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Yellow bellied sapsucker

Bak bak bak but any cocledoo if he got a blueprint to loose

Posted September 3, 2013 10:40 am 


JWales

You a bird of a feather ducking like Mayweather gettin loud without leather cause Winky, Williams, & Maravilla might of been better.

Posted September 3, 2013 10:16 am 


Supreme Court

Birds of a feather flock together….
Or:
Birds of different feather do not flock together…
And that’s why I’ve been ignoring you…
You know whom I’m talking about…

( On repond aux imbeciles par un silence…)

Posted September 3, 2013 8:21 am 


JWales

Right these Melaninites are more uptight and fanaticised than a bunch of shiites calling a hero hype after he whooped the likes of Winky Wright even while he lies paralyzed

Posted September 3, 2013 2:23 am 


Hidalgo

“I make a living assessing people” Oh. I thought you were a biowhattheheckus.

Posted September 3, 2013 12:07 am 


Memoirs of a TARK

Vietnam Jan 15th 1967 Dak To

Intel put us onto a suspected enemy position today. We tabbed through the ju.ng.le unnoticed for two cli.cks to take up position.
Lt Jackson ordered me to flank around and take up position in the ju.ngle on the far side of the enemy encampment.

I informed Lt Jackson I could not do this since there was no ju.ngle, only dense rainforest foliage.

Lt Jackson then ordered me to advance to the dense rainforest foliage.

I informed him that what he was now pointing at was a small shrublike bu$h and not dense rainforest foliage.

Lt Jackson zinged me with a masterful jab.

Lt Jackson has a great stance.

Posted September 2, 2013 8:58 pm 


PEEJ

Ok well then we some what agree.

Posted September 2, 2013 7:53 pm 


Red Ryan

Herron has the beat…………..

Posted September 2, 2013 6:10 pm 


Joseph Herron

Supreme Court,

You’re an f***ing idiot!!

I’ll tell you what, brother…look for the fraud on television while I cover the fights tonight from ringside…how’s that.

You’re as sharp as a marble, brother!!

Posted September 2, 2013 5:54 pm 


Joseph Herron

FA, Peej, and Supreme,

Yup…you got it…this whole “ducking” concept is crap and is really a concept driven by the fans…because everyone in the industry realizes that boxing is a business. And very few match-ups are made unless they make sense monetarily…or have some kind of eventual pay-off like an investment.

That’s right…Sergio and DiBella calling out Floyd and Pac…they knew it was a long shot because of the obvious advantages Sergio has in those two match-ups.

But they figured if they could some how attach their names to Pac and Floyd in the media then why not?

Guys, in the business of boxing, perception is reality.

Posted September 2, 2013 5:51 pm 


Joseph Herron

TARK…very good, brother

Posted September 2, 2013 5:43 pm 


TARK

Herron.., “Anything can happen in the ring. Just ask Abner Mares”

Anything CANNOT happen in the ring… Gonzalez was very familiar with Mares, and knew he could be tagged with big left hooks. But why would Miguel Cotto fight SergioMartinez??? You don’t go from getting your butt kicked twice in a row at 154—to fighting the Middleweight Champion after a tune-up fight. This is cherry-picking in the extreme by the Martinez team.

Sometimes it seems like anything CAN happen in a boxing ring—except a fight between Sergio Martinez and Grennady Golovkin.

Posted September 2, 2013 4:55 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Sergio is a class act, great athlete and all around good guy…

Posted September 2, 2013 3:34 pm 


Supreme Court

Joseph Herro wrote:

“Other fighters knew this and merely tried to inflate their stock by calling out Sergio with no hope of really getting a fight made.

They were just calling out sergio to be in the media. ”

How can you tell?

You are a FRAUD!

Did you not dispute in the first place that they called him out?

( Un faux et pretendu journaliste que ce Mr Heron!)

Posted September 2, 2013 3:28 pm 


PEEJ

Williams was never a top dog at 160

Posted September 2, 2013 3:25 pm 


Supreme Court

Fight Aficionado:
Would you please have the courage to count the number of “sitting” welter weight champions Floyd have defeated in the WW division?
Then would you please compare that with the corresponding number regarding Martinez?

9 Sergio Falkland Martinez est un lache!!!!!)

Posted September 2, 2013 3:25 pm 


PEEJ

So then what you are saying is that Sergio was just calling out Pac and Floyd just to keep his name in the media which really didn’t work out to well for him. Ok. And Pirog and Quillen would of helped Martinez. First off it would of gotten him a fight with decent fighters who have been on American TV and could of brought in more fan appeal. Instead he fought over sea fighters that nobody had heard of at the time.

Posted September 2, 2013 3:24 pm 


Fight Aficionado

While I’ve been calling Martinez out for years for ducking Pirog and GGG – in fact DiBella stated recently that GGG is not a style he wants Martinez in with – his wins over Williams and Pavlik came against the top dogs at 160. It’s only since he accomplished his signature wins that he when he went into cherrypick mode. That approach mirrors what Floyd did, going from beating the best to avoiding the best.

Posted September 2, 2013 2:38 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“The man is one of the biggest coward in the middle weight history. He first turned down Pirog stating Pirog had no following…He turned down Quillin; then GGG.” – Supreme Court, while I agree he ducked Pirog and is now ducking GGG, this coward thing is overstated. If you think that about Martinez then you must also view Mayweather as the biggest coward in welterweight history. Can’t have it both ways.

Posted September 2, 2013 2:35 pm 


Joseph Herron

That’s right, Peej

For what Sergio, DiBella, and HBO were trying to accomplish at the time, they had no desire to entertain any offers from anyone who couldn’t enhance Sergio’s career to the next level.

Other fighters knew this and merely tried to inflate their stock by calling out Sergio with no hope of really getting a fight made.

They were just calling out sergio to be in the media. Promoters and fighters do this all of the time…it means nothing.

Posted September 2, 2013 2:34 pm 


PEEJ

Well I have read interviews on boxingtalk where Pirog and Quillen both called out Martinez and wanted to fight. I have also read on boxingtalk the interview with Dibella and Martinez where they said they don’t bring any money to the table. I have also watched an interview of them saying the same thing. That is directly from there mouths. Martinez and his team claimed that those fighters brought no money to the table. And like I have said neither does Martinez. He does not sell well nor does he pull in ratings. His only successful fight was in his home country whom per Martinez just recently started supporting him.

Posted September 2, 2013 2:19 pm 


raygordonreid

SQUARE CIRCLE BANNED GOOD

Posted September 2, 2013 2:18 pm 


Joseph Herron

Supreme Court,

We’re not equals, brother. Don’t try to debate with me about this.

One of the reasons why I am not getting into this with you any further is because I frankly wouldn’t know where to begin.

The fact that you’re citing third party links to which you have no idea to be truthful is laughable.

i don’t have to cite any third party source…do you know why?

Because I get all of my info from fighters, promoters, managers, and trainers…do you know why?

Because I’m a journalist and a boxing insider.

And you’re trying to stand me up with links from a third party source?

like I said, it’s laughable and I’ve spent way too much time on this.

Promoters, press agents, fighters, and managers will try to bait reporters who are merely trying to make news into printing ridiculous statements to promote their fighters.

Like I said…you don’t understand the business end of boxing, brother.

Have a nice day.

Posted September 2, 2013 2:06 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Sure Martinez would like to fight Cotto. It’s an easy win against a name opponent. The hypocrisy of Martinez and DiBella is disgusting. They’re ducking the best fighters at 160 and playing keep away with the title — exactly what DiBella screamed about when Martinez was the little known contender seeking a title shot.

Posted September 2, 2013 1:57 pm 


Supreme Court

Joseph herron:

I note:
- You did not explain what Pirog did not “bring to the equation”
- you lack the integrity to admit that fellow MW champions indeed called Sergio Falkland Martinez out in 2001.

When you yap like : “You’re obviously not one of them, brother…lol”

what difference does that make to the point previously made? You sound like a non-graduate… Or a C-student….

You wrote: “It’s pretty obvious that you fall for anything that is slanderous or incriminating against anyone who calls out Floyd…like Martinez.”

Did you think you’d have a cake walk here on ESB? You thought that you’d opportunistically tap on the anti-Floyd to build-up your base? Do it with integrity, not lies, manipulation and condescension.

Herron, the Jury is out…. Careful…

( Monsieur le Heron, faites gaffe, vous risquez de vous mordre les droits)

Posted September 2, 2013 1:19 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

OUCH!

Posted September 2, 2013 12:30 pm 


Joseph Herron

Supreme Court: “You better be careful here on ESB…. There are highly educated contributors here…. This is not Boxing news 24….”

You’re obviously not one of them, brother…lol

Posted September 2, 2013 11:15 am 


Joseph Herron

Supreme Court,

You don’t know the difference, dude…lol

This is a casual comment board…if I weren’t publishing an article I would conduct my usual due dilligence. I always do…because I’m a real journalist.

I don’t just report from someone else’s printed work like a lot of reporters do in this industry.

But, I will use my buster methods on this casual comment board with you at this time.

You are so far up Mayweather’s rear end, that you attack anyone who calls out your boy.

It’s pretty obvious that you fall for anything that is slanderous or incriminating against anyone who calls out Floyd…like Martinez.

How long have you been using those same cheezy links that no one bothers to click on? LOL!!

How can you even compare anything I post on this forum to a journalistic effort? Are you really that obtuse?

Do you know what obtuse means?

Posted September 2, 2013 11:12 am 


rjhill

i agree with Ivan the size is naturaly in favor of Martinez.He needs to man up and fight a top contending middleweight.

Posted September 2, 2013 10:49 am 


Supreme Court

Squared circle:
You are not banned…. Probably screened…
There is a filter that would stop your post depending on what inside your post….

Posted September 2, 2013 10:12 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

mayweather 86: Thanks, bro. I was surprised that someone didn’t say the same exact thing. It seem like I’m being partially banned right now, so only some of my comments are being posted.

Posted September 2, 2013 6:39 am 


urone2

Joseph Herron

Doesn’t Mayweather just use GBP to fill the fight card since he usually havd is own network deals in place. Mayweather from what I understand put up all of the sight fees but most times need the help the fill the undercard of his fights so he works with GBP to fill the fight card with good and often great fights.

Posted September 2, 2013 4:15 am 


hookoffthejab

yo

Posted September 2, 2013 3:36 am 


Joseph Herron

Without the benefit of television or casino money, it is extremely difficult for a promoter to make serious money in boxing…if they want to be able to afford world class talent.

i know a lot of promoters who do quite well by staging club shows every month, using marginal talent, without the benefit of having television or casino site fees.

Former Heavyweight Champion Lou Savarese has a very successful promotional group in the Houston, Texas, area and turns a profit with just about every card he stages…and does it without the benefit of television or casino money.

But Big Lou worked really hard to develop a solid and loyal fan base in the Houston, Texas area with the addition of local business sponsorship. He puts up consistent numbers regardless of what kind of talent he has on the card.

But promoters like Lou are very rare in boxing. With most promoters in boxing, it’s a crap shoot. You win some and you lose some. Hopefully the losses at the end of the year don’t outweight your earnings.

It’s become a very hard business to consistently make money in. I have a lot of respect for anyone who attempts to become a promoter in the fight game. Takes a lot of brass!!

Posted September 2, 2013 3:27 am 


Joseph Herron

Turbo Hamster,

You’re asking a general business question that all depends on how the fighter sets up his own business. Is it a sole prop, a corporation, an S Corp, or an LLC?

That’s what dictates how any business owner gets paid or pays himself. It’s no different for prizefighters.

The ultimate reason why a fighter would set up his own promotional company is to obviously increase his avenues and options of money intake.

Have you ever wondered why a fighter like Canelo or Mayweather works with Golden Boy Promotions, even though they own their own promotional entity?

Because Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer is the man who makes the agreements with the networks and gets the dates on Showtime, Fox Sports One, Televisa, etc…that’s where the real money in boxing is. GBP has the amount of talent, where they can make long term contracts with the networks.

Canelo and Mayweather can’t.

But what they can do, because they fight under their own promotional banner, is make additional sponsorship and television deals separately without GBP’s or Top Rank’s approval for the same fight card.

For example, Canelo has his own promotional deal with sponsorship and television in Mexico that has nothing to do with Golden Boy Promotions. They couldn’t do that if they didn’t have their own promotional entity established.

Or, they can also just hire Golden Boy Promotions by paying a site fee, just like any Casino would, and stage the event at any venue of their choosing.

A lot of smaller promoters do this in a collaborative effort with Golden Boy Promotions and Top Rank Promotions…they merely pay these promoters to use their talent, while attempting to make money from ticket sales and concessions.

Posted September 2, 2013 3:15 am 


Turb0-Hamster

I`ve got a business side of boxing question.

When a fighter sets up their own promotional company – eg Hayemaker promotions, Mayweather etc and then they fight under that banner, do they actually pay themselves more than they`d get when promoted by someone else as an employee, or do they let that money sit in the company where it might attract a lower rate of tax, and then draw money from the company later in a variety of sneaky ways?

Posted September 2, 2013 1:26 am 


Joseph Herron

Supreme Court…you suffer from selective reading comprehension

This is what I posted earlier:

“Peej,

Lou DiBella and Sergio Martinez both told me to my face about their so called offer in 2011. They were trying to make a big fight with either Chavez or Floyd, and weren’t getting anywhere.

At one time…if you remember correctly, Sergio was a very avoided fighter. When you mention all of the guys he supposedly avoided, it’s not like anyone who brought money to the table were willing to step in the ring Sergio.

Yes, the Andy Lee’s and the Dmitriy Pirog’s were willing to fight him…but they brought nothing to the equation.

This creates a real problem when you’re not a money maker or big ticket seller yourself…Sergio was always looking for that big marquee match-up to elevate his career to the next level.

I think you are suffering from memory loss here, Peej…with all due respect of course.”

Fighting a very low profile fighter whom only die-hard boxing fans had ever heard of wouldn’t have done anything to give Sergio’s career the push he was looking for.

Supreme Court, because you’ve challenged my ability as a journalist and a boxing insider, I’m going to call you out, brother.

I don’t expect you to understand anything that I’ve just posted because you, like a lot of great, die-hard fans of boxing as well as most boxing scribes, don’t understand the business side of boxing.

That’s no big deal…but don’t be citing a bunch of quotes from other writers who are just reporting and absolutely provide no insight into why these guys are saying what they’re saying.

One of the things that makes me a true journalist and not just a reporter, is that I actually am one of the few writers in this industry who has the ability to provide insight into the fight game and truly understand the business end of boxing.

But, once again, I don’t expect you understand any of this.

If you have any questions about the business end of boxing, you can always ask. i would be willing to answer any questions you or anyone might have about the subject because very few people understand how the sport is truly being run.

Posted September 2, 2013 12:41 am 


Memoirs of a TARK

Vietnam Jan 12th 1967 Dak To

I hate this jungle.
Charlies had my platoon pinned down with machine gun fire for 2 days, and there is no sign of air support coming.
We take 4 hour watches, but can`t sleep even when off rotation.

My mind keeps wandering to a small village we passed through last week full of bodies, there was a young boy standing next to the bodies of his family hitting a wall in rage. He had a really bad stance. I don`t speak Charlie, I could not help him with his stance.

Gunnary Sargent Billy Holmes is starting to break. The constant machine gun fire means he cannot hear me when I try to instruct him on a masterful jab. Being unable to absorb my wisdom due to the noise is crushing him spiritually.

I can`t wait for our air support to turn up and zing these VC.

Posted September 2, 2013 12:37 am 


Joseph Herron

Supreme Court,

Watch what you say, my friend.

Everything I post on this forum is not a published article…just my personal thoughts and casual talk. If you guys are going to try and treat what I post on this comment board as formal publication, then I won’t post on this any longer.

Brother, I don’t have to try a tout myself as a boxing insider, because I am one…that’s just the way it is.

If you would rather just read my thoughts and words in an article…I can do that.

Posted September 2, 2013 12:08 am 


lman

If Mundine can afford to offer that kind of money to Mosely then he must be taking a huge hit out of his purse because I cant see this fight doing decent numbers in Aus. Mundine use to be able to claim to be Australias best between 160-168 and people know that is his best weight, but he got spanked by Geale in his last fight so there is no longer any interest to see who is the best domestically, they also know Mosely fought as a WW and is 40, I think this fight falls through and rightly so the Aus boxings fans have had enough of this greediness.

Posted September 1, 2013 11:34 pm 


mayweather 86

I understand that completely, and us that is quite ridiculous to say the least. However Mosley is marketable to then in the sense of fighting off of his name. Much the same as Roy Jones had done recently. It’s a sham indeed

Posted September 1, 2013 9:58 pm 


Maracho

I mean I cant believe Golden Boy only offered Murrey $250,00 to fight Quillin in England when welterweight Mosley is getting 1.5 million to fight middleweight Mundine in Australia

That would of been even huger over there, wouldnt it of?

Posted September 1, 2013 9:49 pm 


Maracho

I cant believe Gloden Boy only offered Murrey $250,000 when passed his prime welterweight Mosley is getting 1.5 million to fight middleweight Mundine. Yeah I know different promoters but wouldnt Quillin or Murrey vs Mundine make more financial sense?

Posted September 1, 2013 9:45 pm 


Maracho

,,and the main reason i quoted it was in response to Supreme court’s use of an earlier boxingnews24 article stating how it was Mayweather that called out Martinez at 150.

Anyway, like Winky, Martinez called his bluff

Posted September 1, 2013 8:36 pm 


Maracho

In that case I’d better quote the article’s Mayweather hypocrisy word for word.

“Martinez has said he’d even be willing to fight Mayweather at a catch-weight in order to make the fight happen. The problem is the catch-weight still wouldn’t change anything because Martinez walks around at 170, so he’d cut down to 150 lbs to make weight for Mayweather, and then likely rehydrate up to 170 lbs.”

the thing is, Mayweather is now fighting a less prestigious fighter in Canelo at 152 and who will rehydrate even heavier .

Posted September 1, 2013 8:28 pm 


mayweather 86

Squared circle finally shows up to deliver the hard right hand. Thank u sir

Posted September 1, 2013 7:45 pm 


mayweather 86

Maracho quoting boxing news 24 is like quoting Sarah Palin

Posted September 1, 2013 7:43 pm 


PEEJ

Herron being in the P4P ratings doesn’t make you a ticket seller. Nonito was rated on there and he doesn’t sell very well, Ward is number 2 and he can only sell in Cali. P4P has to do with your skills, not your ticket selling abilities. The Russian dude Purog and Quillen both called out Martinez in 2011 and the responded with who are they, they don’t bring money to the table. Well neither does Martinez

Posted September 1, 2013 7:43 pm 


Maracho

Oh you mean when Quillin called out Martinez right after his then toughest opponent was Jessy Brinkley? Give me a break man

Posted September 1, 2013 7:39 pm 


Maracho

…and the newest articel on mayweather martinez shows mayweather “closing the door” when the big dog tried to move in

boxingnews24.com/2013/04/mayweather-closes-door-on-sergio-martinez-fight/

Funny how Mayweather fights old battle beaten dudes at 154 but cries 150 for 154 guys in their prime

Posted September 1, 2013 7:27 pm 


Supreme Court

Joseph Herron:

In 2011 Martinez said he would fight Floyd at 150 lbs.
In 2012 Floyd told Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports that he would fight Martinez at 150 lbs…
below the link:
.boxingnews24.com/2012/01/mayweather-ill-fight-sergio-martinez-next-if-he-can-make-150lbs/

Do you have a link on Martinez agreeing to take the fight at 150 , the weight he had (Martinez) clamoured?

Posted September 1, 2013 7:12 pm 


Supreme Court

Joseph Herron:
You are fighting hard here to be perceived as a boxing “insider”… and I have called you out in the past for your tendency to manipulate news…
You wrote:
“Team Martinez made an offer to Mayweather in 2011 and 2012 in which they would be willing to go down to as low as 150 to fight Mayweather while giving him 80% of the purse.”

As a self-proclaimed Journalist, are you not aware of Floyd Mayweather calling out Sergio Martinez?
Even here on ESB there was an article about that….

Do you want me to ridicule you by challenging your sources, i ‘d provide the link on Meaweather calling out Martinez…

Are you bold enough to take the challenge?

(Un manipulateur qui se cache derriere un titre farfelu de journaliste)

Posted September 1, 2013 6:58 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Either fight 3G at MW or vacate the Titles/Straps. I can’t even believe that Maravilla is talking about fighting Cotto at this point. WTF?

Posted September 1, 2013 6:58 pm 


Supreme Court

Two years ago, I waged a campaign against this FRAUD called Sergio Martinez…. Now you have the proof before your eyes!
Esb thugs are praising his career here…. Well
1- He has NEVER defeated a Hall-of-famer in his entire career.
2- P. Williams and worn-drunk Kelly Pavlik, two unidimensional fighters are the only reason we know about Sergio Martinez.

The man is one of the biggest coward in the middle weight history. He first turned down Pirog stating Pirog had no following…
He turned down Quillin; then GGG.
Sergio Martinez is a typical case of a fighter most likely using PED:
- He was known for most of his career as a feather-fisted-fighter, late in his career, all for a sudden, BOUM! The Malinaggi-like boxer became Tyson-like!
But age is catching up…. No PED can heal a body breaking down….
Against Chavez Jr, Martinez turned down random blood testing,…

( Sergio Martinez ou le desastre des Iles Malouines…)

Posted September 1, 2013 6:50 pm 


KILLA

Maravilla is such a humble human being. God bless him.

Posted September 1, 2013 6:35 pm 


Maracho

ok got that out of my system

for a lil while

Posted September 1, 2013 6:12 pm 


Maracho

Judge Maria Stratton, who presided over Margarito is considered the most evil of the L.A. district. Here are a few of the many negative experiences with the witch

open.salon.com/blog/fernsy/2010/06/29/elana_kagan_vs_judge_maria_stratton

blog.courtroominsight.com/2011/08/17/second-review-of-los-angeles-county-superior-court-judge-maria-stratton/

courthouseforum.com/forums/view.php?id=1070016

blog.courtroominsight.com/2011/07/20/review-of-judge-maria-stratton/

And the California State Athletic Commission is a bad

fightopinion.com/2012/09/17/csac-woodard-legal-bill/

fightopinion.com/2013/07/09/california-che-guevara-resignation/

fightopinion.com/2013/02/01/che-guevara-csac-job-security/

Posted September 1, 2013 6:11 pm 


Joseph Herron

btw…on tonight’s radio show we will be starting our review of the big September 14th fight card.

if anyone would like to share their views on the upcoming bout sheet, please dial 718-506-1506…the show begins at 9PM EST.

Thanks guys!!

I have to run now…I have to finish a press release for the show and an article on Luis Collazo, who will be featured on Fox Sports One tomorrow night from San Antonio, Texas.

Posted September 1, 2013 6:04 pm 


Maracho

The courts that you hold in such high esteem for dissing Margarito are also Judicial hellholes. Here is just a bit about two Judges who misjudged Margarito.

Judge Yaffe is the “tip of the iceberg” of the largest judicial scandal in American history. In Los Angeles County alone, approximately $300 million of illegal payments have been made to Los Angeles Superior Court judges from Los Angeles County since the late 1980’s.

Judge Yaffe Violated Due Process by Holding a 69 year old man in Contempt and Ordering him and Keeping him in “Coercive Confinement” Without a Hearing. X. Judge Yaffe’s Actions are Not an Isolated Incident But a Continuing Course of Conduct that Mandates his Removal. “By keeping him [Fine] incarcerated for 18 months, the court has deterred others from defying its orders …”

Judge Yaffe Committed “Fraud Upon the Court” By Presiding Over the Marina Strand Case While Having Received Illegal Payments From Los Angeles County and Not Having Disclosed Such Thereby Voiding All of His Actions. Then Violated Federal and State Due Process, His Oath of Office and the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution by Judging his Own Actions in the Contempt Proceeding Ancillary to the Marina Strand Case.

Posted September 1, 2013 6:03 pm 


Joseph Herron

Peej…this is getting old, my friend.

Please tell me which titlists were calling out Sergio Martinez in 2011?

Please give me one fighter who was calling out Sergio Martinez in 2011?

You just said it yourself that Sergio wasn’t a big ticket seller and didn’t bring much to the table economically?

He was the number 3 pound for pound fighter at the time and was considered by most rising stars or proven fighters to be too much risk for the reward.

Now that he looks vulnerable and is sidelined everyone has grown a pair?

Man…some of you haters are ridiculous.

And yes…you come across as a hater, my friend!!

Posted September 1, 2013 5:57 pm 


lman

I like sergio but I like boxing more, someone needs to pull a David haye on him and start seriously calling him out

Posted September 1, 2013 5:44 pm 


mayweather 86

Yes while I’ve heard this I’ve never seen any actual proof. And no u telling me doesn’t count. You kno like a statement from both camps etc. I like you Herron cause u actually debate on here. However he said, she said isn’t exactly truth.

Posted September 1, 2013 5:39 pm 


Maracho

No they found sulfur and calcium elements, which are found in about a gazillion products including a common fungicide often used to treat hands from fungus infested boxing gloves.

…and part of the reason that the lab results were not presented to the trial

Posted September 1, 2013 5:39 pm 


Maracho

but I bet if another fighter tried to use lidocaine, the Nevada commissions would be on him like stink on congress

Posted September 1, 2013 5:33 pm 


PEEJ

It was plaster of paris. That is why he was suspended and fined. Not to mention he couldn’t KO anybody after being caught.

Posted September 1, 2013 5:32 pm 


raygordonreid

I;VE GOT CANELO Y;ALL IM not a floyd MAYWEATHER

Posted September 1, 2013 5:18 pm 


Maracho

Thanks Joseph

Posted September 1, 2013 5:04 pm 


Maracho

Peej, its common knowledge that the rehydration clause was a temporary bending of the rules to benefit Cotto so you are obstructing justice again. With all due respect of course.

Likewise, Margarito had a knuckle pad to protect his knuckles as have most fighters. Heck even Floyd’s handwrapper putts all kinds of tricks on his hands. Likewise Floyd only fights in Nevada because they bend the lidocaine rules. Lidocaine is a known mood altering drug that directly effect fight or flight hormones like adrenaline.

Posted September 1, 2013 5:03 pm 


PEEJ

None of the fighters Sergio has fought has brought anything to the equation except for Chavez. If you notice he did not do well in the ratings and the arena he fought in where empty. So that is a lame excuse. He was not willing to fight the other titlest that where calling him out but yet he expects other people to step up to him. Sorry but that is lame. He refused to fight Quillen and Pirog. DiBella himself said Martinez could not make 154 unless he cut off a limb. I read in an interview and seen him interviewed where he said that.

Posted September 1, 2013 5:02 pm 


Joseph Herron

Moracho: “Mayweather fought Oscar and Cotto at 154. Mayweather is about to put up his 154 title in a 154 pound fight against Canelo. . Mayweather says he is the true 154 champ.

Mayweather said: “I would love to come back and fight the winner of Williams-Martinez. That’s the biggest fight right now. And those two guys would be one of the best draws fighting against “Money” Mayweather.”

After this fight Martinez called his bluff at both 154 and 150.

Maywaether called out Winky then he immediately backed down after his bluff was called by Winky.”

That’s exactly the way it went down, morach!!

Posted September 1, 2013 4:53 pm 


Maracho

I mean Mayweather is fighting a 154 title catchweight at 150, which is just weird after having fought their years ago.

“Skills pay the bills, not weight” According to Floyd Mayweather himself but I guess he only means that when he is the bigger man. ha ha ha

Posted September 1, 2013 4:53 pm 


Joseph Herron

Peej,

Lou DiBella and Sergio Martinez both told me to my face about their so called offer in 2011. They were trying to make a big fight with either Chavez or Floyd, and weren’t getting anywhere.

At one time…if you remember correctly, Sergio was a very avoided fighter. When you mention all of the guys he supposedly avoided, it’s not like anyone who brought money to the table were willing to step in the ring Sergio.

Yes, the Andy Lee’s and the Dmitriy Pirog’s were willing to fight him…but they brought nothing to the equation.

This creates a real problem when you’re not a money maker or big ticket seller yourself…Sergio was always looking for that big marquee match-up to elevate his career to the next level.

I think you are suffering from memory loss here, Peej…with all due respect of course.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:52 pm 


Patrick2

Joseph, yes, Sergio has had only one fight since Chavez, but I think it’s fair to say pre-Chavez, Martinez would have had an easy time with Martin Murray — no disrespect to Mr. Murray. And while one fight isn’t a good indicator of a boxer’s current abilities, Sergio’s advancing age (now 38) and laundry-list of nagging injuries, I think, tells of a fighter on a serious and quick decline.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:51 pm 


Maracho

Mayweather fought Oscar and Cotto at 154. Mayweather is about to put up his 154 title in a 154 pound fight against Canelo. . Mayweather says he is the true 154 champ.

Mayweather said: “I would love to come back and fight the winner of Williams-Martinez. That’s the biggest fight right now. And those two guys would be one of the best draws fighting against “Money” Mayweather.”

After this fight Martinez called his bluff at both 154 and 150.

Maywaether called out Winky then he immediately backed down after his bluff was called by Winky.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:48 pm 


PEEJ

There exact words where he would need to cut off a limb to make 154. That means he cannot make 154. Plain and simple.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:40 pm 


PEEJ

Yes I know all about the so called offer. Like I said before hand they said they could not longer make 154. This is from him and his team. Of course he is gonna try and make a fight with Floyd. Who doesn’t want one. But he cannot make 154. If he could he would have already done it already. He is looking for the money fights and they would all be at 154 or at 168. His team said he could not longer make 154 because of all the weight he put on when he fought Pavlik, that is why the rematch with Williams happened at 157. That is fact, look it up.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:39 pm 


Joseph Herron

You’re wrong, Peej.

Team Martinez made an offer to Mayweather in 2011 and 2012 in which they would be willing to go down to as low as 150 to fight Mayweather while giving him 80% of the purse.

Mayweather turned it down each time.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:35 pm 


mayweather 86

There is no such thing as running from anyone at 154 when your not a 154lb fighter. Simple as that. They can come down to 147 or go business as usual. Which they did. Mayweather isn’t a 154lb fighter nor will he ever be. Ppl need to get over it. With that being said I agree that Martinez shouldn’t face ggg right off injuries but it’s clear he’s extremely ring worn and I think retirement should be in his near future. Just my opinion

Posted September 1, 2013 4:20 pm 


PEEJ

You are mistaken, Floyd never ducked Martinez. Martinez can’t make 154. If he could he would have done it already because there is much more money at 154 than 160. Like I said in a previous post Williams wanted to rematch Martinez at 154 and they said he could no longer make 154 and would they came up woth the catchweight of 157. They said Martinez would have to cut a limb off to make 154. So you are mistaken.

Posted September 1, 2013 4:13 pm 


PEEJ

Nope he was found to be cheating. I never said Cotto was having trouble making weight. I said they both had the same amount of time to rehydrate. Malinaggi wanted to fight Cotto so I don’t see what the problem is

Posted September 1, 2013 4:11 pm 


Maracho

Peej, you are obviously suffering from some sort of Stockholm syndrome for its common knowledge that Cotto was the one that had great trouble making 140 so much so that he looked as gaunt as a gulag inmate .

Likewise, its a proven fact that Margarito never had any casts on his hands but was framed by a officials all known for their gross misconduct; whom you now defend

Posted September 1, 2013 3:57 pm 


Maracho

Maywether did indeed run from Martinez at both 154 and cacthweight 150

Posted September 1, 2013 3:56 pm 


PEEJ

Nobody ran from Martinez at 154. Look at who he fought at 154, he has a list of nobodies where most of the fights he had at 154 the fighters had a losing record. Floyd never ducked Martinez at 154, Floyd has only fougt twice. Hard to duck sombody at 154 when youve only fought at that weight class twice. Martinez has ducked a few fighters at 160 and has constantly called out fighters at 147 to meet him at 154 when he can’t even make 154 himself.

Posted September 1, 2013 3:35 pm 


Woop Woop

Martinez is obviously tired of GGG running from him and taking all those guys outside the top 15. Martinez needs a retirement payday and that’s what he’ll get against little Cotto.

Posted September 1, 2013 3:33 pm 


PEEJ

Rehydrating and fighting with a cast on your fists are 2 totally different things. Malinaggi also had that same amount of time rehydrating.

Posted September 1, 2013 3:30 pm 


Maracho

Oh and Peej, you have been brainwashed by these very powers that be, especially win it comes to weight issues. The evidence indicates that Cotto is actually a bigger cheat than Margarito for he was allowed to rehydrate for two whole days before literally crushing the facial bones of Malinaggi.

Posted September 1, 2013 3:26 pm 


Maracho

Its obvious though that Martinez is defending his belt much better and more often then Mayweather, who ducked both he and Winky at 154.

Oh and speaking of getting stripped, the rules are very emphatic that any title holder who gets incarcerated will be stripped. Sulaiman’s answer: “Beating a lady is highly critical, but it is not a major sin or crime.” PATHETIC

Posted September 1, 2013 3:20 pm 


Maracho

Mayweather 86, I seen the fight and I agree that he lost to Murrey. However, he says he has three serious injuries in his hand, knee and shoulder

Again, Sturm wont fight him and Pirog is injured too. That basically leaves GGG, a rematch with Murray or barker, or going down in weight.

Posted September 1, 2013 3:12 pm 


mayweather 86

@muracho agreed hbo is a pain in the butt anymore

Posted September 1, 2013 3:06 pm 


PEEJ

The Ring Championship belt cannot be stripped. Only can be lost in the ring, moving out of the weight class or retiring.

Posted September 1, 2013 3:04 pm 


Maracho

Yeah to bad HBO wont let him fight Quillin or the winner of Alvaez/Mayweather.

Anyway, he still has at least another eight months before the biased powers that be strip him like they did Bradley, etc..

Posted September 1, 2013 3:01 pm 


mayweather 86

He got a hometown decision v Murray. I dont even like Murray and I still believe he won. @ muracho if he’s that injured he needs to retire instead of avoiding the real man at 160. Where is squared circle when I need him

Posted September 1, 2013 2:58 pm 


PEEJ

There can only be one champion and that is Martinez. Those belts can say champion all they want to. They should actually belong to Martinez but they where stripped. Which is why the champion name that is etched on them means nothing. They where all unified when Hopkins had them and when him and Taylor fought. So like I say he is merely a titlest just like GGG. Yes I consider GGG to be the best at 160 but he is not the Champion. I can purchase me a belt that says champion on it but that does not make me one. Like the Highlander, there can only be one. And I would much rather someone become the Champion and defend the belt. Arum wouldn’t let Cotto near Floyd and Margacheato, well he is a cheater and I could care less about his career. And then after Floyd beat Boldamire he fought Judah, everybody wanted to see that fight.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:54 pm 


FEARS

I agree with Boxing Barlow, this is a terrible fight to make. I’ve always contended that Cotto should’ve stayed at 147.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:49 pm 


Maracho

It would be stupid to fight GGG coming off injuries. Sturm wont fight him so Martinez has little choice but to go down in weight.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:41 pm 


mayweather 86

I would love for him to grow a pair, admit that Murray should have his belt. Then he can fight golovkin. Yea right like that will ever happen. What say you Joseph Herron

Posted September 1, 2013 2:35 pm 


PEEJ

Nope. Like I said Williams wanted the rematch at 154 and his team said they would have to cut off a limb to get to 154. They made the fight at 157. He has stated before he can’t make 154, he put on too much muscle to go to 160. So until he proves otherwise he is a 160lb fighter.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:25 pm 


Joseph Herron

Patrick,

you only have one fight to draw from.

Now if you stated this after two or three sluggish outings, then I would agree with you. But we haven’t seen enough to really make an accurate assessment.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:23 pm 


Patrick2

Peej, I don’t think so. I think Sergio has always been able to make, and could still make 154. In fact, IIRC, Sergio comes in light when fighting at 160/middle. He just went to 160/middle to make some bigger fights/paydays. He’s a 154 pound guy.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:20 pm 


PEEJ

He is a titlest. He is not a world champion. Martinez is the Lineal World Champion at 160

Posted September 1, 2013 2:18 pm 


MMendoza

Both Cotto are on my top 10 favorites — not necessarily following the P4P list but rather because they both remind me a lot of Ghatti — risk-taking, guts and excitement value.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:14 pm 


murderman

Noticed sergio called out cotto and not triple g or quillen? Hmmmm!

Posted September 1, 2013 2:14 pm 


Patrick2

Joesph, I’d love to be surprised — I’d love to see a pre-12th-round-with-Chavez Sergio Martinez emerge after a layoff, but since that fight/round I haven’t seen anything from Sergio — only a steep decline in his abilities — to indicate it’s possible. But I’ll keep my fingers crossed…

Posted September 1, 2013 2:12 pm 


Joseph Herron

Peej,

the last time a promoter was forced to stage a fight without demand because of the “world title”, they lost a bundle…”Hopkins/Dawson I”.

Yes…the demand for a fight always matters in boxing.

Besides, Golovkin is already a world champion.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:12 pm 


PEEJ

Martinez did not get ducked by anybody at 154. He should of getten the nod against Williams and then the next fight he got the call to fight Pavlik for the Championship. They thought Pavlik was gonna win, it was a comeback fight for him because he was in and out of rehab and was to busy being an acoholic. After that fight Martinez and his team said he could not longer make 154. That is why they made the Williams rematch at 157. Williams wanted back at 154. There is more money at 154 thatn 160 and if he could of made 154 he would of already done that.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:10 pm 


PEEJ

Really doen’t matter about demand for a fight between GGG and Martinez. As long as Martinez is still the champ then GGG is gonna want to fight him unless Martinez loses the Championship Belt to someone else. The can simply put it on an undercard of a major PPV or something like that. Martinez doesn’t really draw well for TV ratings and really can’t sell tickets.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:07 pm 


MMendoza

BOXING BARLOW and PUBIC ENEMY: You’re so right on. Cotto’s frame barely fits in welterweight or super-welterweight. When he went up to 154 division, that’s really begging the limit. Only reason why Cotto would fight at 160 or at a catchweight close to that, would the millions which are guaranteed, since he is the 3rd biggest name for PPV at this time. I am also not happy about Cotto changing trainers so many times — but hey, it is what it is. Both he and Maravilla are on the top of my list, but the fight doesn’t make sense for Cotto. Sergio wouldn’t have to give up anything and would probably triple whatever his last paycheck was — win or lose.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:05 pm 


Joseph Herron

You assume too much, Patrick.

Time will tell us everything we need to know.

If boxing history tells us anything at all, we have no idea who Sergio will eventually face in 2014.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:03 pm 


terror tim

Sergio knows his days are numbered. I thought he lost his last fight. There plenty of great fights for him at middleweight. Stop calling out smaller guys especially one who hasn’t been that good recently. I was a big fan of Sergio’s for a long time but he isn’t acting like a true champion right now. Fight true middleweights, retire or give up that belt. GGG is teh fight the fans want to see, make it happen.

Posted September 1, 2013 2:02 pm 


Patrick2

Joseph, I’d like to think so, but I think the handwriting is on the wall — and that is, physically, Sergio is a shell of his former self. And at 38, even with time to “heal up,” it won’t get better — what he gains back physically, he’ll lose skill wise with all the layoff time.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:58 pm 


chevy2500

Everyone forgets martinez is a real 154 lbs fighter he beat paul williams at 154 and got ducked by everyone at 154 so he went up to 160 I never heard him say he wanted cotto at a catch weight u all are just assuming so…I hope he fights cotto and then ggg leave on a good note got to back up all the talk he did with chaves about fighting the best opponent s

Posted September 1, 2013 1:54 pm 


boxing barlow

No way should Cotto be fighting at middleweight. He’s always been a class act but anything above welterweight and he’s giving away too much of a size difference to be competative against the elite of the division. Light middle has been a step too far for him IMO let alone middle, this was evidenced in the Trout fight and to a certain extent the second Margirito fight. He’s always had trouble with bigger fighters. If he can still make the weight he should come back down to welterweight wheres there some great fights out there still to be made.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:45 pm 


IRON MIKE

Joseph – Miguel lost his last two fights, has never fought above 154- and yes the guys who have fought at 160 and have won have earned a shot deserve a shot at the title – lots of respect for Miguel, but he is passed it, just because he has a big name does not mean he deserves a shot at the middleweight title, Miguel needs a couple of fast wins before he fights for a title in my books-peace

Posted September 1, 2013 1:44 pm 


Maracho

Martinez walks around lighter than Alvarez and he has even offered both Pacman and Floyd a 150 pound catchweight.

I haven’t heard him say that he can’t make 154.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:40 pm 


Maracho

Martinez and Pirog are both coming off injuries and would be very fan friendly.

Martinez and Austin Trout makes makes sense though because if Martinez wins, he can say he beat the guy who just beat Cotto and almost beat Canelo

Posted September 1, 2013 1:39 pm 


Joseph Herron

Give it time, Patrick…who knows, Sergio might prove to be super human like Vitali Klitschko and be better than ever after some much needed time off

Posted September 1, 2013 1:28 pm 


BRUCE

MIDDLE WEIGHT USED TO BE THE GREATEST WEIGH IN BOXING.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:26 pm 


Patrick2

Does anyone really think, at this point in time, a Martinez vs GGG fight would be competitive or compelling? I know I don’t. Martinez is [now] really beat up, worn down, and worn out. GGG would run over and flatten him like a speeding bus. Only those who don’t like Sergio, or just want to see a slaughter, would opt for this fight. I’d rather see them both in competitive matches, and that will mean fighting other fighters.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:23 pm 


Joseph Herron

Who knows, guys…there might not even be a demand for a fight between Sergio and Gennady by that time if Sergio looks like he’s still struggling physically.

If Maravilla has another uncharacteristically sluggish performance, would you still want to see a fight between Triple G and Maravilla?

I don’t think so.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:19 pm 


PEEJ

Hard to say someone is not a real 160 pounder when they can’t even make 154. I would think if you can’t make 154 but can make 160 then that makes you a real middleweight. Martinez has ducked most of the real challenges at 160 and should of lost his Championship in his last fight.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:16 pm 


Anonymous

Cotto would be a good Money and Popularity fight for Sergio but GGG is better and a more dangerous fight for Sergio. The problem is fighting GGG won’t make Sergio any more popular amongst causal fans and won’t fill up his bank account like a Cotto fight will which is something Sergio should be looking for at this stage in his career….MONEY FIGHTS. After all, they fight for MONEY.

Legacy is only greater than Money if you can Keep your Money and you can capitalize on your victories after your career is over. Most can’t.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:14 pm 


UJelly

I don’t see a problem with Martinez’ plan. He’s not ducking Golovkin in this… he’s actually doing what he stated a couple of months back when he mentioned a GGG fight (i.e. that he’d fight Golovkin in late 2014 after a tune up).
I’m a Cotto fan, but he’s not even a real 154 pounder, let alone a 160 pounder, so for Martinez it would be a “hard” tune-up that pays incredibly well. A good retirement fund leading into what it seems many (or even most) are starting to view as his demise against Golovkin.

Posted September 1, 2013 1:12 pm 


Joseph Herron

Iron Mike,

do you really think a Middleweight prospect is more qualified than a proven three division champion who has already fought a who’s who in boxing?

Really?

Posted September 1, 2013 1:11 pm 


IRON MIKE

Even still Miguel is a small jr middle, 158 is really pushing him, and if does get the fight you can bet the title will be on the line, Floyd and Manny both had catch weights and the title was on the line, it will be if this fight happens
I would really lie to see GGG fight Serigo real soon, a passing of the torch is what needs to happen -peace

Posted September 1, 2013 12:54 pm 


Joseph Herron

Iron Mike,

I don’t think it would be a contest for the Middleweight title. I can see this bout being held at 158 pounds.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:44 pm 


PEEJ

There should be no complaints if GGG fights Martinez. GGG would KO Martinez but GGG should be clamoring for that fight since Martinez is the champion. Old or not he holds the Championship belt and that is what you should be trying to get. Now if he where to win and take the same rout as what Martinez has taken then he would merit criticism. I don’t see GGG doing that though. He seems like the type of fighter to challenge himself.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:29 pm 


IRON MIKE

It would be very simple for the HBO HYPE machine to build up GGG, he has everything a fan loves, power killer instinct , If HBO can build up Berto and the likes how hard would it be to build up GGG, no thing at all, turn on the hype machine and see what happens in no time he will be a huge draw- as for Miguel Cotto getting a shot at the middleweight title no way, I respect Cotto big time, but we need to allow the fighters who fought in the weight class who have earned a shot to fight for the title,not someone with a name-peace

Posted September 1, 2013 12:23 pm 


KOrnerman

Patrick we THINK we know who the best are, until they actually fight we don’t really know,there’s been many shocks in the sport of boxing,don’t believe the hype.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:20 pm 


KOrnerman

That’s very true, I just hope he’s back to his best soon and can give a few more fights at his best, he deserves a big money fight he’s earned it the hard way through years of obscurity,one of the few star fighters who gained recognition in the ring and not for their actions outside it.get well soon Marvilla we want to see you take on your challengers at your best.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:18 pm 


Joseph Herron

Unfortunately, KO…it’s the sad truth, brother.

I can’t blame any fighter for standing their ground…it’s their legacy and no one elses.

The fighters ultimately take the blame for their handlers decisions.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:11 pm 


KOrnerman

I think his name Golovkin will take a while to permeate the casual fans home,that’s the problem,they definitely need to market the triple G name,by the time it does Marvilla is past his best, or HBO will use him to pass the torch onto GGG then goodbye Martinez, the suits don’t care about the fighters.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:06 pm 


PEEJ

PPV between Martinez and Cotto will not do all that great. Maybe a couple hundred thoughsand buys at best. He really squeandered a lot of the momentum he had after knocking out Williams away by constantly calling out Floyd and Pac and not fighting or not fighting the better comp.

Posted September 1, 2013 12:00 pm 


KOrnerman

The fella wants a big payday and tbh even GGG doesn’t carry that, thats why he’s thinking hmmm Cotto has a big fan base and a ppv fight between us will make me good bucks, might be the next valuable option to Pacman or Money.

Posted September 1, 2013 11:50 am 


KOrnerman

*at least 6 months

Posted September 1, 2013 11:47 am 


KOrnerman

Peej I agree as good as he is he hasn’t sought out the divisions best when he had the chances to,time waits for no man and another 6 months out might turn him old and ripe for the taking.

Posted September 1, 2013 11:46 am 


PEEJ

Sounds like he is still not gonna fight the real comp in his weight class. He has constantly ran from the other titlest using money as his reason. Martinez can’t sell any where but home and no boxer is gonna fight him there after what happened to Murray. My knee is always hurting but I don’t let it cut my stuff short. Sounds like he didn’t want the hard ball questions so he got out quickly

Posted September 1, 2013 11:22 am 


KOrnerman

Father time waits for no man Joseph, hopefully a rest is enough but like you say it doesn’t look good,all the best to him.

Posted September 1, 2013 11:01 am 


Joseph Herron

Good Morning from South Texas, guys!!

I thought I was going to have a lot more time with Sergio, but HBO press agents were really rushing me off camera. According to one of the press agents at HBO, Sergio could not devote as much time as he had originally anticipated to the fans in attendance and the media who requested interviews, due to health concerns.

I had to catch Sergio as he was leaving the building…but if I had known HBO was going to limit my interview to four questions, I would have never started the interview the way I did…I would have merely pulled a Dan Rafael and gone right to the primary objective of the interview.

I had to get most of my supplemental information by off camera response and a much more telling interview with manager Sampson Lewcowicz by himself.

I don’t know if the “health concerns” reason for his early exit was entirely accurate, but it doesn’t sound very positive for Sergio’s future.

One of the HBO reps said Sergio’s knee was bugging him…that’s not good, guys.

I’m hoping that he pulls a Vitali and merely needs time away from his usually rigorous training regimen, but I fear the worst.

What do you guys think?

Posted September 1, 2013 10:50 am 


PEEJ

Martinez hasn’t really taken on the best of his division. He constantly called out Floyd and Pac like a bully and took on the less expierenced in his division when he was being called out. He never accepted saying it wasn’t a good money fight. Martinez can’t sell anywhere but home and of course he got a gift at home so it will be hard to find someone that wants to go there and fight him again.

Posted September 1, 2013 10:46 am 


Ivan

Sergio vs. Cotto would be an insult to the fans. They are billing this as a Latino thing but it’s a scam to milk the sport and Latino fans in the first place. Cotto is too small for Martinez, Martinez is too old for Golovkin.

Posted September 1, 2013 10:42 am 


zurdo

And he would fear to fight Golovkin….

Posted September 1, 2013 10:39 am 


raygordonreid

MARTINEZ

Posted September 1, 2013 10:31 am 


KOrnerman

Id rather see him go out on his shield even if it means GGG putting him there,at least he goes out fighting the other best guy,just my opinion.

Posted September 1, 2013 10:30 am 


KOrnerman

Patrick good point but he’s the Champ so he has to be able to face these young lions or give the belt up, would you prefer to see him milk his reign fighting easy defences?

Posted September 1, 2013 10:28 am 


dwc

I doubt this is just a tune-up for GGG.I belive Sergio will look for a couple of more smaller,shot fighters with big names to cash in,then retire.Its things like this that ruin the overall career of a fighter,retirement sits better then ducking and cashing out in the end.

Posted September 1, 2013 10:26 am 


Patrick2

I love Sergio; he’s been an amazing fighter and great champion. But he’s old and now broken up from injuries. (Chavez’s heavy hands did a number on him.) At his age, you don’t really heal up — injuries remain chronic and nagging annoyances — you just try to find ways to train around them. So at this point, a fight with GGG would prove very little. GGG would just steamroll him — it wouldn’t be a competitive fight for fans, and for Sergio it would likely be a career-ending, brutal defeat. For these reasons I say a fight with Cotto makes more sense — the size difference would make up for all the injuries Martinez has. Let GGG fight some of the stronger, fresher young lions at 160.

Posted September 1, 2013 10:24 am 


KOrnerman

*dont buy

Posted September 1, 2013 10:17 am 


KOrnerman

PEEJ most likely a catch-weight, likely 158, would be exiting but a foregone conclusion, the thing I dont but is the fact its going to be ppv, really? in fairness he cant be expected to fight GGG on his first fight after resting.

Posted September 1, 2013 10:16 am 


KOrnerman

I think the Cotto fight would be a good tune up for GGG

Posted September 1, 2013 10:14 am 


PEEJ

If he fights Cotto it will be at 160 because Martinez cannot make 154. He has yet to take on the other titlest in his division. The other titlest are the top of the division. He went for the weakest titlest in Chavez. Martinez is overrated and should of lost his Championship to Murray

Posted September 1, 2013 9:48 am 


The Mad Scientist

I guess Martinez only fights for money now

Posted September 1, 2013 9:32 am 


banjo

english isn’t martinez’s first language. what he means is that he wants to retire.

just cotto and then the great eric morales before the pipe and slippers for martinez

Posted September 1, 2013 9:26 am 


Tyrone Jones

Cotto is with Golden Boy who dont do HBO.

Cotto fights at 154 and if Martinez is going down to that weight then he should fight Erislandy Lara, Alvarez, Molina, or Martirosyan.

Cotto is also past his prime.

So maybe HBO should just allow Martinez to fight at Showtime for an attempt at Quillin’s WBO title

Posted September 1, 2013 9:21 am 


pugfan

I would love to have seen you fight Cotto when he was still in the up side of his career.

Posted September 1, 2013 9:08 am 


daniel

Sergio you’ve had a fabulous career and a fantastic late run. If you want to protect the legacy retire now. If you need the money still well, I sympathize, fight the Cotto’s. However, Miguel Angel would not let you off the hook like Chavz Jr. did in the last round. Better watch out!

Posted September 1, 2013 9:03 am 


Boxtradamus

His quote says all i need to kmow on how he feels about fighting GGG.

Posted September 1, 2013 8:10 am 


Exiled Yank

He needs to fight GGG or Quillin

Posted September 1, 2013 7:50 am 



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