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BEE-J: You’re a JOKE, dude.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:01 pm 


PEEJ

Actually you are the joke. I am telling you facts. I haven’t fabricated anything. It is all truth. What you say about Pac offering rematches to them may be true but the fact is Pac turned them down initially. He may now be willing to offer them rematches but that ship has sailed. Just like the Mayweather train. That ship has sailed also because of Pac not wanting to take the test and his greed by turning down 40 mil.

Posted September 19, 2013 9:49 am 


PEEJ

No i didn’t Squared Circle. I already told you I could care less about what he is offering them now or a couple of months ago. Pac is no longer in the driver seat. Bradley wanted the rematch, Marquez said he would do the rematch but wanted a much bigger piece of the pie and Pac declined. That is all I need to know.

Posted September 19, 2013 9:48 am 


TARK

I’m anxious to see the Bradley-Marquez fight… Tim might finally put it together.. But maybe not.. Provodnikov has some interesting combinations. He crossed Bradley up with his mix of shots. Tim was never really hurt before … but he was on the verge of getting flattened.

Posted September 19, 2013 12:55 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

BEE-J: Did you even read the article I directed you to that proves that PacMan offered both Bradley and JMM rematches???

Of course you didn’t. Because you don’t want to know the truth and just keep repeating LIES like a broken record. You’re a JOKE, dude.

Posted September 18, 2013 8:07 pm 


Hidalgo

“even Mayweather’s inevitable age-related decline must be evaluated on a fight-by-fight basis and Mayweather hasn’t experienced half the wear-and-tear that Marquez has experienced.”

That’s a fact te tumbo. Largely in part because of Mayweather’s defensive skills but also because he hasn’t fought as long nor anywhere near as much as Marquez. JMM has had 62 bouts over 20 years. Floyd has had 45 over 17 years. That’s 17 more fights for Marquez than Mayweather or an average of 5.7 per year over the three additional years that Marquez had been fighting. That’s a lot of wear and tear that Mayweather never even had the opportunity to be subjected to.

And, if Floyd does happen to fight for three more years, we are looking at 4 to 6 fights max by the end of that time. Still nowhere close to the number of bouts Marquez has had to date.

Posted September 18, 2013 6:19 pm 


te tumbo

even Mayweather’s inevitable age-related decline must be evaluated on a fight-by-fight basis and Mayweather hasn’t experienced half the wear-and-tear that Marquez has experienced. Marquez himself has stated that at best a fighter can peak at 38. he’s now 40 and on sustain mode for as long as he can actually perform at that level but his remaining ability must also be judged on a fight-by-fight basis. he will eventually “get old”. whether it be overnight on a fight-night or over time during a well-deserved retirement remains to be seen.

Posted September 18, 2013 4:55 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Anyone know the odds on this? I figure Marquez should be less than a 2/1 fave, probably -150. It’s a pick em fight though, unless Bradley is now weather beaten after some rough fights.

Posted September 18, 2013 4:23 pm 


TJ

te tumbo

I WILL ADMIT, I HAVEN’T REALLY followed this thread, but as KOs go, this one lives in my mind as tho’ it was yesterday. It sounded like a gunshot when Tommy connected with CHOLO’s jaw and he was out before his chin hit the canvas.

DURAN was a living legend and to see him stretched after he had extended HAGLER was awesome. As far as I was aware he hadn’t really been floored even and it possibly fuelled, mistakenly in HEARNS a belief he could KO The MARVELOUS ONE!!!!!!

He boxed on for another 10 years beating THE BLADE for the SMW crown and no one else managed to hammer him in this fashion, altho did he get stopped by PAT LAWLOR?

Posted September 18, 2013 4:11 pm 


largo

Bradley ain’t losing this fight.

Posted September 18, 2013 3:27 pm 


largo

“Only shot Bradley has in my mind is if Marquez gets OLD in the ring….” There you have it, SREDMOND’s perfect prediction; if Marquez wins that’s what SREDMOND expects to happen & if Bradley wins, well Marquez got old in the ring. It couldn’t get better than that!!! Brilliant.

Posted September 18, 2013 3:26 pm 


te tumbo

TJ, Hearns v. Duran was a mismatch going in. Duran was never a true or elite middle (or welter for that matter). it was also a one-off not the culmination of a long-running and controversial rivalry. the context of that matchup is simply not comparable to Marquez v. Pacquiao* IV.

Posted September 18, 2013 3:24 pm 


te tumbo

“When Manny went down I thought he had been shot from the Grassy Knoll by Lee Harvey Oswalds Ghost…”, which is what many people at ringside or in their living rooms also thought at the moment of impact. for that moment it seemed like we had witnessed a live execution(?!). otherwise, even Duran was groggily attempting to get up after being KTFO by Hearns; same with Junior; only Martinez’s KO of Williams is comparable but it is ultimately exceeded by the prominence of the players, the intensity of the rivalry, and the unprecedented brutality of the KO Marquez scored v. Pacquiao* AS predicted by both fighters who were seeking the same “desired result” that only Marquez was able to achieve. it’s in the books and it’s #1. unless somebody (ANYbody) can identify another KO that was more prominent, more decisive, and more brutal.

Posted September 18, 2013 3:20 pm 


TJ

TE TUMBO, S REDMOND has a valid point. TOMMY HEARNS’ 2 round KO of DURAN was ENORMOUS. No one believed DURAN could ever be humbled face down, quivering on the deck. He was boxing’s ultimate hardman who KO’d horses!

That image is etched on my mind….

Pac had been KO’d twice previously…….

HEARNS over DINAMITA for me!

Posted September 18, 2013 3:16 pm 


PEEJ

So then you must also think Pac was on PED for a lot of his fights then.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:11 pm 


Buster

Marqeuz rioded up in Pac and probably will in the bradley match

Posted September 18, 2013 12:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Bradley is possibly a damaged fighter his admissions about his health post Provodnikov trouble me… Only shot he has in my mind is if Marquez gets OLD in the ring… Beyond that Bradley’s gonna eat it..

Posted September 18, 2013 12:08 pm 


malachi

Marquez is that dude but I hate to see him fight Timmy because his style is all wrong for marquez,he’s not gonna stand and trade like his last fight and he even expressed that in the face off he’s gonna outbox my man for twelve like $ Mayweather did…yuuup!

Posted September 18, 2013 10:59 am 


PEEJ

Too bad Pac declined the rematches with Bradley and Marqeuz originally. Bradley wanted to rematch with Pac and Pac declined saying he already beat him and said everybody already knew who won. Then when it came to Marqeuz he finally said he would rematch Pac but wanted a lot more money. But unfortunately Pac did not want to give him more money so Marquez declined the rematch also. Pac is no longer in the driver seat with A level or elite fighters.

Posted September 18, 2013 10:49 am 


PEEJ

Yeah the record books may say one thing but everyone will remember the KO with out looking at the record books. Folks will say how many times did they fight and people will respond not to sure but the last one Pac was laying face down. Marquez definitely won the war.

Posted September 18, 2013 10:46 am 


SREDMOND

Marquez KO of Pacquiao at te Elite level ranks right there with Thomas Hearns putting Duran flat on his face…Even Roy Jones got up wobbling from the Tarver KO… Fact is that to see a Great fighter starched in that manner is a true rarity… Hearns and Marquez took ATG level boxers and marched them towards deaths door with a single blow…These images are historic and impossible to forget…

Posted September 18, 2013 10:08 am 


te tumbo

“. . . to call it ‘the #1 KO in Boxing history’ is nothing but your opinion . . .” it’s FACT, which as usual, I’m pointing out First. otherwise, name one more spectacular KO that also includes the elements of rivalry and one ATG fighter who made it his personal mission to stalk and corner (NOT avoid) Pacquiao* for the rivalry-ending “desired result”. in fact, Marquez’s win was so spectacular that it alone eclipses Pacquiao’s* combined “draw” and “official’ wins. Face It: the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is GREATER. Viva Marquez!

Posted September 18, 2013 9:44 am 


Jones

Jmm took Peds. Angel heredia has been caught with a number of athletes he pumped up including jail time Marion Jones

Posted September 18, 2013 8:57 am 


RAYGORDONREID

MARQUEZ CRUZ

Posted September 18, 2013 8:44 am 


Happyboy

HE T00K THE DECISI0N AWAY FR0M ALL Y0U MINI” CJ R0SS” WH0 HAD SC0RED MANNY BETTER THAN HIM BY PUTTING HIM T0 SLEEP, S0METHING EVEN MANNY C0ULDN’ T D0 T0 HIM.

Posted September 18, 2013 3:52 am 


Happyboy

Squared Prick, Marquez CL0SED the SH0W!

Posted September 18, 2013 3:45 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

The record books will show that PacMan won the series with JMM. Bottom line. And memories are short — especially in America. JMM should’ve accepted the challenge for a 5th fight, just to prove that KO wasn’t a juiced-up lucky fluke and he can beat PacMan again.

JMM chose to fight Bradley instead. There’s nothing left to say about this.

Posted September 18, 2013 3:09 am 


Ray Ray

My only question is how hungry is Marquez. As good as he is he’s long in the tooth. Didn’t he say he would retire after manny? On the other hand Bradley took more of a beating than expected last time out. This fight is any1s. I’m going 2 b diff and pick Bradley….

Posted September 18, 2013 1:48 am 


Tomato Can

JMM has nothing else to prove. Really, that was epic, and it was a great way to get closure for a long rivalry. If Marquez was on the receiving end of that KO, I doubt Pacquiao would feel the need to do it a fifth time. After all that’s exactly what Pacquiao was going for.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:42 am 


Tomato Can

HappyBoy, He wouldn’t refuse. I’m sure there are plenty of others that wouldn’t either. But how many others does does Arum have left, at this point? It seems to me Manny’s biggest challenges, besides Bradley and Marquez, don’t fight for Top Rank.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:39 am 


Hidalgo

“Marquez and PAC fought 4x because there was never a win absent any discussion on both sides… ”

No, they fought 4x because Marquez felt he won their first three fights, got robbed of a win in all three, and he wanted to prove in their fourth fight that he could beat Pacquiao without a doubt.

Beristan said Marquez would never get the win unless he knocked Pacquiao out. Marquez did just that.

Regardless of what we read or hear from anyone except Marquez himself, I imagine Juan figures he proved his point and there’s nothing left to prove.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:36 am 


Happyboy

T0MAT0 CAN – RI0S JUST CAME 0FF A L0SS T0 ALVARAD0, A GIFT DECISI0N VS ABRIL, IS AN EMPL0YEE 0F T0P RANK WHERE L0SERS ( N0NIT0 D0NAIRE & BUM BUM RI0S) GET BETTER 0PP0RTUNITIES THAN WINNERS ALVARAD0 & RIG0 S0 WHY W0ULD HE REFUSE THIS 0PP0RTUNITY? T0P RANK/HB0 SUCKS, PERI0D!

Posted September 18, 2013 1:33 am 


Happyboy

If Mayweather needs 2 beat Pac 2 be c0nsidered ” TBE” why can’t the K0 by Dinamita be c0nsidered the best in B0XING hist0ry?

Posted September 18, 2013 1:24 am 


Th Quiet Man

Angel Herdia = Steriods = Juan Manual Marquez

Posted September 18, 2013 1:21 am 


Tomato Can

Props to Arum for getting this fight put together. I think it’s an interesting fight. I have to go with Marques based on his over all ring skills. But Bradley has the goods to pull this fight out, if he’s not damaged goods. Hopefully, that’s not the case though, but Bradley did get pounded in the Provodnikov fight.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:11 am 


Tomato Can

I understand why Rios would accept a fight in China with random testing against Pacquiao. This is the biggest fight of his life. Both Marquez and Bradley already had the biggest fights of the their lives. Neither one of them are budging for Pacquiao at this point.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:04 am 


Tomato Can

Pacquiao is/was a great fighter, but he’s no longer in the drivers seat. Heck he’s not even in the drivers seat, any longer, with his fellow top rank fighters. Somethings going to have to give.

Posted September 18, 2013 1:01 am 


Tomato Can

Pacquiao is always having problems making fights, yet it’s always everyone else’s fault. Yeah right, only in PacLand, that is… Hey but at least Brandon Rios, is willing to go to China, as well as except testing and anything else Pac wants, to get the fight, like Clottey, Cotto, DeLahoya, Mosely, Margarito, and Marquez (many times) before him… It kind of makes you wonder, if Pacquiao can’t make fights with his Top Rank stable mates, how the hell would he have ever made a fight happen with evil Mayweather Jf.??? LMAO.

Posted September 18, 2013 12:55 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

te tumbo: You can say whatever you want, but if you want to know the TRUTH, just Bing or Google, “Pacquiao rematch no longer on the cards.”

The article proves that Team PacMan offered JMM a 5th fight a few months back and JMM refused it. Then JMM released an official statement to the media a few weeks ago saying he will NEVER fight PacMan again — regardless of money, purse split percentages, or any other conditions that could be totally re-negotiated.

Sure that was a spectacular KO, but to call it “the #1 KO in Boxing history” is nothing but your opinion as “the #1 PacMan Hater.” And you know what they say: “opinions are like a-holes and some stink more than others.”

Posted September 18, 2013 12:52 am 


zera

seeing this fight as Juan Diaz vs JMM… JMM would win this one,

Posted September 18, 2013 12:45 am 


KO OF THE YEAR

Public-your stupidity knows no boundaries. Anybody with half a brain knows that Marquez a master at his craft. The man is a true professional…….period. No luck just dedicated to his craft.

Posted September 18, 2013 12:09 am 


Ray

are you kidding me? JMM is a terrific counter puncher. Marquez is gonna bust up Bradley. Bradley is gonna be lost.

Posted September 18, 2013 12:05 am 


GaryintheBronx

Tim wins this fight much easier than the Provo bout. JMM is way too old to keep up with Bradley’s pace. By the third round JMM will show his age and fall out and be pretty much a rerun of his Mayweather match. Wish this fight was this Saturday!!!

Posted September 17, 2013 11:12 pm 


Slow

PPV numbers please. Usually when there’s a tremendous PPV numbers, they usually send out a press statement proclaiming how great the PPV number is within a week or less even if the total number of PPV buys has not been counted yet. Let’s see if they make any such statements within two weeks. If they do make some kind of statement then the Floyd vs Camelo is a blockbuster hit. otherwise… it will all be quiet for a long while.

Posted September 17, 2013 10:59 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

Aside from the fact he drinks p1ss, JMM is a clever clever clever fighter and rough as old boots.

Bradley is a great athlete, but not a great thinker.

Bradley gets narked and tries to impose himself if someone catches him, and he won`t be able to do that vs JMM, he will be picked off by a counterpunching master.

Posted September 17, 2013 10:48 pm 


BLUESMAN

Bradley, who is a punk and rank amateur, will be CRUSHED!

Posted September 17, 2013 10:24 pm 


badger

agree with Redmond. Bradly was beat up by Ruslan.

Posted September 17, 2013 10:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez and PAC fought 4x because there was never a win absent any discussion on both sides… Well that dynamic changed the night Marquez rendered Pacquiao unconscious..If JMM chooses new challenges over another Pacquiao bout that’s to be commended because he’s leaving the biggest fight for him monetarily on the table…Marquez is 40 years old he does NOT have to spend the rest of his career facing Manny Pacquiao, PAC man is not a belt holder he has been eclipsed by Marquez as a P4P fighter…JMM spent 8 years chasing and fighting Pacquiao is he wants to savor his victory he’s certainly earned it… Frazier and Ali only fought 3c, Corrales and Castillo what 2 or 3? Barrera And Morales 3, PAC vs Morales 3…. 5 fights is unusual and in modern boxing unheard of….Give that Old man credit he was beyond focused and achieved his goal…

Posted September 17, 2013 10:17 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah Pac was easily out boxing Marquez. He was doing is so easily he decided to take a nap in the middle of the round.

Posted September 17, 2013 10:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Bradley is a guy who’s been thru 2 wars his discussion of Provodnikov and the postfight trauma lead me to think that Marquez is gonna get to him in a big way… Bradley’s is the lessor boxer and puncher… He’s a brave well conditioned athlete but watching him discuss slurring his words for months with Max Kellerman makes me think Marquez is gonna ring his bell…He is not gonna be able to back Marquez off and his tendency to be wide is gonna be his undoing… Unless Marquez gets old I see Bradley getting stopped or losing badly..

Posted September 17, 2013 10:03 pm 


Anonymous

Bradley will never fight Floyd or Garcia and those are the fights everyone wants to see Arum keeps his fights in the same camp so he gets all the dough. Look for this winner to fight Manny again what a joke…

Posted September 17, 2013 9:45 pm 


largo

Another misleading fact, IMO, is that BECAUSE Marquez looked like a million dollars against Pac, he’ll be equally effective against a younger, faster & a very good boxer like Tim…he has Pac #, Tim is a total different animal; Bradley all the way…

Posted September 17, 2013 9:34 pm 


largo

Bradley is too strong, vibrant, fast & tenacious to lose to Juan; the fact that Roach was considering to stop the fight against Provo-because of the damage inflicted by Tim, get lost on most people’s analysis. Bradley has the power to hurt Marquez & I think he will. No way is little Tim losing this fight, no way.

Posted September 17, 2013 9:28 pm 


largo

Tim is gonna beat old-man Juan up, down & side-ways; He’ll be not only stronger but faster & he definitely is coming to box. Marquez lost the opportunity to retire on the very top of his HOF career just like Roy did & it’s down-hill from here on out.

Posted September 17, 2013 9:19 pm 


srminimo

It’s tough to pick against Marquez, but I think Bradley has the kind of style that can give him problems. Bradley’s not going to stand and trade in this fight like he did with Provo> He’s going to run, pot shot, hold, run, come in with his head and run some more. Marquez should win simply because he’s a superior offensive fighter and Bradley’s tendency to jump in could cost him dearly, but he’s going to make it ugly in the meantime and I would not be too surprised if Bradley gets tje upset.

Posted September 17, 2013 9:10 pm 


Tomato Can

Bradley will lose if he fights Marquez like he fought Provodnikov. But if he boxes Marquez the entire fight he can pull it out.

Posted September 17, 2013 9:08 pm 


Tomato Can

Marquez

Posted September 17, 2013 9:05 pm 


largo

Bradley.

Posted September 17, 2013 9:04 pm 


KO OF THE YEAR

NO need for a 5th fight, hell if Pac was so confident in his so called wins over Marquez he wouldn’t have stretched it out for 8 F** *ing years!

Posted September 17, 2013 8:56 pm 


te tumbo

SQUARED CIRCLE, i don’t blame Marquez for blowing Pacquiao* off following his arrogant purse-split conditions and his refusal of Marquez’s offer to face him in Mexico City, which would’ve sold-out Azteca Stadium Aaand avoided U.S. taxes. besides, he scored the “desired result” that Pacquiao* never could. not even with a 3-KD headstart. Marquez accepted less money to make every bout after the first happen; Mayweather accepted less to face DLH; IF Pacquiao* Reeeeally wanted a 5th bout v. Marquez, he would stop his pissin and moanin and agree to whatEver conditions Marquez demands for the opportunity to redeem being victimized by the #1 KO in Boxing history. that’s what his primary P4P rivals have done and it’s gratifying to see that it’s benefited them both and Boxing in the long run.

Posted September 17, 2013 8:44 pm 


Tomato Can

Looks like Pacquiao is content with fighting in China now. Now he doesn’t have to worry about this pesky American taxes. The thing is fighters that beat him aren’t going to want to fight in China.

Posted September 17, 2013 8:36 pm 


hecubus01

why was JMM’s KO of pacquiao questionable?

Posted September 17, 2013 8:17 pm 


hecubus01

im a fan of both JMM and Pacquiao, but if JMM doesn’t fight pacquiao again, id be really disappointed. Pacquiao didnt have to give JMM a 3rd OR a 4th fight and he did. Pacquiao still leads their series 2-1-1

Posted September 17, 2013 8:04 pm 


Hecdog

Bradley and Ped Man Marquez were both offered fights against legendary Manny Pacquiao, and both guys ran away from it. Both would have received much more money than they are making fighting each other. Ans Manny Pacquiao ALWAYS dictates terms because he is the much BIGGER draw. Ped Man draws lousy. This fight will draw very low ratings. Manny & Floyd are the draws in boxing. It must be humiliating for both fighters to have questionable wins vs Manny, and run like crazy to never fight him after he gave PedMan Marquez plenty of chances. And Bradley, well we all know what happened.

Posted September 17, 2013 8:00 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

te tumbo: JMM released an official statement to the media a few weeks ago saying that he will NEVER, regardless of conditions that can always be re-negotiated, fight PacMan again. JMM is a great fighter and I’ve always liked him, but I’m very disappointed that he’s outright refusing a 5th fight — a chance to prove than can stop or beat PacMan again.

Bradley was also offered a rematch vs. Pac, so both JMM and Bradley chose to fight each other instead of having a rematch with Pacman. Even if there was some rematch clause with Bradley, there is nothing that should prevent Bradley from giving PacMan a rematch in the future after the JMM fight.

The entire boxing public knows that Pac beat Bradley and got ROBBED in one of the worst decisions in history. Bradley should be doing everything in his power to get a rematch with PacMan — to prove that he really can beat him.
He also owes Provo a rematch because that fight should’ve been scored a Draw.
Rea talk.

Posted September 17, 2013 7:53 pm 


WHAT!?!

JMM wins this easily. Bradley wouldn’t even be on anyones radar if he wasn’t given 2 gift decisions back-to-back. Bradley gets points for toughness but JMM is on equal terms there and in every other aspect of fighting JMM is the clear cut winner. Bradley gets demolished for good this time.

Posted September 17, 2013 7:36 pm 


te tumbo

meanwhile, i’m favoring Marquez to defeat Bradley, primarily because a fighter that can’t hurt Marquez is in for a very rough and volatile night. Bradley does enjoy advantages in mobility and handspeed but it will all depend on the fight the actually fights. in any case, whether it be a slugfest or 12-round chess match, i give the nod to Marquez, which should place a golden seal on his ATG career.

Posted September 17, 2013 7:00 pm 


te tumbo

SQUARED CIRCLE, i don’t know about Pacquiao* “offering” Marquez a rematch as much as he was establishing conditions that he(!?) required for a 5th bout, e.g., telling Marquez(?!?) how much his purse-split would be(?!). this was followed by Pacquiao* rejecting Marquez’s choice of location. makes you wonder which one of the two utterly DEMOLISHED the other in their last bout(?). answer? MARQUEZ, which traditionally gives him the right to dictate terms. of course, it’s nothing new from Team Pacquiao*. they’ve been pissing in Marquez’s face for Eight (8) F’n Years, but not any more. the rivalry is OVER. Marquez is GREATER. Viva Marquez!

Posted September 17, 2013 6:56 pm 


SREDMOND

PAC did have a rematch clause and went with Marquez… The “Crying Queen” is consistently one of the most ill informed posters on this site with his “created facts” and weird politics…Marquez does NOT have to KO Pacquaio again he already did it… One times a Charm, meanwhile Manny NEVER kept the tough Mexican down..

Posted September 17, 2013 6:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez is gonna knock Bradley out… Bradley admitted he suffered ill effects from that slugfest with Providnikov and was concussed while slurring his words…
Marquez is a clinical fighter who can punch, Bradley is often WIDE he’s gonna get clipped by the second best counterpuncher in the sport…

Posted September 17, 2013 6:50 pm 


largo

Tim Bradley.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez does NOT have to fight Pacquaio again unless he wants to make the $$$$ beyond that his walk off homer was picture perfect… Manny got obliterated and they fought 4x, I respect Marquez for going after another Title…
Manny is the Champion of what division now? And that’s coming from a Pacquaio fan…

Posted September 17, 2013 6:47 pm 


Boxtradamus

Nope. Pacquiao had a rematch clause with Bradley and he turned it down because he thought Marquez Fight was more lucrative. Thats why he was rightfully knocked out for turning down his chance to avenge his defeat. Go take a CHRONOLOGY class.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:45 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

BEEJ: NO, that is blatant LIE. PacMan offered Bradley and JMM rematches a fewm months ago and both refused. I prove it. Where is your evidence?

For a guy who claims be Mexican , you’re one of the biggest FMJ nuthugging fan-boyz in the world. And that’s why I’ll never believe anything you have to say. You’re a straight liar.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:32 pm 


HatersBeWare

pac fans are obsessed with Maywether. This article has nothing to do with Maywether, but yet people like the king of beat street or whatever have to bring his name up with PAC. I am tired of it. It really ruins the site. Keeps to the subject presented. Soon and I do mean soon, you will no longer have a reason to even watch boxing because your time will be over, after your little drawf champion will be unceremoniously be removed from boxing by brutal knockout by Rios. Your country will never ever produce anyone to replace PAC, and all of us true boxing fans will breath a sigh of relief, as the golden age of discussing boxing topic will return, minus the fanatical little ant people always screaming and yelling about their little ant god. PAC would never be able to beat Maywether, and the beauty is that he will never even have to face him, as the fairy tale legend of the ant king will die in several month in a cold and foreign land called China. So ant little ant people get your posts in while you can, for soon you will be back to watching soccer. Bye, bye now..

Posted September 17, 2013 6:27 pm 


Papo

I amy add that it sure took Top Rank® a while to come up with an udercard for this fight. Not to mention the poor promotion, especially for a PPV event.

Although, like others mentioned,no-way no-how this should be a PPV event.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:19 pm 


Papo

I pick Bradley by decision on this one. He’s against a tough and much younger opponent who carries his 147 pounds very well. Marquez would do well fighting at light welterweight, though his age will show at either weight.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:15 pm 


thetruth101

This should be a regular HBO fight not a PPV, other than the Mexican Fight Fans no one else is paying for this fight. Casual fans don’t even know who Bradley is.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:13 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Pac was the one that refused fights with both Bradley and Marquez

Posted September 17, 2013 6:10 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Too bad both of these guys have already refused a rematch with PacMan (if he beats Rios). Bradley knows he lost to Pac, and JMM knows he has a snowballs chance in H3LL of stopping Pac again.

So will FMJ finally give the fans what we’ve been waiting for after Pac beats Rios??? Of course not. He’d rather continue to duck PacMan like he’s already done for years now. That ‘O’ only means so much when you lost to Castillo and refused to fighter the very best when they were still in their primes. Now FMJ also has to prove that he beat the very best at 154lbs (3G, Lara, Maravilla, etc). But will probably never see the cherry-picking chess master of over-hyped promotions take any of those fights either. How
disappointing!

Posted September 17, 2013 6:08 pm 


PEEJ

This fight should be on HBO

Posted September 17, 2013 6:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

I made MY prediction 2 YEARS before this Fight was even announced. Marquez is simply TOO COORDINATED for Bradley. I can’t wait to celebrate another RIGHTEOUS prediction.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:01 pm 


PEEJ

If Marquez is a cheater so is Pac. He avoided all those test too and is only now willing to do it in Chuna. I’ll take Marquez by late round stoppage or decision.

Posted September 17, 2013 6:00 pm 


terror tim

Marquez takes this rather easily and might even stop Bradley. Marquez is going to have to leave Top Rank too cause all that is left is Pac for a fight for him. Would like to see him vs Broner or Garcia.

Posted September 17, 2013 5:43 pm 


Hecdog

Ped punching Marquez will win this. He did all he could to avoid USADA & VADA testing and he succeeded. Marquez is a cheater!

Posted September 17, 2013 5:24 pm 


Fight Aficionado

None of these boxers is a PPV player unless they’re on the B side of a card against a star. Bradley vs Marquez is a decent scrap for regular HBO boxing. Lomachenko and Cruz are interesting but won’t make a dent in the weak PPV sales. Forgetaboutit.

Posted September 17, 2013 5:02 pm 


Mick the Marmalizer

Frankie Gavin’s gonna clean either of these 2′s clock next year!!…………

Posted September 17, 2013 4:50 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

I am rooting for Marquez to beat Bradley.

Posted September 17, 2013 4:33 pm 


RAYGORDONREID

crruz

Posted September 17, 2013 4:27 pm 


RAYGORDONREID

juan marquez

Posted September 17, 2013 4:25 pm 



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