It’s Me, Ernie
That’s right…Posted September 20, 2013 11:25 am
Tark, you are making me look bad in calling you an asset. You are a big disappointment. You always cry for attention than you fail to articulate. Earnie is your best friend , he verifies your existence and you smear him all the time. You don’t deserve Earnie, you should be alone in your depressed confusion.Posted September 20, 2013 2:15 am
It’s Me, Ernie
I haven’t posted in over a week, what are you referring to?…Posted September 20, 2013 12:12 am
Atlas also picked Zab Judah to beat Floyd… The man is an idiot.Posted September 19, 2013 4:02 pm
Idiot Ernie.., You couldn’t predict the weather 5 minutes from nowPosted September 19, 2013 4:00 pm
If it makes you feel better, teddy Atlas also favored Canelo. No one ever favored Tark to make a sensible comment. You can bank on Tark stinking up the comment board. Don’t let that bring you down Tark, I think you are an asset to the site.Posted September 19, 2013 3:19 pm
Boxradamus was WRONG AGAIN!!! Picked Matthysse to stop Garcia.
Everybody picked Floyd to beat Alvarez … except Ivanov…Posted September 19, 2013 2:49 pm
“Canelo only had to drop 1.5 pounds from his previous weigh in and people were crying that he was weight drained. ”
Braggadamus you’ve never boxed or competed in any sport that required you to make weight. So how would you have any inkling of an idea whether the extra 1.5 pounds that Canelo had to lose made him weight drained?
Answer: You don’t.
Making weight is like lifting weights. After a certain point every extra pound feels like ten pounds. And every extra pound becomes exponentially more difficult to lose–or lift. Everybody’s body has a threshold. As the body approaches its threshold it is approaching its breaking point. Push the body too hard, it will likely weaken or break down.
Wait. You’ve probably never lifted weights either. Oh well.Posted September 19, 2013 2:09 pm
Hey Fritz that was my quotePosted September 19, 2013 2:07 pm
Oh and the winner of Bradley/MarquezPosted September 19, 2013 1:34 pm
Fightfan that is exactly right,.
…and the fan plan to GOATness is simply for him to finally fight the best from 140 to 154 before his last six fight contract is up, which can be at least partly determined via him fighting Garcia at 140 and the winner of Molina and Golovkin at 154.Posted September 19, 2013 1:32 pm
Actually Floyd started the same weight Oscar did but Oscar fought the best at Jr Middle and didnt insist on dehydrating his opponents with ridiculous catchweightsPosted September 19, 2013 1:26 pm
The conclusion is “The One” stayed in the movies where it belongs. Canelo is good but ordinary, Floyd is better but boring and harmless. If this is the best of boxing, boxing is in trouble. Young people can not be fooled like us. They just reject this sort of pastime, it’s more of a torture to sit 1 hour in front of the TV and watch two midgets failing to hurt each other. Not only it’s mundane but it’s expensive too – who are they fooling? You have to pay me watch it, these writers are masochists spending time to write about this corrupt “sport”.Posted September 19, 2013 1:22 pm
Jesus , are we still force fed this crap ?Posted September 19, 2013 12:08 pm
Done deal`thank you!Posted September 19, 2013 11:20 am
By the way Floyd started fighting pro at 130lbs. I.e. 9 time world champ in FIVE different weight divisions. Majority of his opponents have been naturally bigger than him. ODH is 5’11″, Shane is 5’9″ 1/2, Corrales was 5’10″ 1/2 (same hight as GGG), Mitchell was 5’11″ as well. Also every opponent he has beat since moving to WW has been much heavier with the exception of Judha and Marquez. Canelo and Ortiz were 165 in the ring. Even Gurrero and Hatton out weight Floyd in the ring coming from LWW so stop the size stuff. Like Floyd said its skill more than size. I see many double standard arguments. How can you discredit Canelo résumé, but GGG credit for his? Please spare me.Posted September 19, 2013 9:27 am
PBF continues his reign. He is by far the best boxer in the world. He can beat every fighter y’all want him to fight and y’all would still make excuses as to why he isn’t great. Pure hate and lack of logic. It’s pathetic. Like he said “hype them up and I wi knock them down.”Posted September 19, 2013 9:19 am
L0VE-THE-SP0RT – THANK Y0U F0R KEEPING IT REAL!Posted September 19, 2013 5:12 am
Remy… ESABATM pip-squeakPosted September 19, 2013 2:07 am
No 1 dimetional fighter will beat Floyd, including Manny.Posted September 19, 2013 12:01 am
About time Tark u paid your respects to Ken. Old Yank your a complete disaster. You couldn’t wear Kens underwear if you tried. Ken was great and was the Evander Holyfield of the 70′s. GOD BLESS KEN AND THE US OF A !Posted September 18, 2013 11:30 pm
Ken Norton had a great career…
On my cards he beat Ali 3 times… He gave Larry Holmes a tough, close fight, and won a decision over Jimmy Young. He came up short against a few big punchers, but made his mark in Boxing — like his son Ken Norton Jr did in Pro Football by winning 3 NFL Championships.Posted September 18, 2013 11:21 pm
MY conclusion from this bout is that Floyd showed once again that he is the Messiah of Boxing. Just as Jesus turned Water into WINE Floyd turned Canelo into a CHERRY!!! And I predicted that he WOULD. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!Posted September 18, 2013 11:17 pm
Canelo only had to drop 1.5 pounds from his previous weigh in and people were crying that he was weight drained. To make 154 Golovkin would have to drop 5 lbs from his previous weigh in vs Macklin. SO Floyd shouldn’t take the Fight as he will get no credit for the Victory. Golovkin would be 3 TIMES more weight drained than Canelo was.Posted September 18, 2013 11:13 pm
Remy — Go play your petulant role as a bell ringer late to the news elsewhere.
I will show my respects in my personal way. I’m not in need of your antics or insults here.Posted September 18, 2013 9:05 pm
Remy — There is a time and a place for everything; including your crocodile tears.Posted September 18, 2013 9:01 pm
Was it that complicated? Does Canelo move to hit someone? He plants. If you’re not there, he’s out of luck. Trout could have done the same thing except the judges were against him & he had to try and force the issue. Genius beat him? Or incompetence got beat?Posted September 18, 2013 8:49 pm
If Canelo wouldve pressed the issue early like most of us expected, he wouldve been stopped late after tiring out. It seems Canelo’s strategy was to pace himself, try to see how well he could do boxing vs Floyd and put the pressure on from the middle rounds until the end where he’d figure to have more stamina to chase and brawl late. Floyd just imrovised as the bout wore on, Canelo wanted to try and box, so Floyd boxed his head off, when Canelo got aggressive Floyd stuck and moved. This was as impressive a performance as the Corrales or Genaro Hernandez wins imo.Posted September 18, 2013 8:46 pm
Old Yank why don’t u shove back that dirty dildo you having been using in your behind and put it in your friends Tarks fat mouth. Respect the dead u creep The legend Ken Norton died and put heck of may fights for your behind to see u inconsiderate selfish nobody !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Posted September 18, 2013 8:31 pm
Remy — The news was released to the press over an hour ago. Why do your PMS rant here and now?Posted September 18, 2013 8:26 pm
Remy — Is it PMS time for you. For craps sake you made your post a few minutes ago! AND you INTERRUPTED adults talking!Posted September 18, 2013 8:23 pm
F U Tark Ken Norton died and all you guys talk about is the same old crap ignoring Kens death F U FU F UPosted September 18, 2013 8:22 pm
RE: Mayweather. There is an old adage in financial markets: Markets can remain irrational longer than investors can remain solvent. I will add a new boxing adage: Mayweather can remain boring longer than fans can remain patient.
The only thing Mayweather hates more than the memories of being smacked around by his father is being smacked around by an opponent!Posted September 18, 2013 8:18 pm
LMFAO… Edwin Rodriguez is fighting Andre Ward—IT’S ON!!!!
This pundit says.., “Scoring shots favor speed and endurance while power punches consume a lot of fuel.”
Scoring shot connotes a punch that landed cleanly—whether it was a power punch or jab. Canelo focused on the jab, not power shots. Since his jab lacks the mastery of Miguel Cotto’s jab … it wasn’t exactly a winning strategy.
This pundit says, “Alvarez is heavy for his frame and he has a hard time making the right weight for his size.”
Saul is taller than Cotto for 154… No right height for any division exists. A middleweight can be tall like Paul Williams—or short like Sergio Martinez.Posted September 18, 2013 8:16 pm
Ken Norton is Dead !Posted September 18, 2013 8:16 pm
Rigondeaux and Donaire ACTUALLY fought in the same division… Sooooo FA you really think that GGG can box as well as Floyd Mayweather? That if he was a natural WW
Fight Aficionado — As I posted earlier (here or another thread), GGG is EVERYTHING Rigondeaux IS and EVERY THING Rigondeaux IS NOT! He’s got pedegree, experience, a winning attitude and record and CLOSING POWER with EITHER HAND!Posted September 18, 2013 8:14 pm
This is a reasonably well-written article that is a bit biased toward Floyd Mayweather.
It is hard not to be biased given how dominant Floyd was in beating Alvarez.
I can only add that Floyd technically showed a jab, double jab, and jab to the body — all night. And Floyd usually does not throw a jab, double jab, or a jab to the body. Floyd did what the really great fighters do … he adapted his attack to match the weaknesses of his opponent.
Floyd is usually right hand happy, right hand leads, right hand counters.
These are amazing punches because they take longer to reach the opponent than a traditional jab. But Floyd does it against almost all his opponent.
We saw Floyd do something different against Alvarez. We say Floyd box like a traditional boxer. Jab. Jab-Cross. Defense-Counter.
it was not a brawl or a fight filled with drama. But it was a technically among the best performances in the history of the sport.Posted September 18, 2013 8:12 pm
Fight Aficionado — EXACTLY old friend!Posted September 18, 2013 8:11 pm
“GGG is no comp. weak résumé and overall lack of boxing skill. He only has a punchers chance because he has power. NOTHING else he does poses a threat to Floyd.” – That’s what guys said abotu Rigondeaux, who like GGG had a very deep amateur background. 250 amateur fights where he beat the world’s best. Everyone knows the only reason GGG doesn’t have marquee names is because they’re ducking him. DiBella admitted he won’t let Martinez anywhere close to him.Posted September 18, 2013 8:10 pm
Mayweather stepped up to take the 154 pound title from De La Hoya (when De La Hoya was De LA Hoya and before he was Fishnet Productions) and YEARS LATER he stepped up to take the 154 pound belt from the 23 year old Alvarez. ENOUGH with the bashing already! Mayweather’s legitimacy at 154 is a hell of a lot more real than Pacquiao’s vacant title win over Margarito wen NEITHER of them had an ounce of ligit at 154!Posted September 18, 2013 8:09 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk … You are an idiot. Floyd Mayweather just embarrassed Canelo Alvarez. So you think Floyd is afraid of Lara, Martirosyan, and Kirkland? You think Floyd is afraid of these guys? You are an idiot.
GGG is a different story. I think Floyd would be hesitant to get in the ring with GGG. The size difference, weight difference, power difference — it becomes so huge that it really would be dangerous. But if you think if Floyd does not fight GGG that means Floyd is not a Hall of Fame fighter or possibly in the top 5 greatest fighters of all time — then your stupidity goes beyond idiocy. You are not a boxing fan.Posted September 18, 2013 8:06 pm
Catch weight notwithstanding, are there really folks out there willing to claim that Mayweather’s schooling of Canelo was not an accomplishment? Hey folks, there is stupid and then there is STUCK ON STUPID!Posted September 18, 2013 8:04 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
FMJ is now the lineal, Ring 154lbs Champion of the world. And that means he MUST defend those 3 MAJOR titles against the very best in the world who can make weight at 154lbs — or VACATE. Starting to make sense yet???
3G, Lara, Vanes and Kirkland can call make 154lbs. Will FMJ agree to fight the best of them at his own weight class??? Probably not. What does that tell you???Posted September 18, 2013 7:53 pm
Public Enemy – As much as Canelo is a product of Fishnet Promotions, he actually does has some talent. Old men or bloated smaller guys or not, it takes something to beat Trout (or even to hang with him).Posted September 18, 2013 7:53 pm
There are two major factors that can diminsh moving up from 147lbs to 160lbs…speed and power. FMJ has only one of these, so there’s only one to lose. If he chooses to fight anyone from 160lbs, mock my words, it will be at a catchweight!Posted September 18, 2013 7:45 pm
FMJ moving up to 160lbs is a joke. Somebody look at his record, and name anyone that was bigger and actually gave Floyld a problem…there’s a reason most everyone had to refer all the way back to Castillo, for the one who gave him the most trouble. Floyd’s doesn’t carry that heavier weight talent.Posted September 18, 2013 7:41 pm
GGG would Crush Canelo in 4 rounds..Posted September 18, 2013 7:35 pm
And I promise you some plagiarizing fool will attempt to steal my, “It ain’t GGG’na happen” line within a week!Posted September 18, 2013 7:32 pm
And exactly who are the fools disrespecting GGG. He is EVERYTHING Rigondeaux is and EVERYTHING Rigondeaux is not. As a product of the old Soviet Boxing Machine with an amateur record of 345-5 (DOCUMENTED record), he is NOT to be taken lightly. Mayweather is NOT moving up to 160 to face GGG. IT AIN’T GGG’na HAPPEN!Posted September 18, 2013 7:29 pm
It has been a fine, fine ride watching a light heavy packaged into 154 pounds. And it was a fine ride watching a super middleweight packaged onto 147. But at 23 years old and with a body type that reads “one more pint Hatton” all over it, the challenge for Alvarez will be finding out if it is a fine, fine ride against the likes of GGG and Martinez at 160.
I predict Canelo WILL have his successes at 160, but he will not be the anointed one.
I also predict that his career will be OVER before he’s 28 — even if he does not realize it until he hits 30!Posted September 18, 2013 7:19 pm
Canelo is nothing special I said it before the fight and saying it after the fight. He certainly proved nothing in the ring against Floyd except that he could go 12 rounds which others have done. He showed little courage in the fight never really pressing the action just content to lose a decision.Posted September 18, 2013 7:18 pm
@EZ E. Honky tonk man LOLPosted September 18, 2013 7:02 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Okay, so FMJ won by jab ‘n grab decision like most of suspected. Another boring snooze fest of a FMJ fight… ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
If you want to see a REAL fight, get Cotto in the ring with Canelo — if Cotto is still man enough to step up the plate. Classic Mex vs. PR rivalry, so it will sell and maybe even sell out a stadium in NYC or So Cal.
Bring on Rosado too, but he has already stepped up to MW and is scheduled to fight Chocolate in late October, I think.Posted September 18, 2013 7:00 pm
Cenelo biggest issue is his record…it lacks the quality of opponents needed to get that experience necessary to perform at high level. His 42 fights were easy, designed to make him appear unstoppable, and it worked as probably all his fans, and many fans who have been waiting to see Floyd fall, believe Canelo was in fact the one.
He was bragging about knocking out his sparring partner during trainer, believing his power was going to be enough to handle Floyd. I’m sure it wasn’t difficult for Floyd Sr. to devise a plan to neutralize Canelo’s strength.Posted September 18, 2013 6:55 pm
GGG is no comp. weak résumé and overall lack of boxing skill. He only has a punchers chance because he has power. NOTHING else he does poses a threat to Floyd. Easy UD as he is not better than Canelo at all.Posted September 18, 2013 6:55 pm
FA – Danny Garcia is too young, too Green and too small at this point in time of his career for Mayweather.. Danny needs to still develope skill wise and physically.. in time Danny should grow to be a 147 pounder maybe a 154lb fighter but he’s not ready to fight Mayweather.. It would be like Vargas being fed to Tito Trinidad.. we know how that ended… no need to rush Danny down that road.. he has alot of 140lbers he can fight like Rios, Alvarado, Josesito Lopez, Mickey Garcia, Abner Mares.. Broner..Posted September 18, 2013 6:55 pm
And Floyd legs didn’t look old to me. He moved extremely well which Canelo pointed out himself .Posted September 18, 2013 6:53 pm
IMO by far the best comp is GGG or Martinez vs Floyd at 154, which they’ve both already offered to do. Third choice is Pac if he beats Rios. Unfortunately they’re all with HBO and other promoters. The world’s boxing media sheep seem to readily accept this idea that boxing promoters and TV stations can’t do business. Which is ludicrous. Of course they can they just choose not to, and the media don’t call them out. Instead they collect their press passes and suck their balls.Posted September 18, 2013 6:52 pm
Canelo is still a great boxer. Most boxers can’t fight going backward. The only one I can think of that can are klitchko, PBF, Bhop, ward, and MartinezPosted September 18, 2013 6:52 pm
PE, if they had a betting line on who Floyd fights next Garcia would be the fave. Not a fight I’d prefer but they’re both with Hayman, GBP and Showtime.Posted September 18, 2013 6:42 pm
@ dToyS: You forgot to mention Adamek, the Klitschkos, Haye, Stevenson, 300Lbs+ Nikolay Valuev, Brock Lester, The Undertaker, HHH, Honky Tonk Man, “Stone Cold” Steve Austin… Comón man, get real!! Must he go to all the way up to face legit 168lbérs who eventually enter the right at least 180Lbs while he himself weights barely 150lbs before you give him his just props?? No, I’m not much of a Floyd fan but reading comments like your’s make me wish I were.Posted September 18, 2013 6:40 pm
KL is correct, there’s nothing to “analyze” about that fight. Floyd fought exactly as we expected. He stayed in the pocket more than in the past because his legs are going. That didn’t matter because he remains elusive due to his excellent anticipation, vision and upper body movement. Canelo’s only chance was to pressure Floyd with his size and strength but he simply didn’t throw enough punches to pressure Floyd into doing anything he wanted. Floyds too fast and too slick, Canelo’s too slow and his footwork looks like quicksand. Simple.Posted September 18, 2013 6:39 pm
Hopefully Danny Low Blow Garcia fights Abner Low Blow Mares.. at 140lbsPosted September 18, 2013 6:30 pm
“YEAH I WAS ONE THE PEOPLE WHO PICK CANELO”
Oh, stop bragging! :)Posted September 18, 2013 5:59 pm
Ivan, how many times do you need to analyze the fight?
up with people
My fabrit punch in boxing is the upper cut. When you execute it is so good you can feel his brain turn to jello as the shock waves travl up from the jaw.One time I sent this guy to low earth orbit! His empty boots were left behiind. Iron Mike was the best in the modern age.A crying shame that he did not become president of the u.s.Posted September 18, 2013 5:37 pm
Q – Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras
PE- Canelo is a good fighter, just cause he lost doesnt mean he is a hype job. I like to see Danny ” lowblow ” Garcia against Floyd. When he loses to Floyd I want to hear you calling him a ” hyped ” fighter.Posted September 18, 2013 5:32 pm
YEAH I WAS ONE THE PEOPLE WHO PICK CANELOPosted September 18, 2013 4:48 pm
Floyd have nothing more to prove in the Welterweight/Lighterweight div. Floyd needs to move up in weight and challenge GGG, Trout, Ward and maybe Hopkins at a catchweight of 160, If Floyd could handle a big young 172 pounds Canelo with ease than he doesn’t belong in the Welterweight div anymore.Posted September 18, 2013 4:48 pm
Conclusion – Cinnabum was all hype and nothing special in any way..Posted September 18, 2013 4:35 pm