You have to relentlessly go after Floyd and let your hands go to drive him to the ropes like Cotto and Hatton did, and even Oscar, early on, even if you get countered. That is how you beat Floyd… He will shoulder roll and pivot, but that is why you have stick the the mugging style like Hatton.
And those who think Pacquiao cannot defeat Mayweather, simply because Marquez KO’d Pacquiao, but lost to Floyd, are talking apples to oranges styles… Floyd and Marquez are both mainly, “wait and see” counter punchers. The big contrast is that while Marquez is willing to take 3 shots to give two hard counters. Floyd hates getting hit at all… And Pacquiao is a fervent aggressor who goes after you with great footwork, agility, speed, and punches in bunches, even when getting countered. So it seems to me that if a defensive genius like Floyd got bloodied by a relentless Cotto, (until he lost steam later on), then what the Hell you think will happen against a stamina beast like Pacquiao?… Bottom line. Not even half of Pacquiao’s punches, even the great Floyd can avoid! And if Pac decides to power shot Floyd’s only defensive weakness, –his body, we might even see Floyd get tired a bit too… Not to mention I doubt Floyd has quite the power to really hurt or KO Pacquiao… And therein lies the key to Pacquiao’s victory.
Posted September 16, 2013 12:51 am
LET’S WAIT AND SEE WHAT PAC looks like vs BAM BAM RIOS……
I expect to see a far more cautious PAC in future back up with spots of aggression, although RIOS’ style is tailor made to make him look like a monster once again!Posted September 17, 2013 11:18 am
Canelo was weight drained… But he wasn’t as beaten up as Guerrero… Floyd landed some big shots on Guerrero and really messed his right hand up… Robert has a hard head.Posted September 16, 2013 8:50 pm
Guerrero should just call out Canelo and take him out while he’s been exposed.. Gurerro did much better vs Floyd the Canelo.. who really did nothing.. Old shot Cotto did better than anyone vs Mayweather…Posted September 16, 2013 7:17 pm
Guerrero isn’t going to do crap… He’s got his money now that he fought Mayweather… That was about the extent of his ambition in this sport… I’ll be surprised if we see him accomplish anything more along the lines of grabbing world titles. He cashed in.
He’ll have a few more fights because he’s famous, but nothing major.Posted September 16, 2013 6:27 pm
Good predictable win for Mayweather, what else did anyone expect. Alvarez does not have the foot speed to keep up with any elusive fighter. You can’t hit what you can’t catch & that’s about the total story.Posted September 16, 2013 5:21 pm
Keep It Real
I’m hoping Robert Guerrero gets back in the ring soon. I felt he put up a better performance against Floyd then Canelo did. Canelo might have won one round, but nothing more then that. I really like Guerrero and I felt he didnt get enough credit for making Floyd run around the ring. Floyd promised to go toe to toe with The Ghost and he never did.Posted September 16, 2013 1:29 pm
Old Coot, you have NO MORE insight on how to defeat Floyd Mayweather than my 8 year old Nephew does… The “Game Plan” and training methods have ALL been tried and discussed before and when its GAME TIME they all fall apart… Floyd has been in with plenty of guys who have the power to stop him but they cannot land in combination or with a hard enough shot to take him out of his zone.. The mans CHIN is VASTLY underrated when he is touched he usually gets VERY mean… Time is on Floyds enemies side, he is getting OLDER as we all are….This contract goes out till he is 38 years old, facing Canelo when he still has the degree of legs he has was SMART… He would also serve himself best by fighting in his natural division of 147 as opposed to getting in with guys who are 15 or more pounds heavier the guy has NOTHING else to prove… Fact is that there is NO way to train for Mayweather because NO ONE else fights like him with the bell rings, crude imitators and videotape do not account for the all around package of the P4P King when the bout starts… This has been proven OVER and OVER….Posted September 16, 2013 11:24 am
Floyd and Pacquiao is NOT gonna happen it does NOT matter who much sense it seems to make… Mares and Donaire once seemed natural as hell also but they are respectively Golden Boy and Top Rank fighters… NOW that the promotional entities have separated according to Network its a waste of time to dream that in addition to all ther other difficulties they are gonna make this fight…. I know I know in the world of “simple minds” all you gotta do is click your heels 3x like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz and it will happen but between Richard Schaefer, Oscar, Arum and Todd Debouef its not that simple… These guys are like Palastine and Israel at this point…I would love to see that fight EASY night for Mayweather which I have always contended, we KNOW Manny is not gonna stop him he could not stop Tim Bradley nor anyone over the past 3 years… Mayweathers defense is simply perhaps the best in boxing history even at 36 years of age….Like Canelo said in Spanish “Mas Rapido” very fast….Posted September 16, 2013 11:19 am
Floyd – Pacquaio makes all the sense in the world. Pac needs to get by Rios and do so in somewhat style. Canelo was a perfect opponent. Pacquaio is more difficult, southpaw, throws from all angles, fast on his feet. Styles make fights and Pacquaio will give Floyd problems.
I see Floyd winning a comfortable decision much like he did against Cotto and Canelo depending on which version of the old Pacquiao that shows up.
Who should Floyd fight in stead?Posted September 16, 2013 5:16 am
Floyd soundly beating Canelo reminds me of Joe Calzaghe who did the same thing to the undefeated, up-and-coming, 39 and 0, Mikkel Kessler.
Joe put his whole repertoire on show and beat Kessler convincingly, even hurting the young champ at one point. Mikkel was a great boxer/puncher with a somewhat predictable style but very sound boxing skills. Much like Canelo but with better footwork and not as strong.
Hopefully Canelo will learn from this defeat and come back stronger and a more skillfull fighter. He needs to improve on some specific aspects of his game to avoid losing the same way again. The blue print is out and Canelo needs to adjust.Posted September 16, 2013 5:08 am
Manny was never a threat. He got a gift decision vs Marquez on their 3rd fight and was put to sleep on their 4th now his fighting lil BUM BUM Rios whose nothing but another inhouse tailormade slugger coming off a loss vs Alvarado and a gift decision vs Abril. Pac is not on the level of Mayweather.Posted September 16, 2013 2:50 am
“you have to be able to pursue Floyd like Cotto, or Hatton did”-SURE. IF you want to take a LOSS like Cotto and Hatton DID. ..What you have to DO to beat Floyd is be more effective on Offense and more elusive on Defense. And I wish everyone GOOD LUCK on that…..Right now Rigo is the only one that has the SKILL level to stay in Floyd’s ball park. Some SAID Trout would be a tough matchup for Floyd but I think they see things now the way I saw them all along. Trout is #0 P4P with FEATHER fists. No match for Mayweather.Posted September 16, 2013 2:36 am
Some of you may recall that I said back in June, that due to Canelo’s power and youth, that he had a shot at KOing Floyd, if he could land the right shots… But I also said Floyd chose him because he is a flat-footed fighter, who has trouble coming forward very fast… Now I was hoping they would train him for improved footwork and to get up on his toes more, because you have to be able to pursue Floyd like Cotto, or Hatton did… But I see they spaced that important lil tidbit.Posted September 16, 2013 1:01 am
You have to relentlessly go after Floyd and let your hands go to drive him to the ropes like Cotto and Hatton did, and even Oscar, early on, even if you get countered. That is how you beat Floyd… He will shoulder roll and pivot, but that is why you have stick the the mugging style like Hatton.
And those who think Pacquiao cannot defeat Mayweather, simply because Marquez KO’d Pacquiao, but lost to Floyd, are talking apples to oranges styles… Floyd and Marquez are both mainly, “wait and see” counter punchers. The big contrast is that while Marquez is willing to take 3 shots to give two hard counters. Floyd hates getting hit at all… And Pacquiao is a fervent aggressor who goes after you with great footwork, agility, speed, and punches in bunches, even when getting countered. So it seems to me that if a defensive genius like Floyd got bloodied by a relentless Cotto, (until he lost steam later on), then what the Hell you think will happen against a stamina beast like Pacquiao?… Bottom line. Not even half of Pacquiao’s punches, even the great Floyd can avoid! And if Pac decides to power shot Floyd’s only defensive weakness, –his body, we might even see Floyd get tired a bit too… Not to mention I doubt Floyd has quite the power to really hurt or KO Pacquiao… And therein lies the key to Pacquiao’s victory.Posted September 16, 2013 12:51 am
Come on Manny struggled with Bradley and not to mentioned was Koed by Marquez he shouldnt even be mentioned in the same breath as Floyd. Manny who they picked Rios because he comes straight forward so he is perfect, manny was offered 40 mil and turned it down. besides the public interest is not what it use to be for the bout, No Amir Kahn has a huge following in England Floyd could beat him next easly and make another 100 mil. Manny was never a treatPosted September 16, 2013 12:50 am
Floyd doesn’t know that.., I don’t see Pacquiao getting away from either Floyd’s jab, straight rights, or right hooks.. I think it’s a clinic but I don’t think Floyd scores a KO.
I think it’s a good action fight for 12 rounds, although one-sided in favor of Floyd.. Pacquiao has maybe lost a step because he has one foot in politics and fingers in many businesses.. Focusing on Boxing has become tougher and tougher because of all his outside interests.
But he wants to fight Floyd before he’s done — because who wants to leave a fight like that out there??? … I’m sure both men want to get it done.Posted September 16, 2013 12:43 am
Floyd will never fight Pacquiao, even if he agreed to every demand… Because Floyd knows that Hatton, Oscar, and Cotto in particular had the right idea about how to beat him… But he also knows Pacquiao is the only one of them who can do it even better, without letting up from getting winded.Posted September 16, 2013 12:35 am
Pacquiao has a tricky style… He dominated Miguel Cotto and stopped his jab.. and stopped him too.. He had a bad fight with JMM and lost.
Everybody loses.. Doesn’t mean they don’t match up well with fighter “A”Posted September 16, 2013 12:33 am
Pacquiao fighting Floyd is a waste of time. How is Pacquiao going to nullify that tap & run? Only a mugger or another tap & run artist would pose a challenge to Floyd’s coveted zero.Posted September 16, 2013 12:13 am
This pundit says.., “Should Pacquiao overcome Rios, avenge his loss against the winner of Marquez-Bradley, and defeat Danny Garcia”
Why in Hell would Pacquiao have to do all that??? He’s not campaigning for president — he just wants to fight Floyd.
Rios is a great fighter… Beat Rios and he’s all set to fight Floyd in China where he beat Rios … The fight could possibly break all records because it’s a pent up cork in a bottle that’s been building for many years.Posted September 15, 2013 11:55 pm
GGG would b stupid if he thinks he could cut down 2 154 pnds. He should rule his own weight 1st. GGG wouldnt b on Floyds radar…Big names big pays, GGG needs some bigger names on his kill list. Garcia def has earned a shot.Posted September 15, 2013 10:51 pm
I’m like Taj Eubanks, and like both Pac and May. It is very optimistic to think that they will ever fight, though optimism is better than its nemesis. If they do indeed fight, it will be a one-sided May victory. He is aging better, hasn’t slowed too much, if anything is getting smarter in the ring, and just seems in complete command of his game. Pac, is older in boxing terms, and has never had the ring IQ of May, and has compensated that lack with devastating speed, power and movement that we (or I at least) had never seen before. So, the time is right for may to take this fight. And I’d love to see Pac prove me wrong and match it with May. Who knows? Nothing motivates more than being written off.Posted September 15, 2013 10:41 pm
pacs greatness was solidified way back in his morales and barrera trilogies according to me. whenever sredmond states what somebody elses views are u can pretty much stop there. the rest is liesPosted September 15, 2013 10:37 pm
I have a question I’m hoping some of you can answer? Is there anyone else that can draw that type of attention for a big payday other than Pacquiao? Canelo and Pacquiao have countries that back them. Who else is out there?Posted September 15, 2013 9:35 pm
Bears, look around NO ONE respects that Card people are calling for CJ Ross being kicked out of boxing.. She blew the call on Pacquiao Vs Bradley… You think that was a draw??? HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! AGAIN you are residing on a land of idiots…Posted September 15, 2013 9:11 pm
GGG is a 160 pounder who needs to build a resume in his own division.. Beating Macklin was nice but his quality is THIN…I doubt Mayweather fights above 147 again he cannot even make 154… Guys a WW these other maggots will have to earn a living in their own weight classes…Posted September 15, 2013 9:09 pm
how did u even stume on this site? via your phone? probably. maybe a judge having it a draw equals may vs guerrero dominance to u. maybe what u saw last night u think it was dominance. then again i couldnt put that past a pea brainPosted September 15, 2013 9:08 pm
Bears, you LOVE PAcquiao who has had 3 catchweight fights and tried for a 4th against Cotto AGAIN… Cotto, Marquez and Margarito..Sooooo since you are soo against Catchweights you MUST hate Manny who has far more history with this???Posted September 15, 2013 9:07 pm
Bears, Floyd has made more $$$$$$$last evening than Canelo will likely in his career…Over and Over he banks that cash Canelos contributions are appreciated But as usual he LOST like all Mayweather opponents do..Posted September 15, 2013 9:04 pm
Blah Blah Blah!!! Now Bears did not know about the catchweight because his prediction was crushed… Guess you don’t respect 3 of Pacquiaos wins..You daughter has a lying BUM FOR A Father that kids destined for the stripper pole in the future SMH..Posted September 15, 2013 9:02 pm
i dont know if mayweather could put another ppv together worth watching. mayweather hs had one ppv worth it so far. canelo. lol and it was canelo who made it worth it. lolPosted September 15, 2013 9:01 pm
Bears, “Mayweather didn’t dominate Canelo in the least”? Dude, you are clearly an imbecile and delusional. You shouldn’t even be watching boxing because you simply aren’t intelligent enough to process the action.Posted September 15, 2013 8:59 pm
Bradley had problems with Provdnikov, a C+ fighter. Nuff said.Posted September 15, 2013 8:55 pm
more like forces his own advantages like the catchweight in this instance. fighting for a 154 pound title at 152. lol. ridiculusnessPosted September 15, 2013 8:53 pm
GGG CANNOT offer anything because he’s a NOBODY when compared to Floyd Mayweather..! He would blow Floyd in a bathroom if told to for a shot because he cannot make the money anywhere else…This is a proverbial NO WIN GGG loses its gonna be blamed on dropping 7 pounds just like Canelos is blamed by Bears and Co on dropping 1.5… Besides he brings NO $$$$$$$ to the table..Posted September 15, 2013 8:52 pm
canelo didnt come off 1.5 pounds canelo has to drain ten plus pounds just to make 154. on acerage more like 15 plus. from the weight he entered to fight austin to what he weighed in friday night is 171 down to 152. twenty pounds. thats a lot of weight. it doesnt matter the questions surround the bout regardless. may shouldnt have done it for countless reasons. one judge had it a draw. floyd didnt dominate canelo in the least. a weight drained canelo at that. lets be honestPosted September 15, 2013 8:51 pm
Floyd Mayweather is the premier boxer in the sport he forces the sad and weak minded to manufacture alls net of excuses for his success in and out of the ring.. We have posters like Bears who simply changes his call, or “Anonymous” who dares not even take credit for his opinions… Fact is that when discussing Floyd, Ward and Hops you are talking about SPECIAL fighters… Mayweather and Andre are #1 and #2 respectively in the sport and Hopkins is simply a record setting OLD fighter who guys still cannot beat up… God forbid he takes this latest plodding slugger Kovalev to school… Another YOUNG scalp to add to Pavliks, Pascals and Clouds… These boxers have more ring craft between them than 99% of fighters can dream of…Posted September 15, 2013 8:49 pm
Well you’re safe on this one, Mayweather won’t be taking up Golovkins offer, a bridge too far. like i said easy night for GGG.Posted September 15, 2013 8:45 pm
Jimmy, what PUerto Rican fighters are you discussing? Cotto who just lost to Mayweather And Trout? By the way Miguel is one of my favorites.. You ain’t “slapping” anything man besides you are probably BANNED from the 7 and 4 trains from the Godforsaken Bronx… Stay in Ya lane Son…!Posted September 15, 2013 8:41 pm
How is GGG gonna go down to 154 when Bears and the rest of these BUMS are trying to sell Canelo coming off 1.5 pounds as killing his chances.. If GGG drops 7 pounds what are we gonna hear then?? Golovkin would do worse than Canelo he’s not beaten any fresh fighters on the World Class level… He and Fliyd are 2 divisions apart..Posted September 15, 2013 8:37 pm
It seems everyone thinks Mayweather would make clowns out of anyone at 140\47 so if Golovkin goes down to 154 can we expect Floyd to take up the challenge? Somehow
Floyd doesnt need Manny, pacman is just about done. Garcia at welterseight, Sergio said he’d dfop down 2 jr middle. I dont think khan should get a shot, Floyd woukd destroy him. Love 2 May vs Bradley, I think Arum would have other ideas. 4get about manny v Floyd it aint going 2 happenPosted September 15, 2013 8:16 pm
“What does Floyd and myself have in COMMON? Floyd is the GREATESTfighter ever born and I am the GREATEST fight profit EVER born!!!
Well, here’s the deal “Boxtradamus.” The real Boxtradamus–the one you stole the nick from–would never make the spelling errors you do. The real Boxtradamus would never spell call himself “profit.” That little mistake right there belied who you really are and that’s not the real, original Boxtradamus.
BTW, it’s “prophet.” Not “profit” as you wrote. And BTW, don’t try to wriggle out of it saying it was a typo. You ain’t Boxtradamus.Posted September 15, 2013 8:08 pm
Guys, I neglected to put in the article the email address of the Nevada Athletic Commission for
Let me run that by you again in case you missed it the first time.
“As soon as we come off vacation, we’re going to cook that little yellow chump … Once I kick the midget ass, I don’t want you all to jump on my d—. So you all better get on the bandwagon now … Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that mother f—– make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice … we’re going to cook him with some cats and dogs.”
Absolutely disgusting!Posted September 15, 2013 7:52 pm
When Hopkins refers to ”the European” here he’s obviously using that for a code word for white.
He even says Lucian Bute refers to himself as the ”Great White Hope” which is a bare faced lie.
HOPKINS: I’m glad you mentioned Andre Ward, because first as I watched the fight at ringside with Jay Prince, who I highly respect and is a good friend of mine. I said to him and a couple of people right beside me, the styles! Froch’s style, the European, there is only a couple of things that he can actually do and always do, and he’s not going to do anything different. That’s the European. I said as far as Ward, he’s all around—all around Philadelphia gym, Claifornia gym, Vegas gym, Houston, Louisiana. You see any of those gyms where you see that all around athlete, it’s things that a European can never do because the genetics is not there. When one tries to copy and come close, they build him up like he’s special, and he is because it’s not normal. But Andre Ward whopped that ass and made it look so easy, that they were frustrated that it looked so easy, and they is on Froch’s side, his people. Was I surprised? No. Can anything happen in boxing? Yes. But I wasn’t surprised.
I remember Andre Ward rocking high at a young age in the Olympics with Nazim Richardson and all of them. So I’m not surprised of his ability. As a matter of fact he reminds me of somebody. (laughs) I ain’t going to say the name, but he reminds me of somebody. I said oh you’ve been studying, I told him in the dressing room when he was hugging with his kids and stuff. I said man I see you have been studying. He said yep, and we just looked at each other and that was it. I said enjoy yourself man and I left out of there. Take care of your eye, take care of your hand, and take care of your face. That’s why I last so long, because instead of going on the party floor after the fights, instead of going hoo-ha, hoo-ha, hoo-ha, take care of your body. Soak your hand. Soak your eyes. He’ll tell you what I said to him. Let everybody else celebrate. Sit back and look around and worry about your face, because your eye will stay like that if you don’t put the ice on there and you’ll look like Iran Barkley. No disrespect to Iran Barkley! That’s my man, but it is what it is. You got to use examples to make a clear point.
So when you look at Andre Ward and you look at that 68 division, if Bute don’t fight Bernard Hopkins after Andre dusts off Kessler, he should go ahead and fight Andre Ward. How can a guy that claims he is “the great white hope”, even though he’s in Canada, and you fight a Froch who got his ass whopped royally, viciously! I mean is this what boxing has come down to ya’ll? Is that what boxing has come to where the losers get the best fights at 168 pounds? (laughs) Hey man! I can’t knock the hustle, though. But you’re all going to buy that?! Every media in boxing, including ya’ll, East Side Boxing should be slaying that fight! Are you kidding me?!Posted September 15, 2013 7:40 pm
ATTENTION ALL POSTERS: may vs pac will never happen. pac is finished as a fighter. he will never recover from his beating.Posted September 15, 2013 7:35 pm
“As soon as we come off vacation, we’re going to cook that little yellow chump … Once I kick the midget ass, I don’t want you all to jump on my d—. So you all better get on the bandwagon now … Once I stomp the midget, I’ll make that mother f—– make me a sushi roll and cook me some rice … we’re going to cook him with some cats and dogs.”Posted September 15, 2013 7:24 pm
what happened to canelo beingthe matrix? a catchweight happened. to what degree it effected canelos approach only canelo knows. as i said the catchweight cN only detract from floyd. u didnt see canelo making floyd miss? what fight were you watching? matrix was there boiled down two additional pounds and fighting like it was a factor. boxing rather than relentlessly closing the gap and trapping may on the ropes and in the corners an let his hands go with his combosPosted September 15, 2013 7:22 pm
The Author hit it on the head.
From watching Mayweather fights, it appears it is not the fighter, but those trainers who bought the media hype that Mayweather got so a great defense that he can not be beat, therefore they don’t work on a game plan. Mayweather never change style he does the same thing over and over, What he does do is let the other fighter and team buy into their own insercurity.
Bears the David Duke nut swallowetPosted September 15, 2013 7:16 pm
People keep bringing up Pacroid as an opponent for Floyd. If thise of you who like to listen to negative crap about the man ever heard one word, then Oscar made it very clear on Mayweather’s part. IT’S NOT HIS FAULT THE FIGHT DIDNT HAPPEN. Those are Oscar’s words and regardless of where he is right now , he knows from a negotiation standpoint what’s really been happening. So for those who just can’t let go, my advice is use commonsense. Anyone offer you $40mil & that’s more then yiu ever made, but you say no. Well something smells bs in yiur system. If all yiu have to do is agree to blood/urine test and you balk at the idea then any season detective will say you are hiding something. In theory and fact Floyd IMO did all a man needs to do to make this fight. Problem was Pacroid is a steroid using cheater who would get schooled like all the others Floyd has faced. Now that he is no longer relevant other then to the kiss ass HBO commentators people still try to attach him to Floyd’s greatness. Pacroid lose his last two fights, no one can say with a straight face that if that was Floyd who lose those $41mil paydays wiuld be a thing of the past. Just think, what Floyd offered this fool he made in one fight (guaranteed)….. When has Pacroid had a financial guarantee of this nature? ???.? Never. …..Posted September 15, 2013 7:08 pm
Canelos got PLENTY of talent, what he did would have yielded results against 90% of the relevant fighters at 154 and certainly smaller men at 147… But he went straight to the top of the food chain and took on the Apex Predator the most dangerous beast in the jungle… Floyd Mayweather JR….. Every Mayweather opponent is made to look like less than he is after facing FMJ… Such is the depth and quality of his dominance and boxing IQPosted September 15, 2013 6:53 pm
Bears, You could NOT be more predictable even if I handed you a script.. I said months ago when Canelo loses you are gonna be making excuses and backtracking and here we are!! Lmao day after you are your typical flip flopping self, what happened to “Canelo being the matrix” you made these proclamations knowing all relevant details… Canelo was SOOOO far from “the matrix” it’s unreal… You have no real stance as a man you said “Canelo is Mayweathers toughest opponent” NOW you are backing down like a victim who has a gun to his head…Blaming refs and hating fighters for hurting your guy YOU just will not accept results there is always a “Secret door” in your diseased brain where a pile of Dung and excuses reside…Posted September 15, 2013 6:49 pm
Cheers Sred..Posted September 15, 2013 6:39 pm
Canelo did what he could. I didn’t think he had much of a chance, and he didn’t. He’s got talent, and will be a great one IMO only if he doesn’t lose his confidence and gets right back into the ring. He’s young and will develop in the fights to come. Floyd is a very good fighter with experience. He gave Canelo a very sound eating in all areas.Posted September 15, 2013 6:38 pm
Goosey! A welcome face amongst a sea of nuts or Bears… Good to see you around!Posted September 15, 2013 6:35 pm
Bears, Tark and the rest are now throwing Canelo over because he could no do more with a talent the likes of which boxing has rarely seen… Bears was RAVING about how Canelo was gonna destroy Mayweather etc now suddenly he’s not so hot? Get with the program Bears Mayweather beat a guy a full 2 weight classes above him on fight night with ease… There is NOT A single fighter you worship who’s skills are in line with Floyds…Posted September 15, 2013 6:33 pm
Bears.. Cheers! Cannot post under the name goosey after I fell out with the writer collins here on esb.. Fun to see that you and Sredmond are still at war with each other lol.Posted September 15, 2013 6:21 pm
Props to Alvarez for taking such a risky fight at the tender age of 23, Mayweather wouldn’t have ever taken risk of that magnitude at that age. In fact he never would have even though all the chips are always in his favour. Alvarez dared to be great and came up short, whereas Mayweather always played it safe in and out the ring.Posted September 15, 2013 5:54 pm
What’s this? Canelo was a nobody? Canelo was cherrypicked? Floyd picked a ready made win? It never ends. Find a fighter that people believe can beat Floyd. Build him up and claim Floyd is a fraud if he doesn’t fight him. Floyd fights him-dominates him. Then said built up fighter is a nobody that Floyd beat and still didn’t prove anything. Aren’t you haters tired of this broken record?Posted September 15, 2013 5:34 pm
THIS IS BORING!Posted September 15, 2013 5:22 pm
that catch may have taken a lot out of canelo who may not have been able to fight the fight he had to to win. it couldve spelled his own demose by gassing and the risk to great and then canelo get fried like dawson.Posted September 15, 2013 5:20 pm
Bears.. Hello, just having a laugh dude.. Cheers….Posted September 15, 2013 5:19 pm
I expected Floyd to win, but I also expected a LOT more from Canelo. Floyd just took the fight out of he kid too easy, outmatched him in the experience department and Canelo never showed the inclination to just go for broke and let the chips fall where they may.
May can clean out the 140 & 147 divs, if he wants, but the money doesn’t make sense. Nobody IMO deserves a shot at May, no one! Next PPV will be the same result as last night. May can’t and won’t be touched!Posted September 15, 2013 5:10 pm
“Reality is that there is NO good approximation of Floyd Mayweather in the ring so getting Shane Mosley or some other fighter to do a crude imitation is sparring is gonna yield no results… Canelo could have sparred Floyd with 16 OZ gloves for 6 weeks and when the headgear and 10OZ gloves were on he would still be like what happened??? Alvarez tried, he was fit and ready but he was in with a talent level he’s not gonna see again…” This.Posted September 15, 2013 5:10 pm
Amazing that Canelo was able to do as well as he did given the condition he was in.Posted September 15, 2013 5:09 pm
Super middleweight champion Andre Ward believes that Canelo’s struggles to cut weight were evident after studying his demeanor.
“That concerned me, that even if he blows up tonight, the back half of the twelve round fight is where I think Mayweather is going to step on the gas and it could get ugly,” Ward added.
Ward then issued a bold statement, hinting that an eventual TKO may be in store for Mayweather.
“It’s odd, because when you see that, you know this guy’s been having some serious weight issues,” said Ward. “It’s not just ‘I’m hungry, I’m a little bit dehydrated.’ There’s some serious weight issues and Floyd Mayweather is not the guy to have weight issues with when you fade down the stretch because he gets stronger. It’s kind of eyebrow-raising when I say he could potentially stop Canelo but I think a late-round stoppage is not out of the question.”Posted September 15, 2013 5:07 pm
But you said he was going to bust Mayweather up, because Canelo was “a beasting” Mayweather fought “Gaaarbage!” and that we all “”heard it here first”.. Now Mayweather has boxed his ears off and you are “blah, blah, blah.” Lol.. Same old Bears Nice one Sherlock! Honk Honk! Were all going on a summer holiday!Posted September 15, 2013 5:02 pm
i won 60 bux at the fight party i wentto last night. if thats what u call tough i guess thats a good thing. i was a little dissapointes with canelo as it seemed he didnt leave it all in the ring but as i pointed out it may have been because of gassing concerns exacerbated by the catchweight. so i will continue to follow canelo. he hung with floyd all day and made floyd miss like no other. kids 23. i still think he’s awesome and prolly the next cash cowPosted September 15, 2013 4:56 pm
They’re not “hype jobs”; Floyd is just so good he makes everyone he faces look like one.Posted September 15, 2013 4:52 pm
Lol at Bears after the fact… Lolz.Posted September 15, 2013 4:51 pm
Canelo is too green at this point of his career. The result is no surprise. May will retire with the 0. The question is, who will be the next hype job?Posted September 15, 2013 4:42 pm
Canelo made no excuses I give him credit he just said “MAS Rapido” very fast… He was in awesome shape he just does not have the speed nor craft to beat a Floyd Mayweather…!Posted September 15, 2013 4:34 pm
Is that the BEST you got Bears? It’s tough man BOTH guys you were tugging your fuzzy little pecker over lost… That’s hard man!!! Canelo and Matthysee BOTH tacking “L’s” on the records… It’s barely fun gloating at your demise because you’re a card carrying idiot but even dummies deserve to be mocked.. For the record Garcia landed the BEST punch of the night because he put Matthysee down and got 2 points for himself… See its abiut winning when will you get that you DOG?? You got all excited about Wards mouthpiece meanwhile the World saw him dominate Froch and win..LMAO!! “Canelo the Matrix a Bears Quote” HAHHAHAHAHAHA!Posted September 15, 2013 4:30 pm
Next I’d like to see Floyd either: Tim Bradley — an excellent boxer with tremendous heart. Pacquiao — if he can get past Rios convincingly. Or Danny Garcia — a guy much like Bradley but with much more firepower. All three would be intriguing fights.Posted September 15, 2013 4:11 pm
Bears, you BLAME EVERY fight result you don’t like on refs or fouls.. It’s a combat sport Garcia got a deduction and STILL WON… Both are aggressive fighters its no surprise they banged heads etc… Bottomline is that Garcia WON he’s still the 140 pound Champ, Lucas gave him his respect and vice versa…If your opponent knocks your eyeball out that’s a GREAT thing! Injuring your opponent is a GREAT thing when are you gonna learn this? You love KOs unless one of the fighters you are sacking is the victim…Garcia was landing the combos he was the more skilled pugilist and that’s coming from someone who slated Garcia to be knocked out…Posted September 15, 2013 4:09 pm
KRS- part time fighter Oscar until now has been Floyd’s toughest fight in which IMO Oscar did enough to earn the victory and not everything Floyd threw landed either. Cotto also had success and hit him pretty good.Posted September 15, 2013 4:08 pm
I used to be a big Floyd fan back in the day. I loved watching his fights when he was down at super feather and lightweight, I still enjoy watching him today. That said, the whole ducking of Pacquiao saga was shameful. Speaking as a proud back man, it was embarrassing watching a fellow brotha bring shame on our community like that. We have a rich tradition in the sport and his actions made a complete mockery of that IMO.Posted September 15, 2013 4:00 pm
it became easier by about 50% to hit mathyse when he had one eye and mathyse still lit garcia up. it was a close fight. from my stand point it deserves a rematch. i think mathyse can beat garcia and we now learned mathyse is good at taking repeated low blows and head butts? garcia wouldve hated it if jay nady was the ref in there he wouldnt have gotten away with the fouls. canelo show he was fast as hell and actually made floyd miss alot. i dont know anyone who made floyd miss like that. canelo just didnt lay it all out offensively. i didnt expect that from canelo. and maybe the weight and potential for gasing factored in. advantage mayweather and mayweather wins. “give me fighters at their best weight” yeah right. floyd shouldve said ” give me the advantage or no fight” essentially he did say that. 50 cent was right, floyds scaredPosted September 15, 2013 3:52 pm
Tim Bradley?!!!! Surely you jestPosted September 15, 2013 3:50 pm
To beat Mayweather is not rocket science……Just get Tim Bradley in the ring with him!!!Posted September 15, 2013 3:49 pm
Castillo. Y’all stay talking about Castillo. 3 judges say he didn’t win. I saw the fight and it was close, but he didn’t win in my eyes. Get over it. And oscar’s ass thought he won? Please! Throwing a million punches and missing and/or hitting gloves and elbows doesn’t count as a win. Sorry!Posted September 15, 2013 3:46 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
Great article, Mr. Eubanks. Congratulations.Posted September 15, 2013 3:43 pm
Boxstradamus, you are silly. Keep rubbing it in on them. Lol! Lmao!Posted September 15, 2013 3:38 pm
I wil admit I didnt pick garcia or floyd last night. I really did think canelo was more athletic than thatPosted September 15, 2013 3:37 pm
Pacquaio and Mayweather is NEVER gonna happen because Top Rank and Goldenboy are NEVER gonna work together… They operate on different networks lets get real I would watch that legacy fight why not? It would be one sided as hell Mannys just too vulnerable to an elite counter-puncher and who’s better than Floyd? PAC Mans an awesome fighter at his best an ATG but he badly needs a win to even get this discussion going again…Floyds issue is that the dopey public and dense hardcore fans thought Canelo was gonna unseat him…And after he was easily dispatched what for is gonna spark the public in anything close to that manner?? Mayweather needs to fight the biggest bouts possible at 147, finish his contract and retire… There is nothing left to prove at this point..Posted September 15, 2013 3:36 pm
I’ve been thinking about what should be next for both fighters. For Alvarez I think he has a couple of options, one is to move up in weight to middleweight and take on D Barker for the IBF belt, then work his way through those ranks, or stay at 154 and fight Molina for his IBF belt. I think he is just to big for 154 personally and loosing that much weight takes a toll on the body.
Floyd has a lot more options since he can move between three weight classes with ease. One is avenge his TMT fighter and take on Molina to hold all 154 belts that matter, two take on Garcia for his titles, three Try and get winner of Bradely/Marquez (promoters get in the way), four take on Alexander/Khan fight. I think Floyd is working his way to his final fight with A Broner, who thinks he is the next coming of Floyd.Posted September 15, 2013 3:27 pm
THESE YANKS COULD SELL PORK CHOPS TO MUSLIMS.Posted September 15, 2013 3:26 pm
Bears, your analysis of the Garcia vs Matthysee fight is about as ridiculous as your prefight analysis about how fast Canelo was gonna be relative to Floyd… I thought Matthysee would catch Garcia and drop him but clearly I was wrong…Garcia took his best, busted him up and landed the clean combos.. Walter got his eye swollen by a punch it happens he LOST… Your bleating about BS is not gonna change that Garcia proved to be the better fighter and showed he’s the BOSS at 140… Lucas will beat most guys, Garcias not one of them as of today…GrowupPosted September 15, 2013 3:24 pm
This is what “boxing” has evolved into. A champion used to be regarded as a major badass. What do we have now? A potshotting prankster? It’s that kid in school that taps you on the head and you can never catch him to whip his arse! You go to a boxing match to see a major beatdown, not a skittish, squirmy, schizophrenic, potshotting, backpeddling track star. At least we had Garcia-Matthysse. A real fight!Posted September 15, 2013 3:22 pm
Te tumbo, I get what you are saying. And I personally felt that Canelo was ill-equipped to deal with Floyd. That said, even he had the proverbial puncher’s chance, but if it is clear that a boxing strategy is yielding no results after 3-4 rounds, then you are obligated to switch gears and swing for the fences, that’s assuming you want to win and not simply just go the distance. Does that make sense?Posted September 15, 2013 3:19 pm
People always discuss these fighters “gameplan” or “making adjustments” or “Plan B” I think Mike Tyson said it best “everyone has a plan till they get hit” the only guys that I count on to adjust in the ring or find a working solution when their typical approach is not working are Marquez, Mayweather and Martinez used to step it up… I saw JMM switch lanes on Diaz, Katsidis and Pacquaio… Floyd, well need we say more? Martinez turned it up on Pavlik, Barker and Macklin…Reality is that there is NO good approximation of Floyd Mayweather in the ring so getting Shane Mosley or some other fighter to do a crude imitation is sparring is gonna yield no results… Canelo could have sparred Floyd with 16 OZ gloves for 6 weeks and when the headgear and 10OZ gloves were on he would still be like what happened??? Alvarez tried, he was fit and ready but he was in with a talent level he’s not gonna see again…Posted September 15, 2013 3:18 pm
KRS-ONE, the constant reliance on the development of a new “gameplan” that would defeat Mayweather is a fundamental fallacy. superior execution NOT planning is what will defeat Mayweather. actually scoring and avoiding more punches v. Mayweather. at some point, the focus of discussion must shift to what kind of fighter will it take to outclass and/or outpunch Mayweather? a Leonard? a Hearns? is it Broner? Garcia?!? otherwise, Gil Clancy and Angelo Dundee themselves couldn’t have shifted the tide for Canelo v. Mayweather. Canelo simply isn’t the “one”.Posted September 15, 2013 3:14 pm
I TOLD YOU ALVAREZ SHOULD TAKE UP PLAYING POOL.Posted September 15, 2013 3:14 pm
YOU NEED TWO GREATS TO MAKE A GREAT FIGHT NOT ONE.Posted September 15, 2013 3:11 pm
Im just a lonley transexualPosted September 15, 2013 3:07 pm
mathyse did awesome and hurt garcia and fought half the fight with one eye. mathyse took countless low blows and head buts as well. garcia is the low blow master. i think mathyse garcia deserves an immediate rematch. what did mathysee do???!!! did u watch the fight? did you see garcias jaw get jacked up and his mouthpiece fly into the ringside seating slow motion like some simpsons slow motion scene? bradley vs mayweather would be weak as hell. mathyse clearly landed the best punch of the fight. it was a really close fight which was most likely tipped to garcia due to the fouls and rare loss of the eye. who wouldnt want to see them go at it again. if u think garcia won a dominant one sided fight your a d ildoPosted September 15, 2013 3:06 pm
Floyd looked superb against a very slow opponent.Posted September 15, 2013 3:02 pm
Why don’t we all ignore Boxtradamus and starve it so that it withers up and blows away like so much loose garbage,Posted September 15, 2013 3:00 pm
Camelo was a lazy boxer against Floyd. He should have been more agressive like Cotto. Camelo is way TOO SLOW.Posted September 15, 2013 2:59 pm
What does Floyd and myself have in COMMON? Floyd is the GREATESTfighter ever born and I am the GREATEST fight profit EVER born!!! Do you know what else is great? We also both have the GREATEST amount of haters in our respective professions. Stop living in the PAST and recognize true GREATNESS that is before you!!!Posted September 15, 2013 2:58 pm
I predicted all fights CORRECTLY. Give up the HATING I’ve been telling everyone all along I’m just simply the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!!!. Last night just CEMENTS my legacy and PROVES to the world what I’ve been saying for YEARS!!!Posted September 15, 2013 2:51 pm
They build them up and May smacks them down! BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAH! I know it must be very difficult for you Mayweather haters to grasp the reality of what happened less than 24 hours ago. How can this be, you ask yourself. Canelo had all the tools to get the job done. He had size, strength and youth on his side and still got whooped in a familiar fashion as the 44 that came before. Is Maywaether as good as people say? Is Canleo not as good as we thought? Or is it a little of both? All this jibber jabber means naught, the result cannot be changed and all the hate and revisionist history won’t help. As you haters are licking your wounds I know you are seeking another opponent for May. Who can it be? Is it 3G? A guy whose resume is comprised of has beens and nobodies but he looks damn good destroying them. The aging Martinez? Young Danny Garcia? Who? All these guys have built in excuses for when May whoops them. If 3G moves down to 154, you already know FM detractors are going to argue that the weight was issue. Martinez, well we know he would be an old man and Garcia would just be a blow Jr welter. Of course if FM doesn’t fight these guys he would be big ducker. Keep up the good work haters . I enjoy a good laugh every once in a while. Thanks!!!!!Posted September 15, 2013 2:45 pm
B Red , Answer = YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted September 15, 2013 2:40 pm
Fu–ck ESB with this posting too quickly bull crap. I’m ouuta herePosted September 15, 2013 2:39 pm
Mayweather the best ever. And please people stop talking about pacquio, he’s a shot fighter. I predict he loses his next bout. He was never a threat to money. Even Marquez said he’d rather fight pac 10 times than fight money a second time. Real boxing fans will know a supreme boxer will almost always beat a one punch wonder. And nobody in the history of boxing does it better than money. If other boxers had half a brain they would stop trying to be bangers and learn the sweet science of boxing. Pac got called out for PEDs and he was never the same again. All these “b” fighters look good against other “b” class fighters then they get in there with money a look like total amateurs.Posted September 15, 2013 2:38 pm
BEARS, no. I don’t think so. Future opponents–an easy one in the UK, maybe winner of Rio-Pac, Bradley if he beats JMM. WTF did Matthysse do to earn an opportunity.Posted September 15, 2013 2:37 pm
I figured Canelo would time Mayweather, and catch him with something big during the exchanges. Wrong!!! Mayweather made Canelo look ordinary in there, heck even below average. That’s the difference between Mayweather and every other fighter out there. He makes talented fighters, even HOF fighers, look sub par.Posted September 15, 2013 2:32 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
I know this Q was for bears…But no I don’t know if Floyd is the best of this generation…Personally I think if Rigo and Floyd was in the same weight-class…That Rigo would find a way to beat him…I think Floyd is the best at his age…But I would have preferred to have see him against some of the top-dogs in the divs ca 10 years ago…The WW and LMW div were stacked with talent at that time…And it sucked that we had to see him vs an over the hill Oscar and Sugar + the non-existent fight with Pac-man…But sure Floyd is great.Posted September 15, 2013 2:29 pm
if marquez can do what he did to pac u have to think may can do it. i think the most intriguing matchups are ggg and garcia/mathyse. maybe pac. i think ggg is the most interesting though.Posted September 15, 2013 2:28 pm
Masnny Pacquiaos is the only way to misspell and get posted. I think F*M interests control this thread.Posted September 15, 2013 2:28 pm
Masnny is the only guy who can put some leather on F.M, and make a fight of it. If this does not happen in 2014 then F & M looses credit. He gained nothing, and I said NOTHING in this last fight. I am getting out the accordion and the tin cup.Posted September 15, 2013 2:26 pm
This last fight was a total con job and hype job by media inerests who control Boxing media. F-M could not even stop the Messican, he cruised to a UD without a challenge. I saved my PPV 65 dollars and glad I did.Posted September 15, 2013 2:24 pm
The only opponent now for May is Manny Pacquiao.Posted September 15, 2013 2:22 pm
Bears, is Floyd the greatest fighter of this generation?Posted September 15, 2013 2:12 pm
Good article and excellent points. In regards to judge C.J. Ross, we as boxing fans can write to the Nevada Athletic Commission or any boxing commission for that matter and perhaps something may be done about it. However, how about the boxers, managers, trainers and promoters, or even the networks? Why can they as a group protest to the commission?
They are too concern about making money and tend to forget that these type of judges’ misconduct creates a negative impact on the sport. They should be the ones doing something about it…that is unless they are part of the problem.Posted September 15, 2013 2:10 pm
canelo made floyd miss a lot. canelo was real close in the speed department. floyd was good at running and controling and setting up his distance and angles. floyd had a tough opponent and did good. too bad floyd made the cathweight. this can only count against everythingPosted September 15, 2013 2:09 pm
future floyd opponents ggg, garcia, maybe mathysee.Posted September 15, 2013 2:02 pm
the best part of the fight was mayweathers entrance with lil wayne. they had that bass hittin HARD. it helped raise the intensity. i thought it was an awesome ring entrance the way they had the bass hittin in the stadium. intense. i thought canelo would do more go all out and leave it all in the ring. i have to say i feel like canelo may not have done that. mathysse sure did though. i think an immediate rematch is in order for mathysee n garcia. they had the best fight of the nightPosted September 15, 2013 1:59 pm
Floyd would be bigger, stronger, and solid versus the PAC man. Body shots all day for Floyd. Many can’t take those. PAC has the speed and pop. But that one two gift his bouncing is all he got. I think Floyd knows that. After Marquez knocks Timothy out he will beat manny again. If he gets past Rios. Floyd and manny will never happen. Plus I think Floyd now thinks manny is not worth it. Floyd will be the first African American to retire undefeated. He will see to that. Go Floyd, go ward, and keep on going Alvarez. Good fighters.Posted September 15, 2013 1:58 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Te tumbo: Guess one reads what one wants to read….You’re trying to paint a picture of Mayweather as some kind of invicible Superman, which he is not….Just a guy who’s gotten really good at protecting his weakspota and utilizing his strong-points in a boxing-ring…But I don’t know why i’m adressing you…It feels kinda beneath me..Posted September 15, 2013 1:54 pm
Te tumbo, it seems that the author said Canelo should’ve tried something different, not that he would’ve beaten Floyd had he tried something different. I agree that if plan a isn’t working, u move on to plan b. the lack of ability to adjust on the fly, is the thing that gets fighters asses whipped. See Zab Judah’s dad shouting the same directions over and offer fight after fight no matter what occurs in the fight, or ruben Guerrero offering no new gameplan for 12 roundsPosted September 15, 2013 1:51 pm
very poor perspective shared in this article. as IF some magical words of superior coaching in the corner was going to result in something to stymie Floyd? something that 44 previous corners haven’t been able to do? Face It: Floyd is simply that great, and poised, and resilient, and elusive, and talented, and intelligent. he’s the very best of his generation, there’s no doubt about that. a matchup v. Pacquiao* is meaningless. that would actually result in the “shellacking” that Eubanks erroneously attributed to this bout. there are no longer two fighters everybody is talking about, only “the One”.Posted September 15, 2013 1:46 pm
Killing Moon The Soothsayer
Hey, great article Taj and i’m not only saying that, because I agree with everything you wrote(but mostly LOL)….
Mayweather is a signed fighter with a contract to fulfill and actually the best thing he has done for boxing in his career(Which Mayweather surely can live with, since he’s getting paid the bomb) it brings huge media interest and promotes boxing….So even if Pac-man is the only fight that truly matters, he’ll hang around atleast 4 fights more…And I doubt showtime is not pressuring him in the direction of a either a Pac-man fight and or a fight with a smaller MW or maye they’ll send him overseas….And I think Mayweather knew that it was a contract with strings attached..And rightly so with the money he’s getting paid…But we’ll see…Posted September 15, 2013 1:34 pm
I CAN’T LEAVE A COMMENT……I’M POSTING TO FAST REMEMBERPosted September 15, 2013 1:20 pm