

te tumbo – C’mon bro! EVERY fighter is managed and promoted to be exactly that, a STAR, not all fighters fight anyone and everyone, Floyd is no different….they’re ALL guilty of that at some point.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:51 pm 


Titopa

I always wondered why the say “chicken” when referring to being scared, chickens are NOT timid/scared AT ALL, on the contrary, those things can be vicious.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:50 pm 


te tumbo

this fight-fan has never insinuated that Manny* is juicing. instead, i’ve always suspected that he’s a F’N HYPE-JOB who has willingly accepted his role in the B-movie Script that Arum prepared and produced for him. brilliant MISmatchmaking and careful management is what brought Manny* to the threshold of promotional if not actual ring-reatness. unfortunately for Pacquiao*, Marquez was waiting and SOCKED him right into orbit. i’m anticipating that Rios will expose what’s left of Manny* and punch his ticket to dreamland once again:

And Lord, I just dropped in to see
What condition my condition was in

Lord, Lord, Lord
What condition my condition was in.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:49 pm 


toosalty

Peej right dude bring them the truth!!!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 2:47 pm 


big rubben

For me floyd is a smart fighter who chooses his oponents wisely.
You cannot call yourself the best fighter if you dont fight the other best fighter out there. Yes he beat dlh (with a split D) well look what pac did to him. Yes I know he duck margo well guess what pac made him blind. But floyd ko hatton? Well over here it only took 2 rounds. Just his resume alone and the quality of fighters he had faced and how he beat them takes balls. Not mentioning the Trilogies going on with the mexican fighters and being champion in 6 or 7 division hell I dont even remember. Yet people prop floyd like he is the great boxer who would ever be. Way to go people…

Posted August 8, 2013 2:44 pm 


Delk1

Mayweather is at the top despite being OLD AND SHOP WORN. LMAO!!

Posted August 8, 2013 2:41 pm 


Delk1

I will say this again. IT IS TOO LATE TO HATE. If FLoyd lose his next 4 fights, it want mean a damm thing. HE IS OLD AND SHOP WORN, right Haters??? So here is my question once again. WHY IS CANELO PICKING ON SMALL FIGHTERS. Why don’t Canelo fight Ward, they weight the same dam near. CANELO IS A CHERRYPICKER, LOOKING FOR THE PATH OF LEAST RESISITENCE. To bad he want find it in Mayweather. He picked the wrong Shop worn OLD fighter this time. LOL
Mayweather is fighting another undefeated Champion and Mayweather is OLDER than PAC. WHo is Pac fighting? ANOTHER FIGHTER COMING OFF A DEVISTATING LOST! LMAO You guys should be ashamed of even mentioning PACROID. LOL HEY PEEJ keep these clowns in check. They have no knowledge about boxing, and they all sound like each other. I wouldnt be suprised if all of you Mayweather haters are just ONE PERSON claiming to be many. LMAO.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:16 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t think he is the GOAT but he is the greatest boxer of this generation

Posted August 8, 2013 1:56 pm 


Hidalgo

“Whether u like him or not, a true boxing fan will recognise that you are watching probably the greatest boxing talent ever! ” No, Mayweather is not the greatest boxing talent ever. What he is is the greatest marketing product ever.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:28 pm 


Tnt

Whether u like him or not, a true boxing fan will recognise that you are watching probably the greatest boxing talent ever! Appreciate him while he is here. When he is gone it will be a long time until we see someone of his calibre. Boxing fans are too limited in measuring the greatest of all time. Floyd has true pedigree. A long successful track record as a junior. He is hands down the greatest ever. I don’t think he has to fight everyone to do that. Tbh every time he beats someone another name is thrown out in the hope that he will be defeated. Mayweather is special. Broner is not in the same league at all and I like Broner.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:00 pm 


PEEJ

Would of been nice if Pac agreed to the testing to. Also someone brought up that they fired Ariza now that they are doing the random testing. That also raises eye browse. lol

Posted August 8, 2013 12:32 pm 


???

he looks like a chicken to me

Posted August 8, 2013 12:24 pm 


toosalty

TJ

Agree with you

Posted August 8, 2013 12:17 pm 


huckster

caneholies is a safe fight????? give the sheep some logic. come on. Floyd needs some credit. He is no chicken. Pacman got KOed. Give him some credit, too. He owned and slept on it. Pacman ain’t no chicken either. They roosters. They are two roosters who have not gotten in the right pen. probably, never happen.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:17 pm 


TJ

te tumbo
TARK, there is no such thing as a good boxer without a jab and outboxing Hatton proves nothing in terms of assessing boxing skills. Paccquiao’s* primary talent is his ability to turn boxing matches into punching contests. otherwise, the boxer who remains poised and disciplined will find plenty of openings to exploit. once again, Avoid Manny’s* power-Left and any talented and competent boxer can outbox Pacquiao*, e.g., Morales. “Terible” was a formidable puncher in his own right but it was his boxing skills that defeated Pacquiao*. conversely, it was his punching instincts that almost cost him the bout in the final round. Hell(?!), even Barrera was able to neutralize Manny* in their boring rematch when he discarded the option of going toe-to-toe and assumed a defensive posture resulting in a typically bewildered Pacquiao* hopping around the perimeter unable to penetrate Barrera’s defense. Manny* is a puncher and a fighter like Rios NOT a boxer-puncher and technician like Marquez. not even #1 P4P Mayweather or #2 Ward are Both(?!). only clueless fanboys like HecDog believe that.

ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 12:14 pm 


RAY GORDON REID

IM MOT A floyd mayweather fan

Posted August 8, 2013 12:11 pm 


Zjerr

Mayweather is CHICKEN period. He ran from Pacman when Pacman was blowing away big guys like Oscar, Margarito and Clottey. Mayweather was scared even his good friend at the time 50 cent said so.
By the way this is not the first time Mayweather has run from a fight. Remember when he decided to retire instead of giving ODH a rematch. Oscar had figured him out and would have beat him in a rematch and Mayweather knew it. The same way Oscar figured out Mosley in their rematch and beat him convincingly IMO even though he didn’t get the decision. Mayweather could have made more money than any previous fight yet he choose to retire until Oscar faded away. The funny thing is I think Mayweather would beat Pacman if they ever fight.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:09 pm 


PEEJ

People keep asying who would they pay for when throwing Floyd in the equation and saying he is a safety first fighter. Yall do realize that he is the highest paid athlete and sells more PPVs than anybody right. People are obviously picking Floyd. So all that nonsense needs to stop about who would people rather watch. Yes your gonna say well they want to see him lose, OK that is fine but they are still helping his bank account, helping him break records which of course supports the fact that people pay to see him

Posted August 8, 2013 12:01 pm 


toosalty

a Mexican boxer RIOS just told yall FM does not run, who has he ranned from, he stays in the pocket, who has he ran from no one he stayed in the pocket with some serious bangers

Posted August 8, 2013 12:00 pm 


toosalty

ERECTAMUNDO

Man what are you talking about? Tell me other than PAC who is relevant that FM should have fought WHO all yall say the same stuff, Who Pwill why fight him for you right, Margarito who did he beat to get a shot. IM still asking who did he not fight.

Posted August 8, 2013 11:57 am 


ERECTAMUNDO

Wlad and floyd shouldnt even be in the same sentence. Floyd doesnt take chances, he DOES NOT fight everyone…. thats the difference. Lots of boxers stick to ” running ” * boxing BUT they FACE EVERYONE. FLOYD DOES NOT. He always picks his fighters, SAFE FIGHTS. Thats why he is called a chicken.

Posted August 8, 2013 11:52 am 


toosalty

WHICH ONE WOULD YALL SO CALLED FANS CHOOSE?
If you had to choose to take a test, which one would you choose, a test that is fill in the blank, or a multiple choice test. FM and VK are the fill in the blank test, where you have to really study and prepare in order to pass the test or make a decent grade. Then you have the multiple choice test, these are the come forward boxers that only know 1 way, cant wont and dont know how to adjust. These are prize fighters yes, boxers to a certain degree. Just like Virgil Hunter said, if if were your son which method of training would you want him to be taught, Margarito, or FM hit and not be hit. SEEM LIKE A VERY EASY CHOICE ONLY A FOOL WOULD CHOOSE A MAGARITO STYLE. Margarito didnt have a choice, he play the hand that he was givin

Posted August 8, 2013 11:50 am 


thetruth101

Boxing is a matter of what you like to watch. Mayweather is a defensive fighter. He’s not the blood and guts fighter that has Knock Out power in both hands. He’s a slick boxer that moves, moves, moves and hits, then moves and moves some more. What turns people off is he comes off like a destroyer which he is not. Some people like the bragging and running around. Most blue collar fight fans are not going to pay to watch that. They want to see a fight. Mayweather is about the Money! Without Canelo on that poster his pay per view will be disappointing like the Guerrero fight. Mayweather needs to make Showtime there money.

Posted August 8, 2013 11:40 am 


beegral

Ray Gordon Reid got it right. Hey Ray, whaddaya say?? Right on Ray.

Posted August 8, 2013 11:38 am 


beegral

White Boys have WLAD !!! nuff said

Posted August 8, 2013 11:36 am 


te tumbo

TARK, there is no such thing as a good boxer without a jab and outboxing Hatton proves nothing in terms of assessing boxing skills. Paccquiao’s* primary talent is his ability to turn boxing matches into punching contests. otherwise, the boxer who remains poised and disciplined will find plenty of openings to exploit. once again, Avoid Manny’s* power-Left and any talented and competent boxer can outbox Pacquiao*, e.g., Morales. “Terible” was a formidable puncher in his own right but it was his boxing skills that defeated Pacquiao*. conversely, it was his punching instincts that almost cost him the bout in the final round. Hell(?!), even Barrera was able to neutralize Manny* in their boring rematch when he discarded the option of going toe-to-toe and assumed a defensive posture resulting in a typically bewildered Pacquiao* hopping around the perimeter unable to penetrate Barrera’s defense. Manny* is a puncher and a fighter like Rios NOT a boxer-puncher and technician like Marquez. not even #1 P4P Mayweather or #2 Ward are Both(?!). only clueless fanboys like HecDog believe that.

Posted August 8, 2013 10:29 am 


PEEJ

On our planet. He is the best fighter of our generation. Bar none

Posted August 8, 2013 9:00 am 


whatupdoe

Mayweather’s fights always do well numerically. this lame writer nor Larry merchant cannot convince people to stop watching what they love to see. which is the most technically sound boxer today. sure I love ko artists, but i’m still blown away how guys like Rigo and Mayweather completely dominate and punish very good fighters for 12 rounds. you guys don’t have to like those types of fighters. it’s ok dudes.

Posted August 8, 2013 8:56 am 


Supreme Court

Hey Anonymouse,
You can impersonate the Supreme Court all you want, you don’t have the brain to be successful…
The Highest Court is unique….
Remember this:
” The ship follows the shepherd…”

Posted August 8, 2013 8:29 am 


Adrian

de lima says FMJ’s the best fighter of our generation, he has the best defense in boxing the world has ever seen and has made more than one world class boxer look amateurish. For a boxer to have never been beaten in his career is amazing, even more so when you look at the fighters he has fought. His career does say a lot and as arrogant as the man is, he can and has backed that arrogance up, period.

on what planet ?????? bwahahaha !!!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 8:17 am 


TJ

Rome
Peej, well I myself am not a Floyd hater. He is a good fighter, a smart fighter- he just placed himself in a bad light with his mouth and the poor opposition he wanted to pass as hall of fame material. Too, he should had just got in the ring with Pac 6 years ago and proved he was worthy of the great super fights that sit in history today.

ROME , six years ago PAC was preparing for his 2008 rematch with DINAMITA….

These guys weren’t on either’s radar…. FLOYD was taking on OSCAR DE LA HOYA…

PAc then took on DAVID DIAZ (paper Lightweight champion, who should have lost his title on points to ERIK MORALES) before, he himself announced himself on the Welterweight scene in Dec 2008 smashing OSCAR DE LA HOYA to pieces….

Then and only then did people mention him and Floyd duking it out.

Hope that straightens your question out!

Posted August 8, 2013 7:29 am 


Supreme Court

What a coincidence!
Ariza, Manny Chemical Pacquiao’s “physical conditioner” is fired at the exact moment Pacquiao agrees and signs for Random Blood Testing, a test he had consistently turned down for years!
Wow!
The World will witness in November, the true Pacquiao, the fighter who scammed the world.
You will see a Pacquiao gassing out… on his bike
You will see a Pacquiao saving energy, fighting 1 min out of 3…
You might see another brutal decapitation…
The key to the fight will be whether Rios is drained or not. Rios is Bigger and he is no weight-drained Margarito …..

“Le Monde assistera en direct a la deuxieme decapitation de l’escroc du siecle: Manny Pacquiao.”

Posted August 8, 2013 7:24 am 


RAY GORDON REID

floyd ajerk

Posted August 8, 2013 6:56 am 


boxing barlow

I seriously rate Floyds as an all time greta. The ONLY criticism I could make of him is that there has only been very few occasions where he has fought the guy we’ve really wanted to see him fight. Hatton is maybe the only one he really caught at the right time (although some would argue it should have happened earlier at light welter). Cotto should have happened years earlier. Maririto never happened. Judah should have happened earlier. the list goes on. But really highlights this is the fact he didnt make the Pacman fight happen. Alvarez is a good way to try and put things right though.

Posted August 8, 2013 6:07 am 


big moe

Any idiot bringing up margarito needs to be kicked. He hasnt been on the a side of any equation and only God knows how long he was cheating. He just got caught in the Mosley fight. Its funny that after the plaster incident, margs was 1-3 in major fights. and people wanted floyd to fight this cheater?

And just for the record u floyd haters, floyd was going to fight margs in 06 but he wanted a guarantee of 10 million to fight cotti and hatton. Arum only wanted to give floyd seven. This why floyd left top rank. It has paid off too. Hate on haters. Undefeated. I know that word drives haters nuts.

Posted August 8, 2013 5:03 am 


zera

at the end of the day, us boxing fans got our asses whooped, we never got to see the single fight everyone wants. period. pac fan or may fan. nuff said. blame those 2, they are all to blame, and add arums ass in the list, he’s the biggest wall, most corrupt, and the saddest thing that graced boxing. nuff said.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:35 am 


scorpio2383

I repeat if you Flomos want to go against my argument on Floyd, then you should jerk off for him and I would not care, so I can leave your hero alone.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:34 am 


scorpio2383

BTW, CurlyQ is right, Floyd should worry if any fans called him justin bieber because he has a fake accomplishment between the De La Hoya and Canelo fight.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:28 am 


scorpio2383

When me and us boxing fans ever say negative things about floyd, his flomos would freak out. After the De La Hoya fight, Floyd started answering for money not for us by cherrypicking his opponents who he can easily beat and not fighting his real threat. I would not be surprise if Floyd really chicken out a few days before fighting Canelo like Haye chicken out against Wlad two years before they actually fought. You Flomos would have an excuse to defend your hero with many lies on us because people like me say negative things about him. For Floyd fighting between the De La Hoya’s and Canelo’s are fixed fights. The truth is Floyd is an embarrassment to boxing that you Flomos don’t know and us real boxing fans do know including outside the ring. Don’t use his fake undefeated record and money that I don’t care about. If you Flomos want to go against my argument along with other boxing fans’ opinion against your hero, then you should have sex with Floyd in the back, so we can leave your hero alone.

Posted August 8, 2013 4:20 am 


Ghetto Thug

Rome calm down homie, Im a flight dispatcher and I had to go to attend my plane which had already left and Im back to keep schooling suckas….. Pac lost his BIGGEST payday for his fear for needles (I think needles is Floyd´s name in filipino) and now he is asking for it against Rios LMAO….. A regular counterpuncher like JMM embarrased Pac 3 times and left his butt pointing upwards in their last outing, if he would have had enough balls and fought Money he would been schooled badly and would not be necesary a second fight just like JMM, BTW anybody knows how is being developed the outdoor arena that Bum Arum was going to build for this fight?? LMAO x a googleplex

Posted August 8, 2013 3:16 am 


Anonymous

Pacquioa legacy is in question because of all of the catch weight fights. How good was he really, his contracts were littered with catch weight and rehydration clauses. So, my question is could he have beaten all of those fighters on even terms. Barrera and Morelas had taken most of the fight out of each other before Pacquioa. But, I wouldn’t say the versions that Pacquioa beat were washed up.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:54 am 


Urone2

For all of the detractor or should I say haters Mayweather has fought everyone his detractors said he wouldn’t fight and the guys pasquioa ran from. Once you guy’s decide to wake up and realize that Mayweather hasn’t been fighting Arum fighters since he left Arum. Everything will become clear that is unless you just want to be stuck on stupid.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:44 am 


elmatador

Yup floyd ain’t no chicken he’s a b*tch

Posted August 8, 2013 2:36 am 


Rome

Rome is out. late

Posted August 8, 2013 2:35 am 


Rome

Peej, well I myself am not a Floyd hater. He is a good fighter, a smart fighter- he just placed himself in a bad light with his mouth and the poor opposition he wanted to pass as hall of fame material. Too, he should had just got in the ring with Pac 6 years ago and proved he was worthy of the great super fights that sit in history today. Problem is Floyd dont have one. Anyway hopefully he KOes Canelo in strong fashion with out all that darn armlocking, them maybe you have some thing to bring to the table.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:34 am 


PEEJ

Gooch I did answer your question and your statement had holes in it which I pointed out. Goodnight I am also bout to pass out

Posted August 8, 2013 2:31 am 


PEEJ

I was referring to Gooch in that. Your absolutely correct but if he is gonna play that game I can also play that game.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:30 am 


Gooch.

Peej -you never answered any of my questions. Your Case for Floyd is weak. Case closed . Good night

Posted August 8, 2013 2:30 am 


PEEJ

See that’s the difference. I like watching Pac fight. But why didn’t he agree to taking the test? Why did he need a cut off date? Why did he say he was scared of needles even though he has a few tattoos, not just one but a few. Why did he say he was superstitious? Why did he say it makes him weak when he is now willing to take the test? Finally when he said he would take the test why did Arum say no unless they build an out door stadium? One that still hasn’t been built. When you can tell me the reasons to every one of them ridiculous excuses then let me know

Posted August 8, 2013 2:29 am 


Rome

Peej you cant compare fights and fighters. You should no better than that . Hoya scored a split decision with your boy and Pac put him into retirement, so there really is no point to who beat who an why and how.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:28 am 


PEEJ

And folks still saying clinching. I find that funny because not only does he land many more punches than his opponent but his opponents come out looking beat up something terrible.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:26 am 


Rome

Peej if that comment is for me let me make it very clear to you, I am not a fan of Pacman. I just want to know if mayweather claims he only fights for money then why run and run fast from what was going to be the biggest payday in history. that says alot about the champ blood that runs through your great fighter

Posted August 8, 2013 2:26 am 


PEEJ

Are we talking the same Marquez that just KOd Pac whom Floyd beat with ease coming off a 2 year retirement? Please.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:25 am 


PEEJ

You act like Pac has a great collection of undefeated fighters. Most of his undefeated fighters where garbage anyways. And I could care less if Pac KOd someone that Floyd fought. He has more power. Sweet Pea didn’t have a lot of KOs but he was still a great fighter.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:23 am 


Gooch.

Again peej
at the end of the day it’s wins that build the resume-not excuses. Who has may beaten that PAC hasn’t beaten twice as bad by actually Ko ing and not clinchin? How many tag has may beaten? 1 …. Pacquiao? 4 or 5 if you count Ledwaba, bradley(he really bet him), and beating morales, Marquez, barrea twice each!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 2:20 am 


Rome

Peej, my bad was he. Ok you can have corrales. what that do for you. Hatton and corrales, wow thats a great collection.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:19 am 


PEEJ

Corrales was also undefeated. Lol

Posted August 8, 2013 2:18 am 


PEEJ

Morales wasn’t brutally KOd, neither was Margacheato, neither was Oscar, and neither was Barrera. What fights where you watching. Floyd KOd Hatton and as a matter of fact put the first L on his record. Floyd beat Oscar also. He also beat Cotto and by the way Cotto landed more punches on Pac than he did on Floyd and the fight went longer against Pac.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:17 am 


Rome

G. Thug where you at, protect your boy we bagging on the lemmon man.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:17 am 


Rome

Gooch they cant answer that question because they are stuck on this so called champ who bagged has beens, no names, old farts, little people, and all had been beat way before lemmon collector came along to only claim hatton as the only undefeated person he faced, who might I add was nobody special

Posted August 8, 2013 2:15 am 


Rome

G. Thug you me me laughing x 1000 but you cant laugh at the fact your boy didnt have the man card to step up to the plate,, you can x that comment x5000

Posted August 8, 2013 2:11 am 


Gooch.

Peej/mr thug- how many 8x world titliest exist? How many boxers have brutally kod morales, hatton, margarito, odh, cotto, Barrera…etc. what has Floyd done? Plz answer this question!

Posted August 8, 2013 2:10 am 


PEEJ

Well if Pac and his team didn’t come up with ridiculous excuses we could of found out. All he had to do was agree to the testing but he came up with some pretty lame excuses. If Floyd was bluffing all he had to do was agree to the testing and if Floyd backed out then we would of known he was scared. Unfortunately Pac didn’t do that and made a fool out of himself. As a matter of fact every fight that he lost or came close to losing or didn’t look good in he had some sort of excuse on why that happened.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:10 am 


Rome

Peej we finally agree on something, your right Pac won the first two no dought, but know that when those two get in the ring, ladies and gentlement get ready for war, get ready for boxing

Posted August 8, 2013 2:09 am 


Rome

Peej you are never going to know that because floyd never got into the ring.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:07 am 


PEEJ

That is because Pac is an offensive fighter and Floyd is defensive. You can say Floyd lost to Castillo, if that’s what you think it was a close fight. To many people Pac lost every fight against Marquez. I thought Pac won the first 2 and he most definitely lost the last 2. Lets not forget Pac ducked Guzman and wanted to quit against Agapito Sanchez.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:06 am 


Rome

G. Thug. Im not a Pacman fan. I do believe that Pac was a worry for the Mayweather camp. Mayweather and crew knew darn well if they took on the Pacman, all that pop shoting in the middle of the ring and all that holding on the ropes was not going to hold up against the pressure of a guy who will beat on you for 12 rounds. Mayweather new it was a big risk 6 years ago, and we all know it now 6 years later its not a secret.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:06 am 


PEEJ

I never said Pac wasn’t the real thing. I’ve said numerous times that Pac is a great fighter. He just isn’t as great as Floyd. That’s nothing to be ashamed at.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:04 am 


Gooch.

Peek- true, morales beat packs ass 1st time. I was happy and rooted for my favorite fighter morales. Guess what? PAC evolved and came back and Krio of morales 2x. That’s what ATG DO!.. So a shot barrera defeated morales, and hamed consecutively (creating both their 1st ever defeats) by your logic peej?… And uhh PAC beat Mosley and odh,Hutton, cotto, twice as bad as may weather did.(may lost to castillo and dlh by many accounts). PAC destroyed dHy. .. No contest PAC destroys may weather clinches , runs and makes an event into a snorefest

Posted August 8, 2013 2:04 am 


Ghetto Thug

Rome- “Pacman can tear Floyd up ” LMAO x 1000

Posted August 8, 2013 2:03 am 


PEEJ

Pac was never an 8 time work champion. He was only an 8 time titlest. He was champion in 3 of this divisions though.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:03 am 


Dr. Puke Ph.D

Floyd Mayweather has never beaten a great fighter.

However, he very nearly lost to a shot version of one.

He also DID lose to good fighter in Jose Castillo the first time out.

Paquiao had beaten at least three great fighters.

That’s three more than Mayweather.

.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:02 am 


PEEJ

I do know how to score fights. I never said I though Bradley won. I said he got the W. but what cost Pac the fight was him only fighting 30 seconds a round. Floyd did win the fight. I watched the fight a couple weeks ago and Floyd won the first 5 rounds easy.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:01 am 


Rome

Peej, just because you lose a fight then come back and win doesnt mean you were not the real thing when you initially won.

Just means that you were a better fighter second time around for whatever the adjustments made.

Posted August 8, 2013 2:01 am 


Hidalgo

“Pacquiao was not a legit 8 time champ in 8 weight classes when you have 5,000 belts per division” Huh? Only 5,000?

Posted August 8, 2013 1:59 am 


Rome

Peej Im glad your not a judge in Las Vegas your scary.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:58 am 


Rome

Peej, in your dreams because anyone who has have a sense how to score a fight knows darn well Mayweather lost that fight also anyone with half a brain knows the Bradly was handed his birthday and christmas gift agains Pac

Posted August 8, 2013 1:57 am 


PEEJ

Floyd won that fight. I’ve seen it many times. It was close but Floyd won. Then he had a rematch and erased all doubts.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:55 am 


PEEJ

To bad Pac didn’t have the balls to take the test he is now having Rios take to fight Floyd. Sounds like to me Pac was the one that turned that fight down. Well his team did because Arum had no faith in him because he knew Floyd would you with him

Posted August 8, 2013 1:55 am 


Rome

Peej lets not forget Castillo beating Mayweather the first time also. That was a nice gift.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:53 am 


PEEJ

Clottey was hand picked because as long as your throwing punches he covers up. Last time I checked Bradley got the W against Pac. Margacheato was also hand picked. He was never the same after being found a cheat and also beat down by Mosley.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:53 am 


Rome

Ghetto Thug. Pacman got a good shot like everyother fighter who stepped in the ring. Pacman can tear Floyd up , but that s not going to happen because Mayweather cant get rid of his high heels and his candy stripe skirt.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:52 am 


PEEJ

Yeah but Morales beat Pac the first time. Boxes his ass. Barrera was going through many issues and never really got back to his prime. After thinking they weren’t gonna let him fight because if the metal plate I. His head to his having to abandon his training camp because of forrest fires. So he beat 3 great fighters. Margacheato was not in his prime. Mosley beat the prime out of him. You can say Mosley was a great fighter, Oscar can be considered great. He beat Corrales, Hernandes, Castillo who could also be considered a great fighter, Hatton, Cotto who is considered a great fighter. All those fighters are HOF fighters.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:52 am 


Rome

Mayweather has the best lemmon collection on the planet.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:50 am 


Gooch

“His opponents were hand picked”. – so morales, Barrera, Marques, margarita, cotto, hatton, clottey,rios, bradley, are hand picked? So these aren’t good fighters in you opinion? So who is a good fighter in your opinion mr thug?

Posted August 8, 2013 1:49 am 


Gooch

Mr Thug- wins against greats build resumes. Not mere conjecture. Who has may weather beaten to warrant greatness? Beating the true champs or not, 8’divisions is nothing to sneeze At. (1st ever) I ain’t no Packard. I rooted against him in all his fights but I ain’t blinded by biases. He is the ATG. He did it by winning fights. Not just talking.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:46 am 


Ghetto Thug

Stop asking for miracles and wanting pac to come back and become the “killer” you all believed he was…pac has been exposed completely theres no coming back…he will get killed in the ring…boxers are never the same after a loss like that!

Posted August 8, 2013 1:35 am 


Ghetto Thug

Gooch – I see some of Pactard nation is blind, didn’t see the clauses of his fights, or really really stupid. Pacquiao was not a legit 8 time champ in 8 weight classes when you have 5,000 belts per division, if you think he was you know nothing about boxing. His opponents were hand picked and he got knocked the f´k out by his papi, end of f´king discussion for me.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:33 am 


Gooch

Nathan-there is no way to determine mayweather is the greatest of his generation lest he actually proves it by fighting. Or is there a fallacy in my logic? Now PAC has beaten all comers/ATGS/top contenders. Who has may wether beaten? Corrals, Hutton n Marquez… Hardly warrants vote for best of his generation. PAC has proven with actual wins that he is greatest of his generation. Not theory- but wins

Posted August 8, 2013 1:24 am 


Nathan

Ghetto* oops poor spelling!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 1:11 am 


Nathan

@ Getto Thug

Hatton was not in any way past his prime he was at his peak. ( he was considered in the top 3 P4P at the time)
Cotto and Mags did not start out a Junior Middleweights nor did they spend the majority of their careers there the weight drain thing is BS.

I agree though that FMJ beats all versions of PAC. I just don’t agree that he’s a bum, he is the best we have seen this Gen with the exception of FMJ and maybe JMM

Posted August 8, 2013 1:10 am 


nameless

“BTW, supreme court is trolling under nameless.” Hooch, I knew that only you could see that. Damn you! man.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:07 am 


Gooch

Gheto thug- sorry, typo(gooch) – how was Barrera past his prime, on the heals of beating the great morales and hamed? barrera Had not lost in years(2000) by my count… How was morales drained, he had just fought at that weight with pacquia and won?.. 2 wins against Marquez, gift or no gift in your opinion, that merits recognition to beat an Atg.. Obliterating and ending the career of margacheato at an unprecedented 8 weight cLasses is overrated? I guess being the 1 st man to doing that is overrated mr thug?

Posted August 8, 2013 1:04 am 


Nathan

@ Done Deal Flawed Fact is that FMJ has a bigger fan base, He gets more PPV because people want to see him lose. I do however agree with the rest.

Watch the PPV for the Pac v Rios fight and you will see some SERIOUS numbers!!!!! as it will be broadcast and made available to about a billion people whereas most his fights have not had this.

Posted August 8, 2013 1:02 am 


Hooch

Peej-I did not say ATG margacheato, I said A PRIME, Which he was and a big threat . Go back on YouTube and see how money may was trembling when margacheato requested a fight from him…”doesn’t matter i if Floyd knocked them down or not he still beat them” … Again, so how many ATGs has Floyd beaten? By my count-just Marquez, with the help of not making weight… And yes Barrera and morales got their prime beaten out of them by PAC, thanks for proving my point.. Btw Supreme Court is trolling under nameless..sad

Posted August 8, 2013 12:57 am 


Havoc

Floyd is not a chicken!!! He is only a cherry picker!!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 12:43 am 


Ghetto Thug

Hooch my last post was 4 u

Posted August 8, 2013 12:42 am 


Ghetto Thug

“how is manny overrated?? Koing prime ATGS Barrera,morale, beating prime Marquez, margacheto,cotto?” LMAO…. and past prime barrera, a drained and just beat Morales (who kicked his rear in their first outing) Marquez (3 gifted decisions), a punching bag, drained and brickless Margacheato, a drained Cotto. An overwieight Marquez who got schooled, owned and toyed, C´mon man, Pac is a joke, a hypejob. Deal with it

Posted August 8, 2013 12:41 am 


PEEJ

And Margacheato is not an all time great, he is not a great fighter at all. As a matter of fact all his wins are now suspect. Just like they say about the baseball players on PEDs, any accomplishment as an asterisk next to there name, well Margacheato has a huge asterisk next to his name.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:38 am 


PEEJ

And I do believe Pac is a great fight, Floyd is just a greater figheter.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:36 am 


PEEJ

Doesn’t matter if Floyd knocked them down or not. He still beat them. And Morales beat Pac the first time. But unfortunately Morales got the prime beat out of him in that fight. Barrera was not in his prime. At least not from what I could tell.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:36 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Nope. Floyd is definitely not a chicken… He’s a Full blown SHARK.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:35 am 


BLUESMAN

Pacquiao is a PRODUCT!!! and i also buy his fights!! win lose or draw i lvoe the product!!

Posted August 8, 2013 12:34 am 


Ghetto Thug

I’m a thug and you would not want to know why amigo!! I suck d*cks for a living!!!

Posted August 8, 2013 12:32 am 


Hooch

Ghetto thug- how is manny overrated?? Koing prime ATGS Barrera,morale, beating prime Marquez, margacheto,cotto? .. If that qualifies overrated, thenn who has beaten that caliber fighters… Moneymay has how many ATG he’s beaten?? An overweight Marquez?? Whom he couldn’t drop,like pacquiao did? Btw supremecourt sucks

Posted August 8, 2013 12:29 am 


nameless

“BTW I’m a real thug, U wouldn’t want to know why.” I believe you. A guy that enjoys watching a woman cry in distress has to be a real thug. Again, congratulations.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:26 am 


Rem

Its no secret im one of Floyds biggest critics but i must defend him on this one. It’s just ridiculous to expect Floyd to fight a way he’s not built to fight. How many fighters has Mosley hit with that straight right but they didn’t blink.How many times has Cotto popped a guy with a jab but didn’t flush their nose. Floyd simply isn’t built for fighting toe to toe what do people objectively want from him. Imo this is what separates Ali and Robinson from him. But technically he is as good as anyone ever so how can anyone knock him for using it. I love watching him and have my hitmetaphorical pen and pad out w hen he fights. My problem with him is who’s he’s avoided. You cant talk like him and then not fight your fellow living legend who has been as amazing as you. It will always haunt his legacy

Posted August 8, 2013 12:25 am 


BLUESMAN

Pacquiao is an OVERRATED GLORIFIED SLUGGER, and will NEVER be as great as Mayweather OR Marquez. In all reality, Pacquiao isn’t great at all. He is a PRODUCT.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:07 am 


Ghetto Thug

nameless, my last post was for u, BTW Im a REAL thug, U wouldn´t want to know why

Posted August 8, 2013 12:05 am 


Ghetto Thug

Manny is just a little guy with some decent power. He got his overrated ass put to sleep. People says losing is part of winning, that’s funny because losing isn’t in Mayweathers vocab…..that’s what separates little pactard from Mayweather.

Posted August 8, 2013 12:03 am 


jas

how can anybody take this writer seriously when he mentions 1993 olympics?? what a retard!

Posted August 8, 2013 12:03 am 


jas

1993 olympics??????????????/

Posted August 8, 2013 12:01 am 


nameless

Ghetto thug, you’re a bad man. I don’t find watching a woman in clear anguish, looking his husband badly hurt without knowing how bad this is, funny at all. You most be a real thug, congrats.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:56 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Pacquiao has done what nobody else ever acomplished, he shown us his ass pointing upwards and his face flatted kissing the canvas besides wife crying spectacle was priceless, I hope we can see it again.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:46 pm 


PEEJ

Well unfortunately there is a lot surronding the fight with Barrera. Like all the issues he was going through with the commision on letting him fight because of the so called metal plate in his head, he had to leave training camp because of the forrest fires that were near him.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:33 pm 


CJ

Listen foks-master boxer vs master boxer-Marquez vs Floyd. Whats the difference? It looked like Hopkins standing to De La Hoya when Floyd stood to Marquez. Now think about it folks-Marquez is Pacquiao size. Floyd is bigger! This has been hidden, dodged whatever but hasn’t been talked about. And I do believe Floyd would do the same to Pacquiao because he is simply bigger and a WORLD CLASS BOXER. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT Floyd want face another boxer on the other end like GGG or his biggest ass kicking if he had the balls to agree and weight drain him is Andre Ward. FACT. F’t it and lets see GGG and Ward get it on for the best at weight drawn ounces elite level!

Posted August 7, 2013 11:32 pm 


nameless

havoc, to call you stupid would offend badly stupid people.

Posted August 7, 2013 11:27 pm 


Turbo-Hamster

That was a brutalising Brother Gonzo.

Manny showed Barrerra the difference between war, and war on fast forward.

Posted August 7, 2013 10:58 pm 


TARK

Floyd has had a pretty damned good career… How many guys get a 6 fight contract for a quarter BILLION when they’re 36 years old??? Floyd has to be LHFAO with a contract like that.. Of course, Floyd has been the world’s number one ranked fighter for longer than anyone else ever held that status.

I do like the Cinnamon Kid though… When he tags Floyd it’s going to get interesting. Upsets happen in Boxing all the time.

Posted August 7, 2013 10:50 pm 


Ray Ray

Chicken, boring, pot shot artist, defensive all equal winning…there’s a zero nxt 2 his name..And yes it’s called boxing aka the sweet science in which Floyd has mastered…The sport isn’t called punching, something which Mannys fan boys will never understand.

Posted August 7, 2013 10:46 pm 


Leknehelad

Floyd will bolt to the darkest corner of th chicken coop once he sees canelo

Posted August 7, 2013 10:45 pm 


PEEJ

No the fight was at a catch weight of 157 because Martinez said he couldn’t make 154 and Williams didn’t want to fight at 160

Posted August 7, 2013 10:06 pm 


PEEJ

Just googled 3 of Floyd’s fights and he landed more than 10 punches I’m almost all the rounds but maybe 2. So that’s a false statement

Posted August 7, 2013 10:05 pm 


TARK

The Martinez-Williams rematch was at 160 because Martinez whipped the huge 6’2″ X 180lb Kelly Pavlik at that weight and won the Middleweight Championship of the World.

Williams wanted a 160-pound title shot and got one.. He tried to get Pavlik who kept postponing their fight because of staph infections. Williams nailed down the shot after whipping Winky, but got embalmed with one thunderous left hander. It was a chopping shot that made perfect contact — while the Marquez blow on Pacquiao is something Manny drove headlong into as he missed a huge right hook.

Perfect timing produces perfect results. What a couple of stretch jobs.

Posted August 7, 2013 10:03 pm 


Havoc

He dance he covers he mock he show boat!

Posted August 7, 2013 10:02 pm 


Havoc

Peej- he does land more but lands less than 10 per round!

Posted August 7, 2013 10:00 pm 


PEEJ

Floyd doesn’t punch and hold. Funny how people keep saying he holds and runs yet he lands many more punches than his opponents and his opponents always look beat up.

Posted August 7, 2013 9:55 pm 


Havoc

Nobody can beat Floyd cherry pick opponents!!!! NOBODY!!!!

Posted August 7, 2013 9:55 pm 


Havoc

Floyd is boring, cherry picker fighter!!!! Who cares if he beat all his cherry pick opponents to a long boring decision! Fack!!!this dude has the ability to make a fight boring! Any good veteran fighter like BHop can make a very good fighter look boring, by not fighting. One punch then hug, or one punch then hide or dance. Floyd fights scared! No matter what you say!

Posted August 7, 2013 9:53 pm 


PEEJ

Pac never beat a prime Berrera or Morales. Actually a prime Morales beat Pac.

Posted August 7, 2013 9:23 pm 


147pounder

Maravilla wil knock floyd out anytime to bad floyd was never man enough to fught him he claims maravilla is to big when martinez its a natural 154 wgo is only two inches taller than floyd ……………floyd i wish u could read this ur notbing but a clown u beat marquez who had to go to two weight classes north to fight u and u say ur the greatest how about u go up im weight two or even one weight north of 147 and fight martinez or giolovking and let c how great u are…..ur and always will b a chicken

Posted August 7, 2013 8:49 pm 


147pounder

Paquiao will always be better than floyd no matter what pacman is always willin to take risks with dangerous fighters bigger and stronger than him thats something to b respected besides he is an agressive fighter always willin to trade floyd its nothing but a skilled boring fighter why floyd never agreed to fight martinez? Even when we all know martines is a natural 154
pounder he challenged floyd after he beat cotto at 154 now answer me why the so called number one fighter never agreed to fight maravilla at 154? When martinez was ranked number 2pound fy

Posted August 7, 2013 8:41 pm 


Done deal

Hecdog that is your opinion and certainly not the facts . You facts than here we go. Floyd’s fights generate more revenue than Manny fights because he has a bigger fan base. Floyd is ranked pound for pound #1 which is the boxing critics analysis. Floyd is the highest paid athlete in the world, not manny. Floyd is ranked higher as an a time great than Manny. Facts

Posted August 7, 2013 8:29 pm 


BLUESMAN

Manny Pacquiao could not and would not have ever beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Posted August 7, 2013 8:27 pm 


zera

i always look at the 2009 version of manny, after that, he’s not just the same anymore… but i still prefer the FMJ vs PAC 2009, not now… what a shame it didn’t happen before…

Posted August 7, 2013 8:22 pm 


BLUESMAN

Pacquiao will NOT stand at the top of the mountain; Floyd Mayweather Jr will. Pacquiao CAN’T beat Floyd and he KNOWS it! But I respect y’alls opinions. :-)

Posted August 7, 2013 8:21 pm 


hookoffthejab

His defense originates from the fear to be hit and hurt. He’s been boxing long enough to learn how to fight, but he doesn’t like getting hit, cut, bruised, dazed or anything of that nature………….<Anyone who likes getting "hit, cut, bruised, dazed or anything of that nature"<< THat is just plain STUPIDS right there …Anyone who likes this kind of treatment well theres a word for that sadomasochism there are other words you could use also …….

Posted August 7, 2013 8:18 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is a great fighter, you can’t take that away from him, he is just not greater than Floyd. Which is not bad at all.

Posted August 7, 2013 8:12 pm 


PEEJ

I think what made it so hard for Marquez was the fact that Pac throws so many punches in combo and they are all pretty hard. I thought when he was trying to box with Cotto, Cotto would get the better but Cotto would decide to trade with him at times and that is what caused him to get caught. If you have a good jab it definitely bothers Pac. And Cotto was landing that good jab of his till he deciced to trade.

Posted August 7, 2013 8:11 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is the ultimate fighter. A man that takes them all on at all weights. He has no fear and puts himself out there. Yes, he may lose, but he gets respect and love from everyone. Mayweather will never achieve this type of admiration from the boxing public throughout the world. Manny fights with bravery, courage, honor and respect, which in turn goes back to him a hundred fold. When it’s all said and done, Manny Pacquiao will stand at the top of the mountain.

Posted August 7, 2013 8:10 pm 


BLUESMAN

Pacquiao was never that good anyway and is a glorified slugger in addition to being overrated. He has made his “career” beating fighters who were past their prime. In addition, Pacqiuao NEVER beat Marquez. He got two gift decisions, a gift draw, and got knocked out the fourth time. Marquez will ALWAYS be a better boxer than Pacquiao!

Posted August 7, 2013 8:09 pm 


Hecdog

My post was posted as Anonymous.

Posted August 7, 2013 8:03 pm 


hookoffthejab

The problem with me and a lot of other boxing fans is that we only see the obvious …Its the little things that make the BIG things possible ..Having SKILL is the ability to make things look easy (obvious big things easy for the educated too see) and or “making it look easy ” is just a by product of being highly skilled either way there the same thing ………….Manny jumping around darting in & out and Floyd running these are the obvious things that anyone can see …ANd on the topic of Floyd its my belief and has been since watching the fight live , that Junior wanted to make the fight with Cotto more “interesting” specially for the “haters” He fought that fight letting Cotto in , fighting against the ropes engaging with Cotto …To try and appease the FANS ……..

Posted August 7, 2013 8:00 pm 


zera

and the debates begin again… i always have fun in the comments section, willing to pay 75$ to read comments from you guys, hahaha!!

this is more entertaining than Mayweather vs Pac… oh wait………
mayweather is better than pac? or pac can knock out floyd?? (talking about 2009)

Posted August 7, 2013 7:59 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao is not a mediocre boxer… He easily outboxed Hatton 38 to 5 in the first round — and even outboxed ATG Miguel Cotto in stretches.

Marquez is not a guy too many people outbox… I had Marquez winning their first 3 fights by extremely tight margins and being a point down in the 4th contest when Pacquiao made a horrendous mistake… Marquez is an ATG boxer and you can’t do that.

Pacquiao was tagging the Hell out of Marquez in their 1st fight… Marquez had to make a world of adjustments in a big hurry.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:47 pm 


te tumbo

Pacquiao* is a mediocre boxer. the only talent he has that even comes close to being a boxing skill is his ability to quickly dart in and out of the combat zone. of course, it’s that same spastic and predictable skill(?) that enabled Marquez to time and finally clock Pacquiao* with KD and KO puncheS. otherwise, he remains a predictable, single-fisted, one-dimensional southpaw puncher with great handspeed, quick feet, and a durable chin . . . pending the outcome of his bout v. Rios the “chin-checker”.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:34 pm 


te tumbo

I agree that Pacquiao* and ring-legacy belongs in the “greatness” category of Arturo Gatti, Mickey Ward, and Diego Corrales. Floyd’s domination of Gatti and Corralles and scaring Pacquiao* into chronic avoidance mode is what elevates his name far above those blood-and-guts warriors and one promotional hype-job.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:24 pm 


PEEJ

Also there is no need to take a chance if you don’t have to. Normally the fighters that are taking a chance are the ones that are behind and they have to go in for the knockout. I don’t call Rios fighting style as taking chances. That is just the way he fights and likes to fight. I don’t really see that as taking chances. Now when you are behind and they are telling you that you need to have a KO to win so you need to take a chance. I just consider that to be a bit different. But to each there own I guess.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:21 pm 


PEEJ

Not really sure Pac boxed Margacheato. He was just much faster than him and he did his normal jump in and out moving around Margacheato. Once Pac slowed down a bit Margacheato was able to find Pac and found him often. Pac looked pretty beat up after that fight and claimed he was on bed rest for a couple of days after that fight. That fight there took some of the prime out of Pac.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:19 pm 


terrible fan

So this is the author’s great epiphany?!? Umm…ever hear the term ‘sweet science’? Yeah, they’re not all brawlers genius.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:13 pm 


TARK

BTW…, Larry Merchant is an idiot… This sport is Boxing.. It isn’t prize fighting.. When you see a Boxing poster on a wall it never says “Prize Fighting” … It always says “BOXING”

Gene Tunney…, “I’m not a fighter. I’m a boxer.”

Posted August 7, 2013 7:11 pm 


TARK

This pundit says…., “That explains why guys like Arturo Gatti, Micky Ward, Diego Corrales and Manny Pacquiao are so popular”

I wouldn’t put Pacquiao in the same category as Gatti, Ward, and Corrales… Hatton belongs with that group—but Pac can definitely box… Pacquiao is not a mindless brawler who takes one to get one in… although he was a little too freewheeling versus Marquez last time.

Pac boxed Cheato Margarito, Ricky Hatton, and other walk-in sluggers… And he will do the same with Rios.

Posted August 7, 2013 7:06 pm 


DJ

There is nothing wrong with moving around and boxing instead of going toe to toe all the time. I agree with the notion that the audience wants a good and entertaining fight but you can’t blame someone for the way they fight. Especially if they are always winning. Now I don’t agree that Floyd is a coward in the ring by not always standing toe to toe with his opponent but I agree that he is a coward in making excuses why he hasn’t fought certain people. I won’t go into Pacman scenario cause we are bored with it, but think back when Kostya Tszyu was destroying everyone in his path. He just wanted big fights and never backed away from anyone, if Floyd has always been the man he and his promotors should have made it happen no matter who either fighter was signed with. He knows along with De La Hoya that once they faced KT there careers would have virtually been over. KT was a master and dictated equally with offence and defence. That’s what made him the best pound for pound ever in his division, he would box you when he needed and then he would come in for the kill when needed. I haven’t seen a fighter break anyone down the way he did. To sum up, Floyd needs to fight pacman if they both get past there next opponents!!!

Posted August 7, 2013 6:59 pm 


Done deal

Floyd is not a Vampire. He ages just like every other human. Wack haters lol

Posted August 7, 2013 6:53 pm 


Done deal

I see Good people like you will always make excuses. What’s your excuse for The Ghost? What will be your excuse if he beats Alvarez? Oh I forgot that Floyd ages as well. He is not a vampire. Was Marquez past his prime when he KO’d Manny? Keep the BS excuses coming

Posted August 7, 2013 6:51 pm 


murderman

You cats say floyd beat these dudes past their primes? Hello! Floyd is 36 goin on 37! He is past his prime too! Which makes the feat that much more impressive! Pac’s resume reads the same way and yall dont criticize him! Smh

Posted August 7, 2013 6:49 pm 


I see Good

BRAVO BRAVO the PUBLIC is STARTING FINALLY WAKING THE F$CK UP.. Seems like more and MORE people are SEEING GOOD ALSO.. Its ABOUT time you guys WOKE the F$CK uP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have been writting this for the PAST 5 YEARS.. Well better LATE than NEVER… SHOWTIME KNOWS a CHERRYPICKER from a GREAT FIGHTER like PACMAN. Give the GUY CREDIT Yeah he got 3 passes on MARQUEZ he didnt deserve but he FOUGHT them ALL All that was PUT in FRONT of HIM. I tip my HAT.. I am NOT a PACMAN FAN.

Posted August 7, 2013 6:49 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd Mayweather is a chicken at heart. His defense originates from the fear to be hit and hurt. He’s been boxing long enough to learn how to fight, but he doesn’t like getting hit, cut, bruised, dazed or anything of that nature. He would rather play touch football than tackle football. It’s a mind set that makes him feel secure and safe, and that’s fine, but he should understand that the vast majority of fans like a good fight. They pay their hard earned money to see a good fight. No one remembers defensive fighters in boxing. Pernell Whitaker was a defensive genius, but he stood there and also fought you. His fight vs Chavez was a master piece. His fight vs De La Hoya in his prime was a master piece. The defensive wizard Wilfredo Benitez was incredible. Benitez also stood there and fought you. Look, this is boxing. Fighters get hit, hurt, cut, bloodied, knocked out and sometimes die in the ring. This is what boxers sign up for. The risks are what fighter love to overcome. Floyd has made enough money for his family 100 times over. He has the fame. He needs to accept the criticism of his style. It’s not exciting and doesn’t test a fighters heart, courage or bravery that real fight fans respect. Honor comes from going through adversity. It comes from digging yourself out of a hole that your unfamiliar with. Fighters like Duran, Ali, Louis, Forman, Robinson, Chavez, and others face their adversity and won. Floyd tasted some of this with Cotto, and afterwards wanted no part of a fight. The Guerrero fight showed he didn’t want to fight. Floyd Mayweather is a great athlete and a good fighter, but he doesn’t not possess the intestinal fortitude to be a great fighter. Floyd has no real stand out fight that people remember because his wins are mostly made up of defense, hitting, holding, hugging and running away or moving away as some of you put it. This is a style that will not be held in high regard in the historical books of boxing.

Posted August 7, 2013 6:48 pm 


I see Good

Done Deal You forgot to mention ALL the above were WAY PAST THEIR PRIME!!! HMMMM yeah thats call CHERRYPICKING.. Did somebody say Manny Pacman, Cotto. Paul williams in their PRIME??? No Cherrypicker didnt want to fight them to DANGEROUS.. Showtime TOLD CHERRYPICKER you must fight Canelo. OTHERWISE this fight would NEVER happen. Looks like SHOWTIME is onto CHERRYPICKER NO MORE HAND PICK FIGHTS

Posted August 7, 2013 6:42 pm 


Done deal

Well the fighters that aren’t considered CHICKEN got their ass whipped by Floyd. Gatti is considered one of the greatest PRIZE FIGHTERS to put on gloves and he got destroyed by Floyd. Other great FIGHTERS on his résumé’ Mosely, DH, Hatton, and Marquez. People just get mad cause Floyd is the best at what he does and he doesn’t do or fight how they want him to fight.

Posted August 7, 2013 6:04 pm 


Rogerdjs

I second detoys thoughts.

Posted August 7, 2013 5:49 pm 


dtoyS

HBO commentators created this Chicken/Cherrypicker and here is why, everytime a Magarito, Paul Williams, Cintron, Clottey, undefeated 147 Cotto came into the picture as a Mandatory candidate for Floyd, they would focus there attention to a 140 Hatton, Old granpa Oscar or great granpa Baldomir, 135 Marquez, 140 Guerrero, 140 stupid Ortiz and when Floyd said no to Manny they closed the doors on him like an unworthy unranked street bum who never made any money for HBO and now Showtime will make sure that Floyd is for reals by challenging the top Mandatory opponents starting with Canelo. go Showtime

Posted August 7, 2013 5:39 pm 


Pratt

Floyd is not a chicken. He is a master at his craft, and at times that may be boring, but at other times he is quite sensational. Either way he wins with it. I am not his fan, but I give him credits for his skills, because he is very very good. You are not a chicken if you face Cotto or Mosely or Baldimir or tough guy Hatton. So we just go on viewing the FMJ Boxing show
and see who is put up in his face this time and next time. Enjoy it.

Posted August 7, 2013 5:35 pm 


de Lima I.

FMJ’s the best fighter of our generation, he has the best defense in boxing the world has ever seen and has made more than one world class boxer look amateurish. For a boxer to have never been beaten in his career is amazing, even more so when you look at the fighters he has fought. His career does say a lot and as arrogant as the man is, he can and has backed that arrogance up, period.

Posted August 7, 2013 5:35 pm 


de Lima I.

Correto

Posted August 7, 2013 5:28 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

Author, there were no Olympic Games in 1993. Wlad won a Gold Medal in the 1996 Olympic Games, which took place in Atlanta.

Posted August 7, 2013 5:14 pm 


Boxe0

Better yet teach your kids not to beat up your momma

Posted August 7, 2013 5:12 pm 


123=VI

You will teach your kids to RESPECT the sport of Boxing by NOT CHEATING, CHERRYPICKING, LYING and most of all DUCKING those who challenge you RIGHT IN YOUR FACE like Magarito did to Floyd back in the days only for Floyd to LIED in Magarito face that they will meet down the road and guess what THATS WHEN THE Floyd EARNED THE WORD CHICKEN but Floyd in Reality is a CHERRYPICKER a CHEATER and a LIER lets hope that Showtime keep FORCING Floyd to fight the REAL MANDATORY OPPONENTS LIKE Canelo.

Posted August 7, 2013 5:07 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Being called Chicken doesn’t phase Floyd; however, Floyd will start to worry when critics call him Justin Bieber.

Posted August 7, 2013 5:03 pm 


TJ

and conversate with their own grandchildren ( I so hate predictive text)…

Posted August 7, 2013 5:01 pm 


TJ

THE MOMENT ONE OF THESE BONEHEAD FANS mans up and steps into the ring prepared to give me my money’s worth by sticking their own chin in the path of a Matthysse hook or a Wlad right hand or a royal tattoo from MONEY MAY, then I will give them props.

But for these hypocrites to moan and boo these masters of the art of boxing when they are too chicken livered to risk brain damage, MEDICARE bills and many other ailments from getting bashed in the head repeatedly, they should be ashamed of themselves.

A stupid man stands and fights to the death but a clever man uses his brains and smarts and lives to fight another day.

SO, when you teach your kids to box, will you teach them to fight like BOBBY CHACON, BOBBY CZYZ, ROCKY MARCIANO or will you teach them to box like a PEP, WHITAKER or a WINKY?

I know which way I would teach my children….At least I’d be confident they would be able to play and conversation with their own grand child’s in years to come.

UNTIL we are prepared to pay for their medical bills we all need to STFU and appreciate these fighters rather than boo them and call them chicken!

Posted August 7, 2013 4:59 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

That’s a quack up…

Posted August 7, 2013 4:31 pm 


Boxe0

A duck?

Posted August 7, 2013 4:25 pm 



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