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Titopa

He out-landed Chavez for 33 minutes….that’s hardly “running”.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:27 am 


Titopa

I agree! I think the knockdown in the 12th was due to more to Sergio insisting on “fighting” Chavez instead of boxing the way he did from the 1st to the 11th, but credit to Chavez for taking advantage of that “change” in Sergio’s game-plan….he looked strong considering he had gotten WHOOPED for 33 minutes.

Posted September 17, 2012 10:10 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is a 5 division Champion, give us a call when Maravilla has 4 or 5 under his belt… Floyds legacy and wealth are secured Sergio is still a B-side opponent to guys like Chavez monetarily…. In what world is Mayweather as big as Martinez who is a bonafide MW? commentary like this makes no sense the only fight that needs to happen on some level is Mayweather/Pacquiao so everyone can stop talking about it….Where is the desire for Sergio to go up and face Andre Ward??

Posted September 17, 2012 9:25 am 


ADL

The only reason JCC landed those punches in the 12th is because Sergio allowed it. Sergio didn’t have to trade with a guy 20lbs heavier than him. He could have just boxed and pot shot him while winning on points. It was not enough for Sergio to beat JCC just boxing. He wanted to beat JCC at his own game. He didn’t have to and wouldn’t again. If there was a rematch. It would just be a boring boxing clinic.

Posted September 17, 2012 5:14 am 


jimbo

dude get sergios balls out your mouth

Posted September 16, 2012 7:56 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Mayweather will never have the balls to fight Maravilla anyway, so you don’t have to worry about it. I’ve never seen a boxing champion so terrified of losing his 0 that he outright refuses to fight other champs of comparable size. Floyd needs to man-up and face his two worst fears: Maravilla and Pacman.

Posted September 16, 2012 7:49 pm 


Fate1

I would like to see Martinez vs canelo. That’s the fight all Latinos would buy. GBP and Dibella should make that happen for cinco de mayo or next september .

Posted September 16, 2012 6:44 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond god you are so worried about mayweather losing its sad it really is… If Sergio wants to fight at 154 why wouldnt mayweather
Fight ? It’s the sane weight ? If is ok for Dawson ti fight ward two weight classe why is not ok for Sergio to drop at 154? Youclearly shutting your pants about that idea!

Posted September 16, 2012 6:43 pm 


Bigred

I’d favor Kelly as well. Kelly at least was fairly effective against Martinez and was able to counter his speed with technique until he started to bleed. Jr would get killed vs Kelly.

Posted September 16, 2012 4:44 pm 


CALIBA

Who is cuban? ya idiot…

Posted September 16, 2012 4:24 pm 


CALIBA

Chicago girl is probably the most incompetent poster on here and I am being completely serious..

Posted September 16, 2012 3:56 pm 


WTF?

it also resulted in Chicken Jr. getting humiliated in front of his home crowd, father and girlfriend.. It also resulted in Chicken Jr’s ending up looking like MargaCheato vs Paquiao… it also ended up proving Chicken Jr. has ZERO boxing skills and only stands a chance vs much smaller guys he can wear down with his size… Chicken Jr. was shown to be nothing more then a C leve Club fighter with ZERO boxing Skills… the only Reason Martinez got caught with two Chicken Jr. shots in Round twelfth was because Martinez got Careless but even so a 180+lb Plodding Cruiserweight could not take out a 154lb 37 year old Martinez.. hardly a good showing by the over hyped Chicken Jr….

Posted September 16, 2012 2:28 pm 


Winetaster

Congrats to Martinez. I thought he would win on points. What I didn’t like is Martinez to me has been overrated and I am guilty of that too. Chavez has been underrated by the likes of people like me. The kid can fight. His chin is born of granite. No amateur background, learned on the job, i have to up my rating on that kid. Martinez on the other hand disappointed me in his win. He should have KO the kid with his pedigree background. Forget Chavez’s granite chin, Martinez should have at a minimum TKO the kid base on severity of damages. Worse, his balance is starting to worry me. Martinez has visited the canvass just too many times with too many opponents. I don’t know if age is catching up to him or what but a fight against GGG would be disastrous.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:31 pm 


nobloblow

Chavez Jr won that fight. All you have to do is watch it without audio LOL.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:27 pm 


Apex

Uh, Wards daddy was white

Posted September 16, 2012 11:53 am 


kenneth lloyd

We saw JCC jr. exposed last night. Bob Arum said he was protecting Chavez against Martinez for a while and now we see why. Martinez showed that Chavez will struggle against mobile fighters and looked weight drained. 168 is out the question.

Posted September 16, 2012 11:51 am 


jimbo

if cheatez had of been allowed to use the same sized ring as against Lee then he may well have stopped martinez – has he pissed yet?

Posted September 16, 2012 11:51 am 


Just The FACTS

Boxtradumass prediction; Martinez by BRUTAL stoppage! Yo greatest fight prophet ever….WTF?

Posted September 16, 2012 10:30 am 


Nggas aint shts

Snapper lips almost sucked JR in 12 like i’ll said but Jr wasn’t sharped, too sluggish, too many water in his belly than fire. Cuban Fraud got exposed by former Holly Holm sparring partner.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:19 am 


vass

This fight seemed to be going One way until the last 2 Rds..I was surprised that Chavez Jr hung in there for so long taking punches and then was able to hurt Martinez very badly in the 12th..Credit to both fighters..they both showed determination and toughness…But i really think that these 2 fighters are not up with the current crop of p4p fighters..Martinez seems to be slowing up at 37 and Chavez just doesnt quite seem to have the skills…i feel that they are both going to come up short against the top Guns..But full credit to there tougness..the last rd was one of the great 12rds i have seen for a while..

Posted September 16, 2012 10:18 am 


zckgqs

How was he holding back. He was almost Knocked down twice!! I doubt he was holding back to get Donair in the ring. I’m sure that Donair would beat him easily because Rigo won’t have time to set up his punches and obviously if he fights Donair he will get knocked down or out

Posted September 16, 2012 10:17 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Chavez Jr.’s performance was o embarrassing that Julio Sr. ought to demand DNA testing to determine if Julio Jr. is really his biological son.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:15 am 


sedentaristazul

The difference in class was evident…well done,Sergio

Posted September 16, 2012 10:04 am 


sigh

good idea – keep changing the rules until eventually your guy wins.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:04 am 


sigh

so blame martinez for winning a boxing match by boxing?
your coherence is matched only by your mastery of the english language.

Posted September 16, 2012 10:00 am 


SREDMOND

Fighting Chavez Jr shows that Martinez has no business looking for WW’s or even guys at 154 for the most part he is a MW who can contend with the largest so called MW in boxing….Pacquiao and Mayweather are not legit opponents for Sergio and he’s a bigger man no matter how desperately he tries to sell himself as something else…. Kudos to Martinez but his future lies at 160 and above should he choose to move up…

Posted September 16, 2012 9:59 am 


TJ

ANYONE KNOW if Chavez Jnr did a post fight sample, or did he skip town once again???
This dude needs to be OST!

Posted September 16, 2012 9:57 am 


SREDMOND

Why would any intelligent boxing fan expect an elite fighter to give his slower opponent opportunities to catch him flush? It makes no sense outboxing a bigger man is the name of the game, we all know Chavez is a slugger who relies on size and durability its foolish to play into his advantages in order to appease some silly fans..Fools used to try that with the earlier version of Margarito and ended up on the canvas (Cintron)……

Posted September 16, 2012 9:56 am 


TJ

GEALE is a one-dimensional fighter, who should have been beaten by one punch – the jab, by Felix Sturm, who for some reason fought like he was wading through quick sand….
Geale actually spends alot of the fight standing square on, with little or no head movement, trying to rest it on his opponent’s chest.
Maravilla, Golovkin, Barker, Macklin etc… will bash his face in…
I don’t consider him quick enough – hand or foot speed, big enough or ring smart enough to handle any of these competitors…
IMHO Sturm lost the fight rather than Geale won it!!!
Maravilla will definitely KO Geale as will Golovkin….

Posted September 16, 2012 9:54 am 


Gannicus

Martinez was dominating the fight but Jr never quit thats the point u so called boxing fans. The dude took his ass whooping and kept coming-kept tryn and even though he lost most of the fight he was catching Martinez with some good shots here and there. There were plenty of times when he had Martinez the same way he had him in the 12th-the only thing is he wasn’t freaking punching. If Martinez can’t get a meaningful fight then the money is there for a rematch-Martinez doesn’t want to get in the ring with Pirog or GGG. I’m not going to say anything bad about Martinez though cause he boxed his ass off but Jr came with the pain in the last round and that was more than enough for him to hold his head very high about. You guys are a bunch of A holes-the dude earned this fight-maybe not the belt he had but he still earn this fight and he did something we haven’t seen since Margarito beat Martinez and that was have him severely hurt. They need to work on quite a few more things with Chavez. He just need to watch what he eats and work on more speed and balance a lil more-he need to live in the gym cause the dude has all heart and his pop should be very proud

Posted September 16, 2012 9:53 am 


skinnysteve

i said “maravilla” would run he ran the whole 12th rd he ran until chavez jr caught him he ran like a coyote they need to bring back the 15 round title fight

Posted September 16, 2012 9:52 am 


ray gordon REID

IHAD CHAVEZ OVER MARTINEZ 9.55 AM 9/16/2012

Posted September 16, 2012 9:51 am 


Gannicus

Or how about Holifield or Cris Byrd fighting a K brother. How bout most of the guys fighting a K brother-anyway u guys are a bunch of losers

Posted September 16, 2012 9:46 am 


WTF?

Zurdo – 154lb 37 year Old Martinez Made Chicken Jr. look like a damn amature for 12 1/2 rounds.. He battered his Face and humiliated him in front of his Fans, Dad and chubby girlfriend.. Chicken Jr is a 24 year old 180+lb Cruiser weight.. Chicken jr lands two lucky shots in round 12 pushes a hurt Martinez to the Canvas Bernard Hopkins style and with over a minute to go could not take out the Smaller Older Tired Martinez??? instead Martinez recovers and continues to tag the Bafoonish Chicken Jr… Where in there do you think Chikcen Jr. did anything making him worthy of being called an Elite Boxer??? We’ll now see if Chicken Jr. will be forced to fight guys his true size like Andre Ward or Chad Dawson… Pavilk and Miranda would take out this bum out as well….

Posted September 16, 2012 9:43 am 


Turd

Like, What? Is this English?

Posted September 16, 2012 9:34 am 


prideofvirginiabeach

Yeah, it was eleven rounds of Martinez tapping the hell out of Chavez’s face and body. Yeah, Martinez could KO him, and that sucks, but he put on a boxing clinic until he finally decided to trade and got clocked. Mayweather wouldn’t run a shot that hard. Martinez could take Floyd.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:30 am 


prideofvirginiabeach

Now I totally see why Pavlik wants him to come up. He would be their for Kelly’s heavy hands and Kelly takes a punch much better than anyone he’s faced, even Martinez. Pavlik really needs to lift the title off Abraham and convince Uncle Bob to give him Junior for a PPV.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:28 am 


zurdo

Martinez fight like a marica. Martinez said he will put Chavez in the knees that did not happen. Martinez was in the knees in the 12 round. If Martinez fights Floyd that fight would be the first boxing through mobile messanger.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:11 am 


love-the-sport

You are an idiot. You are calling a man who came in at 165 pounds to fight an oversized baby at 185 pounds a ballarina. Why doesn’t JCCjr. come in at 165 pounds? Why not? Do you know why? Because it would be no contest. He has no skills. He only has weight advantages. If Chavez came in at 165 pounds then YES Martinez should fight him toe to toe and Chavez would get beat even worse.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:07 am 


love-the-sport

I don’t know about the Steriods stuff you are saying … But I think it is a given that the governing bodies will GIVE Chavez another belt because Chavez makes money for the sport. This is a business. Chavez is a good business investment. The truth is, real boxing fans might love Martinez. But he will never be as big a money maker as Chavez. It is 1000% true what you say, Chavez was exposed and came in with unfair weight advantage. You don’t like it. I don’t like it. But we are going to see more of it because he makes money for the promoters.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:04 am 


love-the-sport

I agree. Martinez should be smart and take on other fighters at the same weight. Martinez vs. Sturm. Martinez vs. Golovkin. Those are good competitive fights where at least the weights are the same.

Posted September 16, 2012 9:01 am 


love-the-sport

You don’t know anything about boxing. The weight differences they are allowing today changes the sport completely. If Chavez was 185 on fight night and Martinez was 165 that is basically like Evander Holyfield fighting Marvin Hagler …. Rocky Marciano fighting Sugar Ray Robinson … the smaller fighter would be faster but it would take 1-2 punches from Holyfield or Marciano to knockout the smaller man. It is a huge disadvantage and the fact that it took Chavez 11 rounds to produce anything is not impressive for Chavez IT IS IS IMPRESSIVE FOR MARTINEZ. The other historical fights that this is similar to would be Joe Louis vs. Billy Conn. In the first Louis vs. Conn, Louis came in at 199 where Conn came in at 174. Louis was unimpressive and was losing to Conn and only knocked out Conn in the 13th round after losing almost every other round. In the 2nd Louis vs. Conn, Louis came in at 207 and Conn at 182 and this time Louis knocks out Conn in the 8th. The point is, the bigger fighter has an advantage and it only takes 1-2 big punches to knockout the smaller man. If it takes 10+ rounds then the smaller man is putting on a tremendous performance. You could argue Chavez was lucky. 1 lucky punch after 11 rounds of getting his face beat like a dog.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:58 am 


Reg

I think Daniel Geale is next in line considering he has fought multiple former world champions, contenders and beat 2 world champions in their own backyard, has two world titles… etc……. Golovkin is yet to fight a fighter in the world top 20, shame the Pirog fight fell through, would have been an actually test for Golovkin in the pros. Geale vs Martinez for unification and Golovkin vs the winner of Quillin/NJikam to get first shot sounds about right. Golovkin undoubtably has potential, but is yet to earn his place in the pecking order, Martinez and Geale have gone through the trenches and are the only 2 left standing.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:57 am 


WTF?

Chicago Sore loser – How do you think Chicke Jr’s face got soooo busted up? he looked like MargaCheato after Paquiao at the end of the fight.. How do you think he got all that damage????
Martinez was busting him up from round one through Round 12.. if it wasn’t for that lucky shot thanks to Martinez getting careless.. this would’ve been Chicken Jr’s retirement fight… it’ll be good now seeing Chicken Jr. forced to face guys his size and he’ll end up like MargaCheato getting his ASS kicked from pillar to post until he calls it quits… :wink:

Posted September 16, 2012 8:54 am 


WTF?

Chicago guy.. It wasn’t boring at the Bar I was at.. everyone was Cheering and applauding Martinez as he busted up a plodding helpless Chicken Jr… He backed up the much Bigger Chavez Jr. many times went toe to toe many times and just plain Boxed his Ears off.. it was excellent.. the only boring person in that fight was Chavez Jr. who just didn’t know how to do anything but Plod forward like a drunk and wing wild shots… to say he’s a C level Boxer is being generous…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:50 am 


WTF?

It’s obvious that the years of taking Steriods HGH and Heaven Knows what else this cheat has put in his body have had a residual affect allowing him to absorb alot of punishment.. we’ve seen this ability in other Steriod abusing cheats like MargaCheato, Vargas, Salido, Angulo, Marquez, and Canelo… Martinez ezposed Cheating jr. as just another Head first Plodding Club fighter with ZERO Boxing Skils…. We’ll see how Cheating Jr. does working his way to another Championship match.. hopefully Uncle Sulaiman doesn’t pull some strings and steals him another Belt…..

Posted September 16, 2012 8:48 am 


love-the-sport

Why does Chavez get props? It is not quite the same math but basically you are saying we would give George Foreman props if he were to fight and knockout Marvin Hagler. I mean — that is stupid. Foreman would have knocked Hagler in like 1-2 rounds. It took Chavez and his extra 20 pounds 11 rounds before he was even competitive. It was a stupid fight. It was almost like professional wrestling.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:43 am 


Chicago guy

Martinez performanced was so boring. Hit and run and backpedalling just to earned points. Stop blaming JCCjr. blame the ballarina for not fighting toe to toe. Martinez was so fast of running away of avoiding to be knockout.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:42 am 


WTF?

Can you imagine what Andre Ward would do to this Over blown Hype Job??? :!: :!: :!:

Posted September 16, 2012 8:41 am 


WTF?

The only reason Martinez got caught with Cheato Jr’s shot is because Martinez came into the 12th too confident and taking unessessary chances.. That fight was so one sided it was embarrassing for the Chavezes.. you could see the desperation all night long in Chavez Sr. who looked like a nut trying to tell the Chavez Jr. Cornermen what Junior should be doing in the Ring.. looked insane.. you could see the disgust in Chavez Jr’s girlfriend Friddas face as her guy was getting hit all night long getting battered… by this smaller Old Man as Junior called him.. all Martinez had to do was go into the twelfth round and continue to Box Chavez Jr’s ears off and it would have been the most humiliating beating in Boxing history this decade… Martinez was still easily winning the twelfth until Chavez Jr. landed the lucky hail marry shot but still Martinez got up with over 1 minute left in the fight and recovered and continued to hit Chavez Jr… Could’ve been a tied round based on shots landed…

Posted September 16, 2012 8:40 am 


love-the-sport

Tough choice — but you are suggesting it is better to watch a big kid (Alvarez) beating-up on a smaller kid (Lopez) on Showtime rather than a smaller man (Martinez) schooling a big kid (Chavez) only to have the big kid (Chavez) show strength and heart and overwhelming size to almost win. This is a tough choice because they are both stupid match-ups. We should fights where both fighters are the same weight. I think the Martinez – Chavez fight was more compelling. The idea of the big kid getting a spanking makes more sense to me than big kid bullying a smaller fighter. Lopez was stupid to take the Alvarez fight. He should have gone back to 140 and looked to fight Maidana or Matthysee or Bradley.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:39 am 


Joshua The Great

Ahhhhhhh well said!

Posted September 16, 2012 8:37 am 


Joshua The Great

It’s Crazy how the Mexicans have belts. How is Alvarez a champion when he is constantly fight fighters in lower weight divisions.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:36 am 


Joshua The Great

@Cpp;op This is boxing and I think he showed the world how a Middle Weight beats a Cruiser Weight, lol of course Chavez Sr loves his son, any father would be proud of their son for showing that heart.
@Tark you say some funny ish but make sense.

The fight was amazing and I am so glad Chavez got exposed. I saw Sergio go down from some nice punches but I also saw him get his legs back under him and land some good shots that stopped Chavez in his tracks. I think this fight was a good lesson for Chavez, he honestly thought he was on that top tier level but he was only fighting bums, now he will take training seriously and i see him being a threat at SMW.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:33 am 


joe 712

about time chavez the jackass got expose. now go back to fighting B level fighters now waiting for canelo alvarez to be expose as soon as he steps up.

Posted September 16, 2012 8:09 am 


KillerBEE

if fighters are smart and dont want to have bad hearts in the future or be questioned for cheating or just simply want to be the best. Leave Wild Card and train with the best. The “ONE and ONLY Boxing Pragram at the Local YMCA” its tremendous. You learn shadow boxing, how to wrap your hands, How to hit a heavy bag, oh and how not to take steriods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 8:05 am 


KillerBEE

Alex Ariza Is the worst conditioning coach his fighters always get slower and have less endurance instead of the other way around. What i say is Alex needs to go back to LA Fitness and teach Yoga or SPin CLass Boxing isnt working out

Posted September 16, 2012 8:02 am 


KillerBEE

HAHAHAHAHA…..Roach could have made it so much easier on himself to be nice to the people around him who care. And maybe the outcome wouldnt be bad karma.

Her it is Plain and simple:

Freddie Lost Khan

JC Chavez jr Got Spanked

His last big Fighter Got Spanked

Pacquiao Lost to BRadley and will lose to Marquez and Definitely Mayweather

Time to hang them up Freddie. Save yourself

Posted September 16, 2012 7:58 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Chavez’s performance was embarrassing to see. But for the 12th round knockdown, Julio had little to offer, yet at the fight’s conclusion, he was raising his hands as if he were the victor. What nerve – or was it sheer incompetence in not knowing how badly outclassed he was? It’s back to kindergarten for you, Julio, so you can be the sandbox bully once again.

Posted September 16, 2012 7:38 am 


Exiled Yank

FM Martinez at 154? Sounds like one hell of a chess match to me. I’m for it. FM does not need to move to 160 though, that’s just crazy.

Posted September 16, 2012 7:21 am 


Exiled Yank

I watched showtime instead of paying for this… and I’m glad I did. Props to Martinez for doing exactly what he should have. I’m sure Chavez still has plenty of options, but they need to keep him away from guys that can move, or this will happen again. I’d like to see him fight at 168 where he’s on equal footing with size. But 168 is pretty packed and I doubt he’ll do very well. Maybe AA at 160. Who knows. But again, congrats to Martinez for a solid fight (or so I hear).

Posted September 16, 2012 7:18 am 


Rudy the Ram

Martinez was so good, he setup his own kd

Posted September 16, 2012 7:17 am 


imjustsayin

I give Chavez who came in as a cruiserweight a lot of props for ALMOST knocking out a blown up Jr Middleweight aftre getting his ass handed to him for 11.5 rounds.

Posted September 16, 2012 6:57 am 


imjustsayin

Yeah I give credit to a Cruiserweight beating a Jr Middleweight. Yep Chavez is really tough (not). The guy is a coward bully.

Posted September 16, 2012 6:30 am 


hookoffthejab

like i said TheFarts bitter and twisted …….. :lol:

Posted September 16, 2012 5:55 am 


TheFacts

fa#gotoffthejab,Sergio got justice i’m good.Did i hurt your feelings or something?…….I don’t give a damn.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:49 am 


TheFacts

As for rigo he fought a much bigger opponent in marroquin seems like the best underrated champions are always fighting the top contenders while the overrated paper champs are fighting tomato cans & getting more credit/exposure.Shows how much fans know or care.Nonito,mares,arce whoever need to stop talking & fight the best, that’s rigo.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:45 am 


hookoffthejab

TheFarts you sound quiet bitter and twisted … :shock:

Posted September 16, 2012 5:43 am 


TheFacts

2face haters Nobody was scared if anything i was right & laughing my ass off on dumb jr fans i encouraged to bet not warned.Made huge bets & came up short big time.IDK if you were one don’t care either but many of you were dead wrong in thinking jr even had a chance.Catching your opponent off guard the last 90 sec doesn’t count either.Jr made Sergio wait years to hand him a belt that wasn’t even his in the first place now he can get in the back of the line of(floyd,canelo,cotto ect earn a shot or go up to super middleweight & get his a## kicked by ward or anybody else doesn’t matter lose-lose situation for jr. Jr not getting that lucky the 2nd time if ever.A masterful performance by a true elite fighter/warrior.What a Marquez esc type clinic.See 95% of you bet with heart you should use the brain you were born with once in a while, if you have one but i see most of you don’t.10 steps ahead of these………… idiot/fools.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:38 am 


hookoffthejab

junior got his arse handed to him for 11.5 rounds chavez couldnt muster any kind of assault on sergio because junior has very limited foot work junior was able to knock sergio down in the last round and that was all junior could muster chavez will get his arse handed to him if he fights say a geale or a macklin no doubt …

Posted September 16, 2012 5:35 am 


TheFacts

2face haters Nobody was scared if anything i was right & laughing my ass off on dumb jr fans i encouragef to bet not warned.Made huge bets & came up short big time.IDK if you were one don’t care either but many of you were dead wrong in thinking jr even had a chance.Catching your opponent off guard the last 90 sec doesn’t count either.Jr made Sergio wait years to hand him a belt that wasn’t even his in the first place now he can get in the back of the line of(floyd,canelo,cotto ect earn a shot or go up to super middleweight & get his a## kicked by ward or anybody else doesn’t matter lose-lose situation for jr. Jr not getting that lucky the 2nd time if ever.A masterful performance by a true elite fighter/warrior.What a Marquez esc type clinic.See 95% of you bet with heart you should use the brain you were born with once in a while, if you have one but i see most of you don’t.10 steps ahead of these………… idiot/fools.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:31 am 


siegfried

As a child my mother read stories from the Bible. one of these was David and Goliath. Goliath was a giant of about 180 pounds and david a little man and fast as hell. I think Chavez jr has played this story wonderful.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:04 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Sounds like the you didn’t watch the first 11.5 half rounds, wherein Maravilla took Jr. to boxing school and pummeled his face into bruised, raw meat. I give Jr. credit for a flash knockdown, but he couldn’t finish the job like a champion. 118-109 is getting dominated, anyway you try to spin it.

Posted September 16, 2012 5:00 am 


Gr33nFather

you guys didn’t watch the 12th round… Martinez was badly hurt, there is no domination at all

Posted September 16, 2012 4:55 am 


hookoffthejab

geale would beat marriville …

Posted September 16, 2012 4:54 am 


aj

the decision was never a doubt, sergio martinez had won this fight before it started
whats next well daniel geale doesnt stand a chance against sergio just not in the same class.
golovkin might not be good enough
the middle weight division is conquered
sergio martinez has proved that he is a true champion he did what he had to do
if i were daniel geale i would stay away for now atleast

Posted September 16, 2012 4:49 am 


hookoffthejab

im just happy that fraud juniors run as a “world champ” is over for the time being what a farce junior was first time he steps up he gets exposed A spoilt brat is what he reminds me of ….

Posted September 16, 2012 4:45 am 


The Idiot

I’m a big fan of Daniel Geale but imho he need (at least for now) to stay away from the very best Martinez & Golovkin, Geale will still have choice for interesting bouts with Pirlog, Macklin, Murray, Chavez Jr., N’Dam N’Jikam, Quillin, Proksa etc

and I hope Martinez vs Golovkin next

Posted September 16, 2012 4:31 am 


royjoneslastfight

Chavez = Steroids & Cheating !!!

Posted September 16, 2012 4:28 am 


Nasa Deen

What The Hell are you talking about?

Posted September 16, 2012 4:25 am 


The Idiot

HBO coverage just after the end of the bout was amateurish, they cut Chavez Sr. when he was coming toward his son and they also miss the Martinez/Chavez Jr. mutual concratulation, … and the other amateur during the bout was the worst cuterman in the world Alexa Ariza!

Posted September 16, 2012 4:19 am 


Another 2 Cents Worth!

:roll: Those who seem to think “Canelo” would have it easy with “Maravilla” are kidding themselves :!: Sergio is a natural middle-weight, is 1″ taller, has a 4″ reach advantage & has slightly faster hand-speed. And Canelo is pretty easy to hit if you have hand-speed! Martinez, likely has equal power too. Not to mention Sergio has MUCH better agility and footwork & a better defense than Saul. Alvarez won’t be able to walk Martinez down, trap him in the corner or on ropes & pound him to the body at will, like he is so used to doing to others. No… “Canelo” will eat “Maravilla’s” jabs all night & miss wildly nearly half the time… It would be much closer than this Martinez/Chavez Jr. bout, but still, I foresee a clear UD for Sergio!

Posted September 16, 2012 3:57 am 


Mix

GB: In an ideal World I’d agree. However Boxing politics will once again rear it’s ugly head & between them the WBC, WBA & IBF will wreck things again. It’s all greed & power oriented:!:

Posted September 16, 2012 3:53 am 


Mix

It’s all history now, :idea: so what happens next :?: With Geale, Golovkin, Macklin & Murray out there S.G.Martinez could ca$h in with a trip to Europe (Thank you very much£$) :wink: . It’s apparent that J.C.Chavez is finished @ 160Lb, so does he take a couple of warm ups & challenge WBC/WBA 168Lb champion Andre Ward :?: :roll: or maybe bypass him & move to light-heavyweight :?: Shumenov(WBA), Cloud(IBF) & Cleverly(WBO) could be viable options, but with his connections with Jose Suliaman’s WBC a crack at Dawson looks more realistic. Now for Rigo: He’s gonna have immediate problems what with Mares/Moreno, Nishioka/Donaire & Quigg/Munroe all lined up to fight this year he might find it difficult to find a credible opponent before next Summer :sad: .

Posted September 16, 2012 3:48 am 


GB

Daniel Geale will beat Martinez if they fight and will be the undisputed middleweight champ. Hasnt been done since marvin hagler.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:37 am 


whiteman in d nial ali was truly the greatest

this golovkin is a bum from europe who beat a bum from poland and now he is a star ward ko.s this bum in 2rds
white boys get on the hocket web site

Posted September 16, 2012 3:27 am 


TheFacts

Anybody who claims they’re the smartest or greatest because they called a 50-50 for the favorite is stupid.You don’t need to be a genius to call this fight.Sergio had more talent,skill,heart ect common sense really.I see some of you jr fans are still at it though.No fighter 20lbs bigger & scared to engage against a smaller fighter throughout 11 rounds has any slack that’s garbage excuses that’s what that is.Sergio dominated like he was suppose to give credit were it’s due damn hypocrites y’all are fake as a mug.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:23 am 


Delgado

Neither Golovkin or Chavez can beat Sergio. Chavez is very one-dimensional and tonight he was not even fairly effective.However there are plenty of potentially good matchups in the division. Golovkin vs. Chavez would be an intriguing matchup.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:22 am 


Anonymous

Chavez Jr. uses his body while Sergio Martinez uses his head. Very smart move by Sergio. He played the game of Chavez Jr., not his game. Well executed old legend! see you in the ring with Floyd Jr. (Hmmm… another junior huh?)

Posted September 16, 2012 3:22 am 


fight aficionado

We watched canelo but it sounds like Martinez took Jr to school as expected. The author writes it all off by discounting Jr. He looks slow because Martinez is crazy fast. Bring on Floyd and Pac at 154 he’d beat them both.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:20 am 


zurdo

Tark…mmh let the adults talk please. go to sleep.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:16 am 


TARK

I dont know whos posing as me but the imposter is right you all are possers !!!

Posted September 16, 2012 3:11 am 


Tark

I am the smartest boxing person on here. Those that can’t keep up need to get a brain. Martinez I was right all along. Dont be jealous fools

Posted September 16, 2012 3:09 am 


Juggernaut

LM always hits da button

Posted September 16, 2012 3:06 am 


Cpp;op

All Marinez does is run. and yes Chavez Senior loves jr very much

Posted September 16, 2012 3:06 am 


zurdo

There are not rules to about the weight in the fight. Some idiots dont understand that. Let the hate for Chavez flow, its ok. there are reasons.. he got the easy way. he fill arenas, he got a lot of money, he is a partial time fighter, he is mexican, he is white.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:05 am 


TARK

Martinez is not looking for Golovkin… He’ll fight a rematch with Jr before he fights 3G… His first target is Floyd. Second target is Ward. 3rd target is a Chavez rematch followed by another call out to Floyd.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:04 am 


Jan

Chavez Sr you can see loves his son very much

Posted September 16, 2012 3:03 am 


Pistol Pete

Chavez jr. won his previous bouts using his size and not with a skillset.That he would be outboxed,outskilled and dominated by Martinez for most of the fight was a given.Once again, Freddy did a lot of talking before the fight about what Chavez Jr. was going to do to Martinez before the fight but Chavez Jr. failed to deliver the victory.I do not question his toughness or heart but he is slow and that is something that is beyond Freddy`s or any human being`s power to correct.

Posted September 16, 2012 3:02 am 


Kenny

Ive never heard of garcia fighting an old man. What i do hear is that garcia is fighting a wayyy past his prime morales. martinez and chavez are both at their peeks, well at least martinez is. Garcia is at his peak while morales was last at his peek after the barrera fights. Get it

Posted September 16, 2012 2:58 am 


Raheem250

This kid just got his ass handed to him on silver platter and idiots in this site have the nerve to act as if Chzvez made a big accomplishment by knocking Sergio down in the last round. Give me break, this kid is still a hype job. He fights at middleweight, but outweighs his opponents by 30 pounds on fight night….talk about rehydrating! Chavez is a bum and nothing special! He’s the big bully in school that picks on everyone, because he is bigger. But today he fought a man at least 25 pound lighter who whipped that ass!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:58 am 


Juggernaut

good one

Posted September 16, 2012 2:53 am 


zurdo

When chavez connects is a lucky Punch of a bum….. When martinez connects Paul Williams is art… When Danny Garcia connects Khan is biggest left hook of history… That concept “lucky punch” is so stupid…. Fighters get into the ring to guess what??? throw kisses??? run in circles ???? nop. Is to throw punches… All Chavez haters are a little disappointed even with Martinez Victory. All of you were expected for Martinez ko chavez. But the opposite was more close.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:52 am 


Juggernaut

What canelo only fights true welter and light-welter. Even though chavez got schooled, he atleast had the heart to fight someone like Martinez who is in the middle weight area.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:51 am 


Boxeo

A rich spoiled MEXICANT brat , saved sergio, if chavez really trained then it might have been different

Posted September 16, 2012 2:51 am 


TheFacts

Sergio had heart,if that’s not heart idk what is.Floyd clinched heavy when he got hurt vs a 39 year old juice free mosely 2x in round 2.Oscar beat a prime juiced up Vargas & mosely 2x.Sergio gassed out after all the footwork & punches he threw even then he still managed to hang on & fight back where’s the holding lying jr claims.Can’t even honor that what a damn shame.Sergio-canelo then sergio-floyd or vice versa. Floyd claims he’s the best & nothing to prove?& canelo claims he want’s the best yet still fighting has beens for a paper belt that was given to him like jr?SMH all bad.Step up to the plate & fight a real p4p Kingpin.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:51 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Golovkin is practically begging for a fight with Martinez or Chavez. Let’s see who has the balls to get in the ring with him. Golovkin is hungry as a wolf and has challenged and called out all the top fighters from 154 to 168 lbs. I can’t wait to see who’s going to man up and give him a shot. Will it be Martinez, Ward, Canelo or someone else? What do you think, boxing fans?

Posted September 16, 2012 2:50 am 


Itsonlymyoppinionbut

Golovkin is the real deal, no doubt about that, but Martinez’s speed may trouble him. I think that Golovkin may dominate the division after Martinez quits, which at nearly 38 can’t be that far away.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:45 am 


olly

if could of shoulda yeah!!!never occured to u the more aggresive u get the more open u are chavez eyes where closing!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:45 am 


Juggernaut

golovkin is a solid puncher but not at Maravilla’s level. He will get gamed by Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:45 am 


olly

yeah but u where cryin for 11 rounds and still lost and the rematch will be the same without the 12th concentration flop it was too easy u know it’s really sad!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:43 am 


jackson

sergio doesnt want to fight ward. and ward recently said that martinez was too small for him to fight. sergio enters the ring at 160….his opponents step in at 10-20 pounds heavier. martinez is a jr middleweight who couldnt get fights. and ward would outweight him by 20 at ring time. ward is too much of a gentleman to even consider the fight, though he wanted the 180 pound chavez if he won the fight.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:41 am 


olly

dude he beat the guy easy lucky punch thats it happens in boxing!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:39 am 


olly

why don’t u ask lacy bernard the fake low blow king to save himself from stoppage plus getting the usual golden boy scorecard gift while the 2 others have calzaghe winning easy!!!u might watch it again i got a copy for u u know u can’t go to a bar getting drunk and watch a fight and then have a opinion u need to follow the sport u understand?

Posted September 16, 2012 2:38 am 


zurdo

The real loser tonight was Martinez. Chavez is just a protected bum he is not? Martinez is a P4P just beneath pac and floyd he is not? Martinez was exposed by a limited figther. He dont hit so hard. His chin is not so resistent. Now he is older. Chavez is more experienced.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:37 am 


TARK

Martinez looked like Calzaghe in there for a minute—getting dumped on the canvas… But Calzaghe didn’t have the jab and straight left that Sergio has and threw wider shots that left him more open.. By the time he was Sergio’s age Joe was safely retired… JC never fought anyone close to as good as Ward. I hope Sergio gets that fight.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:36 am 


Heeber

Mark my words, GENNADY GOLOVKIN will destroy Matinez easily. Those who say “no” will eat their words if Martinez dares to face Golovkin. Golovkin will go down as one of the greatest middle weights the world has ever seen.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:36 am 


Hugh Jardon

Who lost 11 out of 12 round pedulio

Posted September 16, 2012 2:34 am 


Hugh Jardon

I bet Chavez senior was thinking dejavu for his bum son getting a tko in the 12th round, not this time julio, we had a straight ref in there

Posted September 16, 2012 2:31 am 


olly

i agree he will do the same thing and if chavez comes more aggressive then sergio will bust him up even worse!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:29 am 


Stop Being Hypocritical

May I suggest Tark that you take a cue and stop contradicting yourself

Posted September 16, 2012 2:27 am 


WTF?

So Danny Garcia fighting 34 year old Eric Morales is fighting an old man according to all these Mexicans but Chicken Jr fighting a 37 year old Martinez is not fighting an old guy?? even Chicken Jr. said Martinez was an old man on TV.. So can anyone explain how this old man beat Chicken Jr. for all 12 rounds.. take away the lucky shot and martinez getting hurt and it was a totally one sided humiiliating blow out..

Posted September 16, 2012 2:27 am 


Stop Being Hypocritical

And Tark you need to stop being a hypocrite. Is that a tough concept for you to grasp ?

Posted September 16, 2012 2:24 am 


olly

sayin u wrong lucky punch yes but martinez put the guy to skool in the rematch he will bust him up even more since martinez will be more smart and pot shot him to death!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 2:23 am 


Pete

Bring on Daniel Geale for the Undisputed championship of the world.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:22 am 


Marlon Bronson

“Joe Calzaghe is the biggest fluke in Boxing History and most fighters don’t respect him. His only fans are Brits and a couple of Italians”

Are you serious?

Posted September 16, 2012 2:22 am 


TARK

Roach, at least at this point, is not the best boxing teacher… I suggest Chavez take a cue from Khan.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:20 am 


1-2

15 rounds? Jr punched himself out by the end of the 12th as Martinez was coming back. Jr got his ass handed to him and his face is in an ice bucket right now.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:18 am 


TARK

Chavez lost at least 10 to 15 fights off his career with this beating… He needs to move up to a more comfortable weight and learn how to box… Are those tough concepts to grasp??? Fight at a weight that doesn’t drain you — and radically improve your boxing skills. He’ll have tons more energy at super middleweight, but that won’t help if his boxing skills don’t get much better. Chavez is not a bad boxer — he’s just not a championship caliber boxer … and everyone knew he was going to get his tail boxed off.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:18 am 


Itsonlymyoppinionbut

Ward is a natural light heavyweight and Martinez is a natural light middleweight, Mayweather is probably a natural light welter/weltweight. Marinez is to small for Ward and Mayweither is too small for Martinez.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:16 am 


Marlon Bronson

Elvis-Rocky Chavez Jr. not a P4P Great Boxer but a P4P Great Champion, despite the UD he was smiling after the bout, Martinez not really

Posted September 16, 2012 2:15 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

… or Light Heavy. Martinez is a natural Jr. Middleweight (154 lbs.).

Posted September 16, 2012 2:14 am 


TheFacts

Why is jr ducking a drug test?, he’s bugger,11 years younger,has the popularity good or bad.Sergio was fighting a solid Chavez,overrated yes a little but jr is a top contender as long as he remains fighting guys(20-30lbs) 2-3 divisions smaller than him he’s a threat this is getting ridiculous.Plastered gloves until they found out about Nazim?Taking same thing pac’s taking & refusing to test as well?Roach has a couple steroid users this is nothing new(Vargas,Toney ect)Regardless of what it is Sergio defied all odds he might have been the favorite but he wasn’t with the judges.Sergio beat jr & the judges he had to leave no doubt & was forced To dominate anything less could’ve been catastrophic.Bring on Floyd & canelo either one first but both eventually.I’d like to see floyd & pac beat a dangerous fighter with tremendous advantages like 20ls & judges against them.Sergio is a natural 154lb fighting middleweights & Super Middleweights because nobody will man up & fight him how sad.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:11 am 


The Prince

I believe Martinez earned the right to fight for the number 1 P4P spot. Rather it’s against Pacquiao, Mayweather, or Ward. I believe a fight with Ward makes more sense and both can fight at a catch-weight without any of them losing anything physically too much. But, Martinez wants Floyd. We’ll see what happens next. He might get him at 154 as Mayweather’s last fight of his career. Then again, 50 Cent might actually pull off the Mayweather\Pacquiao fight. Next year will be interesting to say the least.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:11 am 


kenneth lloyd

Chavez will get killed at Supermiddleweight

Posted September 16, 2012 2:10 am 


Itsonlymyoppinionbut

You know I was actually holding my breath also. Just shows how bad it’s got when even in a completely one sided fight you wonder if the winner will actually get the verdict.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:10 am 


Ghetto Thug

Mayweather un mariquita?? jajajajajaja lo que pasa es q el culo te arde porque chavez recibio la paliza de su vida, tuvo suerte de conectar a martinez en el 12, si hay una revancha martinez le va a patear el culo aun peor

Posted September 16, 2012 2:09 am 


Ghetto Thug

This

Posted September 16, 2012 2:07 am 


zurdo

Y con eso contestaste mi pregunta??? Quien tiene miedo de quien??? Quien dijo que lo iba a poner de rodillas en la lona??? Quien estubo en la lona de rodillas?? Chavez Jr. no es ni la mitad de lo que fue su padre como boxeador. Pero con su determinacion es suficiente para poner a payasos como Martinez en la lona. Esos payasos no hacen el boxeo. La arena no estaba llena por Martinez. Broner, Floyd y Martinez son un bonche de campeones mundiales pero tambien de mariquitas.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:04 am 


Itsonlymyoppinionbut

Chaves is going to strugle to make 160 before he gets much older but he had better stay there as long as he possibly can. He would have little chance at 168 where all of the top guys are his size. Even with his size advantage he was completely outclassed and outfought by Martinez. Martinez thought he had the fight won and got sloppy in the 12th but still managed to end the round throwing punches. I think that Martinez will win the second fight even easyer than the first. He will not underestemate Cheves’s power next time and not get sloppy.

Posted September 16, 2012 2:02 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

118-109 is exactly how I scored it. He was also getting beat for most of the 12th round, until the last minute.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:58 am 


Anonymous

Props to Chavez after getting his ass handed to him for 11 rounds and showing true Mexican heart. He had Martinez out but couldnt close the show as Martinez was punching back and imo was in better fighting shape at the end of the fight. Lets hope they rematch these 2 and Martinez will do the exact same and maybe even stop him. Canelo on the other hand is the true Mexican fighter. He has all the tools to be great.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:57 am 


Clinic

That last round must of been 10-8 for Chavez, he still lost 118-109 on the cards, that’s how bad he got beat for 11 rounds.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:55 am 


00

he got dominated for 11 rounds, parecia cura catolico abusando de un nino por casi toda la pelea, solo porque conecto con un poco de suerte no significa nada

Posted September 16, 2012 1:54 am 


Boxtradamus

Don’t worry Chavez Jr. fans. Suilamen will find a way to strip Martinez again or he will create a new belt for Chavez Jr.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:52 am 


Clinic

Predicting a KO in the mid to late rounds, then Chavez should of been at least in the fight for the rounds before, he lost lost all the rounds.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:51 am 


zurdo

Who are the men???
Martinez won the chapionship..
But who did visit the canvas?? Who was praying for the fight finish?? Who was scare of who. Boxing skills go away when you step down of the ring. Determination and brave are with you always. Like Merchant says “good mexican fighters always outlast”

Posted September 16, 2012 1:50 am 


Titopa

Haha!! My jaw certainly hit the floor…what a comeback by Chavez!! What a night of fights (Showtime & HBO). Good good night

Posted September 16, 2012 1:47 am 


Its Me, Ernie

No one really cares who you picked.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:45 am 


CALIBA

Actually someone threw the Argentine flag at Chavez, Sergio saw and apologized for the disrespect

Posted September 16, 2012 1:45 am 


Rat

Miss it, it more exciting to read the round by round singlely. Chevez That what happen when you don’t watch and study tapes. find it hard to understand he didn’t expect sergio would be moving around and he need to work and absorb shots( you going to get them anyway from the outside) for his own shots as the 12, but Martinez showed beautiful combo, and deserve the win.I understand it more when I get to see it on utube.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:44 am 


te tumbo

i predicted a KOj win for Chavez Jr. in the mid- to -late-rounds for the biggest Upset of 2012. i thought round 12 would happen around 8 or 9 and Jr. would finish the job soon afterwards. nonetheless, that single 12th round made this the toughest win of Martinez’s career.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:44 am 


Adrian

Ok in any case you were wrong ! Toughest fights for Martinez has been against;margarito and wiliams the first fight by far than against Chavez !

Posted September 16, 2012 1:42 am 


sal.o

YES!!! a rematch would sell out again ,,i know Chavez lost badly but ,,but,, he almost put martinez away in the last round….

Posted September 16, 2012 1:40 am 


Clinic

You need to know boxing, Martinez is similar but not quite as good, different weights I know that, Martinez has the skills of Calzaghe,not as quick with the fast punching, he needs to finish fighters off, take a risk, Calzaghe v Chavez type fighter, he would of won easily.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:38 am 


reality bites …chavez

old school ass whooping just got put on chaveeezzzaaa

Posted September 16, 2012 1:38 am 


sal.o

the problem is Chavez does not throws jabs when he did decide to snap the jab he actually connected,he has to learn to snap the jab and then the right ..

Posted September 16, 2012 1:37 am 


te tumbo

i actually said that Jr. was better than any previous Martinez opponent. in fact, This was the toughest win of Martinez’s career. i also anticipated a KO mid- to -late-rounds for the biggest Upset of 2012, but why trust me or your own shaky memory? i’m certain my previous posts are there for you to verify the truth yourself.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:36 am 


Adrian

Yeah te tumbo but we Martinez fans are all smiles now after the fight and feel sorry that you have to make your self feel better by trying to stir some unimportant belony . Sorry but Chavez lost end of story!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:36 am 


Tommy G

ditto!!!! i was yelling NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:35 am 


jimbo

sergio didnt just get knockdown he was hurt and barely had any legs, lucky this fight wasnt 15 rounds

Posted September 16, 2012 1:34 am 


Eugthehuge

Dumbest comment of the day.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:34 am 


Pollo Loco

Weeks saved Martinez. He gave Martinez too much time.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:34 am 


Eugthehuge

Hopefully JC will have learnt tonight that not all fighters will stand to get hit, and that to win a fight you need among other things to hit more than your opponent. JC gave away most rounds by simply not throwing punches at ALL. Was he so scared? That last round showed he had the power to beat Sergio, but showing is not the same as doing. Props to Sergio, but he does not look like a durabl champion. Hope they both do better in the inevitable rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:33 am 


jimbo

the biggest fight of his career, on the biggest stage on ppv on a mexican holiday, believe me if he could he would have stopped him, dont make excuses for argentina

Posted September 16, 2012 1:32 am 


TARK

Boxtradamus predicted a KO by Martinez. Wrong again. I predicted a dominant decision win for Martinez because it’s the only thing that made sense. Chavez Jr has one hell of a iron chin. If a guy has 30 pounds on you and can punch with really good power, and those are Chavez’s only 3 assets: chin, size, and power, and of course Jr had an 11 year age advantage on top of that, you go for a dominant decision win and not worry about the KO …. I wouldn’t go for the rematch, necessarily, if I was Martinez because you gave the kid hope. Go for a Mayweather fight at 154. Failing that, go for a Ward fight at 164 …. I wouldn’t look for a 3G fight right away because he’s the toughest guy out there.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:31 am 


JoeKidd

Are u guys serious???? So it was Martinez’s choice not to KO him early? Precious!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:30 am 


te tumbo

the rematch will depend completely on the money to be made. Martinez is on his retirement $urge and if a rematch v. Chavez Jr. is the most profitable matchup out there, i’m certain he’ll take it. Martinez can simply adopt the posture that he’s got nothing more to prove and focus on confirming the most lucrative matchups out there.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:30 am 


super_hook

chavez is overrated and got schooled why should there be a rematch because of 1 rd knock down even though martinez was fighting back Calzaghe got knock down by roy jones and he still got beat

Posted September 16, 2012 1:30 am 


JoeKidd

Pure nonsense. Martinez had to keep away from Chavez’s power.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:29 am 


John O’Neill

If there is a rematch Martinez will have more respect and KO him early. He treated this fight as a training session.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:28 am 


Adrian

Ok and your point is the prince ? So even you are admitting that braedly lost and than you complain why are comentators critizing the decision? Lol

Posted September 16, 2012 1:28 am 


Hidalgo

Yeah, Larry would have herded everyone back into a state of reality. Martinez beat the crap out of Jr. That’s that. One round for Jr. doesn’t indicate a need for a rematch. It does prove that Jr. needs a lot of work on his game before he fights another elite opponent.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:27 am 


crush

seroids you steroidgigio right???

Posted September 16, 2012 1:26 am 


the chad

Martinez got his tacos twisted in the 12th Martinez punches to chavez didn’t do nada.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:26 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Exactly! Well said, Hidalgo. Kellerman almost made me change the channel the way he was praising and congratulating Jr. as if he won the fight. Any pro-boxer always has a punchers chance — especially when he outweighs his opponent by 25 lbs. The reality is that Jr. got schooled, out-boxed and beaten from pillar to post for 11.5 rounds. I’d like to see what his face looks like tomorrow morning. He took a hell of a beating.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:26 am 


Clinic

Martinez could of beat up Chavez and knocked the fight out of him, but he chooses to dance around and pot shot,he won’t do that again,respect to Chavez for that last round.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:25 am 


te tumbo

(lol) when Chavez Jr. finally got to Martinez in the 12th and Sergio was staggering along the ropes, i was imagining the utter and bitter despair Jr’s-haters were feeling at that moment (lol). Martinez was out on this feet even as Chavez Jr. proceeded to land several more flush shots across a flailing and stumbling Sergio’s chops (lol). i could practically hear the sound of jaws and hearts dropping (lol) . . . :twisted:

Posted September 16, 2012 1:25 am 


JoeKidd

Of course Chavez deserves a rematch! Sergio was not put down by 1 lucky shot! Chavez marched him down! He’s got to take that same approach earlier. I would favour him in a rematch because Sergio cannot put him down. This is assuming Chavez pisses clean!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:23 am 


B Red

Chavez got beat up as a strong cw. Hes Pw waiting to happen with the punches he takes

Posted September 16, 2012 1:23 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

The last thing that Chavez deserves is a rematch. He needs skills.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:23 am 


Hidalgo

As for a rematch? No. Martinez did what he said he’d do and he did it to a man who is substantially bigger than him. Martinez doesn’t have anything to prove. He whupped Jr.’s ass just like he promised. Now he can move on and enjoy his new belt. Meanwhile Jr. will wake up tomorrow morning with that stupid smile gone from his face, and will be seriously lamenting over the loss of his title and belt.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:22 am 


jimbo

congrats sergio, imho if chavez was more active in the last 5 rounds he would have stopped martinez, the same way margarito throws nonstop even if he hits nothing but air, shoulder, elbow, anything, except chavez wasnt throwning and roach and chavez snr were trying to encourage jr to just throw punches, after the 6 round the only the way i figured chavez could still win was by walking him down and chasing the 37 year old til his legs tired from nonstop pressure , only mexicans can pressure 12 rounds while being shutout and still have a chance to stop their rivals from constant pressure and making you use and tire your legs etc bute vs andrade, chavez vs taylor, margarito vs cotto, and now chavez jr vs martinez

Posted September 16, 2012 1:22 am 


the chad

As a Martinez fan what a great fight Chavez made a tremendous performance that 12 rd was bad ass.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:22 am 


Adrian

Ok te tumbo I don’t remember. You saying that “Chavez will do better than any other of his previous opponent” but I remember you said last night in your comment that Chavez will ktfo and stop Martinez early!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:21 am 


The Prince

Reread my post, I didn’t say Bradley won the fight.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:21 am 


Hidalgo

More importantly, Martinez took on a guy who is much bigger than him–and who has no business being a middleweight in the first place–and took his title away from him. Everyone is goo-gooing over Chavez because it was such an exciting ending to the fight, but bottom line is that Martinez worked his ass over for 11 rounds then came back in the 12th to beat Chavez off of him. Chavez can smile all he wants about one single round but the truth is Martinez owned him for 11 rounds. Literally.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:18 am 


Papitogunz45

I agreed with you all the way until you brought up the Pacquiao/Bradley fight. Bradley lost! Even Stevie Wonder can see that! Lol!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:18 am 


te tumbo

correction: as his father was shouting, Jr. needed to “stop looking for the perfect punch and just Punch!”

Posted September 16, 2012 1:17 am 


Hidalgo

yeah, then Chavez Jr. told Martinez to get his hand off his shoulder. Martinez removed it, then apologized.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:15 am 


Hidalgo

More importantly, Martinez’s recovery was spectacular. Not only that he fought he was to the end of the 12th round. One of the best displays of heart, courage and determination that I have ever seen in the sport of boxing.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:14 am 


SAM CAN

Why didn’t Chavez Jr. weigh in.. Remember what happened with Troy Rowland…his win over Troy Rowland turned into a ‘No Contest’ following a positive test for a banned diuretic Furosemide which helps making weight – but also more alarmingly, is used to mask much harder steroid use. MARTINEZ JUST HAD A FIGHT WITH A CRUISERWEIGHT……I’m glad Martinez won…Justice is done. :grin:

Posted September 16, 2012 1:13 am 


te tumbo

it was pot-shotting mastery at its best. Martinez was simply to quick of fist and feet for Chavez Jr. to consistently time. nonetheless, as his father was shouting, “stop looking for the perfect punch and just Punch!” anyway, Chavez Jr. was dominated but along the way he avoided the KO and KD; he cut Martinez; and Damn-near K’imTFO. that’s already better than any of Martinez’s previous opponents with the exception of Margarito. what’s more, Jr. proved he is a Chavez with grit and corazon to spare. IMO, he’s compromising hiimself at 160lbs but the situation will only get worse at 168lbs. it’ll be interesting to watch what he does from here but i suggest that he either get serious and adopt a Hopkins-like dedication to maintaining an artificially low weight at 160lbs or prepare to banzai charge into the 168lb trenches.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:12 am 


Javielito

Both guys drinking from the same water bottle is symbolic of the respect and the admiration that both guys developed for one another over the course of the fight and no other gesture would have been bigger for boxing than that. Ok now I’m really leaving if I want to get some tonight. Peace!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:12 am 


Clinic

Hildago,I noticed that, Kellerman going on about the last round for Chavez, when is he going to go back to Martinez winning the fight, he didn’t because he is not a good enough analyst,commentator,Larry Merchant would of done better.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:12 am 


Anonymous

Agreed. Overrated

Posted September 16, 2012 1:09 am 


Its Me, Ernie

No class whatsoever.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:09 am 


te tumba

This FLOYDIOT IMBECILE (“The Prince”) is like the other half of the Dollar with no value whatsoever!!! RUBBISH!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:08 am 


The Prince

I watched the European broadcast. They gave Martinez big respect, despite the 12th round. In fact, they got on Chavez Jr. for his horrible 24/7 showing where it showed him not focusing on his training and ignoring Freddie Roach. But I’m not surprised by your report about HBO. They’ve been shown how biased they are with their commentary, and how they try to manipulate to audience into thinking one way. We saw it in spades during the Pacquiao and Bradley fight. Yes, Manny won it, but it wasn’t by a landslide.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:08 am 


Proud African

Chavez Jnr needs a trainer like Roger Mayweather or at least he should take his father’s advice more seriously.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:07 am 


Hidalgo

Jr. earned your respect? Why didn’t you have any for him before this fight? I said all along that Chavez could hurt Martinez and that Martinez shouldn’t get careless. He did and he got caught–after whipping Jr.s ass thoroughly for 11 rounds. But then he fought like a wildcat in round 12 to seal the win. Jr. was spectacular for one round. Sergio was spectacular for 12 rounds. That man’s a warrior!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:06 am 


Titopa

Chavez is STRONG!!!!! Wow. I am impressed by the fact that he can get his ass whooped for 11 rounds and still do what he did. Way out!!! But Martinez looks brilliant

Posted September 16, 2012 1:06 am 


Tommy G

I think that people arnt giving credit to Sergio because he did what was expected and chavez got the almost “win from behind” in the 12th.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:04 am 


Hidalgo

Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Martinez dominated Jr’s ass then he came back in the 12th to show how a true man and a true warrior fights. Incredibly impressive performance by Sergio!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:03 am 


Tom

great fight …Martinez dominated Chavez Jr. the whole fight. Chavez didn’t had no answer for Martinez footwork at all …though almost got away from Martinez on the last round …still got up and fought the whole round…great heart from both of them for not giving up at all. …at the end of the fight both were drinking from the same water bottle!! in My opinion Boxing won tonight !!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:02 am 


Javielito

Jr. doesn’t get my respect for winning one round. Any bum could win one round. He does however gets my respect for never quitting and never stop trying to win the fight. He showed heart today, but that is all he showed. I posted yesterday that Jr. would get punished and embarrassed by Martinez and that is exactly what happened tonight. Anyway. I just got back from the fight BTW and the crowd was probably one of the best I’ve ever seen outside of a soccer game. I’m back in the States for the first time in 6 months and back at the hotel with my wife. so let me get off before she finds out that I’m posting in here. So goodnight everyone and Peace!

Posted September 16, 2012 1:01 am 


This Gun For Hire

I don’t understand the comments suggesting had Chavez Jr. thrown more punches, he would have won the fight. He couldn’t throw more punches because Martinez nullified Jr.’s offense with his speed and angles. Martinez helped initiate the brawl, in the last couple rounds, by sitting down, getting careless, opening up more and letting his damn hands go and it almost proved catastrophic for him. Chavez Jr. should be commended for his heart, but Martinez was as equally gallant tonight (and that will be overlooked) against a much larger man.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:00 am 


Clinic

He was easily winning the fight for every round, it wasn’t like Calzaghe v Lacy,Calzaghe was hitting with hard shots against Lacy,totally outclassed him.Martinez could of went for the finish earlier, but he seems to be wary of gassing, I don’t think he will make that in the future, whoever he fights.

Posted September 16, 2012 1:00 am 


Juice

They can’t help themselves. Chavez almost killed all the hate with that hook tho. Martinez is a great fighter.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:59 am 


Hidalgo

As usual Jim Lampley the ignorant big mouth and Max Kellerman the tag-along-doll ranted an raved about Jr.s 12th round effort and near TKO of Maravilla. What they failed to do was to thoroughly acknowledge Martinez’s will to fight, to win, and to put it all on the line at any cost. Martinez wiped the mat Jr’s ass. He beat him up, worked him over. Then Lampley and Kellerman have an orgasm over one round. Two damn fools. Way to go Maravilla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BTW Chavez Jr.? You just got your ass handed to you on a platter. And it was all beat up.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:58 am 


Kangri

What’s up with Kellerman asking about a rematch!?! It was Boxing 101 until round 12… does not merit a rematch. Chavez schooled by the “old guy”

Posted September 16, 2012 12:56 am 


Anonymous

REAL TALK!!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:55 am 


Anonymous

Nope. He got lucky and caught him with a good shot lol. Why all the Chavez fans think he deserves to get a rematch?

Posted September 16, 2012 12:54 am 


Tommy G

yeah he did. Chavez suprised me in the 12th but he should have dug deep way earlier in the fight

Posted September 16, 2012 12:53 am 


northpaw

If you are dominated for 11 rounds…..dominated. And you win only half of the 12th. Sergio was firing with
him even after the knockdown, explain to me the reasoning for a rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:51 am 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Jr’s face looks like he got hit by mack truck. Damn! Maravilla took him to school and beat him up for 11 rounds, then got caught in the 12th. And then Jr. didn’t have enough to finish him off after the knockdown, which is sorry because he’s the biggest middle weight I’ve seen. He must have rehydrated to about 185lbs.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:50 am 


Clinic

Martinez will learn from this fight that he needs to lower the boom earlier,this will teach him.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:50 am 


mike

If you like Chavez as a fighter just say it. Any other fighter wouldn’t be respected for losing every round would they? Martinez showed you how to beat a man 3 weight divisions above your weight class.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:49 am 


siegfried

My prediction was “the Argentine will beat the Mexican and the Mexican will beat the Yankee” conclusion ….. I can see!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:49 am 


Mick

LMAO. Funniest comment of the night.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:49 am 


Hype

Although martinez dominated, can’t deny the fact that chavez almost had him out on his feet at the end tho. Chavez will be a great champ in the future

Posted September 16, 2012 12:46 am 


doc

Wow!!!! What a 12th round! Martinez clearly won the fight on points, but Chavez nearly pulled a rabbit out of his hat. I think that if Chavez would have comitted to a sustained body attack, and let his hands go earlier (like he did in the 10th, 11th, and 12th rounds), he would have been much more successful. In fact, Chavez Sr. gave him the best advice between rounds 8 and 9, and basically told Jr. to stop waiting to get set and punch. By the way, I wasn’t impressed at all with Roach’s advice in between rounds. Rematch anyone?

Posted September 16, 2012 12:45 am 


The Prince

Maybe Chavez Jr. will learn to not put off his training and take his fights seriously from now on. Genes don’t win you big fights, doing the work and preparation wins the big fights.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:41 am 


Johnstown

i bet freddy is twitching up a storm right now…

Posted September 16, 2012 12:39 am 


JoeKidd

Another loss for Roach. Roach just can’t get thru to his fighters on fight night. No inspiration. I think his fighters just see a feeble old man in there and they clue him out. If Roach could have gotten Chavez firing earlier, Martinez would have been toast. With all those shots, Martinez still was never going to KO Chavez, so Chavez just had to get firing!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:39 am 


tacoBENDER

Great fight!!! Chavez has proven that he belongs….R E M A T C H ! :mrgreen:

Posted September 16, 2012 12:38 am 


whiteman in d nial ali was truly the greatest

the fight turned out how i thought martinez to skilled

Posted September 16, 2012 12:34 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Chavez needed Brawndo, “Brawndo’s Got What Plants Crave, It’s Got Electrolytes.” Julio’s severe weight loss had to affect him, and he paid for it tonight. Julio, in the future you should remember to drink Brawndo – it’s got electrolytes (and you needed them after that severe weight cutting).

Posted September 16, 2012 12:34 am 


ozzy

Yes, I was only joking tho, Martinez won every round. I’d like Martinez to fight Golovkin next.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:33 am 


The Prince

Because despite getting completely dominated, he didn’t give up and he almost pulled off an upset like his father did against Medrice Taylor. I don’t hate Jr, so I can see both sides.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:32 am 


super_hook

please enough of this rematch nonsense he gave him a boxing lesson period

Posted September 16, 2012 12:30 am 


super_hook

how did he win your respect when he lost most of the rounds martinez just shows you how to beat a pressure fighter

Posted September 16, 2012 12:26 am 


The Prince

Congrats to the Judges for scoring the fight just, even when they had an excuse to take it from Martinez in the 12th. But again, Chavez Jr. is his father’s son. He earned my respect. Rematch.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:24 am 


SweetBox

Obviously ur not

Posted September 16, 2012 12:21 am 


ozzy

Well I’d watch a rematch :mrgreen:

Posted September 16, 2012 12:21 am 


Boxtradamus

I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:20 am 


The Prince

Chavez Jr. earned my respect, but Martinez still won the fight. He might not get the decision though.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:20 am 


ozzy

Martinez almost lost it!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:19 am 


Frochy

lol

Posted September 16, 2012 12:19 am 


The Prince

Chavez jr, pulled a Medrice Taylor.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:18 am 


ozzy

my god

Posted September 16, 2012 12:18 am 


ozzy

Chavez is a brave kid tho

Posted September 16, 2012 12:17 am 


Boxtradamus

Chavez Jr. is being brutally beaten just as I predicted!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted September 16, 2012 12:17 am 


The Prince

Chavez Jr. finally finds some offense earlier in the round, but Martinez answers back big. I have a bad feeling if this goes to the judges for Martinez. Round 12…

Posted September 16, 2012 12:17 am 


Frochy

Demolishing him. Shut out easy

Posted September 16, 2012 12:16 am 


AD

Martinez has put the clown shoes on Chavez. It`s just embarassing.

Posted September 16, 2012 12:13 am 


The Prince

Martinez is dominating and Chavez Jr. is starting to fight dirty. Roach just told Chavez Jr. he needs a KO to win. Is a robbery in the making?

Posted September 16, 2012 12:12 am 


The Prince

Right now, it’s round 10. Martinez is putting on a clinic, but Chavez Jr.s punches are stronger and one of them caused a bad cut. He still has a punchers chance. Good fight

Posted September 16, 2012 12:10 am 


super_hook

rd 10 90-81 martinez

Posted September 16, 2012 12:09 am 


Anonymous

What round is it?

Posted September 16, 2012 12:07 am 


The Prince

Chavez Jr. got the toughness of his father working for him. It might help him in the championship rounds, if Martinez doesn’t stop him first.

Posted September 15, 2012 11:57 pm 


EZ E

BOXTRA We agree again!! Amazing!! Easy call this one. So far it’s been a perfect night & doubt seriously that Chavez will change things.

Posted September 15, 2012 11:54 pm 


ozzy

I was totally wrong Chavez Jr hasn’t imposed himself at all – however Martinez is using up a lot of energy.

Posted September 15, 2012 11:51 pm 


The Prince

Martinez is putting on a boxing clinic so far, and he seemed to studied the school of Mayweather shoulder defense. Will it last?

Posted September 15, 2012 11:44 pm 


ozzy

Chavez Jr has a knee bandage thing on – must have injured his knee?

Posted September 15, 2012 11:34 pm 


Boxtradamus

SKILLS is more important than AGE!!!

Posted September 15, 2012 11:29 pm 


The Mexecutioner

prediction: a whole lot of women and girls will get beat-up tonight by their drunk Mexican “machismo” boyfriends and husbands who are butt-hurt angry about Jr. getting KTFO by the great Maravilla.

Posted September 15, 2012 11:28 pm 


Boxtradamus

Just a few moments until the beginning of Jr’s demise. It has to be a bad feeling to get whooped in front of your pops

Posted September 15, 2012 11:26 pm 


SergioDaLoser

prediction: Maravilla, will go back to argentina crying. Then he will hang himself from the highest tree. :mrgreen:

Posted September 15, 2012 11:20 pm 


Frochy

AD – You are a legend. Cheers mate

Posted September 15, 2012 11:19 pm 


Squared-Circle (a.k.a. LionKing)

Prediction: Maravilla will win by stoppage and silence the Mexican crowd.

Posted September 15, 2012 11:17 pm 


tarmy

Old Willie still got it I guess. never struck me as a boxer type but hey

Posted September 15, 2012 11:04 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Yup nobodys perfect…..but Donaire is fighting Nishioka next so it’s not like he’ll look invincible either……that being said he got hit hard, but never lost his composure and you could see Marroquin was bigger,heavier and a harder puncher….you get hit, suck it up and win.

Posted September 15, 2012 10:25 pm 


The Prince

I liked how Ringo was holding back the whole night, hoping to finally get Doniare in the ring. We’ll see if it worked.

Posted September 15, 2012 10:21 pm 


Frochy

any links guys. Got the Alvarez link but would rather watch Martinez or both! :grin:

Posted September 15, 2012 10:21 pm 


ozzy

I agree the guy’s a genius. However he showed vulnerability tonight in rounds 3 and 9 (if I remember right) and Donaire will have been very interested to see that.

Posted September 15, 2012 10:13 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Rigondeux is so beautiful….don’t know if he can beat them all….or if he’s everybodys taste….but the things he does in the ring is seriously breathtaking…..hope he won’t get knocked out in the near future…so we can keep enjoying his boxing.

Posted September 15, 2012 9:58 pm 



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