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mayweather 86

Indeed happy. There was a time when I had a lot if respect for hildalgo, but he hadhas become a bit if a whiney apologist these days still very knowledgeable but the excuses for everything is getting a little old

Posted September 27, 2013 6:37 pm 


Happyboy

Hilda is a whiner.

Posted September 26, 2013 12:21 pm 


Public Enemy

Hidalgo – Floyd went into that fight weighing 145lbs Canelo entered the Ring 165lbs where is this advantage for Floyd?? Do you feel Canelo would’ve done better if he was allowed to come into the fight weighing 172+lbs??? it was only 3 little pounds.. you lose more then that in a serious dump..

Posted September 25, 2013 12:58 pm 


Hidalgo

“Mayweather Punked the entire Mexican Nation.. as well as all the stateside Mexican Wannabees like Tumbo..”

With the help of a catchweight.

Posted September 25, 2013 9:13 am 


TARK

Mexico wasn’t punked… They got the fight for free..

America was punked.

Posted September 24, 2013 5:41 pm 


Public Enemy

Mayweather Punked the entire Mexican Nation.. as well as all the stateside Mexican Wannabees like Tumbo..

Posted September 24, 2013 10:39 am 


btrain

Lotta freakin suckas iut der dat fer sure …. buyin on de hype..bahahaha

Posted September 24, 2013 4:01 am 


btrain

Biggest waste of freakin money if ya ask me… borinweatha….bahahaha

Posted September 24, 2013 3:46 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Canelo had a lot of nervous energy against Trout, hopefully as he matures he will become more relaxed and make more of his shots count…

Posted September 23, 2013 12:26 pm 


TARK

Hidalgo.., “In my opinion, Canelo wasted a lot of useless energy in the Trout fight.”

He was pretty efficient. Gatti and Hatton wasted energy versus Floyd. Tyson wasted energy versus Douglas, Holyfield, and Lewis.

Posted September 23, 2013 11:31 am 


Hidalgo

“Hidalgo.., Alvarez was answering a lot of non-stop questions and sometimes you throw something out there just to satisfy somebody… I didn’t see him gassed. I saw a guy who was ahead. ”

Tark, I also saw a guy who was ahead. But Canelo also pooped himself out a bit because he was over-active defensively. He was damn near doing aerobics and needed to take a breather for a couple of rounds. In my opinion, he wasted a lot of useless energy in that fight.

No matter, he still won.

Posted September 23, 2013 12:31 am 


TARK

Pacquiao gets stopped.., It’s the reality of a boxer who like to trade punches..

An ATG fighter told me, “Never trade punches with anyone. Even when you think you can get away with it.. If a guy is a decent matchup for you, and you trade punches with him–it’s 50/50 you’re going to get KO’d if you are both going for the KO.. I’ve been in 99 professional fights. I fought guys who outweighed me by 40 pounds and was never stopped. I was never even been knocked down. That’s because I never traded punches with anyone … even in sparring.

It’s a lot of fun to mix.. That’s why people trade toe-to-toe … It’s stupid, but it’s fun.. Screwing hookers is fun too.. It’s stupid but it won’t get you knocked out.. So if you’re going to give in to a temptation, pick up a whore instead of trading punches.. It makes more sense.”

Posted September 23, 2013 12:24 am 


Rod

Is it possible that all of these pac is the greatest and unstoppable fighter not realize he’s been stopped 3 times.

Posted September 22, 2013 11:28 pm 


PEEJ

Fake PEEJ below. Find something better to do with your time loser.

Posted September 22, 2013 11:19 pm 


TARK

Right.., I Picked Chris to win.., But I was praying Seth could get past the first couple rounds and have an outside shot at winning.. He couldn’t..

Seth trains hard. He’s been fighting for more than 6 years.. He’s developed some weapons. He blows people away who can’t defend themselves well.. But he still defends and throws on a clinch like a rank novice.. Something is wrong. He’s not learning.

He needs a great coach — or he’s going to end his career with 5 KO losses in about 36 fights.

Posted September 22, 2013 10:53 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Anonymou$ – In all fairness, he picked Chris to win too, depends what threads you read, as always, covers all bases before the fights actually happens. Same ol story…

Posted September 22, 2013 9:10 pm 


robe

Boxing is still strong in the USA but it is a complete fallacy if you buy into the lies some self serving pricks on this site would prefer you did. Mexicans are NOT the only latinos in this country who also watch the sport and buy ppv’s. As one unit we are large….in fact the largest minority….but….if you think you can make the same impact on your own, you will be sadly mistaken.

Posted September 22, 2013 9:04 pm 


PEEJ

I’ll stick my whole fist up there next time, and I’ll shove it right up the elbow the next time after that if you like?

Posted September 22, 2013 7:20 pm 


PEEJ

Actually it was me VOICE OF REASON. I just get tired of debating with people like you who like to talk a lot but don’t listen.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:17 pm 


Anonymou$

Supreme Court is Sredmond btw

Posted September 22, 2013 7:12 pm 


Anonymou$

TARK also predicted that Mitchell wins.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:11 pm 


TARK

That is Supreme Court misquote… He’s an idiot… I always said Floyd should be favored and would win by decision — which is what happened.

I simply argued that there was no way Floyd was going to KO a fighter of Canelo’s caliber… It simply wasn’t going to happen like Sredmond and other predicted… I also told Herron that he was wrong for predicting a KO for Matthysse-Garcia and that that fight was going 12.

Posted September 22, 2013 6:44 pm 


TARK

@HARSH REALITY… You’re misquoting me “Cotto bloodied Floyd’s nose; Trout was unmarked against Cotto, and Canelo dominated Trout”

That is TOTAL BS LIES from you… I NEVER said Canel dominated Trout.. I had Trout beating Canelo by a point, 114-113. It was a close fight and I always said it was close.

What I pointed out to IDIOTS like SREDMOND — who predicted Floyd was going to “SMOKE, PAINT, SHRED, and KO CANELO” was that Cotto won rounds off Floyd and wasn’t in danger of being stopped.. Trout easily dominated Cotto by about the same score Floyd beat him, and without being bloodied, and that Canelo beat Trout by UD, knocked him down … and finished without a mark on him.

That argues that Floyd WOULD NOT KO Canelo — not that Canelo would win. Don’t be such a lame IDIOT!!!

I knew this fight was going to the cards and there would be no KO… I said the same for Matthysse-Garcia when everyone else predicted a KO… I always made Floyd the favorite to beat Canelo.

Posted September 22, 2013 6:20 pm 


te tumbo

the May and September fight-weekends was ushered-in by Chavez and DLH, which introduced the power of their respective fanbases. in fact, Mayweather’s first Cinco de Mayo weekend was v. DLH and he’s never looked back. otherwise, neither Ali, Holmes, leonard, Hagler, or Mike Tyson made a habit of fighting in those months never mind weekends. the tradition continues to feature Chicano-Mexicano fighters who appeal to the interest of the same fanbase that has been solely responsible for sustaining the sport in the U.S. Mayweather relies on this formula for his record-breaking numbers. anybody who denies or tries to qualify this scenario to any degree is in denial and downright delusional. there is no other explanation.

Posted September 22, 2013 5:56 pm 


VOICE OF REASON

Doubt the moron below is Peej. But my suggestion to the below poster is to go and blow yourself and whilst doing it, please stick a plastic bag over your head and butt plug up your ***.

Posted September 22, 2013 5:34 pm 


PEEJ

VOICE OF REASON, can I put my finger up your ass?

Posted September 22, 2013 5:29 pm 


VOICE OF REASON

Peej, what about this moron Amir Khan? They keep repackaging his *** even tho he is clearly a fragile:handle with care loser. He is Golden Boy and was presented to us as the new face of boxing. they are looking to cash out on his sorry ***.

Posted September 22, 2013 5:23 pm 


PEEJ

Well if he didn’t purchase the Ring magazine we may not have that magazine any more. I think Oscar did a good thing in purchasing it and letting it be. Now if things start being a little funny, then we have reason to question but until then I can understand looking at it in a certain way, but to say things have been changed to favor certain fighters is ridiculous at this point until proven other wise.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:42 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

HARSH REALITY has the beat. Be prepared to have Tard come back at you with his paranoid claims that you are actually me since we both see him for what he is. Good lookin out on Tard’s cover all bases fight predictions…

Posted September 22, 2013 4:06 pm 


Exiled Yank

Peej – I still hold the Ring Belt highly and regard it as the belt that deems the true champion. I just really struggle with the fact that it’s owned by a promoter. The policy for crowning champions seems the same as always, which is good. Like I said, the Ring Belt is the only championship I pay attention to. The other belts are just for decoration.

Posted September 22, 2013 3:44 pm 


PEEJ

Oscar may own the Ring but he has not changed any rules of the Ring Championship belt. There has been no proof to say that they have manipulated the ratings in any way. Heck they are pretty close to the new current rating that have come out by what ever boxing group that I can’t think of right now. Floyd can hold both Championships if he is willing to defend both. But if not then they will ask him to give the belt up and go back to which ever weight class he chooses and defend his Championship there.

Posted September 22, 2013 2:51 pm 


PEEJ

I gave Canelo 3 rounds and one of them was debatable. I only gave it to him because I was just gonna give him all the close rounds. Even the last round where Floyd was moving, he still landed the harder, cleaner blows.

Posted September 22, 2013 2:48 pm 


PEEJ

There is not point in doing that. May and September have always been the months to hold PPVs. Been like that for a while now. But if your saying Floyd isn’t pulling any fans in on those months then how come nobody else goes up against him? He pulled a mil for the Guerrero fight. That is pretty damn good considering Guerrero really doesn’t have much of a fan base.

Posted September 22, 2013 2:43 pm 


te tumbo

too many over-analyzed this bout, Period. it unfolded just as predicted: a boring, uneventful, albeit masterful boxing-pot-shotting performance by Mayweather over the young, hungry, but green lion. even Canelo’s puncher’s chance was quickly erased by Floyd’s size(?), speed, and indomitable chin and jaw. this combination sold the fight to Canelo’s fanbase willing to pray and pay for emerging and odds-defying greatness. in fact, i heard that 60%-70% of those who paid to attend this bout were Mexican nationals(?!), but instead of emerging greatness what we all got was the same ole-same ole from #1 P4P and undefeated Floyd Mayweather and what can possibly still be surprising about that?

Posted September 22, 2013 1:48 pm 


HARSH REALITY

Totally agree with Supreme Court below

TARK You are full of it!

Largo and I unmasked your game here on ESB and predicted that you will shamelessly claim good prediction no matter the result of Floyd # Canelo!
Yes you did mentioned Floyd was 8:5 favorite to win, but devoted 99% of your post developing, arguing, demonstrating how Canelo would beat Floyd, how different he was.
You were so moronic you used “ad noseum” the triple comparison: “Cotto bloodied Floyd’s nose; Trout was unmarked against Cotto, and Canelo dominated Trout”…You let ESB deduce Canelo would beat Floyd.

Post fight, as we predicted, you are bragging about Floyd’s victory.
You are DISHONEST!
You are MANIPULATIVE!

And let me predict something else about your behaviour: Canelo gone, you will find another fighter to “promote” here on esb; one who would “murder” Floyd.
And that fighter would be GGG…
And why are you doing this?
Because you hope to be right so you could brag about your boxing “knowledgeability”….

(Un opportuniste se cache en Tark…)

HARSH REALITY

Posted September 22, 2013 12:58 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Like him or not, Floyd has had great success in the sport. Although his style may be not all that exciting at times, he makes it look easy against these opponents who are supposed to destroy him. I thought at least Canelo would give him a challenge, but you don’t get rich betting against Floyd…

Posted September 22, 2013 12:02 pm 


Gus

C. J. Ross has taken much criticism for her scoring of the fight and deservedly. However a lot of criticism needs to be directed towards the Showtime announcers for only scoring one round for Canello. Without Question Canello won at least the last two rounds and two others. There were some even rounds and those apparently were given to MayweAther because the mindset of the Sowtime announcers was that if Canello didn’t clearly win the round than MayweAther, being Mayweather should get the round. Mayweather clearly won the fight but I many of the rounds were very close and Canello was not beaten as decisively as the ringside callers saw it.

Posted September 22, 2013 9:04 am 


Anonymous

FIGHT FANS USED TO LOOK UP TO THE GREAT FIGHTERS AND FIGHTS IN AMERICA,NOW ITS JUST PEDS CHEATS AND HYPE.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:51 am 


Exiled Yank

Smog – It’s all good. I’m just annoyed that these guys haven’t fought. Imagine Ali not fighting Frazier, or Morales not fighting Barrera… it’s freaking beyond me.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:17 am 


Exiled Yank

Pratt – FM can become undisputed in one of the classes, but not both. As it is, he will have to relinquish one of his WBC titles because they don’t allow one fighter to hold the belt in two classes. He is, however, the Ring champ, and as far as I know, they will let one man hold that championship in multiple divisions. At least they used to, but now that it is the De La Hoya Belt, that may be different. As much as DLH hates FM, he’ll probably strip him in both classes. He’s a bitter, bitter little man.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:05 am 


TARK

Floyd would have fought Pacquiao a long time ago if he agreed to terms… Pacquiao has agreed to all original terms and then some… If he did that 4 years sooner the fight would have been made a long time ago.

As it is… After he beats Rios the fight will definitely be made. Because Pac finally has agreed to reasonable terms at long last.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:02 am 


BoxingSmarts24

@Smog All that crying and complaining stop it! I can shut you down but I will keep it simple. pac got slept by Marquez and facing a guy coming off of a loss moving up in weight! While Floyd is breaking records…

Think about that for a second loser

Posted September 22, 2013 4:01 am 


Smog

No worries Exiled Yank. It’s all good. But I still stand by what said. There was never any need for Floyd to put obstacles in the way. It’s the fight everyone wanted to see and he’s the one who threw a spanner in the works preventing it from happening. He’s the one who instigated all that crap not Pac. He had no right to accuse him of being on steroids in the first place. Pac had never failed a test, who the hell did he think he is to start dictating terms snd bossing people about after throwing about baseless accusations and smearing Pac’s good name? I would’ve told him to go F himself after that if I was in Pac’s shoes.

Posted September 22, 2013 1:12 am 


Pratt

Well Floyd could do it. He already has 2 of the 4 belts in the Super Welter Class. He could go after the IBF and then the WBO and become ‘UNDISPUTED SUPER WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPION of the World.’ And on the way to the Undisputed ranking he may achieve the rank of Undisputed Billionaire of Boxing. So he should go for it.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:40 pm 


Pratt

Floyd needs to get busy and become ‘Undisputed’ Welter Weight Champ like King Klitschko is ‘Undisputed’ Heavy Weight Champ. When that happens there will be no arguments about the authenticity of the greatness of Floyd Mayweather. He will have a tough time cause JMM is about to bag Bradleys WBO Belt. And if you wankers do not think Wlad has ever been in with some tough guys, then you need to see some of Wlads early fights in the pre-Manny days when he was on the RISE TO POWER. He fought some real bad asses and Knocked their asses out. KTFO !!! Then he got careless with the Proud African and we all know the story after that one. But Wlad has been in with some really mean opponents. Check it out. He is not a weenie like some of you hater/wankers think he is. And I think now, and I say now, he is as tough as his brother is and was. And certainly stronger. Haye will tell you how strong he is, as Haye was on the floor all night to polish Wlads Mule. Hey Tark, speaking of flogging your mule, you are supposed to be in SF enjoying the ladies.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:29 pm 


Exiled Yank

typo – MP can throw from crazy angles.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:32 pm 


Exiled Yank

MP has everything to give FM a bad night: he’s a lefty with speed, power, and foot work, and unlike Canelo, FM can throw from carzy angles that he creates with his feet. On the other hand, FM is fast, has unmatched accuracy, creates angles with his feet, and while he lacks KO power like MP, he has loads of power and makes his opponents stop throwing. Thee guys are/were perfect for a legendary fight and neither one wants it because the other is so damn good.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:31 pm 


Exiled Yank

SMOG – I watched the interview and I now remember seeing it a year back. FM did say that stuff big as day. I didn’t deny it. What I’m saying is neither guy wants the fight to happen and at the end of the day it hurts their legacies and we fans are screwed. When put on the spot recently, MP begrudgingly said he’d fight FM if the fans demand it, but he was not happy about it at all. When asked later if he would fight FM after Rios, MP just laughed and flatly avoided the question. I’m saying they neither one want the fight to happen. As for Scoop, the guy is a joke in the boxing journalism. This is the same guy Mike Tyson threatened to rape.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:26 pm 


Q – Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras

Of course Floyd avoids Pacquioa. He fears speed and power.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:09 pm 


Bulawayo2

Golovkin doesn’t sell!
I guarantee you if Mayweather puts his 154lb title on the line against him it will sell. Probably a record seller, most boxing fans want to see “Money” flattened and the Kazakh is the man to do it.
Oh it will sell, there goes another excuse Floyd.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:08 pm 


TARK

Hidalgo.., Alvarez was answering a lot of non-stop questions and sometimes you throw something out there just to satisfy somebody… I didn’t see him gassed. I saw a guy who was ahead. He was making the other guy play catchup and taking as few risks as possible. He’s a boxer. He’s not a seek and destroy kind of fighter like Golovkin so he was happy to take the fight by a fairly wide decision on 2 cards.

When you’re in those kind of situations and your trainer says, “Why weren’t you working?” You don’t want to argue so you say, “I was a little tired. I wanted to save a little gas for the stretch in case I needed it, but I had a good lead so I’m not going to take unnecessary risks when I’m tired.” Whatever.

Posted September 21, 2013 7:36 pm 


Hecdog

SMOG, great information. As you said, Mayweather DUCKED Manny Pacquiao period. Enough excuses. Oscar fought Vargas on roids and beat him. Floyd missed the boat and will always be known as the fighter that DUCKED Manny Pacquiao.

Posted September 21, 2013 5:21 pm 


Smog

It’s a great article.

Floyd ducked Pac. Period. You can try and spin it any which way you want to, but at the end of the day Floyd ducked Pac.

He put up obstacles that never needed to exist and ones that not one of Pac’s other opponents put up.

I will respond when you can find me quotes from any of Pac’s other opponents to that effect and not before. The ball is in your court.

Now please continue spinning away, sir.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:38 pm 


Exiled Yank

No SMOG, I’m not intimidated by the article. My point is that Scoop is a joke in boxing writing and presenting his writing to support your own beliefs is not a wise choice.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:31 pm 


Exiled Yank

I posted my comment while you were posting yours. So I didn’t read your articles until after mine was up. That said, I quit reading your stuff years ago. I also notice that your “reporting” involves quite a lot of opinionated analysis. I’m not denying that he said it, I’m just saying I have never liked your presentation of “facts” and avoid your articles because they are far from the top caliber journalism you present them as.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:29 pm 


Smog

Weak comeback. It’s obviously not my article. But you’re obviously threatened by me posting it. Nice to know. BWAHAHAHA!!!

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee LMFAO.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:23 pm 


Smog

Ridiculous demands that no other fighter who fought Pac made.

Find me quotes like this from any of Pac’s other numerous opponents. The obstacles never needed to exist. Floyd put them up for a reason.

Mayweather admitted this to Bob Costas in an NBC show interview about why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. “I am in the game to win, not just inside the ring, but outside the ring,” stated Mayweather. “My health is more important than anything.”

Costas then countered with, “Are you implying there is something to fear in Manny Pacquiao?”

Floyd: “I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”

Earlier in the interview, Mayweather mentioned Muhammad Ali’s health. “With or without Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is okay. Floyd Mayweather fights for Floyd Mayweather. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather has to be happy and comfortable…Look at the Ali situation. Fans pushed him to get into fights at the end of his career that he didn’t want to get in…If Ali could trade it all in for his health, he would.”

(Note: Let me correct Floyd. Ali was not forced by fans to get in the ring with Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Trevor Berbick. Money, pride and a fearless belief in his skills were the motivation for Ali to take those fights.)

Floyd also said: “One shot can end your whole career. Boxing is a very deadly sport.”

Costas said Floyd has to fight Pacquiao, to see who is the best, to give the fans what they want and to pump up the sport with a much-needed big, exciting, Super Bowl event: “I come first. Self preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

Posted September 21, 2013 4:20 pm 


Exiled Yank

So SMOG is Scoop. There goes SMOG’s credibility.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:15 pm 


Exiled Yank

Both FM and MP have great records and either can be considered the best of this era. You guys nitpicking over who-beat-who-when-and-how is silly. My point is that they never faced each other and that annoys the crap out of me. FM was making ridiculous money demands and MP used fear of needles as an excuse. Bottom line, neither man wanted to fight the other and they both found ways to avoid the match. MP struggled against JMM 4 times and FM is a far better tactician than JMM. MP is a lefty with KO power, speed, and footwork – and unlike Canelo, MP can throw punches from odd angles and uses his feet to create those angles. Bottom line, these guys are afraid of one another.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:07 pm 


Smog

(This week Floyd Mayweather admitted to reporters in Las Vegas that he won’t fight Manny Pacquiao because of health concerns and again accused the Filippino of using PEDs without any evidence. This is the article I penned two months ago for BoxingInsider.com about Floyd admitting his fear and cowardice of Pacquiao.)

March 4th, 2012

By Scoop Malinowski

Now the truth has finally been confirmed by Floyd Mayweather himself: He’s afraid of getting pounded on like a punching bag by Manny Pacquiao.

Mayweather admitted this to Bob Costas in an NBC show interview about why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. “I am in the game to win, not just inside the ring, but outside the ring,” stated Mayweather. “My health is more important than anything.”

Costas then countered with, “Are you implying there is something to fear in Manny Pacquiao?”

Floyd: “I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”

Earlier in the interview, Mayweather mentioned Muhammad Ali’s health. “With or without Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is okay. Floyd Mayweather fights for Floyd Mayweather. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather has to be happy and comfortable…Look at the Ali situation. Fans pushed him to get into fights at the end of his career that he didn’t want to get in…If Ali could trade it all in for his health, he would.”

(Note: Let me correct Floyd. Ali was not forced by fans to get in the ring with Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Trevor Berbick. Money, pride and a fearless belief in his skills were the motivation for Ali to take those fights.)

Floyd also said: “One shot can end your whole career. Boxing is a very deadly sport.”

Costas said Floyd has to fight Pacquiao, to see who is the best, to give the fans what they want and to pump up the sport with a much-needed big, exciting, Super Bowl event: “I come first. Self preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”

There you go: “Self preservation.” So the reasons Mayweather gave us for two years of ducking and dodging Pacquiao – drug tests, fake retirements, Manny has to leave Arum and be his own boss, no 50-50 split, he doesn’t need Manny, it’s all Bob Arum’s fault, etc. – were indeed mere smokescreens, bluffs and lies. Cleverly but dishonestly used to cover up the real secret truth – Mayweather fears for his health because he knows Pacquiao would simply beat the hell out of him.

Mayweather knows his skills that pay the bills wouldn’t work against Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather does not have the confidence that his all-time great defensive skills will be able to control and subdue Pacquiao and maintain his unbeaten record and his good health, against the relentless assualts that Manny Pacquiao would unleash on him.

This surprising admission by Mayweather now puts heavy pressure on HBO. The sport of boxing is supposed to be about the best gladiators testing their courage and talents against the best of the best. Now HBO must fully recognize, if they paid attention to what Floyd Mayweather told NBC’s Bob Costas, that Floyd Mayweather is a manufactured fraud, a coward who is unworthy of being marketed and promoted as a premium sports attraction. (Vitali Klitschko said he would rather die than give Dereck Chisora anything.) Mayweather is a pretender who would be better suited for the world of professional wrestling.

It would be counterproductive for the most powerful television network in American boxing to promote and market, with maximum resources, a cowardly fraud who doesn’t care about the sport or it’s fans, only about perserving his own career with safe, low-risk, set up opponents.

“I’m in a great position, a very lucrative position,” Mayweather told Costas, who was pressuring him to accept the 50-50 split with Pacquiao. “I’m NOT giving up the split. I can’t. I can’t afford to.”

Of course he can’t and won’t. Mayweather and his advisor Al Haymon manipulate HBO and the public like subordinates. With HBO’s promotional machine at their beck and call, Mayweather and Haymon think they can keep on going for as long as they wish, making easy money safe “fights” via their stooges at HBO and most of the American media.

Shouldn’t the vast resources of HBO be better served to be used to invest in true, real, fearless champions like the Klitschkos, Bute, Ward, Martinez, Doniare, Rigondeaux, Proksa, Dawson, Bradley, Peterson, etc. in order to retain the credibility and honor of the noble sport? Shouldn’t HBO be expected to deliver to sports fans the best of the best versus the best, not rewarding cowardly frauds who are afraid of getting beaten up to the point of losing their health, while trumpeting them as heroic champions?

Surely, Thomas Hauser will be able to consult HBO to wake up and adhere to this simple basic premise won’t he? Or are the powers that be at HBO so wrapped around the fingers of Haymon and Mayweather that the Mayweather fraud show will go on for another five or ten years?

If HBO continues to knowingly and willingly support a cowardly fraud like Mayweather, how many other outrageous errors in judgement can we expect to see down the road by the powers that be at HBO and what will be the inevitable consequences on our great sport which has so diminished and declined in popularity and credibility over the last 10-15 years?

Don’t forget, Mayweather already told us that he doesn’t love boxing anymore like he used to because “it’s not real anymore.”

With that in mind, can we really expect Mayweather vs. Cotto to be fought at full intensity on May 5, since Mayweather said his “self preservation” is top priority? If Mayweather is, as he says, so concerned about his health, which is “more important than anything”, how do we know for sure he and Cotto won’t make one of those Teddy Atlas silent agreements? Like Floyd told us at Fight hype, “Boxing isn’t real anymore.”

I mean, how much longer can this great deception be allowed to contaminate the sport of boxing?

And you have to wonder if, after this Mayweather revelation to Costas, the powers that be at HBO continue to permit Mayweather’s advisor Al Haymon to use and manipulate the network like his own personal broadcasting service, like he has done for the last five years with Mayweather, Broner, Arreola, Williams, Jacobs, Berto, Mitchell, etc. How many more super fights will be canceled because one fighter and his advisor fear coming out on the loser’s end, which would destroy their “great position” and leverage?

We know now Floyd Mayeather is afraid for his health and well being and that’s why he won’t ever fight Manny Pacquiao. He told this to Bob Costas on national TV. Now the chips must fall where they may.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:04 pm 


Smog

LAS VEGAS — Floyd Mayweather Jr. delivered quite a performance Tuesday and it had nothing to do with his boxing skills.

A question sparked a 10-minute speech from Mayweather, regarding the tireless topic of why he and fellow pound-for-pound great Manny Pacquiao have not come to terms on a potential multimillion dollar fight.

In a response that eventually drew applause from his entourage, Mayweather once again said it is “basic common sense” that Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs and getting in the ring with him would be a risk to his future health.

“Health is more important than anything,” Mayweather said. “Because guess what? When my career is over, if I’m hurt because of something that has happened in a fight, I can’t come to you and say, ‘I need (money).’ ”

Mayweather’s hardest point came when he admitted that he believes the boxing world doesn’t even care if Pacquiao is using or not — that the desire to see the two fight now surpasses any concern over his safety.

“People say, ‘We don’t give a f— if he’s taking or not; we just want to see the fight. We don’t give a f— about your health and we don’t give a f— about your family.’ ” Mayweather said.

“I care about my family. I love my family. They’re going to be there when no one else is there. When my career is over, you’re all going to move on to the next one.”

Mayweather has pointed to Pacquiao’s rise through weight classes and the transfer of his power through them as evidence of steroid use. Since 2008, Pacquiao has won titles in five weight divisions and recorded four knockouts in nine fights.

“It took me years to get to here — years,” Mayweather said. “I’m going up in weight but I’m not walking through no damn fighters. (Pacquiao) is 106; now he decides to walk through (Miguel) Cotto? Cotto can’t knock down (Shane) Mosley, but can he?”

Posted September 21, 2013 4:02 pm 


Smog

Floyd Mayweather is happy to admit his undefeated record has been partly built on handpicking opponents who didn’t always provide the toughest fights but did help him become the world’s best paid athlete.

“Sometimes they say, ‘Well, Floyd Mayweather’s opponents was handpicked.’ That’s a good thing,” Mayweather said in a conference call to promote Saturday’s eagerly-awaited world title fight against Mexico’s WBC and WBA super welterweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez.

“I commend my team … when I sit back and I think about my career, I say ‘you know what? I had a cool career. I didn’t take any punishment’.

“If they say these guys were handpicked, they was handpicked to make $40 and $50 and $60 million, then you know what? Keep handpicking them. If they’re going to keep paying, keep handpicking them.”

Mayweather, who Forbes magazine lists as the world’s highest paid athlete, has been criticised for dodging a potential mega fight with Filipino superstar Manny Pacquiao.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:58 pm 


Smog

Morales, Barrera, Marquez>>>> anything on Floyd’s resume (sham of a fight against Marquez doesn’t count). Add in beating Cotto, Hatton, DLH far more impressively (and those are arguably three of Floyd’s top five opponents). Add in beating Margarito who Floyd never wanted a piece of. Pac easily has the greater resume. Add in Floyd ducked Pac for years. Add in that Floyd tested positive three times for illegal PEDs, Pac never did. Add in Floyd has never even fought a great fighter who was in their prime. Add in Floyd clearly lost to Castillo when he was in his prime. Pac>>>>>Floyd. It’s irrefutable.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:47 pm 


Rem

No doubt Floyd is at the top of the sport right now and Pacs dominance has been put to a stop but a fading star na the anticipation for his return has went from a simmer to boiling right now. But historically it will be tough for Floyd or anyone to match achievements and dare say to themselves “i was better”. And Pac ain’t done there’s more hardware out there to collect.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:37 pm 


Hidalgo

“Alvarez didn’t gas against Trout… ”

Actually Tark, he did, and Alvarez said so himself. Go to youtube.com and type “Canelo says inactivity was reason for tiring against Trout.” Watch that video, you’ll hear Alvarez say he took a couple of rounds off and that he got tired because he hadn’t fought in nine months.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:26 pm 


Hidalgo

“Hidalgo, you did not say that the venom going her way was overdone?” No, I didn’t, SRedmond. I said a lot of people were quick to criticize her even though they really didn’t know anything bout her judging history.

“Soooo you ADMIT her scores were ridiculous and that she is incompetent and needs to go???” I have always said that Ross’ decision was ridiculous. I’ve never, prior to now, said whether she needs to go or stay. I have said in at least one other post that I did not necessarily think the fight was fixed and that she was incompetent. I haven’t changed my mind or words about anything.

“Did you NOT try to disrespect Bayless and say he’s too lenient??” LMAO! “Disrespect” him? Is there a crown or halo on his head? Is there a law against speaking out against him? Get real. “Disrespect” is what I dish out to and about you on a daily basis.

“Your support of Ross was weak and disrespect of Bayless pegs you as A BUM…”

Again, please prove that I have supported Ross in any way. And again, LMAO about Bayless! When did he become faultless, godly, and exalted? Oh wait, I know. You said so.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:06 pm 


TARK

Alvarez didn’t gas against Trout… He had enough energy to step up the action if needed.. He looked great at the weigh-in.. You can still see it on YouTube.. Contrast how he looked with how he looked for the Floyd weigh-in.. He looked healthy and vibrant… He just fought a smart fight and made Trout take the lead because he was ahead.

He didn’t look good vs Floyd.. He looked parched at the weigh-in.. He couldn’d rehydrate nearly as many pounds as he did for Trout. That means they messed up the whole weight making process and maybe started it too early and aggressively.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Pratt, Wlad Klis barely fights World Class boxers anymore Wach, Pianeta, a 41 year I’d Thompson he had already knocked out and 40 year old Mormeck… Wlads a now stable Champ and he’s been consistent but by the time he had 45 bouts like Mayweather he had been knocked out 3x by nobodies… He was BADLY UPSET in his 40th and 45th contest … Mayweather has been lineal Champ in 4 weight classes and he has NEVER lost… Wlads not a Floyd Mayweather his foes are getting weaker and weaker… Povetkins a name fighter, but his luster has worn off struggling with Huck and beating undeserving challengers like Boswell and Rahman..:

Posted September 21, 2013 2:54 pm 


Hidalgo

“When you’re cornered, you flee … and that’s what she did.”

Doesn’t really matter Tark. She’s not even the tip of the corrupt iceberg. There’s too many other judges and referees that won’t quit or even admit they do anything wrong. Besides that, corruption is and has been embedded in boxing for it’s entire history–kind of like the American political system.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Did you NOT try to disrespect Bayless and say he’s too lenient?? AGAIN passing blame of a fighters loss… Your support of Ross was weak and disrespect of Bayless pegs you as A BUM…

Posted September 21, 2013 2:44 pm 


TARK

Anonymou$.., You’re a liar… I NEVER said Canelo dominated Trout.. Never did I ever say that.. I said he landed the harder and more effective punches.. That’s all..

I scored the Alvarez-Trout fight 114-113 for Trout.. But that is due to the scoring system and how the rounds broke down. Trout was more aggressive and landed more punches. Alvarez was a better defender and better ring general. You could score that fight either way, but Alvarez definitely landed the harder, more effective punches. It wasn’t a 118-110 score like Stanley Chritoduolou had it.

Part of my argument for why Floyd wouldn’t shred, batter, paint, smoke, and KO Canelo was the Floyd.. Cotto.. Trout.. Alvarez interaction.. I said Floyd would win a close decision.. The score as a MD but the fight was NOT as close as the decision.. So sue me.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:43 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, you did not say that the venom going her way was overdone? Think before you answer!!! Soooo you ADMIT her scores were ridiculous and that she is incompetent and needs to go??? This would be a reversal which I will relish You DOG!

Posted September 21, 2013 2:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, the dominant thinking is that Canelo COASTED and GASSED as the fight progressed against Trout, once he knew the judges had him up 90 points he was conservative..Saul did NOT fight a high activity bout with Trout GTFOH… As usual you are trying to rule on his condition in the Mayweather bout by pretending he was a whirling dervish against Trout… Do you think everyone’s a fool… Every BUM poster starts pretending they know what Alvarez looks like every day from their TV’s and declares him “dried out”… Kill that Noise the Boy lost to s superior boxer he had plenty of advantages over…ie 15 pounds of mass and 13 years…. If Floyd had that over ANY boxer his detractors would go nuts…

Posted September 21, 2013 2:38 pm 


Hidalgo

BTW, SRedmond, please quote me where I “championed” CJ Ross. I didn’t defend or support her at all. You just want it to be that way so you have something to whine about.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:33 pm 


TARK

I thought it was interesting that CJ Ross quit judging abruptly — rather than be grilled about her scorecard and how she arrived at her scores round by round. She didn’t want to answer the grillings.

She knew there were no credible explanations for her scores except, “I blew it.” Duane Ford already used that excuse following the first Hopkins-Taylor fight… CJ Ross couldn’t use it because she had already said, “I stand by my scorecard.. The fight was a draw!”

When you’re cornered, you flee … and that’s what she did.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:32 pm 


Anonymou$

WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!

Supreme Court

TARK You are full of it!

Largo and I unmasked your game here on ESB and predicted that you will shamelessly claim good prediction no matter the result of Floyd # Canelo!
Yes you did mentioned Floyd was 8:5 favorite to win, but devoted 99% of your post developing, arguing, demonstrating how Canelo would beat Floyd, how different he was.
You were so moronic you used “ad noseum” the triple comparison: “Cotto bloodied Floyd’s nose; Trout was unmarked against Cotto, and Canelo dominated Trout”…You let ESB deduce Canelo would beat Floyd.

Post fight, as we predicted, you are bragging about Floyd’s victory.
You are DISHONEST!
You are MANIPULATIVE!

And let me predict something else about your behaviour: Canelo gone, you will find another fighter to “promote” here on esb; one who would “murder” Floyd.
And that fighter would be GGG…
And why are you doing this?
Because you hope to be right so you could brag about your boxing “knowledgeability”….

(Un opportuniste se cache en Tark…)

Posted September 21, 2013 2:31 pm 


Pratt

And guess who is going to win another of Floyds wanna be belts. JMM is going to take the WBO Welter Belt from Bradley. FLoyd better get busy and become undisputed in my eyes!!!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 2:30 pm 


Pratt

Wladimir Klitschko is a greater fighter and Champion than Floyd Mayweather. Here is why:
Wladimir is the Undisputed Heavy Weight Champ of the World. He owns all the belts but his brothers. Mayweather is only the WBC Welter Weight Champ of the World. He needs to become Undisputed Welter Weight Champ and get all the belts for more credibility. That is a statistical fact than cannot be argued, and is why Wladimir is a greater fighter than Floyd. Then you can always toss in the KO percentage factor and Wlads factor wins that category also.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Rem, Floyd’s the consensus #1 fighter in the world he’s on top of the division Manny fess knocked out in and the one above him…’you want to discuss titles which one does Pacquiao have NOW? Besides being on the receiving end of the KO of the Year??? Mannys Great but Floyds the ONLY guy on top……I hope PAC Man was NOT destroyed by an older version of Marquez who now considers PAC “Old Business”

Posted September 21, 2013 2:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Rem, face it Pacquiaos dominance has been ended as a younger boxer than Floyd Mayweather by a 39 year old fighter… Mayweather has never known defeat and certainly not even close at the hands of a Marquez… As for ODH and Hatton who beat them first?? Floyd took Hattons 0 and made him eat a turnbuckle Cotto was Mannys best WW win… But where is the Pacquiao star NOW? Michael Katsidis did better with Marquez than Manny did 4th time, Juan Diaz did better second time than Manny did 4th time… Floyd is currently the WW and Unified JR MW Champion… What’s Pacquiao? Living off old Glory whereas Mayweather keeps churning out fresh accomplishments…It’s Floyd’s time and ALL numbers support that he has more 00000000′s than Manny in every department most importantly the loss column…PAC Man stopped 3x Mayweather 0000000

Posted September 21, 2013 2:16 pm 


Hidalgo

“ESB Fool “Hidalgo” has spoken out against Kenny Bayless who is VERY well respected yet this same contrarian has Championed disgraced judge CJ Ross and felt that people were too hard on her? ”

SRedmond, I’d really like to give you a thoughtful sincere response but for some reason all I can do is fart. In your direction.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:16 pm 


Rem

Lol in boxing

Posted September 21, 2013 2:00 pm 


Rem

“My accomplishments compared to his on boxing ha ha”.
-Manny Pacquiao.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:59 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., You NEVER heard me use the “He abandoned the jab” excuse after De La Hoya lost to Mayweather… I was the 1st guy to point out that De La Hoya threw MORE jabs in the 2nd half of the fight than the 1st half when Oscar fans started making that excuse.

When you talk about excuses I don’t make them. There are only facts that helped to contribute to a result I correctly predicted. I predicted the outside score for Mayweather-Canelo would be 116-112 Floyd, and was a round off. Before the weigh-in I thought Canelo would produce a lot more energy and activity than he did. I noted he looked bad at the weigh-in.

Saul fought hard against Trout. He would have fought much harder if he HAD TO but he was a mile ahead on the scorecards. He didn’t fight harder against Floyd because he had no energy. He had to fight a lot harder but he couldn’t do it. You have no idea what being weight drained looks like. I do, because I’ve observed it a hundred times.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:51 pm 


Rem

SRed get real man 10 tittles and fighter of Floyds prime decade Floyd would have to win a lhw tittle to reach Pacs stratosphere. Pac has 2 wins over Marquez no matter what anyones opinion is and Pac toyed with Cotto and Hatton like Floyd did Marquez. Pacs accomplishments can have him labeled the G.O.A.T. These are all indisputable fact not opinion If Floyd ever grows some balls and wants to come take these accolades Pac would love for him to try until then Floyd needs alot more hardware to enter Pacs realm. And stop trying to belittle 3G with Martinez inactive he is the undisputed best mw in the world if Floyd wants to best Pac without fighting him have fun fighting the likes of 3G.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:48 pm 


SREDMOND

The fans that are unhappy want drama ie a fight where Floyd really struggles or goes life and death… Well he’s just too good for that! Rocky movies are for Rocky we have punching bags like Rios and Alvarado to supply those bouts … Mayweather is not much of a KO threat at 154 that’s another reason why he belongs at 147… You guys wanna supply 160 pounders who are used to getting hit by much bigger punchers… And when FMJ predictably dances circles around them we will hear complaints…

Posted September 21, 2013 1:43 pm 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

It might have set the record, but that doesn’t mean it was a good fight. Floyd dominated so much that one could… and many have… that he should’ve hurt Alvarez more or even taken him out. Regardless of that Floyd boxed this kids ears off so bad that all it does is make the fans feel robbed and a victim of a hype job. Good luck getting the fans to buy the next one… especially if it’s against the smaller Danny Garcia. No thanks.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:36 pm 


Exiled Yank

Sredmond – Yes, FM did win a belt, but not the division championship. I know FM won’t drop in weight, but winning the the legitimate championships from 140 up to 154 and reigning at the same time is a pretty amazing feat. But i know it won’t happen. And like you said, there’s no reason it should.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:12 pm 


SREDMOND

ESB Fool “Hidalgo” has spoken out against Kenny Bayless who is VERY well respected yet this same contrarian has Championed disgraced judge CJ Ross and felt that people were too hard on her? How biased can you be??? Ross is DONE at the Top levels of boxing she ran away amidst scandal based on horrid scoring in 2 high profile fights… Bayless is only under attack by a PIG like this ESB poster who probably hates the cameraman for photographing Mayweather punching Canelo in the grill… Wonder when he will join PE and say that the “shoulder roll should be banned in boxing” LMAO…

Posted September 21, 2013 1:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos resume is awesome but his controversial wins and KO loss to Marquez have dimmed his star…He was flattened by a fighter pushing 40 years old and who has never yet booked a win against a WW… Floyd just took out a BIGGER, YOUNGER Champion spotting him 15 pounds.. Add to that Mayweathers clinical dismantling of Marquez and its hard to see Manny as superior to Floyd Mayweather… A loss to Rios and even diehards would have to Kill themselves..

Posted September 21, 2013 1:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd’s the Boss why the hell would he drop down to 140? There is no parity between Garcia and Mayweather if he wants the shot he travels North that’s not even a realistic discussion…Mayweather won a belt at 140 YEARS ago Garcia can pursue Greatness the way Floyd did, take your opportunities when presented…When ODH wanted a fight at 154 Floyd stepped up and did it…

Posted September 21, 2013 12:59 pm 


Exiled Yank

Okay, this is the fourth time I’ve tried to post this. Hopefully ESB will stop being stupid and actually let this post. MP is the obvious choice, but they will never fight. They both are richer than we can dream of and they did it without facing the toughest test of their careers. The only people that lose out are the fans because we truly do not know who the best fighter of this era is/was. FM claims he’s the best by default because MP lost his last bout. MP doesn’t claim to be the best, but his resume makes a solid claim for him (as does FM’s). They needed to fight four years ago, so I guess it doesn’t matter much now.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:22 pm 


Exiled Yank

Anonymous – who has that type of speed? The fastest fighters he ever faced were Corley and Judah and both guys gave him problems. That kind of speed is rare. Even in boxing.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:10 pm 


Hecdog

DELK1 my friend, you had me laughing. Some people really are afraid of needles and I’m one of them. Some people fear heights. There’s a variety of phobias. Manny does want all testing after hearing so many people making accusations, and seeing many athletes and boxer being exposed. Ped Man Marquez was the final straw. I imagine Manny had to really struggle with the fear of needles, and he fought a brave war and finally is to the point that he will do the testing because he wants his fans and the world to know he’s always been clean, which is admirable. I knew one guy that won’t get on a plane for a million dollars. These kinds of things do happen. Great to see Manny Pacquiao win the fight within the fight.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:04 pm 


Hecdog

TJ my friend, thanks for those nice words. I have not read the book, but I’ll definitely look into it and find it. And maybe one day, I’ll think about it. I guess when your passionate about things, you sometimes tend to look at more than just the skills of a fighter but the person as a whole. Manny Pacquiao has so many interesting and admiral qualities. I’ll never understand why so many people dislike him. Oh well, t

Posted September 21, 2013 11:55 am 


Anonymous

He needs to fight someone with a lot of speed.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:49 am 


Exiled Yank

Loads of people were saying Canelo would KO FM and didn’t care that he would out-weigh him 15 pounds. FM took the guy to school and now FM needs to move to MW for a real challenge? Come on guys, he’s already beating the best at 147 and 154 at the same time. With such a limited mental capacity you people are dealing with, why shouldn’t he just jump on up to HW where he can finally face a real challenge? Pathetic. FM is not MW, he barely a SWW. Are you guys happy that Tito, DLH, PW, WW all went to MW? Their careers were ended there. Guys that are natural WWs or SWWs should not have to go to MW just to make stupid “fans” happy. So I don;t think FM or MP should have to fight at MW at all.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:43 am 


Exiled Yank

I would like to see FM drop to 140 and take on Garcia in his natural division. It won’t happen, but it would awesome if he did. Garcia loses, but a least he loses in his division and people won’t fuss about moving up like they did with RH and JMM.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:34 am 


Anonymous

DO ANY OF YOU REMEMBER,WHEN A GREAT FIGHTER WAS IN A GREAT FIGHT.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:09 am 


SREDMOND

A DOG like Hidalgo wants to sell the notion that Canelo might have prevailed if he was just a little more than 15 pounds heavier the night if the fight or if some fictional ref had been in Canelos pocket…There is ALWAYS an excuse from this poster when a Mayweather opponent gets outboxed… FEW in history can deal with his technical skills yet buffoons act like 2 less leaks in the bucket and the results would change… Such is the fantasy of Dog posters like this, they spend more time peddling excuses than discussing obvious results… Canelo looked fine, he’s just NOT Floyd Mayweather…

Posted September 21, 2013 9:52 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, Bears, Squared Circle and others are under siege some of Mayweathers most vocal critics are now bowing down and acknowledging his obvious brilliance in the ring… Canelo was supposed to be able to bring some drama and perhaps topple the Older Man but instead it was shown that Floyd Maweather can make easy work of anyone when on his A Game… Canelos HUGE advantages in Youth, Size and Power meant nothing when faced with a superior tactician…There will always be diehard fascists who will blame Floyds success on external factors but these dogs have paid him handsomely and many are throwing up their hands in resignation that he can be beat… We have seen the Great Pacquiao mortally wounded and now fighting to regain respect lost BUT FMJ’s Record remains as pristine as it was 17 years ago…

Posted September 21, 2013 9:45 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, AGAIN you are bailing in another fighter you Championed you did the SAME thing with Victor Ortiz “describing the Terry Norris Ray Leonard scenario”… Then when they lose you discuss trainers, and catch weights when the truth is that Mayweathers brilliance is not something ANYONE has been able to prepare for… We have heard and seen it all YOUNGER, OLDER, PRESSURE, BOXER, BRAWLER, OSCAR SAYING “I ABANDONED MY JAB” HOMOS LIKE HIDALGO “THE WEIGHT, THE REF” HIDALGO LIKELY THINKS ORTOZ DESERVED 2 POINTS ADDED TO HIS SCORE FOR BUTTING Mayweather… At the end of the day if a decaying Internet jockey like you had the answer for Floyd you would not be on here sharing it… You’d be training a fighter to beat him…

Posted September 21, 2013 9:28 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, Kenny Bayless is WIDELY considered one of the best refs in boxing he’s KNOWN for being stern and keeping control of the action… He is FAR from lenient, you blame Corte for guys losing to Mayweather, you blame Bayless for them losing to Mayweather… Now the discussion shifts to MW GGG and you want a “Special GGG friendly ref in the ring” AGAIN more of your ultra transparent anti-Mayweather bias LOL!!! Yes Floyd is an OLD MAN compared to Canelo Alvarez who is 13 years his Jr… Floyd still retains more than enough of his skills to get rid of that kid but chronology is chronology..!!! Bernard Hopkins is OLD period unless I missed something and 48 became the new 28?? He is literally the oldest guy to win a Championship in the sports history soooooo YESSSSSSS you IDIOT he’s old…. Face it Refs, Weights etc have not been deciding Floyds contests for 17 years its his SKILLS AND SPEED… Also feeding off the insane jealousy and sad ENVY of spineless Creeps like yourself has continued his uninterrupted march towards boxing immortalty..! If you can put off your suicide for 4 more contests you might be able to enjoy some emotional comfort when he retires… If not I encourage you to find the tallest building and JUMP, please have one of your family videotape and put on YouTube I would love to verify your DOA…. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted September 21, 2013 9:21 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, Canelo looked fine his stamina was better than the Trout fight you guys says the SAME thing every fight “he looked dried out” while watching your TV as if you can tell the difference between how Canelo looks on the scale at 153.5 and 152…. I’m sure once his next right is on the way he will begin with the excuses but Canelo has simply alluded to Floyds speed and technical brilliance… “Being drained” has become boxings favorite NEW excuse…. This is one of the reasons all this GGG talk MUST be dismissed! We have whiners like you crying about a 23 year old dropping 1.5 pounds yet guys want this MW to drop 7 pounds? He loses and we will NEVER hear the end of it….Hidalgo you have an excuse in place for EVERY Mayweather contest you want GGG to drop 7 pounds and you want a ref of your choosing because Floyd might be too physical with a MW Fighter?? Damn dude you’re like a BROKEN record fortunately we don’t use records anymore…

Posted September 21, 2013 9:08 am 


TJ

HECDOG

GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU…. I seriusly think you should consider writing one, from a fan’s perspective… You have a very good literary style which is far more interesting than some of the books I’ve read on boxing.

Have you read the book ‘PacMan: Behind the Scenes with Manny Pacquiao–the Greatest Pound-for-Pound Fighter in the World’ by Gary Andrew Poole?

It’s a good book, but a true fan like yourself could do better…

Something f or you to think about, perhaps?

Posted September 21, 2013 7:41 am 


murderman

@sc – there is a reason why triple g is avoided like the pleague! Dude in his own weight class dont want it w him. I think triple will k.o. floyd and im a floyd fan. Triple g punches like a cruiserweight! As far as pac he must destroy rios to get his swag back! Thats why rios was cherry picked. Floyd will prob fight garcia , khan, or cotto next at 147 and vacate 154. If he stays at 154 he bet not fight triple g or thats a possible k.o. loss!

Posted September 21, 2013 2:40 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

murderman: Sorry for the delay, I was extremely busy today and didn’t have my mobile device with me.

What I meant to say was: “The FMJ vs. Pac issue is a whole different discussion, but FMJ just released a statement to the media a few weeks ago saying he’ll NEVER fight PacMan. Why would he say that when EVERYTHING (money, testing demands, etc) can be re-neogiated at this point?”

You could be right that there may still be a FMJ vs. Pac fight, but I don’t think it will happen if Pac beats Rios in impression fashion. I know Pac still wants a rematch with both Bradley and JMM, so we’ll have to see if he gets one of those rematches f he beats Rios. I agree that Maravilla is washed-up and would get beat by both 3G and FMJ at this point. 3G is the best MW in the world, hand down.

I’m not yet convinced that FMJ is gonna vacate anytime soon, and am not convinced that he would lose to 3G because he has a slight speed advantage. That’s why I want to see this fight so badly!!! Don’t you want to see the BEST fight the very BEST? And that’s FMJ vs. 3G at 154lbs!
C’mon man… you know you want to see if FMJ can use his speed and footwork to outbox 3G, don’t you? Why not? That fight would be HUGE!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 2:29 am 


murderman

@sc – i can respect that! Next time get at me sooner partner! Lol. On the real mark my words there will be a may vs pac fight! Y? Hell both guys are running out of options. They need each other. We both know floyd is going to vacate n go back to 147. Triple g would be too much for floyd! But he would beat sergio. Sergio is wash up n trying to get 1 last big payday from may or cotto.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:27 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

murderman: Like I said before amigo, we are gonna to have to agree to disagree when it comes to FMJ. What a lot of fans don’t realize or admit to is that FMJ stepped up in weight-class when he beat Canelo. He is is now the lineal, Ring Jr. MW (154lbs) Champion of the World.

And by the official rules of boxing, that means he must defend those 3 MAJOR 154lbs titles vs. the very BEST in the world who can make weight at 154lbs. 3G is a small MW and can easily make 154lbs, so FMJ needs to defend his new titles and accept 3G’s challenge or VACATE his 154lbs straps.

“Would u ask Pac to fight Canelo?” If Pac was the lineal, Ring Champion at WW and Canelo was undefeated and could make weight at 147lbs, then I’d definitely argue that Pac should man-up and fight Canelo. Will I ever expect FMJ to fight Ward??? Of course not! But if Ward can make weight to fight 3G at 160lbs, then I’m all for it.

Why the FMJ is a whole different discussion, but FMJ just released a statement to the media a few weeks saying that he’ll NEVER fight PacMan.
Why would he say that when EVERYTHING (money, testing demands, etc) can be re-neogiated at this point???

Posted September 21, 2013 1:01 am 


Delk1

HecDog, stop it your killing me. LMBO! Hecdog said, Manny receives the love, respect, admiration, and honor of fans and fighters all over the world. He is the essence of a real fighter.

He is the essence of a real CHEATER. He is a liar. Why did he tell his beloved fans such as yourself that he was scared of needles and that they made him weak, Yet NOW all of a sudden He is requesting fighters to take the SAME test that he REFUSE to take for his FANS. Pac has a ways to get back revelant again. HE IS FIGHTING OTHER fighter coming off a LOST. WOW! HecDOG I feel sorry for you. LOL

Posted September 21, 2013 12:17 am 


Hidaglo

“Hidalgo, you still complaining about Mayweather being physical in the ring with a MW?? What a LOSER Canelo should have been able to handle that old man but with his 15 pounds of mass but alas NOOOOOOOOO Money’s too Good…now you need a special ref for hour fantasy fight with this MW nobody who cannot even take over his own division… Sad man your one of the worst whiners on this site…”

I didn’t complain about Mayweather being “physical” in the ring. I just described what he does and he does do it.

Canelo is not a middleweight. He’s been fighting at jr. middleweight for a long time.

Floyd is not an old man. You look for every little step you can to build up your buttbuddy. Hopkins is an old man.

No special ref needed. Just a good ref. who does his job like he’s supposed to. Kenny Bayless is too lenient.

Well you got me beat SRedmond. YOU are the worst whner on this site, bar none. You sqawk more than a fat old hen being chased around the chicken coop by a fox.

Sucks to be you.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:14 am 


Delk1

TARK lll said I think they did a really poor job compared to the Floyd team.

I agree!!

Posted September 21, 2013 12:01 am 


TARK

Sredmond you’re an idiot… I’m not Bears… I did NOT pick Canelo to win.. I picked Floyd the moment the fight was made and never changed my opinion at any time.

For people like YOU, who said Canelo was another Ricky Hatton or Victor Ortiz.. You said Floyd would “Shred.. Paint.. Smoke.. and KO Canelo” I laid into you as hard as I laid into people on the other extreme — who thought Canelo was going to knock Floyd out.

I always said the fight was going the distance and merely pointed why Floyd was not going to stop Canelo or give him a monster beating. The catch-weight didn’t change the result.. It may have changed the margin by which Floyd won by a round or so.. Leonard Ellerbe was right about Canelo’s team putting him at a disadvantage.. I think they did a really poor job compared to the Floyd team.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:59 pm 


Delk1

REPOST

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I came across this interesting read about TEXAS AM Quarterback. Thought you might find this interesting. Here is a little pieces of it.

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I suppose these people have their own reasons. Lots of us crave law and order and the tamping down of individuality. We all bring our values to sports, and for conservative fans there’s a “right way” and a “wrong way” to play football. And Johnny Manziel plays “the wrong way.” The subtext here is clear: He’s too uppity and needs to be shown his place by a conservative society.

Floyd Mayweather has made hundreds of millions of dollars by antagonizing this audience, a massive segment of the American sporting public. These sports fans hate Mayweather so much that they might just make Mayweather a billionaire by hoping for him to lose. They’ve been rooting for another boxer, it doesn’t matter who, to put Mayweather in his place for nearly a generation now.

Mayweather’s “place” is the bank, where he’s gleefully cashing these haters’ checks, making so much money he can’t even spend it all. Manziel isn’t cashing many of his own checks yet, but he’s making an awful lot of money for everyone basking in the penumbra of Manziel’s talents. CBS, ESPN, FOX, Outkick the Coverage, every Southern sports talk radio station and local news station in the country — we’re all cashing checks rooted in Manziel’s brilliance.

But boxing’s an individual sport, and Mayweather is the brightest star in the fading boxing galaxy.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:51 pm 


Havoc

They have to jack up the price just so to make sure everybody get paid. Floyd gets 70% of the revenue. 30% goes to everybody else.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:23 pm 


Thick

People cant wait for him to finally pick the wrong cherry.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:05 pm 


Thick

flomos act like people watch floyd because they love him they dont. He is the most hated athlete in the world and all the people that watched wanted him to lose quite embarrassing for him actually. Everybody hates him.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:01 pm 


SREDMOND

“Pacquiao the people’s Champion” LMFAO !!! Pac Mans fighting in China trying to drum up some interest in his comeback fight…Manny is an afterthought when it comes to Floyd… People are praying he can get a clean win where he impresses, meanwhile Floyd is breaking PPV, financial and attendance records with the publics help… I wish PAC the best but he is very much second fiddle to Mayweather..

Posted September 20, 2013 10:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, you still complaining about Mayweather being physical in the ring with a MW?? What a LOSER Canelo should have been able to handle that old man but with his 15 pounds of mass but alas NOOOOOOOOO Money’s too Good…now you need a special ref for hour fantasy fight with this MW nobody who cannot even take over his own division… Sad man your one of the worst whiners on this site…

Posted September 20, 2013 10:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Canelos team Could NOT prepare him for Floyd Mayweather the weight is an excuse and we both know that… There is NO WAY to train for even the current older version of Floyd Mayweather… No one fights like him, thinks or moves like him…We have seen 44 fighters unable to figure him out there was nothing absent a strong body and power to lead anyone to think Canelo would be “The One” why did the other 43 lose? Weight? Canelo was fine he just fought a peerless boxer and virtuoso… Stop trying to clean up because you over championed Canelos cause like that filthy Dog Bears…

Posted September 20, 2013 10:02 pm 


Snowman

GGG would destroy the little m/onkey.

Posted September 20, 2013 8:38 pm 


white is right

Farmboxer is the true king but with all the wiggers around here lately, he hasn’t stopped by. :(

Posted September 20, 2013 8:37 pm 


Hecdog

TJ my friend, yes I have met the legend. And no, I do not plan to write a book. I am just a big fan of his and I’m amazed at his story and the thing people make it against all odds. Can you imagine going from poverty to boxing champion to Congressman of a Country to the Cover of Time Magazine. Incredible!

Posted September 20, 2013 8:17 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

“I think Floyd would embarrass GGG by effectively potshotting him all night. GGG has never faced anyone that moves like Floyd, that has Floyd’s handspeed or ring IQ.” Unfortunately, the only way to find out if this opinion is true is for Floyd to fight GGG, and I don’t believe that that fight will take place. Floyd, please prove me to be wrong and make the Mayweather/GGG fight (only you can do it).

Posted September 20, 2013 7:17 pm 


TJ

Hecdog

Two questions for you…

Have you ever met Manny in person?
Any plans for you to write a book on this man? You really should consider it!

Posted September 20, 2013 6:48 pm 


PEEJ

Pac is not the peoples champ. He has lost his last 2 fights, the people know he is not champ. And Floyd is the true PPV king. He sells more than Pac in less PPV fights.

Posted September 20, 2013 6:23 pm 


TARK

Hidalgo.., Golovkin would murder Floyd.. That’s OK.. The won’t happen and is a stupid fight for Floyd.. If Floyd wanted the middleweight title Jermain Taylor was the guy to go after after Floyd beat De La Hoya. Floyd would have beaten the trash out of Taylor.

But he’s got NO shot at beating Golovkin… Martinez has looked really bad in his last couple fights … and that might be an opportunity since Martinez has been yelling for a Floyd fight.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:59 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao is the true Peoples Champion an the true PPV King. The legend will return in the most anticipated come back fight in the history of not just boxing but of all sports. The man is loved and admired by the world. Manny Pacquiao has received what Floyd Mayweather will never receive. Manny receives the love, respect, admiration, and honor of fans and fighters all over the world. He is the essence of a real fighter. His abilities go far beyond what Floyd Mayweather’s puppets can do for him. Manny is a humble, caring, modest, respectful, man that does more than brag and boast about his money, materials and wealth. He has lost himself in the world’s toys instead of storing his riches in Heaven. Manny Pacquiao fights not only in the ring, but more importantly fights as a congressman for the poor. He gives his money to the poor,and puts his name and reputation on the line as he fights the political battle where he is outnumbered ever single time. Manny fights for those women and children that are being trafficked across the borders and abused or killed. Manny Pacquiao understands as a Godly man the things that are important and have value in live. Manny Pacquiao is our Peoples Champion.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:54 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., I was NOT predicting a possible Canelo victory… I always had Floyd winning and favored.. ANYTHING is possible, so if a big kid who can punch connects perfectly, he can KO the GOAT..

I said the scores would be slanted towards Canelo and Floyd would win by a score of 116-112 at the outside… The outside score was 117-111, one round off my prediction. That’s a lot closer than your prediction that of Floyd shredding, painting, smoking, and KOing Canelo.

I was disappointed the fight wasn’t more exciting.. I thought Canelo’s team would do a better job with the catch-weight.. Canelo didn’t look vibrant and fresh at the weigh-in — and he could only rehydrate to 165 vs 172 for Trout, where he looked fit and ready. He was only able to add 13 vs 18 pounds … He didn’t look right, and I think you’d agree with that.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:52 pm 


Hidalgo

Floyd also uses his forearms and elbows to push off opponents’ throats and he’s not shy about using a headlock.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:43 pm 


Hidalgo

“Tark, Wakeup there is NOT a single active fighter that’s as technically complete as Mayweather coupled with his God Given athleticism… You think GGG is??? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!”

I think Floyd would embarrass GGG by effectively potshotting him all night. GGG has never faced anyone that moves like Floyd, that has Floyd’s handspeed or ring IQ.

If they did fight however, I would like to see a ref chosen that won’t allow Floyd to hold so much. He does hold excessively.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:42 pm 


Rem

Yeah he’s been carried by some Mexicans to rec. ppvs but after Nov. 25. Pac will again have sold more ppvs than any active fighter.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:25 pm 


Rem

For now till Pac surpasses him his next fight fact!

Posted September 20, 2013 5:20 pm 


Rem

Foreign fighter matching…..

Posted September 20, 2013 5:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao cannot touch Mayweather in the PPV department… This last event was done while Floyd is 36 and Manny is trying to dim the memory of Marquez planting his face in the Canvas…2.2 mill and counting for Canelo, 1 mill Guerrero and 1.5 mill for Cotto… Floyd’s on fire baby… Manny and Bradley did what 800k? Manny is the #2 man for sure when it comes to PPV but Floyd is earning total monies Manny could only dream of at this point…

Posted September 20, 2013 5:12 pm 


Rem

BRed Pac will leapfrog him next fight lol. Floyds now at 12.7 Pac at 11.9. And that’s a foreigh matching Floyd in his own country ROTF….

Posted September 20, 2013 4:52 pm 


B Red

Floyd is the ppv king

Posted September 20, 2013 4:42 pm 


Happyboy

RI0S IS A SACRIFICIAL LAMB ANY DUMMY CAN SEE THAT. HE JUST L0ST T0 ALVARAD0 & WAS SPANKED BY ABRIL.HIS Y0UR TYPICAL FACE FIRST PL0DDER TAYL0RMADE F0R PAC T0 PUT AWAY.PLEASE THIS IS A J0KE!

Posted September 20, 2013 4:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Wakeup there is NOT a single active fighter that’s as technically complete as Mayweather coupled with his God Given athleticism… You think GGG is??? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 4:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, I did think Floyd was gonna be more brutal with Canelo but in the end he won EASILY… You were predicting a possible Canelo Victory which you are now backing off of… Garcia and Mattysee both had a lot to prove, I thought Walters power would carry the day but Garcias chin and skill held up…You were betting on Canelo vs an ATG fighter neither Garcia nor Matthysee enjoy the same benefit of the doubt depending on the quality of their next opponents… Floyd Mayweather will only be defeated by time which is gaining on him…

Posted September 20, 2013 4:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Fight Aficianado, Rios is a soft touch relatively speaking he has never won at 147 and just lost at 140… He’s a tough as nails all action fighter but he’s there because defense is the farthest thing from his specialty and he has enough of a name that a PAC Man Ko will register… What would people say if Mayweather fought Rios coming direct off a loss and those successive wars??? PAC deserves a winnable bout at this point but Rios is there to take an L… If PAC struggles retirement or cashing himself out is the only viable option…

Posted September 20, 2013 4:27 pm 


BUSTAJAY

When Iron Mike Tyson says the man is on another skill level then you know Floyd is really on a much HIGHER LEVEL THAN ANY BOXER TODAY…..FO REAL

Posted September 20, 2013 4:18 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Uh, Rios. A good fighter who can breakdown anyone who is not a top dog. If Pac’s committment and fitness is waning he could get clobbered. After a KO loss Rios, a puncher, is not a soft touch.

Posted September 20, 2013 4:18 pm 


Anonymous

Again, WHO IS PACMAN ABOUT TO FIGHT? LMAO!!

Posted September 20, 2013 3:44 pm 


Anonymous

gray

Mayweather could man up and fight GGG but he won’t because he’s a coward and knows he’d get knocked spark out. Run Floyd run.

Posted September 20, 2013 3:27 pm 


Anonymous

SO THAT WAS GONNA BE MAYWEATHER”S TOUGHEST FIGHT,BOY THE REST OF THEM MUST BE COMPLETE BUMS.

Posted September 20, 2013 3:16 pm 


gray

Unless Floyd loses a fight and has a rematch he wont come anywhere near this record again. there is nobody left to fight except Pacqiao and thats not going to happen

Posted September 20, 2013 3:15 pm 


Mma fighter

Julio Cesar Chavez style comes back to boxing will be worth paying for and that style is not what Floyd wants to fight

Posted September 20, 2013 3:10 pm 


TARK

Urone2..,

I don’t agree that Canelo was more active vs Floyd than Trout in the late rounds.. Canelo was way ahead of Trout and had to be very sharp and active defensively because Trout was throwing.. Canelo counterpunched smartly.. Versus Floyd Canelo had no energy. He had no oomph. He had to try hard in the late rounds because he was far behind, but he wasn’t sharp and nothing was working. He was a dead dog.

Basically he had all the energy of a prune that was left to bake in the sun.

Posted September 20, 2013 2:59 pm 


TJ

Urone2

TJ,

Let me try this again, the hardcore fan base isn’t numerous enough to make a 3G fight with Mayweather possible. 3G has to bring his own fans to the show in order for it to be worth Mayweather accepting the fight. Simply put 3G has more work to do in order to get a fight with Mayweather. On one hand you have Medias #1 fighter in the world and then you have 3G, 3G has to work up to the Medias # something in the world to get a fight with Mayweather. it’s $5000 vs $50 winner take all or $5000 vs $2500 winner take all. When 3G get from 50 to 2500 I think then we can see the fight.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:14 pm

URONE 2

U HAVE JUST SAID EXACTLY what I have been saying….. FLOYD WILL FIGHT ANYONE, SO LONG as you guarantee he will make his base money which goes up with every fight…. If they can guarantee FLOYD 40M before all the add ons he will face GGG in a heartbeat….

It’s simple economics!

Posted September 20, 2013 2:33 pm 


Tomato Can

Mosely, Marquez, and Bradley had to sign with Top Rank in order to get a fight with Pacquiao. That was all Mayweather’s doing. Mayweather orchestrated all that too… LOL

Posted September 20, 2013 2:26 pm 


Rem

Urone the Floyd Arum issue is real g.b just went along with it because of the money to be made with Floyd. The 2 promotion companies were making fights until the Floyd Pac fight was demanded. Floyd was working with g.b anyway so they weren’t brought in to negotiate the Pac fight. How much was Pac being protected he lost to Morales, everyone thought Oscar was gonna k.o Pac and Pac kept fighting Marquez till he lost. Pac needs no protection my friend.

Posted September 20, 2013 2:19 pm 


Urone2

Rem,

Why do you think GBP was brought in during the first negotiations. Then for Marques to get the next to fights with Manny he had to sign with Bob Arum. Bradley had to sign with Bob Arum. But this Bob Arum this is just a farces, you need to look at the whole thing a bit closer.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:30 pm 


Ike4president1970

Misleading as the PPV price was at an all time high of $74.99. Doens’t mean that more people actually bought the fight, just that it was at least $25 higher than the previous record. However, not to take anything away from the fight, which was a masterclass. Ike out…

Posted September 20, 2013 1:24 pm 


Urone2

Rem,

If you truly believe your last post that would mean since Floyd left Top Rank he been avoiding Top Rank fighters so that in the future he would not have to fight Pacquioa. Bob Arum is the only promoter that is known to protect his high dollar fighter at all cost. Arum protected Mayweather, De La Hoya and now Pacquioa. But, you believe what you want, I just go with what history has shown me over the past years. Bob Arums top fighter fights Bob Arums bottom fighters, Arums smart he tries to keep it all in house.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:21 pm 


Urone2

TJ,

Let me try this again, the hardcore fan base isn’t numerous enough to make a 3G fight with Mayweather possible. 3G has to bring his own fans to the show in order for it to be worth Mayweather accepting the fight. Simply put 3G has more work to do in order to get a fight with Mayweather. On one hand you have Medias #1 fighter in the world and then you have 3G, 3G has to work up to the Medias # something in the world to get a fight with Mayweather. it’s $5000 vs $50 winner take all or $5000 vs $2500 winner take all. When 3G get from 50 to 2500 I think then we can see the fight.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:14 pm 


Rem

And for the rec. this top rank g.b nonsense it all orchestrated by Floyd to avoid Pac. Marquez was a g.b fighter in his first 2 fights with Pac. Oscar fought Pac himself so how far back does the rivalry go it goes back to when the public asked for Floyd v Pac. Floyd created this nonsense and he can undo it.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:06 pm 


Urone2

TARK,

For all that you said about Canelo being dried out during the weight-in with Mayweather you have to admit that he looked better down the stretch with Mayweather than he did with Trout. I thought that Canelo would be a dead man walking after 4 rounds, he didn’t have a lot of bounce in his step but he was able to generate more activity in the later round in the Mayweather fight than he did in the Trout fight. I think Canelos preparation was fine his game plan was flawed.

The people who believe that Pacquioa has a chance have some good points about activity beating Mayweather. I think that combination punching and 70 to 80 punches around done smartly is the only way to beat Mayweather. I don’t think Pacquioa rush in style wouldn’t work or should I say Roach’s style. To stop Roach’s style just stand your ground and Mayweather knows this.

Mayweather does several different thing is the ring while setting up his easy work for the last half of his fights, until a fighter and his corner are able to recognize this and nullify these thing Mayweather will continue to win.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:01 pm 


TJ

Urone2

OBVIOUSLY, YOU DIDN’T UNDERSTAND MY POST….
MY POST STATED if there are fans who seriously want to see Mayweather fight GGG then put their money where their mouth is…..

People on whine and whine, but when push comes to shove and they have to dip in their own pockets, suddenly they get cold feet….

I’m just saying put up or shut up….. There is not ONE CHAMPION in the last 30 years since I’ve followed boxing who met the BEST contender EVERY time.

HECK SRL, ran from TOMMY HEARNS for 8 years, refusing to give him a rematch!!!!! NUFF SAID!!!!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 12:56 pm 


Havoc

if Floyd man up and fight Pacquioa then we will see the real record breaking PPV buys and Money this planet earth would have ever see…

Posted September 20, 2013 12:40 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., Your analysis of how Floyd-Canelo would go was WAAAAAY off the mark. You said Floyd would “shred, paint, smoke, and KO Canelo.” You were basically in Zu Zu Land—like you were for Matthysse’s fights with Peterson and Garcia. You’re just a very poor analyst.

I was only a round off on the Floyd-Canelo scores, and always said it was a distance fight—but I made an adjustment after Canelo looked parched at the weigh-in. He looked great at the Trout weigh-in, so his drying out process didn’t go well for Floyd. I was very critical of his preparation and sparring already—and expected Floyd to score a clear win after seeing how Saul appeared at the weigh-in.

Posted September 20, 2013 12:39 pm 


Urone2

TJ,

Give it a break 3G has to generate more of a market to get a fight with Mayweather. He brings only hardcore boxing fans and that’s not going to be enough. Boxing is business and sport the investment is the boxers. You yourself would not put $5000 on a table against $50 in a winner take all game of checkers no matter how good you are. It just doesn’t make sense. If 3G can generate a following outside of the hardcore fans, I think the fight with Mayweather can be made as long as 3G also stays away from Bob Arum.

Posted September 20, 2013 12:39 pm 


Urone2

People might as well forget about Pac vs Floyd as long as Pac is with Bob Arum. I don’t remember Floyd fighting any Bob Arum fighters since he left Top Rank and HBO back in the day sighting slave wages. I could be wrong but I think the Mayweather sweepstakes is a game that Bob Arum will not be invited to at this point. It seems the Mayweather would have to lose and be in need of a big fight before a business deal with Bob Arum will happen. The only way Bob Arum let Pacquioa go is when there’s no blood left in Pacquioa for Bob to suck.

Posted September 20, 2013 12:32 pm 


TJ

SERIOUSLY FOLKS, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE CHANGE you have to get up off your bottoms and to force change. We campaigned long and hard on the old SETANTA site for our own boxing TV channel and various members got off their butts and started petitions and canvassed support from genuine fans.

In the space of 4 years we got what we were asking for (to a degree)….

The sport of boxing is actually a business first and sport, a distant second.

Therefore, my suggestion is for people who want to see GGG take on Floyd to start a movement to canvas people’s opinions and let AL HAYMON, SHOWTIME and the MAYWEATHERS know you are serious as there is definitely a RISK:REWARD gap here as Golovkin is NOT a big name worldwide that will generate 1.5M plus PPVS….

I would go as far to say that along with the canvas of names you get a nominal 10 dollar fee (deposit) from them to show that they are serious in their desire and will pay for such a contest….

If you get 1.5M or even 1M people prepared to shell out 69.95 or 79.95 or whatever the PPV cost I would be certain that SHOWTIME will make the fight happen. Although, I do believe that GGG is with HBO, so that is a snag!!!

It is really that simple.

No one got anywhere by whining…. Get up off your butts and do something about it!!!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 12:23 pm 


Rem

SRed with Showtime involved now the fight can still happen Floyd has 4 fight left and there’s no one with a following big enough for Showtime executives to be comfortable with. Who’s the next Mexican to bring boxings biggest fanbase Soto-Karas nope. Kahn won’t sell crap in the States Garcias probably the next best thing but very few are interested. Floyd v Canelo wasn’t thrilling and people aren’t looking foward to the list of weak opponents left for Floyd to fight. Pac v Floyd would still do 1.5 mil at 75-80$ a pop

Posted September 20, 2013 12:13 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., I wasn’t so big on Canelo. I always said he wasn’t a complete fighter. I always said Floyd would beat him. I always pointed out that he failed to take out Matt Hatton and wouldn’t put Floyd out, when idiots like Ivanov and others insisted the kid would KO Floyd. Ivanov said Floyd had flaws like holding his chin too high and I slammed him for that stupidity.

But although Canelo isn’t a great boxer-puncher at this time, there are guys who are. Floyd isn’t the only great fighter out there.

Posted September 20, 2013 12:06 pm 


Mma fighter

PAC would be a huge draw with may a lot of people would pay to see . Nobody knows who would win .pac man attacks that is why may did not fight him. Marquez was losing and got that shot . Freddie roach will have PAC ready. May would have his hands full . And that why he never fought margreito hand wraps or not . Dangerous fight when somebody eats 5 punches to get 1 and hits with power . And keeps going . Bradly is another dangerous puncher but that’s his only chance .

Posted September 20, 2013 12:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao is a super fit athlete but we have seen him lose and struggle with a guy that Floyd made look terrible… A guy who at 40 is about to fight for WW title against a VERY GOOD young opponent who I think he will be the first to stop:..PAC lost to Erik Morales, again there is no shame but Floyds peerless excellence has to be lauded… Terrible would have been super easy work for Mayweather… If Mayweather had Marquez down 3 or 4 points in the first round would he let him box his way to a draw?? Not a shot on Earth…

Posted September 20, 2013 11:26 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is NOT gonna hit 2 mill again no one will give the opponent a chance and if he loses at 39 it’s gonna be said “he finally got old”…. Canelo had the perception of a chance due to his size and the Mexican fans love him.. Absent a PAC Man resurrection and him leaving Top Rank 2 million buys is gonna be outta reach.. His fans will support the farewell tour but 1.4 million buys will be a good night from here on out… These other guys don’t have the noteriety nor perception of a chance… Beating Canelo like that has made even the most ardent FMJ doubters say “only a MW has a chance” unfortunately for them it’s not Floyds job to stack the deck against himself..

Posted September 20, 2013 11:19 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, Floyds an ATG, Kovalev and GGG are guys trying to make a name.. We have seen these early stage KO artists go under before… Call me when they step up the Comp and book some really notable wins… You wanna compare batters? A guy batting 325 in the minors does not compare to Pujols who for 10 years straight hit 330 in the majors… You do this EVERYTIME you were SOOOOOO big on Canelo now your abandoning ship because playtime was over..

Posted September 20, 2013 11:14 am 


Rem

Good thing is since Showtime has a say in his fights now only Pac can really generate big #s again. Pacs team already said he’s not tied to no network and imo the Canelo fight didn’t live up to the hype do to Canelo trying to outbox Floyd. The only other fight for Floyd that could do good #s is probably Broner but that would be bad for Broners future imo. Unless Floyd feels generous and pays Broner a big cut its not worth killing his stock and it will Floyd would humiliate him moreover itd be the biggest snoozefest in boxing history with both men waiting on each other till the final bell.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:12 am 


SREDMOND

Klitschko is committed but what about him claiming he was “gassing” against Ross 13 loss Purrity? or Sanders and attempting to steal cred from Brewster? We have seen Klits need to make excuses NONE of those boxers are anything special who beat him… Martinez as a younger got beat by a lessor athlete like Margarito again there was “an off night” Kovalev, Garcia, Rigondeaux and Golovkin DON’T belong in the conversation because they are NEW JACKS at the pro level… Floyd’s been fighting at the World Class since he stopped Genaro Hernandez at 21 or 22… Hopkins is obviously Father Time himself but again he lost during his early career and was clearly defeated by a the SuperNatural Talent Roy Jones Jr… Floyd Mayweather is peerless when it comes to excellence over the discussed span of time.. By the time Klits had 45 bouts he had been stopped inside the distance 3x meanwhile Floyd has lost ONE card in that entire 45 bout period… Mayweather has thus far gotten 100% on the tests and simultaneously is the Unified 154 pound Champ and WW Champ… His dominance is unparalleled…The only other Elite fighter who has been 100% up to the task is Andre Ward, no excuses or KO losses on his record thus far and he’s fighting comp LEAGUES above the GGG’s of the World..

Posted September 20, 2013 11:10 am 


TARK

Floyd is the best.. But he’s a singles hitter.. 2 KO’s in his last 10 fights, and one of those was a “please-hit-me” KO.

Golovkin and Kovalev knock that ball out of the park. Mikey Garcia is another.

Sergio Martinez can punch, but he’s been looking really weak in his last few fights. There are not too many hitters out their who can box your ass off … and then punch you out.

On the other hand… If you’re killing people it’s harder to get fights.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:10 am 


wutupdoe

“I’m glad I kept my money for this snoozefest” Blah, blah, blah. Your $75 wasn’t needed.

Posted September 20, 2013 11:07 am 


SREDMOND

Sorry “Robe” the “Cherries thesis” don’t fly Floyd Mayweather has been lineal champ in 4 weight classes there is no way that gets accomplished facing weak opponents… At 36, it usually does not take a special opponent to defeat a fighter usually between the learning stages early and getting into your mid 30′s guys lose, the law of averages catches up… Mayweather barely loses rounds against World Class fighters and even HOF boxers like Mosley and Marquez he’s in a class of his own and he proves it over and over Canelo was just the latest victim…

Posted September 20, 2013 10:56 am 


Mma fighter

May out fought him no excuses .give him credit Canelo should have tried to fight him instead of trying to box him he had his chance move on.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:50 am 


TARK

There are a lot of committed athletes today. The Klitschko Bros, Haye, Mchunu, Kovalev, Hopkins, Ward, Golovkin, Martinez, Floyd, Mikey Garcia, Donaire, Rigondeaux.

But Floyd had the benefit of an earlier start and better matchmaking than 99.9999% of boxers. I see talented kids who are pros for 3 or 4 years and they have 7 or 8 fights. Floyd had professionals in his family putting great fights together for him from the start. He accomplished more in his first year than a lot of guys do in 5 years.

Floyd went through a period where he was stressed out. Everybody does who’s been in this business continually for 20 years or more. Boxing burns you TFO. He needed a break. The thing is he caame back refreshed and excited — like Leonard, Ali, and Vitali did when they took long breaks. They never missed a beat.

When most boxers are off for 2 or 3 years they find it very hard to get back into the groove… Floyd was healed up from a lot of nagging injuries and slipped right in like he was never away.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:47 am 


big mike

A middle weight fights welter weights, and somehow the welter is accused of draining his opponent , perhaps Canelo shouldn’t voluntarily drain to beat guys like Josesito Popes but then its a problem when he loosed(to Floyd of course). Hating Floyd on empty pockets is bad for you.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:34 am 


Robe

Whether Floyd reaches that mystical 300M will depend largely on who he fights……not when he fights. A Couple more of those guerrero numbers and he just might have his contract nixed.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:28 am 


Fun time Frankie.

Imagine the numbers if Mayweather fought GGG. They would go through the roof. It would be massive. Mayweather fights the most dangerous boxer on the planet at 154 that would be the biggest fight in modern day history!

Posted September 20, 2013 10:26 am 


bobcats

Robe, just stop living in illusion and unnecessary hate and jealousy, it is not good for your own health. Look at your life please. Stop living in misery of hate and propaganda. Floyd has done just fine. Just accept it and on please.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:24 am 


Robe

Redmond, you’re correct….don’t forget to mention it also takes a boat load of dedication to select the best cherries, ahem, the best cherry picked opponents and then deciding if he needs to weight drain them, let alone, determining which past his prime, damaged or old opponent meets those qualifications.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:23 am 


Robe

The Showtime hype has begun…..so early the results are known?….. the last time Floyd fought Guerrero…they were supposedly tabulating the results for weeks after only to learn that it barely hit 800K. Now, before a week is out, they supposedly want the world to believe the Alvarez/floyd fight did more than 2.5M. Yeah, right!
This is a ploy….a cheap marketing strategy to make you believe that Floyd really can break the previous record, thereby creating the illusion that Floyd’s next fight will sell really well.

What some folks don’t understand is, that it takes two fighters to make a fight worthwhile. By himself, Floyd suffers….look at the numbers when he fought Guerrero. An Oscar De La Hoya he definitely is not. Point is, if he doesn’t fight a well known latino or a fighter that is not an underdog, a fighter that is not cherry picked, a fighter that is not weight drained…..he can forget about reaching the illusion of 300M.

Posted September 20, 2013 10:19 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is showing Young fighters what is possible with Hard Work, Comittment and excellence that has spanned most of his life… Floyd was an amazing amateur, and amazing young fighter and amazing older fighter… He was NOT Ray Leonard, Oscar both Gold Medalists who were given the red carpet upon entry to boxing (I respect both men) Floyd had to keep winning, leave his promoter and wait till he was 30 before he transformed into “Money Mayweather” none of this happened overnight!!! He had to win titles in 5 divisions before he started making the mega money he is now… Soo many boxers Hatton, Juanma and others don’t stay in shape between bouts, they abuse themselves and expect to be peak athletes on fight night… Mayweather NEVER shows up unprepared or takes an opponent lightly like these other boxers do… His confidence is a blend of talent, mental strength and preparation… Few boxers have ever come close to staying on the path the way he has for 17 years…Bravo

Posted September 20, 2013 9:59 am 


Mbuyiseli

Better yet, Arum can count all the Chinese PPV buys. Won’t be worth crap but I can tell you this, it will never be broken.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:24 am 


Rem

MBuy shouldn’t you be pissed too since you won’t get to see it smh. Are you a fan of boxing or Floyds bank account. Hope your cuts in the mail bro.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:22 am 


Delk1

I came across this interesting read about TEXAS AM Quarterback. Thought you might find this interesting. Here is a little pieces of it.

Article
I suppose these people have their own reasons. Lots of us crave law and order and the tamping down of individuality. We all bring our values to sports, and for conservative fans there’s a “right way” and a “wrong way” to play football. And Johnny Manziel plays “the wrong way.” The subtext here is clear: He’s too uppity and needs to be shown his place by a conservative society.

Floyd Mayweather has made hundreds of millions of dollars by antagonizing this audience, a massive segment of the American sporting public. These sports fans hate Mayweather so much that they might just make Mayweather a billionaire by hoping for him to lose. They’ve been rooting for another boxer, it doesn’t matter who, to put Mayweather in his place for nearly a generation now.

Mayweather’s “place” is the bank, where he’s gleefully cashing these haters’ checks, making so much money he can’t even spend it all. Manziel isn’t cashing many of his own checks yet, but he’s making an awful lot of money for everyone basking in the penumbra of Manziel’s talents. CBS, ESPN, FOX, Outkick the Coverage, every Southern sports talk radio station and local news station in the country — we’re all cashing checks rooted in Manziel’s brilliance.

But boxing’s an individual sport, and Mayweather is the brightest star in the fading boxing galaxy.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:20 am 


Rem

Man i didn’t think Canelo would be a ppv star but he’s really on his way. A fight with Cotto or Martinez will do a mil. ppv buys easily.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:18 am 


Anonymous

This fight reminds me of when SRL fought a 36-0 champion Ayub Kalule. Remember that fight? Neither do I. Can you imagine if THAT was the highest grossing fight at the time? That would not have been a good thing. Neither is this. Mayweather-Pacquiao in 08/09 would be one I could understand. But this reeks of smoke and mirror, and greed.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:18 am 


Mbuyiseli

Pacquaio fans are pissed. You can now forget the Mayweather vs Pacquaio fight. Manny brings lesser to the table than the last negotiations.

Posted September 20, 2013 9:15 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

“but who can argue that walking away with at least one hundred mill paycheck and intact faculties to dance yet again isn’t a success story?” This.

Posted September 20, 2013 8:40 am 


GhettoWizzard

Sad. “Money” is the face of boxing.

Posted September 20, 2013 8:38 am 


K.C.

BOYCOTT PPV…

Posted September 20, 2013 8:26 am 


Rem

Aw man we’re screwed Floyds gonna think he can fight the E trade baby next and sell lol.

Posted September 20, 2013 8:18 am 


Brick City

Hell, Marquez is a popular Mexican fighter, his fight with Bradley is PPV i believe, now ask me if im buying…..

Posted September 20, 2013 8:01 am 


Brick City

@ Wayne Lord, Canelo couldnt have did those numbers without Mayweather, He isnt even a PPV fighter. I wouldnt buy his fights. If he werent fighting Mayweather, he wouldnt have done nearly as well number wise, think about it!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 8:00 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

5 quarts – not 56

Posted September 20, 2013 7:38 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

I bought the fight, but I did not, “did not have to pay the insane $79.99 PPV price” as I don’t have HDTV, and Valvoline had a $35.00 promotion (56 quarts of their synthetic oil – which I needed for my new car anyhow + Showtime had a free three month promotion for those that bought the fight). None-the-less, I got to see a master at work, and I’m glad that I tuned in. As for the previous decades, I’ve been watching boxing since the mid fifties, and it really is still boxing – you never know what you’ll be getting (remember Liston-Ali in Lewiston, Maine)? A friend’s uncle paid $500.00 for ringside seats, and it was over before he was seated.

Posted September 20, 2013 7:32 am 


Sil

I know people knock Floyd, but who can argue that walking away with at least one hundred mill paycheck and intact faculties to dance yet again isn’t a success story? Love or hate, WE ALL TUNE IN!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 7:07 am 


Wayne Lord

I believe the figures are correct. Any fool knew that Canelo had a huge following, look at what he did in Mexico. I have been saying if Floyd was as popular as his idiot fans believe, he would be drawing much larger numbers like other boxers draw back in their countries. He would also be getting ad revenues.
Floyd does not draw unless he fights on Mexican favourite dates and to emphasize, against Latino, preferably Mexican fighters. Having said that, he drew flies versus Guerrero so they did not release figures so quickly because they knew they were dismal. Now because the figures are great based on Canelo, who had refused to fight on the last PPV, they are quickly released.

Posted September 20, 2013 6:57 am 


punch

All these idiot over the internet calling Floyd a coward, I’m sure most of them have never laced up a boxing gloves in their wretched lives. It’s just a waste of time trying to talk sense into these empty heads. Just for the very last time. Floyd weighted exactly 146 pounds on fight night as he had problems keeping his weight up. Since he’s a natural 147 pounds fighter he only moved up to fight Canelo, Oscar and Cotto because these were big money fights and he had to make concessions, plus he wanted to market he fight and nothing markets the fight better when people believe Floyd’s opponents do have a chance which makes me wonder what kind of coward does all these things?

Posted September 20, 2013 6:19 am 


twogunman

What a bum Canelo is. Anybody who paid for this is a fool. Boxing is at an all time low at this time. I go back to the early 60;s watching it.

Posted September 20, 2013 6:04 am 


SREDMOND

Mayweathers in a league of his own pretending that any boxer has clout in or out of the ring at this point is the equivalent to arguing that Obama’s the president… Floyd gave people a fight they had been clamoring for and made it look easy… He has to give up one of his WBC belts by the end of the year, I’m thinking it will be at 154…

Posted September 20, 2013 5:50 am 


SREDMOND

SREDMOND below

Posted September 20, 2013 5:45 am 


Anonymous

Clearly Mayweather can EASILY do without the PPV dollars of any poster on this site… He has broken the bank several times over… The man is earning the career amount of many NBA players in a single night… He is not the usual boxer being exploited by promoters etc…. This event was beyond massive

Posted September 20, 2013 5:43 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

I for one am glad to see a combat (specifically boxing) athlete earning top dollar (closing in on $100,000,000) rather than a golfer or soccer, or basketball, or baseball, or football player – all of which other than golf are team and not individual sports.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:39 am 


Fight Scribe

@ Haimat – you may not have paid for a Floyd fight but 1 or 2 have and it shows…in his mansion…his cars…woman…lols so I don’t think he’ll miss your particular contribution to his fortune.

Posted September 20, 2013 5:06 am 


Haimat

I’ve never paid for a PBF show and proud of it!

Posted September 20, 2013 4:14 am 


murderman

@ proud african – dude i dont entertain ignorance. So on that note gnite sir!

Posted September 20, 2013 2:15 am 


Proud African

Murderman – you see, after imbibing a few king cobras and mickeys my inner true libido rises! So what do you say murderman, I bring the padded handcuffs and you bring the beads!

Posted September 20, 2013 2:12 am 


Anonymous

” WHAT HAPPEN TO ”50 ‘CENT / HE WAS NOT AT THE ”FIGHT ?

Posted September 20, 2013 2:06 am 


murderman

@ proud african – wtf?!!!!

Posted September 20, 2013 1:59 am 


Proud Yank

Proud African… Agree my man…these haters only make me fight fire with fire.
I’m not gonna lie my favorite boxer all-time is Roy Jones Junior.
But I kno Floyd trumps RJJ..

Posted September 20, 2013 1:56 am 


The Prince

I love when the Mayweather haters claim the PPV didn’t make any money only for the buys to surpass the last event. They keep hating and Mayweather keeps winning.

Posted September 20, 2013 1:54 am 


Proud Yank

You guys need to get a grip

Posted September 20, 2013 1:54 am 


Proud African

Murderman , you can join this circle of bliss between yank and myself as we’ll.. We are the fluff boys for sexy mAyweather… Just bring the whip cream and gagging ball!

Posted September 20, 2013 1:51 am 


murderman

@ sc – no usual we agree. But u dead wrong on this one. 1st off last time i check ggg was a mw. 2nd pac n money fight didnt happen for numerous reason. Pac waffled on drug testing. Floyd stingy ass wouldnt give pac no more than 40 mil. Then u have bob arum n gbp who can never seem to make a deal together. If pac fights may it will be another may clinic. But i rather see may vs pac than floyd vs ggg. Ggg will be too much for floyd. But i dont understand y u this its ok for floyd to fight ggg? Would u ask pac to fight canelo? Canelo wil kill pac! Asking floyd to fight mw isnt being realistic. Next yall will expect him to fight ward. Remember floyd n pac basically fought the same guys. So if floyd is a cherry picker than so is pac. Just think bout it old friend. Peace n blessings!

Posted September 20, 2013 1:47 am 


Proud African

yank-these haters are truly envious of Floyd…lets rub this one out together like we did last Thursday night… Me, you , hot oil, whips, duct tape???

Posted September 20, 2013 1:45 am 


Proud Yank

My God…. You guys are so envy of Floyd..get a grip man..

Posted September 20, 2013 1:16 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

3G will outbox and smash FMJ in his own weight-class (154lbs). FMJ doesn’t have to up in weight at all. The only thing he has to do is PROVE he has the balls and skills to fight the very best in the world at 154lbs.

That’s why FMJ will most likely vacate 3 MAJOR 154lbs like a little coward and only agree to fight at 147lbs — where he has all the height, reach and size advantages.

(But he still won’t agree to fight little, 5’6″ PacMan, with his short T-Rex arms, unless Pac loses to Rios and shows he’s obviously past his prime and washed up.)

Posted September 20, 2013 12:50 am 


Tyrone Jones

but the showtime footage didnt seem near as good as HBO’s

Posted September 20, 2013 12:48 am 


Tyrone Jones

Then here was a lot a folks that knew they would enjoy Matthysse vs Garcia

Posted September 20, 2013 12:35 am 


Tachyon

Big Moe your post are on target!!

Posted September 20, 2013 12:34 am 


Tyrone Jones

Seems a lot of Mexicans wanted to see Pretty Boy Floyd get whooped

Posted September 20, 2013 12:30 am 


Havoc

Good, no more excuses why he can’t pay his taxes on time.

Posted September 20, 2013 12:27 am 


SREDMOND

Mhhm…long live the “long” almighty sexy Floyd…I’ve seen it! – “J’etame lhomme noir!”

Posted September 20, 2013 12:27 am 


SREDMOND

Mhhm..long live the “long” almighty sexy Floyd…I’ve seen it! – “J’etame lhomme noir!”

Posted September 20, 2013 12:26 am 


Havoc

$79.99 vs. $39.99 do the math…

Posted September 20, 2013 12:25 am 


big moe

Mayweather needs pac someone said. Yeah okay. Lets see pac take on canelo and do these numbers. Or better yet lets see the rios fight crack a mill. Good luck with that.

Posted September 19, 2013 11:21 pm 


GGG is king.

Mayweather is running away from Golovkin, he’s scared to fight him. Run away Floyd, Golovkin will destroy you. Floyd ‘The Ducker’ Mayweather.

Posted September 19, 2013 10:59 pm 


malachi

Mayweathers the man,some of you don’t even know what real boxing is your just casual fans that love to blog,please do us a favor and get off the boxing sites dont ufc have their own site disappear…yezzir!

Posted September 19, 2013 10:55 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

In another article, Yahoo Sports, it was stated that Floyd’s earnings may approach $100,000,000 for the Canelo fight.

Posted September 19, 2013 10:51 pm 


jake

glad I didn`t get suckered into paying 60.00 for this borefest , will wait and watch it free on showtimme

Posted September 19, 2013 10:29 pm 


big moe

Tell triple g to fight ward. Oh wait…they said they needed time to prep for him. Fans response? “Its okay. Here is your free pass triple g. Go after floyd and we ll make sure we call floyd a ducker for not fighting a middleweight”.

Hey sergio fight triple g. Dibella says “no thanks. We want the pay day with floyd. We would cut weight to get the fight too” fans repsonse? “Its okay sergio. You dont have to fight in your own division. Here is your free pass to fight the smaller floyd. And we will make sure we spin it to make it look like floyd is ducking”

Posted September 19, 2013 10:16 pm 


big moe

Tell triple g to fight ward. Oh wait…they said they needed time to prep for him. Fans response? “Its okay. Here is your free pass triple g. Go after floyd and we ll make sure we call floyd a ducker for not fighting a middleweight”.

Hey sergio fight triple g. Dibella says “no thanks. We want the pay day with floyd. We would cut weight to get the fight too” fans repsonse? “Its okay sergio. You dont have to fight in your own division. Here is your free pass to fight the smaller floyd. And we will make sure we spin it to make it look like floyd is ducking”.

Posted September 19, 2013 10:12 pm 


LiveWire9

All time record for an all time turd.

Posted September 19, 2013 10:07 pm 


Anonymous

Keep running away from GGG, Mayweather. He’ll knock you out Floyd!

Posted September 19, 2013 10:01 pm 


LVboxing

“Wow”! “Amazing”! “Terrific”! Hahahahaha! Keep giving your money to that woman beater, morons.

Posted September 19, 2013 8:59 pm 


Hidalgo

From a recent Forbes magazine article:

“Floyd Mayweather Career Earnings To Hit $350 Million With Canelo Fight”

This is based on Floyd making a total of $70 million from the Canelo fight. Now that we know what the PPV numbers are, Floyd will likely make close to $80 million for just one fight!

Posted September 19, 2013 8:54 pm 


Hidalgo

Impressive!

Posted September 19, 2013 8:41 pm 


WHAT!?!

Public Enemy is very quiet after mouthing off 2 days ago how this PPV was an absolute flop and Showtime will be dumping FMJ to cut their losses.

Posted September 19, 2013 8:34 pm 


The Voice of Boxing

Wow! We already got figures for this fight and still nothing for the failure against Guerrero? Like I said before, unless Floyd has a decent dance partner, he will not draw. His All Access was boring and tiresome. He is an artist not a warrior. A great artist but unless he has a decent Challenger no one wants to see paint dry.

Posted September 19, 2013 8:24 pm 


ERECTAMUNDO

Canelo did not use his jab at all. Oh well. Danny Garcia would lose against Mayweather. He has a good chin but it wont do him any good because Mayweather will just look to win on points and he will. Danny’s left will be neutralized and countered.

Posted September 19, 2013 8:13 pm 


Borincano

Steeper prices then the Oscar vs Floyd fight to get those bigger figures.

Posted September 19, 2013 8:12 pm 


TARK

Danny Garcia is not nearly as skilled a boxer-puncher as Mikey Garcia is… However, a fight between Danny and Floyd will do 1.5… Danny will do better than expected against Floyd because he’s a very quick counterpuncher with a lot of power… You need a big left hook to beat Floyd.

For one thing Danny won’t have to worry about weight… He’ll line up better sparring than Canelo did… He has Bernard Hopkins as somebody who can give him technical advice on improving his all around boxing skills.. Bernard already gave him some good tips for the Matthysse fight.. Danny hits people with that left hook and down they go.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:56 pm 


Ray

ITs funny that everyone thinks it was all Mayweather that pushed the PPV buys. You have the entire country of Mexico, Argentina, and the Puerto rican community behind theses buys. Mayweather without them wouldnt have done so well. We saw what happened with the Guerrero fight by himself. It wasnt just because of the Canelo’s fans but the Matthysee vs Garcia bout that gave a big push too.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos NEVER gonna face a GBP fighter and no GBP fighter is facing a Top Rank fighter..PAC and Floyd are on HBO and Showtime respectively there is no chance of all these issues being worked out unless PAC Man left Top Rank which seems unlikely… Besides I’m sure Floyd would love that easy money at this point… I’m nervous about PAC against Rios to be honest…

Posted September 19, 2013 7:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Floyd’s at the pinnacle, he is not gonna hit 2 mill again Canelo was given a shot by the public and he had a following… At this point Mayweather needs to get back to 147, fullfill his contract and retire… He has been in the 2 biggest fights in history, also the 3rd and 4th biggest non HW Cotto and Mosley(tie ODH vs Trinidad) the mans in a league he created… Hats off, the sunset beckons Champ…

Posted September 19, 2013 7:46 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Despite knowing that Floyd would dominate the fight, I gladly bought it, and I was pleased to see a master display his skills. Yes, a K.O. would have made the fight even better; however, Floyd’s total domination was well worth the price.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:46 pm 


Ray

Danny Garcia vs Mayweather? Eh, it will sell but it wont reach 1.5 million. As I said before, no lightweight or welterweight can beat him. Pacquioa would be the only one that would come close (*er) than Cotto. IF Floyd wants to be challenged then yea, definately a step up to the 154lbs division is next. BY that I mean no catchweights either. He doesnt have to venture out to other weight classes ( and he wont) and from here on out its easy money for him should he stay at welter. We all know he wont fight Pacquioa….so….

Posted September 19, 2013 7:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelos not even gonna be on PPV unless he faces Cotto who has already been on PPV for years… Canelo has a rabid fan base but they are more inclined to go see him in Texas now that he took a loss where he did not compete effectively..

Posted September 19, 2013 7:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Awesome Card, Mayweather is gonna make so much extra bank it’s crazy….HBO has gotta be pissed they lost that cheese… Great night for boxing as the P4P King continues to roll on like a Mack Truck..!

Posted September 19, 2013 7:37 pm 


Anonymous

So what, Cotto left Mayweather bloody and Canelo couldn’t land one significant punch.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:32 pm 


Q – Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras

Hecdog knows wuts up.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:29 pm 


Q – Public Enemy-Sredmond 3 mosqueteras

Thank you Canelo.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:18 pm 


The Mad Scientist

How can this fight set all time PPV record if Miguel Cotto is the 3rd biggest draw in the sport and his fight against Mayweather only did 1.5..??? Maybe Public Enema can provide us with the answer to that one..Lol!

Posted September 19, 2013 7:17 pm 


Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio

I never thought this world had so many suckers, who believe that Canelo had a chance against the potshotting mayweather!! Sheessshh!!

Posted September 19, 2013 7:12 pm 


TARK

If GGG was just a masterful boxer and not such a great puncher… It would be easier for him to get Martinez and Quillin into a ring.

As it is, pigs will fly up your rear end before Chavez Jr gets into a ring with him.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:08 pm 


TARK

Right.., Since Canelo is such a big PPV star… let’s see if he can pull a million PPViews with Cotto … Good luck with that.

Posted September 19, 2013 7:04 pm 


wutupdoe

I’d like to see GGG against JCC jr.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:50 pm 


wutupdoe

Hecdog, I wonder how much Canelo vs. Guerrero would’ve done.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:48 pm 


Ilocano

Spot on, Hecdog.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:43 pm 


Ilocano

Wow!! The figure is amazing & record breaking.However,I reckon it is not solely because of Mayweather.The great part of it is because of Canelo’s Hispanic/Latino fans & community plus the quality of the under cards topped with good publicity.Same as the way De la Hoya did during their fight.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:40 pm 


david d.

Congrats to BOXING! To all the of young MMA promoters, fighters, and die hard fans, who believe boxing is dead; watch, listen, and learn!

FMJ may have beaten the Golden Boy, but he did well to take the road Oscar took to the boxer/promoter road….to success!

Posted September 19, 2013 6:34 pm 


Hecdog

TOOSALTY, I had picked Garcia, Molina and Mayweather. I’m not saying Mayweather has to fight GGG at all. It’s up to him if he wants to fight a naturally bigger guy in a heavier weight class. Even though he tells everyone that skills pay bills. He can fight Khan, Garcia, Cotto, Matthysse and make good money, but they offer no challenge at all. If he really wants to test himself as he always says, that would be the most intriguing fight of all, and IMO, he would get beat. GGG would be his limit.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:33 pm 


Pimp

Exciting fight My Ass…..

Posted September 19, 2013 6:24 pm 


Boxtradamus

WHO needs De la Hoya???? Ummm I guess Pacquiao still needs him since he can’t seem to sell more WITHOUT him…..OR he needs Maywearher WHO is on the Top 2 Money Fights in History. WOW!!!!.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:24 pm 


TARK

When I said this fight would break all PPV revenue numbers after Canelo KO’d Lopez, Sredmond and the other Floydiots said I was dreaming.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:23 pm 


TARK

Danny has a better record than Canelo… Undefeated and untied.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:21 pm 


TARK

The next Mayweather fight will be Danny Garcia.. That should do about 1.5

Posted September 19, 2013 6:20 pm 


TARK

Hecdog.., I think he needed Floyd’s help… Since he’s never headed a PPV before.

Posted September 19, 2013 6:18 pm 


Anonymous

and the next mayweather fight wont even do 500 k buys unless its pacquaio cause people are sick of his lame fights

Posted September 19, 2013 6:17 pm 


Hecdog

Canelo obviously sold “The One”

Posted September 19, 2013 6:15 pm 


Boxtradamus

WOW!!!!!!

Posted September 19, 2013 6:05 pm 



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