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It’s Me, Ernie

Real dumb talk.

Posted September 2, 2013 12:01 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

I’ve got more heart and courage than all you cyber-warrior cowards put together. Real talk.

Posted September 2, 2013 5:30 am 


TonyG.G.Galento

square-head is just a weak keyboard hero who fels his shlong has ben cut off if anyone disagrees with him. No real self confidence there, a loser!

Posted September 2, 2013 2:24 am 


AssyrianGod

And no one BACKS DOWN from ridiculous online challenges to A FIGHT or THREATS, no one would seriously consider it even worth responding to. I ve never met anyone who becomes a coward because some random faceless stranger online asserts that they will ko them or break their jaw etc, would you? No! Nor would I or anyone else on ESB, most would consider it juvenile, empty and ridiculous.

Posted August 31, 2013 9:42 pm 


AssyrianGod

Square Circle – Give me ONE SINGLE instance where I was threatening, violent, aggressive, abusive, patronizing, condescending or rude to you BEFORE you personally and racially abused me??? You seem to equate INTELLIGENT and RESPECTFUL disagreement as a personal insult and threat, why? Unless you are deeply insecure or suffer from some form of narcissistic personality disorder, you let your own intellect and education (and upbringing) down by acting and reacting like that.

Posted August 31, 2013 9:37 pm 


AssyrianGod

Yes, you DO make stupid threats and personal abuse to those that disagree RESPECTFULLY with you..WHY?

Posted August 31, 2013 9:31 pm 


TomCribb

Square Circle u are formally and technically the biggest A-Hole on ESB! Love the way when you get beat down u threaten to shoot, stab or beat total strangers youll never meet..educated my ass, yer a keyboard troll/warrior! lool

Posted August 31, 2013 10:42 am 


CROMWELL

Take a lesson from the Brits and stay out of it. Let them do themselves in. Also Lewis was the one being pummeled around the ring not Vitali. He was lucky that VK received that cut like Billy Backus was lucky he cut Napoles. Lennox should have been in shape, he was the one due for a title bout. He was afraid of a rematch with the Ukrainian and retired. The Brits disown him in my opinion.

Posted August 30, 2013 1:32 pm 


Anonimouse

LL wasnt no way in peak shape in that fight but still had Vit’s face busted up and him gasping for air…says it all over whose the best of the two.
Square Circle, you sure do talk some crap! lmfao

Posted August 30, 2013 11:54 am 


BIG FOOT

Well Vitali was certainly the most inspirational one in the fight with LL, Lewis was the lucky one. He was to retire, his luck probably wouldn’t have lasted.
No SC, the USA should really stay out of Syria IMO. The near future with the Obama administration looks scary enough as is.

Posted August 30, 2013 3:51 am 


TARK

That’s what Steward himself told me… you blubbering drooling idiot.

Posted August 30, 2013 2:06 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Yeah right Tard, now you’re tight with the Klitschko sisters. LMAO, what a story teller not to mention a known ball-gazer…

Posted August 30, 2013 1:31 am 


TARK

Emmanuel Steward.., The Klitschko brothers are the 2 most organized men I’ve ever met. They actually come into training camp much lighter than they fight.. They’re so busy with so many activities they miss a lot of meals.. But once in camp they have a chef making specially prepared meals, and they’re working out with weights and exercising and putting on muscle, and getting bigger, stronger, and faster. Wladimir will start at 235 and put on 10 or 15 pounds in camp.

That’s the way every heavyweight should do it because they have obviously lasted for a very long time at the World Championship level.

Posted August 29, 2013 11:30 pm 


AssyrianGod

For your information Square Rectum, Assyrians are Christians, not Syrians and are a mountain people, where there are no camels!…AHOLE!

Posted August 29, 2013 5:12 pm 


Adrian

Assyriangod–if Lewis was unprepared and all of that he could have easily prepare for the reamatch and show us how he fairs against klitchko 100% prepared so that he wouldn’t leave any doubt that he was better then klitchko because the win he got left more then doubt and that is his fouls by not giving klitchko a rematch !

Posted August 29, 2013 1:08 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Damn, get a life, no one cares about how you see the world Bozo…

Posted August 29, 2013 11:48 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

AssyrianFraud:
I never said that Lewis chose to fight out of the UK only for economic reasons. Boxing has always been FAR more popular in the UK than in Canada. Fact. Plus the UK has about twice the population of Canada. Lewis was smart enough to realize that it would be easier and faster to build a huge fan-base in the UK than it would be in Canada. Even an Iraqi/Syrian towel-headed camel jockey, who grew up in Africa, should be able to understand why it is was smarter to launch his pro career from “boxing-friendly” Britain as opposed to “hockey-friendly” Canada. Britain was simply a better market for pro boxing — and still is to this day. And LL also knew that he’d never be accepted and embraced as an American during the Tyson/Holyfield/Bowe era. So what was the second biggest market for HW boxing at that time??? The UK.

In pro boxing, building a huge, loyal fan-base is what leads to higher ratings, more media coverage, bigger fights, more ticket and merchandise sales, and more PPV and cable TV sales. All these factors eventually lead to the fighter becoming rich & famous faster and making much more money throughout the course of his career. This is Pro Boxing 101 from a business perspective.

The fact that LL actually fought the majority of his fights in the U.S. only further supports my argument that he’s NEVER been overly concerned with representing Britain. Back then, the vast majority of the big money HW fights were held in the U.S., so making money was clearly more important to LL than national pride. Not only that, but Lewis was being closely trained by Manny Steward who owned/operated the famous Kronk Gym in Detroit. Therefore, it’s only logical that LL spent a good deal of time during his pro career living and training in the U.S. And if he was already training in the U.S., than it only made logical sense to fight in the U.S.

Why has LL spent the last 10 years living in Jamaica and Miami if he’s so very British and concerned with representing the UK??? You said that he lived in Canada for 15 years. Add that 15 to the past 10 years and he’s already spent the majority of his life living in countries other than the UK. And by the time he dies, he will have spent just a small portion of his life living in Britain. That’s not what a true British patriot, who loves representing his country, would do. Is it??? Of course not.

Why did Lewis choose to represent Canada in the Olympics TWICE and salute the Canadian flag while singing the anthem “O Canada” after winning the Gold Medal??? He could’ve represented GB in the Olympics if he really wanted to. Please answer that question with legit facts that make sense!

BTW….you say that you’re proud of being British above all else, but your name on ESB has always been “Assyrian God.” Why not “British God?” Because you’re proud of your Assyrian ethnicity above all else – even your nationality. If Lewis were a regular on ESB, he would likely use a handle like “Jamaican Lion.”

That’s because both this parents are Jamaican-born immigrants, his wife was born and raised in Jamaica, and he lives in Jamaica at least half the time. Lewis is totally Jamaican by ethnicity/culture, NOT Scottish. Fact. And he’s been a Canadian citizen for the vast majority of his life, so he’s EVERY BIT as much Canadian as he is British. Just know and accept that Canadians consider LL to be Canadian, and so do many Americans. But Jamaicans consider him to be Jamaican.

America is full of tens of millions of people who were born in other countries, but now live in the U.S., so consider themselves to be Americans. My point is that it really doesn’t matter so much where someone is born. What REALLY matters is where you choose to live out your life. And LL has chosen to live the majority of his life outside the UK. Even more importantly, he’s chosen to not live in Britain at all since retiring from boxing with enough mega-millions to live the HIGH LIFE in any country/island of his desire. He chooses Jamaica and the USA… and I don’t blame him one damn bit. I’ve seen enough of the UK to know that I don’t ever want to live there.

Posted August 29, 2013 11:40 am 


dwc

Lewis had the mind-set of a fighter heading into retirement more out of the sport then in it…V.K. had the mind-set of the young hungry lion…but sadly it still wasnt enough…

Posted August 29, 2013 6:25 am 


dwc

Tyson was suppose to fight on the undercard of Lewis-Johnson but when Tyson pulled out they put V.K. vs undefeated Boswell on the card instead.So V.K. and Lewis started training around the SAME time for their fights.When Johnson got hurt then V.K. stepped up to fight Lewis instead..you can find these facts on google about the events of this fight.The big diffrance is Lewis wasnt in a gym or the ring for about a year…V.K. was in the ring 2x within a year and ofcourse the gym staying active.And Tark pure nonsence V.K. beat Lewis…the reason its on boxrec as having Lewis the winner is because he won the fight.Lewis showed he was a seasoned fighter while V.K. was still abit green not knowing what to do in close quaters.There was no protest of the dec. because team V.K. knew they lost…pure and simple.

Posted August 29, 2013 6:15 am 


AssyrianGod

Perhaps he wasnt preparing to fight anybody, but he was in great shape. The fact is, Lewis was not his usual self in that fight. He was over weight, lacked speed, reflexes, stamina etc. Perhaps that is his own fault, but that is another matter.

Posted August 29, 2013 5:41 am 


Adrian

Assyrian god– ok so tell us who then vitally thought would fight before he got an ofer just two weeks before the fight? You keep telling us Lewis was prepared for Johnson but you don’t even mention the fact that vitally didnt even know he as fighting anyone my friend … Be honest please…

Posted August 29, 2013 3:44 am 


AssyrianGod

Tark, Lewis was in horrible shape, fat, no snap, no speed or reflexes, because he was training for a poor opponent who in Kirk Johnson, who he was rightly confident he would simply bludgeon down in 1 or 2 rounds. He underestimated how much better and different Vitali would be, I suspect he thought Vitali was similar to Michael Grant.
As for Bruno, he wasnt a bad fighter, he pulled off some good wins against the likes of Carl Williams, Oliver McCall, Jesse Furguson, Tillis, Coetzee, Bugner, Ribalta, Coetzer and a few others, his first fight with Tyson was ok, his second I agree was apalling. He gave a good account of himself against Witherspoon and Lewis too. Bruno’s problem was that he was never taught how to react when he got hit.
Gary Mason was a very tough, strong, durable and hard hitting fighter too, crude admittedly, but not many fighters in that era would have an easy time with him.
Akinwande had great skills, and pulled off some big wins, He was faded when McCall caught him, but then Bruno beat McCall. Akinwande showed a lack of heart in some fights, Vs Lewis and Scott Welch particularly. Not sure why he seemed terrified of getting hit by Welch as he beat a lot of better fighters than him.
Hide would have been a great Cruiser, but he was just too small for the likes of Bowe and Vitali, even though he gave Bowe trouble before getting careless. I’d still rate him over many of the contenders of that era though.
Welch could have been decent, but no one taught him how to box.
Bugner was weirdly still able to pull off wins at a certain level against much younger guys.
There were a few others like Clifton Mitchell, Derek Williams, James Oyebola, Jess Harding and Julius Francis too, more Euro/Domestic Level, but they kept the division active in the UK.

Posted August 29, 2013 3:11 am 


Anonymous

Tark

Posted August 29, 2013 1:04 am 


Anonymous

creep

Posted August 29, 2013 12:06 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Yada yada yada twerp…

Posted August 28, 2013 11:14 pm 


TARK

Also.., Lewis did what he had to do to win with a corrupt referee.. He opened those cuts with foul blows and the fight should have gone to the scorecards.

An easy win for Vitali on a technical stoppage and unanimous decision.

Posted August 28, 2013 10:25 pm 


TARK

Assyrian God.., Lewis was in better shape than Vitali.. Lewis had been training for a Heavyweight Championship Fight for months.. Vitali trained for only 2 weeks for a tite fight.. I think tha main reason Lewis squelshed the rematch is because Vitali would have had 2 months to prepare … enough time to train for a fight of world title importance.

Bruno, Hide, and Akinwande weren’t a formidable lineup.. Vitali took Hide out in 2 rounds without even trying.. Bruno was extremely crude and looked horrendous fighting Tyson both times.. He was a punching bag.. Akinwande was better–but I remember McCall knocking him out cold with a shot to the chin.

Haye-Fury is actually going to be a fight between 2 great heavyweights.. They’re both much better than that trio.

Posted August 28, 2013 10:22 pm 


AssyrianGod

@Square Circle – Lewis fought most of his fights in North America, ergo he obviously didnt fight out of Britain for either financial reasons or physical convenience, but because it was the nation of his birth, his parents being Jamaican is irrelevant. My father is an ethnic Assyrian born in Iraq, my mothers grandfather in Southern Ireland, and I grew up in Zambia, and yet I consider myself British.
On another note, many Jamaicans have British ancestry, particularly from Scotland, as the island was used as a dumping ground during the Highland Clearances in the 18th century…Unsurprisingly then both LENNOX and LEWIS are Scottish names, as are quite a few names very common in Jamaica such as McKenzie, Grant and Stewart. So you an go full circle with that argument. Lewis CHOSE to box for the country of his birth and where he spent his formative years, not for Jamaica where his mother was born, nor Canada, where he lived for 15 years, that’s good enough for me, and should be for you too.

Posted August 28, 2013 9:16 pm 


AssyrianGod

@Tark – Lewis did beat another Brit in Henry Akinwande in a World Title fight, and in his first reign he also beat Frank Bruno. Britain actually had a decent line up of Heavies in the 90′s with Lewis, Bruno, Hide, Akinwande and to a lesser degree Scott Welch and the Australia based and old Joe Bugner.
Disagree that Vitali beat Lewis though, I think Lewis did what champions do, found a way to win, ill prepared though he was in that fight.

Posted August 28, 2013 9:08 pm 


AssyrianGod

The very fact that Lewis actually fought the majority of his fights in North America somewhat defeats Square Circles logic that Lewis only fought out of Britain for financial resons.

Posted August 28, 2013 9:02 pm 


TARK

Lewis got KO’d twice… But everyone who had that many title fights has been beaten.

Lewis beat every fighter he ever fought except Vitlai Klitschko. Vitali beat everyone but Byrd … That was kind of a fluke loss.

Posted August 28, 2013 8:03 pm 


CARLOS

Well TARK I think it would be very likely that some champion prior to Lewis could have beaten him, seeing how he got ko’d by Rahman and McCall.
Also getting back to Vitali fight, I also believe that there was a good clash of heads in there as well as the glove rubbing.

Posted August 28, 2013 7:58 pm 


TARK

Only 2 of Lennox Lewis’s last 20 fights were fought in England… The rest were all fought in North America..His KO loss to McCall and his win over 2nd rater Frans Botha were the exceptions … None of those 20 fights came against a Brit — of course Brittan didn’t have the heavyweight line-up they have today.

Lewis is reponsible for David Price going back in with Tony Thompson right after the greener than greenhorn got knocked out by TT… Lewis thought with his expert training tips Price was a shoo-in to win… Of course Lennox never fought a southpaw — so obviously there was something lacking.

Good play… if you’re Thompson.

Posted August 28, 2013 4:44 pm 


TonyG.G.Galento

@Square Circle, Are you some kind of retard? Lewis was born British and never gave up his citizenship. He MOVED to Canada, then movd back, and ALWAYS entered the ring with the Union Jack flying. Chris Eubank didnt wear Union Jack shorts, so what? lol LL woulda made more money just staying in North America, that was where the money was in boxing back then, he went home because he was a Brit by Birth, moron! And my argument stands, Ali was a Ghanaian-Irishman by your logic.

Posted August 28, 2013 3:11 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

BOO HOO for those idiots that can’t let a ten year old bout result go. Pitiful…

Posted August 28, 2013 3:00 pm 


TARK

David Haye is a once and perhaps future heavyweight champion. Fury is a possible future heavyweight champion.

Great Brittan is doing well and coming on. They have the greatest talent in their history — but Lewis fought in a weak era with a lack of big, tall, powerful heavyweights who could box well.. Beating the timid Tyson and Holyfield — and having the cowardly Bowe duck you forever are not the greatest plaudits — but nontheless, Lewis was the greatest heavyweight up to his day. I don’t see a heavyweight who came before Lewis who would beat him.

Vitali obviously got the better of Lewis on all 3 scorecards — in a fight that begged to be sent to the scorecards because of the foul tactics Lewis employed to inflict 3 deep, jagged cuts on Vitali’s face.

If holding and hitting is legal… If cuffing and striking with the thumb, edge, palm, and heel of the glove are all legal… Then of course Lewis won… But if the fight was competently and honestly refereed, Vitali would have been declared the official winner because the fight would have gone to the scores … instead of just being the unofficial winner because he was winning on all 3 cards when the fight was stopped.

Posted August 28, 2013 2:28 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

“Let me educated you, fool”—> another classic BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Posted August 28, 2013 2:17 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Blah blah blah…

Posted August 28, 2013 2:16 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Tony.G.G.Galento: There is nothing weird about my logic. But your twisted logic that was explained by the following stupid comment is downright ridiculous: “then no US fighter who aint a Native American is an American..I mean Muhammad Ali? He is a Ghanaian-Irishman by your weird logic!”

Let me educated you, fool. Lewis was born in the UK to Jamaican-born immigrant parents and moved to Canada when he was still a little kid. He grew up in Canada, learned how to box in Canada, and has been a Canadian citizen for the MAJORITY of his life.

When an amateur boxer has dual citizenship, the country he chooses to represent at the Olympics says EVERYTHING about where his national allegiances truly lie. Lewis could’ve represented GB in the Olympics, but he chose to represent Canada — TWICE.

The reason LL decided to launch his pro boxing career from the UK is because he was already a citizen by birth, and the sport has much more history, popularity and money there than it has in Canada. He was smart enough to know that he’d be more likely to become a fast-track rich & famous superstar fighting out of the UK. It was a business decision. Pure and simple.

But LL always had an American trainer and never wore the Union Jack trunks in the ring — like Haye, Chisora, Froch, Hatton and most other British fighters. In fact, he almost always wore white and red — the colors of the Canadian flag.

Bottom line is that Lewis has spent about half his life living outside of Britain. He now lives at a villa estate in Jamaica, is married to a Jamaican-born wife, and lives in Miami, FL the other half of the year — which has a large Jamaican population. Lewis has not lived in the UK for about 10 years, since shorty after he retired from boxing.

By the time LL dies…. he will have lived the VAST MAJORITY of his life in countries other that the UK. That combined with everything I’ve explained (above), should give you a very accurate and realistic idea of just how British he really is.

But of course Brits want to claim LL as one of their own because if they don’t, how far back would they have to go to claim a HW Champion of the World form Britain??? Answer: Bob Fitzsimmons in 1899. Just know that Canadians and Jamaicans also claim LL as one of their own.

REAL TALK

Posted August 28, 2013 1:58 pm 


Tark

I have been a top trainer for some of the best boxers ever. I am highly skilled, know every single thing about the sport, and one of the best analysts to ever grace the earth. I have the incredible ability to take just a couple of sniffs of a jock after a good workout and can correct such things as stance, defense and overall ring generalship.
I refuse to enter a verbal battle in real time on a radio show or live forum of any kind. No one in the sport either amateur or professional levels actually knows who I am since I survive on an internet website under a phoney screen name. I tried to bs my way with some martial arts mumbo-jumbo, but have since dropped that from my weak game since that idiot Earnie schooled me on the subject. The closest thing to a contact sport I have ever personally participated in was my award winning performances as a salad tosser when I was jailed for my sodomy rights activism demonstrations.

Posted August 28, 2013 12:56 pm 


Tony.G.G.Galento

Also, Vitali and his corner looked like they were beat and accepted it after the fight was stopped. Vitali looked depressed, down and tired. When the catcalls started he just totally changed his demeanor and acted all indignant, so he knew damn well he got beat.

Posted August 28, 2013 11:01 am 


dwc

Tark…The reason I belive VK lost that night,was because he was still abit green.He didnt know how to tie Lewis up on the inside,he let Lewis have free range with his hands in close range.Lewis was able to use sly tricks like Ali did Holmes did and Hopkins does,many others.If VK was more seasoned Lewis would not have been able to get off like he did Lewis being the more seasoned knew how to work those close quarter tanglements.Like slip-hit said why didnt team VK protest?Well I belive they knew there wasnt enough there,there protest wouldnt hold water.I mean this wasnt for a tin foil belt of the lower east side,this was the biggest prize in boxing,and if they knew they could have changed this into a no contest they would have,but they knew they didnt have enough on their side.

Posted August 28, 2013 9:41 am 


Tony.G.G.Galento

@SqareCircle/Lion King – LL is a Brit, if he aint, then no US fighter who aint a Native American is an American..I mean Muhammad Ali? He is a Ghanaian-Irishman by your weird logic! lol

Posted August 28, 2013 6:31 am 


Adrian

I agree totally tark ! In my oppinion vitally is undefited and yes I fought mavrovic in amaters at that time in fmr.yugoslavia he was top amater at that time I am younger then him and i was considered a supper prospect but unfortunately got injured and my carriere was over .

Posted August 28, 2013 2:50 am 


TARK

No, he fought a few times in the States and I ran into him… I guess both Mavrovic and yourself being Croatian you fought as amateurs … and I took you for an Eastern European … but I guess I didn’t keep up with all the postings on this thread or I wouldn’t have guessed Saleta.

When the subject turns to Lewis-Klitschko I often get into it… The fact that VK is 42, and has never been floored, and has never been behind on points in any pro fight is phenomenal … With any luck at all he’d be 47-0.

Posted August 28, 2013 1:32 am 


Adrian

Tark – no buddy I am not saleta bro ,he is polish and I am Croatian …you know saleta personally tark? He made a huge upset when he won against the unbeaten Krasniqi at the time but in the reamatch Krasniqi destroyed in in 1 round …

Posted August 28, 2013 12:11 am 


TARK

hit and slip…, The holding and hitting was extremely clear cut.. The cuffing and palming was more sly.. It was obvious the referee was favoring Lewis, just like it was obvious the same referee (Lou Moret) was favoring Guerrero in his Berto fight.

Once during the fight Lewis rubbed the palm of his glove directly into Vitali’s face right in front of the referee.. Moret didn’t even stop the action.. He just briefly held up the palm of his right hand in front of Lewis to make it look like he was repremanding him.. Lewis didn’t even look at him.. Moret seemed to be in Lewis’s pocket.

In fact, when Guerrero was holding and hitting Berto like crazy — with NO fouls being called by Lou Moret, Max Kellerman said, “Shades of Lennox Lewis” and the whole HBO team laughed — because that’s exactly what Lewis did to Vitali and Grant.. Lewis was the MOST notorious holder and hitter Kellerman could reference, and that’s why the whole crew thought it was so funny.

Posted August 27, 2013 8:22 pm 


hit and slip

I agree on the whole British thing,I dont know how LL really feels about England and all that,he does support alot of British fighters over the years,some he dosent.Myself I just liked him as a fighter,didnt care where he came from.Again Tark didnt see a real clear cut foul to go to the cards.and it seems very strange team V.K. wouldnt file a complate if something was that clear cut.

Posted August 27, 2013 6:18 pm 


TARK

hit and stip… “Vitali should have filed a protest.”

Yes.. A protest might have been successful … but in lieu of that, Lewis was ordered to defend against Vitali before he fought anyone else.

“Both guys were fouling.”

Even if that were true it doesn’t matter … a cut caused by anything but a legal punch still sends the fight to the scorecards…

Posted August 27, 2013 5:41 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Close to ten years ago, Lennox opened up a big cut with illegal blows and then the Fight Dr. stopped Vitali. It should’ve went to the cards and definitely would’ve in most fights — especially with instant replay.

More importantly, Lewis DUCKED the rematch, so Vitali retired Lewis forever and sent him packing to Jamaica with his head down and tail between his legs. He also has a house in Miami, so hasn’t lived in the UK for about 10 years.

And you Brits are still trying to claim Lewis just because he was born there… LOL. In reality, Lewis is a Jamaican-Canadian who represented Canada TWICE in the Olympics. Notice how he never wore the Union Jack trunks like Haye or Chisora??? That was no coincidence. These things say everything about how “British” Lewis really considers himself to be.

Posted August 27, 2013 5:26 pm 


hit and slip

TARK..Like Hatton said this is boxing not ping-pong(something like that) Anyway it was a rough and tumble fight,pushing,pulling the head down..both guys did it,abit of wrestling,both hit the ground like rugby players.Forearms came up it was abit of a circus at times,stumbling around the ring.But I watched the 3rd rd best I could and it wasnt like Tyson biting Holyfields ear nothing that clear.Again if the tactics by Lewis was that clear cut Im sure V.K. and his team would have filed a protest and won for a no contest…but that didnt happen.Also I belive if that fight went on V.K. might not be fighting today the eye was no joke,and I belive Lewis would have stopped him the way it looked as it went on.As for the bleeding the area around the eye is very thin skined,and V.K. never had a fighter like Lewis swinging on him like that connecting with precision and landing over and over in the same spot.

Posted August 27, 2013 5:25 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Close to ten years ago, Lennox stopped Vitali. For the nuthuggers who crave imported semen from the Ukraine, take a look at the the end of each of the last two rounds, it’s obvious that Vitali had more issues besides the vag that was forming over his eye.

The two fighters have moved on with their lives, wealth, fame, VK pursuing politics to help his country out, Lennox having a good time, having a family, enjoying the earnings of a long and successful career.

It’s funny how the loss works in the minds of the disturbed fan or three who are completely unknown to the principles, yet live their sad lives vicariously through them. Each fighter rec’d more from that single purse alone than the fools who worship Klit in their entire lives collectively…

Posted August 27, 2013 4:48 pm 


TARK

hit and slip.., It wasn’t legal man. Watch the 3rd round

Holding and hitting isn’t legal… Illegal use of the head is not legal… Hitting with the thumb, edge, palm, and heel of the glove isn’t legal.

Lewis punched Mavrovic for 12 rounds and never opened a single cut.. He never opened cuts like that on ANY other boxer in his whole career.. And Vitali wasn’t a bleeder.. Vitali was never cut anything like that in ANY other fight … It wasn’t legal punches that did any of that.

That fight goes to the scorecards… Vitali wins.

Posted August 27, 2013 4:17 pm 


TARK

Adrian.., Are you Przem Saleta by any chance? You sound a little bit like him.

Posted August 27, 2013 3:27 pm 


hit and slip

After the fight Larry M. was talking to Lewis like he was dog crap,no respect to the man like Lewis told the doctor to stop the fight.The crowd who was no big Lewis fans also reacted like Lewis stopped the fight not the doctor.Then V.K. showed no respect aswell trying to go after Lewis after the fight…so with all this going on Lewis should be a nice guy.Anybody who wanted to see this fight go on with that face split opened that needed 64 stiches and a chance of V.K. going blind in that eye,cant like V.K. to much..with friends like that..lol.As for the punch it was legal as Foreman said thats why it wasnt a no contest.And yes Lewis said in interviews he wasnt staying around to end up like Ali and Frazier he would retire when he could still enjoy life.If Lewis got caught with roids or loaded gloves or took a long count..so forth,then yes after suspension lets have a do over,but that wasnt the case he WON did what he set out to do even though he wasnt at his best,got the win check boxrec then had every right to retire after a succsesfull career.

Posted August 27, 2013 3:13 pm 


Adrian

Squared- Thank you bro! I meet him in NYC outside the trump hotel and believe it or not he was looking for one famous Chinese restaurant called “shun lee” and asked if I knew where it was lol what are the odds ha? And that was in 2006 and then I told him that we fought the same opponent (mavrovic ) he was like ” really you are a boxer? When?” Then we talked for awhile about boxing in general ,my carriere his carriere and a mutual friend we have ( secret) ….he is a gentleman and a cool guy !
Yes I do go in Croatia and I can tell you that if you go there for summer vacation on the Adriatic coast you will have the a great time you won’t get diss appointed …good food nice beech beautiful woman and is not crazy expensive …

Posted August 27, 2013 2:41 pm 


Adrian

@Kornerman… True ,most Likely that will happen but you still need a plan and in my oppinion that’s the best plan against klitchko… Make klitchko work more then you then change tactic and make him work even harder at the end of the fight …pulev can do that but the question is ,will he??

Posted August 27, 2013 2:28 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Adrian: That’s exactly right, bro! And just so you know… I enjoy reading your posts as well and agree with most of them. In what country did you meet Lewis and what year was it, if you don’t mind me asking? Ever go back to Croatia to visit or do you like it here in the U.S. (Brooklyn)?

Posted August 27, 2013 2:17 pm 


Adrian

Tark that’s exactly right !! Lewis was so nasty after the vitaly fight with Larry merchant he was never like that ,why ? He was pissed because the crowd was booing him and cheering for klitchko and said he would give him reamatch and just because he was so nasty to klitchko and pissed on him he should have given him a rematch and show us that he meant what he said! And this poster below who says vitally needed time to heal is just another poor escuse for the fight that didnt happen !

Posted August 27, 2013 2:00 pm 


hit and slip

DANE..Lewis was trying to get a rematch with Tyson for along time,even sued King for 300 million not sure what happened.But when the rematch wasnt happening Lewis signed with Johnson which turned into the V.K. fight.Then after the V.K. fight Lewis took time and then retired.Like I said and DWC mentioned Lewis was talking retirement a year before the Johnson/V.K. fight.Another point is this Lewis was looking at retirement for some time and V.K. gotten 65 stiches to his eye/face in the fight,thats alot of healing time,waiting time.And by this time Lewis was itching to get out of the game.Im not trying to take anything away from V.K. but when people think Lewis is a coward,or that he didnt win this fight its plain crazy.As for the fight itself yes V.K. was up 2 points by the 6th and Lewis who didnt fight in a year waiting for the Tyson rematch and came in heavy,was atleast starting to get rid of some ring rust.Lewis was landing uppercuts and coming to life abit by the 5th rd.And V.K. with a cut that needed over 60 stiches to the face with the fight only half over,it wasnt looking great for him.If that fight wasnt stopped V.K. could have lost sight in that eye for good…he should count hes blessings the doctor had his welfare at stake and acted wisely.

Posted August 27, 2013 12:48 pm 


KOrnerman

good plan until Wlad smashed you in the face with a thunderous left jab straight right cross….plan out window.

Posted August 27, 2013 11:30 am 


Adrian

If I were pulev my plan against klitchko would be :
In the first half of the fight I would not engage much and always go around his left hand so that klitchko wouldn’t be able to use his right straight BUT from distance not to try and go around his left be getting inside because klitchko will use his body on him and clinch and tire him very fast and will rest for himself … I would do that for 9 rounds them i would supprised him by switching gears in round 10 and put maximum pressure on klitchko but not going forward alla Fraiser but still staying on the outside but throwing punches from the outside and make him trade from the outside just like sanders non stop and giving all out I think that way klitchko would fold but again pulev would have really have to be very prepared and execute the plan in a perfect way .

Posted August 27, 2013 10:58 am 


Adrian

Mavrovic could have been tough for anyone because he was a brilliant counterpuncher and came from an old Yugoslavian boxing school that produced the likes of mate parlov and slobodan kacar however he wasn’t that strong to dominate the haveyweight devision …

As for pulev I think he is very talented haveyweight and just past a huge test for me by beating a very underrated Thompson and I think he is better then povetkin but he will really have to have a good plan for klitchko ,he has also to be better prepared then klitchko believe in himself and be hungrier then klitchko to get a win!

Posted August 27, 2013 10:11 am 


Unbiased Dane

hit and slip : you seem to forget Lennox held on to the title a whole year, he tried to get a fight against Tyson and it was only when the WBC threatened to strip him the title if he didnt fought Vitali, that he chose to retire.

Posted August 27, 2013 9:12 am 


Fаn

@. Аdriаn
Whаt do уou tink аbout Wlаd_Pulеv fight..? Мауbе Wlаd will kcnoking 0ut pulеv? Аnd mауbе hе rеtirе likе Маvrovic аftеr Lеwis bеаt him?
thаnks

Posted August 27, 2013 9:11 am 


CARLOS

Well if LL intended to go into a title fight, any title fight out of shape, then I guess that makes him pretty stupid.

Posted August 27, 2013 9:00 am 


Tony.G.G.Galento

Didnt Lewis always say that Croatian guy Zlaijko Mavrovic was his toughest fight, not Vitali?

Posted August 27, 2013 7:54 am 


Adrian

I know Lewis personally and of course and I always defended him early in his carriere way before the loss to mcall and I knew he was a special fighter and was Better then all the rest at that time ( holy,bove,Tyson ,moorer etc) and he was criticize by mostly American media as a “glass chin” and not brave but he proved them wrong in the ring and he would have beaten Tyson the same way he did even in his”prime” and also at the fight night against klitchko I was rooting for Lewis of course but klitchko really supprised and won me that night and trust me Lewis was supprised as well because for the first time in his carriere he realized he was facing someone bigger then him who could box and punch and went through hell more those 6 rounds then in his entire carriere and lady’s a gentlemen I am not saying klitchko is better then Lewis or vise versa but one thing is clear as day klitchko was a better fighter that night in those 6 rounds as the judges cards also indicated!

Posted August 27, 2013 6:07 am 


Adrian

Was Lewis prepared for Tua or mercer fight ?

Posted August 27, 2013 5:53 am 


Tony.G.G.Galento

Everyone with a brain knows that wasnt the best version of Lewis that night, he was heavy, flat footed, slow, had no snap. He hadnt prepared for a tall, mobile, strong, athletic fighter like Vitali K, he had half assed prepared for a short, fat, slow slob like Kirk Johnson. Thats his own fault, but hey he still won by ripping Vitali’s face apart. But compare that Lewis to the one Vs Rahman II, Holyfield, Grant, Golota, Tyson etc etc, not the same guy, pretty damned obviously!
@Grebb, youu know damn well that Steward wasnt gonna say Lewis was underprepared, overweight and unfocused, no trainer does that before a fight and you know it.

Posted August 27, 2013 5:32 am 


dwc

HIT AND SLIP…Also the whole Andy Lee thing.Yes Lee had a very good amature background and Steward saw that and thought Lee was very special.But as a pro Lee was moved carefull,something seemed missing.But Steward still talked Lee up like he was the next greatest middlewt. the world has ever seen pretty much.Now maybe…just MAYBE Lee could still grab a belt with the right fight.But your right Lee will never be the fighter Steward talked him up to be.

Posted August 27, 2013 5:12 am 


hit and slip

GREBB…You always hear trainers talk bad about their fighters before a big fight like..hes past his prime..hes overweight..hes didnt prepare like he should..the fires gone..his mind is miles away..so forth.Dont think so that crap is for AFTER the fight if the fighter loses.Steward also said Andy Lee would clean up the middle wt. div. and be champ for many years to come…well did it happen?Its called selling a fight or selling a fighter.Steward knew damm well this was not a top shelf Lewis coming into this fight…but its idiots like you who would fall for such nonsence at what Steward was saying before the fight,just talking his fighter up at the time.And anyone could just look at Lewis before the fight and see the x-tra soft weight he put on that he didnt look trim and hard.And BEFORE the fight when he was suppose to fight Jhonson,Lewis was talking about retirment and never wanted to stay in the game very long.Didnt want to end up like Ali or Frazier brain rattled to bits.Retirement was on Lewis brain even before he knew he was going to fight V.K. Lewis by the time he fought V.K. was more out of the sport then in it.

Posted August 27, 2013 3:30 am 


rod

Tark: Lewis was getting his butt kick round 1 2 and 3. He did better in round 3 but was still getting his butt kicked. He started to adapt and adjust in round 4 but still lost the round. He did however start to land some massive punches on vitali from round 4 onwards that really shock vitali up and started to put some hurt on vitali. The only man ever to do so. Round 5 vitali’s face was a mess. Round six lewis messed up vitali’s face even more. Vitali lost by TKO……….he could not continue, doing so would have been dangerous. Lewis did what champs do…………kept on trying and kept on fighting. Vitali wanted to keep on fighting……he is a great champ. Both men are amazing, both get respect!!!!

Posted August 27, 2013 1:37 am 


Tark

I still can’t get it through my soft head that Lewis beat Klitschko ten years ago. I obsess over it daily. It has even started to take time away from my favorite pass time which is being a ball-gazer at the urinals at the local movie theater.

Posted August 27, 2013 12:27 am 


Turbo-Hamster

I`ve watched round 3, in particular the first punch in slow motion and the follow-up when VK clinches. The punch slices at the extension of Lewis punch and VK is leaning backwards, but it lands with the scoring part of the glove, not the thumb

If Vitali didn`t like what he was getting in the clinches, he could always have stopped clinching, or clinched in a way to tie Lewis up.

He spent the last 20 seconds of the fight clinching while Lewis was trying to make room to punch.

He was trying to clinch when Lewis put that uppercut through his head.

VK wanted the fight on his terms – long range and no infighting, and Lewis stopped that as he should – you don`t let the other guy dictate to you.

Vitali is a better boxer than Lewis, but he wasn`t a better professional fighter on that night. He couldn`t protect himself adequately, and he failed to alter his gameplan to a more aggressive one once the cut became a factor.

Posted August 26, 2013 11:21 pm 


TARK

People should watch the 3rd round of Lewis-Klitschko in slow motion.. You can see the thumb strike that opened the first minor cut… You can see the illegal headwork, the holding and hitting, and the cuffing with the inside of the glove shortly afterwards.. The blood sprurted out like crazy right after that and the commentators commented on Lewis’s rough tactics.. I give Lewis credit for desperately trying to turn the fight around after getting beaten and outboxed in the rounds 1 and 2.. But not for the illegal tactics and securing a friendly referee — who did’t send the fight to the cards when it was stopped.

Vitali was winning all all scorecards and obviously would have won the official decision … as well as being the unofficical winner. All the fans cheered vitali and booed Lewis.

Posted August 26, 2013 5:03 pm 


TARK

@Hitmachine.., “Was Vitali on his prime, maybe not but when was his prime time?”

Vitali’s BEST fight, according to him, was after his 4-year-layoff at 37… He spent 4 years rehabbing nagging leg injuries and never felt better in his professional boxing life … He trounced a 30-1 Sam Peter for every minute of every round and stopped him for the very first time.

He won the Heavyweight Championship back in his first fight in 4 years, at the age of 37… Not too bad.

VK also said his legs didn’t feel great, but he felt extremely sharp beating Tomasz Adamek, 6’2″ X 216 and 44-1, every minute of every round before stopping him at age 40 … Adamek outboxed bigger and taller Michael Grant but never had a chance vs Vitali’s defense.

So… Those may have been his best 2 fights.

Posted August 26, 2013 4:47 pm 


Unbiased Dane

Stamina issue doesnt normaly show in the first 2 or 3 rounds. And getting punched so many times in the head by Vitali, would make eny fighter look in poor shape. But of course one cannot exclude that Lennox might have been on the slide, although he looked in perfect condition against Tyson and Rahman. Enyway lets not get too excited about this fight between two fine ATG´s

Posted August 26, 2013 4:38 pm 


JoanneBugner

Shuck’N’Jive, all the Vitali nuthuggers do, Shuck’N’Jive. Excuses, excuses…Vitali Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda done yah de yah! He dnever did tho, he got beat by a better fighter on the night, he who wins, wins. Lennox won! Stop making excuses for Vitali, he lost the fight, he hit Lennox with everything he had, it didnt work.

Posted August 26, 2013 4:24 pm 


Rubio

Agh.. The debate wages on. Lewis didn’t look grossly out of shape, but foreman commented on his lack of stamina during the fight as did vitali after the fight. Klitschko even knew he wasn’t against the best version of Lewis, but the notion that a peak Lewis would destroy vitali is nonsense.

Posted August 26, 2013 3:51 pm 


Grebb

Says a lot that a not quite in his prime Vitali, on a measly 2 weeks notice, still outboxed and RETIRED LL’s ass

Posted August 26, 2013 3:24 pm 


raygordonreid

LEWIS WASNT READY READY FOR HASIM

Posted August 26, 2013 3:24 pm 


Grebb

Anytime a Lewis nuthugger uses that “Lewis was way passed it” bs I’m just gonna quote HIS trainer. And for the record, a PRIME Vitali for me was the version we saw against Arreola. He had more valuable world title experience then AND was not given a measly 2 weeks either to prepare.

Posted August 26, 2013 3:23 pm 


Grebb

Hitmachine “Lewis was faded, overweighed and lazy. Not even near of his prime” And once again I quote you Emanuel Steward, his trainer, on the eve of the fight; ““I was not surprised at Lennox’ weight and am not worried at all…He is a big man, a solid man who is about normal weight-wise for a guy his size and age. Believe me, Lennox is in great shape. He has sparred over 100 rounds. If he had come in at 250 pounds I would have been upset. What he weighs will not be a factor (tonight).”

Posted August 26, 2013 3:22 pm 


Hitmachine

Lewis was faded, overweighed and lazy. Not even near of his prime. Was Vitali on his prime, maybe not but when was his prime time? Who is the best opponent that he has ever won? Maybe Peter, but Peter has never been any kind of world beater. Wladimir and Helenius knocked Peter to cold and you can’t compare Peter to Holyfield, Tyson, Haye or Povetkin which were/are opponents for Lewis and Wladimir. Wladimir is real champion and Vitali has been hidden behind his kid brother´s back. Vitali has avoided years any serious boxer like Hay or Stiverne and should retired at once. He is not real champion anymore.

Posted August 26, 2013 3:00 pm 


Grebb

fyi i’m actually a nice guy once you get to know me

Posted August 26, 2013 2:48 pm 


Grebb

And AssyrianGoon maintains too that Lewis “WAS PROBABLY on the slide”. Really, and based on what showing? His domination 8 round beat down of Iron Mike just previously? His 4 round destruction of Rahman just before that? Or perhaps his tender age of 36?? A whole 1 year YOUNGER than Wlad is now and who most sane people regard at his PEAK. So enlighten us AssyrianGoon. If you can’t (which you won’t) I suggest logging off here for a few months, actually EDUCATE yourself about boxing and then MAYBE will you be able to debate us; i.e. the ones who actually DO know boxing.

Posted August 26, 2013 12:59 pm 


Grebb

hahahah so AssyrianGirl’s best remark is “Of course Steward would not have said ”Oh my gawd, my guy is out of shape” hhahaha Once again, Emanuel Steward the day BEFORE the fight “I was not surprised at Lennox’ weight and am not worried at all…He is a big man, a solid man who is about normal weight-wise for a guy his size and age. Believe me, Lennox is in great shape. He has sparred over 100 rounds. If he had come in at 250 pounds I would have been upset. What he weighs will not be a factor (tonight).” So there you have it! And that quote isn’t just for AssyrianGirl, it’s for ALL Lennx Lewis worshippers who squeak out this propaganda each time that their messiah somehow “in rag order condition” still managed to “conclusively prove” he was a better boxer than Vitali. GTFO of here!!

Posted August 26, 2013 12:55 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

I’m sure there is a tremendous message there somewhere…

Posted August 26, 2013 12:24 pm 


Adrian

And btw the cut Lewis made on vitally was 100% legit but you won’t full anyone and tell them Lewis was better then klitchko that night ,cuts happen and the stoppage was made by a doctor and Lewis won of course but he was NOT a better fighter that night and that’s why klitchko haters always mention their famous quote” Lewis was fat old and out of shape “

Posted August 26, 2013 12:09 pm 


Adrian

Assyrian god- now you that you defended Lewis side can you answer this ? Is it possible that since Lewis thought he will have to fight unbeaten Johnson at the time trained differently and simply focused more on gaining more power so he can have an advantage over a short chubby slow johnsson and he could afford to lose a litle speed and gain power? That is not “underprepared”that is a training strategy my friend because if you know a little how professional boxers train especially haveyweight you would know that they never train the same way , it all depends on what kind of the opponent they will face …. Now just because klitchko was not “fat ” it dosent mean he was prepared for the fight against Lewis ,he was not aware he would face him until a few weeks before the fight and that to looks like a huge advantage for Lewis because even though Lewis was preparing for johnsson
He at least new he would fight on that night so was trained accordannly for that date and actualy Lewis thought vitally is weaker then wlad because of the fight with Byrd and was saying he will beat both brothers in one night , and ohhhh boy what a beating he gave them …lol…

Posted August 26, 2013 12:03 pm 


AnonyMouse

”’Grubb – Yeah, Lewis was in the bst shape of his life for VitK…NOT lmfao Jeeeez!

Posted August 26, 2013 11:14 am 


AnonyMouse

People sayin Lewis cheated or got lucky are pathetic. You can feel the hate and the frustration in ‘em, their pin up boy got beat and it still eats ‘em 10 years down the line, just accept it and move on losers. The kind of crap posters are coming out with about how VitK really actually won the fight are total comedy lmfao!

Posted August 26, 2013 11:12 am 


CARLOS

Naw, LL just cheated his way out of a dangerous situation.

Posted August 26, 2013 11:01 am 


AssyrianGod

Steward WAS right about one thing though, the fight did end quickly, Lewis tore his face off, and yes, a FAT Lewis.

Posted August 26, 2013 10:56 am 


AssyrianGod

@Grebb ”Muppet” eh? You are showing your intellectual level there, not your fault I suppose, you are a product of others, so it’s nature and nurture..both in your case lol! Of course Steward would not have said ”Oh my gawd, my guy is out of shape, overweight, he could lose this, he failed to train properly, I failed to train him”’…lol, get outta here yerself muppet!

Posted August 26, 2013 10:55 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Anonymous.. Can you not remember what the question was Brother?

And I swear on the Holy Book I wasn’t joking about reading my own posts over and over again either. lol

Gonzo a G

Posted August 26, 2013 10:54 am 


Grebb

So to sum up, Steward says regarding the weight of Lewis “Believe me, Lennox is in great shape. He has sparred over 100 rounds” Just google “nytimes real fat chance of defeating Lewis” and the article should appear

Posted August 26, 2013 10:33 am 


Grebb

Steward goes on “” Before Lewis’ weight became an issue, Klitschko’s height (6-7) was the adavantage mentioned most with regards to the 31-year-old Ukranian. Steward isn’t concerned about the height advantage, either. “When Lewis fights physically big guys, who he is threatened by, he is a very aggressive predator,” Steward said. “When Lewis comes out and is throwing big punches early, somebody goes down. Lewis is a very accurate puncher, especially for a big man. I don’t think Klitschko is a fast enough boxer to dance around the ring. So, he’s going to have to get involved. I think the fight is going to be over early.”

Posted August 26, 2013 10:30 am 


Grebb

To this AssyrianGod MUPPET who says “Lewis weighed 257 Lbs for his fight with Vitali Klitchko, his highest ever, so yes, he was CLEARLY out of shape” For whatever reason this thread doesn’t allow you to post links, but in anycase on the eve of the fight NYdailynews QUOTE Emanuel Steward saying “” Emanuel Steward, Lewis’ trainer, said the 37-year-old Lewis had not been taking his training lightly thinking that he had a soft touch in Johnson. “I was not surprised at Lennox’ weight and am not worried at all,” Steward said. “He is a big man, a solid man who is about normal weight-wise for a guy his size and age. Believe me, Lennox is in great shape. He has sparred over 100 rounds. If he had come in at 250 pounds I would have been upset. What he weighs will not be a factor (tonight).” So What do you have to say about that? I suppose you know better than the trainer of Lewis himself? GTFO of here!

Posted August 26, 2013 10:29 am 


Anonymous

but I do think people should accept Lewis won, and won fairly

WOW Assyriangod, I really thought you were smarter!!! Won fairly???

Posted August 26, 2013 10:07 am 


AssyrianGod

Lewis WAS Fat, he WAS Undertrained, he WAS underprepared, he WAS NOT shot, he WAS PROBABLY on the slide. Different fighters go on the slide at different ages, we all know that, so it’s pointless people pointing out how old Vitali is now, or conversely, how old (or young) Bowe was when he slid.
I cannot put it much more clearly than in my post below. Yes, I would like to have seen a rematch, but I do think people should accept Lewis won, and won fairly.

Posted August 26, 2013 8:43 am 


AssyrianGod

Some Clarity Regarding Lewis Vs Vitali – Lewis weighed 257 Lbs for his fight with Vitali Klitchko, his highest ever, so yes, he was CLEARLY out of shape. He had been preparing to fight a totally different opponent, the useless Kirk Johnson, and I guess he (probably rightly) felt he did not need to be in great shape for that. Having said that, it IS HIS fault he was out of shape.
Klitchko was leading 58-56 on all three judges cards, so he was winning 4 rounds to 2. That is VERY FAR from utter domination, and as Lewis said ”I wasnt in there trying to win on points”’. At the point the fight was stopped BOTH men were very tired, but Lewis had begun to Tee Off on Vitali more and more over the last three rounds, and he HAD already taken Vitali’s hardest punches. Cuts aside, the tide was already turning.
The fight WAS stopped legitimately – Vitali needed over 60 stitches afterwards, in injuries caused by Lewis’ blows. It simply CANNOT be argued that because a particular fighter was leading at the point he was stopped, then he really actually WON! That is a nonsense, and can be applied to ANY loser in a fight who; A) ran out of gas whilst leading (ie Sugar Ray Robinson Vs Joey Maxim) b) got KO’d whilst utterly thrashing his opponent (ie Herol Graham Vs Julian Jackson), got caught in the last round of a fight they were winning (ie Taylor Vs Froch) or indeed got cut to pieces by the blows of his opponent while marginally ahead (Klitchko Vs Lewis)………….If you are forced out of the fight due to the actions of your opponent, you lose, end of story, Vitali lost. Noticably, he looked utterly beaten in his corner, and it was only after a section of the crowd started booing, that he suddenly became filled with UNrighteous indignation.

Posted August 26, 2013 8:36 am 


Unbiased Dane

Turbo-Hamster : dont be so generalizing. It doesnt matter to me if the punch that cut Vitali was legal or not. During eny fight you see fighters doing things that arent ‘legal’, for example in the Pulev fight both fighters threw rabbit punches and threw punches after the referee said break. What i was reacting to earlier was simply the nonsense that Lennox was fat old and shot when he fought Vitali.

Posted August 26, 2013 7:22 am 


Tj

TARK you’re delusional bro…

Posted August 26, 2013 5:42 am 


Adrian

Unbiased Dane – you know why they say fat old out of shape Lewis ? Because he got beat and they need that escuse and they will try to educate us how wininng because off a cut makes you a better boxer even though you lost 4 rounds to two and they hide the fact that vitally was offered a fight two weeks before the fight because johnsson got injured so vitally wasn’t prepared they way he would if he new he would get a shot in advance …Lewis retired at 36 wlad is 36 right now but they say he is at his peak

Posted August 26, 2013 4:46 am 


Unbiased Dane

Tony Galenton said: ‘And again, this was a fat, old, out of shape LL’
Im so tired of hearing the same propaganda. There is no evidence at all that Lennox was old and over the hill, if it was the case it would have shown in some of his fights, just before his fight with Vitali. And if you are out of shape it wouldnt show from round one . And Lennox wasnt fat at all. :-)

Posted August 26, 2013 4:27 am 


Anonymous

GONZO, I cannot find the post, it’s deleted.

most of the time I just read my own posts over and over again (I’m being deadly serious about that too).

You’re nuts!!! I love that!! LOL

Posted August 26, 2013 4:17 am 


Anonymous

Tony no he did NOT, not legally and fairly. Every person with a half brain knows that.

Posted August 26, 2013 4:07 am 


TonyGalento

Jeez – Some people! LL WON, people need to accept that, the Doctor didnt win it for him, the Ref didnt win it for him, he did, and did it legally and fairly. After a slow start, he begant to tear Vitali up over the last 2 or 3 rounds. And again, this was a fat, old, out of shape LL fighting a ripped 29 year old Vitali. A peak or even an in shape Lewis wouldve destroyed Vitali easy. Fights get stopped on cuts all the time, hy maybe Colin Jones wouldve gotten to Don Curry had his nose not got split! Or Minter or Antoufermo beaten Hagler without cuts!

Posted August 26, 2013 3:56 am 


Fan

Read the real article on the fight “Kubrat Pulev beats Tony Thompson” one post before this gibberish. this here is bias and provocation.

Posted August 26, 2013 2:38 am 


Anonymous

fake TARK enough is enough..

1-2 posts are funny but know please stop.

Posted August 26, 2013 2:32 am 


Adrian

If we judge fights by who cuts more then they should have stop the fight and gave the win to Lewis right away but we don’t score fights on injury’s ,we score fights and its a fact that vitally won 4 rounds to two on the 3 judges scorecards …Lewis won the fight because the DOCTOR stopped the fight not because vitally got tko’d or he lost the scorecards and those are facts anything else is bellony

Posted August 26, 2013 2:30 am 


WEBMASTER

Yes. Meet Herrons challenge or call Puglilists KOrner and he is outta here.

Posted August 26, 2013 2:11 am 


TARK

WEBMASTER..if I agree to Herrons challenge will you ban this other TARK?

Posted August 26, 2013 2:10 am 


TARK

Obviously Ernie the troll is invading my posts again…

WEBMASTER… Can you get rid of this jerk?

Posted August 26, 2013 1:37 am 


TARK

Lewis was in great shape… For his last 4 or 5 fights he averaged over 250 pounds… He was getting bigger and stronger all the time.

Posted August 26, 2013 1:36 am 


TARK

I`ve had a lot of experience with Jamaican head. I`ve given head to 4 Jamaican guys at the same time before.

Posted August 26, 2013 1:35 am 


TARK

LL employed illegal head usage in the 3rd—which helped worsen the cuts.. But NO illegal use of head or elbows is NEEDED for illegal blows to occur…

A boxer is NOT allowed to use the thumb, edge or heel of the glove to produce cuts or other injuries that might stop a fight in his favor.. A boxer is NOT allowed to injure his opponent with low blows… blows delivered while holding his opponent’s head still… blows delivered to the kidney… back of the head… after the bell… etc.

LL used holding and hitting… striking with the thumb… and striking with the edge, palm, and heel of the glove… to cause deep jagged cuts and gashes, which occurred mostly in the 3rd round after Vitali won the first 2 rounds and hurt Lewis badly in the 2nd round… Lewis was desperate and used illegal tactics, which he was very familiar with… He seemed to know Lou Moret, who the HBO telecasters criticized harshly during the fight, would call no fouls on him.

Most referees would have ruled the severe cuts were substantially caused by illegal blows—and that the fight should be decided by the scorecards—since more than 4 rounds had passed.

Posted August 26, 2013 1:21 am 


TonyGalento

Tark man, LL won that fight fair n square, the cuts were caused by blows, not by headbutts or illegal use of elbows. And that was a fat, out of shape LL, and Vitali was gassing as bad as LL at the end.

Posted August 26, 2013 12:03 am 


TARK

Klitschko was winning on all scorecards and the fight should have gone to the cards… Accept it.

Posted August 25, 2013 10:20 pm 


Tj

klitshko is the loser…Lewis the winner….accept it.

Posted August 25, 2013 9:22 pm 


TARK

Right Fish Eyes … and Vitali Klitschko won his fight with Lennox Lewis…

Klitschko was winning on all scorecards when the fight was stopped at the halfway point. Six rounds had passed—enough to render a decision victory to any fighter—where cuts caused by other than legal blows stop a fight.

The video record proves conclusively that the 3 deep jagged cuts on Klitschko’s eye and cheek were caused by 1—a thumb jab… 2—holding and hitting with the heel and edge of the glove… 3—caused by palming Klitschko directly in the face.

LL never inflicted cuts like that on any other boxer… Vitali wasn’t a bleeder. He never suffered cuts that threatened to stop a fight in any other of his 47 professional boxing matches—or 36 professional kickboxing matches

The California Boxing Commission rules call for a fight halted by cuts caused by illegal contact—either by accident or willful misconduct—to go to the scorecards.

California Boxing Commission rules call for a bout to be decided by the scorecards after the fourth round has begun. That differs with the Association of Boxing Commissions, which stipulates that four full rounds must be completed before the judges can determine a winner—so in any jurisdiction where the rules were followed—Klitschko wins the fight.

Posted August 25, 2013 9:08 pm 


butch the pitbull

pulov has boxing ability jab and chin. he will ko wilder. for sure

Posted August 25, 2013 9:00 pm 


butch the pitbull

grrrrrr i got something caught in my throat

Posted August 25, 2013 8:57 pm 


butch the pitbull

pulov would beat wilder haye and fury

Posted August 25, 2013 8:55 pm 


butch the pitbull

just testing my vocal cords

Posted August 25, 2013 8:53 pm 


butch the pitbull

grrrrrrr

Posted August 25, 2013 8:50 pm 


Fish Eyes

I agree with Lazy.. Lewis/ Vitali was the last great HW fight. Fought by two great HW fighters,

Posted August 25, 2013 4:58 pm 


Anonymous

Lazy ah ok, you’re right!!

Posted August 25, 2013 4:31 pm 


Lazy

Anonymous: for me Lewis/ Vitali was the last great hw fight because of its true epic nature. Two huge, talented heavyweights showing sheer guts and determination, matched by serious drama. I can’t think of a hw bout since that has come close to being a great he fight. What do you think was the last great he bout?

Posted August 25, 2013 4:28 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Thanks. Don’t ever do that to me again though. I won’t bother looking next time someone does but I can assure you ESB ranking points will be deducted from the their tally.

It best not be a trick question either. I’m very tired now but I’ll check in on the morrow.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:57 pm 


Anonymous

lol …If I find it again, I post it for you.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:53 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

And I’m feeling tired and poorly.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:51 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Well I’ve just scrolled through the whole bloody thing and I can’t find anything. I’m not going through it again as it’s an eye killer doing that.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:50 pm 


Anonymous

Gonzo your name is mentioned in the middle of the post, so it’s difficult to find….

Posted August 25, 2013 3:48 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Anonymous… What was the question? And more to the point why is someone asking me a question on a thread I haven’t even posted in or read? I had a brief scroll through it but there’s like 199 comments and I couldn’t see anything. I don’t read that many threads and even the ones I do check out I don’t bother reading most people’s posts. I’ll read Tier Two posters, although even then I’ll only read certain amount of them. Quite often I’ll only read the posts that mention me, so I can reply to them, but most of the time I just read my own posts over and over again (I’m being deadly serious about that too).

Posted August 25, 2013 3:41 pm 


TARK

knowledgeable

Posted August 25, 2013 3:28 pm 


TARK

Herron,

“Very true, TARK.

Even when you’re trying to aniticpate a specific fight strategy, it can be tricky sometimes.

Depending on how athletic or versatile a fighter is, it can be difficult against certain opposition.”
………………………………………………………………………………

It’s not that difficult to determine what the odds should be, or where a good bet is, if you’re extremely knowledge about Boxing. What’s difficult are the human emotions.

If you want one of the fighters to win, or if you’re even subconsciously pulling for him, that will throw you off … If you dislike one of the fighters, such as Hecdog hates Floyd, so he bet on Guerrero, that will throw you off.

You really have to be extremely objective — and that’s very difficult.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:26 pm 


Anonymous

it was Lewis vs Vitali.

Please explain????

Posted August 25, 2013 3:10 pm 


Lazy

Sorry I meant Joey.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:08 pm 


Lazy

Hirt, it was Lewis vs Vitali. What do you think?

Posted August 25, 2013 3:07 pm 


Anonymous

Gonzo…

there was a question for you, I guess on page 5, the top hw of the last 21 years ago vs today’s top 10.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:56 pm 


JOEY

WHEN WAS THE LAST GREAT HEAVYWEIGHT FIGHT.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:05 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Lol Brother Hidalgo

Posted August 25, 2013 1:45 pm 


knowall

Huckster that was quite funny to be fair. agent huckster, fair play

Posted August 25, 2013 1:10 pm 


dmx aka Anonymouse

Кубрат Пулев!!!

Posted August 25, 2013 12:35 pm 


raygordonreid

PULEV GET READY WALD

Posted August 25, 2013 12:19 pm 


huckster

Pulev ducked povetkin???? povetkin decided to fight old rahmen instead, hello??? pulev fought ustinov and was/is ibf mandatory. ustinov would have been more for povetkin than rahmen. rahmen was done. somehow, the mandatory got extended out a year later for some crazy fight off which several turned down adamek, haye, fury, ???. the shortest road to a belt would have been for haye to fight pulev. haye wanted to make money on fury. that’s a fun fight, too. haye stated he wanted to be lined up for a belt. haye should have fought pulev which would have lined him up for an ibf mandatory late 2013-sometime 2014. given the balls, tony stepped up and fought the fight. tony is cashing in. he is doing it good. he looked like he wanted to quit a couple rounds earlier. now, it’s history. pulev should be fighting the winner wlad-povetkin fight. wlad to win povetkin fight. wlad is probably not looking beyond povetkin. this may be wlad’s hardest fight since tony thompson 1. the chicken peck between haye and wlad left much to be desired. blame it on both of them. agent huckster i have been out of the business for years. dah di di dah, dah di di dah, dah di di dah

Posted August 25, 2013 12:16 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

I’d like to see the winner of Fury vs. Haye fight Pulev. But even if Haye were to win both fights, he still doesn’t deserve another shot at a Klitschko.

He’s proven that he doesn’t belong in the same ring with Wlad, but of course he wants Vitali now that he’s 42-years-old and semi-retired.

(And this is after VK offered Haye a fight on a few different occasions 2-3 years back. Haye didn’t want any part of VK back then.) Real talk.

Posted August 25, 2013 12:03 pm 


James Blond

TJ likes / loves himself the poor thing, not getting laid shows.. Beyond that sad fact the Namibian could not do much other than hit on AA’s guard. To those that think the crude and ineffectual, with the stupid first name, won keep on smoking and don’t be surprised if you do not understand whatz going on.

Posted August 25, 2013 11:57 am 


Tj

I like the virgins too…lol

Posted August 25, 2013 11:41 am 


Grebb

“Wlad likes the undefeated ones, the virgins, he loves to KO them” I LOL’d. Round of applause to Mr. Burgler :D

Posted August 25, 2013 11:38 am 


Hidalgo

I’m glad Abraham beat a guy with the first name of “Willbeforce.” Now he can change it to, “Donebebeat.”

Posted August 25, 2013 11:28 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

a

Posted August 25, 2013 11:21 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I watched feature on Pulev a while back and he came across as very nice guy.

Posted August 25, 2013 11:21 am 


Me

Shihepo outworking Abraham ? It’s not considered “outworking” if you throw a lot of shots to the guard of your opponent to keep him busy, without landing much. In some rounds, Shihepo didn’t connect a single shot to Abrahams face or body. It wasn’t a great performance by Abraham, but it was still Abraham only who was landing after the first 3 rounds, save a single counter somewhere in the 4th round. Abraham was lackluster and did only as much as he “needed”, to win a dull 7-5/8-4ish decision, based on Shihepo not landing.

Posted August 25, 2013 11:15 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

lol Pulev clearly won. You must be tokin’ on the same strain as Proud African’s been puffing away on. lol

Posted August 25, 2013 11:04 am 


Tj

Pulev hits like a little girl!!!

Posted August 25, 2013 11:03 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Oh, yeah.. of course there is. ”You’re posting comments too quickly”

Posted August 25, 2013 11:03 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Is there anything more annoying than the cApS lOcK button? Seriously? The amount of times I forget it’s on and then look up at the screen after typing out a sentence or paragraph is astonishing.

Posted August 25, 2013 11:02 am 


Tj

Crap!! Pulev didn’t deserve the victory!!

Posted August 25, 2013 11:01 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

ROFL @ Brother Turbo-Hamster’s lyrical magic.

Posted August 25, 2013 10:59 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

LOL Simon Says. Proud African is still at least a decade away from Sega Master Systems. He still gets awestruck by his uncle Daktari’s Binatone. lol

Posted August 25, 2013 10:58 am 


whatupdoe

Wilder got next.

Posted August 25, 2013 10:54 am 


dmx aka Anonymouse

TARK

I’m very disappointed!! IN THE WEEK before the Pulev-Thompson fight,

you’ve posted not ONCE that Pulev might win!!Herron did his dead wrong prediction

and YOU TARK didn’t have the ba!!s to disagree or to say at least your opinion!!! I’ve

always respected you for your fine boxing head…

Now you’ve lost your credibility….plus your ba!!s!!!

Posted August 25, 2013 10:50 am 


dmx

TARK

I’m very disappointed!! IN THE WEEK before the Pulev-Thompson fight,

you’ve posted not ONCE that Pulev might win!!Herron did his dead wrong prediction

and YOU TARK didn’t have the ba!!s to disagree or to say at least your opinion!!! I’ve

always respected you for your fine boxing head…

Now you’ve lost your credibility….plus your ba!!s!!!

Posted August 25, 2013 10:50 am 


Richard Bulger

Yes it is a good win for Pulev but not an impressive win, but a good win, he is still Undefeated. Wlad likes the undefeated ones, the virgins, he loves to KO them. Wlad KO’s Pulev and Wlad KO’s Wilder.

Posted August 25, 2013 10:49 am 


rod

haye vs fury would make alot more money than haye vs pulev, that’s why haye took on fury. I have total respect for Pulev but haye is too fast and too powerful for him. Good pulev fought Tony now he can take on wlad after wlad is done with povetkin.

Posted August 25, 2013 10:48 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

KL

Picking Holyfield to beat Tyson is the best of your bunch, and Spinks to beat Tyson the worst, IMO.

Price over Thompson is understandable because Thompson looked really slow and cumbersome in the Wlad rematch, which is obviously why Price and his handlers took the fight.

Posted August 25, 2013 10:48 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

test

Posted August 25, 2013 10:47 am 


dmx

Bulgaria is proud of Pulev…

Posted August 25, 2013 9:57 am 


Robo

Haye had his chance to fight Pulev when he came back from retirement. Pulev was calling him and was ready to fight him – he is not afraid of anyone. But Haye ducked – he went for the easy fight with Chisora who had so many loses already.

Posted August 25, 2013 9:45 am 


AssyrianGod

Haye has too fast hands, too fast feet ant too much mobility for Pulev, and he hits very hard, and Pulev is easy to hit. Pulev is a good, solid all round pro, but he lacks hand and foot speed, mobility and lacks a big punch. For me, it would play out like Haye Vs Ruiz. Wlad, Vitali and probably also Fury, would beat Pulev, and for the same reasons, a lack of speed and power. Pulev is workmanlike but very unspectacular.

Posted August 25, 2013 9:33 am 


Grebb

lol @ K2fan. good one!

Posted August 25, 2013 9:20 am 


knowall

huckster is clearly an agent. Pulev ducked povetkin. Did he fight him argument done

Posted August 25, 2013 8:57 am 


K2 Fan

” if Haye was 6′ 7″ he would have given Wlad a beating ” …… Brilliant !
And if you had brains ; you’d be smart .

Posted August 25, 2013 8:54 am 


boxing barlow

As much as it pains me to say it, and I must state I am definately not a David Haye fan, outside the K Brothers IMO he’s is easily the best heavy weight out there. The guys fundemental skills are awesome, its just no amount of skill can act as a equalizer for the brothers size. Make no bones about it if Haye was 6’7 he would have given Vlad a beating!I’m not saying this as a fan just the voice of reason. As a man I think Haye lacks a lot of heart and this showed in the Vlad fight when at the point in the fight when he was clearely too far behind to win via points he refused to look for a KO rather taking the safe options and accepting a sfaer points loss rather than risking it all and getting KO’d.

Posted August 25, 2013 8:26 am 


Reem

lol wut?

Posted August 25, 2013 7:14 am 


huckster

you are right reem and the difference is bönte. he is shrewd and slick as hell. bönte would sell you flies on crap as houses on next big city boom. there would not be enough flies to keep up with the demand. besides steward, bönte is the best thing that happen to the k-bros in terms of navigating their careers.

Posted August 25, 2013 7:10 am 


Turbo-Hamster

Haye was what at least two or three times vs Chisora?

You have no material, you are fudging, you have a big fat slut-mouth full of wire-pubees.

Posted August 25, 2013 7:00 am 


Reem

huckster the situation was completely different as Lewis wasn’t injured

Posted August 25, 2013 6:54 am 


Reem

Yeah Pulev would probably KO Haye with his superb jab

Posted August 25, 2013 6:51 am 


huckster

sometimes, mandatory ibf + win = fight the ibf champion. haye did not fight cobra. haye did not win. haye does not fight the ibf champion. logic works sometimes. whatever happens now rests upon povetkin and wlad. whatever story wlad wants to sell next year, his fans will buy it while his brother sits on the rogue belt. how many people moaned when lewis sat on a belt? they must of loved lewis.

Posted August 25, 2013 6:50 am 


huckster

haye turned down the pulev fight. did he fight pulev? nope. Haye would have got the mandatory ibf if he did and won. argument done.

Posted August 25, 2013 6:44 am 


JOEY

TWO COMPLETE BUMS.

Posted August 25, 2013 5:54 am 


Grebb

Knowall “Grebb Never heard so much crap” Well since you are a self confessed knowall then please enlighten us as to WHY Haye would NOT get schooled by Pulev? How would YOU see a Pulev Haye fight turn out and WHY (based on what evidence) KNOWALL?

Posted August 25, 2013 5:26 am 


Grebb

“Did Vitali, Helenius or Scott walk Chisora onto an accurate 4 punch combination that left him senseless?” First of all why are you even mentioning Scott? Do you actually rate him? I presume you do since you mentioned him. Based on what? As for the other two. The answer is no. But were those two ever rocked to their boots? NO. Haye was at least twice or three times against the MODEST punching and slow Chisora

Posted August 25, 2013 5:24 am 


Grebb

“If Haye has such an open defence, how come that little cruiserweight ain`t been KO’ed up at heavy yet?” Who has he fought that had a chance to KO him? Wlad yes. But because the risk was there Haye barely took a risk and fought to SURVIVE. Anyone else? Harrison? Valuev whom he barely squeaked by? Barrett? Chisora is aggressive but no KO puncher. Does that answer your question? 40 year old Ruiz?

Posted August 25, 2013 5:22 am 


Anonymous

Pulev will beat Vlad wait and see. Those 2 British judges in the Abraham fight were Bought, they are corrupt, they should be banned from the game.

Posted August 25, 2013 5:19 am 


James Blond

Why would anyone call themselves “Lenin”? Satan, Stalin and Lenin all the same. Btw, The “Tiger” showed his age and his underpants. I suppose “Lenin” got the hots from the viewing.

Posted August 25, 2013 4:52 am 


Turbo-Hamster

Grebb, just so you know, the zoo called and they need you to explain something to your momma. Now looki, when the zoo have a day where you are allowed to feed the sealions, that means you are supposed to throw fish to them.

Your momma seems to have misunderstood and dived into the enclosure topless and clasped a sealion to her bosom shouting “Feed water doggy FEED”.

That $h1t ain`t right.

She need to reign that in bigtime.

You cannot be feeding large aquatic mammals human breastmilk, and that is aside from the fact that a busload of Japanese tourists witnesses this display of semi-beastiality and are now w@nking themselves silly over the 450 hi-res photos they took.

In short, just tell your momma, no to the boobies for the animals of da sea.

REAL TALK (whatever that means)

Posted August 25, 2013 4:51 am 


Turbo-Hamster

If Haye has such an open defence, how come that little cruiserweight ain`t been KO’ed up at heavy yet?

Because you are just looking at a man with his hands down, whose often recovering from going for the home run.

Hayes defense is in large part simply the threat of his speed and ability to counter.

Did Vitali, Helenius or Scott walk Chisora onto an accurate 4 punch combination that left him senseless?

No Haye did.

Now Haye-Pulev is an interesting battle I could see Pulev edging if he can take Hayes big shots but if I were putting some sneky money down I`d like thelook of Haye finishing that one early – not through any nicely laid plan but through getting pressure and landing something biblical off the back foot while being pressured.

Posted August 25, 2013 4:45 am 


knowall

Grebb Never heard so much crap

Posted August 25, 2013 4:44 am 


knowall

By the way of course

Posted August 25, 2013 4:42 am 


Grebb

Pulev would SCHOOL Haye. Put that in your tea all you brits out there

Posted August 25, 2013 4:36 am 


Grebb

I am very surprised at all the so called boxing experts on this thread who are now having a swipe at Pulev simply because he couldn’t put Thompson away. HELLO. Only murderous punching Wlad has ever stopped Thompson. EVER! Thompson is also a tall and very awkard southpaw tto hit cleanly. Hell he even made Wlad himself look clumsy a few times, particularly the first fight. Anyway the moral of the story is that it’s NO SHAME to NOT stop Thompson. In fact only Wlad has ever beaten him truly until last night. The fact that Pulev DOMINATED him should be commended. All you whingers “oh I’m not impressed, he couldn’t put Thompson way yadayada” DKSAB. I would easily pick Pulevs chin, toughness, and punch accuracy over Haye’s power and open defense. You you jackasses honestly think that if the princess Faye fought against Pulev like he did against Wlad, that he wouldn’t also be taken to the cleaners on the score cards? GTFO of here

Posted August 25, 2013 4:34 am 


knowall

By the povetkin is fighting wlad so there will be no need for Pulev povetkin unless povetkin beats wlad

Posted August 25, 2013 4:32 am 


knowall

Huckster Haye would destroy Pulev. You people who come out and say guys turn down fights make mě laugh. Im sure your discussed as part of the fight negotiation

Posted August 25, 2013 4:28 am 


huckster

how can anyone put pulev and haye in the same sentence? haye turned the fight down. fury turned the fight down. wilder will probably turn the fight down. pulev will definitely be wlad’s manditory if he beats povetkin. time for thompson to thin the crew out in the usa. thompson should begin with wilder. another deserving money fight for thompson!

Posted August 25, 2013 4:23 am 


huckster

(wlad-povetkin winner) – pulev 2014!

Posted August 25, 2013 4:19 am 


Farmboxer

The writer of this article shows his bias! I think he was watching another fight. He said Thompson would stop Pulev. And his favorite fighter is Wilder?! Who has Wilder fought?! He refused to fight Thompson, Jennings, Arreola, Wach, etc. Wilder gets’ ranked by magic, not by earning it.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:16 am 


Bo Bo Olson

16 beautiful hits to the gloves Wilber wins this round too
Out working means hitting the man, not the gloves It was a much better fight than expected. I had Abraham up by 4.

Posted August 25, 2013 3:09 am 


dmx

We bulgarians are proud of Cobra…

Posted August 25, 2013 3:08 am 


dmx

* reason * damn Iphone

Posted August 25, 2013 2:59 am 


dmx

LOL!!

Posted August 25, 2013 2:56 am 


BLUESMAN

Pulev is the next great heavyweight of our era.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:40 am 


dmx

LOL!! For some reasons my wife is crazy about Pulev…I should hate this guy…but I was impressed…

Posted August 25, 2013 2:39 am 


dmx

Well they avoided him…It must be frustrating to train then your opponent cancel the fight…and this over and over again.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:33 am 


TARK

Idiot Ernie is posting as me again… In the one below my last post.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:28 am 


TARK

dmx…, I like Pulev a lot… He has one Hell of a jab… He’s big… He’s tough.

I thought he would look better though.. No left hook to the body or inside game.. No short hooks or uppercuts to the chin. Mostly a loose stance and big swings and power jabs.. Of course he doesn’t have a lot of pro fights and he’s already 32.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:27 am 


TARK

dmx, I like the Dark meat if you know what I am saying.

Bareback style.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:22 am 


dmx

Indeed Lenin…

Pulev proved to have a great stamina!! He didnt really need to sit down between the rounds….

Posted August 25, 2013 2:16 am 


dmx

TARK you don’t like Pulev, eh??

Posted August 25, 2013 2:13 am 


Anonymous

This “writer” predicted Pulev would lose, guaranteed in his preview Pulev would be stopped. Predicted it wrong and now you hate Pulev for proving you DKSAB.

Posted August 25, 2013 2:02 am 


TARK

Thompson removed his trunks in the ring after the fight… Then put them back on again a couple minutes later. I’m not sure what that was all about. Maybe it’s like a crude 6’6″ X 270lb guy walking into the Ladies rest room and taking a pee in the sink. Because he’s pissed about something … and who’s going to stop him?

Posted August 25, 2013 1:28 am 


PitBull Petrill

KL: I agree with alot of what you said however Wlad said he declined but Wlad also said that Thompson is very hard to hit cleanly. But I never said Pulev hits hard.

Posted August 25, 2013 1:20 am 


PitBull Petrill

It’s me Ernie: you are hilarious yet wrong on many levels. LOL

Posted August 25, 2013 1:17 am 


Dionysus

My top 5=

1 W.Klitschko
2 David Haye
3 Bermane Stiverne
4 Cris Arreola
5 Alexander Povetkin

(*Note no Vitali Klitschko because I doubt that he actually fights again)

Posted August 25, 2013 12:42 am 


Thick

Proud african what are you proud of? What african boxer?

Posted August 25, 2013 12:35 am 


Pratt

Well, Pulev remains unbeaten at 18-0. A good win but not an impressive win. He just lacks the power, since he did land some good shots but unable to do damage like Wlad could. When Wlad had Tony in the corner he attacked with power and hurt Tony, but Kubrat just does not have the power. But he had enough to win a UD. So he goes on to face
Wlad for a title shot.

Posted August 25, 2013 12:10 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Tard removed them in the dressing room for him…

Posted August 24, 2013 11:44 pm 


KL

PitBull Petrill, I’m not saying that Thompson is a bad opponent, but I am saying that Pulev’s “hurting” of Thompson needs to be placed into some context.
After Wlad easily took out Thompson he remarked that that he was surprised how much Thompson had declined since their first meeting.
Now sure Thompson beat Price, but Price although a hard puncher was much more fragile mentally than anyone suspected. Thompson beat Price mentally even more so than his punches.
Now all credit to Pulev that he becomes only the third person to beat Thompson, but prior to his second fight with Wlad, Thompson had only fought just once in almost 2 years.
So whilst Thompson had the beating of Price, that alone shouldn’t elevate Thompson above what he really is, a good experienced tricky boxer, but not a “world beater” and certainly not the fighter he was say 5 years ago.
In my opinion Pitbull you are elevating Pulev on too high a pedestal, he’s a tough all-rounder, but I wouldn’t make him out to be anything too special.

Posted August 24, 2013 11:37 pm 


PitBull Petrill

Tark, when did he remove his trunks? I didn’t see that.

Posted August 24, 2013 11:25 pm 


PitBull Petrill

If Haye beats Baby Huey than I’ll rate him above Pulev. UNtil then, he is still in my top 5 but no higher.

Posted August 24, 2013 11:17 pm 


PitBull Petrill

KL: Price and Wlad are huge punchers whereas Pulev has decent to good power. The difference is Price lost to Tony and Wlad and Pulev are the only fighters to have beaten Thompson besides some random Joe in a 4 rounder. Thompson is damn good and even tougher to look god against. Pulev is truly a good fighter.

Posted August 24, 2013 11:11 pm 


KL

Assyrain God, in the other Pulev thread you said “Pulev has beaten pretty good fighter in Ustinov and Dimitrenko”………whilst you might be able to make the case for Dimentreko………… but Ustinov???
Ustinov is slow and lumbering and is a poor fighter, at best he’s won his fights with size but not fighting skills.
Tonight’s Tony Thompson could probably beat Ustinov without breaking too much sweat.

Posted August 24, 2013 11:06 pm 


Alonzo

Pulev=Chageav in both form and substance. The new “White Tyson”

Posted August 24, 2013 11:00 pm 


KL

Pulev as I keep saying is a solid fighter, but does nothing outstanding, and whilst he seems to have a great jaw, other fighters Dimentrenko & to a much lesser extent Ustinov, did manage to land good shots on Pulev, and as Thompson showed tonight, Pulev can and does get hit.
Given Pulev’s lack of a big weapon in his arsenal, and his tendency to take shots I don’t think you can really say that Pulev beats everyone not named Klitschko or Haye.
There are plenty of contenders who could have a good hard fought battle with Pulev, but I don’t think Pulev showed anything tonight or his previous 2 fights that suggests he’s any better than the contenders just below Haye.

Posted August 24, 2013 10:40 pm 


Alonzo

Thanks Pul vs Thomp–I’m watchin’ it now.

Holy smokes! Is that Randy Neumann as the ref?

Posted August 24, 2013 10:28 pm 


TARK

It was a sloppy fight… Any fight involving Thompson is going to be sloppy. I had the first 3 rounds for TT and the rest to Pulev.

I think Haye is the best contender. After watching this fight I see Fury beating Pulev as well … so I see Fury as number 2 and Pulev 3.

Deontay Wilder should be able to take Pulev if he can find an opponent to go a few rounds with him and give him some needed mid and late round experience.. Wilder would be to fast and sharp for Pulev.. Kubrat can definitely be hit and hit real good.

Pulev doesn’t have an arsenal.. He’s too tentative and didn’t throw uppercuts or any hooks to the body at all. He has no inside game at all. He didn’t follow up his advantage when he landed his biggest punches on Thompson. TT didn’t make it easy. The last few rounds he was in there to survive.

Haye, I believe, would knock Thompson out.. He trains down finer than any other heavyweight I’ve ever seen, and he’s very sharp with his left hook to the body. I see that fight going maybe 5 or 6.

It was classless for Thompson to remove his trunks after the fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 10:28 pm 


KL

PitBull Petrill, Thompson last opponents(Wlad & Price) have managed to deck Thompson, so I’m not sure that being capable of “hurting” today’s Thompson is too much of a statement, plenty of other contenders could have hurt tonight’s Thompson.

Posted August 24, 2013 10:24 pm 


Pulev v Thompson

pitbull, you should include Haye.

Posted August 24, 2013 9:42 pm 


Pulev v Thompson

youtube.com/watch?v=V23XWWC-8oM

Posted August 24, 2013 9:13 pm 


PitBull Petrill

Pulev looked pretty good as he hurt Thompson a few times. I think Pulev beats anyone not named Klitschko. But he will be KOed by Wlad, mark my word.

Posted August 24, 2013 9:11 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Pulev fight should be on there by tomorrow

Posted August 24, 2013 9:03 pm 


Twiiter

Someone is saying the Mares fight is off, opponent has pulled out.

Posted August 24, 2013 8:54 pm 


serge

The author of this article should never be allowed to jugde a pro fight.
He has just no clue what he is talking about.
“I had Shihepo winning by a landslide 12 round decision. ”
Which fight did he watch? Sure,AA showed a less than stellar
performance,but he did enough to win the fight.Shipeho hardly connected
with any telling punch.Disappointing performance by AA,but by no means
did he lose his encounter with the African.
Pulev:”he appeared to lose the first four rounds”
Once again: which fight did the author watch? There is no doubt that Pulev
clearly won round 3 and 4.
Poor article by an author who seems to prefer writing down his biased
opinion to trying to be as objective as possible.

Posted August 24, 2013 8:49 pm 


GD

That’s a good point, I think Chisora is a perfect next fight for Pulev.

Posted August 24, 2013 8:42 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

I flushed a couple a browns just minutes ago…

Posted August 24, 2013 8:40 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

mayweather 86: Are you a Browns fan? I think I remember you saying that you’re from Ohio, right? You just can’t beat some good Chinese, Thai or Viet food along with some tasty, aromatic Kush. I prefer a couple bong hits of KGB with some top-shelf vodka like Stolichnaya Elit. Worked out hard all week, so am definitely gettin’ the old fade on tonight. Know what I’m saying?

Posted August 24, 2013 8:34 pm 


KL

AssyrianGod Whilst I completely agree with what you say about Pulev, my list of who Pulev could beat differs from yours.
I certainly can’t see even a peak Chisora beating Pulev, simply put Pulev scores by landing accurately for the moat part………Chisora for all his gameness doesn’t land with much accuracy………hitting largely arms or gloves……..neither boxer would land with enough power to gain a knock out but Pulev would certainly rack up the points against Chisora.
As for Pulev beating Wilder, I’m not certain of that, but it will be an intriguing fight with Power vs an Iron chin. Now we still can’t be sure of Wilder’s chin or defense as it stands TODAY (not when Wilder was a 12 fight rookie). The general consensus amongst those that have sparred with
Wilder (Unlike us air chair “experts”) is that he has got a sound defense & skills as a boxer.
Whilst Pulev seems to have a great chin, I have noticed that Pulev has got easily hit by Dimentrenko, & early on by Thompson, and even though Unstinov is a terribly slow inaccurate boxer, he did manage to land at least 2 big bombs on Pulev.
So I don’t think Pulev is a particularly elusive target, and whatever you may think of Wilder he is fast and powerful, which in my mind gives him an early advantage over Pulev, now should Pulev survive an early onslaught then yes the odds would begin to favour Pulev.
As for Fury, this could be close, but Pulev has a better chin so I’d favour Pulev.

Posted August 24, 2013 8:26 pm 


§

Cobra is pure se.x!!!!

Posted August 24, 2013 8:25 pm 


donkey balls

‘coulda gone either way’ affair and not the “highly controversial gift” that you make it out to be.

Posted August 24, 2013 8:23 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Gonzo: Thanks for the link to that website! Looks like a great archive for going back to watch just about any fight. As you said, there’s not a link for Pulev vs. Thompson as of yet, but I’ll be sure to check back throughout the next couple weeks.

You stay up late and tune in for the Mares and Santa Cruz fights tonight???

Posted August 24, 2013 8:23 pm 


donkey balls

This writer is a biased piece of sour piss. The Abraham fight was a close ‘coulda gone either way’ affair. And the rest of your article sucked donkey balls. Anytime I see this ‘authors’ name again I will simply skim over the article. Won’t waste my time

Posted August 24, 2013 8:22 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Kubrat Pulev was fighting a bit cautious against Tony Thompson but for a good reason. Pulev did not want to risk annything against the more ring expearended 2-time world heavyweight title challanger BUT we all knew old timer Thompson would get an difficult fight against prime level Pulev. Still he got 4 rounds of the fight and pressed Pulev so he did a decent job in the ring. Congratulations Kubrat Pulev for your first big career victory and your now Nr.1 mandatory world heavyweight title shot against Wladimir Klitschko. Altough I highly doubt that Pulev will have a decent chanse to defeat Wladimir Klitschko, the best heavyweight boxer in the league. Still Pulev have earned his title shot the classic way and desserves one as well.

Posted August 24, 2013 8:18 pm 


drx

well not the best fight from Pulev but considering Thompson is on a high after the price knockouts and thompsons akward style+ pulev been inactive and didn’t look in the best shape Pulev did what he suppose to, win the fight.

ps. the writer Wladimir S is a sad little fu

Posted August 24, 2013 8:05 pm 


KL

Gonzo the Dragonborn et al, I’ll chime in with my best & worse predictions with money won & lost with most of them (not just a prediction without any stake)

Best Predictions :

Witherspoon to beat Bruno
Holyfield to beat Tyson (First fight & second)
Moorer to beat Holyfield (First fight)
Barrera to beat Naseem Hamed

Worst Predictions

Guinn to beat Barrett
Price to beat Thompson (both fights)
Spinks to beat Tyson.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:58 pm 


Turbo-Hamster

PEEJ you piece of dessicated spunk crust you totally care. You care like a carebear, or you wouldn`t be on here telling us how much you don`t.

You`re so bitter that if you took a bite out of a lemon, the lemon would be the one to scrunch up it`s face.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:37 pm 


Kid Blast

wLAD WILL SLAUGHTER pULEV

Posted August 24, 2013 7:35 pm 


Uk

Tehran will get him, LBW.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:30 pm 


TomCribb

Baseball was invented in England before the USA even existed

Posted August 24, 2013 7:29 pm 


Uk

Baseball, that’s rounders isn’t it.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:28 pm 


mayweather 86

Sc, I’m right there with ya, watching browns and Colts at the moment. Def in for mares later. Chinese food and a blunt. Very key

Posted August 24, 2013 7:24 pm 


Dionysus

Toney, was never a true heavy, used deca to gain weight and then got his headed punched in. He was only good at trash talk and now he’s punchy and still tries to trash talk but you can’t understand as he mumbles. He was constantly calling out the Klitschkos while he was getting worked out by bums and has beens. Truth is, guy would need a ladder to tag either Klitschko in the face.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:24 pm 


TomCribb

or Fly

Posted August 24, 2013 7:21 pm 


TomCribb

@Peej – What Lighter weights? There are no good USA fighters at Straw weight, Light Fly, Jr Bantam, Bantam, Jr. Feather or Feather (apart from Mikey Garcia), no one at Jr Lightweight (apart from Terrence Crawford), the best Jr. Mids are Mexican, no Middles (apart from Quillen), no Super Mids (apart from Ward), Kovalev’s the best Light Heavy (BHOP’s days are numbered, Dawson and Cloud are exposed), no one at Cruiser, and old TT still the top US guy at heavy…so are you including all those Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Columbians, Cubans, Argentinians, Panamanians, Venezuelans etc as well as the odd Armenian or East European who fights in the USA at those weights? Cos not many of ‘em are Americans.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:18 pm 


TARK

James Toney was in great shape for the Holyfield fight at 217… The last time I ever saw him in fighting shape… In the interview after the fight the announcer asked Toney how he, a former middleweight, could absorb such hard early shots from a heavyweight like Evander Holyfield.

Tony said.., “I’M UNDESTRUCTABLE”

MC…, “You just coined a new word.”

Toney.., “I’M UNDESTRUCTABLE!!!”

Posted August 24, 2013 7:17 pm 


Fights

Haye v Fury, everyone will want to see that, great heavyweight fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:16 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

mayweather 86: Well thanks for filling me in, mano. I’m going to the store to get all set to watch my team (Denver Broncos) play the The Rams. Then I’ll be watching boxing (Mares & Santa Cruz bouts) later on tonight.

Really wanted to See Pulev vs. Thompson, but oh well. Can’t see ‘em all I guess. Sounds like it was nothing spectacular, but I’ll probably end up seeing the replay and/or highlights anyway. Peace…

Posted August 24, 2013 7:14 pm 


PEEJ

Well that’s my point. Toney could still win some fights but if he came in in shape I would if have him a shot against anybody. Not anymore but when he first came up I would have. And someone is using my name because he can’t come up with his own.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:13 pm 


Lenin

Kovalev will MURDER Braehmer.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:11 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

There should be a download link a little later

Posted August 24, 2013 7:10 pm 


Lenin

Official result: Braehmer wins by UD: 119-108, 119-108 and 115-111.
I had it 118 – 109 (because of one point reduction) for Braehmer.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:10 pm 


Anonymous

“Wlad, Vitali or Haye”

Haye sucks.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:08 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

The pic of Gatti’s face at the top the page on his banner Brother Lion King

Posted August 24, 2013 7:08 pm 


Lenin

Braehmer wins his fight vs. the small Italian. Braehmer was never in trouble but could not stop the Italian. Not a great performance by the German, Kovalev would beat him singlehandedly.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:07 pm 


PEEJ

I can’t see Kovalev beating Braehmer at all. I think he’s going to get knocked out early if they fight each other.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:06 pm 


AssyrianGod

Pulev is very very far from a ”monster” that some label him to be. He has a good chin, is very consistent, has fair overall skills, is competent and focused, and has good stamina. HOWEVER, he is far from a concussive puncher, he is not overly fast, either in hand or foot speed, and does everything competently but nothing amazingly. He really cannot trouble Wlad, Vitali or Haye, and I doubt he would beat a focused Fury. A motivated Povetkin would have a slight edge too. He deserves a shot at Wlad, which he will lose by UD or late stoppage, after which I see him as a top 6 or 7 heavy. He should be able to beat Solis, Helenius, Wilder, Price, Adamek, Stiverne and Jennings, but weirdly, i’m not so sure he beats an in shape Chisora.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:06 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Brother Gonzo: I went to “@ThatSimbros” Twitter page, but could not find any Gatti pics. Don’t know how I’m missing it, but can’t find it.

Why, what am I missing???

Posted August 24, 2013 7:05 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Thank you Brother Joseph

Posted August 24, 2013 7:04 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Liar liar pants on fire.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:03 pm 


Lenin

What’s the fighting name of the Italian? Headbuttini? And Braehmer struggles with this smallish Italian…. Oh my.

Posted August 24, 2013 7:00 pm 


PEEJ

So then y’all actually think James Toney came into shape once he moved to heavy?

Posted August 24, 2013 6:58 pm 


PEEJ

Most definitely wasn’t me, I though my phone auto corrected till I read the whole thing

Posted August 24, 2013 6:57 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Chambers had weighed in under the cruiserweight limit in training quite a few times before he moved down in weight.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:57 pm 


Lenin

Pulev proved to have a good stamina, I didn’t see him having any physical problems, he showed no signs of fatigue even in the last round.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:56 pm 


PEEJ

I’m not discrediting his victory. I’ve only seen 4 fights this year. A Jennings fight, 2 Wilder fights and the heavy wight fight the showed on ESPN2 last weekend. I don’t care bout the heavies. I like the lower weight classes. I am aware heavy weight boxing is alive and well over seas. Just not in America. Only reason it gets play here in Smerica is because of Wilder and Jenjings. The only 2 American heavy weights to come into shape. They not beating the Klitchkos though

Posted August 24, 2013 6:56 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

DRX: Thanks man! MY prediction was indeed accurate, but truth is that I get most of them right. I just don’t consider myself a “fight prophet” and brag about my predictions.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:56 pm 


Dionysus

I said Thompson would win a he lost. I do still think Pulev will not Give Wlad a run. Also, Pulev is a fighter. As a professional, he and all other pro boxers should stay in shape at all times to maintain professionalism as its their occupation, their bread and butter.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:54 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

That last comment was written by an imposter. PEEJ me thinks.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:53 pm 


xxx

No one is mentioning the fact that Pulev had only month and a half for preparation, this is too little time for oponent like Tompson.For me he Pulev was in worse shape than against Ustinov and Dimitrenko.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:52 pm 


TARK

Chris Byrd should never have been fighting as a light heavyweight at his age after so many years—and so much success at heavyweight…

Same thing with Eddie Chambers campaigning as a Cruiserweight.

Going up in weight, even if you’re over 30, isn’t super hard… Going down is weight is a killer.. The boxers are faster.. They even punch harder than you would expect.

And guess what? You don’t have the size and strength advantage you thought you would have… That all went away with the weight loss.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:51 pm 


Cobra

xxx

No one is mentioning the fact that Pulev had only month and a half for preparation, this is too little time for oponent like Tompson.For me he Pulev was in worse shape than against Ustinov and Dimitrenko.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:51 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Oh contraire Brother Joseph.. Physical appearances can tell us an awful lot. I knew PEEJ was a complete doofus the first time I laid eyes upon him.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:50 pm 


Dionysus

Let it e known, that I, Dionysus have arrived fully prepared to eat crow…

Posted August 24, 2013 6:50 pm 


Xavier

KL, agree with your analysis. Wlad is more at risk against a durable puncher type who will take risks more than against solid technical boxers like Pulev.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:49 pm 


mayweather 86

Squared circle, you weren’t missing much neither fight was particularly good. Ive never used it before got it from someone else

Posted August 24, 2013 6:47 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Get your own act you loser.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:47 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

WTF?? You’re stealing my style now as well PEEJ?

Posted August 24, 2013 6:46 pm 


Joseph Herron

Regardless of what condition Tony was in, this victory for Pulev really speaks volumes on his ability as a boxer in the Heavyweight division.

This was by far his toughest test to date as a professional.

I stated this before the bout…if Pulev wins decisively against Thompson, I would have to favor him against Povetkin.

I liked Povetkin before the Thompson bout…but now, Pulev has shown that he can control distance against a usually effective pressure fighter. His calm demeanor in the ring is very impressive.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:43 pm 


Lenin

Kovalev would mob the floor with Braehmer.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:42 pm 


Lenin

lol @PEEJ

Posted August 24, 2013 6:40 pm 


PEEJ

Like I said Thompson never comes to a fight in shape. Being in better shape than his last fight means nothing. Boxing is a sport you must be dedicated to and come in shape at all times. Thompson doesn’t do that. He never even came in shape to the Klithko foghts

Posted August 24, 2013 6:39 pm 


Joseph Herron

That’s right, Gonzo

Chris Byrd looked to be in great shape against Shaun George…but he obviously overtrained and got KO’d

You can also cite the second Johnson/Dawson bout in which Johnson overtrained and got his arse handed to him in the gym by Lucian Bute. He left everything he had in the gym.

Physical appearances don’t tell you everything.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:39 pm 


PEEJ

Braehmer will knock Kovalev out.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:37 pm 


rod

Pulev did what many believed the the future KO king tried to do twice and got crushed badly. He beat Tony. Doubt he will beat wlad but will give him a good fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:37 pm 


Simon says

Someone stole Proud Africans sega master system as well.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:35 pm 


rod

Wow I picked this one perfectly. I predicted pulev would win by wide ud. I predicted Tony would do well for 4 rounds then tire and lose over a wide UD. Tough one to call and my prediction of the fight was exact

Posted August 24, 2013 6:34 pm 


Joseph Herron

DRX,

you just proved my point, brother.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:34 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Whether he was fully fit is a different story though.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:33 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Thompson looked in much better shape than he did for the Price fights you doofus.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:32 pm 


Joseph Herron

Very true, TARK.

Even when you’re trying to aniticpate a specific fight strategy, it can be tricky sometimes.

Depending on how athletic or versatile a fighter is, it can be difficult against certain opposition.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:32 pm 


on the button

another talyor made bs fight Juergen Braehmer needs to step his level up being pro since 1999

Posted August 24, 2013 6:28 pm 


PEEJ

And Thompson was not in shape. I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen him in shape

Posted August 24, 2013 6:24 pm 


PEEJ

Nope I’m not bitter at all. I like the lower weight classes. They come into shape and they are not boring to me. They don’t really show heavyweight boxing in America and the ones that do get shown are boring hug fest or quick KOs

Posted August 24, 2013 6:23 pm 


drx

I saw a CORRECT prediction from

Brother Turbo Hamster

Brother Squared Circle

Brother rod

Brother de Lima I

Brother Tark

Posted August 24, 2013 6:23 pm 


TARK

Herron…, “No one has any idea how any fight will turn out with 100% certainty.”

That’s very true… But you can do 90% certainty if you’re good enough. The thing is to get the odds right—not necessarily pick the winner. Be right on the character and general breakdown of the styles and action that will take place.

Even Guerrero might have beaten Floyd… But I figured he was at least a 12:1 underdog… So Floyd was a much safer bet than the actual odds.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:21 pm 


Koolz

damn I swear Abatangel is going to be getting hit with Upper cuts

Posted August 24, 2013 6:20 pm 


drx

To put things straight….I saw a CORRECT prediction from

Brother Turbo Hamster

Brother Squared Circle

Brother rod

Brother de Lima I

Brother Tark

Posted August 24, 2013 6:20 pm 


BLUESMAN

Thompson would’ve won if he hadn’t been so grossly fat and out of shape! I’m a Thompson fan, but his fatness was a DISGRACE, worthy of Odlanier Solis! But I’ll ALWAYS be a Tony Thompson fan. Next time, please come in below 245, Tony.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:19 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Lol Brother Turbo-Hamster.

My greatest predictions:

Sanders KO Wlad
Margarito stops Cotto late

My worst:

David Tua KO Lennox Lewis
Lucian Bute beats Carl Froch

Posted August 24, 2013 6:13 pm 


TARK

Obvious Ernie is posting under my name again.. On the most obnoxious post below.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:12 pm 


Turbo-Hamster

Yes TARK did have Pulev from the start. But the Pulev he ias actually talking about is the 11 year old Hungarian boy who comes around to mow his lawn

Posted August 24, 2013 6:11 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Brother Lion KIng.. Type @ThatSimbros into Google and check out the guy’s Twitter page and specifically the link under the Gatti pic

Posted August 24, 2013 6:10 pm 


TARK

Thanks dwc….

Posted August 24, 2013 6:10 pm 


Koolz

alright can Braehamer do it!

Posted August 24, 2013 6:10 pm 


Turbo-Hamster

To be fair Gonzo, I think you get the prediction right then the fighters get the fight wrong

Posted August 24, 2013 6:10 pm 


dwc

Tark…You did pick Pulev,I read it in one of your post awhile ago when the fight was made.I know your high on the kid..myself I think hes abit overrated.After the k-bros retire and Haye,then Pulev might be the best out there.Like I said before Pulev should get a belt in the future,but those belts will be handed back and forth I belive in the future.Pulev will have a up and down career I belive,because hes not that special overall.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:09 pm 


Koolz

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

it’s probably already on allthebestfights

Posted August 24, 2013 6:07 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Everyone gets predictions wrong. Even I, Lord Gonzo of ESB, get them wrong occasionally.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:07 pm 


smooth

abraham lost this fight clearly and the ref was to involed in the mix any fan who think’s abraham won and he only faught in spurt’s and landed one shot at a time are not boxing fan’s they are favorite lover’s ,,abraham lost and shihepo clearly scored yes scored more shot’s and yes that was a knock down the ref injected himself into this fight and this is wrong

Posted August 24, 2013 6:07 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

The scary thing is stumpy little zero confidence coming off 2 back to back loses and a TKO2 victory where his journeyman opponent damaged his hand crappy at the higher weight Abraham was actually holding his own against Ward in the early going until he gassed. lol

Posted August 24, 2013 6:05 pm 


Proud African

No wonder you call yourself Lenin. You belong on the extinct list and should be embalmed.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:04 pm 


Tark

To all of you out there that are not on my level as an expert, I told you that was going to be the outcomes.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:04 pm 


on the button

@lenin AA is just throwing looping shots at end of each rds similar to marco huck

Posted August 24, 2013 6:03 pm 


H

Mickey Vann had it 117-111, he is not a good judge, he should be thrown in the skip.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:00 pm 


Lenin

Okay, Proud African is obviously a troll and now on the ignore list. Bye bye, PA, have a nice life.

Posted August 24, 2013 6:00 pm 


Lenin

on the button, yes, 117-111 is nonsense, but AA won 115-113. IN NO WAY this is a robbery.
Now let’s see what Braehmer can do.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:59 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I only watched a couple of rounds so I can’t score it but the home crowd seemed to think the Shihepo was hard done by.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:59 pm 


Koolz

I thought Abraham landed the better shots. Almost all night Shihepo was hitting his gloves. Some nice body shots but didn’t really do it for me.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:58 pm 


Proud African

Lenin, you’re the biased guy. On the flip side of the coin you only want to see WHITE fighters win at all cost. Everyone knows who won the fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:58 pm 


on the button

117-111 come on , like i said you need a knockout to win in germany

Posted August 24, 2013 5:57 pm 


TARK

Anonymouse….,, YOU are dead wrong… FACT…

I had Pulev winning from the start.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:56 pm 


on the button

that score is a disgrace abraham didn’t do nothing except steal rds

Posted August 24, 2013 5:55 pm 


Lenin

Proud African, you’re so biased, it’s no fun. You cannot give points based on the color of the skin of a fighter, you know that, right?

Posted August 24, 2013 5:54 pm 


Lenin

116-112 or 115-113 is okay. AA won, but it was closer than he expected.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:52 pm 


meja

What a joke of a result

Posted August 24, 2013 5:52 pm 


Lenin

Official result: 116-113, 116-112, 117-111, Abraham by UD.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:51 pm 


TARK

Anonymous…

Here’s the proof I had Pulev winning all along. I thought he would be an easy winner when the fight was made. He looked a little soft later on in training, like he was taking Thompson lightly, so I thought maybe it would be tougher… I never changed my pick.

TARK

Everybody has been avoiding Pulev so he’s been on the shelf… Thompson doesn’t think that way.. He sees that Pulev has only 17 pro fights and a limited number of rounds.. He’s almost as green as a professional as David Price was, and only has a 53% KO ratio.

I just see Pulev winning easy.

Posted August 1, 2013 7:48 pm

Posted August 24, 2013 5:51 pm 


Proud African

Abraham fights in spurts. Not the same fighter he once was. Shihepo should win this fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:50 pm 


Lenin

Round 12 to Abraham who failed to impress. He has no business at SMW, but should win this fight. Nevertheless, this fight was cloaser than AA’s team may have expected.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:49 pm 


flash knock down

This is the worse group of Heavy weights in the history of boxing. I don’t mean to rain on anyone but this is terrible .

Posted August 24, 2013 5:48 pm 


dwc

Well I got this one right…for a change lately.Thompson losing the latter rds. well age and to much weight,just as I thought.But Pulev is overrated with nothing super special,most likely a future belt holder.But a guy that will lose some and go up and down in his career.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:48 pm 


Lenin

I give round 11 to Shihepo. Nothing spectacular by Abraham who would be overwhelmed by the top 10 fighters of the alphabet boxing organisations at SMW.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:45 pm 


Lenin

Dammit, Shihepo is taking some big shots and is still going forward. Abraham won this round, but again respect to Shihepo.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:40 pm 


KL

Xavier I think we already know what challenge Pulev would be to Wlad……….. not much of one.
Pulev is solid and workman like………but that isn’t going to trouble Wlad.
Pulev has a solid chin and that could see him going the distance with Wlad………but Wlad would win by jab jab jab………..
Any REAL challenge to Wlad will come from someone who has something a bit special in one or two departments…….. not someone who is “solid” is all departments…….but not particularly special in any.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:39 pm 


Lenin

Round 9 to Abraham who landed some BIG shots. Respect to Shihepo for taking them without performing a wobbly dance.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:36 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

discovered

Posted August 24, 2013 5:34 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Proud African.. Abraham has looked pretty poor in almost all his fights since he moved up to 12st. His only really impressive performance at that weight came against Edison Miranda, and that was back before Moses discoverd his first grey pube.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:33 pm 


Lenin

Round 8 close. I give it to Shihepo, once again for his higher workrate.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:32 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I was very surprised at how good Thompson’s body looked (no homo). From a purely physical perspective he looked in his best shape in ages to me.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:29 pm 


Anonymouse

TARK

you didn’t have the ba!!s to predict a Pulev victory. FACT.

And Herron was dead wrong. FACT.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:29 pm 


Xavier

So Pulev won and we will see what kind of a challenge he poses to Wlad in due course. Two tall technical European boxers with good jabs.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:28 pm 


Lenin

Round 7 also to Abraham. Not a great fight up to now.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:28 pm 


Anonymouse

Jospeh

You said: how could he be.

So it must have been clear before the fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:27 pm 


raygordonreid

let;s go ARBHAM

Posted August 24, 2013 5:26 pm 


KL

Joseph Herron, you really think a month would have made the slightest bit of difference?
You seem to overestimate old Tony Thomson ability to go from “out of shape” into “into shape” in space of 4 weeks.
Like I said a 30 year old Thompson could probably get into shape……..but Thompson is almost 42, his body can’t suddenly “get into shape” in the space of 4 weeks…………Thompson is not going to get in “better shape”…….not significantly anyway……..the result would be the same…….a wide Pulev margin……..regardless if Thomson got an extra 4 weeks to prepare or not.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:25 pm 


Proud African

This is not the Abraham of old. Andre Ward and Carl Froch has destroyed his effectiveness. It’s still possible for him to win though.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:25 pm 


Anonymouse

Joseph Herron your prediction:

If Pulev had power, I might actually favor the very relaxed and confident, undefeated fighter. But the talented Bulgarian just doesn’t have the crack in his shot to keep Thompson off of him.

Thompson TKO 9 over Pulev

Posted August 24, 2013 5:24 pm 


Lenin

Round 6 to Abraham whose timing has improved. Shihepo ate some leather.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:24 pm 


TARK

It IS hard to hit a tall southpaw with jabs… That’s what I said… Even Wladimir, with one of the greatest jabs in Heavyweight History found it hard to find Thompson consistently with his jab.

Pulev has a great jab as well. I look forward to seeing him fight Wladimir.. I hope he has another fight before that happens because he hadn’t fought in so long.. He needs to schedule another fight to keep sharpening up his less then masterful all-around skills.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:24 pm 


Joseph Herron

Anonymouse,

why should I have known that before the fight? Better yet, how would I have known?

I know Tony…but he won’t even tell me when he’s suffering from an ailment until after the fight. Especially someone like Tony.

Tony didn’t even tell his wife or trainer Barry Hunter that his knee was injured while training for his first bout with Wladimir Klitschko.

He ended showing that he tore his miniscus while training for that bout and fought Wlad with a tear in his knee.

So once again, why should I have known that before the fight?

Posted August 24, 2013 5:23 pm 


Lenin

Close round that I give to Shihepo based on workrate again, although Shihepos punches land most often on Abraham’s trademarked ear muff defense.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:21 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Thank you Fish Eyes, I agree with all the points I made too. :)

Posted August 24, 2013 5:20 pm 


Anonymouse

TARK

C’mon!! You’ve NEVER predicted a Pulev victory!! NEVER!!

Posted August 24, 2013 5:20 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Abraham’s form at super-middle has been poor to say the least. He’s struggled in almost every fight he’s had at the weight, even against opponents from the lower tiers. People try and big him up because his one of Ward and Froch’s opponents and participated in the Super Six but fact is he’s just not very good at that weight at all.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:19 pm 


TARK

WRONG anonymous… I was NOT wrong… I predicted a Pulev victory all along. The evidence in their in my prior posts on articles on this fight. I said Pulev would win and never pegged Thompson as the winner.

But it was tough because he WAS rusty… He was on the shelf for nearly a year and with only 17 pro fights he had a very slow start and didn’t get the stoppage. He had to go the 12. He obviously has a lot of grit and determination, but he didn’t get tagged a whole lot and didn’t need a lot of it.

He’s a much better fighter than David Price, and not as good as Wladimir.. That’s the take away from the fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:17 pm 


Joseph Herron

It would seem that way, Prof Konje, but that’s not the way it really is.

Depending on how much damage you sustain in your previous fight determines how much time you need between bouts.

Thompson looked to be physically OK after the Price bout, which took place on July 6th, but he was floored and ate some really hard leather throughout the fight.

You have to wait until your body heals before you start preparing for another opponent… and at almost 42 years of age, that’s probably why he seemed so out of shape.

Usually when a fighter takes another assignment this close to his last bout, he runs the risk of overtraining and coming into the fight with little to no energy…fighters will often leave it in the gym, so to say, when they overtrain.

But I think it was more than likely the former and not the latter…but I could be wrong.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:15 pm 


Proud African

Shihepo has surprised me so far. Abraham is a tough fighter.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:13 pm 


Anonymouse

Joseph Herron In retrospect, was Tony 100% going into this fight? How could he be.

You should have known that BEFORE the fight.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:12 pm 


Lenin

Round 3 to Abraham for landing the bigger shots, but Shihepo is game.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:12 pm 


Lenin

Round 2 to Shihepo for being much more active and putting pressure on Abraham.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:08 pm 


Robo

Joseph Herron,

good questions. I think Pulev’s team were well aware that Tony is very dangerous while fresh and they also knew that he will not be able to last the 12 rounds. For that reason I think Pulev was extra cautious in the first 3-4 rounds.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:07 pm 


Fish Eyes

I agree with Gonzo. On all the points he made about Wlad, Thompson Pulev ect..

Posted August 24, 2013 5:06 pm 


Lenin

I mean he won the first round. Sorry.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:04 pm 


raygordonreid

HUSKTER WALD PROTEMIKN OCT 5 2013

Posted August 24, 2013 5:04 pm 


Lenin

Abraham wins round 1 vs. Shihepo.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:04 pm 


KL

Heron I kinda gave my response below.
I don’t think Thompson “shape” was a factor. Pulev just needed time to figure out the tricky Thompson, but once he did Thompson wasn’t in the contest.
At this stage of his career Thompson wouldn’t have made too much difference to his shape, now if Thompson was 10 years younger that would be different.
Thompson didn’t lose because he was out of shape…….he lost because he was giving away 10 years to a decent if not particularly spectacular solid chinned fighter.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:03 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Wlad will probably beat Pulev pretty easily (Pulev is tough and he has a very good chin though) but stylistically he won’t be as awkward of an opponent for Pulev as Thompson was.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:02 pm 


Joseph Herron

That’s right, Lenin.

It raised a red flag yesterday when he showed up to the weigh in wearing a t shirt.

posted my concerns before the fight started and it turned out to be true unfortunately. I can’t stand when a fighter doesn’t give himself the best chance to win and shows up to the fight ill-prepared.

The fans are deprived of what kind of drama they should have seen unfold in the ring. Instead they end up getting a lesser product.

It’s hard to fault fighters like Thompson, because his opportunities are fleeting and he needs to think about his life after boxing…a healthy paycheck is hard to turn down.

But why couldn’t he ask for an additional month for his body to heal so he could properly prepare for this bout? Obviously that wasn’t an option.

It’s a shame. The fans of boxing deserve better.

Posted August 24, 2013 5:02 pm 


Prof Konje

Herron, how long ago was it that Thompson fought Price? It seems to me that it was very recent. He should have been in decent condition unless he really went downhill since the Price fight. Could it be that he was just in it for a pay day?

Posted August 24, 2013 5:01 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

How many times had Thompson lost going into this fight? And to who? Other than an loss in a four rounder during his first year as a pro, which is meaningless given he only had 16 amateur fights, he’s only lost twice, and in 13 years, to Wlad who is one of the division’s greats. I’m not a Pulev fan but Thompson is a good fighter and crucially he’s a huge 6’6 southpaw and awkward as hell. He’s a stylistic nightmare for many fighters, especially one like Pulev whose jab is his bread and butter. I remember reading an interview with the late Emanuel Steward (RIP) where he explained in detail why Thompson was such a stylistic nightmare and so difficult to fight. I think Wlad should handle Pulev pretty comfortably, assuming he doesn’t get old over night that is, but I wouldn’t read too much into this fight given what a tricky and awkward customer Thompson is.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:57 pm 


huckster

pulev- (wlad-povetkin) 2014!

Posted August 24, 2013 4:56 pm 


Joseph Herron

Guys, in TARK’s defense…when you’re trying to examine a style match-up and make a prediction for an upcoming bout, most of time you take in account that both fighters will enter the ring without injury and in proper fight shape.

But, in my experience, very rarely does any fighter enter the ring without some kind of physical ailment. Sometimes it’s a factor in determining the outcome, sometimes it isn’t.

That’s why I don’t make predictions a very high priority on my analysis articles, and state that they’re primarily for entertainment.

In retrospect, was Tony 100% going into this fight? How could he be.

How much of this victory do you think was because of Pulev being Pulev, or Tony not being able to be Tony? Also, was Tony not able to implement his strategy because of Pulev’s ability and execution, or was Tony simply not in proper fight shape?

What do you guys think?

Posted August 24, 2013 4:52 pm 


knowall

Was pretty sure this fight would go this way. Pulev did what was needed but im sure wlad will have seen nothing to worry him. Old Vítali v old Thompson

Posted August 24, 2013 4:51 pm 


Anonymouse

Joseph Herron

Sorry but your prediction was dead wrong!!

Posted August 24, 2013 4:50 pm 


KL

Joseph, I think actually this was a good a time as any for Thompson to take on Pulev, whilst he (Thompson) was still in fairly decent fighting shape and with confidence sky high, being out of the ring is no good for Thompson at this stage of his career, and lets face it Thompson wasn’t very active prior to his second fight with Wlad.
What next for Thomspon, well I guess he could become the veteran gate keeper for the young guns.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:50 pm 


Lenin

Joseph, you’re right. Thompson is far from being done, he still got some power and lots of experience. But he needs to drop some weight, at 264 lbs he cannot fight for 12 rounds, maybe not even for 6 rounds. 240 lbs would be fine, but his current weight is slowing him down and draining his energy.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:43 pm 


Anonymouse

TARK

”Pulev is a little heavy…he doesn’t look in peak condition.. He’s been on the shelf a long time and may be rusty…

He’s going to have to win this fight on sheer grit and determination — because it’s going to be a very tough fight… It’s very hard to hit a taller southpaw with jabs when you haven’t fought a lot of them… I hope there were a lot of tall, crafty southpaw heavyweights in his camp to spar with.

Wait…there aren’t a whole lot of tall crafty southpaw heavyweights in the world.”

You were dead wrong!! It was not hard at all to hit a taller southpaw!!

Posted August 24, 2013 4:43 pm 


!!!!

Hey Tard give us your opinion about this overrated bum Pulev, do
you think he would have beat a prime Foreman, ? You might think
Foreman would have no answer for Pulev Jab LMFAO, or Bs like Pulev
is a better defender than Ali, what a big threat this Pulev for Wlad and a gold era of heavyweight, what do you think Tard ?

Posted August 24, 2013 4:42 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thompson should have never taken this fight with less than two months to prepare.

When you consider that he needed time to allow his soon to be 42 year old body to heal after taking damage from a very hard puncher like Price, it was a very risky decision for Tony.

I hope Tony gets some much needed rest and fights early next year with a top ten heavyweight. He’s too good to retire.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:40 pm 


Fish Eyes

I doubt Wlad will be worried about fighting Pulev though..

Posted August 24, 2013 4:40 pm 


Proud African

Face it Pulev will get flattened by Wilder.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:39 pm 


Robo

@Lenin

dude he is 6″4 and 1/2. He may not look tall to you but he has the size (194cm)

Posted August 24, 2013 4:38 pm 


Fish Eyes

Proud African is butt hurt, because Pulev won by miles.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:37 pm 


Lenin

Proud African, sorry, but you’re so biased that you’re almost blind. 117-111 is exactly the right score, Thompson won the first three rounds and gased. What do you give him points for? For standing on his feet for another 9 rounds? No, that is in no way a close fight or a debatable result. 117-111 Pulev. End of story.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:35 pm 


Robo

Good win for the Cobra. Thompson proves to be very tricky and he knows the game. While fresh he was very dangerous but his age came into play. I still like Tony but Pulev is n1

Posted August 24, 2013 4:34 pm 


Lenin

With his stiff hips, Pulev would be rocked by Vlads wicked jabs. He would be getting chopped down like a tree. He also doesn’t look like 6 ft 4, he is smaller, which means that Vladimir would tower over him. I can’t see how Pulev could trouble Vlad. A fight vs. Chisora or Arreola would be fun, though. Maybe he could fight Povetkin after the Russian loses to Klitschko.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:33 pm 


Proud African

Like i said the scores were ridiculous. Most of Pulev’s punches (in the earlier rounds) did not land flush. Any in case I don’t see Pulev going far.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:33 pm 


von Pugsly

It takes a special kind of coward to insult an entire nation from the safety of an anonymous moniker on a message board. News flash: nobody gives a crap about your idiotic cultural prejudices. Stick to boxing: you don’t know anything about that either but at least it’s not as offensive.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:32 pm 


KL

Pulev has a chin, and fairly good hand speed when his opponent doesn’t move…….i.e like against the awful lumbering slow Ustinov, and tonight against a tired back against the ropes Thompson.
Wlad won’t have too many worries against Pulev.
Pulev good chin could be a challenge for other contenders though, and if Wilder ever fights Pulev we would see a decent Power vs Solid chin contest.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:31 pm 


von Pugsly

Pulev beat an aging gatekeeper in Thompson. He passed a test. Let’s not crown him as the next HW champ or anything. I’d like to see him in there with someone his own age who can actually fight. The winner of Haye-Fury would make for a nice opponent. If Pulev fights Wlad next he goes down the way so many others have, via late-rounds TKO or else a wide UD.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:29 pm 


Lenin

No, Slim, not Goral, another Tomasz Adamek.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:26 pm 


Di Stefano

It’s not the top ranked Adamek

Posted August 24, 2013 4:26 pm 


Slim Whitman

Wait, Tomas Adamek was buried on this card? THE Tomas Adamek?

Posted August 24, 2013 4:23 pm 


Lenin

Proud African, what are you on? Pulev won CLEARLY by 9 rounds to 3. Ask Stevie Wonder, he saw it this way, too.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:13 pm 


raygordonreid

GREAT

Posted August 24, 2013 4:12 pm 


xxx

Ok Pulev proved that he is not Krasniqi or Price.
Tompson pressed him like he pressed Krasniqi but Pulev handled the presure.
also tompson landed the same punches that he landed on Price but without result.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:11 pm 


Anonymous

Americans arent interested in HW because most are too dumb to know that there is life outside of their own country and everything meaningful at HW happens outside of America these days. 90% of those idiots do not even own a passport, including, I will bet, PEEJ.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:08 pm 


doc

@Lenin – I think that you summed it up perfectly. Although I would slightly tend to disagree on your “footwork” point. I thought that Pulev was often off-balance when he attempted to attack, and therefore landed mainly arm punches (which probably explains his low KO %). I would see a Wlad/Pulev fight resembling the Wlad/Ibragomiv fight (although Pulev is not a southpaw). Neither Wlad of Pulev throw anything more than a jab or one-two combination, and neither of them knows how to fight on the inside….. typical European amatuer-style fighters.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:07 pm 


Proud African

Scores were ridiculous. Pulev is not impressive. Haye or Deontay Wilder can easily take him out.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:07 pm 


Anonymous

PEEJ, get your bitter, biased American comments out of here. You have nothing to add to this topic.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:06 pm 


Lenin

AssyrianGod, Pulev would win by UD vs. Povetkin, but against Tyson Fury, that would be damned close. Vladimir will pick him apart, so would Haye. Vitali is sort of out of the game, he just needs to accept it.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:05 pm 


Anonymous

Thompson was in shape, dumb ass.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:05 pm 


PEEJ

And this is why Americans don’t care about the heavyweight division. Americans can’t seem to get into shape.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:04 pm 


Lenin

Official result: Pulev wins by UD, 116-112, 118-110, 117-111.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:04 pm 


Paddy O’Trenchant

Not funny, TT.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:02 pm 


AssyrianGod

Pulev wins..dull fight though. Pulev is efficient rather than spectacular. He is not amazingly fast, doesnt have tremendous power etc. Just cant see him troubling Wlad, Vitali or Haye at all, and Vs Povetkin or Fury, i’d favour those two.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:02 pm 


Lenin

TT is a troll, Pulev NOT knocked down at all. He won round 12, too, no knockdowns at all.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:02 pm 


Lenin

Fight over, Pulev should win this by wide UD. Pulev showed good boxing skills, good footwork, great condition, some ring intelligence, but his big problem is that he took some good shots by Thompson and shood upright like a damned tree. No lateral movement to take the pressure from the shots he took. I cannot see him being a problem for Vladimir, but Pulev IS a good heavyweight boxer, but not a great one.

Posted August 24, 2013 4:01 pm 


Paddy O’Trenchant

Oh My!

Posted August 24, 2013 4:00 pm 


TT

pULEV KNOCKED OUT.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:59 pm 


TT

Pulev down,

Posted August 24, 2013 3:58 pm 


Lenin

Pulev easily wins round 11. He is not taking any risks, though, still cautious. His footwork is good, but his lateral movement is almost nonesistent. This could prove to be lethal vs. Vladimir.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:56 pm 


mayweather 86

Thanks Jay. Got it now

Posted August 24, 2013 3:55 pm 


PEEJ

Thompson has never been in shape. Terrible since he just came off a fight

Posted August 24, 2013 3:55 pm 


Paddy O’Trenchant

Thanks, Lenin.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:55 pm 


Lenin

Thompson in deep trouble, totally gased. Pulev still fresh and quick, surprising for a 250 lbs guy. Pulev landing quite a lot, almost at will, now leading 7-3.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:52 pm 


Alonzo

Yeah thank you Lenin. Sounds like we won’t have to suffer through Thompson/Klit three.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:51 pm 


Lenin

Thompson very tired, Pulev in control. Thompson in trouble at the end of the round.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:47 pm 


Lenin

It’s turning into a messy fight. Thompson looking for the infight, Pulev clinching him, arm around his head while hitting him and pushing Thompson, who keeps his head very low often, down.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:44 pm 


Lenin

Pulev wins round 7, now leading 4 rounds to 3. But both are starting to fight dirty, lots of holding and shots to the back of the head and use of elbows in the clinch.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:40 pm 


.

Thompson is getting tired.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:38 pm 


Lenin

Rounds 5 and 6 also to Pulev. 3 rounds both now.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:35 pm 


Lenin

Round 4 to Pulev who landed some good shots and upped the pace a bit.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:29 pm 


Lenin

Round 3 also to the Tiger. Pulev for the first time tried to do something, but with no success. Pulev shows a lack of lateral movement, too, although he’s quite quick on his feet.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:24 pm 


Lenin

2nd round to Thompson, too. Pulev VERY cautious.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:19 pm 


Lenin

First round goes to Tiger Thompson.

Posted August 24, 2013 3:16 pm 


raygordonreid

DIRKS ADAMEK DRAW WOW

Posted August 24, 2013 3:15 pm 



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