RAY GORDEN REID
you aint got good word for any fighter BRUCE, YOU WANA TRY IT your self before you call them wankers,your the wankerPosted September 24, 2013 3:45 pm
RAY GORDEN REID,NEVER KNEW THAT YOU LOVED LITTLE TOE HAYE.Posted September 24, 2013 9:03 am
Seriously???? If he has “zero chance against a big puncher like ” you say , then go on to say put him in the ring with Wilder???? Moron ,Wilder though raw, has a fully loaded howitzer in his right hand, Fury has a leaky defense and a questionable chin. At least with Haye he has a huge reach advantage , with Fury he won’t have that would end up sparked ….Posted September 24, 2013 1:53 am
RAY GORDEN REID
BRUCE IS A TWATPosted September 23, 2013 3:34 pm
KL, some of those guys I named could do with squaring off against one another, true, but that’s not Wilder’s concern. He needs to fight steadily better opposition himself and this is his management’s job….unless he can knock everyone out all the way to the title.Posted September 23, 2013 2:29 pm
Ivan Jellical I knew everything you put in your post, but I am making the observation that none of the boxers you listed have faced each other, and some of those you listed like Mago is only just stepping up, unless you count an aging Mcline as a step up………and Boystov has not stepped up despite having 33 wins!
BRUCE THE W@NKER IS A BIGGER TW@T THAN THE BOTH OF THEM!!!Posted September 23, 2013 1:29 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
They’re both twats…Posted September 23, 2013 12:18 pm
Tyson Fury is a twat.Posted September 23, 2013 10:37 am
This injury to Haye was a tough break for everyone involved, the fighters, the fans, the local economy etc. Fury wanted this fight and it was a massive payday for him. I didn’t think he could win it, but he and his people thought they could. They wanted the fight, Mr. Collins.
KL, I don’t know if you know this, but David Price (half-Price as he’s known these days) had blown away Audley Harrison in something like 90 second of round number 1 before Wilder dropped the big wild rights on him. Martin Rogan had beaten Harrison in an 8 rounder, I think, previously. Now, Deontay needs to take on someone like Jennings who also beat Liakhovich previously and Fedosov. Wach has beaten a couple of half-decent names and took Wlad 12, shaking him once. He’s tough. Both sparred Haye. Wouldn’t blame Arreola for turning down Wilder at the moment. Abdusalamov has a fight with Perez coming up, hasn’t he? Afterwards, maybe. Chisora would be perfect for testing Deontay. Thompson only loses inside the distance to Wlad. He’d do. Solis beat Ray Austin, top amateur, had a weird loss to Vitali. That’s another one. Charr was going to take on Haye until Haye pulled out of that one. Lost to Vitali after sustaining a cut. He’d do. Mansour, old feller, getting on a bit. Perfect for Wilder then!!Posted September 23, 2013 7:19 am
Michael Collins is my new least-favorite ESB contributor. Horrible stuff.Posted September 22, 2013 11:13 pm
Nobody wants to have their head knocked clean off… Can’t blame them.Posted September 22, 2013 6:52 pm
Ivan let’s not forget Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaeferwanted Arreola to face Wilder next……but Arreola wasn’t interested.Posted September 22, 2013 12:17 pm
Ivan Jellical, yes we are all itching to see Wilder in with a good opponent, but by the same token take a look at the boxers you have named and tell me which of those has mixed it with each other?Posted September 22, 2013 12:00 pm
MICHAEL COLLINS: What nonsense is this you’re writing? Have you considered doing comedy on stage???? I really have never read such foolishness…..! Robbie TPosted September 22, 2013 10:24 am
Deontay Wilder needs to start finding better opponents. He must be running out of shopworn stiffs and faded names and joke guys like Harrison. Prizefighter is only fought over 3 rounds. Here’s some names for Wilder to consider: Chisora, Abdusalamov, Wach, Thompson, Boytsov, Jennings, Solis, Mansour, Charr, Fedosov.Posted September 22, 2013 7:46 am
DAVID”S LITTLE TOE. DONT SAY THINGS LIKE THAT,YOU WILL UPSET BILLY MUSLIM BOY.Posted September 22, 2013 7:41 am
De Lima I.
“The guy has beaten 27 bums and two totally shot fighters”
Well don’t blame DW — you should blame Golden boy!Posted September 22, 2013 7:37 am
David’s little toe
Hiya, David Haye’s little toe here! Me and Davey are really upset we have had to pull out of the fight next week, but it wasn’t my fault, it’s the eye this time! Hands, eyes, toes, we’re in a right old state, let me tell you! Davey is really gutted about it all. Oh dear!Posted September 22, 2013 7:26 am
how on earth did FM get on this thread too? Jeez, he’s a hundred pounds lighter than these guys, so why?Posted September 22, 2013 7:15 am
I’d like to see Haye Arreola.Posted September 22, 2013 7:14 am
I don’t see Fury taking on Wilder. Fury is positioning himself for bigger paydays and Wilder, while unproven, is dangerous at this point.Posted September 22, 2013 7:14 am
HAS HE PULLED OUT OF BIG BOTHER AS WELLPosted September 22, 2013 6:42 am
Anyone who thinks Haye doesn’t want this fight or done this deliberately hasn’t got a clue about boxing. He’s practically lost a winning lottery ticket losing a guaranteed £5 million purse. This after paying out for his training expenses etc I’m pretty sure he will be absolutely devastated. As for scared he faced a prime Wlad, a dangerous chisora so why on earth would he be scared of a limited fighter with little power such as fury?
KL – When they fought a full 12 rounder, Rogan beat Harrison, and I think he would provide ore of a test than Harrison. The Prizefighter format suits Harrison.Posted September 21, 2013 8:32 pm
Assyrian God you say “Even people like Pajkic, Rogan, Firtha, McDermott, Maddalone and Power etc are better than the shopworn and washed up versions of Harrison”————
Just prior to fighting Wilder, Harrison had just won “Prize Fighter” for the second time, a tournament in which Rogan Koed Sowsnowski, but then lost every round to Harrison, so not quite sure how you can say Rogan was better than Harrison.Posted September 21, 2013 8:24 pm
bringiton…, You’re an idiot.. You don’t get smaller on steroids. Haye trimmed down from 217 for Valuev to weighing 210 for his last few fights.. He’s smaller, stronger, faster, sleeker..
Most cruiserweights like Huck, Adamek, Mormek bulk up to 220 or more for heavyweights because they’re fighting guys 250.. Haye has taken the opposite view.. Maximum strength, minimum size, just like the other weight divisions.Posted September 21, 2013 8:19 pm
I think unless Wilder actually meets, fights and beats a few Second Tier heavyweights, it is very hard to state with any confidence that he would beat any Top Level heavyweight. I would put Wilder in with somebody like Wach next, he is big, hits hard and has a proven chin, likewise Arreola. Or Guinn, who is poor but very durable. Fury has mixed at a far higher level and at a far younger age than Wilder, he was beating the type of fighters Wilder was beating in his later twenties and in his 20th to 27th fights while still a teen and in his first 6 or 7 fights. USS Cunningham, Chisora and Johnson for examples, are light years above the level of Wilders opposition. Even people like Pajkic, Rogan, Firtha, McDermott, Maddalone and Power etc are better than the shopworn and washed up versions of Harrison and Liakhovitch who are by far Wilders best opponents.Posted September 21, 2013 8:08 pm
I’d also pick Wilder over Mago too.Posted September 21, 2013 7:57 pm
Joanna, I think in my opinion Wilder would beat all those second tier fighters you mention. I’m not confident that Wilder could beat all of the first tier fighters, but then again who apart from the K brothers be confident of that?
JOANNE Very valid points. Deontay is still a fighter ‘under construction, still a prospect with lots to prove. I believe he can defeat most of the 2nd tier fighters you mentioned but not quite ready for the likes of Arreola, Stiverne Wach, Solis, Abdusalamov.. A fight with Chisora sounds just about right.Posted September 21, 2013 7:54 pm
KL -Ok Wilder to prove himself Vs; Arreola, Thompson, Haye, Pulev, Fury, Stiverne, Wach, Solis, Chisora, Abdusalamov, Povetkin, Cunningham, even the tiny Adamek…..At the least even fights with live 2nd tier guys like Browne, Towers, Rogan, Travis Walker, Grano, Molina, Sexton, Oquiendo, Larsen or Teper would be a BIG step up.Posted September 21, 2013 7:39 pm
Okay you Wilder doubters, can you list a few boxers who Wilder would need to beat in order to shake off the “Fraud” label that you have given him.
Look Liahkovic wasn’t “shot to pieces”……..sure Jennings was better than Liahkovic, but Liahkovic was firing back and far from “shot to pieces.
The author of this article really should go away and learn about boxing.Posted September 21, 2013 7:19 pm
KL – Jennings is an inexperienced and small light hitter, SL was inactive and on a long losing streak. Until Wilder takes on at least 3 Top 20 guys, he shouldnt be name dropped as a top heavyweight. Fury is levels above Wilder, as his win list proves, Wilder has proven nothing other than a hard punch, Travis Walker or David Price coulve probably wiped out those guys just as easily.Posted September 21, 2013 7:16 pm
Bryant Jennings cant punch though, he makes Malik Scott look like Earnie Shavers! Liakhovich was just a punchbag vs Jennings anyhow, he hasnt won a fight in like 5 years, and Harrison got blown out by Price in 1 just before Deontay the Ducker repeated it. Harrison and Liakhovich were shot to pieces, u just cant spin those wins into signature fights. FACT is, EVERYONE in the top 25 has better wins on their resue than Wilder, the guy is a FRAUD like Farouq Saleem a few years back.Posted September 21, 2013 7:11 pm
hit and slip, I still think you are making too much of the age number……yes in 10 years time Fury will only be 34……..but that doesn’t mean that Fury will still be competitive. Given how Fury has performed in the last few years, it’s pretty certain that Fury will get tagged badly plenty of times in the next 5 years……let alone 10.
Joanna, Jennings threw everything but the kitchen sink at Liahkovic, but couldn’t put him down, and Liahkovic was still firing back at Jennings……so Liahkovic wasn’t quite as “shot” as you make out!Posted September 21, 2013 6:45 pm
WILDER IS A FRAUD – The guy has beaten 27 bums and two totally shot fighters, least Fury has stepped up and beaten guys way ahead of Wilders ”foes”…The writr of this garbage piece is garbage too!Posted September 21, 2013 6:32 pm
Actually NOBODY pulled out. Cuts happen, what part of that don’t many understand. It’s happened on BIGGER stages. GENUINE fractured hands, broken ribs, busted hands, car accidents and GENUINE CUTS!! This is a LEGIT postponement.Posted September 21, 2013 6:28 pm
lol i told you all what haye would do another excuse like with klitchko, and char not his shoulder or his toe this time thou its his eye well its saved him from fury ko ing him hayes a joke he doesnt need to go into films he needs to go into comedy lmfaoPosted September 21, 2013 6:27 pm
If it had beenTyson Fury who had pulled out, this site would be full of window-lickers saying Fury was scared. Complete tools.Posted September 21, 2013 6:06 pm
Bollocks to the authorPosted September 21, 2013 5:56 pm
Honestly, Fury does have some talent and he’s good for the sport. Has people talking about boxing, regardless of whether the comments are negative or positive. I was looking forward to this fight, still am. Although Fury is already talking about moving on I doubt that he’ll simply walk away from his BEST possible payday. He might be ‘flexing his might’ looking for extra perk$. Economically this situation doesn’t benefit either fighter. They need eachother. Although I believe that Haye will win, Fury is young and can come back, maybe even a rematch down the line, time will tell. Peace to all!Posted September 21, 2013 5:46 pm
If the money’s good, and it probably will be, they’ll find a stand in opponent for Fury by next week. Many tickets have already been sold, the fight is scheduled to be televised in the UK and the US, and Hughie is slated to fight on the undercard. This wasn’t Fury’s fault, so they can bill it as a legitimate stay busy bout for Tyson who hasn’t fought for 5 months.Posted September 21, 2013 5:26 pm
hit and slip
KL….I think he could have a good 10years ahead of him.He would only be 34years old which is still pretty young. Now ofcourse I know if he gets into some real dragged out wars this would change. But also Fury seems like one of those tough pikey types where its going to take alot for him to fold up.These type of guys have that macho tough guy mind set,that ofcourse can really help in boxing.Really its a number game and without a crystall ball its hard to say…but in 10yrs only being 34 it could happen without being imposible.Posted September 21, 2013 5:17 pm
too bad haye was not wearing headgear. ?Posted September 21, 2013 5:13 pm
Is it possible that the fighters had an insurance policy against this sort of injury related postponement happening (my opponent received a serious cut during training, so now my policy must pay off)?Posted September 21, 2013 4:57 pm
hit and slip, you REALLY think Fury has 10 years prime fighting in him??
hit and slip
boomboy…I wasnt to crazy about Fury at first.But I see a guy getting better in his fights filling out his frame,in a good way that is.And a guy whos movements and ring IQ is improving with a nice jab to work off of.And ofcourse with the hvwt div not really a super skilled div bursting with talent and Fury so young and improving this all works in his favor.Im not going to be shocked if he picks up a world belt down the line.Unless ofcourse out of nowhere comes a young Mike Tyson,a young Ali,a young W.Klit, a young L.L. But at this rate he has alot of things on his side.Posted September 21, 2013 4:54 pm
Hit and slip I’ve seen fury right thru from the early amateurs and trust me he’s not and will never be world class.
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
plus ihat two sentenced plank gordenweed chokes your chicken4u!!!Posted September 21, 2013 4:05 pm
BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY
@anonymous! for two pricks you seem to take a lot of interest!you w@nker!!! anonymous bruce!!! tosserPosted September 21, 2013 4:01 pm
hit and slip
boomboy…Yes Fury said people are buying it to see me k.o. And Ali said the same thing people are coming to my fights to see me k.o. But ofcourse that dosent mean its going to happen thats just what the people want to see thats what their paying for,happening is something else.So Fury doesnt beat the k-bros at this time,and maybe not 32yr old Pulev…but maybe he does beat Pulev whos not real special overall.So maybe Fury is anywhere from top 5 to top 8 not bad for a 24yr old guy in a field of hvwts all around 28yrs to 33yrs old in the higher realms in the div.Fury has a good 10yrs of prime fighting in him,I would say thats a pretty good looking future for him.Posted September 21, 2013 4:00 pm
I CANT BELIEVE SOME OF YOU,YOUR REALLY GONNA PAY TO WATCH THESE TWO PRICKS.Posted September 21, 2013 3:50 pm
John Digby you haven’t got a clue about boxingPosted September 21, 2013 3:49 pm
This guy is acting like Haye is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If Haye got cut just by sparring, Fury would have destroyed him. They use 14 oz gloves and head gear when sparring. Somebody was really beating the crap out of Haye. Fury should find out who beat the crap out of Haye and fight him.
Haye needs to retire.Posted September 21, 2013 3:46 pm
Listen let’s have it right, Tyson Fury is only involved in this massive pay per view event, because he’s talked himself into it.
Dwc, you could be right, but I see key differences between Price & Wilder………both had huge eye catching power, but Wilder has better hand speed than Price. The other big difference is the mental outlooks of both men,prior to his fights Thompson, Price was interviewed and he said himself that it was only recently that he believed he was good enough to become world champ, Wilder on the other hand exudes self belief and confidence. Price was mentally fragile, but there don’t seem to be any of the same signals of mental fragility and self doubt about Wilder.
K.L….Wilder could be another Price a guy with athletic looking abilty,strong power,but has career ending flaws.In fact Price looked like he had more abilty in stance, basic skills then any of the new hvwts. but became helpless in deep water.Im not saying Wilder might not be the next big thing…but theres much to prove first.Who Wilder fights in his next fight will show how positive him and his team are at this point.There are many good fights next for him to make a real statement..C.A…Boystov..Pulev..Thompson..or even a limited but tough guy like Margo.Again its a lets see situation…Posted September 21, 2013 3:02 pm
WITH PRICKS LIKE THESE TWO,BOXING IS NOW A CIRCUS.Posted September 21, 2013 2:47 pm
dwc I don’t view Wilder as “limited”………..we all know (Even the Wilder doubters know) that he hits about as hard as anyone in the division, and let’s not forget only about a year ago many doubted that Wilder had genuine power and that his weak opponents made him look as if he had power.Wilder has since proved that he does have genuine power.Now his doubters are focusing on whether Wilder’s chin can take a punch……although I think much more important is what defensive skills Wilder brings to his game, rather than whether his chin holds up. If Wilder has good defense then a weak chin is not the end of the line for Wilder. (Haye and Wlad both have relatively weak chins, but they both have done well because they avoid getting hit too much.
RAY has the beat!!!!!Posted September 21, 2013 2:27 pm
We get it Michael Collins, you hate Tyson. Well it wasn’t Tyson who pulled out. If Tyson had pulled out, you would have assassinated his character again. Doesn’t have the chin? I don’t think Tyson has ever been knocked cold like Hayes. Also, in Hayes’ biggest fight, he ran for 12 rounds and made a lame excuse at the end why he wouldn’t engage. Haye would have done the same against Tyson.Posted September 21, 2013 2:02 pm
ignore Tark – he’s a card-carrying fool and homo.
My feeling is that Haye put himself in harm’s way deliberately. Not that he tried to get cut (and fyi you non-boxers one can be cut even with a helmet) rather, he was in a fatalistic mode, “if a knee blows or a cut comes … then it does.” That sort of thinking.
K.L….Prehaps…but untill the strong but limited looking Wilder makes that leap,we will have to see who he really fights,and how he looks in deep water.His next fight should speak volumes on where he is as a fighter…lets see.Posted September 21, 2013 1:53 pm
Calazaghe was super good when he fought. I like Fury too!Posted September 21, 2013 1:45 pm
hit and slip
Fury has a built in excuse…what a jerk this writer is.Fury was ready for the fight saturday night its fragile sissy big toe Haye who always has a excuse…my hand cant fight Charr..my toe was hurt with k-bro. now sparring got to rough…cant blame team Fury if they dont want to fight me..wink..wink..say no more.I see more excuses coming from Haye then Fury over their careers…..Posted September 21, 2013 1:44 pm
dwc I think you are wrong about Wilder, sure Wilder took his time but I think that Wilder will be looking to get in with bigger names pretty soon……..and if he had enough time to prep himself I think Wilder would have taken a Fury fight next if it was offered to him.Posted September 21, 2013 1:43 pm
Fury stands a good chance of winning I think a lot of people will be surprised on how much fury has improved he gets better with each fight,but saying that I still think its too early for hate but if fight dose happen ( I don’t think either fighter wants the fight to be canceled) I think haye will win on points! Yes I said it I think we have be sold another dud both fighters will fight defensive and take little risk but haye will do enough to win
Posted September 21, 2013 1:16 pm
AGREEDPosted September 21, 2013 1:39 pm
Calzaghe was an awesome fighter!!!Posted September 21, 2013 1:36 pm
Tark…100% agreed.Fury had a good chance,if he got past the 4th rd. Fury was looking at a legit upset I belive.And dont think Haye knew he had a easy fight…because if it was so easy why was he sparring so hard so close to this huge money fight.As for Wilder it took him almost 30 fights before he would face Harrison,to get in the ring with Fury now…dont think so,maybe after 50 fights.Posted September 21, 2013 1:32 pm
Getting injuries these days, David. At least it’s not his little toe!!Posted September 21, 2013 1:29 pm
Lack of heart…exactly…David could learn a thing or two from Calzaghe…Posted September 21, 2013 1:23 pm
Fury stands a good chance of winning I think a lot of people will be surprised on how much fury has improved he gets better with each fight,but saying that I still think its too early for hate but if fight dose happen ( I don’t think either fighter wants the fight to be canceled) I think haye will win on points! Yes I said it I think we have be sold another dud both fighters will fight defensive and take little risk but haye will do enough to winPosted September 21, 2013 1:16 pm
Michael Collins says.., “Does anyone really think that the 6’9″, fragile-chinned Fury had any actual chance to beat Haye in this fight?”
You damned RIGHT he had “an actual chance” to beat Haye. As far as being fragile chinned? Fury takes a good punch. Was he ever down??? Was Muhammad Ali down, and almost out, from a shot from 185-pound Henry Cooper? Yeah. You get hit smack on the chin by a 210lb Heavyweight, and even if you stand 6’9″ X 250 you go down. The thing is, do you get up and win? So far Tyson Fury has done nothing but win.
Haye is favored to win this contest. He isn’t a prohibitive favorite. He was cut in sparring. Foreman was cut in sparring preparing for his Ali fight.
Postpone the fight and set a new date. It’s a great fight. Let’s not kill it.
As far as Fury fighting Deontay Wilder instead of Haye??? That’s about as likely as Sergio Martinez getting into a ring with Grennady Golovkin.Posted September 21, 2013 1:08 pm
david haye is an outright bum a fraud and a coward who had no chance thats why he is ducking tyson fury this fight will never happenPosted September 21, 2013 12:48 pm
Right! Haye is chickenPosted September 21, 2013 12:48 pm
Boxing Barlow………if the delay is only 6 weeks then Fury won’t have a “stay busy” fight, but if the delay is many months then Fury will want to pick a credible opponent.Posted September 21, 2013 12:35 pm
When David fought Wladimir, he ran away the whole fight…Posted September 21, 2013 12:24 pm
As a boxer I think Haye is pure class. as a fighter its where I question him. He’s got KO power but in the Vlad fight his plan was to outbox him and win on points. When this didsnt happen he never threw everything at it and tried to get the KO, and rather took the decision loss rather than risk getting knocked out. That shows lack of heart in my book.Posted September 21, 2013 12:20 pm
Nah I think given the circumstances at such short notice, If you are talking a stay active fight with a view to fighting Haye in 6 weeks Fury can pick who he wants.Posted September 21, 2013 12:17 pm
There are too many David groupies who seem to think that he has done something very impressive, which he hasn’t!!Posted September 21, 2013 12:17 pm
I dont think Haye is much if any better than Cunningham or Kevin Johnston
Wilder would whip Fury and Haye in the same night
Posted September 21, 2013 11:32 am
you must be in ala land with Alice Jesus!Posted September 21, 2013 12:12 pm
boxing barlow, the problem being Fury has to pick a good named opponent at this stage of his career even for a “stay busy” fight, other wise he won’t be well received by boxing fans…….and that’s one thing about Fury, he doesn’t like to get slated by the fans .
Exactly! Thats why the fight WILL happen. The only thing that may come into play is that Fury will take a lesser opponent who he is guarenteed to win against to remian active. A Mat Skelton for example. Will keep him active, give him a small pay day to tie him over, and give Haye time for his cut to heal.Posted September 21, 2013 12:00 pm
Boxing Barlow, there’s no doubt there was huge interest in this fight, although the majority of fans and pundits had Haye as the winner.
This gives Fury a way out. Watch him run now and this fight will never happen.Posted September 21, 2013 11:52 am
This fight WILL happen. There is too much money in it for both fighters. Neither can make a 5th of the money they will out of this fight fighting anyone else (Klits exluded)Posted September 21, 2013 11:46 am
What stupid comments by this writer. There is tons of interest in this fight and Fury was looking at making 5 million quid for this fight. If Fury is so rubbish as this writer thinks then how is it a good move to go back to risking his career against lesser opposition for pennies compared to what he would have been paid for in this fight.Posted September 21, 2013 11:44 am
Wilder vs Fury would be a good clash, but I’ve a feeling Fury would not want to waste his training and switch to fighting a bigger guy like Wilder, more likely Fury wants someone of similar size to Haye………Charr or Adamek or even the somewhat reluctant Boystov would be good opponents.Posted September 21, 2013 11:38 am
I dont think Haye is much if any better than Cunningham or Kevin Johnston
Wilder would whip Fury and Haye in the same nightPosted September 21, 2013 11:32 am
So you think that a fight with Wilder is a safer fight for Fury than David Haye? Uh….smhPosted September 21, 2013 11:29 am