Ernie, we need to sort this out man on man.
You should come to California, to my gym, you can enter through the backdoor and get in my ring.
You can get right in there for as long as you want – don`t worry it is big enough to handle you.Posted September 6, 2013 6:27 pm
Trout does not get the same credit for defeating Cotto coming DIRECTLY off a bruising loss as Floyd does for beating him coming off a win streak including a feel good stoppage of his nemesis Margarito… That’s just not how this works, besides Trout by his OWN admission is a BIG 154 pounder which is validated by his weighing OVER 170 coming into the ring… Floyd came up in weight to face Miguel and was the older boxer… These are all facts that easily piss on the assertions of ESB Dog, and Conspiracy Theorist Hidalgo aka “Mr Changing Stances”Posted September 6, 2013 12:35 pm
All this chatter and you guys are gonna sit there and watch another edition of the Floyd Mayweather show.. Act 1 Canelo and Floyd feel eachother out, meanwhile FMJ’s brain is processing Canelos habits at the speed of thought.. Act 2 Canelo trys to open up a bit and his rabid fans cheer the slightest motion as Floyd rolls his shots and smirks, while stabbing him with some slick counters (the announcers) give him undue credit, Act 3 Floyd starts landing the ring hand and whipping Canelos head around while never letting him set his cement feet.. Act 4 The right hands begin landing with Greater frequency while Alvarez is reduced to a plodding youngster walking around the ring looking confused and increasingly tired of getting smashed in the face, his interpreter spews his corners instructions which are desperate and false ie “hes getting tired” “you are too strong for him” “use your jab” in the end Canelo is swollen, defeated and 10 million dollars richer… Floyds hand is raised “he says Hard Work and Dedication” thanks his Dad and the “Money Team” while his detractors committ Mass suicide while blaming Kenny Bayless for not putting handcuffs on Mayweather… HaHaHa!Posted September 6, 2013 11:23 am
LOL @ funny TARK!!!
TARK…….Clever people can see that it’s definitely NOT Ernie!!!!Posted September 6, 2013 3:26 am
Idiot Earnie using my moniker again.Posted September 5, 2013 11:01 pm
Listen Gerbil err……Hissydalgo I don’t need to make Floyd’s performance more than it was. Compubox agrees with ME that Floyd’s Defense is BETTER than Trout’s. And Cotto’s wobbly legs agree with ME that Floyd’s a Bigger Puncher than Trout. And all EXPERTS agree with ME that Floyd is the BETTER Fighter…..On the night of September 14th Canelo will ALSO agree with ME on that.Posted September 5, 2013 10:40 pm
According to the “genial” public enemy you just need to weight a lot, lost that weight the day before the fight and rehydrate!!! Simple.. Thats the formula to be a stellar fighter. Why puerto rican fighter can not do that!!!!! How many stellar fighters puerto rico has right now? zero.Posted September 5, 2013 9:04 pm
Listen, Sybil, er…Boxtradamus, stop trying to make Mayweather’s performance against Cotto out to be more than it was. After watching the Mayweather/Cotto fight Trout openly stated he would not fight Cotto “the way Mayweather did.” Trout already had a plan and the real FACT is that he executed it better than Floyd did when he fought Cotto. Miguel Cotto is always ready for his opponents. As I said before he’s a very consistent fighter whether he’s wearing a championship belt or not. Trout did a better job against Cotto than Floyd did. That’s it.Posted September 5, 2013 8:06 pm
“Here goes Braggadamus with the “version” crap again.”-Nope. There I went with that version FACT again. The FACT is that facing a CHAMP is different from facing a NON CHAMP. Talk to someone that knows MUCH more about Boxing than YOU and they will agree with ME on that….not YOU.Posted September 5, 2013 7:27 pm
*baby OIL not baby pil. THAT would be sick.Posted September 5, 2013 7:14 pm
Annonymouse…I`m hiding in the closet for the time being.
You can come in here with me if you want, I`ve got two hundred illegal Vietnamese diet pills and a bottle of baby pil waiting….Posted September 5, 2013 6:25 pm
Where is the FUNNY TARK???? Want to LMAO!!!!!Posted September 5, 2013 2:51 pm
Excuse the spelling errors (this uses predictive text),
Tested at a later date
Gonzo the Dragonborn
His fans never shut up about him losing 25lbs of ”PURE MUSCLE” but oddly enough you never hear so much as a peep out of them when it comes to all the steroid stuff though, other than when they’re spewing unadulterated tripe defence of him when someone brings it up that is.
Posted September 5, 2013 6:23 am
IN THESE DAYS OF DNA testing advancements, why can’t we go back and retest the samples given to he boxing commissions where there are rumours and allegations of abuse.
Sadly, I think samples are destroyed once tested negative. I suggest samples are kept on file, especially if there are any kind of doubts about the results and can be Estes at a later date when scientific breakthroughs can identify any kind of tampering or adulteration.
It’s the only way to weed out these cheats, but oh, no! The commissions colluded in masking over e positive exults of the tests back in the day.
My suggestion is ONE STRIKE and you are out of there!
It’s the only way!Posted September 5, 2013 2:12 pm
“12 RDS WILL EVAPORATE AWAY….FRAUD WITH THE DECISION AND A TRACK MEET GOLD MEDAL AWARD… BOOORRRIIINNGG!! SAVE YOUR MONEY PEOPLE…” – Agree with your scenario, however we’re buying the PPV because of Matthysse vs Garcia, which is a legit PPV headliner in itself. GBP was pretty slick doing that.Posted September 5, 2013 1:19 pm
E in Denver
Hidalgo- Boxtra doesn’t understand a lot about the sport so he makes up his own version of the “facts” which is mostly just his uniformed opinion. You are correct, of the 3 Judah faced the most formidable version of Cotto. Cotto had taken 2 horrible beatings at the hands of Margarito & Pac before facing Jr, then Trout. Cotto didn’t take excessive punishment in the Jr fight as to noticeablPosted September 5, 2013 12:16 pm
“The MAIN problem ALL of Mayweather’s opponents have is the SAME problem ALL of Mayweather HATERS have…they ALL think Floyd is a bum, tomato can, fraud, charlatan, FAKE;”
This is totally untrue. Pre-fight hype is just that. Hype. Too bad Roberto Duran isn’t fighting today. He really would hate Floyd.Posted September 5, 2013 11:55 am
Like I said floyd will time and nail canelo repeatedly with that straight right and jab and his latest crafty weapon the sneak uppercut.canelo should have fought pacman instead but taking on floyd big big mistake!!!Posted September 5, 2013 9:35 am
The MAIN problem ALL of Mayweather’s opponents have is the SAME problem ALL of Mayweather HATERS have…they ALL think Floyd is a bum, tomato can, fraud, charlatan, FAKE; but he’s NOT, Floyd is the REAL DEAL!!
Canelo is already being CONDESCENDING and looking DOWN on Floyd, he thinks he’s going to throw a few HARD punches and Floyd is going to fall down!!
Canelo is BELIEVING all of his PRESS CLIPPINGS that he’s GREAT already after beating Matthew Hatton, Lovemore N’Dou, Alfonso Gomez and a 40 year old Carlos Baldomir!!
Canelo will be outclassed and STOPPED on September 14th!!Posted September 5, 2013 8:47 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
His private set of scales, ie. his bathroom ones said he was 199lbs or something.Posted September 5, 2013 6:24 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
His fans never shut up about him losing 25lbs of ”PURE MUSCLE” but oddly enough you never hear so much as a peep out of them when it comes to all the steroid stuff though, other than when they’re spewing unadulterated tripe defence of him when someone brings it up that is.Posted September 5, 2013 6:23 am
Gonzo the Dragonborn
The HBO official scale said Roy Jones weighed in at 193lbs for Johann Sebastian Ruiz, that’s 13lbs over the weight he was coming in at for some of his world middleweight title fights right back at the start oof his tenure as champ.Posted September 5, 2013 6:18 am
“Judah faced the Championship level version of Cotto and SO did Floyd…..but Trout never DID. ”
Here goes Braggadamus with the “version” crap again. Listen up twit: Miguel Cotto is a very consistent fighter whether he wins, loses or draws. Trout fought just as good a Cotto as Mayweather did. But, Judah fought a better one than both of them because Judah fought Cotto long before Margarito beat him down with his cheating wraps. That beating took something out of Miguel that he never got back.Posted September 5, 2013 2:27 am
The negative effect of losing weight is going to be determined by what it is you are losing.
There is a limit to how much fat you have in your body, and how low it can go while still functioning, and at some point you have to be talking muscle coming and going.
The problem is it is much easier to manage where and how you put muscle on, that it is how you take it off, and the processes by which your body decides to use muscle rather than glucose/glycogen or fat as a food source are not efficient, and not particularly “nice”.
My advice would be “If you can`t do it dropping fat and water, don`t do it at all”.
I accept the weight bouncing affected RJJ significantly, but given the nature of his style, he was never far from coming undone the moment his athletic gifts waned in any way.
It was what mad him compelling for me – what he would do simply couldn`t be done by someone at anything other than the top of their game mentally and physically.Posted September 5, 2013 1:24 am
TARK says….”particularly when you compare Cotto’s performances against Judah, who he stopped — and Trout, who beat the bejabbers out of Cotto.”-But he doesn’t mention to you that there’s a difference between facing Championship level Fighters and NON Championship level Fighters. Judah faced the Championship level version of Cotto and SO did Floyd…..but Trout never DID. …SO there is yet another NON parallel comparison. When Trout finally faced a CHAMP he got BEAT. But Floyd ha beaten 10 CHAMPS in his last 12 Fights WOW!!!! Facing Championship level Fighters and defeating them is nothing NEW for Floyd. But it WILL be for Trout. ….that is IF he ever DOES it.Posted September 5, 2013 1:12 am
Floyd’s didn’t blow up in weight and then tried to quickly take it off by destroying his body so I doubt Floyd shows up like a ghost. There is always a chance of being over-trained and having an “off-day”, especially at that age.
Now if you are saying “anything” can happen, Yes, I agree. It only takes one solid timed shot in boxing.
Floyd could always get caught int he exchange. That’s how a lot of ATG have been put on their ass.Posted September 5, 2013 12:44 am
There were a list of former fighters Freddie Roach mentioned after the Oscar fight of other top level fighters that did the same as Roy and Oscar with losing weight by coming back down division(s) and were never the same.
You just don’t do it the way they did it. Not at that age.
I thought Chris Byrd look the worst out of all of them. At least Roy’s Ghost was bouncing in and out of his body. Chris was just gone. He must have trained in one of those Polish training camps.Posted September 5, 2013 12:39 am
From the Cotto fight you can learn a little bit about Floyd’s reaction speed… If you’re patient and sharp with the jab you can pop Floyd straight in the snoot with a well timed jab.. Cotto is very experience and very relaxed — but he didn’t have the same success against Trout.
From the Mosley fight you can learn a little bit about catching Floyd with a right hander.. If your shot is as sharp as the one that floored Trout you have a good chance of catching Floyd with it also.
From the Judah fight you can learn a little bit about scoring a knockdown over Floyd.. You have to be pretty fast and tricky.. You have to be alert and get a well timed shot in there.. Canelo also showed he’s capable of doing this by being the only man who ever floored the slick boxing Austin Trout … who Cotto never came close to decking.
Could Floyd deck the 171-pound Trout? … Well, did Floyd deck Guerrero??? … Cotto??? … Mosley??? … Judah??? … Baldomir??? … De La Hoya??? Any fighter on Trout’s level???
To me, Trout would be very hard fight for Floyd — particularly when you compare Cotto’s performances against Judah, who he stopped — and Trout, who beat the bejabbers out of Cotto.Posted September 5, 2013 12:39 am
“The only thing Canelo can learn from the Cotto fight is how to lose”. Source fighthype dot comPosted September 4, 2013 11:55 pm
Yeah hard to lose 26lbs of muslce while you are kooking your goons off on the roids.Posted September 4, 2013 11:37 pm
The Jones fights are no comparison to this fight. Jones went to Heavy and then came back down having to lose 26lbs of muscle. That damaged him. He was never the same after that. It had nothing to do with Tarver, Johnson or Calzaghe. No comparison.Posted September 4, 2013 11:09 pm
Floyd stops Alavarez by the 10th easy fight!Posted September 4, 2013 11:02 pm
Daivid D,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so very very right. AMENPosted September 4, 2013 11:00 pm
Remember the “All Time Greatest ” ROY JONES? Yeah yeah, the fastest, smartest boxer, slick taunting bs artist….Tarver, Johnston and Calzaghe do!Posted September 4, 2013 10:56 pm
BUT, huge kick back in the rematch!!!!!Posted September 4, 2013 10:43 pm
Canelo beats down FMJ in later rounds, as father time catches up with, ” I am boxing”! Mayweather….nothing new in the historical world of boxing….in with the new out with the old!Posted September 4, 2013 10:42 pm
Floyd is gonna make BEATING Canelo look easy!!Posted September 4, 2013 10:10 pm
Sorry sport fans had a typo in my last, CORRECTION; if the ref does not control all the armlocking, then we are going to have a bore of a fight, bottom line is all the armbars is the way chumpweather controls the momentum of the other fighter. Hatton was allowed to do the same crapp his entire career until the holding was taken away then lights out times twoPosted September 4, 2013 9:55 pm
Looks like anouther holdem hitem run, holdem holdem some more, pop pop shot run. Canelo needs a KO to win. LV and the politics of this sport is not going to give Canelo the win even if it is by a 4 round margin. Show time has may to much invested in the peanut collector and they are going to safe guard it. Now, question lies with the ref. Will the ref control all the arm locks tearweather does. My guess is yes and if yes, then its going to be a bore of a fight. If Canelo can let loose on the ropes and holding weather is held to a minimum, lights out .Posted September 4, 2013 9:49 pm
Sal the Butcher
Tumbo will jizz all over the place if Canelo wins. Stand away from the monitor or you will get wet.Posted September 4, 2013 9:30 pm
Boo radley, te dumbo……. I’m backPosted September 4, 2013 9:20 pm
The Mad Scientist
Canelo has a pretty good defense himself but he’ll take responsible chances once he loses respect for Mayweathers punching power..just like some are banking on Canelo running out of gas, I’m banking on Mayweather not being able to put a serious dent on the bigger, stronger, hungry young lion..Posted September 4, 2013 8:55 pm
12 RDS WILL EVAPORATE AWAY….FRAUD WITH THE DECISION AND A TRACK MEET GOLD MEDAL AWARD… BOOORRRIIINNGG!! SAVE YOUR MONEY PEOPLE… TAKE THE FAMILY TO THE MOVIES AND SHARE SOME FAMILY TIME INSTEADPosted September 4, 2013 8:39 pm
The Mad Scientist
Without a doubt Canelo will bring his mexican pride and machismo into the ring and once he figures out Mayweather can’t hurt him the fight is up for grabs..Posted September 4, 2013 8:38 pm
Floyd will beat Canelo easier then he beat Victor Ortiz..Posted September 4, 2013 8:34 pm
“PREPRODUCTION?!” WTF? TRY HYPE JOB OF ALL TIME! I’M SO TIRED OF BOXING! KEEP FORKING OUT YOUR MONEY MORONS TO PUMP UP PPV!!Posted September 4, 2013 8:33 pm
The Mad Scientist
Canelo will impose his weight and strength advantage in this fight, the kid has the intelligence and the ability to do so watch..there is nobody in Floyd’s resume that would beat Alvarez at this moment but we’re suppose to belive Mayweather is making easy work of Kid Cinnamon even stopping him in the late rounds because some clowns say so..Lol!Posted September 4, 2013 8:32 pm
Cinnabum has to come in weighing his usual 174+lbs and develop the Boxing Skills of Miguel Cotto to even have a chance of surviving the fight.. otherwise Cinnabum gets TKO’d once he Gasses out like he did vs feather fisted trout..Posted September 4, 2013 8:12 pm
if floyd hasn’t aged too much, then he wins.(just has too many tools). however, if canelo can take mayweather’s shots in the early rounds, i predict a remafch.Posted September 4, 2013 7:21 pm
Canelo’s too slow footed, so no, not a real threat. To beat PBF you need a guy with fast hands and feet and great reflexes, workrate and stamina = you need a Jr.Middle version of RJJ or Joe Calzaghe. Thats why PBF ducked a prime Pacman, he had that speed, stamina, mobility and punch output.Posted September 4, 2013 6:45 pm
Oh boy, another potting shotting clinic. Can’t wait.Posted September 4, 2013 6:41 pm
Floyd by decision.too fast and will time canelo repeatedlyPosted September 4, 2013 5:56 pm
MONEY MAN, G.O.A.T. YOUR HAVING A LAUGH.Posted September 4, 2013 5:47 pm
By the way, Corrales was a head case, who had just come out of jail.Posted September 4, 2013 5:38 pm
“Greatest of All Time”! That honor is reserved for post career boasting…but okay, your opinion, but not so! Pick any or each decade from 1900 to date, and I’ll argue who was, and perhaps is, better than FMJ. Based on opposition, style and number of fights. And remember, losses do not qualify a boxers greatness…Posted September 4, 2013 5:34 pm
Yup. YOU agree with ME on that.Posted September 4, 2013 5:07 pm
Pot shotting CLINIC.Posted September 4, 2013 5:06 pm
Nope. It might resemble the Baldomir Fight though.Posted September 4, 2013 5:05 pm
Canelo WON’T be able to land a PUNCH on Mayweather!! This FIGHT WILL resemble the Chico Corrales FIGHT!!Posted September 4, 2013 4:50 pm
IF Floyd KO’s Canelo that would be a SHOCKER for ME. He just hurt his hand vs. Guerrero SO I doubt he’s going to put that extra mustard on his punches in THIS one. He’ll WIN it on points though.Posted September 4, 2013 4:49 pm
Sorry Boxtra, Roger was a puncher…Posted September 4, 2013 4:42 pm
Boxtra, what’s up?? Floyd was a puncher plain and simple, he didn’t fight in the Mayweather STYLE!!
Canelo PRESENTS the same PROBLEMS for Floyd that Chico Corrales PRESENTED for Floyd 12 years ago – power punching, crafty, relatively fast, , never been knocked down, UNDEFEATED with 30 KO’s; and WE KNOW what happened in that fight!!
Floyd WILL rise to the OCCASION and KO Canelo!!Posted September 4, 2013 4:42 pm
And Floyd is NO Roger. SO the comparison is NON parallel. Floyd is the BEST of All times. A Canelo WIN would be MUCH MUCH Bigger than Chavez’s WIN over Roger.Posted September 4, 2013 4:31 pm
Negative, Canelo is not a younger version of Chavez. That is ridiculous.Posted September 4, 2013 4:26 pm
Canelo stops FMJ!!! ” Flash back “….Chavez blows out Uncle Roger ” The Mexican Assassin” on July 7, 1985 in two rounds! And Chavez pummels Uncle Roger into quitting on stool, between rounds 10 and 11, during rematch on May 13, 1989!
The result of this match has predestine written all over it! And yes, Canelo is no Chavez…he is a better and younger version. And yes, Uncle Roger does train FMJ…bad habits soon to be exposed.Posted September 4, 2013 4:16 pm
Floyd will take the decisions every day of the week in the fight, I dont think there will be many if any opportunities for the KO.Posted September 4, 2013 4:15 pm
Floyd WILL KO/TKO Canelo by the 8th or 9th round!Posted September 4, 2013 4:11 pm
I can just see another Mosley moment early on and from then who knows. I think if forced Floyd is capable of rumbling but of course will avoid this. I think Floyd survives some attacks from Canelo and does get hurt. But I think he will win 8 rounds.Posted September 4, 2013 4:01 pm
feeling Canelo ! .. but ofcourse it easy to go for FloydPosted September 4, 2013 3:58 pm
canelo is gonna get a ghetto whippinPosted September 4, 2013 3:47 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I believe Mayweather will win by Unanimous Decision.Posted September 4, 2013 3:42 pm