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TARK

You know what??? Stevenson was knocked out by Darnell Boon and he has fought NOBODY.. Kovalev will beat him with little effort.

Posted October 3, 2013 2:29 am 


jp

Stevenson has Bellew next then it will probably be Hopkins, then he hopefully fights Kovalev , and I think he wins that fight, definitely ending in a KO going Stevenson’s way, he simply looks unbeatable right now.

Posted October 1, 2013 3:52 pm 


Dynamo

Killing Moon The Soothsayer : you need to tell your girl to stop touching your peewee bro, you’re getting pretty excited there !
1, i never said he was dumb or whatever to duck him, i just said he did, him and the 12 other down the list, its why when door opened with Dawson, Stevenson took the fight at 175.
2, Froch will do all he can to avoid him, because he is way to slow and his crab like attack will just mean wide open bulls eye in the middle.
3, Froch is a great fighter, that was not in cause ever here, just stating many knew and more now know, how dangerous Stevenson is, not just for his raw power, but the hand speed he has makes it quite assured he’ll pass some by any fighter no matter whom, and the problem is its all it takes him to hurt someone, again no matter whom.
Most fighter that will take on Stevenson have and will make the same mistake : thinking they can be real tight and shelter behind good defense, the storms when he hits, but they all realize what they did not conceive prior to living it, he hits way to hard to try and stand such. Once you’ve felt your forearm bones bend under the shots, you realize you need to evade and come in with diff approach or else something bad will happen.
Its pretty much what Cloud found out, when, early in, he tried to bully him to stalk him in close combat, he immediately got met with Stevenson’s left, and the speed he delivers it, makes it pretty damn hard to evade or succeed in getting in the inside.
It is why i think only guys with exceptional defensive & counter skills (aka Ward for the division) or similar speed & power (aka Kovalev)
and to close it all : the more we get of such entertaining fighters like those mentioned allover , the better we are and the more good fights we get to see !

As for teh road map for Stevenson, if teh big netwroks manage a deal for Hopkins vs Stevenson, tehn they will delay teh mandatory with Belew, for simple money reasons.
Else Stevenson will do Bellew and then ( if he succeeds on Bellew of course, perso i doubt Bellew is a threat to Stevenson) Hopkins else its gonna be winner of Bute-Pascal fight, again for financial reasons,
and then, if he makes it through that he’ll get Ward.

Peash !

Posted September 30, 2013 7:08 pm 


B Red

Cinco De Mayweather whips Gennady period

Posted September 30, 2013 6:19 pm 


B Red

Triple G cant whip Floyd At 154 or Ward at 168, ya dig.

Posted September 30, 2013 6:16 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

One of the greats wrote:

“No one beats this version of Stevenson at 175.”

Interesting take Joseph, to me it seems like Adonis is a little vulnerable behind that awesome offense…

Posted September 30, 2013 12:23 pm 


SREDMOND

There is NO question that Stevenson is Top Dog at LHW he won the Lineal LHW Championship and he stopped another guy who had a version of the title… Cloud is a rugged guy who had never been stopped and Stevenson got it done.. We will see how long he can stay atop the LHW pile…

Posted September 30, 2013 11:44 am 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

I believe Stevenson is The Number 1 Light-Heavyweight Boxer right now.

Posted September 30, 2013 9:30 am 


Fight Aficionado

BoxRetard as everyone knows is IdontSeeShiat. He posts different predictions under different names and attempts to take credit for the correct one. Then he denies making the other prediction. What a pathetic loser, chirping his nonsense on a Saturday night alone in his parents’ basement.

Posted September 30, 2013 3:43 am 


Jim Rich

I think I’ll have a nice warm bowl of tomato soup, where’s the blender. Ahh, looks just like chavez, jr face after the fight, tasty.

Posted September 29, 2013 11:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Here we go with guys stealing screen names and POOR attempts to imitate the inimitable…My style cannot be copied by frustrated lower life forms who simultaneously crave and revile my opinions… We all know the book on Chavez now, he showed some promise stopping Andy Lee but he has regressed due to his non existent discipline and living off his old mans name… Clearly he cannot make 160 and 168 might be a stretch…The next time he steps up he’s losing Brian Vera was there to make him look good and he Jr could not impress…

Posted September 29, 2013 8:55 pm 


BEARS

who the hell is postin under my name. please dont

Posted September 29, 2013 8:45 pm 


JoeKidd

Would love to see Stevenson let loose on Bhop! Retire the old fart permanently!

Posted September 29, 2013 8:03 pm 


logic

Let’s give Cloud a little credit,guys.

He was one of the few people brave enough to step in the ring with Stevenson.

He changed his usual two-handed agressive style to avoid getting cranked by that big left howitzer of a punch to the head.

He took some vicious bodyshots and kept fighting.

In fact I think anyone who plans on beating Stevenson,or taking advantage of his flaws, needs toable to fight a perfect fight and be very strong in the body. That’s Ward in my opinion, but I doubt he will take the risk!

Posted September 29, 2013 7:43 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

I`d go with those picking Kovalev over Stevenson, who I think was made to look a little more skilled than he actually is by Cloud.

This is a Cloud who lost convincingly to Hopkins, and should have had a defeat on his record vs Campillo – the same Campillo Kovelev iced in 3 rounds.

No disrespect to Stevenson, I like him, and I see it being competitive, but once Kovelev is on top the end would come quickly.

I think others are right below when they say the LHW has been weak for a while now. People like Stevenson and Pascal weren`t really top 5 SMW’s a nd yet they can march straight up to LHW and beat the supposed no1 there in Dawson. JOhnson comes down from that weight and loses nearly every fight at SMW.

Butes response to a whipping is to run to the weaker division.

Posted September 29, 2013 6:56 pm 


punch

Adonis will have his work cut out for him if he faces Ward. Adonis will have to come forward and pressure Ward and once he does that hIs defensive flaws will be magnified and eventually he’ll be outboxed. Ward by UD.

Posted September 29, 2013 4:48 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Dynamo – Guess facts and reasoning isn’t one of your strenghts….Froch had to choose between a mandatory vs a fairly unknown Stevenson and a rematch,moneyfight,unification-fight against a multible time champ at 168 named Mikkel Kessler ….Yes, clearly Froch ducked him LMAO….

But i’m guessing had Dynamo been in Frochs shoes he would have fought Stevenson instead….Is this guy for real ?

Posted September 29, 2013 3:54 pm 


Dynamo

for everyone of you talking bout Froch and other 168 … last night fight was the 2nd fight of Stevenson at 175, the 1st one being vs Dawson, all the rest of his fights are at 168 … and EVERY SINGLE , no exceptions made, every single fighter in the 168, have ducked Stevenson when he was mandatory for title, Froch used all his promotion weight to duck it, and he will do the same once his name get listed again for Stevenson.
No one except Kovalev (speed & power) and Ward(Boxing IQ) have a chance of beating Stevenson, and thats for the whole 168/175 divisions

Posted September 29, 2013 3:39 pm 


Joseph Herron

No one beats this version of Stevenson at 175.

I don’t understand how anyone can think Kovalev decisively beats Stevenson after last night’s performance.

It would be a very good fight with two home run hitters in the ring, but the ring IQ and power of Stevenson would be too much for Sergei at this time.

Expect Stevenson to face Bellew next, Jean Pascal shortly after, and Sergei Kovalev in mid to late 2014…after Sergei has received some much needed exposure on HBO.

Match-ups need to be nurtured…expect HBO to do their job in really letting this unification bout mature to its proper setting.

Posted September 29, 2013 2:57 pm 


Exiled Yank

I’d like to see Stevenson face Hopkins.

Posted September 29, 2013 2:38 pm 


gr33nfather

Stevenson beats Ward easy

Posted September 29, 2013 1:15 pm 


Tomato Can

Hidalgo, no wonder you feel the way you do. You gave every close round to Vera, even though he was landing anything of note, and was catching heavy shots in return. I’m no CHavez jr. fan, and I wasn’t impressed last night, but he landed enough telling blows to keep the fight closer than your supposedly great score card shows.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:04 pm 


Hidalgo

“But it is funny that the Judges aren’t able to judge fights either now a days, isn’t it?”

Tomato Can, I also scored the fight 98-92. In favor of Vera! It’s not that the judges “aren’t able” it’s what they won’t do that’s important, and that’s be honest. Jr. no more won that fight than Mayweather fought to a draw with Alvarez.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:16 pm 


Second tier championship

Kovlalev is the man to beat in the light heavyweight division. Cloud is not even close to him. Hopkins is running scared but will this Stevenson step up and fight the best. I doubt it because he will get ktfo before the 3rd rd os over.

Posted September 29, 2013 11:29 am 


Anonymous

Any chance we can get a monthly/quarterly judge watch rankings going? We can give points for good scoring and award penalty points for poor scoring and get some sort of ranking system going, which can be a decent gauge to alert us to poor officials or if the fix is in.

Posted September 29, 2013 11:26 am 


TJ

Any chance we can get a monthly/quarterly judge watch rankings going? We can give points for good scoring and award penalty points for poor scoring and get some sort of ranking system going, which can be a decent gauge to alert us to poor officials or if the fix is in.

Posted September 29, 2013 11:24 am 


Love-the-Sport

I am not sure yet about Stevenson. He caught Chad Dawson on the downside of Chad Dawson and he beat-up Cloud who has bad management, bad training, and bad boxing IQ.

Good performance by Stevenson — but I will reserve judgment until I see Cloud against more name fighters.

Posted September 29, 2013 9:50 am 


Love-the-Sport

Good performance by Stevenson. Terrible performance by Cloud.

Very disappointed in Cloud. He is a banger that should be at the center of great action fights. However, I think it is pretty clear Cloud has lost three (3) in a row including Campillo (disputed win), Hopkins, and now Stevenson. I blame bad management, bad training, and maybe a bad boxing IQ.

Cloud has bad management because his management put him in the ring with the three worst fighters for Cloud in terms of style. Campillo and Stevenson are too fast for Cloud and Hopkins is too smart. Very bad match-making.

Cloud has bad training because he is one dimensional. All he can do is come forward and throw heavy punches. I mean that is a good way to beat Glen Johnson — but he can’t beat anybody else.

Cloud has bad boxing IQ because again, he has no ability to adapt, no ability to counter punch.

Lastly, I thought his trainers gave him ZERO advice. Cloud should fire Don King and start over. Very disappointing. Boxing needs and wants fighters like Cloud. We should all want him to put on a better performance than what he showed against Stevenson.

Posted September 29, 2013 9:48 am 


Done Deal

Adonis looked goooooood!!!!! Fast, slick, and powerful. I was impressed.

Posted September 29, 2013 9:31 am 


PEEJ

Cloud is now on gate keeper status. Unfortunately he never completely developed. Whether is was due to the inactivity with signing with King or his skills just hit a ceiling but he is now just a gatekeeper of the light heavy weight division. As for Stevenson, he should probably stay away from Hopkins. Though that fight would sell in Canada. With the way Hopkins took apart and beat Cloud, they will want to see if Stevenson could get some redemption. I will take Hopkins in that fight. But it was still a good win by Stevenson. He has improved a lot. And that man can punch

Posted September 29, 2013 9:26 am 


JoeKidd

Stevenson was never touched. So, as good as he looks, will be interesting to see what happens when a good one lands.

Posted September 29, 2013 8:49 am 


JoeKidd

Chavez will fight Paulie M next. More his size.

Posted September 29, 2013 8:47 am 


SREDMOND

I see that ESB SPACE CASES Bears and Lion King want to see Kovalev and Stevenson fight which makes sense… But these same dolts are more interested in their other hero GGG dropping down to 154 where he’s never fought and facing Floyd Mayweather who’s best at 147? Why would these Clods not wanna see GGG assume the throne at 160 if he’s capable bu defeating Martinez and other players (Quillin) at MW… A couple of off balanced sorts to say the least…

Posted September 29, 2013 8:11 am 


SREDMOND

Chavez Jr is simply an undisciplined fighter who despite having some decent physical attributes has not mastered the detail work of boxing (staying in shape and closer to fighting weight) He has a bankable name so the powers that be are loathed to throw him over but he’s gonna take another loss sooner than later if he try’s it at 168 or 175

Posted September 29, 2013 7:59 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, logic “it would have been possible for Canelo to win if he had NOT LOST” not an ounce of sense in that rationale… Canelo already outlined the SAME issue that all Mayweather opponents do “I could not catch him aka land telling blows” only complete LOSERS with grossly overblown egos cannot accept making a wrong prediction… It’s just extra embarrassing when you bet against an ATG who still retains enough of his skills to beat anyone in the appropriate weight classes… “Canelo is gonna smash Mayweather” you’ll be saying that again and MAKING EXCUSES postfight AGAIN…

Posted September 29, 2013 7:56 am 


Ike

That was a very good performance by Stevenson. He says he wants to fight Hopkins, but I’d much rather see him vs. Kovalev. Cloud is done.

Posted September 29, 2013 7:30 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Adonis Stevenson stoped Tavoris Cloud in 7th round and out-boxed the former world light heavyweight champion in a dominant way. Congratulations to Stevenson for his great performance and victory, just great performance. Stevenson have now proved his right as a recognised world light heavyweight champion (Lineal & WBC) and we will see more of this in the future. Stevenson should now go for taking the other world title holders like WBA title holder Beibut Shumenov & WBO title holder Sergey Kovalev. World light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins should not be challanged by Stevenson as it now may hurt more then do good. Hopkins is a big time legend and a 48 year old champion and legend you just not go and calling out challange. Other great fights to name would be Stevenson vs. Jean Pascal, Lucian Bute, Nathan Cleverly, Zsolt Erdei etc.

Posted September 29, 2013 7:28 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Popkins – I think Froch would fare well at LHW …But it’s hard to see him go up from a business point of view and a legacy point of view….The fights are more lucrative ,the boxers are better and he’s got a belt at SMW so why move up?…Why toy around with his weight for a fight vs Hopkins which will be ugly and he’ll be given less to nothing cred for if he wins…

At SMW the talent-pool is great…And there is a potential Ward rematch,Kessler rematch, the young guns of britain ,the german invasion and alot of talent….The ones who went up to LHW was Kessler who wanted a test, but quickly came to his senses and went back down, Bute a broken man and Stevenson who couldn’t land the big fight at SMW…

Posted September 29, 2013 7:19 am 


Popkins

Killing moon – Froch seemed extremely reluctant to step up to light heavy when he was basically offered Hopkins on a plate. Hops against Froch wud be an easy sell and massive stadium fight in the UK, despite Hop’s age and boring style. But Froch pretty much said he felt he wouldn’t be big enough to handle the 175 pounders. But Bernard Is on the verge of getting beaten. Why? Coz he’s almost half a century years old!

Posted September 29, 2013 6:58 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

I’ve said for some time that LHW was one of the weakest divs in boxing and that Cloud and Dawson was glorified nobodies and any top 5 SMW could take that div ..Stevenson wasn’t even top 5 in SMW and he’s finding it easy ….I’m glad Stevenson proved I was right …Next stop must be to prove Hopkins isn’t that great at his current age and he’s just been capitalizing on a bad div…..But doubt Hopkins will be up for that challenge.

Posted September 29, 2013 6:50 am 


Popkins

I’m afraid Hopkins, at almost 50, is now surely too old to handle Kovalev. Possibly 5 years ago, but not now. If Hopkins won’t retire tho he will hav to face the winner of Steve/Kov.

Posted September 29, 2013 6:44 am 


Popkins

I’m glad Stevenson has cemented his position as the Ring/linear champion. Hopefully he’ll KO Bellew too… And then Kovalev will get maximum credit when dishes out a beating to Adonis!

Posted September 29, 2013 6:40 am 


elbilly

So disappointed in Cloud, he did not want to know after feeling Stevenson’s power in the first round. Had no game plan to counter what he knew was coming, gotta question his future in the sport. Stevenson V Kovalev, Froch (but unlikely to happen) or Hopkins. Can’t see Bellew taking the belt off him not enough power and his chin is questionable against the power he’ll face. Kovalev is a curious one as he still hasn’t faced top quality after Clevlerly failed to show up. Hopkins would likely out smart him all night.

Posted September 29, 2013 6:20 am 


punch

Adonis is a class above all the fighters Kovalev has faced, in the same vein Adonis hasn’t faced a puncher who moves with great fluidity like Kovalev. I already have gitters for mere thinking of the fight between these two. Right now I think it’s a toss-up. As both fighters can end the fight if they find their target. Whilst both have holes in their defence, Kovalev’s footwork is slightly better though sometimes he has the tendency of being too reckless whilst looking for a KO which may give Adonis an opening. Likewise Adonis lack of fluid transition from offence to defence gives Kovalev the chance of hitting gold. The senario that will play out in their eventual fight is anyone’s guess. My guts says Kovalev but I’ll be rooting for Adonis.

Posted September 29, 2013 5:47 am 


Mr Gav

Looking forward to Stevenson vs bellow,both are very game fighters who will give value for money. Looking forward to seeing kovlev in the ring again. Maybe after a defense each we could see kovlev vs Stevenson as that would be fun. Ward and hoppkins though excellent fighters are normally a snooze fest to watch

Posted September 29, 2013 4:58 am 


huckster

adonis is cleaning up.

Posted September 29, 2013 4:35 am 


boxing barlow

Anyone who thinks Hopkins did enough to beat Calzaghe doesn’t get the time of day from me! Calzaghe was in a different league and all Hopkins could do was spoil. Regarding Stevenson and kovalev I think kovalev is a different class and would destroy Stevenson.

Posted September 29, 2013 4:20 am 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Kovalev is not even in Stevensons class. Who has he beaten? Stevenson will absoulutely demolish Kovalev.

Posted September 29, 2013 3:32 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Kovalev VS Stephenson makes a lot of sense. However Tony Bellew is #1 mandatory @ 175Lb with the WBC & this fight must be honoured 1st. Personally I’d like to see the WBA’s answer to Rip Van Winkle Beibut Shumenov come out of hiding & take on Kovalev with the winner of each fighting sometime next spring. Of course there’s also Bhop in the equation who can never be discounted although if he could make 168Lb then I see more ca$h in a clash with Froch or Ward.

Posted September 29, 2013 3:15 am 


Fight Aficionado

“Has Kovalev ever faced anyone with the kind of world class power of Adonis Stevenon?” – Joseph H a valid question would be to turn this backwards. Who has Stevenson faced with world class power? Both are big punchers but neither has faced someone with equal power. That’s why it needs to happen. Fact is Kovalev is the better boxer. If it’s even money, it shouldn’t be. Kovalev by KO.

Posted September 29, 2013 2:47 am 


BEARS

The prince……………with that rationale on joe cal vs hopkins sure you subscribe to the belief that provodnikov beat bradely?

Posted September 29, 2013 2:17 am 


Tomato Can

Prince, agreed, I think I had that fight as a draw.

Posted September 29, 2013 2:00 am 


Tomato Can

The end of Circus Chavez is coming soon. He’s not winning no more belts, short of strange shenanigans.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:57 am 


The Prince

Tomato Can – You’ll get no argument from me. After all, I believe Hopkins landed the more telling blows against Calzaghe and knocked him down, which was enough to win it IMO. Calzaghe was more active, but was mostly hitting Hopkins gloves and shoulders. Calzaghe’s face was bruised up; Hopkins face was spotless. So I understand your point-of-view.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:56 am 


Boxtradamus

At least Jr is taking MY advice and Fighting in his TRUE weight class. The GREATEST Fighters in this Sport don’t boil down and blow UP their bodies. You’re supposed to take notes from the BEST.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:53 am 


Tomato Can

Once again, I had it 96-94 Chavez….

Posted September 29, 2013 1:52 am 


Boxtradamus

BEARS-Learn how to not go for the upset WIN and just go with the WINNER regardless of IF its an upset or not. It was not possible for Canelo to WIN vs Mayweather because he’s TOO SLOW by hand and foot like I TOLD you he was. Letting his hands go more would have resulted in him getting countered more. I advised him to abandon his power and focus on SPEED during training camp but obviously he didn’t listen as he knocked his sparring partners out left and right. Against Mayweather you have to try to pot shot your way to victory but he didn’t take MY advice and thats why he LOST. Trying to hit Floyd with power shots isn’t TOO successful. The big shots that Mosley landed on him was HOW many rounds ago????? Canelo landed ZERO big shots just as I predicted. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born and YOUR OPINION can’t change it.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:52 am 


Tomato Can

Prince, good point. To tell you the truth, I don’t even like the Chavez’s. And concerning the fans, Chavez didn’t fight a Mexican style persute type of fight. They don’t like it when a fighter sits back and counters and waits around for openings. Really to me, Vera out worked Chavez, but Jr., made his shots count more in most rounds.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:51 am 


The Prince

I have nothing against the people who thing Chavez Jr. took the fight. I think the most telling thing, however, was that most of the fans showed up to cheer for Chavez Jr. but at the end of the fight, most of his fans were booing him and cheering for the tune up, Vera. That’s pretty telling as to who they believe won the fight. Sadly, those who say Chavez did enough to win it will be in the minority for the coming days.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:46 am 


Tomato Can

It seems that lately everyone thinks the busier fighter won the fight, even when the busier fighter neglects defense and gets tagged with huge counters. To me, the busier fighter can land several punches, but that’s negated once he’s knocked into the ropes, across the ring and so forth. Tonight’s fight was the perfect example of that IMO. But once again, I’ll watch it again soon, just to calibrate my fight gage.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:41 am 


Tomato Can

Hidalgo, I always thought I could score a card with the best of them. It seems lately I haven’t seen fights like the majority. I’ll watch the fight again, maybe I wasn’t paying 100 percent attention. But it is funny that the Judges aren’t able to judge fights either now a days, isn’t it?

Posted September 29, 2013 1:35 am 


Old Coot

Superman is damn right.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:33 am 


Tomato Can

Terror Tim, Okay, you’re probably right. But the way fans pop off on you here, will cause things like that to be said. Anyway, I’ll watch it again, cause usually I’m with the majority. That may not be the case tonight. But really I’m feeling like a lot of fans were hoping for a Chavez Jr. loss, and since Vera was bring the fight and staying busy the fans were more than happy to give it to him. It seemed to me the majority of the shots Chavez threw (although few) were the much more affected shots. Those affective shots won Chavez rounds. The judges seem to agree with me, but we all know judges cant be trusted.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:32 am 


Hidalgo

Chavez’s beat up face tells the truth.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:27 am 


Hidalgo

Obviously, Tomato Can, you don’t know how to judge a fight. Vera beat Chavez. Hands down.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:27 am 


terror tim

Hopkins will always school guys like Cloud. Cloud lost to Campillo as well but got robbed. Cloud is a tough guy with a good chin but that is about it. Hope he saved his money if Don King actually ever paid him because his days of getting paydays might be over.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:25 am 


Hidalgo

“Vera landed more, better, and more damaging punches. He worked his ass off … and was robbed blind.”

Right on.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:24 am 


terror tim

I just wouldn’t be saying that people who had it for Vera need judging classes when actual judges are giving it to Vera. I understand the more effective punching but Chavez wasn’t doing enough to overcome and lost the last 3 rounds hands down. That means Chavez had to win the other 6 of 7 rounds and I just didn’t see it.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:23 am 


TARK

I thought Hopkins was brilliant vs Cloud.. Turns out it was Cloud who was as slow and hesitant as Hopkins made him look.. Cloud didn’t look fresh at the weigh-in — he looked beat down.. He sounds beaten down.. Stevenson is 5 years older but looks fresher and stronger.. Cloud is gone and should quit. Stevenson needs to fight Kovalev.

I picked Stevenson to beat Froch but their “mandatory” fight didn’t go forward.. That’s just the way the Boxing business goes.. Chavez Jr. needed the negotiated weight agreement raised — it gets raised — not once but several times.. Vera negotiates a fight with a middleweight, and ends up fighting a light heavyweight. It’s a joke.

Vera beat Chavez Jr.. Marty Denkin is one of the most disgusting human beings I can think of.. Vera landed more, better, and more damaging punches. He worked his ass off … and was robbed blind.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:21 am 


Tomato Can

terror tim, that’s fine I would do the same over your word, trust me… LMAO…

Posted September 29, 2013 1:18 am 


Tomato Can

Hey hate to break this to ESB, probably 40 percent of people who judge are not happy with tonight’s outcome. That’s the way it is with these type of fights. Vera should have blocked some punches and not got rocked all night long, and I would have agreed with the 40 percenters…. No really since so many of you feel I got it wrong, I’ll check the fight out again tomorrow to see if I missed something.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:17 am 


terror tim

Hate to break this to Tomato Can people who judge fights are tweeting saying that the decision was a joke and they had it for Vera. I will take there word over yours. No one has ever paid you to judge a fight.

Posted September 29, 2013 1:07 am 


Cognitor

Tomato Can, you are out of your mind and they should put you back on the super market shelf. I don’t even like Vera but he obviously won the fight. I wanted Chavez to win so we could have martinez beat him up more the second time to erase the memory of that 12th round but after Vera picked Chavez off all night and Chavez moved like he was smoking grass, I rooted for Vera. Chavez embarassed himself . The guy moved as slow as molasses and threw one punch at a time. he couldn’t throw combinations to save his life tonight. It is so dang obvious he did not train for this fight for one round. Pathetic. Maybe the good thing was that it saved vera from getting a beating from GGG and Chavez will now have to fight Adonis Stevens! It is going to be a curse for Chavez and a mixed blessing for Vera.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:56 am 


Tomato Can

That’s the funny thing about boxing sites. Fans with a grudge on a fighter, see true boxing fans as homers against fighters they hate. In regards to tonights fight, Vera was an aggressive, but limited fighter, against Chavez who was really out of shape but proved to be the craftier fighter, as bad as that sounds. The fight was easy to score, so if you had Vera winning on being the busier fighter, take some classes on fight scoring, you need them. Trust me on that..

Posted September 29, 2013 12:50 am 


Jim Rich

Chavez jr, for the life of me I don’t understand why he isn’t more busy, he could have KO vera and made it an easy night. Chavez didn’t do much and the fight was close, imagine if he tried as hard vera then he would have ko vera without to much problem. I think judge tend to look at the stronger fighter with more whatever power or skills whatever if they have a real bad night they tend to get the nod anyways. I think judges look at that way more that what they actually see in the ring that night. There was bias in the fight, everyone knew who chavez jr was and that is what made the difference.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:47 am 


Tomato Can

Jim Rich, ha ha ha, quit waisting my time with your infantile posts.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:45 am 


The Prince

Damn, not a lot of love for Chavez Jr.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:42 am 


Tomato Can

Chavez won, based on more effective shots landed. It was pretty easy to see really. And I was pulling for Vera, LOL…

Posted September 29, 2013 12:40 am 


Jim Rich

Tomato can AKA chavez sr. go f urself.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:39 am 


Jim Rich

I argue the apple has fallen far from the tree, he isn’t the fighter his dad was lets just face it, without the weight advantage he’s nothing against any good fighter that is so obvious.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:37 am 


Tomato Can

Jim Rich, if you can’t accept that others saw JR winning. Of corse they did in that type of a fight. I’ve been a part of boxing for way too long, to know when the busier fighter was losing or not. It all depends on effective aggression, landed punches and received punches. Vera did well, but neglected D, and got caught with the better punches through out the fight. IMO, Shields should have let the fight go 12 rounds. I know he was worried about his fighter, but that could have been the difference. By the way, unless you can come at me correctly, I’ll not waste anymore text typing in your case.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:36 am 


Jim Rich

I though vera had won 5 solid rounds for sure maybe 6 I new it was close. One judge had chavez win 7 rounds and another 8. You ain’t going be able to justify that no matter how many times you watch the fight unless your biased. Vera would box almost 2 minutes without even getting hit and chavez lands a body shot and a right hand and the round is his because he hits harder, chavez wasn’t even dictating the pace of the fight, defending well, was resting most of all the rounds, boxing has to stop rewarding that BS.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:35 am 


1200 Techs

Feel bad for Vera…Let’s see Chavez fight in his real weight class though…175….

Posted September 29, 2013 12:34 am 


The Prince

Unlike Alveraz whose seemly a decent guy and earned the love of his Mexican fans, Chavez Jr. started off being liked simply because of his father. But his self-entitled attitude and his disrespect for the sport in terms of his training and preparing for fights, lost many of those Mexican fans. In fact, they’d likely became Canelo fans.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:31 am 


Jim Rich

Tomato can: you have tomatoes for brains. Your going to back up chavez jr performance tonight, try get his nutz out of your mouth for a second so you can make some sense in what your saying. 14-1 payout if vera wins, wow lot people got burned on this decision. And one judge had vera winning 2 rounds, looks like we need another judge investigated or repremanded.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:27 am 


Tomato Can

I still don’t like the Chavez’s though. I can’t wait for Chavez to fight a Ward, Froch caliber fighter. Heck, I bet anyone here that Chavez Jr, would never fight either Direlle brother, no way. THat’s Jr’s weakness, he can’t beat any true boxer. Froch has more than enough skill to make Chavez Jr. look like a buffoon in the ring.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:25 am 


KO

The Bottom line, is that a pun for Hopkins v Calzaghe in round 10.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:25 am 


hookoffthejab

can he make weight legally ………….?

Posted September 29, 2013 12:25 am 


The Prince

One things for sure, if Chavez Jr. doesn’t take his career seriously, he’s not going to last long. And now Mexcio’s favorite son is now getting booed by Mexican’s.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:20 am 


Tomato Can

The bottom line is, you cant get knocked across the ring, again and again even if you’re the busier fighter.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:18 am 


SREDMOND

HaHa the weak never identify themselves and simply use the forum as a place to safely ale ridiculous commentary.. No matter there is one thing that trumps all in boxing and that’s RESULTS at the end of the day whining, excuses and bogus arguments cannot vacate an ass whipping!!! The purity of sport!!

Posted September 29, 2013 12:17 am 


Tomato Can

96-94 Chavez Jr here… Brian did well, he was busier, he would have won if had some D, but he doesn’t and took to many of the better punches through out the night.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:17 am 


The Prince

I had Vera winning, and the crowd agrees.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:16 am 


hookoffthejab

WOW missed the fights just caught the last two rounds of Vera’s fight with Junior who won ?…………..

Posted September 29, 2013 12:14 am 


Tomato Can

I got Chavez winning this fight. Uhgttt oh. THe Chavez’s are complaining again

Posted September 29, 2013 12:13 am 


Tomato Can

I think HBO is off on their scorecard. Chavez’s better punches have been winning most of the rounds IMO.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:11 am 


The Prince

If the fight goes to the judges, Vera will get robbed.

Posted September 29, 2013 12:09 am 


Tomato Can

Sheild’s should have never let this become a 10 round fight. Sorry….

Posted September 29, 2013 12:09 am 


BoxtraCorrectaLikeISeeIt

AND CORRECTAMUNDO. I am the BIGGEST loser ever born!!!

Posted September 29, 2013 12:06 am 


1200 Techs

Boxtradamus: You don’t got to lie to kick it dogg..Youre LikeISeeIt aren’t you?? No offense but thats your other handle right?

Posted September 29, 2013 12:01 am 


Tomato Can

Vera’s got to stay on CHaves’s body. He’s not doing that, and now it’s getting too late. Who’s idea was it to make this a 10 round fight, Shields? was that a good idea?

Posted September 29, 2013 12:00 am 


punch

Vera as a strong affinity for punches.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:59 pm 


KO

Needs to be said, 46-0 for a reason, beat everyone, all the styles, what you got, here’s what I got, you lost, bye.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:58 pm 


Tomato Can

Hey Guess what though. I was a fan of Ronnie Shields, but I would have picked Chavez Jr. over him at 172 pounds.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:57 pm 


punch

Someone please tell Chavez Jr to stay clear off Andre Ward.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:56 pm 


Tomato Can

Vera can’t keep doing that.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:55 pm 


Tomato Can

Chaves is an accurate puncher, and Vera is a great catcher.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:55 pm 


punch

Adonis by stoppage just as I predicted, but a fight with Kovalev won’t be easy and for now I see it as a toss-up.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:53 pm 


1200 Techs

KO..I enjoyed watching the fighting pride of wales…with that said…I think joe cal fanclub is a different website…lol

Posted September 28, 2013 11:52 pm 


KO

Hopkins was doing a Sven Ottke in that fight against Calzaghe.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:49 pm 


Tomato Can

Joseph, you were right, Ronnie has Vera prepared for this fight. I have it even thourhg 4.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:49 pm 


Boxtradamus

BEARS I was just looking for YOU. Canelo got SCHOOLED just as I predicted!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!…..and whoever picked Canelo is LESSER than a blind MOUSE. YOU are included in that.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:49 pm 


Tomato Can

LMAO, Chavez is already gasping for air. The Chavez formula could end tonight, but I doubt it.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:48 pm 


KO

Can you imagine Calzaghe doing what Hopkins did against Calzaghe, feining low blows etc, Calzaghe wouldn’t do that, he is a fighter, I would look a right idiot doing that he would say, but Hopkins was not an idiot feining low blows, cheating.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:47 pm 


Tomato Can

Is JC still fighting or something? is he making a comeback? JC was a great fighter, but today we have other fighters, enjoy the sport.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:46 pm 


big moe

This makes stevensons win against dawson legit…

Posted September 28, 2013 11:42 pm 


murderman

Kolvalev vs stevenson equals fireworks! Yes sir!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:42 pm 


KO

Hopkins wasn’t a serious contender v Calzaghe, he cheated as well and still lost against Calzaghe, and Calzaghe was fighting away as well, Calzaghe showed up Hopkins.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:41 pm 


Tomato Can

At least Vera was given the opportunity to hydrate up 172 prior to the weigh in.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:40 pm 


1200 Techs

I like Hopkins..but I doubt he wants any of Stevenson or kovalev…

Posted September 28, 2013 11:39 pm 


Tomato Can

Hopkin’s can win fights, but does anyone think of him as a serious contender at this point?

Posted September 28, 2013 11:37 pm 


Tomato Can

Something just isn’t right with Chavez. He looks like a 190+ pounder tonight. Vera’s going to walk into something and hit the canvas tonight.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:36 pm 


talbodin

maybe a unifying tourney? kovalev, stevenson, hopkins, and if they can find shumenov.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:35 pm 


Tomato Can

Stevenson was right though Kovalev needs to keep winning, and take on some known fighters. Right now Stevenson would be better served to take on another named fighter, he’s in the drivers seat now.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:34 pm 


Jim Rich

Vera has this one, chavez looks bad.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:34 pm 


1200 Techs

People already raining on his parade…WTF…dude just won and executed an intelligent fight plan!!! Go Superman!!!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:33 pm 


Tomato Can

Joseph you’re right about not knowing if Kovalev would beat Stevenson. I would pick Kovalev over Stevenson based on what I’ve seen from Kovalev. His punches are shorter, and he’s always ready to throw punches. But Stevenson just beat two former champions back to back. You can’t take that away from him.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:32 pm 


KO

Calzaghe would of danced with them while unloading 150 punches per round, they would of not known what was happening, Boxing clinic, all the styles, complete boxer.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:32 pm 


1200 Techs

How about we see them fight…none of that “aww he would beat him” crap…

Posted September 28, 2013 11:31 pm 


Joseph Herron

You’re nuts, Anonymous…as much as I respect everyone’s opinion on this site…that’s absurd!!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:29 pm 


KO

Calzaghe, he beat everyone and would of beat Kovalev, Stevenson etc, he was too good, 46-0

Posted September 28, 2013 11:28 pm 


Anonymous

Kovalev would destroy Stevenson just as easily as GGG would hammer Mayweather. Both Kovalev and GGG are the best, no one will beat those two for a long time.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:27 pm 


The Prince

@Bears – I’m touched you care so much about the fighters I give credit to. Not confident enough in your favorites?

Posted September 28, 2013 11:26 pm 


1200 Techs

Stevenson vs Cloud was an entertaining fight!!!…I had a feeling that Cloud was on the “rain shadow” side of the mountain regarding his career and wouldn’t be able to make it rain tonight… stevenson stumblin over the mention of kovalev..lol…its all g…that fight can simmer..but hope they make it next year!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:26 pm 


Joseph Herron

To those who feel Kovalev would defeat Stevenson:

Has Kovalev ever faced anyone with the kind of world class power of Adonis Stevenon?

Well then we really have no idea how frequent he’ll let his hands go against a massive puncher who can also box like stevenson.

This fight has to happen, guys!

Sugar Hill has been telling us that Adonis is a much smarter fighter than most realize…we all saw that tonight.

Great fight!! Has to happen!!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:25 pm 


KO

Bears is bstard, idiot, not worth anything.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:24 pm 


yves from montreal

A lot of interesting fights for him in the future, Kovalev, Froch if he moves up, very likely the winner of Bute-Pascal…

Posted September 28, 2013 11:22 pm 


Tomato Can

Hey Bears are you a fight fan, or a race fan? WTF dude? You schtick is getting old man. Be a fan of the sport, and quit making every fight and fighter about race.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:21 pm 


KO

Even if Calzaghe got put down, straight back up like it never happened, and either knock you out, or beat you up for the rest of the fight, great fighter.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:20 pm 


Tomato Can

Nice, HBO made sure all their fighters made it to tonights showing, in carson. Good move..

Posted September 28, 2013 11:19 pm 


Anonymous

Stevenson ain’t that great, he’s already been KO’d by a Darnell Boone! Once he comes up against a good boxer, he’ll get KO’d again. Stevenson won’t be champion long.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:19 pm 


BEARS

Kovalev is number one at light heavyweight. You would be well suited to pick him over adonis in a win. Kovalev is THE BEAST!!!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:19 pm 


Tomato Can

Kovalev looks like a much more fluid boxer than Stevenson to me. I would pick Kovalev over Stevenson. But it’d be a good fight to see happen either way.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:16 pm 


KO

Froch is good, he will beat you up now, not as good as Calzaghe though, he would of beat anyone, Kovalev, he would of beat him like Lacy, too good, show you how to box, all styles, beat all styles.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:16 pm 


BEARS

The ONLY FIGHT AT LIGHT HEAVY WORTH MENTIONING is kovalev vs adonis. Please anyone that doesnt understand this is dense.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:15 pm 


Tomato Can

Froch wouldn’t like those punches landing on his mellon, but he’d offer more offense than Cloud did. I would pick Stevenson, based on his power alone.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:15 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

They asked Stevenson about Kovalev and he shat it.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:14 pm 


The Prince

Froch and Stevenson, judging by this performance, will be a good fight.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:13 pm 


Tomato Can

Karl Froch? WTF? Is he fighting at LH now?

Posted September 28, 2013 11:12 pm 


Boxtradamus

All you had to DO was watch the Dawson Fight. Stevenson isn’t a wild crude slugger. He knocked Dawson out with a calculated punch. Thats not wild LUCK. Thats SKILL…and Boxing IQ.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:12 pm 


Tomato Can

Stevenson is trying to be the whole package. He’s a little heavy on his feet, leaves himself open to counters, but his heavy hands make the difference. Wow, their making Stevenson into a boxer puncher. I wish him the best.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:11 pm 


KO

Carl Froch,he would of made Stevenson look average, he would of busted him up.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:11 pm 


Hey, That’s My Bike!!!

Cloud has no ticker, 3 fights in a row now he has given up mentally. I thought Stevenson was a bit of a plodder with wild hayemaker power. Tonight he moved really well and fought to a plan. Fairly impressive performance, get him in with Kovalev.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:10 pm 


The Prince

I’ll definitely will be watching more Stevenson fights. He won me over.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:10 pm 


Boxtradamus

That’s why you need to pay attention to MY P4P list. I had Stevenson on MY #0 P4P honorable mention. Cloud was #0 P4P with NO mention.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:09 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Stevenson better be willing to defend his titles/straps vs. “Krusher” Kovalev. That’s going to be HUGE fight at Light HW and it’s what all REAL boxing fans want to see.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:09 pm 


Tomato Can

Sugar Hill is doing a great job with Stevenson.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:08 pm 


The Prince

Yeah, but Cloud had the bigger name and Stevenson still had questions about his potential. Those questions were mostly answered.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:08 pm 


Boxtradamus

Just as I predicted on the DAY that the Fight was announced!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:08 pm 


JustSomeDude

Gotta admit, I thought Stevenson was just a puncher. He definitely is much more than that.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:07 pm 


Anonymous

Cloud is rubbish. Even the ring card girls could beat him. LMAO!

Posted September 28, 2013 11:07 pm 


Tomato Can

Alright lests see what Chubvez Jr. has tonight.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:07 pm 


Tomato Can

I would have figured Stevenson was the favorite tonight. I thought Cloud would have a hard time with him.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:05 pm 


PEEJ

Cloud is done. He is now just a gate keeper. Good win by Stevenson

Posted September 28, 2013 11:05 pm 


Tomato Can

You gotta like the way Stevenson goes for the kill though. Good corner, Cloud was taking a beating tonight.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:04 pm 


The Prince

Fights over. Good upset win by Stevenson.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:04 pm 


ben

Hows it looking

Posted September 28, 2013 11:04 pm 


Tomato Can

Cloud has taken some real heavy shots tonight. He’s getting damaged…

Posted September 28, 2013 11:02 pm 


Tomato Can

Cloud is showing a great chin though.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:01 pm 


The Prince

Cloud is getting that Buster Douglas style beatdown. An upset so far.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:00 pm 


Tomato Can

Easy fight for Stevenson thus far. 60-54 through 6.

Posted September 28, 2013 11:00 pm 


van

Fight update please for stevenson cloud? Thanks.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:59 pm 


Tomato Can

Cloud’s getting struck with lightning. lol

Posted September 28, 2013 10:56 pm 


Tachyon

Your saying its raining on Clound?

Posted September 28, 2013 10:53 pm 


Hey, That’s My Bike!!!

Anyone notice Stevenson starting to breathe heavy. This could get interesting if it goes past 8. Stevenson looking good at the moment though.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:53 pm 


Tomato Can

CLoud’s taking a beating already.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:52 pm 


Tomato Can

Stevenson looks much better when he’s fighting aggressively.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:49 pm 


Tomato Can

All Stevenson through 3. He’s boxing pretty good. A little sloppy though, but he’s winning easy.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:48 pm 


ben

Has the undercard been on yet.is pascal vs bute?

Posted September 28, 2013 10:42 pm 


ben

Cloud is slick but stevensons got a lot pf power saying that im think cloud w by ud

Posted September 28, 2013 10:41 pm 


Tomato Can

But Stevenson has to be the favorite by KO.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:34 pm 


Tomato Can

Damage will be done tonight no matter who wins.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:31 pm 


Tomato Can

Cloud’s going to have to walk through hey makers and land in order to have a chance. Easier said than done.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:26 pm 


Tomato Can

I didn’t know Steward predicted Stevenson to KO both Dawson and Cloud. Hmmm.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:22 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)

Prediction: Adonis by stoppage.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:21 pm 


Tomato Can

In about 10 mins or so.

Posted September 28, 2013 10:21 pm 


ben

What time is it starting?

Posted September 28, 2013 10:20 pm 


Tomato Can

Here we go!!!

Posted September 28, 2013 10:19 pm 


Tomato Can

yup

Posted September 28, 2013 9:55 pm 


Tachyon

Good fight we see if Superman blow out of Dawson was a fluke or not.

Posted September 28, 2013 9:36 pm 


Huh?

Cloud rips him – to skilled.

Posted September 28, 2013 8:59 pm 



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