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Anonymous

thanks to peej, the fmj nuthugging retard, this hw discussion has deteriorated into yet one more thread about his cherry picking hero.

Posted August 21, 2013 4:39 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

BEE-J: This moderator and/or writer will NOT allow me to post my response for some reason. And it’s beyond FRUSTRATING.

He must be a brainwashed, FMJ nut-hugging fan-boy, just like you… LOL.

Posted August 16, 2013 10:26 am 


tony

price might have got his ass kicked…but at least he has some balls to fight a real contender…can’t say that about wilder yet

Posted August 16, 2013 12:55 am 


tony

wilder,yes you looked good saturday…time to fight a live hvy…solis called you out,

Posted August 16, 2013 12:51 am 


PEEJ

And again if he did fight GGG at Jr Middle and he won the fight. Then everybody would say well GGG was weight drained. You can’t expect him to make 154 when he has fought his whole career at 160. And we have seen that happen to alot of fighters of late. They think they can make a lower weight, get beat then blame it on making weight.

Posted August 15, 2013 4:53 pm 


PEEJ

See so now you are changing your argument. Which is fine I can debat that also. Floyd is not going to campaign at 154. He is probably going to win the championship and unless there is a rematch clause he will move back down to 147 and continue to defend his championship there. Probably against the winner of Matthysse and Garcia. Just because he moves up briefly doesn’t mean he is still not the greatest fighter of his generation. He is taking on the Jr Middle champ and then he will move back down to continue to defend his WW championship. Nothing wrong with that and it does not mean he is ducking anybody.

Posted August 15, 2013 4:51 pm 


PEEJ

So your trying to make a point for GGG but yet still talk about Floyd’s weight. You say GGG is a small middle walking around at 167 or 168 and comes in at 170 on fight night. Floyd walks around at 150, they have said this many times. It’s no secrete. Jeff Mayweather just mentioned it in an interview a couple days ago. Yet you say he is not a small WW and he is only having to lose 3 pounds. Yeah ok. You just have a double standard is all. Which of course if it works for you it’s all good, if it works against you then you have a problem for it. I have you the answer you wanted and your still asking for more.

Posted August 15, 2013 1:45 pm 


JoanneBugner

Agreed

Posted August 15, 2013 9:27 am 


sorry but

TARK….you can’t have too many people.

This is the stupidest line I ever read from you.

Posted August 15, 2013 8:42 am 


Anonimouse

LYIN KING – LL chose to fight amateur in Canada because thats where he learned to box, and because the amateur scene in the UK back then had no funding and was crap! No logic to what you say; he could have boxed pro for Canada, and got a huge fan base, just like Bute, Pacal etc, and been close to the USA, which back then, was where all the big fights happened. So logically he wouldve been better staying in Canada..prob for you is he chose to come back to where he was born and raised…youre stupid saying LL was Canadian or Jamaican, its like saying Ali was African and Irish and not American…see the flaws in your argument??

Posted August 15, 2013 7:29 am 


Dionysus

That makes me question Wilder’s power that they are talking about and also Hamer losing to a guy who Drew Malik Scott and then Scott losing to Chisora tells me Wilder will run into trouble ahead.

Posted August 15, 2013 6:57 am 


Dionysus

Hey, if this is any indication of anything useful or not; wilder beat Kerston Manswell in one round. Knocked him down 3 times. Tor Hamer knocked him (basically out) down and he got up but was rubber band legs and the ref waved it off. Hamer has beat By Glazkov who had a draw with Scott, who was just stopped by Chisora. I know that can be confusing to follow but the interesting point is Tor Hamer dropped him and hurt him the first time, wilder had to floor him 3 times to get the 3 KD rule. Also, Malik Scott losing to Chisora ultimately factors in about where Wilder stands in a not so direct way.

Posted August 15, 2013 6:54 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

JoanneBugner: Please don’t get you wet, dirty panties twisted and all up in a bunch — you might hurt yourself… LOL.

You said, “He could have represented ANY nation, he chose where he was BORN and RAISED.” That is that they call a “half truth.” Lewis was born in the UK, but moved to Canada at a young age, grew up there, and learned to box in that country. Having dual citizenship, he easily could’ve chosen to represent GB in the Olympics, both times. But he chose to represent Canada in the Olympics both times, which tells everybody with half a brain where his true national allegiances lie.

He chose to launch his pro career from the UK because boxing has always been much more popular there than in Canada. It was a business decision on his part, because he wanted to become as rich, famous and successful as possible. At that time, the UK was a better environment than Canada for accomplishing those goals.

It’s a well-proven fact that LL hasn’t lived in the UK for about 10 years. He lives in Miami, which has tropical weather, a large Jamaican population and all the freedoms that come with living in the U.S. Then he spends the other half the year living at his villa estate in Jamaica — which isn’t but a short boat ride from Miami.

If you were to have a personal conversation with LL, he would say that he’s Jamaican first and foremost and is most likely a Rastafarian. By citizenship, he considers himself to be Canadian first, and British second.
Sorry, but these are the straight facts.

During his pro career, of course he publicly stated that he’s always considered himself to be British. But he was just playing the PR game and saying whatever it took to build a huge fan base in the UK in order to be as successful as possible.

Notice how LL never wore the Union Jack draped trunks like Haye, Chisora and so many other British boxers??? That was no coincidence. Keep in mind that LL’s parents and wife were born and raised in Jamaica and that Island is former British colony. There are still plenty of Jamaicans who hate the English and Brits with a deep passion.

Truth is, the majority of fans in Canada consider LL to be Canadian; the majority of Jamaicans consider him to he Jamaican; and a huge number of Americans consider him to be a Jamaican-Canadian who happened to be born in the UK. But where you choose to live most of your life, means a lot more than where you were born – because as an infant and young child, you have no choices whatsoever.

Posted August 15, 2013 5:10 am 


TARK

Anybody who wants to be, or tries to be, a US citizen is American enough for me.. People vote with their feet.. They go where they want to be.

For a country not to accept them? That’s their loss.. People are worth more than natural resources so you can’t have too many people. Just look at Singapore.

Posted August 15, 2013 2:55 am 


TARK

Wilder is the next big thing… Bryant Jennings is the next 6’2″ thing… Some say he lacks the size and power to deal with Wilder — but I’d like to see him try. Don’t count Jennings out yet.

Posted August 15, 2013 2:15 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Blah blah blah, real DUMB talk…

Posted August 15, 2013 2:06 am 


GUMBOOT

Answering the headline question: No. But then again the cometition iS VERY VERY weak.

Posted August 15, 2013 1:18 am 


T

Lewis native country is Britain, born in 1965 in Britain where he stayed until 12years old, he returned in 1989, Lewis has and always considered himself British.

Posted August 15, 2013 12:30 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Blah blah blah…

Posted August 14, 2013 8:34 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

RUFFKNIGHT is on Beat Street.

FMJ is currently a WBA Jr. MW Champion, a WBC Jr. MW Champion, and has been ranked the #1 Jr. MW by Ring for quite some time. So, only an IDIOT would claim that he’s not a Jr. MW.
_____________________________________________________________________

Lennox Lewis is Canadian by nationality first and foremost. He grew up in Canada, learned how to box in Canada, represented Canada twice in the Olympics, and sang the Canadian national anthem beneath the Maple Leaf flag after winning the Gold Medal.

He moved to the UK just because he thought it would be a better platform for his pro boxing career — but had an American trainer (Steward).

For the past 10 years, Lewis has lived part of the year in Montego Bay, Jamaica and part of the year in Miami Beach, FL. He hasn’t lived in the UK since. So even though Lewis was born in the UK, he’s not very British at all because he’s spent more than half his life living in other countries. His parents were born and raised in Jamaica, and his wife is from Jamaica, so LL considers himself to be in the following order:

1) Jamaican
2) Canadian
3) British

Real talk.

Posted August 14, 2013 8:03 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

Well Floyd must be a 154 lb. fighter seeing how he’s the WBA’s Jr. Middle champ. I don’t think GGG would have any problem making 154 but I doubt that we’ll ever see Floyd fighting him.

Posted August 14, 2013 6:41 pm 


PEEJ

Again another false claim. GGG is not a 154lb fighter, never once in his pro career has he ever weighed in at 154. The closest he has been is like 157 and half. He is not ranked at 154. So tell me again how he is the best fighter at 154?

Posted August 14, 2013 5:53 pm 


PEEJ

so if he gains weight during training camp how is he gaining more weight after the weigh in? You realize the reason why they are gaining all that weight is because they are trying to replenish the liquids they dried out of there system right. Why is it that when Byrd fought he would actually lose weight after the weigh in. Why when Floyd fought Oscar and Cotto did he lose weight over night? GGG has to lose weight to make 160. He would not gain 10lbs over night if that wasn’t the case. Yes that is a hole in your weak theory. Floyd has already said he is not a 154lb fighter. So what is the problem. Why don’t you call for GGG to move up and fight? You have a weak double standard. And yes I have been to jail and I know what sort of feed they eat. Why is it other folks gain weight and get muscular? Oh weight they had special privelages and got to eat different food right?

Posted August 14, 2013 5:51 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

PEEJ: You have NEVER once proved anything I’ve said to be false or poked holes in any of my theories. That’s only happened in your manic delusions of grandeur, which have NO basis in reality.

Sounds like you’ve never been to jail or prison, have you tough guy? If you had, you’d know that the food is barely edible, so of course FMJ lost a little weight while in the clink. Big F’ing deal! That has nothing to do with the REAL weight he walks around at before starting training camps — which is way over 150lbs and around 160lbs.

I asked you ONE simple question and you REFUSE to answer it truthfully. Name a handful fights that 3G has weighed 170lbs or more on Fight Nights??? You CAN’T do it because he’s not that heavy!

3G is like the Klitschkos in that he actually gains weight during training camps. But he’s a smaller MW that walks around at just over 160lbs. FACTS! Why on earth don’t you want to see the so-called GOAT fight the very best competition at 154lbs??? Because you KNOW damn well that FMJ will lose — and get KTFO in BRUTAL fashion. That’s why FMJ would NEVER fight Maravilla (another small MW) at 154lbs and will NEVER fight 3G at 154lbs. That’s NOT what we call Greatness, that’s what we call Cowardliness!

But keep on lying and riding Lil’ Floyd’s sack like he’s the love of your life. And keep furiously protecting his deteriorating reputation like he’s your own brotha from the same motha. You’re straight-up PATHETIC, dude… LOL!

Posted August 14, 2013 5:36 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

ANON: Thanks, mano! Not only are they fun and entertaining, but accurate as H3LL and full of fact-based stats and interesting info. I like your posts as well… LOL.

Posted August 14, 2013 5:12 pm 


ANON

Squared your posts are 100% fun! LOL

Posted August 14, 2013 4:08 pm 


PEEJ

And when GGG actually makes 154 some time in his pro career then you can go ahead and let me know. But until then ill keep saying he can’t make 154. And 154 is not Floyds devision, it is 147. He has been running that weight for years.

Posted August 14, 2013 4:02 pm 


Jim R

Guy reminds me of Joe Mesi, Mesi beat everyone looked great until he started fighting people in the top 20 heavyweights then he was knocked down and had retire due to brain bleeding. He is at least C level fight so fighting bums who can’t make the grade is great for practice and padding a record but he needs try fight somone at his own level or very close to it because if he does he won’t blow them out of the water in 2 or 3 rounds he will be in a real fight and that’s what he needs.

Posted August 14, 2013 3:57 pm 


Anonymous

Wladimir Klitschko had a boring fight vs Sultan Ibragimov… Iggy is a survivor. Vlad floored Iggy … but he ran and grabbed all night.

Wladimir’s Peter I and II, Thompson I, Austin, Williamson, Brewster, Brock, Byrd, Williamson, Nicholson, and Mercer fights were all pretty interesting …. Wladimir usually puts on a great show. His Wach fight had no knockdowns or KO to it, but it was a great exhibition of boxing skill and power—showing how to deal with a bigger, taller, tougher guy with a longer reach.

The heavyweights out there right now are pretty exciting in general. Wilder, Jennings, Wlad, Haye, Fury, Thompson, Pulev, Price, Arreola, and Stiverne have been putting on some interesting contests. It will probably be the most exciting decade in Heavyweight History.

Ali had an interesting fight in Frazier I…

But Ali’s Spinks, Evangelista, Young, Mathis, Bugner I and II, Lubbers, Mac Foster, Holmes, and Berbick fights were great therapy for insomniacs.

Sportswriter Jim Murray.., “Ali and Bugner introduced the concept of non-violence to Boxing.”

Johnny Carson stole Murray’s line when he said.., “This just in hot off the press folks… Muhammad Ali and Alfredo Evangelista have just been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize … for promoting non-violence in Boxing.” … Carson never got a bigger laugh on the Tonight Show.

Posted August 14, 2013 3:36 pm 


ray gordon reid

C OULD BE

Posted August 14, 2013 3:23 pm 


ray gordon reid

FEATHERWIGHTS TOO

Posted August 14, 2013 3:07 pm 


ray gordon reid

I LIKE FLYWEIGHTS BANTAMWEIGHTS DEONTAY COULD BE

Posted August 14, 2013 3:06 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Lennox Lewis is Jamaican and was born in the UK, but grew up in Canada. He represented Canada twice in the Olympics: 1984 in LA and 1988 in Seoul where he won the Gold Medal at Super HW.

He did not move back to the UK until he was in his twenties. Although he holds both Canadian and British citizenship, I’ve always considered him to be a Canadian for obvious reasons. The Brits like to claim Lewis because he was a great Champion, but in reality he was always Canadian and still is to this day. Real talk.

Posted August 14, 2013 2:41 pm 


thetruth101

I want to believe in American Heavyweights again. Klitchkos are just to darn big and have no bad habits. Wilder has some tools but I haven’t seen him in a fight. Arreola is no prize but might be a good measuring stick. Better yet the guy who roughed up Arreola, Stverne or how ever you spell his name. That would be a good fight.

Posted August 14, 2013 2:34 pm 


PEEJ

Oh so you are just lying. Ok, I will stop responding to your dumb post now. People always trying to turn it into a race thing. Ridiculous.

Posted August 14, 2013 12:51 pm 


JeffC

We will never know how good he is until he gets in a real fight, after he gets hit hard, and then comes back against a real top 5 heavyweight it’s all guess work, I hope he is as good against the best as he is against this weaker opposition, why? because there are no other American heavyweights out there who are really outstanding against decent opponents.

Posted August 14, 2013 12:25 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

BRUCE IS A W@NKER, HE WEARS A BASEBALL CAP WITH I,M A W@NKER ON IT

Posted August 14, 2013 11:05 am 


BIG FOOT

LL never did fight Bowe did he? The Mercer fight was booed by the crowd and could have been a draw. He never got a legitimate win over McCall and most of those guys mentioned by Assyrian God were past it or already destroyed by someone else. If Bob Foster and others have been considered ATG’s then the K-Bros who have held their titles so long, are ATG’s as well.

Posted August 14, 2013 11:04 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Even Wladdie admitted his fights on HBO were slow and went the distance with nobodies. HBO is in the MONEY business and realize the Klits are not very profitable in America. Americans want excitement in the ring, not the same ol bore-snores.
Idiots who try to justify it’s a nationality issue probably haven’t noticed most of us want Kov to flatten Ward and Matthysse to destroy our very own Broner…

Posted August 14, 2013 10:52 am 


PEEJ

Yeah ok. I am actually Italian and Hispanic. Dude.

Posted August 14, 2013 10:52 am 


PEEJ

See always trying to make it about race. So GGG is now a golden house boy? You are so confusing. Sorry to burst your bubble but I am a white guy. And the Klitchkos are not popular in the US. Maybe for you but for most of the Americans we could care less. Has nothing to do with being signed to HBO. Has everything to do with the fact that they don’t pull in good ratings here in America.

Posted August 14, 2013 9:49 am 


PEEJ

And I never said Floyd is a small WW. But for someone who walks around at 150 then yeah I could say he is a small welter. Considering he came out of jail weighing less that 147. Yeah I guess you could make that claim and say he is a small WW. I simply said that he is not a Jr Middleweight. Which he isn’t. But neither is GGG

Posted August 14, 2013 9:47 am 


PEEJ

I don’t know if he would have no chance against Wilder or Jennings. Thompson for the most part is beating better fighters than they are. So until they step it up then I can’t say they are better than Thompson.

Posted August 14, 2013 9:44 am 


PEEJ

Once again GGG coming in on fight night 170 or higher is not a small middleweight. So sorry but you are wrong. Sorry don’t mean to prove you wrong on a constant basis but it just happens that way. You say he can make 154 but yet he has never made that in his pro career. You say he is a small middleweight yet he comes in 170 or higher on fight night. Unless you mean he is short for a middleweight. But I don’t think he is short neither.

Posted August 14, 2013 9:43 am 


THE REAL AMERICAN OAK

No heavyweight in the USA is the next Big Thing. Forget weight for a minute and look at KOs. Wilder, and Stevens, 2 B fighters get a KO and they are calling out the baddest in their weight classes. One KO does not make you the MAN. Stevenson is also in for a big surprise. Explosive KOs from head hunters get eaten alive by the real champs.

Posted August 14, 2013 8:53 am 


Love-the-Sport

Assyrian God … if there is no major heavyweight competition from the US, then you are basically saying that the Klitschkos and this era of heavyweights are over-rated.

I agree with that.

In comparison to previous eras, the Klitschkos are good but not great and for sure not all time great.

Both Klitschkos have significant losses in their careers (Brewster, Sanders, Byrd, and Lennox Lewis himself).

They have been good but not great and they have not passed major tests when under real pressure. Now that they are getting older and near retirement, I doubt that they will every fight Dontay Wilder — and Wilder would not be ready for the Klitsckos for 2-3 years. So, we will never know.

Posted August 14, 2013 7:32 am 


Pat Mustard

It’s impossible to say how good Wilder is until he starts facing live opponents, he looks amazing against stiffs but his David Price moment could be just around the corner, it was just 8 months ago that Price was more highly regarded.

Solis would be a great fight, if not then I would like to see him against Arreola. Mitchell would get knocked out early by Wilder.

Posted August 14, 2013 4:22 am 


Turbo-Hamster

Honestly I didn`t take to the Klitschkos for the longest time.

Partly it`s the inclination to favour a fighter over a thinker.

That’s not to say I don`t appreciate a guy out-thinking his opponent, laying traps etc, but I think there is more admiration when the guy HAS to outhink his opponent because the opponent is bigger/faster/more powerful etc.

But to a large extent the Klitschkos have come in looking better conditioned, stronger, faster, bigger and just bl00dy better than everyone else.
You get the feeling sometimes they are a cat torturing a mouse with their jabs, when it`s time to have a bit of elan and just put someone away. Steward screaming at Wlad in the corner to KO Eddie Chambers epitomised this.

But Wlad particularly, he basically taken my preconceptions and shoved them up my @rse when I really stop to look at his whole career. He has come back from adversity to dominate the division. He has a highlight reel of knockouts over years that are a match for anyone – putting people lights out with the left and the right hand. He`s an awesome awesome beast, and by far my favourite of the two.

I think the main reason he isn`t big in the US is that he doesn`t have a dance partner worthy of him, and hasn`t had for a long time.

Posted August 14, 2013 2:55 am 


TARK

PEEJ…. Thompson isn’t our best heavyweight. Because he beat Price??? Thompson would have no chance vs Wilder or Jennings. He’s an old man.

Posted August 14, 2013 1:01 am 


Turbo-Hamster

The tools metaphor is apt since Wilder puts me in mind of the saying..

“To a man carrying a hammer, everything is a nail”

Posted August 14, 2013 12:19 am 


Rem

Well Wilder seems to have some serious tools but we just won’t know until he steps up the level of competition. But truly even if he is great where are the big fights for him at hw. From what I’ve seen of him he brings that same slow 6′ 7″ fighting style so he’ll need a great rival or 2. I personally love great boxing now matter how boring people feel a methodical style is so i’ll follow Wilder but he’s not even as nimble as Lewis was at that size and Lewis didn’t have a fan friendly style.

Posted August 13, 2013 11:20 pm 


Turbo-Hamster

It`s little known by David Haye actually teaches Tango lessons, he loves the latin beats. One day Wilder turned up to the dance school.

He walked in, then walked straight out.

Because he knows he is not, and never will be in David Hayes class.

Posted August 13, 2013 10:56 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

I’d LOVE to call in and verbally SPANK someone.

Posted August 13, 2013 10:48 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

What time is the show???

Posted August 13, 2013 10:47 pm 


Greylo

Thanks for the support guys. I give Deontay my best wishes in his rise.
He’s got tremendous power in his right hand. That Liakhovich KO was demented. Downright scary. I’m American so of course I’m rooting for him. Color isn’t important to me in any way. There are boxers from every corner of the world. I love a boxer with devastating power and the drive to make a KO happen. Wlad has power but I just don’t like his style very much. Vitali has a more fight friendly style.

We’ll just have to see what happens.

Posted August 13, 2013 9:11 pm 


PEEJ

Cunningham really isn’t a heavy but ok he is in shape, Jennings and Wilder too. Now go ahead and name some more. Most European heavies are in shape. Our beat heavy in Tony Thimpson doesn’t even come in very good shape.

Posted August 13, 2013 9:09 pm 


Anonymous

PEEJ…. “It’s a fact that our American Heavies are out of shape.”

That’s complete nonsense… Who is in better shape than Jennings, Wilder, and Cunningham???

Frazier??? Ali??? Quarry??? … I’ve seen them all in really terrible shape.

Posted August 13, 2013 8:54 pm 


Hosteen

Tim Puller will soon be back in action after a 13 year hiatus -Sounds like a classic Wilder opponent

Posted August 13, 2013 8:51 pm 


PEEJ

See and you always try to turn it into a race thing. It has nothing to do with race. But it does have everything to do with the fact that when the Klitchkos fight the ratings aren’t that great.

Posted August 13, 2013 8:50 pm 


PEEJ

Be all over what? You gonna come up with more lies? Like saying GGG is a small middleweight that doesn’t come in or barely holds 160? Please. I will post on any article. If the Klits where exciting then Americans would want to watch them. We don’t just a fact. They don’t draw ratings and that’s why HBO stopped putting them on the airwaves. That’s a fact. Stop crying about it. Americans like the lower weight classes. That’s why HBO and Showtime put them on there network. Has nothing to do with them not being American. Cubans get airtime, Australians do, GGG is not American yet the networks are craving his fights. That foreign crap is garbage

Posted August 13, 2013 8:48 pm 


BIG FOOT

It’s cool Graylo, Tyson had a long amateur career.

Posted August 13, 2013 8:18 pm 


Dan D

Have to say I am a sceptic when it comes to Wilder but, tomato cans or not, he is battering everyone they out in front of him. SL was a world champ, faded or not. The guy is starting to impress and make headlines. He needs to be in line for a title shot in 2014 without doubt. Wlad Klitschko needs an opponent of note after he slays AP.

Posted August 13, 2013 8:07 pm 


Mr Gav

How many articles on wilder now? Like 10 since he’s last fight so I will sum it up. Yes wilder has been feed 29 bums either never good or way past good,but he has knocked them all out quick which I doubt any other contenders would do any better. And yes wilder needs better fighters starting with someone durable but with small punching power to five wilder some rounds,then working up to more dangerous fighters before working onto waldimir in 5 or 6 fights time. But after 29 fights and Olympic bronze he can now be ready for higher calabour of competion.(seeing though as fury is fighting hate after just 25 fights and a win would give him waldimir for sure). So that’s wrapped up till his next fight is set up there’s nothing more to be said on denotay

Posted August 13, 2013 8:05 pm 


Joseph Herron

Be nice to Greylo, guys…this isn’t the Politico forum…lol

Posted August 13, 2013 7:58 pm 


Greylo

Well I am new to boxing so I don’t have the understanding that some of you guys with all the experience. I’m no fool though.

Posted August 13, 2013 7:56 pm 


Anonymous

Bad punctuation, sorry. The point is that critics need to step off wilder he’s got no reason to rush things the arreola-Mitchell winner is a good next step for a guy who never boxed until after the age of 20.

Posted August 13, 2013 7:26 pm 


Anonymous

Greylo that’s just stupid analysis, mike Tyson comparisons make you sound like a fool, a fighter with wilders body and style is going to hit his peak later, whereas a compact, combo puncher like Tyson peaks young. This guys amateur background is limited, heavyweights 6’5 and over peak in their 30S usually, bowe being the rate exception.

Posted August 13, 2013 7:22 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

He might be avoided by some but I think a lot of fighters would seek to be the first one to beat him and take his rep.

Posted August 13, 2013 6:56 pm 


eric

I wish wilder would just fight somebody already, come on man, wilder your really piss n me off. Taking it slow is fine but this is crazy. Its like a kid waiting for christmas morning to arive coz u want to open presents just to find out its a big turd in the box. Fight somebody or just shut the hell up man.

Posted August 13, 2013 6:53 pm 


Greylo

Is Deontay another Ernie Shavers?

I know I would love to see this guy do well. Yes when the Klitschko bros retire who else is left in this poor division. I mean if he got a title shot with a Klitschko then his career would be in jeopardy but he’s taking it very slowly so who knows what will happen. He took a baby step with Liakhovich so his next fight should be someone meaningful. Tyson became the heavyweight champion at 20 years old so Deontay needs to get on it now.

He’s got potential but there are so many unanswered questions about his chin, stamina, as someone mentioned also his ability to fight going backwards. I love a heavyweight that has good KO power but I do want to see him in with a fighter that can take a punch and deliver his own.

I think if he got a Haye fight that would be something. Arreola is rough and tough so that’d be big. I will be super deflated if he gets another tomatoe can to KO. I don’t know how long these things take but am hoping to hear announcement about who he’ll fight next. It had better be someone meaningful.

Posted August 13, 2013 6:52 pm 


HHLondon

There ain’t many HW’s out there that like to fight and like to knock people out.

Most wanna paw their way to 12rnd decisions.

Even though Wilder doesn’t have any names on his rec yet, at 27, with very heavy hands and ferocious aggression, there’s not many out there that could handle his early ferocity or power.

Wilder will be avoided and for good reason and only WK would have the brains to hold him at arms length.

It’s about time the WBC forced V Klitschko into fighting or giving up the belt.

It’s been nearly 12 months since he beat Charr and all he’s doing is preventing other fighters from earning a real living.

Posted August 13, 2013 6:49 pm 


K2 Fan

” Americans couldn’t care less about the heavyweight division ” ….. Is that why
now that the heavyweights are bigger , better and stronger than at any time in history , and come from ALL corners of the world , not ONLY America , is that
why Americans claim that boxing is ” dying ” and especially the heavyweight division is boring and nobody is interested ? That is a very narrow point of view and all it does , is promote nostalgic and exaggerated reminiscenses of
the ” legendary ” greats of the past , who for the most part would not even
be considered real heavyweights today , never mind speculating how they would do against the better fighters of today , let alone against today’s
champions . The longer this point of view persists , the longer the U.S is going
to have to wait for a real crop of top contenders . If you don’t believe me , check the medal haul from the last Olympics .

Posted August 13, 2013 6:47 pm 


Joseph Herron

Everyone will see a much different version of Wlad on October 5th.

After he KO’s Sasha in dramatic fashion on HBO, ken Hershman will want him back on the network. Today’s version of Wladimir klitschko is a much more entertaining fighter than the one HBO dismissed several years ago.

Right now, with the success of Showtime last several fight cards and the big September 14th PPV coming up, HBO needs Wladimir Klitschko!!

Posted August 13, 2013 6:31 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

I think Arreola would take him. The general belief though is that “He’s only as good as his last fight”. But he had 14 months off which he may not have used so wisely and was ill if I remember correctly and had the fight postponed. Arreola doesn’t seek riches but rather just an upper middle class lifestyle, so that shows a lack of hunger. But if he can get himself up to being at his best, then he’ll beat Wilder. Arreola has a good chin, never been counted out and
I believe just down once which was against Stiverne who is a powerful puncher almost like Wilder. Wilder might be improving his defense but he still needs better reflexes for utilizing that. IMO

Posted August 13, 2013 6:30 pm 


moonshineman

He needs to fight someone with a pulse. Then we’ll see.

Posted August 13, 2013 6:26 pm 


Informer

There has been unfair bias against the Klits in America. If they were American they would be in action movies, on cereal boxes and all over the media. It almost looked like HBO was going to promote Wlad as the next big thing, but that was right before the Corrie Sanders fight. Then they just seem to always wait for him to lose in all of his upcoming fights. These are some very respectable and stand up guys that our country could have benefited from knowing. You could not ask for better representatives for the sport, as international spokespersons and for their great skill. And as I have said before, ironically, in America where capitalism rules: If those guys would have been in the American limelight it would have inspired someone to go after them to take their place and increased competition. But they were hidden away like some dirty little secret while Americans went after alphabet soup belts. When they finally lose it won’t matter, like Bhop. How can you be happy with an old guy losing!

Posted August 13, 2013 6:05 pm 


Informer

Not just what happens to him when he faces any good opposition, but what happens to him when he gets beaten. Yes, I said it. When he get’s beaten. Because all heavyweights get beaten. All of the true heavyweight champions got beaten and only the true greats came back once they were beaten. He can be taught skill, and believe me, he has a lot of room for improvement in that department. But you can’t teach heart. You can’t teach character. As Teddy Atlas says you can’t teach someone how to behave like a Man and a Fighter in that ring. All of the greats had to show heart, including the Klits. When Wlad lost he was completely humiliated. So was Lewis. Ali had to come back after a big loss. No matter how many great trainers you have around you when you lose you are alone because virtually everyone seems to turn on you. Where Joe Louis, Wlad, Lennox Lewis and some of the others corrected their flaws and became stronger after losing can Wilder do it? We will have to see.

Posted August 13, 2013 5:53 pm 


Joseph Herron

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Posted August 13, 2013 5:48 pm 


Joseph Herron

Guys,

i just received confirmation that Deontay Wilder will be our first guest on tonight’s edition of “The Pugilist KOrner”!!

If you have any questions for The Bronze Bomber, call in at 718-506-1506!!

Also on the show will be Jermall Charlo, Daniel Geale, and King Carlos Molina!!

Great show tonight!!

Posted August 13, 2013 5:47 pm 


PEEJ

Nope not bitter at all. But it’s a fact that our American Heavies are out of shape. I don’t see how that is being bitter. It’s the fact. And like I said we like the lighter weight classes. Which is probably why the get paid more than the heavies.

Posted August 13, 2013 5:25 pm 


PEEJ

And I know heavyweight boxing is big in other parts of the world. I don’t live in other parts of the world, I live in America and can speak on that because I am american. And we most definitely could care less about the Heavyweight division. Only reason Wilder is getting ink is because of the way he is knocking these guys out.

Posted August 13, 2013 4:48 pm 


PEEJ

They don’t fail to properly promote them. They are just boring. The heavyweight division sucks and has sucked for a while now. So sorry to dispoint you but no we don’t care about that division. Americans already know the Klitchkos are the best in the division. We don’t care to see to out of shape fighters hugging the whole time after the 2nd minute of the first round. We would much rather see the lighter weight divisions because of the action. Because of the skills. I am a true boxing fan, a true boxing fan that does not care about the heavyweights. Ill stay between 122 and 175.

Posted August 13, 2013 4:47 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

“Actually Americans could care less about the heavyweight division… We like the lighter weight classes. If we actually cared about the Heavies then the Klitchkos would be on TV here.”

Wrong! If you don’t care about the HW division, then you’re not a REAL boxing fan. Americans wouldn’t even bother to comment on these threads about HWs if they didn’t care about the division. Your motivation behind making these sort of comment is blatantly obvious to me, PEEJ.

The Klitschkos are not on TV more often in America because HBO and Showtime failed to properly promote them, so they choose to fight out of Germany instead of the U.S. HW boxing is bigger than ever in Europe and other parts of the world, and that’s why they fill soccer stadiums over there. The K-Bros don’t need HBO or Showtime and American PPV to be super successful and make mega-millions. Real talk.

Posted August 13, 2013 4:36 pm 


FEARS

His opposition as of late isn’t as soft as many make it out to be; however, it is now time to step it up, which I really feel he will. He still has a few bad habits, which leads me to wonder if his team is addressing those issues or just allowing him to roll with his physical attributes. I would’ve loved to see him under the tutelage of the great Emmanuel Steward, but I’ve heard great things about Sugar Hill continuing the teachings of Steward, and if that’s the case, maybe Kronk would still be a great place for Wilder.

Posted August 13, 2013 4:32 pm 


Bonzo

I think he should fight one of the smaller heavyweights and maybe then we can see if he can be anything significant in the division.
I would like to see him against Adamek,Chambers(don’t think fast Eddie will go back to criuser) evn Haye.

Posted August 13, 2013 4:31 pm 


wiseass

For me hes a little cumbersome and one dimensional , although he does have good power! He telegraphs is right had and tends to over reach to leaving himself off balance , perfect for a counter right hand . Lewis found this out the hard way, and when wilder moves up in class I see the same thing happening. with his power and reach he as a punchers chance for sure!

Posted August 13, 2013 3:26 pm 


Prof Konje

PEEJ said it. Americans no longer are infatuated with the heavyweight division and it has nothing to do with the Klitchko brothers who are excellent boxers. All of the action has been in the lower weight classes such as 140 and 147 (among others). At one time the heavyweights were the glorified class but no longer. It seems that the boxer are getting much larger (taller and heavier) than in the past, but the division just isn’t exciting. Wilder may be very good but only time will tell. No sense in making mythical match-ups. Just sit back, watch and wait.

Posted August 13, 2013 3:02 pm 


ray gordon reid

TIME TO STEP UO DEONATY

Posted August 13, 2013 2:59 pm 


The Stonewall

The answer to this question is: we don’t know he hasn’t fought a live opponent yet.

He certainly has some impressive attributes, but remains untested. To give him credit his power has concealed any possible weaknesses up until now (apart from the fact he appears crude/raw) can he take a shot? Does he has stamina? Can he dig deep when required?

He’s a crowd-pleaser and I wish him all the best. Time to step-up and show the fans if you are the real-deal.

Posted August 13, 2013 2:44 pm 


timmers612

The last 29-0 with 29 ko’s was Jose Urtain, hopefull Wilder won’t end up showing us he’s a bust also.

Posted August 13, 2013 2:41 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Americans could care less about the heavyweight division. We are not dying for any heavy at all. He is just producing a lot of KOs so he is going to be talked about. We like the lighter weight classes. If we actually cared about the Heavies then the Klitchkos would be on TV here.

Posted August 13, 2013 2:41 pm 


GhettoWizzard

No. He has zero charisma and is a limited puncher. He can KO a lot of old men, that we know.

Posted August 13, 2013 2:35 pm 


BRUCE

SAME AS THE REST OF THEM ALL WANKERS.

Posted August 13, 2013 2:33 pm 


Jaguar

Wilder has good power, other than that he is average. Haye would KO wilder out violently as he is better in every department including power. Haye thrives/and is most comfortable at countering and Wilder the swinging lunatic with little technique will be open all night. Wouldn’t expect to see it go past 4 or 5.

Posted August 13, 2013 2:16 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

dream on,this muppet will never be a great!!!!

Posted August 13, 2013 2:13 pm 


PEEJ

At this particular point and time he is. But he still needs to step up a bit more. If he fights the winner of Mitchell vs Arreola then that will be a really good step up because he will be fighting Arreola. Also it may already be time to fight Thompson. Knocking guys out in the 1st rounds is not really too helpful

Posted August 13, 2013 2:10 pm 


rectal ranger

americas next best thing? who has he beaten?

Posted August 13, 2013 2:09 pm 


old daves cave

the answer is NO

Posted August 13, 2013 2:07 pm 



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