Bugner… You’re an idiot… And I’m not 70Posted September 10, 2013 10:03 pm
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted September 9, 2013 11:22 pm
Is he really 70? That explains a lot! Tark and Squared Circle are the biggest morons !Posted September 9, 2013 5:44 am
de LimaI, I know I’m right!Posted September 9, 2013 4:34 am
He’s a sexist fool and a very annoying know-it-all !Posted September 8, 2013 8:47 am
Old Yank, indeed, Alan Guth is a brilliant physicists!!Posted September 8, 2013 4:01 am
Ah I should have read between the lines… It finally makes sense now. ;-)
Life is too beautiful to be mad or bitter.
De Lima I.
Joanne — you’re right.
TARK has tried to insult me — but it didn’t work,
TARK — If you or ANYONE were to serially read your posts on this thread they would conclude that you called yourself a liar at least three times. You flip-flop more than a freshly caught rock bass in the bottom of a hot aluminum boat!Posted September 7, 2013 7:49 pm
TARK — Your words: You look to Hawking for “inspirational scientific theory”. And now, in your latestr post that mentions him he’s apparently just anoother crackpot with theories so far out there that he just “rambles” (to use your word).
Rule #1 when you’ve dug yourself into a deep hole: PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!Posted September 7, 2013 7:47 pm
Dino — Alan Guth is a brilliant physicists. Indeed he leans heavily on inflation theory, but he is a huge admirer of Linde and what others are doing at Stamford. Strings and particles are the current wave and my grandchildren will come to understand things much better than I because of it. Guth seems fascinated by the science behind multiverse theory.Posted September 7, 2013 7:42 pm
What ? 70 ?Posted September 7, 2013 6:52 pm
JOANNE TARK IS AN OLD FRUSTRATED MAN. 70 TO BE EXACT.Posted September 7, 2013 6:44 pm
JOANNEBUGNER IS RIGHT!!!!!!Posted September 7, 2013 6:23 pm
You said God made man smart enough to know Him. This means women aren’t smart enough !Posted September 7, 2013 4:19 pm
This is a very petty excuse and you know it !Posted September 7, 2013 4:16 pm
And I’m not sexist… It’s God the Father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And the Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mother of God.
No sexism is involved… Just facts.
We’ve always said “Mr. President” because we’ll always had a male president. We’ll say “Ms. President” when a women is elected.
And it won’t be sexist.Posted September 7, 2013 3:53 pm
De LimaI. Right, it’s a waste of time .Posted September 7, 2013 3:11 pm
The White-backed Vulture is a typical vulture, with only down feathers on the head and neck, very broad wings and short tail feathers. It has a white neck ruff. The adult’s whitish back contrasts with the otherwise dark plumage. Juveniles are largely dark. This is a medium-sized vulture; its body mass is 4.2 to 7.2 kilograms (9.3–16 lb), it is 78 to 98 cm (31 to 39 in) long and has a 1.96 to 2.25 m (6 to 7 ft) wingspan.
Like other vultures it is a scavenger, feeding mostly from carcasses of animals which it finds by soaring over savannah. It also takes scraps from human habitations. It often moves in flocks. It breeds in trees on the savannah of west and east Africa, laying one egg. The population is mostly resident. As it is rarer than previously believed, its conservation status was reassessed from Least Concern to Near Threatened in the 2007 IUCN Red List. In 2012 it was further uplisted to EndangeredPosted September 7, 2013 2:54 pm
edit> about his theoryPosted September 7, 2013 12:28 pm
Old Yank, what do you think about Alan Guth??Posted September 7, 2013 11:54 am
The Brazilian joy of life huh? :-)Posted September 7, 2013 11:32 am
De Lima I.
(I’m overwhelmed with joy today, maybe that explains my post below) LOLPosted September 7, 2013 11:19 am
De Lima I.
It’s so disappointing that racism is making a resurgence — I thought we were making a little bit of progress for a while, but apparently I was wrong. Why all that hate?
As for the comment “he’s a sexist fool”
Life is too beautiful to be mad or bitter.
(Sent from the cell phone as always — please forgive any typos)Posted September 7, 2013 8:24 am
‘ If I want awe inspiring scientific theory I’ll listen to Stephen Hawking not you. ‘Posted September 7, 2013 6:42 am
OLD YANK FINALLY BROUGHT TARK TO HIS KNEES!!!!Posted September 7, 2013 6:34 am
He’s a sexist fool!
God made man smart enough to know Him.
Posted September 5, 2013 10:52 amPosted September 7, 2013 6:19 am
It was about time!Posted September 7, 2013 6:10 am
old yank finally brought TARK to his kneesPosted September 7, 2013 2:27 am
Old Yank.., I never listened to Hawking for enlightenment… He’s theories were so off the wall you had to listen to his ramblings. He was very respected so it’s interesting the outrageous things people believe.
I take the everlasting expansion of the universe and the big bang as factual.. I believe them.. There is no other explanation right now.
But if somebody comes along with something that makes more sense??? I’ll go with that… WTF difference does it make???
You don’t know… Hawking doesn’t know… It’s all vanity
God probably LHAO every day at human attempts to make sense of the universe, it’s mysteries, and it’s origins.Posted September 6, 2013 9:41 pm
TARK — Right on!Posted September 6, 2013 9:38 pm
In a conversation I had with Bert Sugar a long time ago he BEAT into my head (and he could drone on about making a point) that boxing is FIRST about entertainment and EVERYTHING else comes in a DISTANT second! How right he was! Tommy Morrison was an entertainer and a damn good one at that!Posted September 6, 2013 8:36 pm
Scientists generally theorize that it all existed INSIDE the singularity (all matter, mass, energy and perhaps even time)! Thus…SINGULARITY — all in one single spot — a spot so small that it did not have any dimensions. So inconsequential that in the context of time, it did not even exist — because time did not exist. Now imagine that all this mass, matter and energy was its own chaotic singularity of a universe without dimensions (chaos because the laws of physics cannot work there — why? …Because physics requires order and 4 dimensions). And TIME was the adjoining universe – existing in a singularity of its own chaos. In one instant the bubble universe containing the chaos of mass, matter and energy BURST (bang) into the bubble universe of chaotic time — birthing order and the universe we know in one big bang. All of these things are not the imaginations of crackpots — they are models of things that might be possible — theories. Great stuff.Posted September 6, 2013 4:38 pm
Imagine a “bubble” universe that contained only three dimensions — length, width and depth. Imagine that it existed next to another universe that was comprised of only one dimension — time. Now imagine that the same way bubbles “jump” a bubble membrane, length, width and depth “jumped” the bubble membrane between these two universes. BANG! Order is granted to the new universe where only chaos existed in either one before they joined. And like colliding galaxies “steal” stars and star systems from each other as they pass through each other, universes might steal dimensions from each other as one passes through another. I imagine that My Maker has created something that is beyond my imagination.Posted September 6, 2013 3:26 pm
The concept of multiverse (many universes) requires a jump to the theory that beyond the dimensions of length, width, depth and time, an additional 7 dimensions exist (the “popular” belief is that perhaps as many as 11 dimensions exist). The other universes in a mulitverse environment do not necessarily behave within the laws of 4-dimensional physics. Chaos is the likely norm in these other universes and ours is a bit unique in its order. Perhaps one borders ours like one bubble bordering another in a froth of bubbles (the image typically used for a multiverse environment), except it operates with length, time, and dimensions 5, 8 and 11. We can’t see it, but physicists “feel” it might exist because it is needed in order to explain the unexplained — like constants that are not actually constant or constants that are larger or smaller than physics allows — suggesting that something else must be acting on them. In order to explain all the unexplained, “popular” theory suggests that as many as 11 dimensions must exist. If they do exist, then they exist in other universes. There is no evidence of them existing in ours (in ways measurable by physical law) other than our universe cannot be fully explained without the existence of other dimensions or other universes acting on ours. The notion of one universe may soon become as foolish as the notion that the earth is the center of ours. And that is the direction science seems to be pointing.Posted September 6, 2013 2:37 pm
maracho — I believe that much opportunity exists for intent to be confused and confusing. For example, many see book of Ecclesiastes (one of the books on wisdom) as fatalistic — “to everything there is a seanson; a time to be born and a time to die”. Some interpret this with a huge “So then, what’s the use/point – it is all seems pre-ordained” question. Others, whom I gravitate to, interpret it as an instruction to find great joy in simply living – that there is a meaning and purpose to everything. On the other hand are the books of Song of Songs and Wisdom (again books on/about wisdom). And here some folks interpret these books to say that a search for knowledge and wisdom is futile because one can never know all that is to be known – the books essentially tell us so. And yet others, whom I gravitate to, suggest that life can be fulfilling in the simple pursuit of knowledge, discernment, wisdom and truth. And in these books on wisdom I believe we are all challenged to recognize that we have a choice; we can find fulfillment in the simple cycles of life (a time to laugh and a time to cry) and/or in the simple pursuit of learning. In any case, I leave this all to a sense of “to each his own”.Posted September 6, 2013 2:05 pm
maracho — Actually I get comfort in the concept of infinity. If such a thing exists then everything potentially ends up repeated an infinite number of times – cycles of cosmic inhaling and exhaling. The theories of big bang followed by big crunch fit well into a notion of infinitely repeating cycles. I also get comfort from the scientific hypothesis of our universe originating in a singularity that contained all the matter, mass and energy that ever existed and ever will exist and yet the singularity had no dimensions and “existed” without time. I get comfort contemplating the possibility that many dimensions might exist that we are unable to “see”. It is comforting to me that it might be possible that from nothing came something — came everything. Others find comfort in the simple joy of living being enough for them and accept that when their life ends they are permanently wiped from the face of existence forever more. And others find comfort in any number of things; to each his own.Posted September 6, 2013 1:48 pm
Old yank, you claim that this multiverse hypothesis makes you feel the cosmos is like your soul–”at once everything and then nothing…wash, rinse and repeat”. This is pessimistic even in multiverse terms for if multivers is true, its like a baby undergoing rapid growth/expansion but then slowly developing into a hard working and essential part of society until a threshold of contracting back to the infancy-like condition of an old man and finally back to whole new dimension in a heavenly realm at the hands of his creator.
You see, there is good evidence that the first cosmologists created the first zodiac as signs representing the coming Christ. Satan has done his best to corrupt this message in the religions of all people, including your own.Posted September 6, 2013 12:52 pm
No, I am not confused about EWinstein’s constants at all — he had a nuymber of them.Posted September 6, 2013 12:43 pm
The primary synonym for hypothesis is “theory”.
Old yank, your own 2013 Scientific American article calls it a hypothesis, not a theory.
You are also confusing Einstein’s Cosmological constant for it is not about constant speed but rather a constant energy counteracting gravitational pull. Interestingly, this same constant speed confusion is what makes some scientists exaggerate the age of the earth.
And again, even if the universe is undergoing accelerating expansion, it in no way necessitates the development of new universes.
Even if new solar systems and galaxies are developing, it in no way necessitates that parallel universes are developing in alternative dimensional planes. They would simply be derivatives of the original creation just as are little babies born today.
Even if parallel universes are developing in alternative dimensional planes, it in no way necessitates your apparent agnosticism/atheism but rather an unobservable faith based heavenly realm.Posted September 6, 2013 12:19 pm
De Lima I. — I’m humbled by your words.Posted September 6, 2013 11:46 am
De Lima I.
Old Yank — A great post from a very wise man.
And should some primal substance resembling a soul survive it all, so be it. If not, so be it. I have great difficulty grasping what “existed” before the big bang. Science theorizes that all matter and energy that ever existed or was ever banged into existence was contained in a package so small that it had no dimensions — time did not exist. It was not even the notion of some tiny pregnant dot suspended in the emptiness of a void, because a dot is too big and a void has theoretical dimension and therefore not even a void existed — NOTHING existed but everything contained in something without dimension. And then, bang…EVERYTHING existed that will ever exist in terms of energy and matter. From nothing, something. For some it is mind blowing. For me it connects me to a dimensionless soul that at once is everything and nothing; at once is the beginning and the end. And ultimately is The Great I Am. Oh, for me there are only three absolutes: Something Greater then myself exists; I can love; I can accept love. EVERYTHING else, no matter how strongly I might express an opinion, is subject to challenge.Posted September 6, 2013 10:11 am
JoanneBugner — Thank you!Posted September 6, 2013 7:52 am
TARK — AGAIN, your current position of it all being theory is a HUGE FLIP FLOP from your own earlier words. So I’ll stick those earlier words in your face — “better to stick with facts” after all:
“Old Yank.., I really don’t care about guesses.. You can guess that distant universes are expanding our universe at an ever expanding rate.. Better to stick with facts..”
Facts? What facts? We are discussing theories and you claimed that the theory of big bang followed by big crunch (wash, rinse and repeat) was not possible because the FACTS proved otherwise. And you were FULL OF IT!
I will add that I do appreciate that you seem to be coming around to showing that you are possibly educable after all.Posted September 6, 2013 7:49 am
TARK — You are worse than Obama doing his typical backward dance — “I did not draw any red line!” Here are YOUR WORDS:
“Nice theory.., but that cannot happen. Scientists have proven that the universe will continue expanding forever. That means everything that physically exists, that we have any knowledge of, will continue expanding forever until it disperses into nothingness.”
You clearly did NOT believe that the big bang is a theory and you clearly DID believe that “scientists had PROVEN that the universe will continue to expand forever”. A theory is something that is NOT proven. A FACT is PROVEN.
Your last post now claiming that all things about the big bang (etc) is just theory raised the question: WHY THE “F” DID YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH IN THE FIRST PLACE CLAIMING A THEORY WAS PROVEN?Posted September 6, 2013 7:31 am
Old Yank, agreed 100%!Posted September 6, 2013 6:06 am
Old Yank just destroyed and owned TARK!!!!!
LMAO!!!!!Posted September 6, 2013 3:31 am
Old Yank.., Why do you cling to stupidity? You’re arguing about things you don’t have a clue about and you’re trying to sound knowledgeable. If I want awe inspiring scientific theory I’ll listen to Stephen Hawking not you.
The big bang theory is just that.. It is one theory of how the universe was created. I find all the scientific literature and hypotheses interesting. I believe the big bang happened, but I don’t really care enough to devote my life to studying the whole thing. I’m not an astrophysicist or cosmologist; I’m more of a political scientist and macro economist because those are things mortals can readily grasp without extreme hypotheses about dark energy, 5th dimensions, and multi-universes.
We have been trying to communicate with other planetary beings in distant stars systems by means of radio waves and whatnot. It’s all good, but within 30 or so years I’ll be in another world anyway. I believe I’ll be given these answers along with a glorified body and divine intelligence at that time. As I near the threshold, I’ll be more into the spiritual, mystical, and supernatural than the earthly, physical, and political.Posted September 5, 2013 10:02 pm
Well I’m not a cosmologist so I just go by what I’ve read… That is that the universe is expanding and will keep expanding forever, and we’ll have no repeat of the big bang, which was the theory not too long ago when I was a young man … Now the idea of everlasting expansion could be totally wrong and I really could really GAS — because in 100 years they’re going to be changing all the theories again — and I won’t be living on Earth at that time and won’t be invovled in the discussions, which will probably be very interesting to Earth bound humans at that time.Posted September 5, 2013 9:58 pm
Leading Big Banger Alan Guth and most other cosmologists claim that the Big Bang went through initial hyperinflation and super symmetry but has slowed drastically partly do to gravity and entropy. However, a mysterious dark energy “seems” to be making the galaxy reaccelerate. Some scientist are bringing up relativity in that it only appears to accelerate from our vantage point but reacceleration could easily be compared to a bullet or rocket picking up velocity as it leaves the launcher but eventually slowing and becoming less accurate/organized due to gravity, entropy, etc..; but then at further distances, the rocket will meet a threshold of decreasing gravitational resistance, differing layers of torsion, turbulence, dark energy etc..
Its the same distance, mass, atmospheric, orbital thresholds, and fuel science that space rockets face during their difficult passage through earth’s atmosphere to space. it’s why Cape Canaveral was an ideal location. Its the same old common sense with a newage twist to increase our taxesPosted September 5, 2013 9:44 pm
Any man clinging desperately to stupidity is bound to see all others as pompous. Later brother.Posted September 5, 2013 8:23 pm
TARK — Nice confession. Indeed you do NOT understand everything right away! I just told you that science says that all mass, all matter and all energy once existed without dimension. Then BANG! It all existed — but science has some issues. In the opening milliseconds of the big bang, only about 99% of all matter can be accounted for. More matter can be accounted for as time tick by. Are you certain that no other dimensionless universe exists out there that will BANG into physical dimension at any time? If God created the darkness and then created light, what else does he have in store that is beyond your imagination? Jews believe that essentially everything God had to say he said some 3,000 or more years ago. Christians essentially believe that everything God had to say was updated some 2,000 or so years ago. Muslims essentially believe God stopped speaking to us about 1,400 years ago (the death of Muhammad). And Mormons believe God last spoke to us in New York — to Joseph Smith, Jr. about 200 years ago. Well, perhaps God AND science speak to us every day. You can cling to yesterdays doctrine or be open to new knowledge, wisdom and truth. It is all a state of being. I choose to be open.Posted September 5, 2013 8:20 pm
Old Yank.., The only one making an ass of himself is you… Because you’re such a pompous and puffed up one.Posted September 5, 2013 8:12 pm
Quantum Physics also postulates: “The movement of particles is inherently random. It is physically impossible to know both the position and the momentum of a particle at the same time.”
So it is not possible to measure every explosion that ever happened in space. We don’t know for sure if the big bang is unique among explosions or not.Posted September 5, 2013 8:09 pm
Mass cannot be created or destroyed… Therefore something existed before the big bang. The big bang was merely another act of creation like many other acts man cannot yet comprehend.
We have not yet figured out the higgs boson… Why do you need to understand everything right away??? I believe we won’t understand everything until Judgment Day.
You’re not God. Therefore it isn’t possible to understand everything—and we don’t need to.Posted September 5, 2013 8:00 pm
If there’s gravity present yes… Without gravity there’s no reason for instant slow down you dummy.Posted September 5, 2013 7:59 pm
Old Yank.., Then why do you choose to do that?Posted September 5, 2013 7:49 pm
TARK — Remaining ignorant as a choice is one of the saddest things on earth to witness.Posted September 5, 2013 7:45 pm
De Lima I. — Well said. And should some primal substance resembling a soul survive it all, so be it. If not, so be it. I have great difficulty grasping what “existed” before the big bang. Science theorizes that all matter and energy that ever existed or was ever banged into existence was contained in a package so small that it had no dimensions — time did not exist. It was not even the notion of some tiny pregnant dot suspended in the emptiness of a void, because a dot is too big and a void has theoretical dimension and therefore not even a void existed — NOTHING existed but everything contained in something without dimension. And then, bang…EVERYTHING existed that will ever exist in terms of energy and matter. From nothing, something. For some it is mind blowing. For me it connects me to a dimensionless soul that at once is everything and nothing; at once is the beginning and the end. And ultimately is The Great I Am. Oh, for me there are only three absolutes: Something Greater then myself exists; I can love; I can accept love. EVERYTHING else, no matter how strongly I might express an opinion, is subject to challenge.Posted September 5, 2013 7:44 pm
Old Yank.., I really don’t care about guesses.. You can guess that distant universes are expanding our universe at an ever expanding rate.. Better to stick with facts..
We know that the big bang was very powerful. We can judge how powerful it was by the expanding universe and how fast it is gaining momemtum. It is not gaining momentum in a disorganized fashion. Therefor it is logically being propelled outward from the original big bang at accelerating rate which is outpacing the ability of gravitational force to ever pull it back from which it began.
That’s what we know… We can theorize that Mother Goose is up there really high in the sky making cookies somewhere … and making this all happen… That is not as fantastic as many of the theories I’ve read about multiple dimensions and multi-verses.Posted September 5, 2013 7:43 pm
De Lima I.
Anonymous — Yes, actually both posts, because “Well said TARK” is pretty much all you can say. Unfortunately, it is like Joseph Herron, Supreme Court and Turbo Hamster have said :
“Man, you debate merely for the sake of debate.
You’re one of those guys who doesn’t listen to what anyone else is saying in context, and merely waits for your turn to write and disagree.”Posted September 5, 2013 7:21 pm
Tark…and that from a man who wrote: Ernie die and GTH!!!Posted September 5, 2013 6:47 pm
Unempirical theories = pseudoscience = newage antifaith based religion
For instance, no empirical evidence that bacteria evolves into anything but the same kind of bacteria and no empirical evidence that a universe evolves into other universes.Posted September 5, 2013 5:36 pm
L0L!! You hit that nail square on the head! “Tark you are way out of date with your science — a dinosaur!“Posted September 5, 2013 5:35 pm
Sad but truePosted September 5, 2013 5:11 pm
De Lima I.
Green: There will come a time when all of us are dead. All of us. There will come a time when there are no human beings remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything. There will be no one left to remember Aristotle or Cleopatra, let alone you. Everything that we did and built and wrote and thought and discovered will be forgotten and all of this will have been for naught. Maybe that time is coming soon and maybe it is millions of years away, but EVEN IF we survive the collapse of our sun, we will not survive forever. There was time before organisms experienced consciousness, and there will be time after.Posted September 5, 2013 4:41 pm
TARK — From Scientific American, please google “New Physics Complications Lend Support to Multiverse Hypothesis”. It is from June of this year and it is not a collection of crackpots looking to make a name for themselves. Again, you are out of date, out of step and stuck on stupid. Advancements in quantum, particle and other sciences have been huge since 2000. The possibilities are endless and the more science learns the more we accept that the possibilities are endless. For example science now suspects that in order to explain all that is physically observed, we may need as many as 11 dimensions to do so. Why would you be stuck in three dimensions with time when it is becoming increasingly obvious that what exists is not bound by our physical limitations?Posted September 5, 2013 4:23 pm
The sun will burn out…Posted September 5, 2013 4:07 pm
IN ADDITION — and this can be tiresome when those “listening” have already made up their minds [TARK] (something a true scientist virtually never does)…theories that the universe is just one of many in a multi-verse system, gives rise to some of the explanations about “dark energy” (energy where no current consensus explanation of where is comes from exists – SEE: particle and string theory). These “new” theories say that OUR universe, following the big bang, is accelerating in its expansion because the “bang” is being assisted by the pull of distant universes in a multi-verse system – essentially an explanation that “dark energy” is not of our universe, but a force from universes beyond our ability to see them – even outside of dimensions that we can “see” – like the human ear cannot hear what a dog’s ear can – human “reach of vision and science” cannot see what exists beyond the limits of the dimensions of our physical existence – physical existence is the route of all physics and is limited by the dimensions known to our limited physical experiences . So it is possible that eventually our universe will be completely absorbed by other universes that expand and contract – oscillate from and between cycles of “big bangs” and “big crunches”. And it is possible that “dark energy” will become negative or lessen to the point where gravity becomes the greater of these two forces. The possibilities are endless and the theories are as well. And theories are just that – theories. And science has NOT proven that our universe will expand forever until all energy burns out and a great dark nothingness is all that remains.Posted September 5, 2013 4:01 pm
DE LIMA Your previous post was meant ironically..or not? L0LPosted September 5, 2013 3:55 pm
TARK….that’s nothing but fantasy…You can believe in god, but none of us KNOWS God.Posted September 5, 2013 3:10 pm
Tark. Wtf has this got to do with the subject. There is no god…its just physicsPosted September 5, 2013 2:57 pm
Dino asks.., “Who or what is God?” … He’s the author of the universe who the world’s main faiths all worship. I’ll list a couple basics of Christianity—the faith more humans follow than any other.
God is the Supreme Being who created everything visible and invisible.
He’s eternal, meaning He always was and always will be.
He’s all knowing, including everything that has happened and will happen.
He’s all powerful, meaning no feat is beyond his strength or scope.
He cannot deceive or be deceived.
He is all good, all loving, and all just—but also all merciful and forgiving for folks who repent. How often will God forgive us? At least 777 times—since that is the number Christ gave to the Publican who asked, “If I forgive my brother 7 times is that enough?” … Guess not.
He embodies 3 divine persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
He lives in Heaven, an infinitely large domain of great beauty and majesty.
He created angels and archangels to share Heaven with Him.
God created Earth for humankind to mature into glorified beings, so they might also become like angles and share Heaven with Him—much like the womb matures fetuses into seeing, breathing, and progressing babies.
God created Hell to eternally punish humans and angles who reject His love and authority. Satan—once an elite archangel named Lucifer—is God’s chief antagonist. Also known as the devil—Satan seeks followers for the domain of Hell. Satan is envious of God and plots in vain to overthrow His kingdom. Satan is allowed to exist in order to divide good folks from evil doers. We were all gifted with a free will—to freely choose God or Satan as we like.
The way to God is a narrow and rocky road paved with love of God, love of humankind, generosity, diligence and sacrifice. The road to Hell is paved with wrath, greed, envy, covetousness, pride, gluttony, lust, sloth, and other vices … That’s the short answer.Posted September 5, 2013 2:54 pm
God himself is not knowable but merely exists as an idea of reason.Posted September 5, 2013 1:15 pm
Jesus our Creator came to his disciples so that we could know more about HimPosted September 5, 2013 1:05 pm
Tark: Who or what is God?Posted September 5, 2013 11:56 am
De Lima I.
Again — well said TARK. As I’ve said before, your knowledge is incredible.
It’s unbelievable.Posted September 5, 2013 11:13 am
God made man smart enough to know Him.Posted September 5, 2013 10:52 am
De Lima I.
“God” cannot be described by human language — or known by the human intellectual mind.Posted September 5, 2013 8:38 am
De Lima I.
TestPosted September 5, 2013 8:37 am
R.I.P. TommyPosted September 5, 2013 4:27 am
But I believe in God… The proof is there if you’re objective and interested.
Crap about muiltiverses and many universes existing in the same time and place, and in different dimensions, is stuff of fantasy.
People are always coming out with ideas that will get their name out there… Any crackpot can come up with an outlandish theory.Posted September 5, 2013 1:15 am
Old Yank.., You don’t know what you’re talking about.. We’re not talking about theories.. The universe HAS been expanding since the big bang and will continue to do so forever.
This is well known.. The reason scientists know this is because they found out the universe is expanding at ever increasing speed … and it’s expanding too fast for gravity to ever reverse the progress of expansion. This has been known for years. The expansion retraction theory doesn’t hold water any more. It’s been ditched long ago.Posted September 5, 2013 1:11 am
Old yank theory is not law, not even close, especially when it is contrived by these feverish new age religious theories.
Occam’s razor indicates that explosions lead to disorder and that God’s bang created our finely tuned universe; anything else is faith based pseudoscience.Posted September 4, 2013 10:04 pm
Neil.., “God, no matter what religion, is a creation of man’s ignorance.”
Objectively, you can say God has been proven to exist.
There have been many thousands of profound medical miracles performed after people prayed to departed individuals. Hundred of these miracles have gotten professional confirmation from many doctors. Doctors who testified there was no possible cure except for divine intervention. This was done to follow the processes of declaring the sainthood of a departed holy person.
This is the process by which people, praying to departed figures of great faith and holiness, for divine intervention, become cured from terminal diseases—in a way that astounds their doctors, family members, and friends. These cases are rigorously pursued for years before they’re confirmed—to make sure there is no other explanation except divine intervention for the cure.
Two be declared a saint, a departed person must have 2 confirmed miracles. Many saints have been declared and that’s why I believe divine intervention is happening.
I’m a very skeptical person.
I was the holdout on a couple hung juries and I haven’t been called since. I was a conscientious objector during the Viet Nam War as a young marine. I never believed Iraq had WOMD. I knew the economic collapse of 2008 was coming and didn’t believe a word Alan Greenspan or Ben Bernanke said about lending practices, the housing bubble or banking practices.
But I believe in God… The proof is there if you’re objective and interested.Posted September 4, 2013 5:02 pm
Old Yank.., “Expansion of the universe followed by collapse, followed by another big bang.”
Nice theory.., but that cannot happen. Scientists have proven that the universe will continue expanding forever. That means everything that physically exists, that we have any knowledge of, will continue expanding forever until it disperses into nothingness.
It’s been about 2 decades since astrophysicists found this out.Posted September 4, 2013 4:14 pm
“big bang”Posted September 4, 2013 2:25 pm
If infinity exists as more than a concept, then everything will be repeated an infinite number of times – inhale and exhale – expansion of the universe followed by collapse, followed by big bank — repeated at random or repeated via intelligent design – it all has been and will be again. Any way or either way, I expect to get another shot at this thing called life and will have no clue then about my prior infinite incarnations any more than I do now.Posted September 4, 2013 2:24 pm
Rest in peace, Tommy. Good entertaining fighter who had some big wins, the best being his display against big George for the WBO title, who was still dangerous and always as strong as an ox, and his stoppage of Razor Ruddock. Let’s also remember his heart in wins over Joe Hipp and Carl Williams. God bless, Tommy.Posted September 4, 2013 1:45 pm
For anyone to say, I know for a fact there is no God is a silly thing to say, even for a carl segan or any bright scientist mind simlply because they can not prove it. Its just their opinion and thats all, we tend to belive them beause they have a science back ground. Its just their opinion not fact.Posted September 4, 2013 12:51 pm
Nobody knows if there is or isnt a God for fact as in a scientist setting, nobody can prove either way that there is alien life forms in the universe until it has been reserched by every inch of the universe and that is imposible. To say there is no God is a stupid thing to say because theres no way to prove it and nobody can really know. nobody can prove in labrtory setting that there is. Because there is so much unknown, smart people are open to all possibilitys.Posted September 4, 2013 12:45 pm
live-and-let-live.Posted September 4, 2013 12:31 pm
… and RIP Tommy ….. he may have died young but I better he fitted in more life and enjoyment into the 44 years than most of us will fill it with 88 years of life (if we are that lucky to live that long). The only people who can look down on people who use drugs are those that dont do anything including alcohol. Alcohol is more dangerous than 95% of all illegal drugs.Posted September 4, 2013 12:28 pm
Turb0-H@mster has it right ……. god, no matter what religion, is a creation of mans ignorance. Even if there was such a thing as a supreme being, which i seriously doubt, it would have no relevance to any man-made-religion past or present. In a few thousand years people will look back at our beliefs (of today) and consider them in same way we do the many gods of Rome, Greece or Eygpt.Posted September 4, 2013 12:01 pm
De Lima I.
Well said TARK.Posted September 4, 2013 10:50 am
The cause of death is required to be on a death certificate. Often when the cause is related to an illness or condition, that illness or condition is listed as well. His family is grieving. Eventually they may choose to become active in productive roles regarding his cause of death. These are private choices for them to make and, in my opinion, no judgements regarding their choices are fair. HIV/AIDS denial is not unique. If his death was related to HIV/AIDS, it would be my hope and prayer that his family speak out against HIV denial when their voices can be loudly heard in the coverage of Tommy’s death. At this moment in time, the public service power of their voices could be huge!Posted September 4, 2013 10:22 am
WHO IS TARK, AND DOES HE TAKE IT UP THE TRAP DOOR.Posted September 4, 2013 10:20 am
The HIV record for Morrison is fairly clear. After testing positive twice many people close to him urged (if not begged) him to seek treatment. Tommy did his own research on HIV and concluded that it was a conspiracy and that it was a hoax. And as Tommy was known to do, once he made up his mine, it was made up. So he ignored the positive results. We know what happened to so many, many people who did not or could not seek treatment because they either could not afford it or because treatment was not yet available — they all died young — just as Tommy died young. Technically no one dies from HIV — they die from some complication or disease that could not be overcome because of HIV or AIDS – -they die of respiratory failure or heart failure or a rare disease or complication that gives the family a cause of death that can avoid a discussion about HIV or AIDS. Tommy was a great entertainer in the ring and out of the ring. I don’t think he or the family should carry any stigma about what led to his early death. He lived his life his way, accepting what he could and rejecting what he had to. May he rest in peace.Posted September 4, 2013 10:04 am
Attention Jeff Sorby,
Just for the record, Tommy Morrison’s HIV diagnosis was reassessed as negative back in 2007. I was on the basis that his test results were negative that he was allowed to continue his boxing career. There is nothing more hateful than when attention is brought to a dark place in someone’s life especially when only half of the fact is mentioned.Posted September 4, 2013 7:45 am
R.I.P. Tommy “The Duke”…Posted September 4, 2013 6:18 am
We realize it because Jesus changed us, answers our prayers, conquers the devil, designed all the creatures from earth particles, and exposes evil government religion such as Mother Earth war goddess selection of primordial soup spaghetti monsters, favored races, etc…Posted September 4, 2013 1:10 am
It’s Me, Ernie
God is a Tier Two poster…Posted September 3, 2013 11:50 pm
TARK….so you gradually realised there was a god based on what exactly?
I don`t think I know everything.
However to this point noone can provide even the most rudimentary objective evidence to answer to the god question, and holy scripture of all faiths is full of error, contradiction and crazy bat$h1t rubbish like talking bushes, flying horses, and jew-zombies.
Noone knows what happens when you die.
When you don`t know, just say you don`t know, don`t make $h1t up.
“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” – Mark TwainPosted September 3, 2013 11:23 pm
I love you tommyPosted September 3, 2013 11:04 pm
R.I.P Tommy you gave us some spectacular KO’sPosted September 3, 2013 10:31 pm
Tommy still had that KO left hook right to the end. He was born with it, and died with it.
“Yeah that Yuri Vaulin fight was on the Holyfield/Foreman undercard, Larry. That was sort of interesting in that Ring magazine did a piece on Yuri since he was one of the first Russians included in what is now a global sport.” – Yes, Tommy scored an easy KO of Vaulin, who I read was seen in the casino drunk and gambling afterwards. The Iron Curtain had only recently been lifted and the former Soviet fighters had some hype, but most of them were busts. It’s sure a different world now.Posted September 3, 2013 4:44 pm
R.I.P. HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION TOMMY MORRISONPosted September 3, 2013 4:38 pm
Supreme Court knows TARK’s linguistic print through keen observation and discriminating language, parlance, phrasing style, and dialect skills.
He will not be fooled by imposters.Posted September 3, 2013 4:13 pm
Looks like he put people in harm’s way knowinglyPosted September 3, 2013 3:03 pm
My condolences go to Tommy Morrison’s family. I recently lost my Mother from Cancer and I knew how much it hurts to lose a loved one. Morrison, please reborn and be another great boxing champion again! We will miss you!Posted September 3, 2013 2:39 pm
It was fun watching Tommy as a prospect. All of his fights were filled with action. Even the Mercer fight was something to behold. If Mercer didn’t have the granate chin he had at the time, Tommy would have folded him… It’s too bad things turned bad for Morrison. He made some poor choices, but many of us do. I remember he stated that when he was on top, he was filled to the gill with PED’s. That statement kind of made me think to myseld, who wasn’t and who isn’t…Posted September 3, 2013 2:13 pm
Lets not take the focus off Tommy. Those who want people to get distracted by saying something bad about Tommy or talk about something else are attention whores.Posted September 3, 2013 2:05 pm
ironic how he beat foreman when george was 44 and dies himself at same agePosted September 3, 2013 1:56 pm
Suprеmе go f..k уou
Any one who believes this has been TARK is one member of the herd of uneducated Average-Joes who roam around ESB….
(Seul les ignares ne savent pas reconnaitre les leurs…)Posted September 3, 2013 12:53 pm
ТАRK уou аrе bаstаrd
I’ll never forget on tv before one of Tommy’s fights they had a preview of him a up and coming new fighter. It was exciting. It showed the American flag behind his name. It was kind of patriotic. Tommy was undefeated then. A new hope in the division. RIP Tommy you were a good fighter.Posted September 3, 2013 11:48 am
Unfortunately, Morrison was in denial about HIV and unlike Magic Johnson wouldn’t take his medicine.Posted September 3, 2013 10:58 am
Guess he had HIV aids the whole time, he didn’t look particularly healthy and obviously he was badly sick the whole time. Wow how did magic johnson make it so far, maybe he is just a carrier and it isn’t attacking him anymore?Posted September 3, 2013 10:42 am
I’аm bаd pеrson mу brothеr dеаd fеw уеаrs аgo 21 аgе fаthеr stаrt to drink аlot bеаt me mу mothеr diе from strokе lаst уеаr….Posted September 3, 2013 10:06 am
RIP champ.Posted September 3, 2013 9:54 am
Jack the Mad Dog ….. he had more class than you whether he took drugs or not.Posted September 3, 2013 9:53 am
Jаck уou аrе mеntаlу
I love you tommyPosted September 3, 2013 9:23 am
Morrison achieved more in his chosen career than most people will in theirs, including the few sad haters that have sprung up. He was always entertaining, always gave it 100%, and had some very good wins. RIP.Posted September 3, 2013 9:19 am
Met Tommy morrison personally. A very nice person. Sad to see him go.Posted September 3, 2013 9:19 am
RIP Tommy. Very good fighter. Great entertainer and got more living done in 44 years then most of us would in 88 years.Posted September 3, 2013 8:36 am
Jаck “thе mаd dod”
Talked to Tom several times and despite his personal demons he was a great guy that would take the time out to talk with anyone. The man had a passion for the sport that brought him his fame. He was dealt a life changing illness that NO ONE deserves. Rest in Peace Tom. I will miss you brother.Posted September 3, 2013 8:03 am
I was shocked at the news. More so because it shows how fast time goes by. It seemed like yesterday watching him fighting. RIP Tommy…Posted September 3, 2013 7:57 am
Very sad to see someone pass on so young. Morrison fought the big names and had some good wins. Rest in peace, Tommy.Posted September 3, 2013 7:56 am
Rest easy warrior for your courage and valor within that squared circle. Cowards who wouldnt have dared face you may levy their comments, but now, no more fighting…..the record books will show YOU WERE HERE. Thank you and strength to your loved ones for the loss.Posted September 3, 2013 7:47 am
THERE IS AN OLD SAYING we should all live by and that is to NOT SPEAK ILL OF THE DEAD…
IRONICALLY in the latest issue of Boxing Monthly there is a piece on MERCILESS RAY MERCER and he says that when TOMMY MORRISON hit him to the body he actually farted a couple of times, he was hit so hard!!!!
He added it was a real rough night for him, but he came on when Tommy gassed after 4/5 rounds and was able to get the stoppage.
Only Wlad hit him harder!
My take on Tommy is that he is a CAUTIONARY TALE to all of us…. Be careful what you ask for, because you might just get it…. Meaning, Tommy was prepared to sacrifice everything to get to where he wanted life and that was QUICK….He wanted it now, and trained like a demon, fought like a demon and played life in the fast lane like a demon.
In no way am I judging Tommy, but life has a way of balancing the books on us and just like so many famous fighters and people in other walks of life there is a YING to balance our YANG!
By the first half of Tommy’s life he was a WBO Heavyweight Champion, beating a Great in BIG GEORGE FOREMAN and had played a starring role in Rocky V as TOMMY GUNN, but at the pinnacle of his career he was struck down by a terrible illness that closed the doors on him ever surpassing his feats in a flash!!!
But, Tommy showed his true fighting heart and spirit by fighting his disease and the authorities every step of the way and surely helped those in sport improve their own tests and safety procedures.
He fought to the end and that is truly what any gladiator would like to have on their tombstones!
I for one hope you rest in peace, free from any of us – the quick- judging you.
We all have both good points and bad. he difference is none of us, have them picked apart and dissected as we do not live in he public eye!
BOXING HAS LOST another one of its fighters!Posted September 3, 2013 7:47 am
Rip chаmp!- WВ0 chаpmPosted September 3, 2013 5:21 am
R.I.P CHAMP!Posted September 3, 2013 4:58 am
Hamster/TARK, you are not a boxing coach. You are an anonymous bipolar commenter.Posted September 3, 2013 4:46 am
Good vеrу good nеws
Rest In Peace TommyPosted September 3, 2013 4:24 am
Courage is being scared to death and saddling up anyway. John Wayne Morrison fought to the end. RIPPosted September 3, 2013 3:52 am
RIP Tommy. You gave us some great fights and you had such a BIG heart! You were a credit to boxing. We’ll be praying for you and your family,Posted September 3, 2013 3:45 am
Morrison had no formal training except street fighting. He only happened upon a touney one day after school and won. He then immediately went pro. If he had the early boxing culture, the excellent training and the amateur experience that most ATGs have, then Tommy would undoubtedly have been a ATG too.Posted September 3, 2013 3:37 am
Tommy Morrison’s fight with Razor Ruddock was awesome! I will never forget it, not just the fight, but the walk-in & music.
WATCHED that fight today ………..R.I.P ………….Tommy Morrison ……………Posted September 3, 2013 3:21 am
Tommy Morrison’s fight with Razor Ruddock was awesome! I will never forget it, not just the fight, but the walk-in & music.Posted September 3, 2013 2:55 am
You remember where you were 20 years before you were born? Well, that’s where Tommy is right now. Don’t talk to him directly because he won’t listen, but I know he had a good life because he focked a lot. He’s resting in peace and that’s the main thing.Posted September 3, 2013 2:30 am
TARK is not Hamster.
I am a suave, sophisticated, well educated young man about town in Sydney generally just wandering arond being awesome.
TARK is an argumentative 450 year old bisexual vampire boxing coach.
I am also not Gonzo, Gonzo is of the line of the Dragon god Bahamut, whilst I hail from the line of Hamster and 1.8L Twin turbo Engines from Audi.Posted September 3, 2013 2:03 am
I had a friend who died after a 3-year battle with cancer.. He went from a powerful 245 to 128. Some Sundays we used to talk for hours. He said he was glad he was going this way, so painful and slow, even though it was tough on his family and everyone around him.
I asked why. He said, “It balances the books. I had a lot of stuff on the wrong side of the ledger. I offered up all the pain and suffering from cancer for my sins and transgressions, and He let me know I’m going to be OK when I go.”Posted September 3, 2013 1:53 am
Wasn’t scared of a fight was TM.Posted September 3, 2013 1:43 am
Tark has a multiple disorder
Tark, why would anyone post as you? You are a disgrace and a shame to your race. You post as hamster and several other idiotic names but you write the same smelly stuff. You smell, bruda.Posted September 3, 2013 1:36 am
Hamster.., Hey, the man was in pain for years… Enough pain, humiliation, and physical deterioration to pay for a million sins.
Now the struggle is finally over and he’s in a better place. A place where every day is worth a thousand years anywhere else.Posted September 3, 2013 1:21 am
Sad.Posted September 3, 2013 1:14 am
ten bells for TOMMY. R.I.P. CHAMP.Posted September 3, 2013 12:58 am
Memoirs of a Nameless, you are a very sick dude. You need help and soon before you go out and do something bad.Posted September 3, 2013 12:34 am
And from the Heartland. Pure Americana!Posted September 3, 2013 12:33 am
An all American boy. Rest in Peace TommyPosted September 3, 2013 12:23 am
gone way to young RIP TommyPosted September 3, 2013 12:22 am
WoW so so sad!! R.I.P Tommy Morrison I truly enjoyed watching your fights, very entertaining Ill never forget your fight with Joe Hipp and razor ruddock fights and many more.Posted September 3, 2013 12:13 am
R.I.P ChampPosted September 3, 2013 12:05 am
Low Post 0ffense
T0mmy had a well contr0lled jab.
He could get that st.er0id n33dle into exactly the right sp0t.Posted September 3, 2013 12:02 am
Tommy may not have been the ATG but took himself to the top against the best of his day. For that, I credit him. He never did disappoint and will be missed. 44 is way too young to go.
RIP Tommy Morrison…Lived fast died young..Posted September 2, 2013 11:23 pm
it’s me Ernie, you are a foking moron. Shut your trap.Posted September 2, 2013 10:36 pm
Be with Jesus in Paradise Tommy. Your journey through this life is over, but your new one begins. We’ll miss you.Posted September 2, 2013 10:31 pm
Guy is dead less than a day and TARK is doing Gangnam-Style on his grave.Posted September 2, 2013 10:31 pm
I won`t pretend to be a massive fan of Tommy the person, but I have a hell of a lot of respect for Tommy the fighter, and that nasty, vicious, highlight reel, wake up 4 days later left hook.
RIP you crazy mutha.Posted September 2, 2013 9:51 pm
This writer tries to discredit Tommy. Pathetic. RIP TommyPosted September 2, 2013 9:34 pm
RIP Tommy, Man, I was just thinking about Tommy the other day. WOW, maybe this is why.Posted September 2, 2013 9:31 pm
RIP CHAMP!!!!Posted September 2, 2013 9:27 pm
RIP Tommy “THE DUKE” Morrison. Exciting fighter win or lose, he kept us all on the edge of our seats.Posted September 2, 2013 9:24 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
That’s a tough one. Gerry had a monster hook, I thought Kenny’s head was going to come off, but Tommie’s was very fast, powerful and had a lot of pop to it…Posted September 2, 2013 9:11 pm
I am shocked………..Rest in Peace Tommy…We loved youPosted September 2, 2013 9:10 pm
I’m sadPosted September 2, 2013 9:02 pm
God bless you, Champ, you always put on an exciting fight !Posted September 2, 2013 8:51 pm
Does anybody remember the Joe Hip fight? The Duke, broke his Jaw in the 4th round and broke his right hand in the 6th round. But he still was able to knock-out a tough B-level fighter (9th round). That fight took some heart and that 6th round war with always dangerous RR was one of the best heavyweight fights I ever saw. Almost as good as Foreman and Lyle.Posted September 2, 2013 8:48 pm
People that say bad things to someone like Tommy. Why didn’t u say things in front of his face when he was alive ? all cowardsPosted September 2, 2013 8:35 pm
The Pinoy Pikey
Alonzo: “He Wasn’t” Yes Sir. I agree. Proceed with respect and dignity….That is all I’m saying. However, he was a brother that accomplished more than I ever did in the square circle?1Posted September 2, 2013 8:33 pm
The Pinoy Pikey
Irregardless my friend.Posted September 2, 2013 8:24 pm
Pikey, this is also not the place to be self-righteous. First and foremost I gave my condolences. Later I remarked to a post by someone named Larry, not you. Third I gave further respect by stating the media was out of line for calling him something he wasn’t.Posted September 2, 2013 8:21 pm
The Pinoy Pikey
Alonzo. This aint the time or the place. The man passed awah–it’s about respect and condolences.Posted September 2, 2013 8:18 pm
At any rate I always hated the media for constantly calling Tommy the “Star of Rocky Five” and re-showing the Mercer knockout while simultaneously referring to this native Oklahoman and Native American (Indian) as a “White Hope”.Posted September 2, 2013 8:15 pm
Yeah that Yuri Vaulin fight was on the Holyfield/Foreman undercard, Larry. That was sort of interesting in that Ring magazine did a piece on Yuri since he was one of the first Russians included in what is now a global sport. It was a condescending piece making Russians appear to like America for apple pie and cheeseburgers.Posted September 2, 2013 8:14 pm
The Pinoy Pikey
Correctumundo—screw you KID!Posted September 2, 2013 8:09 pm
rest in peace TommyPosted September 2, 2013 7:24 pm
R.I.P. Tommy Morrison, you really had talent, I for one, thought you were going to be inthe big time for a long time. Again R.I.P.Posted September 2, 2013 7:21 pm
Rest in Peace my fellow Oklahoman.Posted September 2, 2013 7:20 pm
RIP, enjoyed watching your fights, a good man taken too young, condolences to your family.Posted September 2, 2013 7:17 pm
I rember Morrison.s fight with Ray Mercer as one of the most brutal unnecessary KO
I love you Tommy :) always
long time girlfriendPosted September 2, 2013 7:08 pm
Hey, That’s my Bike!!!
One of the best left hooks in the business. Exciting fighter lived it up too much and gone too soon.Posted September 2, 2013 7:07 pm
So long Tommy. Very good fighter. You were a credit to boxing and the White race! You made us proud.Posted September 2, 2013 7:04 pm
RIP, Tommy…Posted September 2, 2013 6:34 pm
Shut up you moronic impostor. This is no time for the crap. RIP to the Duke you will be remembered.Posted September 2, 2013 6:18 pm
Tommy you were a great warrior and a legend!! One of my favorite of all time! You accomplished so much with no amateur background. You came out of a tough man contest and started boxing!! The people you did fight and mainly the ones you lost to better be glad you didn’t have their experience or trainer and diisipline! Wow if you would have had that you would have smashed all of them to bits! You had lots of talent that we never got to see!! Well your up there with all the greats now!! Love ya bro!!!!!Posted September 2, 2013 6:09 pm
RIP. Sad day for boxing. This guy always entertained. RIP ChampPosted September 2, 2013 6:08 pm
Another warrior bites the dust. Tommy gave us fans some really exciting, entertaining bouts. RIP.Posted September 2, 2013 6:01 pm
I don’t see Tommy Morrison as a world champ – or Michael Bentt. Tommy had a good left hook and fought Lennox Lewis. You can’t take those two things away from him. Its an accomplishment to share a professional ring with Lewis.Posted September 2, 2013 5:54 pm
“I’ll never forget watching Morrison beat Foreman and stop Razor Ruddock. He was a really good HW with HUGE power in that left hook.” – Cosign Squared Circle. I was too young to bet fights back then but we drove up to Reno and had someone bet Morrison over Foreman at 2/1. And that Razor Ruddock bout was fireworks from start to finish. The sportsbook got as loud as a typical Tyson bout that night. Good times, and some of my fondest boxing memories were courtesy of Tommy Duke Morrison.Posted September 2, 2013 5:47 pm
Very sad rip tommy gunnPosted September 2, 2013 5:40 pm
RIP Tommy Morrison Heavyweight champion of the worldPosted September 2, 2013 5:39 pm
RIP to Tommy the Duke Morrison.Posted September 2, 2013 5:32 pm
The last posts from “me” aren’t… They’re imposters.Posted September 2, 2013 5:24 pm
testPosted September 2, 2013 5:23 pm
A sad day for boxing fans, Tommy Morrison was a fighter that was willing to trade bombs with anyone…….well all except Foreman (but then again can’t really blame him). I will remember Tommy for his fight with Mercer, an exciting fight that ultimately swung Mercer’s way.
RIP Champ!!! Huge left hook and some memorable fights.Posted September 2, 2013 5:12 pm
The last videos showing morrison he looked like a walking corpse literely. But he still was fighting. Must people would have shoot themselves. May you rip morrisonPosted September 2, 2013 5:12 pm
Sad to hear, fought his heart out, while limited in some aspects, became a champion beating George Foreman. Had demons like many people do and made some human mistakes. May he rest in peace.
R.I.P. CHAMPPosted September 2, 2013 5:08 pm
If they make a movie about his life, half the movie will be about focking and the other half about boxing. RIP.Posted September 2, 2013 5:00 pm
Never forgot when Tommy fought that skinny Russian truck driver. Yuri I think his name was. It was the first challenge for Tommy. Tommy hit him with a tummy shot and that ended it.Posted September 2, 2013 4:58 pm
The guy was legend, full stop. Nobody can say Tommy Morrison didn’t fight with a mixture of power, tenacity and heart that is rare to the extreme. He was also a great guy and a man, very human, who made some mistakes.
Please, all you haters out there leave it out. Any man who has ever laced on a glove knows what Morrison was all about, and armcahir fights – losers – shouldn’t comment on something they know nothing about: being a warrior.
Morrison was a warrior.
MAY YOU CARRY ON FIGHTING ON THE OTHER SIDE WITH ALL THE OTHER LEGANDS OF THE RING … THAT’S WHERE YOU BELONG!Posted September 2, 2013 4:55 pm
God bless Tommy Morrison. Enjoyed watching him fightPosted September 2, 2013 4:52 pm
Miller Fisher Syndrome/Guillain Barre Syndrome is what people are saying killed him…but according to medical sites, that disease can come from complications from HIV patients…Posted September 2, 2013 4:44 pm
Very sad. He had some bad breaks. When he did fight, he fought his heart out. That he managed to come back at all from the Mercer KO is a testament to his courage. RIP.Posted September 2, 2013 4:43 pm
It is not unreasonable to assume Tommy died from complications related to HIV — all other causes are not potentially embarrassing to the family and would be stated. Perhaps his sin was knowing what he had contracted (it makes no difference from where — dirty steroid needle, dirty drug needle, unprotected sex or accident of transfusion), and attempting to sue his way back into the ring exposing others. But these are things for the pundits to write about in the coming days and weeks. For now a man who entertained us is gone and may he rest in peace. I hope a cat fight does not break out at his funeral like it did at Hector Camacho’s wake. Boxers have a way of retaining their entertaining colors ’till the bitter end.Posted September 2, 2013 4:40 pm
Sal the Butcher
Killing Moon The Soothsayer , why Tark, of course.Posted September 2, 2013 4:37 pm
Aesop….as if only dirty ho have HIV. Idiot.Posted September 2, 2013 4:18 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Not a fan by a longshot…..But what kind of low-life shows up to a funeral to piss on a grave of a 44-year old ex-boxer….Who by the way gave alot of people the time of their life in the 80s and 90s….Take a good long look in the mirror…douche-bag.
R.I.PPosted September 2, 2013 4:15 pm
…and the moral of the story is that you should never screw a dirty ho without a condomPosted September 2, 2013 4:14 pm
TARK is a disgrace
Who do you think you are to give considerations? You have already polluted the thread with your usual sick vomit. Your mock apology is an insult.Posted September 2, 2013 4:10 pm
R.I.P Tommy , many good memories watching your fights. Thank you.Posted September 2, 2013 4:10 pm
Ok, I’ve given some consideration to the many commenters that have villified the position I have taken viz Tommy. I would like to apologise to them all. I believe I went too far and on this day I want to extend my sincere condolences to Tommy’s family. Tommy was a man with demons but I have my own too. Peace.Posted September 2, 2013 3:56 pm
TommyMorrison, was a talented , offenseivly , power, hand speed, combination punching. Know for his left hook. His right was underated. To bad his chin, defense and stamina didn’t come close to his offensive skills, otherwise he would have been a special heavywieghtfighter. He definately payed his due in the fight game despite the great whitehope, and grandnephew of JohnWayne tag atatched toTM. You will be missed TommyMorrison RIP.Posted September 2, 2013 3:45 pm
Sal the Butcher
Tark, save your swill for another thread you sewer ratPosted September 2, 2013 3:43 pm
1 Peter 5:6-7
Everybody has said it.
RIP Tommy.Posted September 2, 2013 3:29 pm
I so mad right now I cant spell or think, what a disrespectful peice of garbage you are tark.Posted September 2, 2013 3:15 pm
Tark, the thing people are try n to tell you, is right after a human being fie s isnt the best gime to start picking aprt their fight game, yeah you may be rascist I dont knoe forsure, bug I know you r f n stupid that I know. Tommy could box very well and had power and skills. Lets have this ddbate after a month retard.Posted September 2, 2013 3:13 pm
Sad to hear this, Morrison was an exciting talent and had some good fights still in him before his career got curtailed. His life and career was an intresting one and his fights will live on forever.Posted September 2, 2013 3:11 pm
The thing that saved Magic Johnson was, he is rich enough to get periodic full blood and lymph fluid transfusions…which can cost millions depending on how complete and comprehensive they are.
You cool the body, slow down the heart severely, use saline solutions to cleanse the vessels, and put fresh, uninfected whole blood and lymph fluid into the body. He’ll probably live a long time if he can keep enduring the procedures.Posted September 2, 2013 3:11 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
RUFFKNIGHT, That was a brawl and a half, I just re-watched it a few weeks ago on youtube after seeing the Boss ringside at some televised bouts from Washington state. Haven’t seen a heavyweight bout that exciting in many years…Posted September 2, 2013 3:03 pm
One hell of a fighter and one of the most entertaining punchers on top of that. Here’s a man who was never in a dull fight. He was a contender in the second most competitive decade in heavyweight history. Enough said! All the best to his family and friends.Posted September 2, 2013 3:02 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
R.I.P Morrison. In my opinion, his best fight was against George Foreman, whom he beat via 12-round Unanimous Decision. Morrison died because of respiratory acidosis, metabolic acidosis and multiple organ failure. Some tidbits of information: When Foreman lost to Morrison, he was 44. When Morrison died, he was, coincidentally, also 44 years old. Morrison died yesterday, September 1, 2013. If Rocky Marciano were alive, he would have completed 90 years of life yesterday.Posted September 2, 2013 2:55 pm
I fell sad when I know that Tommy has left us. I will Always remember his exciting fighting style and fights. Rest in Peace, Tommy.
BjörnPosted September 2, 2013 2:53 pm
R.I.P TM. His bout with Joe Hipp is among my favorites.Posted September 2, 2013 2:51 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
I’ll never forget watching Morrison beat Foreman and stop Razor Ruddock. He was a really good HW with HUGE power in that left hook, but just wasn’t elite. His fights were always exciting and they gave you the feeling that someone would get KO’s at any second.
I remember watching an interview with Morrison in which he admitted to drinking and partying way too much in the early to mid 90′s. He also implied that he had been promiscuous and slept with way too many women, and as it turns out, it appears that one of them infected him with HIV. But then there were reports that he had tested negative for HIV at least a few times over the years.
So, I guess we don’t know 100% for sure about the cause of his death. But I read an article about him a few years back in which in the interviewer said that TM was covered with Kaposi’s Sarcoma (i.e., AIDS lesions). It’s so sad to see a young, talented fighters lose his career over a disease and then parish at such a young age. RIP.Posted September 2, 2013 2:51 pm
As for Tommy’s HIVE derailing his career, it was sad he got struck with HIV right after signing with Don King with a Tyson fight on tap. He’d have lost that one but it would be crazy fireworks while it lasted and a huge payday that would’ve gotten him through the later stages of his life. Say what you want about his talent, he was always entertaining win or lose and had one of the best left hooks I ever saw at heavyweight.Posted September 2, 2013 2:42 pm
Tark, the man just died. Show some respect, grow up and if youve nothing nice to say, keep ur fat gob shut. Are you about 3 years old or something?
RIP Duke, you will be sorely missedPosted September 2, 2013 2:37 pm
tark, You’ve been exposed as a liar and a poser by your own comments. That’s not the worst part, the worst is you have no idea what boxing is about. You think boxing is an Internet course you’ve taken but you missed too many lessons. You lie so often you get entangled in your own BS. You’ve been busted as an ignorant hater beyond doubt, the evidence is provided by your anxious baloney. You are not that important so that I start quoting, but the contradictions and improbable exaggerations tell the story. You train hundreds of boxers, you read hundred political articles a day, perhaps you think you are Napoleon Bonaparte? I am not even having fun exposing an obvious pretentious hater with fragmentary misunderstood info about the sport. You are fooling no one except yourself.Posted September 2, 2013 2:29 pm
Sad very sadPosted September 2, 2013 2:29 pm
RIP Champ!Posted September 2, 2013 2:28 pm
So sad to see such a life pass so soon! Hopefully he’s now at peace. RIP!Posted September 2, 2013 2:27 pm
Shame for him and his family, he was a good fighter, maybe not the very top elite, but so few are.Posted September 2, 2013 2:27 pm
Sad to see anyone pass away so soon .. RIPPosted September 2, 2013 2:27 pm
There ought to be at least a TV movie made about his story.Posted September 2, 2013 2:22 pm
Sad news, indeed. R.I.P., Tommy Morrison.Posted September 2, 2013 2:19 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn
Sad news. I was never a massive fan but I always enjoyed watching him fight. He always gave fans their money’s worth and he possessed one of the most destructive and powerful punches the heavyweight division has ever seen. That left hook of his could’ve dropped an elephant and I remember gasping in awe at some of those brutal KOs and KDs he scored throughout his career. I’m sure he would’ve achieved even more if it wasn’t for his out of the ring exploits too. I never like Ray Mercer after watching that sickening KO he scored over Morrison. I always thought that it was disgusting the way he kept repeatedly teeing off on him with brutally hard flush shot after shot after it was as clear as day he was out.
RIP.Posted September 2, 2013 2:17 pm
R.I.P Tommy, he would KO anyone he hit flush on the whiskers. Another sad story. Prayers for family and loved ones.Posted September 2, 2013 2:14 pm
RIP Tommy Morrison. He may not have been an elite fighter, but he was a fighter that made a little noise, and most boxing fans enjoyed watching his fights. He had good skills, punched hard and always gave his all. He made to the Rocky sequels, so he did well in his careers. Too bad he had to deal with the demons in his personal life, All of us have battles to fight daily. Some of us find ways to overcome difficulties, and others aren’t so fortunate. God Bless Tommy Morrison and his family and friends.Posted September 2, 2013 2:09 pm
Super sad man. I first morrison when he fought wimpy halstead. He threw a two punch combo that sent haulstead legs in the air like he was giving birth. I thought he was cool because he always maintained he didnt have aids. May God watch over his family.Posted September 2, 2013 2:06 pm
Tark, you giving opinions about boxing and boxers is a disgrace to the sport. Keep ypur BS for boxing outsiders like you.Posted September 2, 2013 2:05 pm
Not only did they deny he had AIDS, they denied the HIV virus existed. If they had listened to science he could have been on anti-retrovirals and be living today, basically healthy like hundreds of thousands of others. Instead they chose to deny science and believe in some pseudo-science theory that hucksters told them, and he paid the price. Very sad.Posted September 2, 2013 2:04 pm
RIP Tommy. Poor guyPosted September 2, 2013 2:03 pm
A damed shame. He as an exciting and talented fighter. R.I.PPosted September 2, 2013 1:50 pm
Sorry to hear about Morrison’s passing. His wife is in denial though. He had HIV which most likely turned into full blown AIDS. This Gullain-Barre Syndrome is extremely uncommon and affects only 1 or 2 people per 100,000, according to the Mayo Clinic.Posted September 2, 2013 1:37 pm
Very sad day…He was great to watch and always did his best…RIP Duke!Posted September 2, 2013 1:36 pm
Hosteen.., Wilder fought Liakhovich. If he was faded, so were the champs Morrison fought.
They wouldn’t reveal the cause of Morrison’s death. My guess is he died from complications from HIV. Everyone knows the story of Tommy testing positive for HIV and losing his license. His career went the way of Joe Mesi’s—who was never the same after he was diagnosed with a hematoma on his brain.
They both fought 3 rate fighters after that … and went nowhere.
Morrison didn’t win a round from Lewis and never beat a good prime boxer.Posted September 2, 2013 1:35 pm
RIP Champ. Life was cruel to him.Posted September 2, 2013 1:34 pm
Too soon, Tommy.Posted September 2, 2013 1:30 pm
Fun and exciting fighter to watch against B-level opponents. What a left-hook. RIPPosted September 2, 2013 1:29 pm
Morrison & Mercer fought each other early on – Who has Wilder fought??Posted September 2, 2013 1:20 pm
R.I.P Tommy.Posted September 2, 2013 1:12 pm
tommy WAS BORN IN ARKANSAS GREW UP IN OKLAhoma rest in peace tommyPosted September 2, 2013 1:07 pm