LOLPosted September 14, 2013 9:25 am
So posting stuff on an internet forum is now a craft??? ffs that’s how delusinal folk are on these places. You know about as much about boxing as I know about spelling! n I don’t know if I should have put that explanation mark there after spelling lolPosted September 14, 2013 8:20 am
SDOUCHEMAN..,, Dumbest MFer alive.
Lefthook.., I learned my craft in the real world.Posted September 14, 2013 1:34 am
Gee Tark you have been paying attention to gain that knowlage, Where u learn that, other guys posts lmaoPosted September 13, 2013 8:51 pm
Old Yank.., You know trying to fight every second of every round is a dumb strategy — now that I pointed it out to you. You won’t see Canelo doing that.
Because he’s not as knowledgeable as you??? No… because he knows you have to keep changing it up with Floyd … and give him different looks, different speeds, different, intensities, different levels of aggression and movement. He changes it up more than Floyd does, so you’re going to see a chess match without a checkmate. It will be close.Posted September 13, 2013 5:38 pm
No, I liked the girls.., You liked the boys.., To each his own.Posted September 13, 2013 5:18 pm
WOW TED THE BuLL SARES KID Blast IT;S WAS EITHER 2002 0R 2oo3 whuen i came on esb ESB WISH Y’ALL STOP TELLING ME TOSLOWDOWNPosted September 13, 2013 3:25 pm
Mayweather will concentrate on just slippingp punches andcounterpunching every Cnelo initiative for the 1st few rounds. Canelo will get frustrated missing his shots and getting counterpunched. Canelo will just follow Maweather around the ring in the later rounds ala. Guerero. Canelo’ s best chances are to do damage in the first few rounds.Posted September 13, 2013 2:45 pm
Fight Aficionado , the Corona girls make me think evil thoughtsPosted September 13, 2013 1:38 pm
WOW HARD to belive IT BEEN EITHER 2002 OR 2003 I FIRST CAMEPosted September 13, 2013 1:21 pm
Good to see Kid Blast and Yank here during fight week. Kid, they don’t make Swallowers like they used to. Chicks nowadays act sexualized but many are in fact prude. But these Corona ring card girls — confirmed Swallowers.Posted September 13, 2013 12:45 pm
TARK — WOW Tark, is that from your kid’s book? Did you write that all by yourself. Fighters do a lot of different things in the ring? Really? None of us out here knew that! Thanks so much for sharing. Did you bring anything to today’s class for show-and-tell?Posted September 13, 2013 11:36 am
I am simply pointing out that “fighting” every second of every round is a stupid strategy whoever you’re fighting—especially if you have the all around skills of Canelo. You use every tool, skill, and advantage you have.
You box some… You fight some… You step up the intensity… You bring it down… You retreat… You try to control the pace and the ring space… You grab the lead on all the scorecards … and keep it.
Canelo did a masterful job of this during his Trout fight. Saul fought a bigger, taller, rangier, supposedly slicker opponent … and flummoxed him…
You do what your opponent doesn’t expect.
Like Floyd attacking Mosley in the 3rd round. That was very unexpected and paid very fat dividends for the rest of the fight. That wasn’t the advice Floyd was given after the 2nd round. Roger told Floyd to box. Floyd grinned and thought, “Ahh… NO!”
I’m talking to a bunch of non-listeners here.Posted September 13, 2013 11:31 am
That is TARK’s way to say: I’m smarter than you! Mind games…it is annoying.Posted September 13, 2013 10:45 am
PPV UGHPosted September 13, 2013 10:01 am
12 boring rounds….Fraud will run to a decision with Canelo chasing him all nite. Sad for fans to fork out that kind of money to see a track meet, pop and tag match for 12 rounds. BOYCOTT PPV!Posted September 13, 2013 9:01 am
Dan Rafael says….wait…who gives a d–k what that fat pig oinks? Where is pretty boy Hauser?Posted September 13, 2013 8:56 am
GLAd you on here ted esb can be meanPosted September 13, 2013 8:50 am
Would the person closest to TARK please slap him up-side the head! Thank you! If you just happen to have a roll of duct tape too, well…that would be a huge BONUS!Posted September 13, 2013 8:31 am
TARK you really are impossible!!!
Old Yank says.. “Playing defense is FIGHTING! Using your footwork to position yourself to fight or to cut off the ring is FIGHTING. Taking time off by doing next to nothing is not fighting.”
WRONG!!! Using footwork to retreat is not fighting… It’s boxing.Posted September 13, 2013 5:02 am
all I read is arguments on here….like children fighter over a swing……..people talk about mayweather has all the advantages but for me that’s not true…..speed yes…..but leonard had more speed than duran but he was outfought 1st fight……..Camacho against chavez…and camacho was battered by a relentless fighter in chavez……..timing with always over ride speed if thrown correct……canelo has great skills also….very composed….great body puncher…….accurate combinatons…….fast hands……size.youth and more power……….all you peeps just one more thing…….canelo has what it takesPosted September 13, 2013 3:16 am
the bottom line is this, Floyd will whip CaneloPosted September 13, 2013 2:42 am
Canelo is gonna look flat as 152 starving him! Mayweather will dominatePosted September 13, 2013 12:52 am
Old Yank says.. “Playing defense is FIGHTING! Using your footwork to position yourself to fight or to cut off the ring is FIGHTING. Taking time off by doing next to nothing is not fighting.”
WRONG!!! Using footwork to retreat is not fighting… It’s boxing.
When a trainer tells you, “Box this round” he means move, jab, feint, counter don’t lead, and use the whole ring to stay out of intense exchanges, i.e. fighting.
If he tells you, “You have to go after him. Get close and start throwing. We have to fight him, we’re not going to win a boxing match.” … He wants you to get into intense exchanges where your superior firepower and toughness might prevail.Posted September 13, 2013 12:28 am
“Oscar never stunned Floyd.” Yes he did Peej. That’s why Floyd tied him up so much.Posted September 13, 2013 12:20 am
“….I’m SO SO ” You got that right Braggadamus.Posted September 13, 2013 12:14 am
Supreme Court.., Whatever you do on the break, you DON’T fight.. Best thing to do is relax while staying alert.. You take a mini break, but your opponent might punch you on the break so you’re alert.
Boxing and fighting are two different levels of intensity. Canelo boxed for much of the Trout fight.
And if you have to take a round off after winning a real big round trying to finish your opponent off??? You box.. You feint.. You move.. You defend.. You use finesse.. You tie your man up.. You recover your strength.. Then you can go back to being your aggressive track-down-and-kill self.Posted September 13, 2013 12:07 am
I have to go with Canelo. Im not convinced that Mayweather is as good as the sparring match with a mediocre Guerrero made him out to be. There were several openings Robert to exiot in that fight and he just did not possess the tools to capitalize. My instincts say that in spite of his kack of experience in performing on a stage this BIG ,Canelo will rise to the occasion and take either a decision or force a stoppage. Youth will be served this Saturday night. A lot of scribes and boxers themselves will be suprised.People are underestimating this Alvarez in my view and not givinf him enough credit for his ability. This will prove interesting to say the least. Peace and strength.Posted September 12, 2013 10:38 pm
Damn…I’d really, REALLY love to see a site with the BEST writers be THE MOST VISITED site on the web. But being stubborn as a bull will get some folks NOWHERE! DON’T TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, I’ve only been successful in building and selling businesses that range from roofing and siding to high-tech distribution and everything in between, so I should be ignored for ever suggesting that “WE CAN OWN THIS BUSINESS!”
Yup, business is conducted in odd ways in the cyber world.
Or perhaps I’ve assumed too much.Posted September 12, 2013 10:32 pm
Kid Blast — I AGREE! The fans are the top of the pyramid! They, even if it is some savant kind of thing, get it right an amazing percentage of the time! And…send this to your esteemed editor,,,this is why FANS trump WRITERS!Posted September 12, 2013 10:24 pm
Could you imagine how corrupt and censored this sport could become if someone had a net worth capable of buying up four of the top five boxing web sites? FU*K! That would be really, REALLY bad, right?
I assure you that there are people with a net worth capable of doing so. However anyone with a net worth capable of doing so would need to be really, REALLY stupid to do so because there is NO REAL MONEY to be made in the boxing web site business!
How do I know?
After building, buying and selling several businesses, let’s just say that I know!
in the sport of nobles and kings…anything is possible just for the FU*K of it!
The history of boxing is dark, really, REALLY dark and it has ALWAYS been the sport of nobles, princes and kings. And that is what surfs have always been kept their place.
NOTE: I’ve spent more money on a single bottle of wine than 98% of the globe has spent on a year’s worth of mortgage payments. And drank it with friends who never knew how much each sip was worth!Posted September 12, 2013 10:09 pm
“How petty can you get?” DAMN GOOD QUESTION!Posted September 12, 2013 9:51 pm
What’s curious here is how we (the posters) ignore the predictions of the Writers and Boxers cited in the article. I have always maintained that most solid posters know more about the art of boxing than wimpish or obese buffet diving writers most of whom were moist dreams before the fight they write about even took place. Like some 25 year old writer can describe the pungent alchemy of what a 1958 Boxing arena smelled like back in the day.
Please pass the puke bucket.Posted September 12, 2013 9:50 pm
Fight Aficionado, how are the SF Swallowers, buddy?Posted September 12, 2013 9:43 pm
It’s Me, Ernie — You’ve got the beat, rhythm, melody and the whole damn tune down perfectly.Posted September 12, 2013 9:09 pm
Kid Blast — Censorship is a bi-otch!Posted September 12, 2013 9:07 pm
LOVE U BROTHER!Posted September 12, 2013 9:05 pm
I SHALL use Old Yank’s excellent posts on another site and put them in quotes so as not to come off as a sleaze bag.Posted September 12, 2013 7:30 pm
Canelo’s gonna lose for one MAJOR reason when all the phony technical jargon and BS are removed.. SPEEEEEEEDDDDD Floyd Mayweather has too much hand and foot speed and he is blessed to be as fresh in the 12th if not fresher than he is in the 1st round… Alvarez is gonna have a guy moving and tagging him EVERYTIME he makes a mistake and he WILL make those mistakes…One fight with Austin Trout does not brand him a Masterboxer, he has very good skills but Floyd has HISTORICALLY ELITE skills…. Meaning FEW men in the history of the sport mastered the art of Hit and Don’t get hit to the extent he has done… Cotto giving him a bloody nose was damn near worthy of a parade and Cotto is a guy with MASSIVE World Level experience… No matter we are gonna see what a speed differential looks like between these two…Posted September 12, 2013 6:57 pm
The Truth, you’re right man.Posted September 12, 2013 5:38 pm
Idiot Ernie and Anonymous$.., Same stupid jerk.Posted September 12, 2013 5:20 pm
I’ve trained a few champions… not hundreds… I’ve tained hundreds of fighters from scratch … pre sub-novice, off the street, never pulled a glove on kids who didn’t know a jab from a jib.Posted September 12, 2013 5:17 pm
Ernie you’re great!!! LOL!!!!Posted September 12, 2013 4:59 pm
TARK — YOU TOTAL FOOL! Playing defense is FIGHTING! Using your footwork to position yourself to fight or to cut off the ring is FIGHTING. Taking time off by doing next to nothing is not fighting. Canelo will need to fight all 3 minutes in order to beat Mayweather. If he takes his typical intra-round, mini-vacations he can’t win! And he can’t regulate his gas tank without taking mini-vacations. You are IMPOSSIBLE! Please ignore me forever!Posted September 12, 2013 4:47 pm
Sounds like you need to watch fights more closely. I have seen many fights where the fighter is rocked and then gone on to walk the other fighter down. Did you see Kirkland vs Angulo? Kirkland did the same thing. I have seen that plenty of times. I have seen Lenox rocked in the first couple of rounds only to not be bothered by any of there punches once he was warmed up. Floyd got caught in the second round and was not almost KOd, he had all his senses about him, had enough sense to put his hands up and then had enough sense to make an adjustment and walk him down.
AT LEAST I’M NOT A HYPOCRITE AND LIAR!!Posted September 12, 2013 3:36 pm
@ PEEJ, You really should watch those fights again and get a clear picture. With the Shane Mosley fight, I have been watching fights all my life and have participated in them as well. I have never seen a fighter get damn near KO and then throw cautions to the wind and walks that fighter down like he was superman, like I say, can we say Politics.
NO YOU DID NOT!!!
AND YES I DID READ EVERY PHUKIN SINGLE POST RE ARREOLA/MITCHELL!!!Posted September 12, 2013 3:06 pm
YES I DID!!! I guess you don’t read every post I put up.Posted September 12, 2013 2:59 pm
I consistently said, in several posts, that Arreloa was going to knock Mithchell out before the fight…
TARK, NO you did NOT!!!Posted September 12, 2013 2:47 pm
And to Anonymou$..,
You’re taking my post out of context.., I consistently said, in several posts, that Arreloa was going to knock Mithchell out before the fight… I did say he should outbox him with ease if he had the required skills—because he has the speed and athletic talent to do that to a heavyweight like Arreola—who doesn’t defend well—but he lacks those skills.
I also said, before the fight, that it’s heartbreaking Seth doesn’t have any clinching or defensive skills a kid with 15 amateur fights should have. He just has very bad coaching.
There are many artists, who once they’ve had significant training, can develop outstanding skills on their own: artists, painters, sculptors, jugglers, singers, comedians, pianists, and whatever are only limited by their desire and the number of hours they want to put into developing their craft.
Skilled athletes like boxers, basketball players, synchronized swimmers can develop only so far on their own. They’re limited by the expertise of their coaching and the strength of their team. You reach a professional level where you can’t run opponents over with size, strength, and speed. You need skills—and Mitchell doesn’t have them. I’ve said that consistently.Posted September 12, 2013 2:41 pm
Kid Blast has the beatPosted September 12, 2013 2:40 pm
Sorry fighting words but you look at only 1 or 2 rounds of each of those fighters and say what success they have had. Mosley didn’t run out of gas, he got whooped. He pissed Floyd off after rocking him and from that point on he started walking him down and he couldn’t land anything else on Floyd. Going to the Zab fight, yes he won 2 out of the first 4 rounds. But he also low blowed Floyd then hit him behind the head with the follow up punch. That should of been an immediate disqualification. Ortiz wasn’t having much success either accept for taking punches to the head. Cotto yes had some success with the jab but that is because he throws it different ways not to mention Floyd stood infront of him the whole fight. Canelo does not have the variety of jabs the way Cotto does. And none of that had anything to do with the Pac fight not being made.Posted September 12, 2013 2:37 pm
and that’s what I’m hoping is the ending.Posted September 12, 2013 2:36 pm
@ Heckdog – I agree with you %100Posted September 12, 2013 2:31 pm
‘m hoping for. The Canelo vs Floyd media machine has done a great job of putting out the word on this Media Made Mega Fight. The truth is that most big fights don’t ever live up to the hype. This one will be no different. Canelo and Floyd are both counter punchers. Both guys don’t really like to take chances. Both know that this is the biggest fight of their lives, and the loser will forever have to live with a loss. The reality is that Floyd Mayweather is head and toes above this young 23 year old. Floyd has fought the best of his time albeit old and small, but he has gained valuable experience. He’s an Olympian, and he comes from a family that has a lot of boxing knowledge. Canelo can’t stylistically beat an experienced, quality boxer that fights the same style. Canelo’s only advantage is power. He’s not a smooth agile fighter. Floyd will be able to see Canelos punches coming from miles away. That favorite left hook he counts on is too wide. Canelo doesn’t throw many punches per round. He tries backing up at times, but he’s not a natural moving boxer that can change directions effortlessly. He needs to be planted firmly to throw his strong punches. This fight is being sold on the new young lions vs the old lion. USA vs Mexico. The innocent red headed, freckled faced, light skin Mexican kid with the Hollywood looks, vs the filthy rich, conceded, no one is better than me villain. In the end, both guys will keep their distance, and Floyd’s speed should be able to handle Canelo fairly easy. Canelo’s only real chance is for Floyd to get caught in an exchange, as well as age catching up to him. If the catch weight catches up with Canelo, you’ll see a stoppage between rounds 10-12 otherwise, it will be a UD for Floyd Mayweather. Remember, always bet with your head not your heart. Floyd has clear advantages all the way around. I really hope I’m wrong, and would love to see Canelo KO Floyd, but it’s going to take a lot for Canelo to win. It may take a miracle, and that’s whatPosted September 12, 2013 2:26 pm
It is remarkable how everyone is picking Mayweather to win, and it appears that those who did pick Canelo to win only picked him to go against the grain. I am confident picking Canelo to win whether he wins or not. The people who say that Mayweather have this amazing defense and he is hard to hit, or he don’t get hit has not been watching Mayweather last few fights, Victor Ortiz was hitting him and probably would have won if he would have kept his cool and just fought, but of course politics with the head but, there is shane Mosley, crack him good with a right and could have stopped him, but all of a suddent in this particular fight Shane runs out of gases after rocking Mayweather and mind you, this was only the second round can we say politics, lets not forget that Zab Juda made Mayweather glove touch the mat and all of sudden Uncle Roger is in the ring the next round and Juda get suspended, This brings us to Cotto who was touching Mayweather a lot, but he has been too damage to mount a very good aggressive attack to win the fight. Remember these have been Mayweather most recent fights, We can look to this to explain why he avoids Pacquanioa. Life always reveals our true colors, Mayweather is not a true WW, he just have been given passes by the best fighters in the divison. Let us not forget, Mayweather did not pick Canelo, Showtime did since thay are paying Mayeather so much money, they needs to get a good return on their investment.Posted September 12, 2013 2:21 pm
TED THE BULL SARES KID BLAST BEST WRITER ESB EVER HADPosted September 12, 2013 2:03 pm
Canelo cannot execute what’s needed without taking mini-vacations during rounds — even in his most impressive outings with A-rated fighters he needed intra-round, mini-vacations in order to stretch his gas tank. Mayweather’s ring IQ is so good that he will take advantage and score points during Canelo’s mini-vacations. I do not believe it possible to beat Mayweather without fighting every second of every round. I do not believe physiologically Canelo is built to do that. Mayweather via 117-111 or 116-112 UD. Should Canelo’s mini-vacations start before the end of the 4th, then the low probability stoppage by Mayweather increases in probability.Posted September 12, 2013 1:52 pm
Good to see Kid Blast in the house. Zup mang… yeah I don’t know why I deal with the “posting too fast” nonsense. Habit, and fact I like seeing longtime fellow ESBers.Posted September 12, 2013 1:48 pm
Hidalgo, Canelo does not have Oscar’s ring IQ and could not do that with Floyd. Canelo’s best chance is to fight continuously, but I can’t see that either. He is doomed style-wise.
But I get your point on the rematch. And it’s a good one.Posted September 12, 2013 1:33 pm
I got Floyd by 12UD decision. Like most of you say, Floyd is going to move around and box all night. No way he goes toe to toe with Canelo who is going to most likely outweigh Floyd by 20 pounds. This will be nothing like Pac vs Margarito. Canelo can fight, has better footwork, can punch he is a way better fighter than Margarito. One landed punch on Floyds face can change the whole direction of this fight, whereas Floyd is going to have to wear him down. Both situations are not out of the question. That is why I’m going to watch this fight!Posted September 12, 2013 1:21 pm
Oscar never stunned Floyd. A lot of Oscars punches were not landing either. He throws flurries but none of them land. Same think happened in the second Mosley fight. Now Floyd did stun Oscar I think it was the 4th round where he got caught with a counter right and Oscar grabbed the ropes with quickness.Posted September 12, 2013 1:01 pm
Kid Blast, you said:
“There is monster money to be made in a rematch should Mayweather somehow lose. Thus a disgraceful decision against Floyd is not totally out of the realm of possibility,”
Unless Mayweather blows Canelo out of the water or stops him, I don’t see why a rematch wouldn’t be appropriate. I mean if it’s very close but Canelo loses, it’s totally reasonable for Canelo to call for a rematch–Showtime too. Of course that clause has to be in the contract.
BTW, I think Canelo will perform very well for about six rounds. Then we’ll start to see the catchweight take its toll on him. He’ll slow down, punch less, and engage less. That’s when Floyd will amp it up.
But IMO, the best way for Canelo to fight Floyd is to fight him the same way Oscar did–especially in the later rounds of that fight. Patient aggression mixed in with 5-10 punch flurries. Oscar stunned Floyd on several occasions and also outpunched a number of times. He also blocked a large number of Floyd’s punches–especially jabs–with his gloves (I really think Floyd was given more credit for punches that didn’t connect than he should have been). That’s why Floyd was tying him up and making those “you didn’t hurt me” smiles so much. Even though he still lost, Oscar fought a strategically sound fight. In fact, Oscar scored better against Floyd than any other welter or jr. middle has.Posted September 12, 2013 12:38 pm
“AND I AM NOT POSTING TOO QUICKLY God Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
LMAO! I threw my other computer off a cliff yesterday.Posted September 12, 2013 12:21 pm
Ernie and Anonymous, sorry to burst your bubbles boys (and yeah I’m sticking my nose into this argument without invitation), but Tark did pick Arreola by KO. In three different threads:
Tark also said he only gave Mitchell an outside shot to beat Arreola.
Tark made all these comments before the fight happened.
Eat your crow with humility, boys. I’ve had to on several occasions. All you need is a lot of salt and a clothespin.Posted September 12, 2013 12:20 pm
AND I AM NOT POSTING TOO QUICKLY God Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Posted September 12, 2013 12:19 pm
That quote was from Old YankPosted September 12, 2013 12:17 pm
TARK… says I had Arreola by KO…
That’s a LIE!!!
You wrote: Mitchell should out-box Arreola with ease… It should be a one-sided affair.Posted September 12, 2013 12:15 pm
There is monster money to be made in a rematch should Mayweather somehow lose. Thus a disgraceful decision against Floyd is not totally out of the realm of possibility, particularly in Las Vegas where money talks and walks—no pun intended. While highly-respected Kenny Bayless will be the referee, Judge C.J. Ross is cause for concern as she will be remembered for scoring the Pacquiao-Bradley fight for Bradley, 115-113. Craig Metcalfe is less established and experienced, and this hardly seems the fight for a learning experience. Thankfully, Dave Moretti is solid.
Another caveat is if Canelo cannot reach 152, comes in overweight, pays whatever fine is posted, and Team Alvarez informs Team Mayweather that what was good for Juan Manuel Marquez should be good for Floyd. Then Alvarez becomes an even more formidable opponent, not that he should be taken lightly at the catchweight—again no pun intended.
Everything that needs to be said has been said. Indeed, if ever a fight has been overhyped, this is The One.Posted September 12, 2013 12:12 pm
“I made MY prediction before the Fight was even announced and I can’t wait to celebrate it with a Victory Cigar on Saturday night!!”
I made it before you did.Posted September 12, 2013 12:02 pm
Eleanor the withered hag froim NYC
any writer for the RING is, by definition, conflicted.Posted September 12, 2013 11:53 am
Eleanor the withered hag froim NYC
Gordon Marino WRITES FOR BOXING.COMPosted September 12, 2013 11:51 am
Eleanor the withered hag froim NYC
Those scribes read like a list of real buffet divers and slime balls.Posted September 12, 2013 11:50 am
Anonymou$.., I had Arreola by KO… That’s not a miss
I didn’t pick a round but I was really hoping Seth could make a few rounds. I made no prediction there.
I was pulling for him but I pull for a lot of overmatched fighters coming from other sports, who have big dreams, a lot of heart, and a late start.Posted September 12, 2013 11:34 am
I believe Floyd is like a 3 to 1 now, maybe a tad bit more.Posted September 12, 2013 10:56 am
THE SHOW STOPPER
CANELO KO’S FLOYD IN THE FIRST ROUND WATCH AND SEE !!!!!!Posted September 12, 2013 10:52 am
Evidently, all the self proclaimed “EXPERTS” on hear know way more then the Vegas odds makers do…. 2.5 to 1.. may be less come fight time. They should all quit their day jobs, bet their whole lives savings on Floyd, since in all reality, he’s like a 50 to 1 favorite on these boards, where the real experts know whats up.Posted September 12, 2013 10:49 am
Seems everyone going for Mayweather….. what do the boxing pundits know… they all fought don Curry would beat Lloyd Honeyghan… we all know what happened in that fight…. the winner was….. Honeyghan. I would like Floyd to win just to see the look on the dress wearing promoters face!!Posted September 12, 2013 10:36 am
I like the way Floyd does not have his shades on during this stare down. One person in particular made a bid deal about him always wearing his shades during the press tour. Haven’t really seen home post to much because he was wrong a lot of the times anyways. But looks like Floyd is gonna go to work on Saturday.Posted September 12, 2013 10:02 am
IF THERE BOTH AS GREAT AS YOU LOT MAKE OUT, THAN IT SHOULD BE A GREAT FIGHT. SIMPLE.Posted September 12, 2013 8:41 am
carlos molina over ishe SMITH SATURDAYPosted September 12, 2013 8:37 am
matthysse caneloPosted September 12, 2013 8:35 am
This is all about Canelo finally getting his huge Paycheck after being spoon fed a long diet of shot smaller over the hill fighters while havinga 20+lb weight advantage.. everyone knows Canelo is going to get his big floppy ears boxed off including Canelo but it doesn’t matter because the goal has been met.. Canelo is now a Millionaire thanks to the carefully run Hype Machine.. Canelo Fans will have to realize they’ve been suckered into believing in this do nothing kid..Posted September 12, 2013 7:29 am
ZIMMERMAN is Mexican
Canelo’s Hype Machine is going to break down thanks to Floyd Mayweather… Send this Red Headed fake Mexican back to TijuanaPosted September 12, 2013 7:24 am
TARK YOU’RE A HYPOCRITE!!! MAJOR FLUB???
TARK WROTE…Boxtra.., You just picked Mitchell to crush Arreola — MAJOR flub.
The only guy who can make a statement in this fight is Seth.. if he scores an amazing upset by emerging victorious by any means.. Even is it’s another Banks job he shouldn’t care.. Win one way or another.
mayweather wins this easily on points but it will be an interesting fight for awhile because Canelo will always have a punchers chance. Problem for him is that Floyd NEVER makes mistakes!!!!! Defensive fighters actually get better with age(see Hopkins). Floyd will be too fast and slippery for Canelo; couple this with Canelo’s average work-rate and you have stretches where Floyd gets to do what he wants. If Canelo can win the first 2-3 rounds he has a chance but if mayweather wins the first two, its OVER before it even begins cause Floyd will potshot him for the next ten rounds.Posted September 12, 2013 3:32 am
Floyd takes Alvarez to school, and gives him a good whippin, ya digPosted September 12, 2013 3:28 am
And why would you get nervous that I think Floyd will WIN??? I thought he would WIN his last 44 Fights and he DID. Thats called CONSISTENCY.Posted September 12, 2013 2:33 am
Thats why you need to go to the doctor and get checked out for Alzeimers. Because I get them right SO much that it becomes SICKENING. SO if you think that I get them wrong alot you have a MEMORY problem.Posted September 12, 2013 2:31 am
You’ll go really wrong if Canelo wins… I makes me a little nervous that you think Floyd will win, because you’re wrong so often.Posted September 12, 2013 2:07 am
Well that’s what you get for thinking that I was similar to YOURSELF. I don’t perform sexual acts on Men. I have sexual acts performed on ME by women….I’m still deciding IF I want to head down to Vegas this weekend…I may just stay in LA, place MY bet online, and hit the bar. Either way I can’t go wrong.Posted September 12, 2013 2:00 am
I knew nothing about either Fighter and took someone elses word for it and that’s why I don’t DO that anymore…. Even then I didn’t take the LOSER.Posted September 12, 2013 1:50 am
Boxtra… You picked Oosthiuszen to beat Gonzales and you were wrong also.
That wasn’t a high level fight… You were trying to nail a freebie…Posted September 12, 2013 1:47 am
Seth learned enough after the Banks fight to survive the 2nd one… But Banks is not a heavyweight. You hope a guy learns something each fight — and is really bearing down and learning.. Chris is just not working on the right skills and has nobody to teach him clinching and defense..
Wladimir called Steward and Manny said, “I was expecting your call.”
It’s a shame. But he beat the crap out of 25 guys with the same problem.Posted September 12, 2013 1:43 am
I love Boxing but I’m into HIGH level Boxing not garbage. Arreola and Mitchell are subpar SO I didn’t even watch the Fight because I knew it would be garbage….Just as I love food. But I don’t eat garbage.Posted September 12, 2013 1:41 am
BUSTAJAY…, Same scenario as Khan and Bruno..
As soon as Seth stopped punching he was toast… Doesn’t have a defense or a trainer who can teach him a defense…
Arreola was probably surprised as well. Arreola comes out and connects with 3 punches.. Then he decides to defend.. Chris was smart enough to know all he had to do was get close and throw.
Seth is the most pathetic defender I’ve ever seen at this level.Posted September 12, 2013 1:37 am
BUSTAJAY- Well then you’d better go take a SEEING class. Because MY predictions are on the money 95% of the time. And they will be on the money once again this weekend….Please learn how to tell the difference between MY posts and MY fans posts….I’m the Bill Russell, Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron of Boxing predictions. Fans put MY name on their posts just like they put the guys names that I just mentioned on their BACKS….I’m SO SO sorry that your brain is SO feeble that you were FOOLED by that.Posted September 12, 2013 1:36 am
Jim Rich…, Bruno was toast the whole way… He didn’t have a defense. As soon as the stopped punching he was biting the dust.
Like Amir Khan. Khan stops punching against a guy like Danny Garcia??? Forget it.. Amir tried to run.. That was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.Posted September 12, 2013 1:31 am
CORRECTION. …between 2 #0 P4P NON Championship Contenders. Didn’t spark MY interest.Posted September 12, 2013 1:27 am
TARK you also said the fight would go beyond SEVERAL rounds and that SETH had a chance….round 1…..don’t worry about if you have to run to get a beer it might be over…NOT
I expected a few hard rounds myself….at least 5…..damn SETH
BOXTRADOMUMBASS your predictions are always WRONGPosted September 12, 2013 1:26 am
No need to lie TARK. I didn’t make any pick in the Fight. I rarely make any picks between two NON Championship Contenders. I wasn’t interested.Posted September 12, 2013 1:26 am
testPosted September 12, 2013 1:19 am
Well I think back to the Frank Bruno vs Lennox Lewis fight on HBO Jim lampley, larry merchant where the consensus was after 6 rounds that they can’t believe Bruno won all 6 rounds and basically was making lennox lewis look like a bar room bum. They commented this is the heavyweight champ of the world here getting schooled by bruno. Well another round goes by and Lennox Lewis KO’s Bruno, why?. Bruno gassed, he blew his load so to speak and that was it, lewis had him. So there are ways for Canelo to win if he has the endurance and stamina to out work, outlast mayweather. He has to be able to get in some openings when mayweather gets fatigued and makes mistakes. Can Canelo pull of that stategy, maybe to some extent, mayweather is human, gets tired. I’d like to see Canelo outwork Mayweather and keep mayweather from resting. I guess the question also is how tired will Canelo get trying to employ that type of strategy. It’s definitly a fight with intrigue, to see if Canelo can do what no one else has been able to do and beat mayweather somehow.Posted September 12, 2013 1:16 am
Is anyone actually in Vegas for this fight? I don’t see any fellow ESB posters or writers for the site talking as if they’re onsite. What gives? I remember a few years ago we had Vivek, Manchester Giant and a bunch of others talking shiat from the Strip. Now we don’t get the color of Fight Week. Don’t care how many press releases GBP issues, it’s not the same.Posted September 12, 2013 1:14 am
Come on Boxtra.., Don’t lie.. 3 or 4 times you picked Mitchell with no refutation.Posted September 12, 2013 1:07 am
Among the boxers, only Rafael Marquez is picking Canelo—and he got knocked out this last weekend, which may explain it.
Among the boxers only Bernard Hopkins, Carlos Molina, and Gary Russell see the fight somewhat like I do—a close contest that could turn either way. I’m surprised by the near unanimous opinion that Floyd is too good and Canelo is too green.
Among the media personalities only 4 or 5 see Canelo winning—with about 50 picking Floyd. The few times I saw the media in this much agreement on a fight they were dead wrong … Ali-Norton I… Tyson-Douglas and Tyson-Holyfield I … Mosley vs Forrest I … and way back, Liston-Clay I … The funny thing is, 95% picked Tyson over both Douglas and HolyfieldPosted September 12, 2013 1:05 am
NO I DIDN’T. One of MY fans DID though….and that’s why using MY name is LESSER than using MY gift for picking the WINNER.Posted September 12, 2013 1:05 am
Boxtra.., You just picked Mitchell to crush Arreola — MAJOR flubPosted September 12, 2013 1:01 am
I made MY prediction before the Fight was even announced and I can’t wait to celebrate it with a Victory Cigar on Saturday night!!Posted September 12, 2013 12:18 am
Furthermore, de la Hoya and canelo are closet butt buddies.Posted September 12, 2013 12:17 am
People saying mayweather is gonna run never seen mayweather fight. However, I watched canelo gas and straight run for 5 rounds.Posted September 12, 2013 12:15 am
Featherfisted Trout beat the stuffing out of el borica Cotto as I recall. Cotto, the guy that gave Mayweather a real run for his “money”. Whats that saying?Posted September 12, 2013 12:13 am
” Canelo doesn’t have the tenacity of Hatton, the speed of Judah, the inside game of Ramirez or the power of Corrales” –
Mayweather easily outboxes and stops Cinnabum who gasses out against the ropes like he did vs feather fisted trout.Posted September 12, 2013 12:01 am
LOL! Did you ever get the feeling that some people are just afraid to bet against Mayweather?Posted September 11, 2013 11:52 pm
Old School Rules
The “experts” are wrong on this one; caught up in Floyd’s track record. FMJ is fighting a full blown Middleweight here, and not some slow, lumbering slugger, but one with sound technical skills and great reflexes and power. The 20lbs will be too much.
Mayweather’s sharp punching was enough to get the respect of Cotto and force him to cover up while he moved in and out, but it won’t stop Canelo. He’s reflexes are very sharp and he will have no fear of FMJ’s power. He’ll counter Floyd hard.
Floyd’s go-to combo against high guard types is the jab to get the guard up and then the looping right around the side. Canelo will counter as soon as that jab comes and nail him. Floyd is going to have a very difficult time landing his shots without getting hit back.
The only way I see Floyd pulling is off is to run like crazy the first half of the fight and then try to take over when Canelo starts to tire out. But who knows, its Mayweather, maybe he has something up his sleeve.Posted September 11, 2013 11:51 pm
Canelo doesn’t have the tenacity of Hatton, the speed of Judah, the inside game of Ramirez or the power of Corrales. What he does have is enough of all those things in a much bigger package, a proven ability to live up to the moment and perform and a palpable desire for greatness. That’s what makes this fight interesting. Plus he happens to be from the country with perhaps the largest fan base in the sport. To win he’s going to have to do something yet to be done: land consistently on Mayweather’s humanity and I just don’t see that happening. I see Canelo forcing Mayweather to fight at a higher level than he has since he fought Chico, but ultimately losing to Floyd in a fight with more action than people anticipate.Posted September 11, 2013 11:44 pm
I am pretty sure that Floyd will run all night. I would like he take the same risks he took against cotto, but obviously he will not.Posted September 11, 2013 11:31 pm
Actually, I respectfully disagree. I think the PPV buys will probably match those to the ODLH vs FM fight. All in part thanks to the SAUL “Canelo” ALVAREZ FANS of course. We all know Floyd can sell too but he always needs a good dancing partner to fill his money appetite. Alone on a PPV, Mayweather would NEVER get a 41 million guarantee with say Bradley or Broner or anyone else. It takes a POPULAR fighter with a big fanbase like in this case CANELO or even……… Pacquioa.Posted September 11, 2013 11:29 pm
Judah? that looser… i can remember the “great” show he gave us against Kostya Tzsyu.Posted September 11, 2013 11:27 pm
Looks like barely anyone picked Canelo to win, this is why the PPV numbers wont top Floyd vs DelaHoya, not to mention the fact that only hardcore boxing fans know how good the undercard is. You have to ask yourself would this have been the same scenario if Floyd and Manny met two years ago, and I would say that it would be a resounding NO…Posted September 11, 2013 11:15 pm
Jim Rich- good point but then again Canelo KNOWS that he cannot outbox Mayweather. I think his plan is to try and soften him a bit and slow him down to were he CAN reach him and then dish out punishment. Like Canelo said in his interviews, he is aware that Mayweather is fast and is not looking to bully his way in like all the other fighters of the past. He is looking to fight a smart fight and a patient one.Posted September 11, 2013 11:07 pm
I am surprised they were able to sell this fight.Posted September 11, 2013 10:37 pm
44-1Posted September 11, 2013 10:30 pm
Judah fought floyd and he thinks canelo is going be swinging at air all night, I think he would know since he was in the ring with him. And judah has better speed than Canelo. Floyd looks for the other guys weakness and pin points it with a laser beam. Canelo can he find a weakness he can exploit with floyd?? If not Canelo is screwed.Posted September 11, 2013 10:27 pm
Canelo gasses and runs the whole second half of the fight.Posted September 11, 2013 10:16 pm
They predict Mayweather wins by decision but if he loses to Canelo it would be by KOPosted September 11, 2013 10:02 pm
Excessive holding from Mayweather all night long….Posted September 11, 2013 9:43 pm
Mayweathers ICON era ends.Posted September 11, 2013 9:39 pm