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WARD ISNT SH*** , WARD BEAT DAWSON WHO IS MUSH AT 168, DUH- WARD WARD WARD IS WEAK, AND UNTIL HE AND HIS HANDLERS CAN SOMEHOW STOP HOLDING HIS HAND WITH MUSH BUCKET SET UPS LIKE DAWSON, AND STOP GLOATING OVER THE SUPER 6 MESS WHICH WAS THE TOURNY OF , HAS BEENS, WANNA BEES, OLD MEN, HALL OF FAME WISHFULS AND OF COURSE BEATEN FIGHTERS. WARD WILL NEVER BE A ROY JONES JR, NEVER WILL BE A BERNARD HOPKINS. WARD IS THE KING OF THE WORSE DIV IN OVER 20 YEARS IN THE 168DIV. ROY AS A 168 WAS UNTOUCHABLE AND KNOCKED OUT THE BUMS HE FACED AND SHINED IN THE SUPER FIGHTS HE FOUGHT. WARD IS EVEN CLOSE TO ANY OF THAT. THE BOY BEEN FIGHTING IN THE PROS AND HAS TWO NAMES THAT DONT MATTER, DAWSON AND KESSLER. REALLY NOW

Posted September 16, 2012 7:17 pm 


Boxtradamus

WOW WOW WOW!!! Ward has surpassed and I mean SURPASSED many GREATS from the past. Roy Jones jr in Prime couldn’t stop Hopkins or Toney because they were Top 10 P4P. Ward is a SHARK who doesn’t care if you’re P4P or not. IF you’re Top 10 P4P he will actually beat you WORSE for threatening the throne. Unless your name is David you will get eaten UP when you enter the LION’S den.

Posted September 15, 2012 6:13 pm 


Boxtradamus

When you make a Top 10 P4P opponent LOOK like an easy FIght that’s called GREATNESS.

Posted September 15, 2012 6:04 pm 


Boxtradamus

Roy NEVER in his LIFE stopped a Top 10 P4P opponent. Ward is already BETTER than Jones.

Posted September 15, 2012 6:02 pm 


Boxtradamus

Most guys here don’t know too much about Boxing. That’s why their comments are AMATEURISH.

Posted September 15, 2012 6:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

Nope. Ward= W I N N I N G !

Posted September 15, 2012 6:00 pm 


Rodney

Virgil just like his fighter,Ward, is an example of class and talent
that brings much needed honor to the sport boxing!!
-Rod

Posted September 15, 2012 3:06 pm 


Sniper

Ward is LB4LB King! Given his competon it is very hard to argue against that.

Posted September 15, 2012 9:38 am 


Carl

Ward sucks B O R I N G !

Posted September 15, 2012 1:03 am 


SREDMOND

Popkins, Joe could not convincingly beat 43 year old Hopkins he NEVER faced a fighter in their prime as talented as Chad Dawson who beat a guy like Adamek who did not sustain a truly bad loss till he faced a HUGE Vitali Klitschko… Face facts Joe has NEVER looked as convincing against a major opponent as Andre Ward has…..Ward outperformed him against Kessler, and Calzaghe NEVER beat fighters as vetted as Froch and Dawson…. Face Facts Jeff Lacy had under 20 fights when Calz beat his ass, he does not rate against a Froch or Dawson historically……The Hopkins fight is deserving of LITTLE credit some think he lost (not me) but fact is despite B-hops longevity he was 43 years old if Joe was this beast of an ATG then why did he fight on borderline even terms with Bernard??? Ward is making his case FAST and he has already cleaned out the division and is Ring Champ….. Calzaghe has had questions surrounding him for years and he always will….

Posted September 15, 2012 12:31 am 


Leprikawn

Virgil is right, Ward would dismantle Calzaghe! The guy was the English version of Chavez Jr. Protected and directed to do nothing but keep his “O”! If Hopkins, who did not have Brother Nazim with him because of a Stroke, could rattle him and almost KO him, Ward would tear him up!

Chad Dawson said he made the weight with no problem, and it was his idea to fight at 168. He said 3 days before the fight that he had no excuses if he lost because he was going to destroy Andre………..but I guess Chad doesn’t have to make excuses, all of the nitwits who thought it would be an easy night for Chad will do it for him!

Froch talked about how he was going to walk right through Wards punches and KO him! Well Andre had a broken hand going into that fight and Froch was still afraid to make a move after the 1st round!

Posted September 14, 2012 10:18 pm 


Peej

I like Calzaghe but the fact is he never fought anybody in there primes. Well he did take Lacy to school but that was pretty much the only prime fighter he beat. He fought Byron Mitchell and he needed help from the ref with an early stoppage after being dropped by him. I would have to agree with Hunter in which saying how much trouble he had with Hopkins and that Ward is like a younger version but a more active Hopkins. I would have to take Ward if the fight did happen but its not so it does not really matter

Posted September 14, 2012 8:05 pm 


sprint

HUNTER, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THE WISHFUL THOUGHTS YOU GAVE LIGHT TO. WARD IS NO CALZAGE AND SURE IN THE HECK WILL NEVER BE ROY OR B-HOP//////////////////// KEEP WISHING SON.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:53 pm 


Lance

Andre Ward has been a bore to watch. The Dawson fight was OK, but like most have post;;; Dawson is nobody special fighting at a unhealthy weight. Ward’s resume like everyone has already noted,,, IS SOSO. Ward took this long to actually tko and hurt someone. Ward’s people have done like already stated– kept him winning and protected- like they should do. Ward by far is not anybody special, Special is a olympian such as Guillermo Rigondeaux. Now there is a guy who will beat anyones boy in there own backyard with KO power. Too,,,, it only took rigo 12 fights and 2 years to become king. Ward took for ever and still isnt that great.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:50 pm 


tee RExx

Wow oh Wow. Ward is nohwere and I mean nowhere near the great talents of the past. I agree 1000% that ward is a ok fighter at a time that there is absolutely nobody worth a damm. Roy Jones JR in prime would had beat the living daylights out of Ward. Ward has been a pro for 8 years and has taken him that long to do anything worth a blink. Beating Dawson at 168 means squat. Ward’s resume has now two names on it [[[ Kessler who was already a beaten fighter and now Dawson who was also a beaten fighter fighting at a unhealthy weight for a pay day. Virgil HIll==== give us a break.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:44 pm 


CONTROL 1

Virgil hill, is a clown. Do you really want to sell that garbage to a true champ Like JOE C. Ward hasnt scratched the surface of what a true champ is. Ward has come at a time where the 168 div is at it worse with poor talent. Chad dawson was easy at 168, not his strong and healthy weight. Fact is Ward earned me 5000 dollars in Vegas with such a easy fight. Hill dont get me wrong, you have done a beautiful job with Ward. YOu have protected him and maintained a winning record. Dont, please dont try to sell us this crap bout your boy anywhere near the talent of the great ones: roy jones jr, bernard hokins, JOe c- Ward would had been destroyed by any of them at 168.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:39 pm 


T22

For me JC beats Ward purely on accuracy and workrate. But it will be more fair to judge Ward at the end of his career rather than now. I still question Wards chin after seeing him dropped by a journey man early in his career. Normally when this happens early in a career expect the said boxer to suffer a ko loss along the line. Notables are Felix Trinidad, Michael Nunn and Nigel Benn all great boxers.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:26 pm 


TARK

Hunter is right about Ward chewing up Calzaghe. JC may be the 5th best fighter ever produced by Europe—after Lewis, the Klitschkos, and Haye—but Joe was not the defender Andre is. Both Mitchell and Jones floored Calzaghe with short right hooks inside. Mitchell caught him because JC was loading up with wide shots. Jones caught him because JC ducked into the punch. Kessler caught him with some hard right uppercuts JC didn’t see. B-Hop floored JC with a short right he didn’t see. I’ve never seen Ward tagged with shots like that, or anything that was threatening … and Andre’s fought some top ranked champions Joe refused to fight: such as Froch and Dawson

Posted September 14, 2012 5:32 pm 


Kayter

Ward sucks. He reminds me of Hopkins. It takes a fighter like a Roy Jones or Calzage or Taylor to beat Ward. Someone with speed. Ward beat slow whit fighter like Frock, Kessler and Abraham. Ward will be beaten soon.

Posted September 14, 2012 4:42 pm 


prof konje

Ward is THAT GOOD. Nothing else to day. Forget “dream” or “fantasy” match ups. Face the facts and look at “What Is” rather than “What may have been.”

Posted September 14, 2012 4:16 pm 


Boxtradamus

EXCUSE me. I meant to say that Ward is already BETTER than Calzaghe. But Calzaghe is still GREATER. Ward will end UP BETTER and GREATER when its all SAID and DONE.

Posted September 14, 2012 4:14 pm 


Boxtradamus

Calzaghe never stopped a Top 10 P4P Fighter in his LIFE. But Ward just did. Ward is already GREATER than Calzaghe.

Posted September 14, 2012 4:13 pm 


TARK

Hunter is out-of-touch with the experience of challengers at 168, saying, “By Ward going into the elite level with the minimum amount of fights, and I think you can check the record books. No one has fought for the super middleweight title with that amount of fights”. Not true–the challenger Kessler fought before Ward, Perdomo, had fewer fights than Ward.. Calzaghe also fought challengers with fewer fights: Sobot, and Mkrtchyan.

Posted September 14, 2012 3:52 pm 


mule

I do agree with Popkins on his calzage stance. Calzaghe is well deserved for his due.

Posted September 14, 2012 3:48 pm 


Popkins

And even the Kessler win should be taken with a pinch of salt….dodgy ref allows multiple headbutts….Ward gets to fight the champ in his own Californian back garden…and Mikkel had already lost his 0 and his killer instinct way back in 07.

Posted September 14, 2012 3:37 pm 


Popkins

IMO Eubank, Woodhall, Reid and Hopkins would all have given Ward a tougher fight than Dawson did. All four were world class fighters and had the size to match Ward physically too. ………….Abraham is a middleweight. Bika had already been duffed up by Bute and Joe. Green is barely top 15 material. SOG’s wins over Dawson, Kessler and Froch are good, but they don’t make his resume greater than the Welshman.

Posted September 14, 2012 3:33 pm 


Kato3388

HOF doesn’t mean much to me.. I mean Kostya Tzu made it! Big whoop. And a majority of JC’s wins came as UD home-cooking decisions… Eubank, Woodhall, Reid, Brewer.. Really??? Wow… But again. that’s your opinion. Ring belts, I will acknowledge… Still to me IMHO… big Fish small Pond syndrome.

Posted September 14, 2012 3:31 pm 


Popkins

@Kato3388…Eubank, Woodhall, Reid, Brewer, Sheika, Mitchell, Bika, Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins, RJJ….all world class, genuine 168-175 pound fighters. Just to go 11-0 against that lot alone is hugely impressive…but add another 35 wins to that list (regardless of who it’s against – after all, Lewis lost to McCall, Tyson to Douglas, Khan to Bradley etc etc). Ring Belts in two divisions. Unification of all the proper alphabet belts at 168. The light heavy title was won after climbing off the canvas in America against FHOF Bhop. 46 fights – no losses. 46 and 0. Calzaghe is the greatest super middleweight ever, and a lock for the Hall of Fame. Get over it already!

Posted September 14, 2012 3:24 pm 


Popkins

@mule…I think somewhere along the way you got the wrong end of the stick mate. Kato is Kato and I’m Popkins.lol. Smoke Ward out of California, and drag him to Cardiff….Calzaghe in his prime would have done a number on him. Joe was an expert at whupping hyped up Americans….Sheika, Mitchell, Brewer, Lacy, Hopkins, RJJ. Calzaghe would have edged it in America (with headbutts allowed), but In a good, clean fight in Wales; he would have been a clear, decisive winner.

Posted September 14, 2012 3:10 pm 


Kato3388

And i agree with you whole-heartedly… B-hop is a ‘dirty’ fighter. Ward isn’t. But one thing you should realize… And I am guilty as anyone… there is a referee in the ring, who is there to do a job. If he refuses to or doesn’t uphold the rules… that’s the ref’s fault. Not mine. My job is to get in there and win the fight. I will not blatantly foul, unless i’ve been fouled first. At that point, it’s the ref’s job to admonish me or admonish the other fighter. My livelihood is on the line and I will take matters into my own hands if the ref isn’t doing his duty. Take that how you will, and maybe I’m a dirty fighter, but i don’t consider it that at all. JC was a BIG FISH in a small pond. Nothing special… God, I can’t believe I’m actually gonna do this but, a quote from Roger Mayweather, “Undefeated don’t mean $#YTE, just means you haven’t fought everyone yet.” And that also applies to Mayweather too. I went over JC’s resume on boxrec… and honestly.. a faded RJJ.. a BS win against B-HOP and a premature ejac… I mean stoppage on Manfredo. Kessler another BIG FISH in a small pond… eh! Saiko Bika… tough as nails but hasn’t done anything either…

Posted September 14, 2012 2:57 pm 


Popkins

WTF?!

Posted September 14, 2012 2:57 pm 


Kato3388

@MULE – that’s your opinion. When I first strated watching Ward back in the Olympics his style was Mayweatheresque… his style was still like that up until he fought Abraham. His style has since evolved, just like any good fighters. Where I state facts and opinion, you rather call me names, and claim i don’t know waht I’m talking about. Who’s the rookie here? And NO I am not POPKINS… I only go by kato3388 And u should search me on the site and read some of my articles… Who’s the rookie here MULE????

Posted September 14, 2012 2:48 pm 


Kato3388

Of Joe C’s 46 fights, only 2 were in America… and 2 in Europe. the rest were all in the UK. Big fish, small pond syndrome. So we’re not sure what JC would’ve done if he really ventured outside his small pond. Many international fighters are GREAT in their home country.. (big fish, small pond). however, when they finally get to America to take on the best or better fighters, (cause I’m not saying only American fighters are good fighters, but everyone knows, if you wanna make it big you must get to America. That is still true in Boxing and Hollywood) they fail or look lackluster. There are only a few names that stand out, Lennox Lewis & Carl Froch. Prince Naseem, Khan, Hatton, they’re great fighters in the UK, but when they get over here to the US, they’re exposed as flash in the pans…

Posted September 14, 2012 2:41 pm 


mule

Kato3388 is Popkins. Ward is not Mayweather WERE DO YOU SEE THE SIMILARITIES ??? Watch Bernard Hopkins then watch Ward on youtube Ward is a copycat of Hopkins. Not Mayweather. There’s so many amatuers on ESB these days. Come guys get with the program !!!!! How can you say Calaghze would get chewed up by Ward ??? Just like Bernard “dirty” Hopkins and Jeff Lacy was going to chew up Calzaghe. Get a life Kato3388

Posted September 14, 2012 2:35 pm 


Vince

Without religion none of us would be here? You’re right, that is funny, and utterly ridiculous.

Posted September 14, 2012 2:29 pm 


Kato3388

and another thing… People think Ward and Hunter are ‘know-at-all’s’ who are narcisistic. Come on… Boxing is a brutal sport, and self-confidence in and out of the ring is one of the motivating factors for any fighter. “I am better than you. I am better than anyone I get into the ring with.” These are mantra’s every fighter says to themselves at one point or another even if there is a sliver of doubt, you ‘Must’ still maintain your superiority. if not, why bother even getting into the ring. A lot of posters here who feel differently about this have never even been in a fight and have no idea what it takes to get into the ring against someone else who is ready and willing to take your block off. Boxing is mental as much as it is physical. So get off your high horses and stop the madness. JC IS NOT better than WARD. My only problem with Ward is that he’s a home-town boy who refuses to fight anywhere except Oakland. JC had the same problem. He barely left the UK for his fights and home-cooking was rampant.

Posted September 14, 2012 2:29 pm 


Kato3388

Let me add my 2 cents… I’ve said this before Joe Calzahgne made a breakout in the US… He didn’t do anything in his career of note. Honestly… he took on b-hop, and fought mostly his entire career in the UK. I have never been a Ward fan, his Mayweathersque style leaves me unconvinced. That was until he took on everyone in the Super Six. He showed me he is no mere Mayweather copy-cat. Ward takes calculated risks in the ring and doesn’t mind going toe-to-toe when he has to. ward would chew up JC easy. Now where this conversation needs to go is whether JC is better than Carl Froch. My easy answer is a resounding ‘NO’. Carl Froch has shown me that he is willing to take on anyone and everyone. And has some really great names on his resume. JC was a propped up, smoke screen. he was OK.. nothing special… and as soon as his division started to get interesting he decided to retire…

Posted September 14, 2012 2:21 pm 


matt

well said

Posted September 14, 2012 1:33 pm 


matt

lol this guy has a serious chip on his shoulder!

Posted September 14, 2012 1:31 pm 


Joshua

Well said. There is nothing more anoying than someone who talks about someone elses beliefs.

It’s funny but without religion none of us would be here.

Posted September 14, 2012 12:24 pm 


Joshua

Great fight. I say Ward in a THRILLER, that would be harder than anybody expects! I would pay to see that fight.

Who do you think would win

Posted September 14, 2012 12:21 pm 


Mule

As Jim Grays famous words to Andre Ward ” Are you a dirty fighter ” ? classic !

Posted September 14, 2012 10:56 am 


Kjjmak

Ward is a Bernard Hopkins clone just like broner is to Mayweather

Posted September 14, 2012 10:54 am 


a1andonly

At least Ward know’s who HE is and who to give thanks to. Maybe you should find God….

Posted September 14, 2012 10:45 am 


a1andonly

How about a Ward vs. Martinez fight?

Posted September 14, 2012 10:43 am 


Kjjmak

I remember Holyfield did the god thing when he had a zero loss record. >>> Then when he got beat the god talk went out the window. What happened Holyfield did god abandon you.???? As if god helped you win. AS IF THATS ALL GOD HAS TO DO IS MAKE SURE THE LIKES OF HOLYFIELD / Andre WARD and the like make sure you win. Andre is another fool that is gonna get beat.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:37 am 


Popkins

There was no point in Calzaghe fighting Froch or Dawson in 07/08. Back then Froch’s best win was against Brian Magee, or possibly the shell of Robin Reid. And Chad was hardly Mr Excitement…his flash in the pan victory over Adamek was good, but then he was back to his normal uninspiring self in struggling to outpoint an old Glen Johnson, who even in his prime was never P4P top 5 material anyway.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:24 am 


Jules Barkley

Bayamon were you getting your info from ? ? Calzaghe was already retired. What are you talking about ducking. Quit making up crap dude !
I did see that Espn interview yesterday of Ward. The guys a know it all. Humbled ? ya right ! I dont like the guy already. I dont like people that think themselves that there better than others.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:19 am 


Steven

I agree Tomboxing. For some reason just because a fighter is undefeated and is on top, people have this notion that there perfect in some way or form. Virgil comes across as this so does Ward. I this see at times. Last nite on ESPN boxing Teddy Atlas said how “good” of a person Ward is. I am sure Ward is good but Ward like Virgil his trainer do have a very narcisstic attitude and it rubs people off the wrong way. There is someone out there that will beat Ward and say “Wheres your god now” That will humble Ward back down to earth. Ward is no son of god.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:15 am 


sigh

You are claiming that Dawson (who lost to Pascal ffs) is some monster whilst denigrating what Hopkins did after his loss to Calzaghe in order to validate your highly debatable opinion concerning Ward/Calzaghe.
Whilst we are about it, Joe was smart because he made small adjustments that allowed him to remain undefeated. Oh, and Bika gave Ward a rough time of it to, its what he does.
Ward/Calzaghe is a toss up in my opinion.

Posted September 14, 2012 10:12 am 


Tom boxing

Ringside sounds like your the one mouthing off. We dont mind Virgil saying what he believes what we do mind is how he acts in public. He’s not the nicest person he’s the opposite the guy is a jerk you dont believe me then meet him yourself ! Bayman that is alot of untruths your talking about. Calzaghe was already retired before Froch and Dawson. What the heck are you talking about ??? Get the facts right.

Posted September 14, 2012 9:55 am 


Bayamon, Puerto Rico

Calzaghe had a chance and an opportunity to fight Dawson and Froch and it`s no accident that the way things worked out he did`nt.It was intentional and by design that he ducked some of the best boxers in his era like Dawson and Froch in order to protect his unbeaten record and that hurts his legacy because now people want to compare him with Ward and say what if they had fought and there is no comparision because unlike Calzaghe,Ward is fighting the best fighters of his era and Calzaghe didn`tl

Posted September 14, 2012 9:30 am 


Tom boxing

drx – Virgil is a narcissistic man ans as corn mentioned the dude is a A hole he is very sarcastic. He has this mentality that i’m ( better than you ) I also heard Ward is like that. Just watch the Froch Ward interview. I’m not a fan of these 2 people.

Posted September 14, 2012 9:24 am 


Cornbow

Virgil Hunter first off I’ve seen him in public the guy is a stuck up jerk ! Second to say Joe Calzaghe fan—in my opinion we would have chewed him up! is like WOW that comment from Virgil he really doesnt know that and all he’s trying to do is set Calzaghe for a comeback which he isn’t going to do. The author asks Virgil and here we go again about the “god” thing of Andre Ward. Andre will be beat. Counting wins against a one dimesional Abraham, b rated Froch, heat butt win over Kessler and a weight drained Dawson Andre’s day is coming. This was Andre’s competion lets not call him great.

Posted September 14, 2012 9:20 am 


Popkins

Would Calzaghe have beaten Dawson at 168? Absolutely. At 175? Yep. Who else has Ward fought? Kessler was faded goods. Froch had already lost to the faded Kessler. Let’s be honest, Joe would have wiped the floor with all of Ward’s opponents. Eubank and Hopkins, yes, even the versions that Calzaghe fought would have given SOG all he could handle, possibly beating him. In fact, if he fought them outside of California I would have made him the underdog.

Posted September 14, 2012 9:07 am 


drx

hunter seems like a very narcissistic man

Posted September 14, 2012 8:56 am 


Jake Lead Rights

I agree with Ringside. What you want to use Roy Jones Jr. to solidify Joes legacy. Bwah ha, ha, ha! If B-Hop would’ve put some of his youthful pressure he would’ve won. So come on he beat an old B-Hop (a very gamey B-Hop but an old B-Hop nonetheless) Manfredo, Bika, these are guys that couldnt even win on the Contender show. Ward buzz sawed through the Super Six. The Super Six Bro! These were all champions and elite contenders. Ward made dawson look like he was standing in quick sand. Sorry Joe but your resume doesn’t come close to Wards. Good try.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:37 am 


Vince

Apart from the fact that it’s not a fact.

Posted September 14, 2012 8:23 am 


Popkins

Now maybe Geoffrey Ciani should do an interview with Calzaghe’s trainer, Enzo, and ask him for his (I’m sure) equally impartial opinion on a potential Ward/Calzaghe fight.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:55 am 


Pans

Personally i don’t see the point of Ward fighting the Rubios or Manfredos of the world. I would like to see him move up to 175, he can clean up there.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:48 am 


john

Dawson IS NOT TOP competition !! NOT-NOT !!!! Don’t kid yourself. How about calling on Anthony Dirrel ? No mention of him ? Basically everyone saying there is really no one left to fight at 168. HE;’S AVAILABLE ? Whats up with that ?

Posted September 14, 2012 7:38 am 


john

Ward v.s. Anthony Dirrel !!! Now there’s a contest !!

Posted September 14, 2012 7:34 am 


SREDMOND

How was Joe so smart? he took fire from 100 year old Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins? Kessler jarred him with a few blazing uppercuts and Bika forced him into a tough fight….I respect Joe but those arm punches he was launching against a lessor boxer like Manfredo would have gotten him tagged against Ward who is a VERY tough, yet technical fighter….I saw nothing about Calzaghe that made me think his craft is superior to Wards especially when you see Andre decimating top competition in their primes….

Posted September 14, 2012 7:32 am 


SREDMOND

Joe Calzaghe NEVER beat up Bernard Hopkins it was an ugly Hops type fight which Joe won via S/D…. Some don’t even give Joe the nod (I think he (Joe) won)….. That said against a 43 year old fighter when you are supposed to be a 36 year old HOF fighter yourself it was not a very impressive performance considering Hopkins put you on the canvas…. Ward beating Dawson in this manner is a shocking and powerful statement and it likely heralds a new era in boxing…. Marquez, Martinez, Mayweather, Pac and the Klits are all getting on in years….Andre Ward is what boxing needs a YOUNG fresh talent who is willing to fight anyone…

Posted September 14, 2012 7:30 am 


john

Calzaghe was too smart, big, fast, and tricky for Ward to figure out. Even a smart guy like Ward wouldn’t be able to figure out a way around Joe. We can speculate all we want but all are just going to be opinions based on who we like. I love Ward but facts are facts, he probably could not beat Joe.

Posted September 14, 2012 7:29 am 


SREDMOND

Virgil Hunter is supposed to believe in his fighter and the ??????????????? about how talented Calzaghe really was began before Andre Ward stepped on the scene in a big way…. Ward is simply dominating better fighters than Calzaghe ever did, Joe gets credit for beating Kessler first but Ward knocked him out when he was a green fighter and had no troubles… When Mikkel fought Joe it was a solid yet competitive win for Calz, Ward took him out of his game and took him apart…Joe never stopped a fighter like Chad Dawson who had been tested by the toughest of the old guard, a guy like Adamek and was coming on against Pascal…. Andre Ward made Dawson quit and NO ONE saw that coming it was a brilliant, tough display of boxing skill and will…. Calzaghe’s best win was Kessler and to be honest Ward made wins over Kessler and Dawson look embarassingly easy….. No reason to think Ward could not deal with Calzaghe

Posted September 14, 2012 7:25 am 


john

Calzaghe beating up Bernard was pretty impressive – BEFORE Bernard went on to beat Kelly Pavlick & Jean Pascal (twice) Pascal who once beat Dawson………so would you say Bernard was washed -up at that time. Do you think Ward would have beaten him ?

Posted September 14, 2012 7:24 am 


SREDMOND

Wards performances cannot be accounted for by where he fights the guy is destroying top fighters and making it look easy.. Great Champions fight the best and that is what Ward has been doing before he even has 30 fights…. The man has cleaned out the SMW division and just stopped the best LHW around over the past 5 years….Andre Ward is getting nitpicked by novice fans and guys that are bitter he has made a mockery of Super 6 and chewed Chad Dawson up like a piece of gum….Whats more impressive Joe Calzaghe travelling to beat up a 41 year old, completely washed up Roy Jones? Or Andre Ward destroying Chad Dawson in his prime for the first time in his career? Same Dawson that was in with all the old guard and a tough fighter like Tomas Adamek….. Its Wards time and the naysayers might want to bow down and accept reality…

Posted September 14, 2012 7:19 am 


Mix

Style’s make fights I guess, so maybe. Specially in the UK.

Posted September 14, 2012 6:33 am 


matt

DeGale actually has the style to give Ward problems (and i am no DeGale fan) Could be an interesting one down the line.

Posted September 14, 2012 6:21 am 


matt

As always these ‘what if arguments’ are pointless, we will never know. However people can of course throw in their 2 sense and i personally believe Joe would out work Ward to a clear points win. Too much volume and skill combined with heart and an iron chin. Yes Ward is a great fighter but i don’t see him being able to nullify Joe (Ward’s main skill).

Posted September 14, 2012 6:20 am 


Mix

Agreed: Great champions have always been prepared to travel. Ward could do a sort of bum of the month with maybe Stephenson in Canada, Oosthuizen in South Africa, Les Sherrington in Australia or James DeGale in the UK.

Posted September 14, 2012 6:17 am 


The Assassin

It dosen’t matter where he is fighting at anymore, because he is dominating the top compitition. In his last 6 pro fights he has only lost about 4rds.

Posted September 14, 2012 6:08 am 


Haimat

If Ward would ever take a fight away from home and prove his worth I’d listen to his bragging trainer with a bit more interest.

Posted September 14, 2012 6:03 am 


Vince

‘I think (know) Joe would have been stopped.’ Know you don’t. Embellished chins? Overstated engines? The Reid fight as a judgement call? Looked terrible athletically versus an ancient BHOP? Ward would hunt Calzaghe all over the ring? I don’t have a preference about who wins? Etc. Five paragraphs of garbage. You should have stopped after the first three nuthugging words.

Posted September 14, 2012 5:58 am 



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