Boxing

post comment

windows 1902

Im not sure what the hype is. Maybe you people are bored or need an event to bust out beer and pizza. This is not a thrill to behold but a the same old hat dance by a very controversial fighter named Mayweather.

I find it funny for mayweather fans to bragg about this guys records that has more blemishes than a 15 year old going through his pimle face age.

Mayweather fights fixed picks and always has with a few exceptions where one he actually lost. Canelo got his first test againt trout where he did well and actrually fought a draw. Hopefully Canelo can break through floyd’s all night fouling and KO this pleab

Posted September 11, 2013 1:47 am 


TARK

Kojo.., Easy enough. Watch Cotto rip Floyd’s nose to the degree Roger had to break out the King-Sized Q-Tips …. Watch Trout dominate Cotto 118-110 and beat him up … Watch Canelo outbox Trout by UD and leave the ring without a mark on him.

Posted September 10, 2013 7:10 pm 


Kojo

Why does everyone think Canelo will do so well? Who has he beaten that makes you all think he is ready for this monumental step up in class? He hasn’t fought anyone!! He’s going to be shell shocked when he gets in the ring with FMJ. You can hate Floyd all you want, it won’t make him forget how to fight. Even you poeple that don’t like him have to admit he’s a brillant boxer. Canelo is going to see some things he’s neve rseen before while Floyd will have seen everything Canelo will bring. I think this fight is going to be easy work for Mayweather.

Posted September 10, 2013 3:29 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Nope, you go for a judge that favors your fighters style. Approving/choosing which were the words of the Tard, basically is just another case of re-wording other posters words so that they fit under his foil helmet…

Posted September 10, 2013 11:13 am 


RAYGORDONREID

MTYTHS HA

Posted September 10, 2013 10:02 am 


Jonn E JaGozza

Canelo, a 23 year old kid vs a former legend but now, an old guy who
thinks he’s eternal. Pacquio what do you have to gain by fighting more, you made a ton of money ,you’re a politician, what more do you want or do you need. Retire Champ your legacy will live on without you having to enter the ring again. Don’t be like other former champs who fought on after their prime and only managed to embarrass themselves. You’re much better than them … Enjoy retirement, your country and your money … YOU EARNED IT ALL. … PEACE

Posted September 10, 2013 8:57 am 


pacmanDgreat

The last fight of pacquiao is against Martinez I cant wait for that,,,,,pacman don’t need floyd to cement his legacy……

Posted September 10, 2013 4:59 am 


TARK

Nope.., You might approve them. You don’t choose them.

Why the Hell would anyone approve of CJ Ross??? Look at the scorecard he produced for Pacquiao-Bradley. It doesn’t make sense. For a fight of this magnitude you need to go with the most consistent, objective, and competent judges in the world — not somebody who turned in a card nobody agrees with for a World Championship Title Defense by the world’s number 2 fighter.

Posted September 10, 2013 2:06 am 


david d.

Well said Pete R.!

Posted September 10, 2013 12:36 am 


Pete R.

The writer made some good points. There is the issue of speed that I believe is key. Not that strength, endurance and ring IQ aren’t, they are. Speed vs speed in this fight has been miscalculated. Yes Mayweather speed is probably the best when he fights his dame plan, however, speed of youth is different. This is speed based on reflexes and not execution of planned combinations. Here, Mayweather is not superior. Hand and eye coordination are always on the side of youth.. It has proved itself over and over in every sport. The greatest tennis players, home run hitters,, etc. have never overcome the imperceptible losing of youth reflexes. Each of the fighters that Canelo beat said the same thing; I did not realize he was that fast. This is the intangible which will determine the winner. Mayweather’s planed combinations vs youth reflexes. PS. That is why Tyson became the youngest HW Champ.

Posted September 9, 2013 7:27 pm 


david d.

Of all the great boxers and fighters from just 1900 to present alone….out of all that talent, skill, and plan toughness, FMJ is incapable of being beaten?! To date, this young, talented, tough, ring smart, undeafeated kid, and top PPV draw, embodies every element that creates upsets…which makes this match one for the books!

Posted September 9, 2013 5:49 pm 


RAYGORDONREID

i;ve got matthysee over GARCIA CANELO OVER FLOYD

Posted September 9, 2013 5:08 pm 


Truth Teller

I don’t really know why Floyd is favored in this fight. I actually favor Alvarez. Yeah people keep saying Alvarez gases out, but I’d be willing to bet that the fights where Alvarez got tired down the stretch were against active fighters like Trout. Floyd is very conservative with his punch output and is not going to be pressuring Canelo. I think this fight is going to be much more of a boxing match than a brawl. Canelo has good skills and size…not to mention the fact that he’s marketable. I can see Mayweather losing a close split decision.

Posted September 9, 2013 4:53 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

murderman: Hey what’s up, amigo? Haven’t seen you on ESB much lately.
I agree with you that it”l likely be a very close decision — like a MD or SD.
And I also agree that FMJ might get knocked down once or twice in this fight.

“But floyd will find a way to win like always. But the punishment he will take! He wont be the same fighter!” Agree that Floyd will take more brutal punishment that ever before, but will ultimately get the decision win. I’m just not sure that it’s going to be the right decision, so it could turn out to be highly controversial.

I actually think that Garcia Vs. Matthysse might steal the show as “Fight of Night,” but am having a hard time making a prediction on this one. Who are you picking to win Garcia Vs. Matthysse???

Posted September 9, 2013 4:46 pm 


E in Denver

beatingS

Posted September 9, 2013 4:28 pm 


Boxtradamus

“But in the match with Jr his defense was as good as I have seen from Cotto.”-Congrats to you E in Denver. Your eyes have gotten BETTER. Some NON sight having posters have the audacity to SAY that Cotto was the same vs. Trout as he was vs. Floyd. That’s why I told them to go take a SIGHT class.

Posted September 9, 2013 3:46 pm 


Boxtradamus

Floyd’s power is ABOVE average. DID you see the way he made Cotto buckle in the 12th??? That’s called ABOVE average power. When you can buckle guys with gloves on WHO outweigh you by 18 lbs thats ABOVE average power.

Posted September 9, 2013 3:42 pm 


E in Denver

“….Miguel Cotto….were never known for their defense and thus Floyd didn’t really need to make any of the adjustments..” You rarely see Cotto get outboxed. Cotto isn’t known as a defensive fighter but that doesn’t mean has doesn’t have a defense. Cotto parried, slipped, blocked, countered, moved in & out of range. Yes, Cotto does get hit. But in the match with Jr his defense was as good as I have seen from Cotto. Cotto forced Jr to fight more aggressively than normal(making an adjustment), thus Jr taking more shots than he liked. It still didn’t matter as Jr found a way to win. I do agree with the 1st point of this article. Jr hasn’t KO’d anyone who was looking at him in over 6 years. Bad hands, low punch output, average power don’t add up to KOs.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:25 pm 


PEEJ

No matter who Floyd fights there is always gonna be someone to hate on the victory. No matter what, either too small, too old, too young, weight drained, he wasn’t good to begin with. But before all that talk it is always, he will never fight that guy.

Posted September 9, 2013 12:16 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

The Tard chortled:

“Canelo’s camp had nothing to do with choosing CJ Ross as a judge. Boxers challenging for major titles DON’T choose their own judges.”

That would be incorrect, it’s all addressed during negotiations…

Posted September 9, 2013 11:30 am 


THE SHOWSTOPPER

CANELO KNOCKS OUT FLOYD IN THE FIRST ROUND !!!!!!!!! WATCH AND SEE !!!!!!!

Posted September 9, 2013 11:14 am 


KOrnerman

A Floyd victory will inevitably be a tainted one because everyone will say he fought a weakened fighter who boiled down too much to make weight at 152, the weigh in should have been 154 that way the controversy would be kept to a minimum.

Posted September 9, 2013 6:42 am 


KOrnerman

Sounds about right to me Turbo, The only chance I think Canelo has is if he can time a Money lead right and let him eat a hard counter shot but even if that does happen it will likely only happen once and Money wont let it happen again,I cant wait for the big night,it’ll be a great atmosphere with a mad crowd.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:58 am 


Turb0-H@mster

Yeah I see gingerbollox losing 8 rounds to 4.

Not badly embarassed, but just losing rounds through not effectively landing anything while Floyd is doing his Floyd thing – jab the body, lead rights in and out, check hook and roll out when Canelo is aggressive, lots of headshaking when pinned to the ropes.

The rounds Canelo wins might be more conclusive than the ones Floyd does, and clearly the crowd wil lgo mental with the first right hand he lands.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:53 am 


KOrnerman

Although I’d love to see Money getting KTFO, I think he will win on points.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:38 am 


KOrnerman

I honestly think Canelo will have a hard time even getting close to Floyd, unless Money lets him.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:35 am 


KOrnerman

writer says “it’s going to be a combination of combinations that will get him the victory.” I spat my coffee out laughing there, funny stuff.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:34 am 


Gaz

Joseph Herron, yup correct. Good to have u back on ESB!

Posted September 9, 2013 2:27 am 


BLUESMAN

I really think Mayweather will stop Canelo late in the fight and give him a beating before he stops him.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:24 am 


Joseph Herron

Tark,

When it’s a co-promotion like this, promoters get the opportunity of approving one judge a piece with one neutral judge that the WBC and the NSAC approves.

Mayweather promotions chose Dave Morretti, Golden Boy chose CJ Ross, and the neutral judge was Craig Metcalf.

This was one of the stipulations negotiated by both camps.

Posted September 9, 2013 2:14 am 


TARK

A good showing for Canelo in this fight might turn the tide for how gingers are treated in this country. They might finally start getting treated as humans, even though they aren`t.

Maybe gingers will even eventually get the right to marry non-gingers, and have bank accounts, and ride buses with normal people

Posted September 9, 2013 1:54 am 


murderman

@sc – hey my friend long time no hear. Check this, floyd by majority hard fought decision. He may even get knock down. Canelo is the most dangerous guy floyd coulda fought. Way more than pac. Canelo will kill pac. But floyd will find a way to win like always. But the punishment he will take! He wont be the same fighter!

Posted September 9, 2013 12:51 am 


Anonymous

And YES, I’m defining “hometown” to where you make your money and bring in money for the city/state of course. Oscar was from L.A. but Vegas was his town.

Posted September 9, 2013 12:37 am 


Anonymous

Funny, because I recall the “hometown” “Golden Boy” lost a decision in his hometown to Felix Trinidad.

Oscar won that fight and yet he was not given the decision.

Floyd can lose a decision in Vegas because the Rematch will be even bigger.

Posted September 9, 2013 12:35 am 


nameless

this fight won’t be close and there won’t be any robbery; Floyd will beat the crap outta Chucky. fact.

Posted September 9, 2013 12:16 am 


TARK

Canelo’s camp had nothing to do with choosing CJ Ross as a judge. Boxers challenging for major titles DON’T choose their own judges..

Posted September 8, 2013 11:58 pm 


TARK

The only way Canelo wins this fight is beating Floyd very badly… or knocking him TFO.

Posted September 8, 2013 11:55 pm 


TARK

That just proves that CJ Ross is one HORRIBLE judge… Everybody knows that Pacquiao beat Bradley at least 116-112… Five neutral judges scored the fight and they all had Pac winning easily.

Posted September 8, 2013 11:53 pm 


big moe

Thats the amazing thing about floyd. A man that does not throw combos yet he still embarrasses his opponent. Not many can do this. Canelo wont throw combos because floyd will see them coming and counter him.

Posted September 8, 2013 11:51 pm 


david d.

Good article Chris. Comments on your five points: 1) Lets not forget FMJ’s brittle hands, which he hurt aagain, during his last fight. Not to mention that FMJ doesn’t sit on his punches. I think Canelo will respect the punches by FMJ but not fear the lack of power. Thus, creating more offensive confidence by Canelo. 2) Oh yes, the brilliant gym performers, enough said! And this point, along with your fifth point, Canelo stays well focused and patient in maintaining “his” proper punching distance. 3) His pacing allows him to execute with explosiveness. 4) Quick accurate hands with fast shifting power!

Watch the Cotto match, when Cotto moves and boxes on the outside of FMJ’s range, Floyd reaches and over extends, thus, making him vulnerable to what Canelo did to Trout when Trout did the same….my theory is that Canelo will make FMJ come more to him, which will take Floyd out of his game. This fight is filled with some awesome possibilities!

Posted September 8, 2013 11:23 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

“If there’s any robbery here it will be for Mayweather… This is his town… These are his judges and referee.”

That is a FACT! The ONLY way Canelo can realistically get the nod in FMJ’s hometown and home county is via KO/TKO. In fact, I predict that Canelo will outbox FMJ by landing the much harder shots in a very close fight, but will get robbed on the cards. The FMJ’s fan-boyz will rejoice and never admit to the bad/corrupt decision. But the boxing public as a whole will demand a rematch.

Prediction: FMJ gets an extremely close and highly controversial decision.
Real talk.

Posted September 8, 2013 11:06 pm 


TARK

If there’s any robbery here it will be for Mayweather… This is his town… These are his judges and referee.

If Canelo beats the crap out of Floyd he will get a close decision.. much like Ward did over Froch when he beat the crap out of Froch. Two of those judges tried to give the fight to Froch but Ward won at least 10 rounds so they couldn’t.

If the fight is close it going to Floyd.

Posted September 8, 2013 10:54 pm 


Gheto Thug

I dont know why Im starting to believe that we will witness another HUGE robbery, Canelo wins by robbery, just remeber tom kaczmarek at FM vs ODL (115-113 for DLH) sh!+ happens guys

Posted September 8, 2013 10:45 pm 


TARK

Because it IS Idiot Ernie … as usual

Posted September 8, 2013 10:42 pm 


royjoneslastfight

Candelo: “MY CORONAS AND 1 DRAG QUEEN PER HOUR ON UNIVISION & TELEMUNDO WILL HELP ME WIN” !!!! Like a Good Latina Man ! ~ Pumpkinhead Latina LOSES!!

Posted September 8, 2013 9:47 pm 


TARK

Fake TARK aka FARK blaming it on Ernie as per usual.

Posted September 8, 2013 9:42 pm 


TARK

Idiot Ernie is at it again

Posted September 8, 2013 9:36 pm 


BLUESMAN

Mayweather WILL ko Alvarez, late.

Posted September 8, 2013 9:34 pm 


TARK

Fake TARK = FARK

Posted September 8, 2013 9:31 pm 


TARK

No, the post below is fake TARK.

Posted September 8, 2013 9:30 pm 


TARK

Fake TARK 3 posts below.

Posted September 8, 2013 9:11 pm 


Joseph Herron

The big canelo/mayweather preview show is getting ready to start

718-506-1506

Posted September 8, 2013 8:58 pm 


TARK

Hey McMurphy, is your full name “Randle Patrick McMurphy” and your friends call you “Mac” for short? Please say hello to Nurse Ratched, Big Chief, Martini, Max and the rest of the gang at the mental hospital.

Posted September 8, 2013 8:51 pm 


Greylo

Canelo struggled with Trout. He had him hurt and couldn’t finish him but let him back in the fight. Mayweather is going to be harder to catch than Trout was. Until Mayweather gets too old and takes the wrong fights for more money I don’t see him losing.

Posted September 8, 2013 8:50 pm 


Gooch

*canelo>Camelot. Damn autospell

Posted September 8, 2013 8:48 pm 


Gooch

If old man Mosley caught and hurt mayweather bad,the much quicker and powerful Canelo will k.o. Fmj.. Unlike old Mosley who calls his pats jabs, Canelo follows through with those jabs that are really straight powerful punches. Fmj chin has not been tested b/c of his defense. He can no longer run like forest like he used to though. Now he plants and potshots cause he is getting Oder. Camelot will walk through those lightweight potshots and connect lethal hooks of his own. Canelo will miss but when he connects its bye bye to the untested chin of Floyd clinch weather,

Posted September 8, 2013 8:46 pm 


Prof Konje

Clearly this writer is an Alvarez fan.

Posted September 8, 2013 8:45 pm 


McMurphy

I’m almost certain it isn’t but I’m willing to take that chance to find out. If I’m wrong and you end kicking my ass I’ll gladly come on here and tell everyone so.

Posted September 8, 2013 8:17 pm 


McMurphy

Well? Let’s see if your bite is as bad as your bark?

Posted September 8, 2013 8:14 pm 


petofi

Canelo will last 5/6 rounds; will run out of gas; and Mayweather will tattoo him and knock him out. Canelo’s stamina problem will be all the greater as he rehydrates for the fight.

Posted September 8, 2013 8:13 pm 


hussleman

Floyd barley gets hit especially when his dad trains him. TO be honest if canelo thought Trout was hard to hit Mayweather will make canelo look ameturish in there! Floyd to quick..fast.experience for the lukes of canelo. Believe!

Posted September 8, 2013 8:06 pm 


TARK

Floyd doesn’t get KO’d.. Saul couldn’t even KO Matt Hatton.. Floyd doesn’t KO a lot of people.. We’re in for a 12-ronund boxing match.

There may be a KO in the Matthysse-Garcia fight.. Winner fights Floyd, and might knock him out.

This pundit says.., “Alvarez, doesn’t move his head a whole lot.”

Saul moves his head very well… You didn’t watch the Trout fight.

This pundit says.., “Or move unnecessarily around the ring while he thinks about his next move (Haye).

Haye has some of the best footwork I’ve ever seen from a heavyweight. You didn’t see the Chisora fight.

This pundit says.., “It wasn’t until I saw Andre Berto and David Haye working the mitts that I figured it out.”

You don’t know what you’re looking at if you’re trying to figure out what focus-pad work is all about.

This pundit says.., “Floyd has seen it all but never all at once. If Alvarez is as special as many think he then it’s going to be a combination of combinations that will get him the victory.”

Combination of combinations??? … A mishmash of strategies won’t help Saul… This fight will be won like any boxing match—the combatant who does the better job of boxing, punching, and defending will triumph.

Posted September 8, 2013 8:04 pm 


Gooch

I take it back. Canelo by 7 rd ko. I just don’t see fmj taking more than a few jabsconnecting, which they will, before crumbling and being floored.

Posted September 8, 2013 7:50 pm 


McMurphy

This is the real Tark?

If so, what was the name of the place we arranged to meet at and what date and time again? Secondly, I’m still waiting for you to provide me with some kind of guarantee that you’ll actually going to be there. This is not an idle threat TARK, I’m very serious about this and I’m willing to come to wherever you’re stationed to kick your ass. You’ve got a real bad attitude problem and I just don’t like you and just want to slap you about a bit and teach you some manners. After I’ve done doing that I’ll shake your hand be on my merry way. Name the date, time, location and give me some kind of assurance you’ll be there and I’ll book my flight ASAP.

Posted September 8, 2013 7:50 pm 


TARK

This pundit says.., “Alvarez, doesn’t move his head a whole lot.”

Saul moves his head very well… You didn’t watch the Trout fight.

This pundit says.., “Or move unnecessarily around the ring while he thinks about his next move (Haye).

Haye has some of the best footwork I’ve ever seen from a heavyweight. You didn’t see the Chisora fight.

This pundit says.., “It wasn’t until I saw Andre Berto and David Haye working the mitts that I figured it out.”

You don’t know what you’re looking at if you’re trying to figure out what focus-pad work is all about.

This pundit says.., “Floyd has seen it all but never all at once. If Alvarez is as special as many think he then it’s going to be a combination of combinations that will get him the victory.”

Combination of combinations??? … A mishmash of strategies won’t help Saul… This fight will be won like any boxing match—the combatant who does the better job of boxing, punching, and defending will triumph.

Posted September 8, 2013 7:33 pm 


Gooch

Canelo by 9-10rd k.o.

Posted September 8, 2013 7:20 pm 


Anonymous

Mayweater needs to give the fans a pacman fight to get into the hall of fame. Pacman has. The. Only style. To beat mayweather.
I

Posted September 8, 2013 7:10 pm 


flash knock down

The short answer is until someone beats the best fighter in the world my money is on Floyd MAYWEATHER. YOU CAN ANNOLIZE FLOYDS STYLE 20 WAYS TO SUNDAY IT WONT MATTER . Floyd has proven over 17 years as a pro that he can not be beaten period. Everyone is talking about what Canelo needs to do, what he does well none of it matters. One he steps into the ring with Floyd and the things he use to do no longer work what is he going to do then. In my opinion Floyd’s biggest asset is his mind . Floyd makes you think when you are in there with him and this is what has gotten everyone who has faced him beaten. Floyd put so much pressure on you when you are standing in front of him. Let me get one thing straight Canelo lost that fight against Trout . I watched that fight 5 times I know boxing and Canelo lost that fight . Right there is your answer to this fight. There is nothing Canelo can do to beat Floyd because Floyd is just better much better. I would not be surprised to see Floyd get knocked down in this fight. In the end Floys wins by late TKO or knockout.

Posted September 8, 2013 6:49 pm 


KILLA

Great article! Mayweather is favorite accords, but Canelo has the tools to beat FMJ.Plus if he is the future of boxing he will prevail no doubt.

Posted September 8, 2013 6:48 pm 


Anonymous

Canelo showed great defensive skills, head movement, against Trout. Trout is very slick and is accurate as a puncher and yet he was having trouble landing on Canelo who has gotten even better in the past year. His quick maturity from one year to the next is similar to a lot of Great Champions. One year they look OK, next, Good, next, Very Good, next, landed on the top spot.

Floyd should be favored but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Canelo pulls off the upset.

But who has Canelo fought?

He has fought Trout who is bigger, stronger, younger and somewhat close to Floyd in slickness at this stage of their careers.
Remember, Floyd’s 36, not 26. Fighters fall off real quick.

The negative part to this all is if Floyd does lose, at 36, how many will honestly admit this man has been on the decline for years and went to high up in weight? Not many. He has to many enemies.
They want him to fall so bad like they wanted Roy.

Who has Floyd fought that could have beaten Canelo?
NOBODY.

Posted September 8, 2013 6:25 pm 


Anonymous

Canelo vs. Lopez is all I needed to see Canelo could cause Floyd trouble. If Floyd stays up against the ropes or flat-footed, Canelo will unload those killer combinations. I honestly don’t think there is any other fighter Floyd has fought that has the mixture of combinations Canelo has. The others were predicable while Canelo’s are not. And he does them so fast and accurate. Only a smaller frame body like Floyd, damage can be done especially to the body.

People talk about Trout but Trout was very good. He was just not as known so his skills get downplayed. But he showed he was to skilled and to big for Cotto who roughed Floyd up with the style Floyd implored in that fight.

Floyd needs to stick and move.

Any little man that stands in front of Canelo will be in trouble. He’ll throw with you no matter how fast you are. And that’s when he is dangerous.

Posted September 8, 2013 6:20 pm 


Haimat

The article has its points but “he does not move his head a whole” ?? What? Chris Acosta, Canelo got great head movement which he displays in every fight. That’s one of his main attributes.

Posted September 8, 2013 5:27 pm 



Leave a comment on

Myths about Mayweather-Canelo









Back To Top

Close this window.

0.190