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TARK

I already told them… They’re a little slow

Posted September 26, 2013 4:04 pm 


Tark = Ramsey

You tell em Tarky.

Posted September 26, 2013 7:53 am 


TARK

Adrian.., Thompson was knocked down by green as grass David Price… He was beaten by Kubrat Pulev, who seemed really crude, couldn’t throw a tight left hook, and didn’t even seem to be trying very hard… Thompson was knocked out twice by Wladimir Klitschko.

If Wilder gets hold of him… Thompson goes TFO, the victim of wicked right handers that his southpaw stance is made-to-order for.

Make no mistake about it … and ignore stupid a**holes like Idiot Ernie and the hole sniffing anonymou$

Posted September 25, 2013 7:27 pm 


Anonymou$

right Ernie

Posted September 25, 2013 3:43 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Wait a while and the Tard will post Thompson could win also…

Posted September 25, 2013 2:13 am 


Adrian

Uhhh tark I respect your oppinions but I think you are way off when you say wilder would smash Thompson in 5 rounds …. No one smashes Thompson he looks easy to beat but very few could ….

Posted September 24, 2013 11:10 pm 


TARK

Wilder would smash Thompson… That fight wouldn’t go 5 rounds.

Posted September 24, 2013 5:24 pm 


BLUESMAN

@ AssyrianGod: TRUTH! And I think Thompson could outbox Wilder to boot. That’d be a good ‘un.

Posted September 24, 2013 2:26 am 


AssyrianGod

The other potential problem for Wilder is stamina. Often fighters who are used to rolling people over easily gas out when a bout is either tough or goes into the later rounds. David Price was exhausted after 4 ”relatively” high intensity rounds with Thompson.

Posted September 24, 2013 2:20 am 


BLUESMAN

@ KL: You do have a good point my friend. After all, Lennox Lewis didn’t have the greatest chin in the world by any means, BUT, he had excellent defensive skills and an excellent jab. Lennox reminded me of a larger version of Larry Holmes. Yes, it WILL be interesting to see if Wilder has the defensive skills he needs. My take on it is this: Wilder got knocked down by someone named Harold Sconiers, who had a record of 17-20-2 at the time they fought. Yes, Wilder got up and KO’ed Sconiers, and maybe it was just a lucky punch. I’d like to see Deontay do well. But if GREAT defensive boxers like Larry Holmes and Lennox Lewis can be decked, then I think WIlder will be at some point in time. This of course raises another crucial question: Does Deontay have the HEART that it takes to make it & get up from a knockdown scored by a legitimate, tested contender? Good talking with you KL. Have a good week.

Posted September 24, 2013 12:27 am 


KL

By the way I think Boystov is going for the title of over protected heavyweight…..his last fight was against a 11 fight novice!

Posted September 23, 2013 8:42 pm 


KL

elbilly, Golden Boy Richard Schaefer wanted Arreola next……so I guess they are shedding their “protection” of Wilder.

Posted September 23, 2013 8:40 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Thanks, TARK. It just seems a little strange to me that Haye would be sparring hard and going full-speed 7 days before a huge fight. Especially considering that he’s said that he stops sparring about 10 days out.

Maybe he changed-up his routine for this fight and maybe it was Wilder who ripped him? Who knows. But it would be nice to find out more details about how it happened.

Posted September 23, 2013 6:54 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

The Tard wrote”Squared Circle.., “Sure, cuts can happen at any time during sparring/training.” … That is a correct comment.”

Wow, what insight, simply amazing…

Posted September 23, 2013 6:06 pm 


JJ

Haye withdrew from the fight, not Fury. Pulled out of the Charr fight too, so it’s getting to be a habit for him. Maybe if David schedules a fight with Boytsov, BOTH can pull out simultaneously!

Posted September 23, 2013 3:58 pm 


Da UnKnown Comic

Fury don’t want none…

Posted September 23, 2013 2:52 pm 


KL

BLUESMAN people seem to be obsessed as to whether Wilder can take a punch or not……..but I think that’s the wrong question, the question should be does Wilder have good defensive skills, even Wilder says he doesn’t intend to get hit to find out if he can take a punch.
I’ve heard some silly comments from some people about how they could tell from Wilder’s fight with Liahkovich that he “doesn’t like to get punched”……….yeah because every heavyweight just loves to get punched !!!!

Posted September 23, 2013 1:35 pm 


Boxstramundo

I love Deontay.

Posted September 23, 2013 10:37 am 


Overated

Thats a rediculous idea due to the fact that a high percentage of payperview subscribers and ticket holders are haye fans. So i cant imagine they will want to pay to watch wilder v fury or any other replacement.

Posted September 23, 2013 10:28 am 


Anonymous

DONT WORRY HAYE FANS HE WILL BE BACK TO TAKE YOUR PPV MONEY NEXT YEAR.

Posted September 23, 2013 9:39 am 


Ingleberry

PPV figures in the UK have been slow…Haye is a prizefighter and there aint no prize!

Posted September 23, 2013 8:56 am 


jackson

but that also makes me wonder if the repair job was done that way just to make it look worse than it was….after that photograph we all saw did he then go to an ER and have it properly sewn up….?

Posted September 23, 2013 3:05 am 


jackson

they did a terrible job of closing the cut, it looks like it was done in the gym. by the way its pulling apart its plain there are no deeper (SQ) sutures to draw it together. if this had been done the sutures on top would have been used for matching up the edges. and there should have been more, finer, sutures on top so that a few dont have to bear the burden, leaving ugly gaps inbetween. if you do it that way–like the way it was done for haye–you will have an unsightly railroad track scar, and it will be easier to open up at a later date. i cant believe a rich professional had a laceration repaired that poorly…..

Posted September 23, 2013 3:03 am 


TARK

Squared Circle.., “Sure, cuts can happen at any time during sparring/training.” … That is a correct comment.

Therefore Haye is not at fault here unless we know it happened in hard sparring.. Anything could have caused the cut.. I sparred as close as 4 days out from a fight.. Light sparring for speed and reflexes and overall winding down the intensity of training.

If you get cut like that 10 days out you still can’t make the date.

Posted September 23, 2013 2:25 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Turb0-H@mster: Excellent point and thanks for directing me to that interview!

Haye has specifically said that he stops sparring about a week-and-a-half before a fight in order to avoid getting cut. Here’s a direct quote from an interview he did with askmen.com

David Haye: “Sparring starts for me six or seven weeks before the fight, and then I stop about ten days before the fight because I don’t want to get marked up or cut, anything like that.”

Sure, cuts can happen at any time during sparring/training, but this seems like a particularly unusual situation given the time frame and Haye’s comments about his fight preparations. Good thing it’s not a severe cut, so IMO Team Fury should just keep training and wait it out — even if it’s 6-8 weeks.

Posted September 23, 2013 1:42 am 


TARK

The cut could have been one of those weird head knocks you can get even with the best head gear on… I once saw a trainer catch a boxer with his focus pad while they were working the mitts.. A monster cut happened and blood spurted all over the place.. I ran the boxer over to a clinic immedately to get stiched up and it took 30 tiny stiches.

The way Vitali Klitschko had his jagged cuts closed up??? That’s what you want.. So nobody can even tell by looking at you that you were ever cut.. I’m not really too sure about the closure of Haye’s cut.. Same with Danny Garcia.. The scar on his forehead from Zab’s butt really stands out.

Posted September 23, 2013 1:10 am 


TARK

Hamster.., “How long will those twig legs hold Wilder up?”

Those twigs will work pretty well to hold him up. He’s a gym rat so they’re very strong … Now does Wilder have a Tommy Hearns’ chin???

All those heavyweights are waiting for somebody else to prove he does… They’re not to anxious to find out themselves… Although I do believe Chisora would be willing to play the guinea pig role.. He already signed to meet Wilder once, but legal problems for Wilder prevented the clash.

Posted September 23, 2013 12:59 am 


Turb0-H@mster

@Squared-Circle…and it is also in contrast to what Haye says his usual buildup is. You can google a Haye interview with askmen.com on fight preparation, and he does say he specifically stops 10 days out to avoid getting marked up or cut.

Looks like he was just being an idiot.

It is a strange cut though – vertical, and sliced without much bruising like he has caught the edge of the glove at a very strange angle.

Posted September 23, 2013 12:55 am 


BLUESMAN

@ KL: Yes, I agree with you with regard to Wilder’s power & speed- no doubt. I’m just in doubt as to whether he can take a punch or not. From what I’ve seen on eastsideboxing.com forums & articles, many seem reluctant to fight Wilder because of his power and seemingly good athletic ability. I’d really like to him fight Bryant Jennings or Andy Ruiz in a crossroads prospects fight.

Posted September 23, 2013 12:35 am 


Adrian

Peej”Not a big fan of Haye but the man got cut and he showed pictures of his cut. Happens, its training.”

How nice of you too admit that …I thought it was a skill to cut boxers ?i mean Lewis got a win be ause of that skill right? If we ask you lewis was a better fighter against vitally because he manage to cut him and points shouldn’t matter … Lol

Posted September 23, 2013 12:35 am 


BLUESMAN

@ Nameless: Thanks buddy.

Posted September 23, 2013 12:29 am 


Turb0-H@mster

I`ve got no doubt that Wilder can KO Chisora should he land clean with Chisora on his way in.

Can Wilder do anything with Chisora on his chest, pushing him around, staying busy with bodyshots?
Chisora will do that for 12 rounds – how many rounds can Wilder take that for if his home runs aren`t landing? How long will those twig legs hold him up?

I`d be that much more confident of Wilders ability if he`d at least moved up to facing C level fighters after 20 fights, but he didn`t, he kept barrel scraping, while guys like Chisora, Pulev, Adamek and Fury actually went out and took some risks to position themselves in the top 10.

He thinks he can take the elevator instead of climbing the ladder like everyone else.

Posted September 22, 2013 10:04 pm 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

david haye had adam booth hit him in the head with a miniature baseball bat he did this to avoid the beating he would have sustained if he stepped into the ring with tyson fury david haye is a fraud and a malingering stumblebum

Posted September 22, 2013 8:04 pm 


jackson

fury should walk away. haye pulls out of half his fights…its not worth the time and effort to sign a fight with him. if he cant fight with injuries, he needs to retire. wilder wont make the step up to fury if hes refused to fight chisora. you can foget that. azgtllu ca n

Posted September 22, 2013 7:58 pm 


TARK

Any day Chisora gets into a ring with Wilder is a day he’s getting KO’d.

Posted September 22, 2013 6:48 pm 


huckster

Pulev should be next in line with wlad. Pulev has done his time.

Posted September 22, 2013 5:26 pm 


Nicolas

It is wishful thinking on Mr. Slaer’s part, while in the past such a thing might have happened some thirty years ago, in today’s age it just doesn’t seem to transpire. While I would have to favor Fury n such a fight, I think that for both men the risk to their box office potential would get hurt, and probably sadly their egos. In the case of Bert Cooper, he as not given much of a chance against Hollyfield, and it was a good payday for him at the time. Of course thre was the time that Vitali Klitschko took the place of Kirt Johnson against Lennox Lewis, and credit to both men for making that fight happen, but I don’t think it was at such short notice.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:19 pm 


Vlad the Impaler

As a side note, what a tough mother that Pollack Wach is. Klitschko couldn’t drop him, Haye couldn’t hurt him.. Wow.

Posted September 22, 2013 12:24 pm 


Vlad the Impaler

I’m excited about Haye, Wilder, Stiverne, Fury, Pulev, and Jennings fighting each other. Make the match-ups and sort it out!

Posted September 22, 2013 12:22 pm 


Hidalgo

“How on earth could Haye get a serious cut over an eye when he should’ve been wearing state-of-the-art fully protective headgear…”

Well, at least it wasn’t his big toe, Squared Circle. :)

Posted September 22, 2013 12:14 pm 


PEEJ

Not a big fan of Haye but the man got cut and he showed pictures of his cut. Happens, its training. If this fight is rescheduled he is still going to KO Fury before 5.

Posted September 22, 2013 12:02 pm 


Anonymous

Never happen….ever

Posted September 22, 2013 11:56 am 


KL

BLUESMAN, whilst we all want to see what defensive skills Wilder brings to his game, his speed and power are not in doubt.
Fellow boxers like Haye and Fraudley that have used Wilder for say he hits very hard.

Posted September 22, 2013 11:53 am 


Kid Blast

Bill it as “Wild Fury.”

Posted September 22, 2013 10:34 am 


EZ E

SQUARED CIRCLE It only takes one punch to cause a cut like that. For those that have been around gyms long enough this is nothing new. It is COMMON fighters do get in their last sparring sessions in a week before and then taper off. Yes, he should’ve protected himself better IF in fact he wore no headgear. Cuts happen. I’m NOT a Mr. Know-it-all authority but for anyone to consider this deliberate cut on Haye’s part is ahhh… not too experienced around gyms, training nor fighters, IMHO.

Posted September 22, 2013 10:09 am 


EZ E

Why am I getting a “duplicated Comment” notice if my comment never was posted??

Posted September 22, 2013 9:58 am 


rod

We would all love to see Fury fight Wilder but I doubt it would happen.

Posted September 22, 2013 9:34 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

No way did Haye intentionally injure himself; I’ll never believe that he did.

Posted September 22, 2013 9:13 am 


nameless

BLUESMAN, point taken.

Posted September 22, 2013 9:06 am 


Anonymous

Is it wrong as an English man to want wilder to KO both Haye and Fury??Deontay seems to get a bum wrap hes KOd all comers that’s all he can do,and in doing so he’s in the who needs him club.I bet Del Boys got the plums to go for him tho!

Posted September 22, 2013 8:49 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

How on earth could Haye get a serious cut over an eye when he should’ve been wearing state-of-the-art fully protective headgear than thoroughly protects both eyes and across the bridge of the nose??? He also should’ve been sparring with 14-16oz gloves and not going 100%. I understand that these training injuries happen from time to time, but it’s unusual, untimely occurrence at this level — one week before a major fight.

Sounds like pure reckless stupidity on Haye’s part or just another lame, injury excuse to pull out of a big fight at the 11th hour. Unfortunately, this has become an ongoing pattern with Haye — a fighter who said he wanted to retire at 30-years-old.

Fury should be patient and put this fight on hold, continue to cut weight and train like an animal, and wait until Haye is ready to go. Fury shouldn’t have to think about fighting Wilder or anyone else at this point. Six stitches is generally not a sign of a severe cut, so Haye should be able to heal rather quickly — within 4-6 weeks.

Let’s keep our eyes on the prize boys, and not get sidetracked by this minor set back. Fury vs. Haye — “The Battle of Britain” — needs to be settled before either man agrees to fight anyone else. Real talk!

Posted September 22, 2013 8:32 am 


Tony1244

If the story is true that Haye was sparring 2 weeks out without headgear, he really is too stupid to be a boxer.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:49 am 


Anonymous

I CANT BELIEVE HBO HAVENT SIGNED UP HAYE,HE IS MADE FOR MODERN TV,ALL HYPE NO CLASS.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:30 am 


Hosteen

Wilder woukd much much rather fight someone like Bruce Seldon instead o anf undefeated contender

Posted September 22, 2013 7:29 am 


Exiled Yank

Tark – I didn’t know that either.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:10 am 


Exiled Yank

wilder needs to fight a warm body. I don’t know of a more padded record in boxing today.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:07 am 


Manuel Mendez

and what about David el nino Rodriguez, an undefeated fighter that can take on everyone in the top ten and punish them.

Posted September 22, 2013 7:06 am 


BLUESMAN

@ Nameless: I’m not completely sold on Wilder’s power yet. So far he’s fought tomato cans of the highest degree. When Sam Peter was coming up, people were saying the same thing about his unbelievable punching power. While I’m a Sam Peter fan, in the end, Peter’s power was exposed to a degree when he fought some good fighters. Another thing about Wilder; he got knocked down by someone named Harold Sconiers, who had a record of 17-20-2. So I’m not sold on Wilder yet.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:38 am 


BLUESMAN

@ TARK: That’s a shame, man. Didn’t know Wilder called Fury out. What about Chisora? Has Wilder called him out? That might be a good ‘un. I’d like to see Wilder fight Bryant Jennings or Andy Ruiz. But has he called them out too?

Posted September 22, 2013 4:31 am 


nameless

Nobody can take Wilder’s power, if this guy connects, you’re out. Wilder is the closest thing to superman.

Posted September 22, 2013 4:00 am 


TARK

BLUESMAN.., Wilder called Fury and Arrelola both out.. No response.. He’s called out several contenders in fact.. Nobody has stepped up yet.

Posted September 22, 2013 3:53 am 


TARK

Exploding… You’re an idiot.

All those injuries happened moron.. The point is Haye didn’t deliberately injure himself to chicken out, like some idiots suggest. Injuries happen all the time and can happen to anyone.

Posted September 22, 2013 3:49 am 


Anonymous

joanneBugner

STFU !!!!

Posted September 22, 2013 3:30 am 


BLUESMAN

Wilder needs to face Fury. Fury isn’t the greatest things since sliced bread by any means, BUT, unlike the rest of the people Wilder has faced, he’s actually a live body. Step it up Wilder and face Fury.

Posted September 22, 2013 1:27 am 


Yama Bahama

Fury may sign in short order with Hasim Rahman. Hasim probably weighs 297 now.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:55 pm 


wilder sucks

gutted.

Posted September 21, 2013 11:17 pm 


The Way Of The Exploding Fist

TARK says

Did Vitali suffer four (4) fight postponing injuries in a row while preparing for Hasim Rahman???

No.

”Did Ali suffer a hernia 3 days before his first title defense against Sonny Liston???

No, it was 5 days but by all means you carry on telling everyone it was 3 if it helps you get to sleep at night.

”Was Foreman cut, postponing the “Rumble in the Jungle” with Ali?”

Yes.

Did Froch hurt his back and need a postponement of his Arthur Abraham fight?”

Not sure about this one. Possibly.

”Did Calzaghe hurt his wrist and need a postponement of his Roy Jones fight?”

Yes I think this is true.

”Did Lamont Peterson bust up Floyd’s ribs, causing a long postponement of his Marquez fight?”

No.

”Did Wladimir suffer two (2) abdominal tears, postponing his fight with Dereck Chisora twice?”

This is true.

”Injuries happen”

Agreed.

”This isn’t Heaven we’re living in.”

It’s not Hell either, what’s your point?

Posted September 21, 2013 10:45 pm 


Pinhead

When did boxing fans turn into a load of old gossips, this is boxing and getting cut in soarring happens, who are we to question the timing, we will never ………NEVER…..see what goes on in a training camp, these guys were going for it, and they are not that good as to put on a show and an act as to have something else planned other than the fight next saturday. Holyfield VS Tyson was put back a coupld of times if I remember correctly….it happens. Everyone id p8SSed but just be patient, it will be back on, and it will be worth it, these men deserve a lot more credit thatn they ever get from you lot.

Posted September 21, 2013 10:01 pm 


Master Ken

Lennox Lewis did this sort of thing when he decided to fight Vitali Klitschko instead of Kirk Johnson.. But sadly, Fury doesn’t have the balls that Vitali and Lennox ever had.

Posted September 21, 2013 9:59 pm 


flatlander

I quit reading right after the words “Big and Exciting” This fight was neither.

Posted September 21, 2013 9:37 pm 


KL

Hit and slip you said “Wilder seems to call out guys who are already in contrac”———–

Arreola wasn’t in a contract, and but Wilder called him out.

Posted September 21, 2013 9:01 pm 


KL

Perez,Johnson,Walker have entered the Prize Fighter tournament too.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:57 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

To a guy with a hammer everything is a nail.

That is Wilders problem, he swings at everything. Often just wide, silly and off balance.

Watch the video of his sparring with Haye and Wilder looks really amateur.

Sometimes the hammer lands – and I am sure Wilder can get a couple of very nice results, but it isn`t going to take the highest skill level in the world to make him look foolish.

It`s a shame Eddie Chambers left heavy, I would have fancied him to outpoint WIlder and make him look clumsy. Jennings is probably well capable of it if he can take a shot or two.

Fury is a good target for him though, Fury has MASSIVE mental lapses.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:56 pm 


Ned

Accident or not, Haye’s going to have a tough time finding rated opponents and being taken seriously. There’s a definite trend here: the toe injury, then the hand, and now a cut over the eye. I don’t think team Fury ever wants a match up again; the same thing could happen. As for Fury, he’s got to get back in the ring and soon. There’s been too much time wasted as a result of this nonsense.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:56 pm 


JOEY

IF IT GOES DOWN ANY MORE,I CAN SEE GEORGE FOREMAN COMING BACK.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:54 pm 


Anonymous

PRIZE FIGHTER,THATS ALL THESE BUMS ARE FIT FOR.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:40 pm 


KL

Sure it was a 3 round format but, you don’t win a Prize Fighter tournament if you are totally shop worn, so whilst I’ll admit Fraudley is no world beater……..I don’t think he was quite as “shop worn” as some people were making out…….and the same argument goes for Liahkovic, yes seen better days, but not soo shot that any old heavy weight can blast these guys out within 1 round.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:35 pm 


AssyrianGod

KL – Yup, but that was the 3 round Prizefighter tourney, which format Harrison is weirdly good at. When they fought a 12 rounder Rogan beat him. I’d bet on Wilder to beat Rogan, but Rogan is ”fairly” durable, pressures fighters and hits quite hard, and i’d like to see Wilder face a few fighters like that.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:30 pm 


KL

Assyrian God you do know that Harrison beat Rogan just prior to fighting Wilder don’t you?

Posted September 21, 2013 8:26 pm 


AssyrianGod

Tark, Boystov is another fighter who never seems to take a challenge. There’s little point in Wilder trying to get a fight with people like Pulev, Haye or Fury, because they are higher ranked than him and jockeying for a world title tilt, so they would gain nothing by it, it doesnt further their aims. He should target the likes of Wach, Solis, Stiverne or Chisora. Even a ”live” second rater like Rogan, Larsen, Takam, Towers or Walker would be something. Or for the sake of livening up the division in the USA, a fight with Thompson, Jennings, Cunningham or Arreola.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:19 pm 


KL

I’ve been saying that Liahkovic although past his prime wasn’t as “shot” as many made him out to be……..Jennings threw the kitchen sink at Liahkovic and Liahkovic was firing back up till the final rounds of the 9 rounds fought……and Jennings couldn’t put the man down.
Liahkovich in my opinion would have beaten Gerber tonight.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:14 pm 


KL

Wake me up when “I’m not ready for Chisora” Boystov accepts a fight with anyone of note!

Posted September 21, 2013 8:10 pm 


TARK

AssyrianGod…, They’ve been trying to match Wilder with Fury, Chisora, Boytsov, and other top heavyweights… It’s not like they’re not ready to move up. Opponents are reluctant.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:04 pm 


TARK

Bugner says, “Wilder hasnt even fought a guy as good as Martin Rogan or Nicolai Firtha”

Sergei Liakhovich was as good as those guys. He went 9 rounds with Bryant Jennings before Eddie Mustafa pulled him out. Mike McCallum doesn’t work with 3rd raters. He worked with Liakhovich for 2 months before the Wilder fight and predicted an upset … Liakhovich can’t defend so he had no chance. Fury isn’t a brilliant defender either.

Posted September 21, 2013 8:01 pm 


AssyrianGod

You have to wonder why in 29 bouts, Wilder has been matched with truly terrible opposition, either he is scared, or his people are scared, because there is no excuse for it at all. 10-15 fight against the type of cannon fodder Wilder has ”fought” I can understand, but 29 of them? Something must be wrong, I’m guessing its a glass jaw, poor stamina, poor defence or poor skills, possibly a combination of those things. Wilder was decked by the near useless Harold Sconiers and looked to have only very basic skills against the unremarkable near novice Kelvin Price. The Chisora that fought Helenius and Vitali would probably beat Wilder.

Posted September 21, 2013 7:55 pm 


JoanneBugner

Tor – WHO has Wilder ACTUALLY BEATEN in his entire career to make you think he could beat anyone in the top 20? Wilder hasnt even fought a guy as good as Martin Rogan or Nicolai Firtha, let alone guys like Johnson, Chisora and Cunningham. Fury’s a proven contender, Wilder is what? A big guy who can punch but has rolled over nobodies for years.

Posted September 21, 2013 7:44 pm 


bringiton

it’s an absolute fact heavyweights don’t typically have this level of sparring THIS close to a fight. period.

i will come on this board and say “i’m wrong,” if Fury does NOT fight someone before and if, he ever fights Bum Haye.

Posted September 21, 2013 7:36 pm 


Tor

Fury is a sloppy, glass jawed joke, if a shot featherfisted CW like USS cunningham and Nevin “the HW Malignaggi but even less powerful) Pajkic are dropping you hard and hurting you than Wilder might just kill him. He’ll never fight WIlder, he will duck duck duck

Posted September 21, 2013 7:32 pm 


joe

Love to see it. Don’t know if Fury could recover if Wilder knocked him down and how would Wilder handle fighting a taller opponent?

Posted September 21, 2013 7:18 pm 


Anonymouse

Wilder is a Ducker and a fake, total hypejob whose beaten nobodies, never even fought a top 30 fighter!

Posted September 21, 2013 7:05 pm 


EZ E

SCOTTYBOY Very true. I’ve had fighters get slight cuts and nicks and train as they heal and even sparring within a couple weeks. It all depends the LOCATION, how DEEP and the PROGRESS of the cut. It varies. Ask any fight doctor or cut-man, they’ll tell you themselves. Another factor is that some guys cut EASIER and heal SLOWER, considerably slower than the average fighter.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:52 pm 


EZ E

Why are some (on other threads as well) blasting Haye? NOBODY pulled out. Cuts happen, what part of that don’t they understand. It’s happened on BIGGER stages, with ATG fighters. GENUINE fractured hands, broken ribs, car accidents and GENUINE CUTS!! This is a LEGIT postponement. The fight will eventually take place. Going with Haye.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:35 pm 


scottyboy

I don’t think people realise how long a deep cut like that takes to heal properly. Later is claiming the fight can be rescheduled for around six weeks time but it would be 3 months at least before haye could spar again.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:34 pm 


TARK

Haye got cut.., It HAPPENS.

Did Vitali suffer four (4) fight postponing injuries in a row while preparing for Hasim Rahman??? … Did Ali suffer a hernia 3 days before his first title defense against Sonny Liston??? … Was Foreman cut, postponing the “Rumble in the Jungle” with Ali?” … Did Froch hurt his back and need a postponement of his Arthur Abraham fight? … Did Calzaghe hurt his wrist and need a postponement of his Roy Jones fight? … Did Lamont Peterson bust up Floyd’s ribs, causing a long postponement of his Marquez fight? … Did Wladimir suffer two (2) abdominal tears, postponing his fight with Dereck Chisora twice?

Injuries happen… This isn’t Heaven we’re living in.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:26 pm 


UJelly

Just postpone the fight and do it in a month or so. The cut is above the brow so may be at risk of opening up again (i.e. proximity to the bone), but it’s not one of those horrible ones on the eyelid.
It’s in one of those positions above the brow where if it opened in a fight, it wouldn’t cause the fight to be stopped unless it opened up horrendously wide.

Posted September 21, 2013 6:25 pm 


JJ

Move on, Tyson. Haye is a HW fraud. Get another match arranged!

Posted September 21, 2013 5:59 pm 


Mick the Marmalizer

Regarding Scott Quigg:
This fight means bugger all, as Rigo is the WBA Champion & #1 @ 122Lb! Little Quiggy should have fought Carl Frampton with British, EBU & Commonwealth title’s on the line, not this phony crap!!….

Posted September 21, 2013 5:55 pm 


EZ E

Fury take on Wilder?? Not on your life. Not for. now anyway. HAYE vs FURY will take place! There’s no doubt that Fury does have some talent and he’s good for the sport. Has people talking about boxing, regardless of whether the comments are negative or positive. I was looking forward to this fight, still am. Although Fury is already talking about moving on I doubt that he’ll simply walk away from his BEST possible payday. He might be ‘flexing his might’ looking for extra perk$. Economically this situation doesn’t benefit either fighter. They need each other. Although I believe that Haye will win, Fury is young and can come back, maybe even a rematch later down the line, TIME and MONEY will tell. BUT… as for this fight, IT WILL TAKE PLACE.

Posted September 21, 2013 5:54 pm 


pragmatic

posting too quickly…. I get that so often that now before i post i double click and copy.

Posted September 21, 2013 5:52 pm 


Mick the Marmalizer

ESB: How come I’m commenting to quickly with my 1st post for 8 hours?

Posted September 21, 2013 5:50 pm 


Ned

They can get a decent opponent real fast if they’re willing to put the money up. Team Fury was negotiating for a fight against Fres Oquendo just before they accepted the fight against Haye. That might be a good choice for next week, and it could be an entertaining battle.

Posted September 21, 2013 5:37 pm 


dwc

KL…Anything is posible.But Haye and his team are seasoned pros I cant see Haye or his team getting that careless so close to such a big fight. It really makes me wonder,did they see something in Haye or in Fury that promoted this type of training this kind of hardcore sparring so close to the fight???

Posted September 21, 2013 5:30 pm 


knowall

Get real. Wilder fights crap with eight weeks notice. He wont fight fury with one . What a crap article

Posted September 21, 2013 5:15 pm 


KL

dwc, I agree to a certain extent, Haye didn’t take Fury lightly. Haye like most top boxers are students of boxing and they know full well the strengths & weaknesses of their opponents, and obviously try to nullify their opponents strengths whilst exploiting their opponents weaknesses.
That said, I don’t think we can read too much into why Haye was training so hard so close to the fight, maybe Haye just underestimated Filip Hrgović
and instructed Filip Hrgović to try hit him as hard as he could, not thinking that Hrgović would catch him?

Posted September 21, 2013 5:13 pm 


dwc

Seanie P…I dont think even Haye would agree with you,because why would he be working his ass off in such hard sparring so close to the fight.Haye was doing hardcore sparring so close to the fight because he knew it wasnt as easy as people think.

Posted September 21, 2013 5:00 pm 


SeanieP

It does not matter who Fury fights Haye or Wilder its all over for him inside 4 rounds.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:49 pm 


KL

Croatian Filip Hrgović caused the cut.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:36 pm 


hit and slip

It WASNT Wilder do some reserch before posting!!!!!!!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 4:28 pm 


dwc

Yank…Wilder didnt cause the cut,it was a unknown east euro sparring partner he was using.It wasnt even one of the more known guys he was using,but why was he sparring so hard so close to the fight? I guess he thought it was going to be tougher then the fans thought!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 4:26 pm 


Shatterd Dreams

That would mean Haye missing out on a major payday, i can’t see Haye letting that happen. The Fury vs Haye fight is major domestic clash add in the fact thay Fury is unbeaten and it’s ppv gold, can’t see them messing around with this card.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:25 pm 


Anonymous

It WAS Wilder, I’m sure!!!

Posted September 21, 2013 4:21 pm 


hit and slip

Furys exit plan….thats plain nonsence.Its as bad as saying Haye let the cut happened because he wasnt ready.Fury is only 24years old and is a top 5 to 8 fighter in the div. with MANY years ahead of him.Overall the hvwt div isnt a killer row booming with scary talent,at this rate Fury will have a world belt down the road.Fury has atleast 10 years of prime fighting left with many more paydays,that Im sure him and his team dont want to give up.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:21 pm 


Exiled Yank

Curtis – LOL! I hadn’t thought of that. I wonder if Wilder caused the cut.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:20 pm 


Curtis Lowe

Surprised to learn that Haye had a sparring partner that was punching back. He and Booth won’t make that mistake again.

Posted September 21, 2013 4:17 pm 


anonymous

Because that’s how it works in boxing you know. One guy drops out 7 days before an elite-level professional fight so why not just get in another one? I’m sure Deontay Wilder would have been in training camp all week just in case such an opportunity came along. I should have known better than to read past the headline

Posted September 21, 2013 4:14 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

Anonymous the w@nkers of again calling real fighting men w@nkers!!!!him and his bruv bruce the w@nker have no nuts in there sacks!!! tossers!

Posted September 21, 2013 3:55 pm 


pragmatic

The fight against Haye was supposed to be Fury’s exit plan. It’s the biggest payday Fury can get and the most sellable to the public. With very little talent this is as far as Fury is gonna get. He will wait for Haye. Haye will beat him and then that’s the last we will hear from Fury. Watch for a Haye KO early with a big overhand right!

Posted September 21, 2013 3:53 pm 


abrakadabra

Check out Peter Fury’s twitter. He attempted to get a replacement but SKY were not interested. There will be no replacement or rematch.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:47 pm 


dwc

How the hell does Fury sign to fight Haye and was ready for sat. yet people say hes afraid to fight unproven Wilder..what a joke.Its like Ali signed to fight Foreman but was afraid to fight Dunn…yeah okay,and the moon is made of swiss chesse…

Posted September 21, 2013 3:27 pm 


The Truth

Personally, I would LOVE to see Fury v Wilder. In fact, I would find this fight EVERY BIT as exciting a prospect as Fury/Haye…..if not perhaps MORE exciting.

C’mon, Mr. Hearn. Make it happen!!

Posted September 21, 2013 3:17 pm 


hit and slip

anom…Cunnigham just came off a fight against Adamek who is a top 5 hvwt. and clearly was ripped-off before he fought Fury. Rogan,V.M. Johnson are light years ahead of who Wilder fought so far.And Wilder having 4 or 5 years on Fury aswell.And lets not forget Fury was suppose to fight Haye sat. night, a top hvwt. without a doubt.As Wilder is basking in the sun with his k.o. of Harrison.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:17 pm 


Anonymous

Don’t think fury wud dare fight wilder. Thts it.

Posted September 21, 2013 3:12 pm 


Anonymous

H&S,if I remember correct Furys last few fight were against a blown up cruiser weight,a massively over weight Johnson an 150 year old Vinny maddalone and a taxi driver,he was ready for the win lose or draw million pound pay day…

Posted September 21, 2013 2:57 pm 


hit and slip

anom…Well Fury is alot more of a fighting man then Wilder.Look at Furys record at 24yr old now look at Wilders record at 28yrs old.If I had to pick who is more of a fighting man who fights more live wires it would have to be Fury.Atleast Fury was ready for Haye a top fighter in the div. while Wilder is coming off fighting Harrison and a blown-up middleweight..lol.

Posted September 21, 2013 2:35 pm 


bringiton

My feeling is that Haye put himself in harm’s way deliberately. Not that he tried to get cut (and fyi you non-boxers one can be cut even with a helmet) rather, he was in a fatalistic mode, “if a knee blows or a cut comes … then it does.” That sort of thinking.
David Haye is and has been for years on anabolic steroids, the affects of which diminish as one ages. My guess is that steroids didn’t provide the ‘lift’ they normally bring to DH and he started dropping his guard, figuratively and literally.
My guess is that this fight won’t be ‘rescheduled’ before 2014 if ever.
Beyond that, I propose that news will soon arise about Ol’ Dave (and others) which will derail or even end, his ‘amazing’ career.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:58 pm 


Xavier

Nah, Tyson Fury trained for Haye, not a 6’7 beanpole puncher. Big pay-day lined up against Haye. Imagine Fury takes the Wilder fight now, then gets KO’d. How stupid would that be? Surely they’ll reschedule the Fury-Haye bout.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:47 pm 


Mr Gav

This fight is a massive risk for fury and could ruin his chance of his big money fight with haye, as wilder could KO fury as his other 29 kos. However I would happily pay for this fight as could go either way and I would not want to miss that. However there is a very little chance of this happening

Posted September 21, 2013 1:23 pm 


KL

gray…..big difference here is that this isn’t a world title fight……..with a world title fight you are most likely to get at least one party (The challenger) willing to step up at short notice.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:22 pm 


KL

Poplins Fury has sparred with guys like Chambers and Cunningham specifically in preparation for Haye’s size and style……..you REALLY think Fury fighting a different style and sized fighter in Wilder makes good sense?…….and simarly Wilder hasn’t sparred with anyone with a similar size or style to Fury……..a weeks notice for both fighters with a potential future world title shot at stake…..makes sense??……Yeah Right!

Posted September 21, 2013 1:17 pm 


gray

Why not Lewis Vs Klitscko was made when kirk johnson got an injury a week before the fight.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:15 pm 


De Lima I.

LOL this would be a dream bout for Joanne!

Posted September 21, 2013 1:13 pm 


Poplins

From Fury’s point if view it really makes no difference. Either way he makes a shed load of money. And either way, he gets blasted out inside 3 rounds.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:11 pm 


stefful tuttul

Fury is ranked in the top 50. Fury is not 50 pounds overweight. Fury does not drive a Good Humor truck. I think Wilder has a contract to fight Mr. Bean next.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:11 pm 


Poplins

Sounds like a great plan to me. Fury and Wilder are both in shape , and are both the kind of guys that are always prepared to fight anyone. The winner taking on Haye would be an even bigger event. And I agree, two pay per views within 3 weeks of each other will be bad business for Sky. Bring on Fury v Wilder! … The bronze bomber will wipe the floor with him.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:07 pm 


Ned

They’re always saying how stupid Fury is. But Tyson’s smart enough not to blow away a multi-million dollar gate by sparring only a week before fight night. Haye must’ve been dropped on his head as a child, or he’s missing part of his brain pan.

Posted September 21, 2013 1:00 pm 


KL

Mago……how about your name sake put in a bid to be Fury’s next opponent instead of fighting Mike Perez………having said that why not Mike Perez fight Fury.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:59 pm 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

the alabama jackass aka the windmill does not have the stones to take on tyson fury

Posted September 21, 2013 12:51 pm 


KL

Bert Cooper jumped at the chance to fight for the World title, and Holyfield was so confident at that stage he didn’t care whether his opponent was Damione or Cooper……..hardly a good comparison to a potential Wilder v Fury clash.
Cooper had nothing to lose……and Holyfield didn’t think he could lose!

Posted September 21, 2013 12:49 pm 


whatupdoe

I know that Wilder isn’t proven yet, but how aren’t you excited about a guy with his kind of frightening one punch ko power?

Posted September 21, 2013 12:46 pm 


Curtis Lowe

A really poor article that makes no sense.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:44 pm 


KL

Yeah right! both fighters will want to fight each other with only a week to prepare!

Posted September 21, 2013 12:39 pm 


THE REAL AMERICAN OAK

No way Fury jumps into this fight without training for a big puncher like this. No one knows how deep the water is Deontay can swim in. He may, like most of these one hit wonders be good only because they have the KO. There are no HWs I am excited about today.

Posted September 21, 2013 12:37 pm 



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