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ThrashNephilim

DMX, analyzing the way you comment and what you say, it’s easy to see why your feelings are hurt. Don’t worry; you’ll have “your kinda champ” again some day…

Posted October 16, 2013 7:02 pm 


Adrian

Ok I see we both have similar opinions about Lewis and the klitchkos but i don’t get it why it bothered you and replied me on my post when I said klitchko was invited in jay Leno show?
I pointed that fact out to those who claim whooped klitchkos asss and to be in jay Leno show you won’t make it as a beaten man..!

Believe me I was rooting for Lewis before the klitchko fight because Lewis was my favorite boxer but I was shocked by vitalys courage and domination in the first round … He win me over and for those 6 rounds My scores are exactly the same as judges score but it dosent mean that if fight would continued that vitally would have won or wise versa and of course Lewis won but what I don’t agree is when they say that Lewis won because he was better that night , he wasn’t he won the fight because of injury not because he was ko’d !!!! What would happen if the fight would have continued we won’t know but surely Lewis didn’t win because he was better then him that night !

Posted October 16, 2013 9:47 am 


DMX

Who the hell is saying Klitschko wouldn’t last a round, certainly not me
I think The Klitschkos have their place in Heavyweight History
For me they are just outside the Top 10
It is sad that they were 10 years too late to carve their own history into the Heavyweight division
I would have loved to have seen Prime in shape Bowe (Holyfield I) fight Vitali
Someone who can soak it up like Oliver McCall (possibly the best Heavyweight Chin) soak it up against Wlad and how good would the last 4 x rounds be
If Wlad gassed himself hitting Lamont Brewster imagine him with McCall
How about Vitali v Ikebuchi both two of the most solid rock hard Heavyweights

We were denied these fights

Lewis proved it in that Era that is why he ALWAYS has to be held in higher esteem than the K’s

Posted October 16, 2013 9:01 am 


Adrian

I get it alright but you don’t, Lewis was my favorite boxer I am not saying he wasn’t good and that’s why I am saying it was a “great fight ” because both are ATG and that’s why Lewis finally met someone who can challange him …. And what I can’t stand is when klitchko haters say Lewis beat klitchko and to them losing the scorecard means nothing (it was just a fluke) and there was no need of a rematch because Lewis dominated vitally??!!!! And when you say “Americans were desperate” desperate for what ? Finding someone who can beat Lewis ? I thought there were not good hw boxers for a decade now and that’s the reason klitchkos are wining and not that are that good ? You are saying that there were no one good when Lewis was a champ? that’s why he was invited in jay Leno show but the fight never happened ..
So it pisses me off when klitchko haters now claim “klitchkos would not last a round with hw champions of a different era…

We are lucky that Lewis vs klitchko took place and we got a memorable fight if two ATG but I promise you if Lewis never fought vitally the klitchko haters will say vitally would not last a round with Lewis just as they are saying now about wlad that Lewis would wipe him out ..
Kapish?

Posted October 16, 2013 8:41 am 


DMX

Americans were desperate
to see someone . . . . . Anyone dethrone the British/Jamaican/Canadian undisputed King
That’s why Vitali got 10 minutes
It certainly was not for the Klitschkos song and dance routine

Lewis was the last of the Great Kings of the HW Division
We will never see his like again

What part of that do you not get

Posted October 16, 2013 7:26 am 


Adrian

Dmx he was once in jay Leno because of he fact that he won people’s hart and it was one of the best hw fight so at that time they thought Lewis and him were going to fight again as Lewis said after the fight ….

Lol so you are one of those who say he was invited because he was beadly beaten? Lmao!!

Posted October 16, 2013 5:59 am 


DMX

How many times has he been back on the Jay Leno Show?
Exactly
Because he has all the charm, charisma, and personality of a used sanitary towel

Thank You

Posted October 16, 2013 1:21 am 


Adrian

The reason Lewis retired if you ask klitchko haters was that there was no need for Lewis to fight vitally anymore because he destroyed him and proved that would beat him again easy *ahem*

And the night after the fight vitally was invited in jay Leno tonight show …I don’t think jay Leno invited vitally to see his cuts ?and I don’t think the audience was applauding and cheering him when he enter the studio just because they were exited to see his cuts ?

But if you ask klitchko haters they would claim that it’s not a big deal to on jay Leno show and they invited him to see his cuts … HahahahahahahahHahahaha

Posted October 15, 2013 9:51 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Lewis was a great champ. I would never deny that. But he just realised that night back in ’03 that he met an even GREATER champ in Vitali, therefore pushing him to make plans for a hasty retirement. He knew he wasn’t going to beat VK in a remtach. He knew VK simply had his number. No shame in that

Posted October 14, 2013 5:00 pm 


Lennox Louise

Vitali retired Lennox. Great champ though, no shame in that.

Posted October 14, 2013 4:54 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

Cosign at ThrashNephilim

Posted October 14, 2013 4:28 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Heavyweight truth, Lennox stopped Vitali via accumulation of big shots? What!?!?! The hell fight were you watchin’?!?!? You’re hilarious! I don’t know whether to laugh or feel bad at your severely altared view of what happened.

Posted October 14, 2013 4:23 pm 


ThrashNephilim

What a misguided legion! Gracious is not a fitting word for a pompous, self righteous, prideful, boastful boxer such as Lewis! Wlad’s hugging was bad against Povetkin but Lewis was hugging Vitali alot in that fight. Not justifying the kick but I could see where he would be getting irritated at Lewis. The same as I’m sure Povetkin getting pissed with Wlad.

Posted October 14, 2013 2:20 pm 


Mjb

Heavyweight Trutj, great point I didn’t even think of that. Lennox picked the man up and that unsportsmanlike behemoth tried to kick him. Great point.

Posted October 14, 2013 2:09 pm 


Johann

Lennox’s post fight interview wasn’t the most gracious. ‘I don’t even know what you’re on about, Larry!’, he kept saying! Lennox wasn’t always the best sportsman, at all.

Posted October 14, 2013 1:08 pm 


TJ

DMX

TOTALLY love your picks of PAT BARRETT and my all time favourite Brit fighter CARL CAT THOMPSON!!! Ricky Hatton used to spar the Flash in his coming up days in Manchester and says Barrett hit him the hardest he’s ever been hit.
Like the Cat, Barrett was exciting and he was a big hitter with the left hook! My mate introduced me to him a year back and he is a total gentleman!

Posted October 14, 2013 12:18 pm 


john

a wise man said ten years ago,hw boxing is wrestling without the costumes.

Posted October 14, 2013 10:43 am 


nameless

I remember that kick……..Vitali is a mardy bum when he doesnt get his way.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:56 am 


Anonymous

klit bros. they have faced some real hard men, look at haye and chisora.LOL.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:41 am 


HeavyweightTruth

Assyrian God – I uncannily also thought of the Herol Graham vs Julian Jackson example and I don’t even think that’s a good example,as herol was EMBARASSING Jackson,winning every round,until he got careless and walked onto that massive punch…..so Herol had a case for a rmatch..with Vitali and Lennox,VK didn’t lose from just a single lucky punch,if he did,i’d have sympathy for VK deserving a rematch,but Lennox stopped VK via an accumulation of big shots….I think I might go watch the Bomber vs Hawk fight again!

Posted October 14, 2013 9:08 am 


HeavyweightTruth

One of the most telling actions in the Lewis – VK fight,in terms of their TRUE character,was when they both tripped over together,VK tried to kick Lennox (an illegal move in boxing)and Lennox,a true champion with real dignity,in response he offers his hand and helps Vitali get up.That tells you all you need to know right there.Lennox Lewis,ATG,HOFer,last Undisputed heavyweight champ,beat EVERY man he faced professionally,warrior,gentleman,LEGEND.

Posted October 14, 2013 8:56 am 


DMX

Mrs Lewis, Lennox’s dear Momma begged him to retire
Mrs Klitschko , W & V Sour faced old Mother forbid her two big gormless sons to fight each other

Always listen to your Mother, she knows best

Posted October 14, 2013 7:11 am 


nameless

Tko6. The peoples champ doest hug 182 times and pull the unwilling BJ move

Posted October 14, 2013 7:00 am 


ThrashNephilim

He’s been reduced to a harping low hard and now talks return ONLY when Vitali is preoccupied. This speaks in volumes to the half braindead cretins in denial.

Posted October 14, 2013 6:45 am 


ThrashNephilim

Lewis is just not a people’s champ. That’s been proven that he is not for the very people that made his check possible. There’s no shame in it but it must at the same time be seen for what it is.

Posted October 14, 2013 6:43 am 


DMX

Tried recently to buy Laings book ” the Gifted One”
Obviously out of print now
OMG even a second hand copy on eBay was over $250

He was hilarious and apparently used to regularly get the better of Honeyghan when Micky Duff let them spar
Great night when his dispatched of George Collins and got interviewed wearing the Londsdale belt upside down, interviewer could get no sense out of him whatsoever

Posted October 14, 2013 6:23 am 


AssyrianGod

@DMX, good list, I think Calzaghe was better than them, but some of his fights were not. Shame about Laing, he was supremely gifted but wasted his talent.

Posted October 14, 2013 5:32 am 


DMX

Assyrian
In that list, the UK fighters I enjoyed watching the most were

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Naseem Hamed
3. Chris Eubank
4. Carl Froch
5. Carl Thompson
6. Nigel Benn
7. Kirkland Laing
8. Lloyd Honeyhan
9. Herbie Hide
10. Pat Barrett

Debatable if they were the best of British, I think they would be up there
but Christ they were exciting to watch

Posted October 14, 2013 5:15 am 


nameless

Those that can do, those that cant lie about teaching it on the internet. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and dont eat yellow snow

Posted October 14, 2013 2:45 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Fixed it for you Tard “After a while we just know Tark is full of it.”.
At least Lennox knows who he is training, and hasn’t made up stories as you have about all the champs you have trained…

Posted October 13, 2013 9:00 pm 


Anonymous

cosign

Posted October 13, 2013 6:29 pm 


Kgb

Mike Hunt is completely correct. LL retired by VK. Lewis was great but that’s not the point. VK was waiting for him again, so Lewis hung them up. No shame, people.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:28 pm 


Mjb

Mike Hunt, yes Lennox retired on his own terms having given Vitali a beating. You are correct.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:49 pm 


Mike Hawk

Sounds about right.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:11 pm 


Mike Hunt

Lennox waited months to retire. Vitali smashed up Kirk Johnson in the meantime. Lennox had to fight Vitali again to keep the WBC belt. He chose to retire. That was his choice and his right…Vitali then became The Man…Vitali showed LL his time in world championship boxing was done.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:51 am 


AssyrianGod

British Boxing has been pretty healthy since the 1970′s. Considering Britain has very few Pro Boxers compared to the USA, Mexico etc it has produced many champs; In the 70′s there was John Conteh, John H Stracey, Ken Buchanan, Jim Watt, Maurice Hope, Alan Minter etc, as well as top contenders like Chris Finnegan and Joe Bugner.
In the 80′s there was Lloyd Honeyghan, Charlie Magri, Barry McGuigan, Terry Marsh, Cornelius Boza Edwards, Dennis Andries, Glenn McCrory etc, as well as top fighters such as Frank Bruno, Tony Sibson, ark Kaylor, Kirklaind Laing, Pat Cowdell, Johnny Owen, Charlie Nash, Jim McDonnell etc.
90′s and 2000′s Britain has had many World Title Holders – Heavy; Lennox Lewis,Frank Bruno, Herbie Hide, Henry Akinwande and David Haye. Cruiser; Johnny Nelson, Glenn McCrory, Carl Thompson, Enzo Maccarinelli, David Haye. Light Heavy; Dennis Andries, Nathan Cleverley, Clinton Woods, Joe Calzaghe. Super Middle; Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Joe Calzaghe, Richie Woodhall, Robin Reid, Carl Froch, Brian agee, Glenn Catley. Middle; Benn, Eubank, Chris Pyatt, Darren Barker….list goes on!

Posted October 13, 2013 8:39 am 


JOEY

went to england last year. i thought i was in poland.

Posted October 13, 2013 8:30 am 


john

the good old days in britain went years ago.

Posted October 13, 2013 8:18 am 


Hidalgo aint right

And most Lewis fans are middle aged brits who spend too much time in the pub remenincing about what they considered the good ole days

Posted October 13, 2013 8:06 am 


Anonymous

most of these klit bros fans are no more than 17 year old. they would not know what a real great is.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:14 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Soory, my post was for The Prince, not Anonymous

Posted October 13, 2013 6:56 am 


Hidalgo aint right

You’ll find that most of the K- fans and general boxing fans are merely either responding to the hypocrisy of Lewis himself, or the idiocy of his loyal but dwindling fan base. That type of hypocrisy and idiocy is hard to ignore

Posted October 13, 2013 6:48 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Anonymous, if Lewis is so great why is HE so obsessed with the Klitschkos? Firstly by giving “advice” to the likes of Haye, Sanders, and Chisora before their bouts. Failing miserably at training the next so called threat to the K-Reign (that rhymes, and a nice ring to it it has too!), Price. And now holding an X Factor audition in order to find (hope to find) some heavyweight that he can train to pry those belts away. It is plain as day that he’s so insecure at the on-going dominance of the brothers (resulting in his contribution to the sport growing smaller and smaller with each passing year). And because He’s so insecure, it rubs off on his fans too who have to resort to embellishing the truth like “Lewis ‘pummeled Vitali into submission and proved how great he was” yadayadayada

Posted October 13, 2013 6:46 am 


Anonymous

The Prince

If Lennox is so great, why are his fans still so obsessed about Wlad and Vitali???

Posted October 13, 2013 4:31 am 


Adrian

The price said “During Lewis’ two losses he was also up on the scorecards and then he got caught. That’s what can happen in a boxing match”

And you just proved my point that being ahead on scorecard who is winning a fight and can see most of the time who is a better fighter and that’s why Lewis in his rematch beat them because he was better then them and if he didn’t get a chance to rematch them what then??

Posted October 13, 2013 3:07 am 


Reem

Boxing doesn`t need people like you. You are a cancer on boxing.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:02 am 


nameless

Wlad robs the fans of a good fight EVERY time with his man hug/BJ tactic. I believe what Vitali said on the matter, not his “fans”……

Posted October 13, 2013 3:00 am 


Reem

You are scum TARK.

SCUM.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:57 am 


ThrashNephilim

I don’t mean to be so damning but you really don’t find any wrong with a single thing he did. Not as K2 fan but as an absolute fan of the sport, you have to want for more than the rematch he robbed us, the fans of. Hell with the Klitschkos even, this is a matter of pleasing the people that have payed his income.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:45 am 


ThrashNephilim

Nameless, you’re clearly dumbed down for your responses. You’re no fan of boxing. You have a crush.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:24 am 


nameless

Thats why he was talking of quitting in 2000, pre tyson and why Ian Darke said as “a sight we never thought we woild see again. Lennox Lewis walking to the ring”. Good point well made. Clinical objectivity as ever

Posted October 13, 2013 2:19 am 


TARK

Lewis didn’t want to retire until he was forced to rematch Vitali… He was out there trying to get a rematch with Tyson.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:18 am 


TARK

…., “Rahman’s win was a fluke”

There’s nothing flukier than a guy winning a fight on all scorecards and having a referee who ingores fouls… So when the fight is stopped it doesn’t go to the scorecards like it should have… And having the crowd boo the winner out of the arena and cheer the loser.

Nothing begs for a rematch as much as a fluke fight like that.

Rahman got put Lewis out in 5… So in those cases, unless you’re the World Champion, you never get a rematch.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:03 am 


nameless

Lewis was talking about retirement in 2000. He earnt the right to chose when he retires…..a right most workers have

Posted October 13, 2013 2:02 am 


nameless

Nope – Lewis had to sue: Lewis immediately sought a rematch with the new champion; however, Rahman, now being promoted by Don King, tried to secure another opponent for his inaugural title defence. Lewis took Rahman to court to honour the rematch clause in their contract. Rahman was ordered to honour the clause and give Lewis a rematch in his first title defence.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:01 am 


ThrashNephilim

Lewis threw a wrench in any chance of that avenue for Vitali, didn’t he?

Posted October 13, 2013 2:00 am 


nameless

Was it Mccall im thinking of? Also previous citation of an error required.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:59 am 


TARK

nameless.., You are WRONG AGAIN..

Lewis got his rematch with Rahman less than 7 months later.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:56 am 


nameless

You forgot that Leiws had to sue Rahman and wait two years for his rematch

Posted October 13, 2013 1:27 am 


ThrashNephilim

Of course Rahman’s win was a fluke. Didn’t Lewis prove that in a REMATCH? Wow! there gos that word you hate so much again! Boy, Rahman has respect for fans and acted like a champ. I find it a bit selfish to have someone grant you a rematch but when it’s your time to do the same you opt out. NO CLASS! And if you call yourself a boxing fan you should have wanted to see a rematch as well. Klitschko fans were not solely robbed, boxing fans as a whole were robbed! If you don’t feel the same, clearly other motivations such as dislike for the Ks, ethnicity,..Etc.. cloud your processes. Only difference is that Lewis was stopped for snoring and Vitali was stopped by a cut. So, having said that, you, yourself need to stop avoiding the obvious.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:00 am 


TARK

BTW.., Heads cause cuts inside the mouth a punches don’t often cause them. Why is that??? Heads are as hard as rocks.. The legal striking surface of a boxing glove is padded, and the knuckles are also heavily padded with wrappings.. Getting knocked with a head is very likely to cause a cut wherever the impact is.. You can be struck 100′s of times with legal punches in a fight and will likely suffer no cuts at all unless you’re a bleeder like Henry Cooper.. Vitali has never been a bleeder.

However, thumb strikes… hammer blows (delivered like you would pound on a desk with the edge of the glove)… raking with the palm or heel of the glove… or raking with the wrist sleeve of he glove can all cause serious cuts very easily… When that happens a referee is supposed to stop the action, examine the cut, and notify the judges that the cut was casued by accidental or deliberate illegal contact… Then if the fight needs to be halted because of the cut, and four rounds have passed, the fight will go to the scorecards.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:59 pm 


Dino

What Planet is this guy living on. 100Mil? yeah right.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:32 pm 


K2 Fan

This is funny ! That poor bastard Nameless/Brainless just can’t
catch a break , just when he was in mid-gloat , ” the kid is giving him hell ” ( referring to Lomachenko – Ramirez ) ; BANG goes Lomachenko and Ramirez is out in FOUR ! Not bad for a debut against a guy who has never been out . Eat your heart out Brainless ! I just wish it was a russian instead of Ramirez that Lomachenko KTFO , it would have made it that much sweeter !

Posted October 12, 2013 11:22 pm 


ThrashNephilim

The more you post the more evident and clear it becomes.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:25 pm 


The Prince

If Vitali and Wlad are so great, why are their fans still so obsessed about Lennox Lewis? Why are they still defending and making excuses for Vitali who lost? I never heard any other fighter whom lost by getting stop had such excuses made for them by their fans. It’s also hypocritical. During Lewis’ two losses he was also up on the scorecards and then he got caught. That’s what can happen in a boxing match, especially at the HW division. Yet you don’t hear these Klit fans claiming that Rahman landed a fluke KO punch. No, they use that as an excuse to try and discredit Lewis’ ATG career. Yet with Vitali, him being up on the scorecards until rounds 6 means he really won the fight and anything that happened afterwards doesn’t count and was a fluke. Pathetic.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad is Tops for THIS ERA…

Posted October 12, 2013 8:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Anyone saying Vitali Klitscko is the “BEST HW of all time” needs to be SHOT… This guy is NOT even the best of his own era!!!! Wlad is the Top HW so that pisses on that argument… Vitali has ONE belt whereas Lewis, Holy, Tyson and even Bowe have been Undisputed Champs, Klits is a single belt holder with a WEAK resume, Bears licking his taint and a spank mag with Lennox Lewis mauling his face in it…

Posted October 12, 2013 8:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, how in the world did Bradley NOT beat Provodnikov ???? Fact is despite a beating he outpointed Ruslan pretty clearly… I know UOU wanted the ref to NOT allow Bradley the Champion to continue but that’s just more of you wanting to change history to suit your needs… Bradley was in a MAJOR controversy against Pacquaio he got respect for digging in against Provodnikov and winning despite being badly hurt…. Must you steal credit from EVERY fighter?? It’s a serious bore

Posted October 12, 2013 8:15 pm 


ThrashNephilim

This argument is valid on both ends. Lewis won but didn’t rematch and instead opted to retire. This renders him prey to the wrath of the fans that felt there needed to be closure one way or another. Since this didn’t happen, fans on both sides will and are perfectly entitled to their own reality and opinion. Every action has a reaction. His retirement after trash talk and giving his ok to a rematch is not fitting of a linear, undisputed heavyweight champ and thus makes him subject to backlash from fans. As for saying “he won and that’s it”, it’s not that simple. You see, FANS pay for the tickets which are his (and all other boxers) income. With such division, and being the main man on the pedestal, there can only be 1 or 2 reasons he chose to retire. 1) he doesn’t consider the fans that pay his income or 2) fear made him choose to retire. Both are ugly. But this is just rhetoric.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:02 pm 


Cliff Richard

STFU K2 Fan and get back to hosting your scat and p!ss party.

Posted October 12, 2013 7:47 pm 


AssyrianGod

Being ahead on the cards means nothing. I remember Herol Graham totally humiliating Julian Jackson for every second of every minute of every round, before walking into one single huge shot. Nobody ever said Graham deserved a rematch, or that Jackson got lucky, or his legacy was tarnished. Lewis WON that fight; He busted up Vitali’s face, and took the last 2 rounds. Vitali had a good start, so what? Boxing is littered with title fights where one fighter started better and then lost. Should Lewis have given Vitali a rematch? Yes. Did Lewis really lose the fight or get lucky? No way!

Posted October 12, 2013 7:42 pm 


Anonymous

Bears has been talking cr*p since 04. Totally foolish child. Moron.

Posted October 12, 2013 6:26 pm 


BEARS

vivek wallace has lauded vitaly with some of the best praise i have ever seen. he knows well who vitaly has fought. i even have his articles saved that said its a stretch to think ali could defeat vitaly and vitaly is probably the best fighter all time. so heavyweight truth didnt even know the truth about vitaly outlanding lennox every round. what we have in heavyweight truth is a boxrec specialist who thinks be knows boxing. boxrec’ers couldnt possibly know boxing

Posted October 12, 2013 6:17 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Under one condition I would be for Lewis coming back. That would be to give some comeuppance to Deontay Wilder. I don’t care to see him and Wlad because he’s been out so long and Wladimir also looked horrible against Povetkin. Wilder/Lewis would be good because Lewis is old and hasn’t fought in a decade, while Deontay is young and powerful but has been a bum slayer to date. Would Lewis’ ring generalship and mega fight experience supercede ring rust or could Wilder’s right hand make 100 million seem like Lewis almost earned it by getting a beat down from Wilder via the Wilder’s right hand?

Posted October 12, 2013 6:13 pm 


HeavyweightTruth

Hidalgo ain’t right- the fact you are proud that Vitali’s best win is Corrie Sanders tells me all I need to know,that u r either about 14 years old or have an IQ of about the same….Sanders was an out of shape, over the hill,part time boxer,golf pro,so the best swing he had was outside of a boxing ring…Pathetic,laughable,I suppose u think the earth was created 6,000 years ago….

Posted October 12, 2013 6:09 pm 


K2 Fan

Cliff Richard , CLIFF RICHARD ; my , what a masculine sounding ,
MANLY name , has almost a ” rocky ” sound to it ! Too bad it’s so misleading ; Nancy Crack , would fit much better ! I tought that the
” goosey ” , efeminite , tit – for – tat style ( pardon the pun , Nancy ) sounded familiar . Why DO they have to change their names , when they come out of the closet ?!

Posted October 12, 2013 6:00 pm 


HeavyweightTruth

And Vitali lost a huge chunk of his face.And lost a potential win.

Posted October 12, 2013 5:50 pm 


Cliff Richard

nope!! not hidalgo…

Posted October 12, 2013 5:38 pm 


Cliff Richard

he’s a long time poster on east side

so is sredmond…

Posted October 12, 2013 5:36 pm 


Cliff Richard

BEARS.. Just having a giggle as usual dude.. Cheers.

Posted October 12, 2013 5:26 pm 


BEARS

cliff is the old GOOSEY he is not sredmond. he’s a long time poster on east side

Posted October 12, 2013 5:22 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond your new nick is Cliff richards now? Hahahahaha…. It’s soooo obvious it’s you it’s hilarious …. Cliff Richards hahAhahahahaha

Posted October 12, 2013 5:20 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

Dunno who this “real” or “fake” Cliff Richard is but I do know that I’m a fan of his “40 Golden Classics” album, that one is in my collection, and I’ve no problem with saying that :)

Posted October 12, 2013 5:18 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

I most certainly am the fake no one. As I’ve said from the get go, I accept Lewis got a boxrec win so I’m not gonna pretend to be others says “Lewis lost”. He “won”. It’s just “how” he won and the stench that will follow him forever more that I’m merely talking about. Suck it up groupies :)

Posted October 12, 2013 5:15 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

Lewis lost a huge chunk of respect and and an even bigger chunk of his legacy after that night at the staples. Get over it.

Posted October 12, 2013 5:14 pm 


Cliff Richard

Thanks for clearing that one up…

Posted October 12, 2013 5:13 pm 


Cliff Richard

Hidalgo, is the fake Cliff then… Lol.. Cheers Hidalgo,..

Posted October 12, 2013 5:12 pm 


Cliff Richard

Lewis lost. Get over it.

Posted October 12, 2013 5:07 pm 


HHLondon

Hidalgo, Klitschko lost. Get over it.

Posted October 12, 2013 4:51 pm 


ThrashNephilim

And Reality & Pimp are the same poster, FYI

Posted October 12, 2013 4:19 pm 


ThrashNephilim

To the one that think LL is so super smart and cerebral, I ask you this: why in the hell would that kind of cash be raised for a Lewis return against anyone on the planet if he couldn’t keep himself in shape over a decade ago? He’s not thinking logically. Apparently the accumulation of punches in his career (including the one in the second round he are from Vitali Klitschko that almost put his head out in the 5th row) have clouded his reasoning.

Posted October 12, 2013 4:13 pm 


FELCHER

Hello Bears darling! You know how i like ”bearrrs”

Posted October 12, 2013 4:09 pm 


Reality

Bears, but this was no decision. It was a tko!!!! The way ur naman likes it from ghetto boys. I feel ur pain xxx

Posted October 12, 2013 3:58 pm 


BRUCE

does anybody know if billy muslim boy found his little hat.

Posted October 12, 2013 3:48 pm 


Cliff Richard

BEARS.. “im pretty badass when comes to east side. so is tark and k2 and adrian and the others on the team.” Lol.. One of “The Team” boasted about how Vitali knocked out Frank Bruno in two rounds, after Burno had nearly knocked out Tyson.. I guess he must be the “TEAM LEADER.” Looks like Sherlock has to come out of retirement again… After his summer holiday….

Posted October 12, 2013 3:25 pm 


BEARS

boxrec says bradley beat prov and helenius beat chisora too. lol fights are not aleays judged of officiated properly

Posted October 12, 2013 3:24 pm 


Cliff Richard

Tommy Steele.

Posted October 12, 2013 3:15 pm 


Cliff Richard

Wrong again!!

Posted October 12, 2013 3:12 pm 


Reality

Bears, according to Boxrex Vitali got tko’d by Lennox. Is that true? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

Posted October 12, 2013 2:59 pm 


K2 Fan

Hidalgo A’int Right ; Is right …… AGAIN ! And it’ driving those
poor little girls crazy ! They really got their panties in a bundle . No need to name you , you all know who and or WHAT you are ! Ta – ta
for now ladies !

Posted October 12, 2013 2:51 pm 


BEARS

when it comes to boxing i am the light and the way. he that believeth my posts will have everlasting boxing knowledge

Posted October 12, 2013 2:34 pm 


Anonymous

to many window lickers on here.

Posted October 12, 2013 2:31 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

all these typos….wtf, I meant “VK was NOT” not “that”

Posted October 12, 2013 1:21 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

HHHLondon “Rahman and McCall actually have bigger legacy shouts when it comes to Lennox Lewis as they actually BEAT Lewis” You conveniently FORGET to mention that both also were knocked out, VK was that. That neither managed to whup LL four rounds to two, and setting up a rematch, which is exactly what VK did. So come again, how do both those wannabes hold a “bigger legacy shout”?? Lewis believed in himself that he could take those two guys in a rematch. He was right. Lewis also believed there was NO WAY he could have taken Vitali in a rematch. He was also right. Hence his hasty retirment like a thief in the night. Forever to be referred to as the “Yellow-Belly Champion”.

Posted October 12, 2013 1:20 pm 


rjhill

The heavyweight division is still the powerhouse of boxing,with very big men one cannot expect the same quickness as the lower divisions.There are none of the lower divisions that could hold up to the raw power of the heavy,s.They would be sent reeling helplessly.Of corse there is not the same punch output of these big men.

Posted October 12, 2013 1:16 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

*typo!! lol

Posted October 12, 2013 1:15 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

Sorry type – 41-2 (2)-1 LOL

Posted October 12, 2013 1:14 pm 


Hidalgo aint right

Dumbo Redmond says “During the 90′s they ONLY had the WBO belts ie beating Herbie Hide! Wlad did not REALLY start picking up major World Titles till what??” You make it sound like Lewis and the Klitschkos turned professional side by side. Lewis turned professional in the summer of 1889, and the Klitschkos at the very end of 1996. So tell me, what major strap did Lewis achieve within three years of a pro?? If the answer in NONE (which it is) then you can discard that “90′s argument” as to some how proving that Lewis and co kept the brothers off their rightful throne. Don’t make me larf! In fact thanks for bringing that up though dumbo because if you really want to get technical about it, both brothers won a major strap considerably shorter into their professional careers than the cowadly lion could manage (it took LL over 4 years in before he beat Tucker via 12 round snoozefest for his first strap). Also your Marciano and Calzaghe examples are the ones that DON’T correlate. The reason neither are widely considered GOAT is because retiring undefeated was really their ONLY milestone. The Klitschkos are breaking milestones left right and centre as we speak. VK is currently the 2nd oldest heavyweight champ the sport has ever witnessed (and the oldest to still be fighting at the top level). He also has the 2nd highest KO %. He’s the only ATG champ to never be off his feet or behind on the cards. Wlad just broke another milestone on Saturday, winning a world title fight with the WIDEST points margin in history. That compliments the fact that he’s currently the second longest reigning champ in history with the 2nd highest number of defences. What the hell kind of mile stone has Lewis ever achieved in his measly career?

Posted October 12, 2013 1:09 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond “Lewis NEVER “LOST” on the cards because the bout was only 50% over when he punched Klitschkos ticket… That MEASLEY 2 point lead and pretending this was a 6 round fight simply illustrate the frustration of Klit fans.. Lewis was NOT letting Vitali go 12 rounds with him and he kept hammering away to great effect an insured it didn’t… “the cards” HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I’m sure Pacquiao is staring at the cards after Marquez flattened him…”

Lol… you lost it bro really are you ok? You can’t change the fact that Lewis was behind in the scorecards no matter how hard you try to change those facts here ..lol they can’t be changed … Yes Lewis got the win but by a stoppage from a ring doctor because of a nasty cut but he wasn’t flatten like paqiao by Marquez like you bark on your post .! Lol you wished that had happen but it didn’t or do you want to claim that , that actualy happened lol… Unbelievable

Posted October 12, 2013 1:09 pm 


Cliff Richard

Wlad?

Posted October 12, 2013 12:55 pm 


Dora The Anal Explorer

Spotted a typo. Whoooo!

Posted October 12, 2013 12:54 pm 


Cliff Richard

Nope!!! It was NOT K2. Guess again!!

Posted October 12, 2013 12:53 pm 


Cliff Richard

Demon

“stupic???? OK” Yeah, it’s a typo. Never get those on ESB eh?

Posted October 12, 2013 12:51 pm 


Adrian

“SREDMOND

Adrian, you’re DESPERATE Tyson stopped Bruno 2x and when did Vitali beat Frank Bruno again? What’s the date of that bout? As for Tyson being upset by Douglas the only reason it’s a more discussed defeat is that Tyson was more accomplished than Wlad when Wlad let a fighter who was WAY worse than Douglass stop him!!!! Ross Purrity had more losses than Douglass, Holyfield and Lewis had put together when they respectively stopped Mike Tyson… Corrir Sanders was of course a part time fighter when he BLEW Wlad out in 2 pathetic rounds… So what’s your thought on that and when did Vitali beat Bruno? I don’t even see a record of them fighting, you making things up again?”

I meant herbie hide not Bruno I stand corrected however your comparison of wlads losses to Tyson’s Douglas loss is dead wrong as always … First when Tyson lost to Douglas he got exposed and showed us thAt he is one dimensional fighter that rely only on explosivity and intimidation as soon as you neutralize thAt he was a punching bag unlike wlad who after those loses early in his carrier became much better and as a fighter overall and who dominates for a DECADE now … Say isn’t so:)

Posted October 12, 2013 12:48 pm 


Demon

stupic???? OK

Posted October 12, 2013 12:48 pm 


Cliff Richard

stupid..

Posted October 12, 2013 12:42 pm 


Cliff Richard

By the stupic gap K2Fan always leaves when using punctuation marks I could tell that the fake Cliff Richard comment below was posted by him.. Lol. What an idiot K2Fan is.

Posted October 12, 2013 12:42 pm 


DMX

Vitali Won the WBO title off a Cruiserweight that Bowe had knocked down 9 x times

Posted October 12, 2013 12:35 pm 


SREDMOND

During the 90′s they ONLY had the WBO belts ie beating Herbie Hide! Wlad did not REALLY start picking up major World Titles till what?? 2006? After everyone had died off and the coast was clear…These Klit fans are FORCED to try and sell Corrie Sanders who was a step above a journeyman as some sort of HW Great when his ONLY claim to fame was knocking Wlad to the floor while Bloated and thinking about retooling his Golf Swing…

Posted October 12, 2013 12:30 pm 


DMX

Put the Klitschkos in with the 90′s Heavyweights
They would have won a couple, lost a couple
Maybe pick up a WBU or WBO strap along the way

They would find that there is a world of difference between thumping Danny Williams about and then having a snarling Lennox , Ikebuchi or Bowe eyeballing you from the opposite corner

It would have been feeding time

Posted October 12, 2013 12:27 pm 


joey

today”s heavyweight”s are all bums.

Posted October 12, 2013 12:16 pm 


SREDMOND

HH London, your statement below is 1000% correct! Thats what these psycho Klit fans cannot get they somehow seek to pull the wool over the public’s eyes and position winning 4 rounds and stopped as superior to Rahman and McCall flattening Lewis (McCall TKOed him).. Nowhere in boxing HISTORY would such comparative results be in real debate unless a Klit fan is the one doing the arguing…These guys LOVE to point to the Klits gaudy KO records but when their men are the ones on the BAD side of a stoppage they suddenly wanna discuss where they were on “the cards” when the plug was pulled for their own safety…

Posted October 12, 2013 12:15 pm 


HHLondon

Rahman and McCall actually have bigger legacy shouts when it comes to Lennox Lewis as they actually BEAT Lewis, whereas all Klitschko has to offer is nicking a few rounds over the plump-end-of-his-career-ATG and HOF Lennox Lewis.

Posted October 12, 2013 12:07 pm 


Cliff Richard

Sorry … I didn’t take my pills today …

Posted October 12, 2013 12:05 pm 


Cliff Richard

Yet another comment sails way over K2Fans head..

Posted October 12, 2013 11:53 am 


DMX

K2
By the term “fight”I think you will find he was referring to a “tear up”
Not a jab fest

Posted October 12, 2013 11:52 am 


SREDMOND

That cut was NOT a “Fluke” it was a direct result of him getting punched in the face and if it was such a “fluke” then why was the man saddled with 4 other “Cuts” nicely giftwrapped to go along with that one… The “Fluke” was that he was in the ring with Lennox Lewis who unlike 99.9% of the rest of his foes was BIG enough, STRONG enough and hit HARD enough to NOT just sit safely on the end of Klits jab while he was pounded to mush like Adamek… No Lewis was gonna get his despite Vitalis arm punches and Klits tissues unaccustomed to that level of abuse yielded under the BlOWS that Lewis landed on him….

Posted October 12, 2013 11:46 am 


K2 Fan

Another ” goodie ” by Hopeles/Brainless ; ” Wlad hates a fight “….
Yeah , that’s probably why he has about 20 MORE than the cowardly
” lion ” ! What a dope !

Posted October 12, 2013 11:38 am 


DMX

Well put HH . . . . . The voice of Reason
A lot of the Eastern Block Heavies were on the ROIDs during that period

Posted October 12, 2013 11:07 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo ain’t right, what’s the apex of Vitalis career? You have been trying to sell him getting his face stove in by Lewis as his “Coup de gras” what a SAD “apex” having an OLD ATG bust you up and stop you while you won 4 rounds of a scheduled 12 round fight… If this is the BEST moment of your career then what does that say about the rest of it?? Not much and nothing very impressive….No wind over HOFERS, ATGs or historically significant boxers…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:04 am 


HHLondon

Klitchko did not beat Lennox Lewis as on the advice of the ringside Dr Wallace, Referee Lou Moret stopped the fight in the 6th, Lennox Lewis having opened up a SECOND vagina, this time on the face of already convicted (1996 Atlanta Olympics) drug cheat Vitali Klitchko who went on to feign injury on numerous occasions and ducking mandatory championship fight after fight.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:00 am 


Boxing-Fan

he aint worth $1million!!!

Posted October 12, 2013 10:57 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo ain’t right, boxing and Tennis don’t correlate there is always a subjective and qualitative component as it pertains to level of competition in boxing which is inescapable… It’s the reason that Rocky Marciano who retired 49-0 is NOT widely considered the “best ever” nor is “Joe Calzaghe 46-0″….The focal point of your arguments (Vitali beat Lewis on some other planet/moral victory) is the result of you trying to get that boost on Vitalis anemic resume, if all fighters were the same you would simply tell us the virtues of Sam Peter and not let the Lewis victory haunt your sleep so intensely…

Posted October 12, 2013 10:49 am 


Anonymous

why are you idiots still talking about these klit bums.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:43 am 


SREDMOND

The Klits are VERY closely associated with words like BORING, DULL, AND UNWATCHABLE…They are effective, and clearly win against the tier of opposition they have been pitted against, that said they preside over the weakest HW Division in recent memory the late Manny Steward Wlads trainer called it WEAK…The Klits need for order in the ring has produced rancid contests like Haye and Povetkin… HBO will be loathe to air another they simply DONT deliver as it pertains to action..

Posted October 12, 2013 10:41 am 


Hidalgo aint right

The pleasure was all mine DMX, trust me ;)

Posted October 12, 2013 10:34 am 


DMX

Thank You
It’s been a pleasure

Posted October 12, 2013 10:30 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you the archetypal Lewis fangirl DMX; “Too many Great Fights and Great nights to mention

Where do you start . . . Rahman ii was a magnificent performance
Klitschko would have been seriously hurt that night

The assault on Andrew Gollota
Thankfully they didn’t press charges

Morrison, Tyson, Razor Ruddock, all horrific knockouts

Lennox’s power was truly chilling to witness” I’ll just leave that quote there LOL

Posted October 12, 2013 10:27 am 


Meh

its both you moron…but nadal is making a claim and yet del po just blazed him!

Posted October 12, 2013 10:26 am 


Hidalgo aint right

And while you’re chewing Dumbo. You’re great at slating the careers of the brothers, particularly big bro Vitali. So then tell me, what again was the apex of the career of Lewis?

Posted October 12, 2013 10:26 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Notice how when Dumbo talks about the career of Vitali, the only four fighters he mentions are “Kevin Johnson, Sosnowski, OLD Brigg, and Charr” Talk about an obvious and futile attempt at Klit Hate Propaganda!! Man this Dumbo Poster is my favourite, no offence DMX, Nameless et al’ But Dumbo is far and wide the best for unintential comical value. Anyway Dumbo, why do you think Federer is regarded as the greatest ever?? Is is because of his “style” of play? Or is it because of his “statistical achievements”?? Chew on that one

Posted October 12, 2013 10:24 am 


DMX

Too many Great Fights and Great nights to mention

Where do you start . . . Rahman ii was a magnificent performance
Klitschko would have been seriously hurt that night

The assault on Andrew Gollota
Thankfully they didn’t press charges

Morrison, Tyson, Razor Ruddock, all horrific knockouts

Lennox’s power was truly chilling to witness

Posted October 12, 2013 10:22 am 


SREDMOND

Nasal and Federer don’t correlate, Federer is probably the Greatest ever.. The Klits are statistical Hall of Famers, that said their resumes are WEAK Vitalis plain tragic, Kevin Johnson, Sosnowski, OLD Brigg, and Charr…the Klits could not become forces till Lewis and the rest of the 90′s greats retired… Wlad was still getting knocked out in 2004 even though he began in 96 or so…Add to that their uninspired performances and you have a couple of guys that leave you FLAT…

Posted October 12, 2013 10:19 am 


nameless

I’ve no idea why you think anyone would remember that? It was a joke fight. Vitali cheated and his own Dr saved his ass.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:18 am 


Hidalgo aint right

DMX “Higgledy Giggledy Do
“Don’t be a Sauerkraut all your life”
Lennox Lewis was simply better and battered your lad senseless
That’s why he is the Champ
Don’t dwell on it

It’s over

I t s O v e r . . . .” I see the Lewis groupies have been reduced to non-sensical ramblings like that. Well what else have they got? While everyone else outside the hate circle can objectively view the greatness (and cowardice) of the Klitschkos and Lewis respectively, the Lewis Nut Swingers have nothing but pathetic little mutterings like the one just quoted above ;)

Posted October 12, 2013 10:15 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Once again Dumbo, still waiting; The Apex of Lewis’ career please?

Posted October 12, 2013 10:12 am 


DMX

Higgledy Giggledy Do
“Don’t be a Sauerkraut all your life”
Lennox Lewis was simply better and battered your lad senseless
That’s why he is the Champ
Don’t dwell on it

It’s over

I t s O v e r . . . .

Posted October 12, 2013 10:11 am 


Hidalgo aint right

nameless “Lewis was booed on his way to the ring aswell. Still better than the Charr fight. Im sure fans will talk about that for 10 years” Well I’m sure they’ll be remembering that, as bad as it was, a lot more fondly than many of the STINKERS Lewis but up against the likes Tuas and Mavrovics of the world

Posted October 12, 2013 10:11 am 


SREDMOND

Lewis NEVER “LOST” on the cards because the bout was only 50% over when he punched Klitschkos ticket… That MEASLEY 2 point lead and pretending this was a 6 round fight simply illustrate the frustration of Klit fans.. Lewis was NOT letting Vitali go 12 rounds with him and he kept hammering away to great effect an insured it didn’t… “the cards” HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I’m sure Pacquiao is staring at the cards after Marquez flattened him…

Posted October 12, 2013 10:10 am 


Hidalgo aint right

“Vitali could fight Charrs and Chisoras till he’s 50 and he will still never get the respect Lewis does” He will never get the respect from unreasonable haters like yourself cause you don’t have the brain capacity to be any other way. But thankfully your ilk only make up the minority. Most boxing fans and just about all arm chair fight fans can already recognise the greatness of the brothers. I’m by new means a tennis fan, I don’t really follow it, but already recognise the greatness of Nadal And Federer. Those who are only casual boxing fans (like I am tennis) already can recognise the greatness of what we are witnessing with the brothers. Anyway Dumbo, still waiting; The Apex of Lewis’ career please?

Posted October 12, 2013 10:09 am 


nameless

I will answer……I liked Lewis best when he was light…..he was like wlad with balls and a chin.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:08 am 


nameless

Lewis was booed on his way to the ring aswell. Still better than the Charr fight. Im sure fans will talk about that for 10 years.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:06 am 


SREDMOND

Vitali at 42 did NOT accomplish half of what Lewis did at 37, Vitali is only the second best HW operating today, Lewis was the Undisputed BEST AND Top Man…how many belts does Vitali have? 1 belt Lewis had all relevant straps… Vitali could fight Charrs and Chisoras till he’s 50 and he will still never get the respect Lewis does.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:04 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Hey Dumbo, are you even gonna attempt to answer any of my questions as I kindly have yours? What is the “Apex” of the Lewis career?

Posted October 12, 2013 10:03 am 


Hidalgo aint right

DMX “Lewis was the Last of the Heavyweight Greats
Get over it
His fights were World Events
You always remember where you were when Lennox fought” This is getting more priceless by the post!! “You always remember were you were when Lewis fought!!” HAHAHAHAHA I’ve followed this sport a long time and seen most of Lewis fights live on the box. I can honestly say I don’t remember were I was even during ONE of his fights. The same can’t be said for others like Tyson, Naseem, Trinidad, Klitschko and so on. “World Events”?? You are having a giraffe Mate!

Posted October 12, 2013 10:02 am 


DMX

Lennox closed the Show in magnificent fashion as he beat Vitali to a pulp
Then strode off into the Sunset as Bob Marley “crazy ball head” played

Now THAT is how it’s done

Posted October 12, 2013 10:01 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Dumbo (redmond)is back. Firstly dumbo we talked about this already. If you wanna take a “boxrec” win over VK as some kind of fantastic and emphatic victory than keep on doing that. But that victory will NEVER be regarded as fantastic and emphatic to anyone but the most hardened LL junkie. Anyway get this guys; this is what dumbo considers an “Excellent close out for Lewis”. Losing a fight on ALL cards 4 rounds to two. Being BOOED by those in attendance. Wrestling with Larry Merchant for Microphone control LOL. WOW-WEEE, what an “Excellent Close Out!” Eh, Dumbo?? ;)

Posted October 12, 2013 9:59 am 


nameless

That really did make me laugh out loud.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:58 am 


SREDMOND

Lewis does an act of charity Everytime he mentions the Klits who have provided constant stinkers that the US and much of the planet are not interested in..
He creates some buzz and reminds guys of when HW was still exciting the Klits should give him 10% of their purses… That Povetkin bout was such a tragic display Ali and Frazier are BOTH thinking about a comeback and Joes dead..

Posted October 12, 2013 9:56 am 


DMX

Lewis was the Last of the Heavyweight Greats
Get over it
His fights were World Events
You always remember where you were when Lennox fought

Not some dodgy German pop concert with Scorpion playing and fireworks and smoke bombs going off
As the crowd nod their approval jigging about in their jean jackets, flares and mullets
As one of these grim faced Executioners march out to face some fat Nightclub Doorman in another stinker of a fight

Posted October 12, 2013 9:54 am 


nameless

It was Vitalis own Dr that stopped charr after the thumb job. More honesty from the anti corruption candidate.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:53 am 


SREDMOND

“you’re only as good as your last fight”. GREAT POINT and during his “Last Fight” Lennox Lewis gave a PRIME Future Hall of Famer his WORST beating and loss sticking 10 stitches per round in his face…Vitali would not lose again over the next 10 years (minus 4) but the last time he did lose and absorb in humane punishment in the process Lennox Lewis was the guy handling him… Excellent close out for Lewis!

Posted October 12, 2013 9:51 am 


nameless

It must be the years he took off and the peds. By the way how do you think tyson vs charr goes?

Posted October 12, 2013 9:50 am 


Hidalgo aint right

nameless “So in other words Vitali is overdue a fight. Yet he is delaying and bribing the WBC to keep his strap” No, he’s not bribing anyone to “keep” his strap, he has given his word that he will HONOUR his OBLIGATION and take on his MANDATORY early next year at the age of 42, more than can be said of Lewis with regards HIS mandatory obligations at 37

Posted October 12, 2013 9:49 am 


nameless

So in other words Vitali is overdue a fight. Yet he is delaying and bribing the WBC to keep his strap…….whilst he runs for office as an anti-corruption candidate!

Posted October 12, 2013 9:45 am 


Hidalgo aint right

And by the way, the ONLY WAY Lewis can generate such numbers in terms of publicity is by mentioning that ‘Klitschko’ word. Without this word he would already be simply a short little footnote in the annals of boxing, all but forgotten about, a fate he his destined for anyway. But so long as the brothers are boxing and cleaning up, he can continue to utter that ‘K’ word here and there anytime the insecure man needs a little dose of the limelight again.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:44 am 


Hidalgo aint right

DMX “Even 10 years in Retirement look at the amount of Posts Lewis generates
More than any current thread on here

That is the high esteem the Man is remembered” haha “HIGH ESTEEM”?? More than HALF this thread is SLATING the bejabbers out of Lewis! (aka TRUTH TELLING) WOW, High Esteem indeed LOL

Posted October 12, 2013 9:41 am 


Hidalgo aint right

nameless “Lewis was avoided to hell. Vitali is a ducker and a cherry picker who is somehow hanging on to the WBC despite not having defended it in over a year” As did Lewis AFTER Tyson. And he was taking ANOTHER year too until the WBC gave him an ULTIMATUM. Piss (fight Vitali in a rematch) or get off the pot

Posted October 12, 2013 9:38 am 


scottyboy

Derp…you’re wrong I am not a klit-hater as such. I am just a realist when it comes to their level of opponent. I have said on here many times that Vitali could hang with the best of them and the only real problems he has had was when facing tall, well-schooled fighters with decent hand speed. Testament to this is the lewis fight where he hit Vitali more than anyone ever has and first couple of rounds v sanders where Vitali was legitmately dropped at the end of the first round (incorrectly ruled a slip). I also think this version of Wlad would be a tough opponent for anyone. However, I just don’t fall into the hype that they are the ATGs like some of their nuthugging fans. If they had peaked in the 90s they would certainly have had a few genuine losses and in Wlad’s case, KO losses. He could not take a shot or defend himself when hurt until he teamed up with Steward and he would have been cannon fodder for the likes of early 90s Lewis and Tyson.

We all saw that an old, unmotivated Lewis with only 3 weeks training was able to land on Vitali with regular ease. Compare that version of lewis with the one that fought Tyson a few months earlier (re-watch the fight for verification). He had the energy, spring, motivation and correct weight that came with a prepared fighter, albeit a past-prime fighter. The version that turned up for Vitali had none of these things and I genuinely can only see one winner if the version that fought Tyson had turned up. I too would have loved to have seen a rematch but it was clear lewis was on the slide and he had nothing left to prove to anyone. Irrespective of the scorecards, that fight should definitely have been stopped and most bad cuts would have been stopped before that (Wlad v Williamson for instance). The correct verdict was given.

The klits have been very dominant but as stated earlier, the best win between them was an mercer in his 42nd year. History will remember them not only for being the most boring HW fighters ever, but also as the massively underrated Holmes is remembered; for being dominant in a weak era.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:38 am 


Hidalgo aint right

“David Tua would have KILLED Vitali” Ladies and gentleman, I present to you redomnd. Under NO circumstances engage with this man cause your IQ is guaranteed a MINIMUM 20 notch fall!!

Posted October 12, 2013 9:37 am 


nameless

Lewis was avoided to hell. Vitali is a ducker and a cherry picker who is somehow hanging on to the WBC despite not having defended it in over a year….I think Vitali is a H2H great but nowhere near GOAT. Lean back and jab is not exactly amazing boxing in my book but he is what he is…..always taller.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:36 am 


Hidalgo aint right

So are you gonna actually answer any of my questions redmond or are you gonna BIT CH out of this confrontation like that Lewis character did all those moons ago?

Posted October 12, 2013 9:34 am 


Hidalgo aint right

redmond asks “If Vitalis goal was to have his face smashed, need surgery requiring 60 stitches to close his wounds, be stopped in 6 rounds and have a TKO LOSS on his record then why was he almost in tears after the bout asking for a rematch? ” Simples! Because it was such a fluke cut, the type you hardly ever see. It was a freak cut therefore Vitali felt a sure victory was ripped away from him. As just about EVERYONE else felt to hency why the rematch was ordered you bellend. Do you actually athink Lewis went out into those middle rounds with the intention of causing a fight ending cut?? GTFO of here!! It was one of those freak acidents that happen now and then

Posted October 12, 2013 9:33 am 


Hidalgo aint right

OMFG so Tua would have killed Vitali now??? The same PEAK Tua who was schooled and lost a lob-sided points win over Byrd? Tua would have killed Vitali? You can’t make this up. I’ve seen some DUMB posts on this thread but redmond gets the bickie for DUMBEST POSTER of the LOT! How was he “undisbuted champion” when he went into the VK fight with just ONE belt you complete nonce??? ” Vitali will have only accomplished a FRACTION of what Lewis did 10 years later” Elaborate please cause last I checked VK, other than owning many statistical records that LL can only dream of, is currently both a longer reigning champ with more defences under his belt. Since DMX has ran off somewhere with his tail betwwen his legs, I’ll ask again, what is the greatest vicotry of Lewis? In fact I’ve asked already, what is the “Apex” of that coward’s career? This should be good, I’m gettin the popcorn! :D

Posted October 12, 2013 9:30 am 


SREDMOND

If Vitalis goal was to have his face smashed, need surgery requiring 60 stitches to close his wounds, be stopped in 6 rounds and have a TKO LOSS on his record then why was he almost in tears after the bout asking for a rematch? Why not a jubilant celebration of his accomplishment? Why discuss another Lewis bout of his results were in line with what he wanted??? BECAUSE they were NOT Vitali said after the bout “my heart is broken” he just forgot to add his face was ALSO…

Posted October 12, 2013 9:28 am 


SREDMOND

You cannot “Banish” anyone in defeat, Lewis was like a 5 star General who had NO MORE Stars to get! He had defeated every boxer he faced, made a TON of money, and was Undisputed HW Champion upon retirement…Klitschko was simply the last guy he beat up before he retired and Vitali will have only accomplished a FRACTION of what Lewis did 10 years later… Sam Peter??? David Tua and others would have killed him…

Posted October 12, 2013 9:23 am 


Hidalgo aint right

redmond says “All this rhetoric because lowly Klit Fans like Adrian, Bears, K2 and Tark cannot accept that beating an aging Lennox Lewis will NEVER be part of Vitalis legacy” AND?? Why should it need to be?? Banishing Lewis forever from the heavyweight scene is pretty impressive anyway but he doesn’t need to have a “boxrec” win over Lewis to define his legacy. He’s more than cemented it already. Bansihing Lewis just adds that little bit more to it! AS for LL, well as we know and as they say “you’re as good as you’re last fight”, well VK didn’t make LL look very good no did he?? LL knew he met his match. Anyway talking about “apexes of careers”, what was the apex of Lewis’s in your opinion?

Posted October 12, 2013 9:08 am 


Lennox

SRedmond… it’s ok man… the truth is: I lost this fight and i ducked vitali.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:04 am 


Hidalgo aint right

LL fans can claim all they want that LL scored an ampathic and conclusive victory over of Vitali. Most don’t argue that LL go a win, but most also agree that it was an inconclusive as you can get. History will forever remember Lewis as BOTTLING the rematch. I’ve a good Polish friend, he’s an arm-chair boxing fan at the very most. Even he believes LL ran from a rematch was was damn lucky that night back in ’03 to escape with a win. My friend is representative of the average boxing fan. What eats up Lewis groupies is that Vitali has forever left a stain on the legacy of Lewis like dog piss on a white sheet. THe stench…phew! I think I need to open a window here! Lewis had his last fight at 37 years of age, before being ran off into retirement (cause he didn’t have the balls to honor his REMATCH). The same age Vitali was when coming back after 4 years to stop Peter for the first time in his career, a man who was almost 10 years younger. VK’s next milestone will be early next year when he whips his Canadian, only once beaten mandatory at the age of 42. The legacy of LL doesn’t even compare to that of Vitali’s. History will prove this. Suck it up LL junkies!! It is what it is.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:04 am 


VITALI

Lennox you were out of shape??? You had 3 months, I had only 10 days!! If I had 2 or 3 months, you were a broken man now!!

Posted October 12, 2013 9:02 am 


SREDMOND

All this rhetoric because lowly Klit Fans like Adrian, Bears, K2 and Tark cannot accept that beating an aging Lennox Lewis will NEVER be part of Vitalis legacy and without that win they have a fighter trying to peddle his Compubox stats Lol!! And winning 4 rounds against an ATG who had been stopped before… Vitali was NOT putting on a “master class” of boxing he was arm punching while Lewis threw Hammers… When Mayweather puts on a clinic you don’t see him bleeding from every spot imaginable… This was NOT a great exhibition of pure boxing it was a slugfest that played to Lewis advantages in power, that’s why Vitali paid a HORRIBLE price for engaging in that fight….He LOST and that was the END of him in America!! If he had romanced the crowd why did he not become the next Gatti, Pacquaio or Lewis?? No his 15 mins of Fame were OVER after Lennox flayed him
And he’s NEVER gained traction here again… And he NEVER will….he will retire a singlebelthoder with the LOWLY Sam Peter as the apex of his career…

Posted October 12, 2013 9:02 am 


DMX

Derp
Only juice Tony Tubbs and Tim Witherspoon on . . . . Is hamburger juice
Running down their chin

Posted October 12, 2013 9:01 am 


Hidalgo aint right

So then one more time DMX WHY would Wlad likely have been demolished by most of the aforementioned, huh? Based on what fight result in recent memory? If you can’t answer then join “heavyweighttruth”, who should change his name to heavyweightnonsense, and GTF off this thread you bi tch

Posted October 12, 2013 8:57 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Anyway once more why do such guys hold such a chance again? I’m particularly interested to find out WHY “most would demolish Wlad”?? Based on WHAT fight result in the last DECADE? Or do you have to go back to the Sanders Days? With your logic then Ali was put down by Cooper one time in 1963. Therefore any time he was to face a moderately punching aggressive fighter then he’d likely be demolished, right? Well the likes of Shavers, Fraizer, and Foreman would beg to differ. Joe Louis was once taken to school before he was champion by that German guy Schmeling, not sure if thats spelled right. Anyway, that means during his reign of 10 years, there was every chance he would be schooled again by a half decent slickster, no? Well he beat his handful of slicksters during his reign (Walcott, Farr etc.)

Posted October 12, 2013 8:56 am 


Hidalgo aint right

Some no mark by the name of DMX says “Prime 90′s Ray Mercer / Tommy Morrison / Razor Ruddock / David Tua / Ike Ikebuchi

They all would stand a very good chance against Vitali and most would demolish Wlad”

Right…so the 90′s Mercer who was schoold by 50 year old Holmes, along with dropping points to murderers row Jessie Ferguson and Marion Wilson? He would stand a very could chance would he?

90′s Mossison who was KO’d in 1 by Mike Bennet?

90′s Tua who was scholled by just about every half decent boxer before occasionally getting lucky and bailing himself out late in the fight (against the likes of Maskaev and David Izon to name a few).

Ike Ibeauchi. Who knows. He’s just a heavyweight enigma.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:55 am 


SREDMOND

Three of Frank Bruno’s 5 losses came to Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis NOT exactly a couple of soft fighters the dude booked 40 wins and stopped a ton of bunch of guys… He was made to look bad against the BEST of that time…

Posted October 12, 2013 8:51 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, you’re DESPERATE Tyson stopped Bruno 2x and when did Vitali beat Frank Bruno again? What’s the date of that bout? As for Tyson being upset by Douglas the only reason it’s a more discussed defeat is that Tyson was more accomplished than Wlad when Wlad let a fighter who was WAY worse than Douglass stop him!!!! Ross Purrity had more losses than Douglass, Holyfield and Lewis had put together when they respectively stopped Mike Tyson… Corrir Sanders was of course a part time fighter when he BLEW Wlad out in 2 pathetic rounds… So what’s your thought on that and when did Vitali beat Bruno? I don’t even see a record of them fighting, you making things up again?

Posted October 12, 2013 8:49 am 


Scottyboy

Bruno wasn’t as bad as he is portrayed. He would be 3rd or 4th best in the world if he fought in today’s era and he hit like a mule. In fact, all his wins except McCall (who had a granite chin and never been dropped) were beaten by stoppage. If he learnt some defence he would have been a real challenger.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:42 am 


Hidalgo aint right

At HeavyweightTruth, I won’t speak on behalf of TARK but can do so on my own behalf. I ALSO rate Vitali as the best ever. Many others do too across boxing forums. I wonder who YOU rate the best ever? You are obviously an LL fan but surely you couldn’t be so naive as to rate that cowardly lion the best ever, with his partly 41-2 (2)-1 record?? Anywayze as for VK. ONLY ATG Heavyweight champ NEVER to be off his feet. ONLY ATG Heavyweight NEVER to be behind on the cards. In case you forgot, LL had his bell rung by two scrubs. At 72.73%, LL didn’t have a particularly foreboding KO ratio, well not when compared to that of VK, second highest ever. They don’t call him “Iron Fist” for nothing, the same way they don’t call Lewis the “Cowardly Lion” for nothing. You asked for “Best Win”? Well what about 8 round beat-down of then WBO Champ Corrie Sanders (6’4 ” Southpaw with very fast hands) who was coming off a KO win over future heavyweight legend Wlad? Maybe the WBC Champ Sam Peter, who had only one defeat (on points to Wlad), who had never been stopped, and Vitali stops him after a FOUR YEAR ring gap?? Chisora, who has recently proven himself on very good form. Vitali schools Chisora at FORTY years of age, with practically ONE arm for the duration!! Those wins are pretty neat, no?? Now to paraphrase you, but switching to Lewis “just tell me who Lewis’s best WIN is….it’s quite simple…who is it? Second best win? Who?” Would it be the 38 (thirty eight) year old passed his peak version of Holyfield?? Would it be the SHELL of Tyson perhaps? Or perhaps you’ll claim the “victory” over VK, you know the one were he was losing 4 rounds to two on ALL cards with a stoppage so inconclusive (as to proving who the better athlete really was) that a REMATCH was then sanctioned, to which the lion hastily retired. Well ‘Truth, which were the best wins of Lewis? If you CAN’T or WON’T answer then GTFO this thread you scrub.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:38 am 


DMX

I got a programme from the Jumbo Cummings fight
That was a early warning of when Frank gets clocked
Nothing changed
Bloke should have learned to take a knee, compose himself

Posted October 12, 2013 8:34 am 


nameless

Hopeless is harsh man. Watch his career, i think he is well underrated but a little too brave/foolhardy. But certainly a nice guy so maybe im bias…..like K2 fan……yes he ducked Chisora……styles make fights and wlad hates a fight.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:27 am 


K2 Fan

There is NO limit to the stupidity of some of the Brainless, Witless
dumbells on this site ! They would want you to believe , that Wlad
” ducked ” Chisora ( TWICE ) , yet did NOT duck Hayes whom he wiped the floor with , but who beat the crap out of Chisora ! You
have to be really stupid , and pretty desperate , to come up with a
” theory ” like that !

Posted October 12, 2013 8:19 am 


DMX

Scottyboy
You throw Big Daddy Bowe and Polish Wildman Andre Golota in the mix . . . .
And you got a HEAVYWEIGHT Division worth watching

If you serious about Boxing you gotta watch these Heavy weight fights

Posted October 12, 2013 8:16 am 


nameless

when the fk did vitali fight frank bruno? I think frank would give wlad fits to be honest

Posted October 12, 2013 8:12 am 


DMX

I think you mean Herbie Hide?

Posted October 12, 2013 8:10 am 


Scottyboy

Adrian…when did vitali ever fight bruno?? You’re really showing everyone your complete lack of boxing knowledge here.

Posted October 12, 2013 8:09 am 


Adrian

Wich Tyson ????… the one who got slaughtered by Douglas ??
Remember frank Bruno ? The slowest haveyweight ever had Tyson in trouble big time I the third round the same frank Bruno who got wiped by vitally in two rounds …. Lol now somehow those facts none of klitchko haters mention these kind of facts ??!!! I mean that guy Bruno was a title challanger in the 90′ ?? How come?? And btw it was the 90 when klitchko knock him out in two rounds !!! Axel Schultz fought for a title against Forman who got robed btw and thAt was the 90′ s!!! Axel Shultz for god sakes !!!

Posted October 12, 2013 7:13 am 


scottyboy

DMX…it speaks volumes that the list of names you give (as well as McCall and Briggs) would automatically be at least the 3rd best HWs in today’s era. The fact that none were serious challengers to Lewis, Holy, Tyson back then tells it all.

Posted October 12, 2013 6:56 am 


entertaining….NOT!!!

Boring, non-exciting fighting is what the Klitschkos provide!

Posted October 12, 2013 6:45 am 


Adrian

Dmx – I respect your opinion but I think you are way off there with your list … Morrison and mercer beating the klitchkos ? I don’t think so ….

Posted October 12, 2013 6:41 am 


scottyboy

Derp…wow, excuse my massive miscalculation, it does seem that mercer was indeed a few months short of being 42 when he fought wlad. That is afterall a massive 2.4% of his age at the time, how could I have been so far out?? To sum up your points: you are a goon. If you really believe that Mercer was robbed v lewis and that Holmes, Foreman etc were better fighters in their mid-forties than in their prime then I feel really, really sorry for you. I believe you are attempting in some ridiculous, asinine and childlike manner to counter my claim that this is a pathetically weak era of HW boxing. In fact you are only reinforcing it.
If Mercer was so bad then how come, even in his 42nd year (work that one out), he is regarded as one of the biggest (in my opinion the biggest) names on wlad’s resume? I’ll give you a clue shall I: it’s because neither klit has ever beaten a single fighter worthy of the HOF (the exception actually being mercer but he hasn’t officially been retired for 5 years so we will not find out yet) and definitely no all-time greats. In fact, the only time either of the klits fought a HOF ranked fighter was the Lewis fight and we all know what happened then (Lewis W-TKO6 in the history books forever). It is absolutely undeniable that there is not a single opponent that either klit has beaten that would beat ANY top HW in history (Rahman’s fluke punch v Lewis aside). Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson would all have beaten every single opponent either klit has beaten and that speaks volumes about their respective eras. They have been dominant in a weak era, yes, but neither has done anything truly outstanding.

Posted October 12, 2013 6:36 am 


DMX

Prime 90′s Ray Mercer / Tommy Morrison / Razor Ruddock / David Tua / Ike Ikebuchi

They all would stand a very good chance against Vitali and most would demolish Wlad

After the 70′s the 90′s Heavyweights was the best era

Posted October 12, 2013 6:32 am 


Scottyboy

I can’t quite believe that there are goons on this thread promoting wlad’s win over mercer as an accomplishment and valid win. Mercer was 42 years old! Amazing that he is still the biggest name on wlad’s resume though. Mercer was actually very underrated and in his prime would easily be the 3rd best hw in today’s era. With vitali’s age and wlad’s pitiful performance v povetkin in mind, prime mercer pulling out a win v either klitschko today would not be that far fetched. The fact that prime mercer got nowhere near the top of the tree around the 80s/90s speaks volumes of this pathetic era of hw boxers.

Posted October 12, 2013 5:09 am 


Lennox

Vitali,I bust you up good man,I even came in well out of shape to give you a fighting chance,but you didn’t come up to scratch man,I enjoyed our fight and I thank you for making it a good test while it lasted.I just wish you’d give a half decent Heavyweight the opportunity of fighting you,instead of scrubs like Charr.Back in the day I would’ve been embarrassed to fight bums like that.Anyway,Vitali,thanks for having so many strange fans that keep my name relevant…if you’re ever short of cash or need some help to get ahead in your political career,just let me know….

Posted October 12, 2013 4:48 am 


VITALI

Vitali IS the best.

Posted October 12, 2013 4:29 am 


HeavyweightTruth

I’m laughing my arse off here…. I just read Tarks hilarious co
ment where he ranks Vitali as the best Heavyweight ever…..now you know he’s off his mess or live in la-la land,or both…look,Tark,just tell me who Vitali’s best WIN is….it’s quite simple…who is it? Second best win? Who? We all know you won’t answer a simple question wth a simple answer.Get some help….

Posted October 12, 2013 3:58 am 


Meh

“lewis is dry. Lewis has not warmed up” foreman

Posted October 12, 2013 3:50 am 


Adrian

Dmx– yes and thank god for seeing the first two rounds where stamina of I jury’s play no role in performance and we see how Lewis gets outboxed and hurt by vitally ….and at the end people roaring klitchko name and booing Lewis , I was rooting for Lewis because he was my favorite boxer and still is but that night klitchko won me over because i was expecting for klitchko to get killed by Lewis because of Lewis reach and experience but happen the contrary he was getting outboxed like never before ….

Posted October 12, 2013 3:47 am 


Meh

Its a made up quote

Posted October 12, 2013 3:38 am 


Hidalgo

“lennox gave vitaly the most praise vitaly has ever received saying vitaly was the best he ever faced and hurt worse and hit him harder than anyone he ever faced.”

That’s not what Lewis said the end of the fight. When Merchant asked Lewis if he had changed his opinion of Vitali Lewis said, “He’s okay.”

Posted October 12, 2013 3:24 am 


Nameless

Probably not. I stay to keep my contempt alive

Posted October 12, 2013 2:58 am 


Box Clever

Good and iinformative posts tark. Nameless have you actually saidanything even remotely interesting this entire thread? Worst poster by a country mile

Posted October 12, 2013 2:41 am 


nameless

Oh look, more tark smeared over this thread

Posted October 12, 2013 1:46 am 


nameless

What proof do you want bears? a BWC pic with todays newspaper? Im British through and through and 100% white

Posted October 12, 2013 1:31 am 


BEARS

cool prove it. your names dmx nutsack. i dont believe it until its proved

Posted October 12, 2013 1:26 am 


nameless

bears im as white as this font

Posted October 12, 2013 1:23 am 


DMX

Adrian
Nice . . . .
So you can see this all time Ukranian Great Warrior slumped on his stool sobbing about his “rotator cuff” hurting

As a club fighter is carried around the ring in front of him celebrating victory by another TKO

Thank God for Youtube for reference and Klitschkos for insomnia

Posted October 12, 2013 12:48 am 


nameless

Yes he did duck him twice. Its a fact. As for people making their minds up based on youtube – they have and the verdict is Tko6. Do a search for previous polls on the forum

Posted October 12, 2013 12:39 am 


Adrian

Dmx — in this era thank god we have youtube and not only “history books” so people could watch the fight and decide for themselves about the fight …

Posted October 12, 2013 12:34 am 


K2 Fan

Please ! Now this Nameless/ Brainless/ moron , has Wlad ” double ducking ” Chisora ???

Posted October 12, 2013 12:32 am 


nameless

DMX – they dont get the concept of glory over money. They are greedy money grabbing turds. Amazingly the brother that used PEDs, bribed opponents and cheats to win is running for election on an anti-corruption ticket. You really could not make it up!

Posted October 12, 2013 12:29 am 


DMX

Like jilted Girlfriends the Klit Bro’s have never got over Lewis

Even 10 Years in retirement Lennox can still play with their minds
As they sit around with their shirts tucked into their pants playing chess with one another

Like a couple of misfits, social outcasts

They will never have what Lennox Lewis had, the respect, the honour

What Lewis achieved over them will never be repeated
and all the wealth they surround themselves with will never alter the History Books
Lennox Lewis TKO Klitschko

Posted October 12, 2013 12:27 am 


nameless

nobody argues with steward? “put it this way, im glad the fight is not happening” – re Wlads double duck of chisora

Posted October 12, 2013 12:21 am 


BEARS

dude watch the sky broadcast of lennox vs shannon briggs. shannon sctually took a round and by the rules of boxing knocked lennox down when lennox was forced to take a seat on the bottom rope and hold on to the top ropes to stay up. lol

Posted October 12, 2013 12:18 am 


Dionysus

DMX, Actually, no, I don’t get it.. but, thanks for tryin? and you never did apparently.

Posted October 12, 2013 12:11 am 


Puncher007

Hey princess, Lewis will always be a coward for not rematching! Dummie!!! Everybody knows he was scared!! A cut on the most tender piece of skin on the human body don’t make the boy a winner! Stupid!!! Are you really that delusional ??

Posted October 12, 2013 12:10 am 


Dionysus

So, I’ll explain what I am taking from your comment. You don’t care to answer me, and would rather I assume. Also, you totally are brainwashed with your belief so, at this point reasoning with you is like polishing a turd. And, please explain what ONE PUNCH, you are talking about? As I said, I would agree with retiring on top had he not agreed (as I saw with my own eyes) to a rematch which he avoided. Now, if you are happy with that or if it “wasn’t contractual” so it don’t matter to you, then sadly, you are a person who doesn’t expect someone to keep their word or do it yourself. If you can’t keep your word.. what else of a person’s worth is there?

Posted October 12, 2013 12:09 am 


Puncher007

I spend time writing a great article just to have you guys not post it! Thanks

Posted October 12, 2013 12:05 am 


The Prince

Dionysus – Are you serious? How many HW fights have you watched? HW fights change in an instant because of the punching power. As I’ve said, there were many fights when the other guy looked good, until he got caught. That’s what happened to a younger Vitali against the aging Lion. Lewis proved himself a champion when it counted and retired on top. How hard is that to understand?

Posted October 12, 2013 12:02 am 


Dionysus

Ive watched it a few times… So, is Lampley, the fans, Merchant and of course my own eyes,.. all wrong? And do you have no answer about the Tyson, Lewis and Klitschko question I asked you? Should I just assume?

Posted October 11, 2013 11:57 pm 


Dionysus

Prince, How in the f@@k else did he win? He sure didn’t look better over 6 rounds!!! You gettin all hyped up because you little friend is here to comment? I understand.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:54 pm 


The Prince

A fluke cut? A three time undisputed champion beat Vitali because of a fluke cut? SMH… As I said, the fight is available. Watch it without rose colored glasses next time.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:51 pm 


Dionysus

Prince did you talk about Lewis like this when he was champ? or Tyson? Or is it just the Klitschkos, and why? I’d like to understand..

Posted October 11, 2013 11:48 pm 


Dionysus

Amoe, I can respect that.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:46 pm 


Dionysus

Tachyon, why has his family said otherwise on interviews?

Posted October 11, 2013 11:42 pm 


Dionysus

It was making a point Prince. you were bringing up things pulling at strings. So i was being rhetorical. Vitali’s Losses came from a stoppage and a torn rotator against Byrd. Byrd didn’t hurt Vitali of course, Vitali hurt Vitali. So, with a fluke cut, and a injury he caused himself, He’s never been put to sleep.. not like Rahman had Lewis snoring.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:41 pm 


Tachyon

Lewis retired because he did not want to go through another training camp had nothing to do with Vitali does not matter if his next opponent had been ODH issue was Lewis was tired of the pain going through training camp.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:41 pm 


amoe

The only thing that i see we agree on is that the k brothers are great like them or not. vitali was winning vs lewis thats a fact but im my opinion he was on his way to take a nap that would have hurt him in the long run. Vitali fought his heart out but that cut saved him he should be glad.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:39 pm 


The Prince

I don’t make excuses for Lennox Lewis, I’m telling you what happened. The fight is available, you can watch it anytime. I think it’s even posted multiple times on Youtube. And Lennox was out-of-shape, you can clearly see that in the fight video as well.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:38 pm 


Dionysus

Exactly, it’s like who do you believe, the judges or your own lying eyes in some fights. EX: Vera being absolutely robbed and disrespected against Chavez Jr.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:36 pm 


The Prince

Dionysus – This is a boxing site and I talk about boxing. What Tyson and Vitali do outside the ring is their business. So if you angle is Tyson outside the ring said and did bad things, so that makes Vitali the better man, I’ll argue that some of the greatest men in history done bad things and it never took away from their greatness. Nobodies aren’t perfect.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:36 pm 


Dionysus

Lewis insiders on record said he retired instead of having to rematch Vitali. That’s cut and dried.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:32 pm 


Dionysus

OK, so since we are arguing all kinds of things.. let’s talk about success outside the ring.. What’s Tyson done, how successful has he been, what’s his quality of life compared to Vitali?

Posted October 11, 2013 11:23 pm 


The Prince

Dionysus – What does cards have to prove when Vitali lost by TKO. There have been a lot of fights where a fighter was up on the cards, only to get caught and lose the fight by stoppage. It doesn’t prove a thing. Vitali was winning the fight, then Lewis woke up, put his championship face on and stopped Vitali and was close to delivering a brutal career ending knockout. Thank the Ref, because Vitali wouldn’t be fighting long enough for you to even make an argument on his behalf had he not stepped in that night.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:19 pm 


Dionysus

Hell, for that matter, Tony Thompson beat Wlad.. and beat him again.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:09 pm 


Dionysus

We know he’s gonna say Bradley

Posted October 11, 2013 11:08 pm 


Dionysus

Funny that the guy who “almost got his face ripped off” wanted the rematch and Lewis said yes and then dipped. Something sounds a little OFF there.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:07 pm 


Dionysus

ok, well now, how do you find a method for crediting or discrediting the guys the Ks fought compared to Tyson’s comp? Vitali had a string of early KOs too. Vitali has more KOs. I’m pretty sure Spinx was on the outside of his prime when he fought Tyson. Now about this overweight, uninterested struff.. how is this a knock on Vitali Klitschko? is it not the Champs job to stay in shape? Lewis was supposed to fight someone else. Vitali didn’t know he was fighting Lewis until 2 weeks prior. let’s talk cards, I get that a cut stopped the fight.. but answer me about the cards.. you have failed to do so to this point.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:05 pm 


BEARS

hey prince dont you feel provodnikov defeated bradley?

Posted October 11, 2013 10:58 pm 


The Prince

typo = Lewis almost ripped his face off for his efforts.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:53 pm 


The Prince

Tyson became the youngest HW Champion in history at age 21. He fought and beat some of the top contenders and champions during his prime, most of them inside four rounds. The some on that list include: Frank Bruno, Henry Tillman, Trevor Berbick. Everyone said Michael Spinks was his greatest threat. Tyson KO’d him in under a minute. He terrified and made Andrew Golota quit. And had a long run of first round knockouts. And he’s a two time undisputed world champion. The only fighter I don’t give him credit for beating is Larry Holmes, because Holmes was well past his prime. Now what about Vitali? He fought and beat no one of mention, but secured a fight with an overweight and uninterested Lennox Lewis in his retirement fight. Vitali almost got his face ripped off for his spirited effort. Since then, whom has he fought and beat that is special? Wlad, well others have already mentioned his resume. Tyson’s career overall is superior and decades from now, people will still be talking about him and his reign as “The Baddest Man on the Planet.” The Klits? They’ll be talking about them too, as en example when the HW division was at it’s lowest point in boxing history. Sad but true.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:50 pm 


Dionysus

I’ll never forget when Ike fought Cris Byrd.. that was scary. Same as when Shannon Briggs loaded up on Liakhovich and put him on the judges’ table.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:47 pm 


Dionysus

LOL

Posted October 11, 2013 10:45 pm 


Anonymous

Wilder will do better than Mike. He does like women—but he’s not another Ibeabuchi, or a rapist.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:45 pm 


Dionysus

Wlad looked terrible against Povetkin. And I’ll tell you this, A young Tyson would have taken him out Had Wlad been in there with him fighting the same way.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:43 pm 


Dionysus

Wilder may be on the same rollercoaster.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:41 pm 


Dionysus

Poor management was key for sure in his downfall. He was fierce, no doubt. Just brought along wrong. When it came time for the big names he didn’t fair well.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:41 pm 


amoe

Do you know how many destractions you would have as a champion as a kid. Tyson reached his true goal to be the champ . Gus was his modivation rip.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:38 pm 


amoe

Just for the record if your 18 you should fight so called bums thats common sense when tyson steped up to champion levels he did his job. Lewis said he wanted no parts of tyson in his early days. So what did a young rookie lewis do fight bums. Who did k brothers fight in there rookie days bums . The k brothers are all time greats thats my choice but tyson is my dude.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:35 pm 


Dionysus

that’s a filler. I would say that if i had nothing to back my argument as well.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:33 pm 


The Prince

SMH… you Klit fans are delusional.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:29 pm 


Dionysus

The Ks have both fought and beaten much more ranked competition. Tyson’s success plummeted like a bad stock when he started fighting top level fighters. The only thing we have to connect the Ks to Tyson sadly is Danny Williams who beat up Tyson and got pounded out by Vitali. Now you can say that Tyson was old but it still happened. Vitali was getting older as well.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:26 pm 


BEARS

“bum sauce around his mouth” lol…………….classic!!!! good stuff

Posted October 11, 2013 10:25 pm 


BEARS

tyson fought a bunch of guys that wouldnt make it as top contenders in the klitschKO era if you ask me. really, who did he fight that would even make it as top contenders? were his opponents even on monte barrets level? mccline, mercer, byrd, haye, peter, rahman, povetkin, chagaev, tony thompson x2, wach that fought wlad would be a tough test even for tyson, chambers, brewster, i would say corrie sanders was a bigger threat than anyone tyson faced IMO, i dont think there is any comaring tyson to wlad really who would do such a thing. wlad has just accomplished so much more than anyone from the 80s or 90s. thats why you see wlads name next to joe louis or cassius clay in the record books son.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:25 pm 


TARK

Lewis is older than Tyson.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:23 pm 


TARK

Tyson refused to fight the Klitschko Bros when he was younger than they are… Mike said, “They’re too big and strong for me.”

Posted October 11, 2013 10:21 pm 


The Prince

lol… If Tyson fought bums than what does that make the people Wlad and Vitali fought? You Klit fans are hilarious.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:15 pm 


amoe

I here what yall are saying i respect that but a focused prime tyson was a beast a kid . He made history thats a fact.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:15 pm 


Dionysus

i have heard things like a small abrasion like cut was rubbed by the inside of Lewis’s glove (as he was told to do) to open the cut. I’m not sure either way but I heard that a few times.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:14 pm 


TARK

People who dismiss Lewis’s illegal holding and hitting during the 3rd round are partisan idiots… That was the easiest foul to see and that’s when all the blood came spurting out.

Any other referee than one friendly to Lewis would have stopped the action and noted the cuts came from illegal contact … So in case the cuts eventually caused a stoppage, and at least 4 rounds had past, they go to the cards.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:12 pm 


Dionysus

Amoe, that’s kinda random. Tyson had skills he just began to have an appetite for complete bums and totally forgot about real, top level fighters. So what did a Larry Holmes medal of achievement and youngest champ ever, forever do for Tyson ultimately? The guy fed on bums and had bum sauce around his mouth.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:00 pm 


BEARS

name one 18 year old that has ever before or since looked like mike tyson? ped era big time. also explains the fizzle out. there was a brief period where nobody was tested in sports and old tyson nailed it. holmes started fight in 73. spinks had beat him two times in a row which lets you know how good holmes was before facing tyson. It is tyson’s best win for sure but i wouldnt call it that awesome. it was spinks who really derailed holmes

Posted October 11, 2013 10:00 pm 


amoe

Name one heavyweight that was just a kid beat larry holmes and was the youngest heavyweight champion ever just name one.

Posted October 11, 2013 9:38 pm 


BEARS

prime mike tyson can beat cab drivers and pizza delivery guys in extraordinary fashion but thats it. a klitschko? your delusional

Posted October 11, 2013 9:29 pm 


BEARS

walking vitaly down? that never happened in fact in round 6 vitaly DOG WALKED LENNOX. watch as vitaly maintains his ring generalship to the end and momentum driving lennox from one side of the ring to the next just imposing his will. what fight was this cat watching? i dont think he ever seen the fight. please point to some moment in this fight where this fiction took place afromond.

Posted October 11, 2013 9:29 pm 


amoe

A prime tyson holyfeild and l lewis could have beating all the k brothers opponents but so what the k brothers are still big time hof boxers it not there fault.

Posted October 11, 2013 9:27 pm 


BEARS

I like how desperate racemond is saying i said wladimir fought his cleanest fight below. All these threads are still up. nowhere will you find me saying anything remotely like that. this cat redmond makes up rancid swill and then proceeds to make his fictitious posts. lol @ turdmond. lets compare mercers fights with holy and lewis to tysons. not much of a comparrison

Posted October 11, 2013 9:24 pm 


SREDMOND

JJ, if Lewis was so “scared” of Vitali then why did he keep walking him down and punching him in the face?? Why didn’t he “QUIT”‘out of fear like Klitschko Quit against Byrd when the going got tough? Why was Lewis slamming uppercuts into Vitalis head during the last round which he won??

Posted October 11, 2013 9:16 pm 


BEARS

ross pirritty, sanders, and brewster are all better than buster douglas but a more poignant fact is wlad has accomplished more and passed everyone from the 80s and 90s. there is noone from either era who has put their name in the record books sorry. and mercer got derailed by a greater atg than mike tyson getting wooped by the feather fisted holyfield. he got wooped by the great powerhouse wlad klitschko who drops people with mini left hooks. lol

Posted October 11, 2013 9:08 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Spedmond, you laugh at yourself alot or so it appears. Don’t worry, we’re all laughing to too! Not with you of course…

Posted October 11, 2013 8:52 pm 


SREDMOND

Trash Can, I can see English is NOT your first language because you are fcking up your tenses “past/present”…LOL

Posted October 11, 2013 8:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, why is Tyson’s win streak post prison “garbage” explain that to us??? Tyson ran his record to 45-1 before Holy another ATG got to him… By the time Wlad had 45 fights he had been stopped 3x and Vitali had his face demolished, and had QUIT against former Cruiser Chris Byrd… So how EXACTLY is Tyson’s win streak irrelevant? Does not suit your argument so you are pretending like that 4 1/2 year old daughter of yours??HAHAHAHAHa!

Posted October 11, 2013 8:48 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Though i would love to, I can’t understand you. You seem to effectively not own the ability to explain your self grammatically but moreso logically. You also flaw in thinking your opinion trumps facts.

Posted October 11, 2013 8:48 pm 


SREDMOND

If Lewis “obliged him” and they signed a contract they would have fought!! Klits need for a legacy fight is a SAD, Gaping hole in his resume Lennox booked the wins he needed and stopped 2 of the HOFERS he faced Vitali being one of them… Again all this heartfelt sadness for Klits plight makes me LAUGH!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 8:44 pm 


SREDMOND

TrashCan or whatever your name is business deals are NOT here’s out in a boxing ring after a heated bout “keep your word” screw Vitali ! Lewis decided he wanted hang them up so he did..Klits had 10 years to become Undisputed Champ without Lewis and he failed to do that also… This all sounds like Vitalis problem to me

Posted October 11, 2013 8:39 pm 


ThrashNephilim

You pisspumps need to understand that nobody is saying Lewis lost or Vitali won. Vitali was winning on the cards, he fought well, he asked for a rematch and Lewis obliged him. Now, NOTHING of the previous sentence can be disputed as its factual and there was also an arena FULL of people that agree. There’s nothing to argue about any of that. So unless there is a misunderstanding, what is the argument?

Posted October 11, 2013 8:39 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Prince, Crippled? You are harping hot air. It kinda reminds me of the saying “a fart is a turd beeping for the right of way”. Sir, that makes you a turd with your fart-speak.

Posted October 11, 2013 8:33 pm 


Roman

Lennox won fair + square. He cut Vitali very badly.
Lennox is unusual though in that he would fight a white man more or less his own age one on one instead of picking on old people, being in a gang and using knives.

Posted October 11, 2013 8:27 pm 


BEARS

vitaly and lennox are eachothers greatest opponents. that fight may have been number one vs number 2 all time. theres noone from the 60s and 70s weighing 220 gonna beat these 2 if u ask me. certainly not ali. ali never fought a badass boxer like. vitaly or lennox

Posted October 11, 2013 7:55 pm 


BEARS

theres a surgen in california that stitches up fighters after fights considered the best. he is on the klitschko documentary which is on netflix. he tells u how the cut happened and its just like tark described. plus the video even shows the blood spurt out. seriously some of these posters are amateurs dude. dont know what happened or that vitaly dominated lennox in range, ring generalship, compubox, plus minus ratio, defense and aggression

Posted October 11, 2013 7:41 pm 


The Prince

Lennox Lewis is having fun with the haters whom can’t stand how he almost crippled Vitali in his retirement fight.

Posted October 11, 2013 7:38 pm 


BEARS

heavyweight truth- u can watch the fight or google the card everyone knows vitaly outlanded lennox every round even sredmond. this is a fact not an opinion. please fact check

Posted October 11, 2013 7:34 pm 


DMX

The mood Lennox was in on that Rahman rematch he would have crushed any Heavyweight

He has had bigger wins against better guys but that night he was a monster

Posted October 11, 2013 7:30 pm 


BEARS

mercer was on a win streak had never been stopped and maybe never knocked down. now sredmond will talk about mike tysons win streak that was garbage after prison leading up to holyfield but now dismisses mercer. FLIPFLOPPER!!!! big time esb FOUL DUDE!!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 7:27 pm 


JJ

SREDMOND, that big Ukrainan guy (Vitali) frightened the bejasus out of Lennox. For real. In real life. LL didn’t want any part of a rematch.

Posted October 11, 2013 7:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad beat OLD versions of Rahman and Mercer, just like Vitali beat a SHOT version of Shannon Briggs who barely resembled the fit boxer Lewis crushed in 5 rounds…Lewis return KO of Rahman was spectacular, Wlad of course beat a SPENT force..But the again Rahman was good enough to stop Sanders who blew Wlad out and had him
Curled up like a Baby after 2 rounds… Sad

Posted October 11, 2013 7:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Corrie Sanders would NOT even rate as a Lewis opponent if fact he would be treated one step above a complete BUM Sanders never did anything special outside of knocking out Wlad… That’s why Wlads humiliation was the upset of the year!!! Sanders was a no hoper who found that fragile chin and sent Klits to the tarp, beyond that moment Sanders career is forgettable..

Posted October 11, 2013 7:13 pm 


SREDMOND

You morons kill me “Lewis said he would rematch Vitali in the ring postfight” SOOOO WHAT?? Since when does postfight commentary become a contract?? I wonder how many such comments right after the heat of battle resulted in actual bouts occurring..What about Vitali chasing a David Haye fight RIGHT after Haye lost to Wlad THEN when Haye flat blasted Chisora suddenly he and his fans had a bunch of stipulations about having the bout??? Reality is that Klitschko was in a scheduled contest with Lewis and he could NOT cut it (no pun intended) and get the win…How many shots is an OLD champ supposed to give a guy? By the time Vitali was Lewis age he had taken a 4 year retirement…When’s the last time Klits faced a truly dangerous fighter???? It’s been forever meanwhile Lennox turned back a stiff challenge and kept on rocking…

Posted October 11, 2013 7:10 pm 


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Ernie, no… It makes you a PHADOPHILE !!!

Posted October 11, 2013 6:43 pm 


Jake

Tachyon. Lewis admitted he ducked Sanders. I don’t think Lewis would’ve come out for round 7 if they would’nt have stopped it. He was that beat up. He was being booed wildly while Vitali was being cheered. “Perception is reality.”

Posted October 11, 2013 6:41 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Tachyon, “beat his ass”? That doesn’t correctly depict what happened. Wanna try once more?

Posted October 11, 2013 6:10 pm 


K2 Fan

Scottygirl : ” we beat you in the war ” … We WHO , sweetheart ?
The English ? Without the good old U.S.A. bailing your asses out , you WOULD be speaking german , and don’t you forget it !

Posted October 11, 2013 6:02 pm 


Tachyon

Jake Sanders and Brewster who knocked out Wlad were so old in one case and unskilled in another there was no need for Lewis to fight either. By the time Wlad did get to Rahman and Mercer they were old men. Point is Lewis beat Vitali ass and messed up his eye they should have let the fight go on Vitali would have gotten knocked out and lost an eye.

Posted October 11, 2013 5:53 pm 


nameless

nope……they are opinions. Tko6 is fact

Posted October 11, 2013 5:48 pm 


nameless

first off……who the fk calls it an agreement? He said IF the money was right…….it wasn’t……..with regards wlad beating up lewis’s leftovers decades later, its rather like beating up ali today

Posted October 11, 2013 5:46 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Gentlemen, when we say stuff like “VK sack hugger” are we being “LL sack huggers” or just idiots who think they are trendy? Decide…. Also, consider Lewis agreeing to a rematch on international TV and then retiring instead. My question to you: would you end your legacy by agreeing to fight a rematch if you are champ and someone had given you a really good run for your money but the fight was halted from a cut? There is no wrong answer. But for the trendy little name callers, let me assure you that to anyone this looks like Vitali got the better of him, he knows it and though he agreed, retired instead of giving VK a rematch. Agree, don’t agree or go jump off a cliff if you like. Those are not opinions however, they are fact.

Posted October 11, 2013 5:43 pm 


Jake

Wladimir knocked out Rahman who knocked out Lewis! Whooooooooo! He also beat Mercer who beat Lewis! Whooooooo!

Posted October 11, 2013 5:42 pm 


Nameless

He also said Lewis was totally out of condition and vitalis punches had no effect

Posted October 11, 2013 5:38 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Jim Lampley put it best: (round 2) “Vitali Klitschko is ROUGHING Lennox Lewis up!!”
(Post Fight) “Lennox Lewis won the fight but Vitali Klitschko won the night.”

Posted October 11, 2013 5:29 pm 


nameless

tko6

Posted October 11, 2013 5:22 pm 


Scottyboy

Blurred lines, we beat you in the war so no, I don’t speak German. However, even if I did I wouldn’t feel the need to post insults on foreign boards. You speak English because it is the most spoken language in the world (by county). This does not mean you are intelligent.

Posted October 11, 2013 5:13 pm 


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scottyboy, I’m from Hamburg. Do you speak german??

Posted October 11, 2013 4:57 pm 


Hidalgo

“In fights where cuts causing an end to the fight were caused by illegal contact, deliberate or accidental, and four rounds have been completed, the fight goes to the scorecards”

Tark, the original punch that caused the cut over Vitali’s left eye was never ruled as either an accidental or deliberate illegal contact. This means it was accepted as a legal punch. Therefore the rule you cited does not apply and Lewis won by TKO.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:50 pm 


Epic Fail

. By Tark.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:44 pm 


SREDMOND

ESB DOG Tark, has been run off the thread for the moment! Praise be he can go tell the demented OLD hag he lays with that “Vitali won”

Posted October 11, 2013 4:42 pm 


Cliff Richard

I agree with
scottyboy.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:39 pm 


scottyboy

Blurred lines, no I’m not; really. However, the basic grammatical errors in your post signify that you are.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark is a FOOL, he is trying to sell the notion that in order for a beatdown to stand you have to do the same thing to another guy… Well who is the other fighter that Vitali put in the hospital with a busted face, orbital bone like Shannon Briggs? Clearly his gloves must have been loaded because we have not seen hospital reports like that from any of his other opponents? What a CHILDISH way to try and justify the beating Klits took, the mans AVERAGE level of comp is C plus at best then he steps in with an AGING yet ELITE fighter who hits harder than ANYONE he ever fought and of course he was banged up to another level…Jeff Lacy looked good till Calzaghe got ahold of him this is boxing…

Posted October 11, 2013 4:35 pm 


K Tards

Mongrel.. Tark is a fact bender.. So no point..

Posted October 11, 2013 4:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT once call Lewis one of the Greatest HW’s EVER…. Or do you deny making that statement? In his online video Bears calls Lewis along with the Klits one of his FAVORITEs because they are all SuperHeavyweights….As I and other posters have become increasingly vocal and critical of the Klits there has been a 360 degree shift in both these dogs stances…. Neither man is honest enough to OWN their previous LOVE of Lewis but we have Bears ON YOUTUBE video under “Vitali GOAT” I belive droning on about the Klits and Lewis etc…

Posted October 11, 2013 4:32 pm 


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scottyboy, you’re dumb. Really.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Giving NUTCASES like Tark, Bears and K2 Fan too much energy is a pure waste… These men sat down and just decided that a FANTASY or PREFABRICATED outcome of the Lewis vs Klitschko fight will suffice in lieu of the obvious truth..In the laboratory of their minds they have simply chosen to repeat the mantra that Lewis did something wrong while punching Vitali in the face… Where are the articles regarding this? Where are all the experts decrying Lewis illegal and abusive treatment of Klitschko? The contest is a CLASSIC and has been discussed and reviewed OVER and OVER yet the MOST vocal contigent of those alleging something untoward are a couple of ESB posters who are ALWAYS concocting rationales for ANY outcomes they do NOT like… Bears felt like Wlad fought the CLEANEST bout of his life DESPITE PLENTY of Writers, Announcer, fans on both side taking issue with Wlads approach to Povetkin, Dan Rafael ESPN who is an ARDENT Klit supporter basically said Wlads tactics made the bout unwatchable and he called out the ref Pabon… But this SAME NUT wants to go back in time and try and DQ Lewis because he cannot accept that outcome… Tark wants Lou Moret to see things HIS way since he (Tark) changed his opinion of the bout after a FULL 10 years… His rationale was “that Lewis had not opened up anyone elses face like Vitalis” as if you have to duplicate a result for it to be VALID… Both these girly men are SCUM, had Vitali stopped Lewis I would have been like “Oh Well” thats boxing… But because these FACISTS cannot swallow that historical deduction they are basically selling fables in an effort to numb the pain…

Posted October 11, 2013 4:28 pm 


K Tards

Alan Minter lost loads of fights he was winning due to cuts. He never spent a decade moaning about it though.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:28 pm 


scottyboy

Tark, it is well known that light skinned (eastern European type) boxers cut far easier than dark skinned ones. If anyone hit vitali with that amount of punches there is every chance he would open up again. The fact that he never has been hit that often since is hardly damning evidence that lewis caused the cut with a foul. Look at every bad cut in history and you’ll see the vast majority are light skinned boxers.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:26 pm 


spartacrust

Yo box…let’s say the ref let the fight continue, lewis softened vitali up good abd proper, its a fact that lewis finished off everyone in second half of the fight, and vitali didn’t make it because he got uchand was on his way to getting knocked out…doesn’t matr if you’re winning on score cards if you can’t ansfinish the fight. 12 rounds remember. If lewis could do that much damage in 6, imagine what he’d of done within another 6…KO

Posted October 11, 2013 4:25 pm 


Reality

Tark, plz get a life. Ten years dude, ten years!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 4:23 pm 


nameless

STFU Tark. Lewis won and Vitali has paper skin – deal with it

Posted October 11, 2013 4:16 pm 


scottyboy

Tark, your blindness barely merits a response at all. If you genuinely can’t see lewis land more clean right hands on vital I then anyone ever has then you really have no business watching or commenting on boxing matches from here on in. There is not a shred of evidence to prove lewis used his thumb, seam, head or anything else and a whole tonne of evidence to verify it was numerous clean punches that did the damage. I see you ignored my last point:if it was so obvious the cuts were caused by fouls then why did vitali not complain to the ref once? Instead he praised lewis post fight and in numerous interviews afterwards claiming lewis was his strongest ever opponent and landed more punches than anyone. Vitali has never once claimed lewis caused the cuts by a foul and I’ll give you another big clue: he will have far more of an idea than a keyboard warrior, know it all.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:14 pm 


TARK

Lewis was a great heavyweight… He hit Zel Mavorvic and Tony Tucker with numerous punches for 12 rounds each in distance fights… How many cuts did he cause or their faces???

You’ve never seen Lewis cause any cuts like that with legal blows.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:13 pm 


TARK

HeavyweightTruth.., Vitali DID win.

In fights where cuts causing an end to the fight were caused by illegal contact, deliberate or accidental, and four rounds have been completed, the fight goes to the scorecards…

If LL is winning on the cards he wins… If VK is winning on the cards he wins

Posted October 11, 2013 4:09 pm 


obviously

“obviously Vitali has never suffered cuts like that from any of his other oppoents.” Because none of of his other opponents were as good as Lewis..

Posted October 11, 2013 4:06 pm 


TARK

Heavyweights don’t have to propel their body off the ground and dive into your face with their head to do damage… The illegal headwork came in the 3rd round as Lewis grabbed Vitali around the head with his left arm and worked his head into his face…

Lewis also opened up a massive cut on the cheek which you’ve also never seen in any other Lewis fight in your life… And obviously Vitali has never suffered cuts like that from any of his other oppoents.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:04 pm 


HeavyweightTruth

Bears,while I enjoy some of your posts,today you’ve lost the plot,if VK outlanded lennox in every round,why did lennox have some minor swelling while VK looked like he’d come off Doctor Frankenstein’s operating table too soon? Swallow the bitter pill that is the truth.Lennox,although overweight,slow,with on the slide reflexes,was still too much for the young,prime Vitali.Vitali had his chance.He couldn’t do what was necessary to win.he couldn’tstop Lennox,like McCall or Rahman did.That’s life.Vitali will go to his grave twisted up about not being good enough to beat Lewis,as,evidently will you and others like you.As I’ve stated previously,VK should have no shame or regrets about the Lewis fight,he gave it all he had,he took a monstrous uppercut ftom Lewis,he should be applauded for that,but he didn’t win,he couldn’t win.No shame there,this was Lennox Lewis he was fighting,not some scrub like Charr or Peter….deal with it,get some help,maybe some counselling….

Posted October 11, 2013 4:01 pm 


Illegal “head contact.”

I bet Tark would love to work his head into Vitali’s face as well. Wink Wink.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:00 pm 


Cliff Richard

In what round did Lewis headbutt Vitali like Ortiz did versus Mayweather?

Posted October 11, 2013 3:53 pm 


TARK

Lewis worked his head into Vitali’s face as well… That’s illegal also… Floyd Mayweather suffered cuts inside his mouth from illegal head contact from Victor Ortiz.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:46 pm 


Anonymous

talk about real fighters, instead of these modern hw bums.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:44 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

You must have missed Turd’s weak excuse for the mouth bleeding, he whined it was from head butts, lol…

Posted October 11, 2013 3:43 pm 


TARK

scottyboy you’re crazy.

In what other fight in Lennox Lewis’s career did he ever cause cuts anywhere near that magnitude.

In what other fight in Vitali Klitschko’s career did he ever suffer cuts that in any way threatened stoppage??? Never.

You need a lot of help to cause cuts like that… Thumbs, palms of gloves, heels of gloves, edges of gloves, all illegal striking surfaces cause cuts like that… And the holding and hitting is plain as day… You know damned well holding and htting is illegal as Hell — and that’s when all the blood spurted out. The thumb strike caused a nick.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:43 pm 


Fight Ending Cut..

I guess Lewis also squeezed Vitalis lips together by illegal means to make them swell up during the fight too? Also Lewis shoved his glove into Vitalis mouth to cause the internal lacerations causing Vitali to swallow blood as the fight was stopped…

Posted October 11, 2013 3:41 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Turd, THE REAL BOTTOM LINE is Lennox won, Vitali lost, so lick balls…

Posted October 11, 2013 3:36 pm 


TARK

@Fight Ending Cut..

NOPE.., It was a thumb strike plain as day.. You can see it from about any angle in real time … but the best view is a slo-mo from Lewis’s right side, which is Vitali’s left side…

You clearly see the thumb of Lewis’s right glove catch the corner of Vitali’s left eye as Lewis’s glove passes Vitali’s head right next to his left eye — the cut happen when the thumb makes contact — and the blood spurt out.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:36 pm 


BRUCE

scottyboy you are bang on.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:35 pm 


scottyboy

Where has this illusion come from that they were illegal punches that caused the cuts? Total crap, look at the tape and you will see lewis land a number of clean right hands. I’ll give you a clue: if any fighter is cut badly above and below the eye from a thumb gauge or scrape (in fact anything other than a clean punch), to the extent that it may be significant enough to have the fight stopped, they are going to complain bitterly to the ref. Klitschko was hit cleanly and he knew it, hence not one complaint. Lennox Lewis at his absolute worst was able to force a stoppage over vitali, that much is true. Just watch the Tyson fight a few months earlier for evidence of lewis’ decline. It is like watching two completely different fighters. He was shot v klitschko.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:31 pm 


Meh

No dude…it was a razor blade dreadlock….duh

Posted October 11, 2013 3:25 pm 


Fight Ending Cut..

Nope.. It was a punch, not a thumb strike.. Just watching the slow mo replay on my hard drive now and clearly you are making things up as usual.. IE: The initial cut that stopped the fight was caused by a legit punch.. So far we have heard the cut was caused by a headbutt (even Vitali claimed this initialy) then a lucky glancing blow, a wrist rake, and now it is a thumb strike. What ever could it be?

Posted October 11, 2013 3:21 pm 


scottyboy

Christ almighty, I was having the same argument about the same thing with the same goons over 10 years ago on these forums. Who would have thought that 18mins of boxing would result in a decade of resultant debate? Have you guys not actually got any lives? It doesn’t matter about anything bar the result as far as father time is concerned.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:19 pm 


Meh

every article has tark all on it.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:16 pm 


TARK

BOTTOM LINE.., Illegal contact caused the cuts that ended the fight — and in those cases the scorecards determine the winner of the fight if 4 rounds have been completed…

If Lewis is winning the fight he wins… If Vitali is winning the fight HE wins.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:15 pm 


TARK

@ Fight Ending Cut.., “I was caused be a legit punch by Lewis, at the opening of round 3. So take no notice of Tark The Fact Bender.”

Take a much closer look at that punch.. It was a thumb strike.. Thumb strikes are illegal as Hell.

And that thumb strike opened a small and probably managable cut.. Shortly afterward Lewis clinched with Vitali, grabbed Vitali around the neck with his left arm, and while Vitali was in a headlock Lewis illegal struck him with his right.. That is a foul to begin with.. But Lewis raked Vitali with the edge, heel, and palm of his glove — ripping open more cuts … and worsening the initial cut.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:11 pm 


Lou Moret

Hi Tark… I also never thought Vitali trying to kick Lewis in the head, after he held the back of Lewis’s head and hit Lewis earlier, was worthy of a warning either. But you never mentioned any of that…

Posted October 11, 2013 3:08 pm 


* BLURRED LINES *

TARK has the beat.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:05 pm 


TARK

BTW.., I’m in NO WAY comparing Andre Berto to Vitali Klitschko… I’m comparing Lewis’s fouling to Guerrero’s fouling in 2 specific fights—both refereed by Lou Moret.

It’s a FACT, that Lou Moret also refereed the Guerrero-Berto fight.. He allowed Guerrero to get away with over 100 fouls.. It’s a FACT that the HBO crew commented on Lou Moret’s officiating, and lack of foul calling in both fights.. It’s a FACT that when Guerrero was illegally and flagrantly holding hand hitting Berto, Max Kellerman shouted, “Shades of Lennox Lewis” to the knowing laughs of the other commentators.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:03 pm 


Anonymous

its a shame both klit bros dont fight each other. could be another classic like last week.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:01 pm 


Fight Ending Cut..

I was caused be a legit punch by Lewis, at the opening of round 3. So take no notice of Tark The Fact Bender..

Posted October 11, 2013 3:00 pm 


illegal contact

TARK knows nothing about me..

Posted October 11, 2013 2:55 pm 


Reality

Lennox smashed him . What us the official ending? Tkfo.

Posted October 11, 2013 2:55 pm 


TARK

Sredmond says.., “First of all the fight NEVER got to the “End”

Yes it did… When the doctor stopped the fight it was over… Since the cuts causing an end to the combat were caused by illegal contact, that fight goes to the scorecards.

The rules clearly state — that in fights where cuts caused by illegal contact—contact that was deliberate or accidental—if such cuts cause the fight to be stopped, and the fight has gone more than 4 rounds, the fight goes to the scorecards. If the 4th round hadn’t been completed the fight is a No Contest ruling technical stoppage.

If Lewis is ahead on points he wins… If Viali is ahead on points he wins.

Posted October 11, 2013 2:52 pm 


* BLURRED LINES *

Au contraire!! Lewis left the ring as a loser coz Vitali left the ring as the WINNER!!

And momma’s boy is a coward coz he was so scared of Vitali!!

Posted October 11, 2013 2:47 pm 


Anonymous

let me get this right,vitali prickso could not beat a past his prime 38 year old lewis. pure class.

Posted October 11, 2013 2:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, as usual is seeing things or trying to sell them incorrectly he keeps droning on about stats that don’t matter when you LOSE…Vitali was NOT Lewis worst night in the ring by a long shot Rahman, McCall and Mercer trump in that department… But Lewis was Vitalis WORST night!!!! When have we seen Klits take so much punishment and the HARD evidence of that punishment was on full display…!!! When had we seen Klitschko shutdown in 6 rounds? Eating uppercuts like that and having to hang on because the floor was looking tempting??? Lewis BUSTED Vitalis cheery as it pertains to getting carved up and Vitali NEVER forgot it… Worst loss at the hands of Lewis…

Posted October 11, 2013 2:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Blurred Lines, if “Lewis left as a loser and coward” that means Vitali got his face bashed in ,required surgery, and got stopped by such a man which by extension would make him (Klits) something LESS than a “Loser and Coward” personally I think you’re being hard on Vitali!

Posted October 11, 2013 2:22 pm 


SREDMOND

The ONLY laughter comes from Lewis fans who watched Klitschko postfight yelling “Nooooo” as the GRIM reality of his injuries and failure to capture the most coveted prize in boxing (The Undisputed HW Championship) sunk in… We laughed with respect when Lewis retired having beat every boxer he faced and did it while still decorated as HW Champ… We laugh when we look at his record and the last bout says LEWIS TKO KLITSCHKO 6 Rounds!! Lewis is already in the HOF and he does the Klits a BIG favor anytime he utters their name by making them seem relevant to those who forgot or don’t care if they are fighting…!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 2:17 pm 


* BLURRED LINES *

Lennox left the ring as a loser and a coward.

Posted October 11, 2013 2:13 pm 


BEARS

lennox was never landing hard right hands (his signature) against vitaly sk sredmond is wrong and speaking falsity however lennox did land uppercuts. the recurring theme for lennox was his holding and hitting. it was funny watching vitaly tee off on lennox. it makes me laugh just thinking about it.

Posted October 11, 2013 2:03 pm 


BEARS

heavyweighttruth- u have to remember the wbc itself ordered and made mandatory the rematch. its not just the world of fans that demanded it (which they did) its not just the fact vitaly clean sheeted lennox outlanding him every round 66% of which was with one eye, its not just the poor officiating that shouldve seen the fight go to the cards in favor of vitaly, its not just the crowd booing lennox and cheering vitaly, lennox knew he needed to rematch and emanuel steward told him he needed to. sracemond could never post enough times to erase the reality. i like how before vitaly was reduce to one eye by way of a foul, he dominated lennox almost knocking him out. only when vitaly was reduced to one eye could lennox land very little. very little compared to what lennox averaged on his precious opponents and as i said LENNOX WAS OUTLANDED EVERY ROUND. noone had ever done that to lennox and no one has or will ever do that to the goat vitaly klitschko

Posted October 11, 2013 1:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Someone suggested that Wlad would have beat Lewis which to me is just crazy… Wlad Klits is a HOF fighter and he is a difficult proposition but NOT for Lennox Lewis would would have been his WORST nightmare… Wlad CANNOT deal with adversity in the ring when put in trouble he FAILED 75% of the time ONLY coming thru against Samuel Peter! Wlad does not handle REAL contact well hence his ULTRA cautious “jab and grab style”….. Well like his older brother found out the 6″5 Lewis was gonna make contact and PLENTY of it… Would Wlad survive a turf war with Lewis? We all know Wlad is a “jab, right hand, occasional left hook fighter who NEVER goes to the body and cannot spell “infighting” in English, Russian or Ukranian despite his language fluency.. Lewis was MORE improvisational and had an excellent uppercut as well as a sound arsenal on the inside… Wlad GRABBING is often reliant on his opponent being WEAKER, SMALLER and Outgunned or intimidated… By round 3 Lewis was walking thru Vitalis best and bouncing hard right hands and uppercuts off his DOME…. Now I concede Wlad is a BETTER one shot puncher than his Big Bro but his mother endowed Vitali with the better chin because Wlads is best suited to shaving and not taking shots from fellow HW’s…. In conclusion there is little doubt in my mind that Wladimir Klits on his BEST day could NOT go 12 rounds with Lewis, Wlads too soft for a fellow big man with a mean streak…..

Posted October 11, 2013 1:48 pm 


BEARS

Lennox is not hardly worth 20 million let alone 100. lol @ lennox. what a joke. and he would get pummeled anyway. his legacy was already engulfed by vitaly as the last thing lennox heard before his career ended by force of vitaly was BOOOOOOOOO!!!!! lennoxs legacy got smoked in what officially went down as a win!!!!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 1:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, stop whining just because I am the BOSS of your brain EITHER find a way to defuse my logic and boxing knowledge or do the appropriate thing and cleanse my feet in the tradition of Jesus…. I have given you a short list of things you can do, please make the decision most appropriate for yourself sooner than later… Yours Truly SREDMOND!

Posted October 11, 2013 1:31 pm 


Cliff Richard

Lewis pulled the the left hook at the end of round 6 anyway.. More Tark-isms..

Posted October 11, 2013 1:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, has shown how he feels about Vitali he basically compares him to Andre Berto!! LOL Berto was a very good fighter at his best but his fortunes have slipped… Klits is a 250 pound man who was bigger than Lennox but Tark suggests he needed protection like Andre Berto?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That would mean Klits is unfit to be HW Champion… Tark I am laughing at your downgrade of Vitali!!

Posted October 11, 2013 1:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark wants Lewis to go to hell but he felt Wlad did NOTHING wrong the other night and deserves the MEDAL of honor… If ANYONE deserved a penalty in the Lewis vs Klits fight it would have been Vitali who tried to kick Lennox when he was trying to help him off the canvas…. But AGAIN we Lewis fans are NOT whiners trying to get political about the fight we LIKED the OBVIOUS well earned result and it was agreed with by all experts present and writers…. Lews and Vitali fought a brutal battle but like Lennox said as he celebrated and Vitali moaned in the ring like a mother who lost her child “When the going gets tough the tough get going and I’m tougher than him”……Wurrrrrrrddddddd Lennox!

Posted October 11, 2013 1:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, you say “we don’t score bouts on how boxers look but points at the end” first of all the fight NEVER got to the “End” and Vitalis appearance is VERY relevant because it was VISUAL examinations that led the Dr to make the ONLY correct choice… And if you think the condition a fighter is in physically does NOT matter then you are NUTS especially when it affects his ability to continue… Now I KNOW you guys wanna shorten Lewis vs Klitschko but remember at the beginning of the contest the announcer says “This bout is scheduled for 12 rounds”…..FACT is that Vitali was NOT getting to round 12 because Lewis was BREAKING his body down which is simply a TERRIFIC result, that EYE was literally one of the WORST I have ever seen and Klits had 3 rounds to get Lewis outta there but FACT is that he is NOT a BIG one punch boxer… ALSO he is NOT used to fighting guys who are his physical equal, or approximation height, reach, weight often… Lewis gave Vitali the WORST beating of his career, whereas Vitali was NOT the worst beating of Lewis career, Rahman, McCall, and even Mercer gave him much more drama…So in conclusion simply accept that historically subordinate place that Vitali occupies, it is still good enough to get him in the HOF but he is NOT gonna be amongst Top 10 HW’s by a long shot with that resume and his scant realestage the accumulated during his reign… I’m sorry to break this to you man, Ok thats a lie I’m NOT sorry!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted October 11, 2013 1:21 pm 


TARK

In fact, Moret only gave Lewis one tepid warning for rubbing the palm of his right glove in VItali’s face during the fight.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:15 pm 


TARK

HeavyweightTruth…, “lennox had soaked it up and was now coming back with bombs that VK couldn’t avoid.” LMFAO

Vitali certainly avoided the last bomb Lewis threw.. A left hook Lewis flagrantly threw well AFTER the bell sounded to end round six (6).

The corrupt referee Lou Moret didn’t even warn Lewis for punching after the bell… In fact he only gave Lewis one tepid warning for rubbing the palm of his right glove in Lewis’s face during the fight. Morete never called any of the egregious fouls Lewis committed.

Moret is the same referee who let Guerrero foul Berto over 100 times without calling a foul. With any other referee the VK-LL fight would have gone to the scorecards. The major gashes appeared right after the holding and hitting with the edge, palm, and heel of Lewis’s right glove in the 3rd round..

Even with blood flowing into his left eye for much of the fight Vitali maintained his lead on the scorecards… He won the fight.

The HBO crew certainly commented on Lou Moret’s lack of foul calling for illegal tactics in more than one fight… During Robert Guerrero’s holding and hitting of Andre Berto, Max Kellerman shouted, “Shades of Lennox Lewis” to knowing laughs from other members of the crew… It wasn’t so funny to Berto.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:13 pm 


SREDMOND

K2 Fan, I KNOW you wish you could control the content on ESB and live in a world where your idols are NEVER criticized nor their flaws discussed but thats called COMMUNISIM AND CENSORSHIP sorry man thats not how we do things here in the US….The Klits are subject to the same critiques as anyone else is… See I welcome you guys rebuttals and overreactions because frankly I’m VERY confident in my opinions, I don’t need a consensus to stand on my ideals….Your WEAK assertions about Lewis actually amuse me in light of the fact he POUNDED your fighter and despite Vitali landing more blows his simply were NOT doing the job and Lewis’s were… “Didn’t show up for a rematch” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! What rematch there was NONE scheduled? Lewis punched Vitali STRAIGHT in the face in round 3 and added another 4 distinct wounds for good measure all wonderfully legal and well placed hard shots on a night he fought in a VERY sloppy manner…Your revisions only have a PLACE on these threads and inside your clouded brain because history records a simple tale of these guys going to war, Vitali performing better than expected but Lewis putting 60 stitches in his face, winning the FINAL round and out of the goodness of his heart Dr Paul Wallace pulling Klitschko outta there…. What happens next???? Lewis retires Undisputed HW Champion and Vitali spends the rest of his career trying to use the 4 rounds he won as the pinnacle moment of his career… The End… Lewis is an enshrined HOFer and last man to retire so decorated, there is NOT a shot in the world Vitali retires with more than that same rusty belt he won from Samuel Peter… Jus the facts !

Posted October 11, 2013 1:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Adrian, I know these points are SMASHING into your depleted cerebellum but the assault is simply gonna continue… YES Vitalis lead was NOTHING….What is imposing about a 2 point lead with 6 rounds to go???? ESPECIALLY when your opponent (Vitali) is BADLY hurt, bleeding all over the ring, his vision is increasingly compromised and you have one of the best right hands in HW history? AGAIN you are mired in this fantasy of “scorecards being read at the end of 12″ during a “chess match” Lewis vs Klits was NOT a “chess match” it was a SLUGFEST and the fact is Lewis had the HEAVIER hands as evidenced by his ability to dispatch opponents like Golota, Grant, Briggs and Morrison QUICKLY when he decided it was time… Also evidenced by the amount of damage his punches were causing Klitschko who is a KNOWN arm puncher that required 10 rounds of sustained punching to stop TINY Adamek who began at 175 pounds../ث

Posted October 11, 2013 1:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Eric, the fact that Vitali “wanted” or “begged” for a rematch is pointless because thats NOT what was in contention the FACT is that when presented with what is MOST times a once in a lifetime opportunity he FUMBLED the ball… How man of his deposed challengers has he rematched??? This is NOT a tournament where you get a best of of 3 or 4 depending…. He came, he fought, he failed NOW he just has to keep living with it… As for Lewis being “GREAT” or at his “PEAK” thats just laughable Lennox had been knocked COLD a few fights before by a 15-1 underdog then he shows up at his HEAVIEST weight in the ring and simply looks terrible (Not Klits fault)…. The notion that at the PEAK of his powers as a boxer Lewis retired is another FABLE being peddled by Klitschko fans to try and bolster their case that Lewis had YEARS of Top notch boxing ahead of him, truth is he was 38 when he finally said enoughs enough and that is often a mental as well as physical reality….What pisses of CRAZY Klit fans is that he did NOT go the typical route and take ONE that extra fight where its cruelly displayed in the ring, Leonard, De La Hoya, Louis, Ali, Roy Jones and about 95% of formerly Great fighters….

Posted October 11, 2013 12:58 pm 


eric

One last thing just coz I want to call out you that are full of garabge most of you poster on here claimed that klitschko vs povk… should not have a rematch and your main reason was coz a fight has to be close in order for the rematch to take place, thats what most of you said. Klits… vs lewis was a close fight, im not asking your opinion, the facts stand alone, it was very close and got stoped on cuts. Regaurdless of cuts it was a close bout which warrents a rematch. Would have been a legandary fight that all of us would have remembered but if it was up to you guys somehow you guys once again allways try to make boxing suck by saying great fights should not have happened. I want to see great fights but somehow you guys always makes excuses why great fights for the fans should not happen, I find that very anti boxing to say the least shame on you excuse makers. If it were up to you, you guys would shut down and make horrid agruments to prevent great fights from taking place, which makes zero sence. Owell no reason to cry over spilt milk.

Posted October 11, 2013 12:46 pm 


eric

One last thing just coz I want to call out you that are full of crap most of you poster on here claimed that klitschko vs povk… should not have a rematch and your main reason was coz a fight has to be close in order for the rematch to take place, thats what most of you said. Klits… vs lewis was a close fight, im not asking your opinion, the facts stand alone, it was very close and got stoped on cuts. Regaurdless of cuts it was a close bout which warrents a rematch. Would have been a legandary fight that all of us would have remembered but if it was up to you guys somehow you guys once again allways try to make boxing suck by saying great fights should not have happened. I want to see great fights but somehow you guys always makes excuses why great fights for the fans should not happen, I find that very anti boxing to say the least shame on you excuse makers. If it were up to you, you guys would shut down and make horrid agruments to prevent great fights from taking place, which makes zero sence. Owell no reason to cry over spilt milk.

Posted October 11, 2013 12:43 pm 


K2 Fan

Lenny’s voice in retirement , Sredmond , laments ; ” His fans Vitaly’s )
keep trying to crowbar a win from history by rewriting the playbook
i. e. calling Lewis a ” coward ” a ” cheat ” , a ” liar ” and anything
else they can concoct ” …… Uh , NO concoction necessary . What
would YOU call a guy who ;
1.) Failed to show up for a re match out of FEAR ?
2.) Used the UNDERSIDE of his glove to inflict a cut on his opponent ?
3.) Promised to re match and then blatantly renigged ?
If it walks like a duck … Well you know the rest .
It seems like the concocting is pretty one sided , on the part of those , so desperately trying to rebuild a cracked piece of pottery .

Posted October 11, 2013 12:26 pm 


eric

Vitili did everything even almost was begging for rematch. Lewis wasent that old after that fight, he was still great. Vitili also took that fight on short notice. Getting a cut is not a reason a fighter shoulnt get a rematch lol thats gota be the most dumb thing I ever read on this site, im still cracking up over that statment, well at least I got a great laughf. Lewis won the fight, and lewis could have gave vitili the rematch because vitili deserved it and the whole world wanted to see it. No matter what anyone says, that will never change even in thecminds of you posters on here that belive in santa and bunny rabbits that hide easter eggs in your back yard. Your agruments are weak almost laughfable.

Posted October 11, 2013 12:12 pm 


eric

Why anyone would have to explain why vitili should have gotten a rematch against lewis is a waste of time to even engage in such a silly argument, if you dont know why then your stupid or just try n to act like a dumb lib… the facts are there, and 100% proof and you know it. No matter what the facts are you trouble makers and liars will just keep making lame arguments that make no sense. I see no point in having a discussion with people that at least cant be honest.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:56 am 


VITALI

Lennox knew he couldn’t outpoint Vitali!!!

If it went to the cards like it should have, Vitali WINS!!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 11:52 am 


WTF

It is just you.

Posted October 11, 2013 11:46 am 


HeavyweightTruth

Is it just me or are all the VK lovesick puppies ignorant of the fact that all the points lead you have in the bag are NULL and VOID if you get spanked and stopped? I know you kids are missing VK as he’s been putting off fighting Bermane for sooo long,but lets come back to reality.VK put up a good fight,it wasn’t good enough,he couldn’t get out of the way of the lethargic bombs Lewis was landing,he had his chance,but came up short.How is this assessment biased? Did VK come up short or not? If not,how come he didn’t win? Can you put these simple concepts together to form an adult,reasoned thinking result?I really don’t understand why you need to defend VK,as he fought a great fight for the first 4 rounds.If he’d embarrassed himself,i can see why you’d feel bad,but he did anything but,he went and took it to Lennox from the opening bell,and I was thinking…potential upset….but the tide turned,old Lenny came on strong and caused the stoppage.See the difference? ATG and wannabe ATG.Like some of you on here…Educated Boxing Fans and Wannabe Educated…the two camps are clear from which posts state FACTUAL EVENTS and which ones are full of despair and historical revisions…

Posted October 11, 2013 11:34 am 


K2 Fan

Adrian ; good call ! You along with almost everybody on this site ,
knows Sredmond’s agenda AND his tactics ! He uses multiple
names to keep spewing his hateful , hypocritical lies about the Klitchkos , yet I don’t see the ” fair ” ESB moderators , ban any of his
putrid crap . He is able to reel off 7 – 8 posts with no problem , yet
, if you try it , you get a ” you’re posting to fast , slow down ” and
you post is deleted . Even handed , unbiased , fair policy , indeed !

Posted October 11, 2013 11:03 am 


Adrian

Sredmond. —.”Its laughable to sell Klitschkos 2 round lead while getting his face rearranged and LOSING as the equivalent of these fighters accomplishments … ”

To sell two rounds lead???? Lol lead for what ? Playing chess or boxing.???
Rounds scoring is a telltale of a fight how it went you hypocrit. !! We don’t judge fights on fighters look at the end of the fight but on a scoring BOXING points you idiot!

Posted October 11, 2013 10:58 am 


Anonymous

bottom line is Lewis was way out of shape when he fought VK, a replacement for Kirk Johnson ( A fat undisciplined fighter) that was to be Lewis’s last fight…..a prime Lewis would have blasted VK even earlier….facts are what they are and people can imagine all they want, the W went to Lewis and that’s the bottom line

Posted October 11, 2013 10:53 am 


Adrian

Sredmond – ok we get it already you hate white boxers , what’s new? You are writing about klitchkos how bAd they are here for a decade now lol. …we get it … And also we get it you have other nick names in here writing the same thing just like Vivek And his articles ….

Posted October 11, 2013 10:45 am 


* BLURRED LINES *

vitali and wlad would beat coward lewis.

Posted October 11, 2013 10:13 am 


Unbiased Dane

HeavyweightTruth said:
‘it’s simply a fact that when you look at their resumes,neither has a win over an ATG.’
Please not this Hof og ATG resume nonsens. Doesnt it matter what shape the ATG is in ?, Fighting a shell of a Mike Tyson doesnt count that much, Buster Doughlas beat a much better version long before Lennox did. And how prime was Evander Holyfield ? wasnt he 38 in the rematch, according to some Lennox defenders, Lennox was old and fat at 37. after his fights with Lennox Holyfield looked far from ATG material against John Ruiz. And when you have two brothers totaly dominating everyone they have fought for a decade this will also prevent fighters to be considered HOFérs or ATG. Bowe beat Holyfield twice but was running scared from Lennox and was losing to Golato twice until the unstable Pole got an meltdown. But since Bowe beat an ATG twice does this mean Bowe has achieved more than the Klitschko´s.? i dont think so :-)

Posted October 11, 2013 10:08 am 


SREDMOND

Wlad gets dinged because he beat no HOF fighters but he was stopped 3x in his prime by unimpressive boxers… This NEVER happened to Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes or Joe Louis… And it begs the question how would Wlad fared against some of the better boxers out there? His stats are impressive but after his 45th bout he looked destined for the scrap heap (Brewster) I don’t think he was 30 years old then… He has stayed on his feet post Peter and clinched his way to a really nice run but a lot of people are lukewarm or worse on this boxer…

Posted October 11, 2013 9:54 am 


SREDMOND

Eric, we disagree truth is that Klitschko lost FAIR and SQUARE due to injuries wrought upon him by his opponent… When did he give Solis who’s leg collapsed a rematch? Reality is that When you position Vitalis desire for a rematch vs Lewis concluding that he was ripe for retirement then Klits “wants” become a NON issue in
My mind, he was a LATE replacement who came up short and that’s how the cookie crumbles, the over emphasis on this bout by Klit fans is because Vitalis resume is very weak despite his consistency against the aforementioned weak competition… His fans keep trying to crowbar a win out of history by rewriting the playbook ie calling Lewis “a coward” “a cheat” “a liar”
And anything else they can concoct, well we are NOT having it nor tolerating historical revisions designed to get Lewis name on Klits resume… These lowly dogs will be addressed
And handled…

Posted October 11, 2013 9:49 am 


HeavyweightTruth

eric,no honest boxing fan will be bothered that VK did so well against Lewis.I’ll be the first to say he fought a great fight.I admire Kbros for being the disciplined athletes they are.But I was very disappointed with the condition of Lewis and his lack of speed and fitness in that fight.Nobody in their right mind blames KBros for not fighting ATG’s that aren’t available to fight.But it’s simply a fact that when you look at their resumes,neither has a win over an ATG,in fact Wlad has never fought one.I would love for there to have been a couple of ATG’s around for Kbros to fight.It’s what defines you as a fighter: your level of opponents….i’d love to see Wlad fight the equivalent of a prime Holyfield,lewis or Tyson….it would bring the best out of Wlad…but it is what it is….and finally,when you say Vitali wanted a rematch to get an ATG on his record,well,he already did have Lewis on his resume,Lewis gave him a chance and he came up short.Do you apply this flawed thinking to all fighters? Shouldn’t Wlad give Haye a rematch,as he barely laid a glove on haye for the entire fight? Should Floyd give all his 40 opponents a rematch so they can try and get a win over an ATG? Chances to win a world title are few a far between,so when you get that opportunity to better make sure you win…losing a fight,especially by a bad stoppage,caused by an accumulation of big punches,is the least likely scenario to deserving a rematch.

Posted October 11, 2013 9:23 am 


Hosteen

Wilder is great at brutally smashing cracked eggs

Posted October 11, 2013 9:12 am 


HeavyweightTruth

Why,in the juvenile minds of some,did VK so greatly deserve a rematch against Lewis?Was it because they went hammer and tongs for 12 rounds to a controversial split decision and nobody could really separate them? Or is it because,although a fat,slow Lewis forced a stoppage by doing what champs do,find a way to win,and beat VK,some VK fans find the pill too bitter to swallow and cling for dear dear life to the notion that,had Lewis given VK ANOTHER shot,this time it would be different….yes it would….Lennox would have pushed himself to get into peak shape and dismantled VK in worse fashion….(if that’s possible…)….but Lewis really didn’t have the drive anymore to get into that condition,hence he retired….if Lewis had beaten the brakes off VK in a rematch,some VK fanboys would be insisting on 3rd fight,that VK had hurt his arm/shoulder/heart etc,or that he’d been drugged,or that lennox had tied VK’s laces together….

Posted October 11, 2013 9:09 am 


eric

If anybody in boxing deserved a rematch it was vitili and to say other wise shows you know nothing about boxing and or it bothers you vitili did as well as he did, you want others to be honest then turn around and say something so foolish. I can admitt lewis won, I like lewis, great champ and classy guy. One other thing, if their are no holyfeilds, mike tysons and lennox lewis ‘s around in the heavy weight divison for the klitschko s to beat, then how is it their fault ? If theres no hall of famers to fight how can you complain that they dont have one on their record. They beat the best out there, what more can you ask, you can complain about fairy tale circumstances that dont excist but when break it down really makes no sense to complai nabout something that cant even happen. Vitili tryed to get a rematch to have a hall of famer on his resume but got turned down at no fault of his. Your argument is and has always been like listen n to stories of bigfoot and easter bunnys.

Posted October 11, 2013 8:50 am 


SREDMOND

Vitali fans are like petulant children who cannot simply say, “hey Vitali gave Lewis a run for his money” before he lost… NOOOOO in their minds Lewis owed Klits something ie a loss or delaying a well earned retirement… Vitali fought on 10 years after the Lewis bout (4 year break) why did Klits retire? Did someone retire him? Or was it the reality and toll boxing takes in the body and mind? Lewis gave Vitali a shot at the title and with NO excuses it was Klitschkos job to go in there and WIN absent thoughts of a “rematch” I’m glad Lewis dug deep, stopped Klits and then retired on top, I’m glad Vitali did NOT get another shot because honestly he did NOT deserve it… It’s a lesson to hungry boxers, when the time comes you BETTER get the job done because you have no idea if you get another crack
At it… Klits overly methodical “grind you down” style is fine against Adamek, Briggs and Charr (who he beat Via cut” EUREKA! But against Lewis who was hitting back HARDER he needed answers he didn’t have, which was a BIG punch and
More aggression… Without the Lewis fight WHICH he lost Vitalis career is worth casual mention despite him being HOF worthy… Beating Sam Peter does not really set you up as an ATG…..

Posted October 11, 2013 8:26 am 


K2 Fan

I hope people are not taking Leaky Lenny seriously with his latest
ravings about his ” comeback ” ! Except for a few of his hardbitten
” fans ” who would seriously consider such a ridiculous possibility .
He has already shown the world , that he was too frightened to
fight Vitaly again , when he was still able to , so who would want to
se him ” fight ” ANYBODY now , that he is NOT ! Stay retired Lenny ,
better for you , better for us !

Posted October 11, 2013 8:22 am 


SREDMOND

Every fighter has to retire at some point, but we are so accustomed to seeing Champions keep fighting after their abilities and motivation have waned… People are hoping the SAME thing will happen to Floyd Mayweather so they can say
“See he was never great” even though the man barely lost rounds in his prime….Look at who Vitali had been facing as time marched on a slew of fighters that are not really gonna be a big deal upon retirement… Derrick Chisora who former Cruiser Haye BLEW OUT in 5 rounds, Manuel Charr a complete NOBODY, Adamek who was a damn good LHW and Cruiser but is an undersized HW who has struggled with another Small HW like Chambers who’s supposed to drop down, and Steve Cunningham a Cruiser who people think he got gifted against… Adamek has not been stopping anyone at HW and he was WAYYYY Outgunned against Klits… Lewis was fighting a PRIME fellow BIG man who went on to go Undefeated 10 years AFTER Lewis did that hatchet job on his face… The Klits piling up defenses against this level of comp has been taken in context and has not inspired real interest in North America they can beat another 15 Charrs, or produce 5 more CRAP bouts like Povetkin and a lot of the boxing world will still gain their retirement despite their effectiveness…

Posted October 11, 2013 8:12 am 


HeavyweightTruth

Why do VK sack huggers cling to the fantasy that Lennox was scared of VK? It’s laughable.Maybe seeing the damage he inflicted upon VK traumatised Lewis.I mean,VK’s face was the stuff of nightmares….lol….I especially enjoyed the theatrics of VK at the end of that fight….where VK was slumped on his stool at the end of the 6th,bloodied,disfigured and wondering how the heck he was going to beat Lewis,and his corner were suggesting maybe call it a day,he was there,nodding in agreement,knowing he was beat,he’s shot his load,lennox had soaked it up and was now coming back with bombs that VK couldn’t avoid….then the Doc comes in,the fight stopped,and SUDDENLY,VK becomes animated and pleads for the fight to continue,like a travesty of justice had been committed,all the time KNOWING he couldn’t continue with damage like that…Lennox Lewis ATG,destroyer of ATG’s,Vitali =good heavyweight with ONE ATG on his record:a loss.The next best fighters VK has fought is probably Sam peter or Derek Chisora…lol…

Posted October 11, 2013 8:00 am 


SREDMOND

The Great Lewis having a little fun and stirring the pot! Why not? Wlad just came of another DUD/EPICALLY UNWATCHABLE bout and he hears the dismay and apathy that now surrounds the HW Division… Adults all know he’s not coming back, but he was really the last true HW Titan who cleaned out a division of quality fighters and was in the last Well contested bout amongst big men that had historical significance when he CHOPPED Vitali down…Vitali didn’t “retire Lewis” he was the LAST fighter that LEWIS DEFEATED before he voluntarily retired with all of his titles intact… The last boxer to ACTUALLY defeat Lewis was Hasim Rahman who knocked him flat…. Let’s look at some bouts where a fighter dominated and beat an older fighter so bad he pretty was done “Manny Pacquaio vs Oscar De la Hoya” for 8 rounds PAC Man pummulled ODH it was ONE sided from start to finish, the ref came to the corner and told Oscar “you’re gonna have to show me something” Jim Lampley “Manny Pacquaio is annihilating Oscar De La Hoya”… Nacho calls the fight “he’s too fast” Oscar concedes he no longer has it and how great PAC is after he quits on his stool….2.) Joe Louis vs Marciano, Marciano puts the older fighter out, makes it clear he’s DONE as a boxer… 3.) Mike Tyson Vs Michael Spinks…. Spinks an undefeated fighter who was a Great LHW And had 2 close wins over Holmes was knocked senseless in 90 seconds by Tyson… NEVER seen in the ring again….Its laughable to sell Klitschkos 2 round lead while getting his face rearranged and LOSING as the equivalent of these fighters accomplishments … There was no “court of public opinion with Tyson, PAC, and Marciano each guy badly beat up and stopped the other boxer the rules NEVER changed for Vitali, who won neither an actual NOR moral victory he accomplished NOTHING special because we had seen Lewis lose but unlike Rahman or McCall for one evening Klits could not get the job done…

Posted October 11, 2013 7:59 am 


James Blond

Lewis’s fears retired Lewis. The cowardly lion was gone once Vitali was his next mandatory opponent. Look it up gents.

Posted October 11, 2013 7:34 am 


OneInchPunch

behind on all card….. so what if Vitali had won four or five rounds… the fight is over 12 and Lewis started to take him apart. for me if Lewis didn’t F*&K-up his face to stop the fight it was only a matter of time as the tide had turned. VK had his moment and could not take it… then the champion started to show whey he was the champion!! VK fans have to live with his four or five rounds he won against lewis and not believe he had shot his load, had his chance and could not take it!! the rest is just a fantasy to big up there Idol

Posted October 11, 2013 6:48 am 


HeavyweightTruth

Truth-speaker-to say VK retired Lewis amounts to saying that anyone who had a tough fight then retired,was effectively retired by that opponent….people use this bunkum to cling to the only success VK had versus Lewis ;he gave him a tough fight.I agree with that- a prime,young super heavyweight gave a slow,puffing,overweight Lewis a tough night,no doubt.But what makes a champion and more importantly, a legend,is pulling out the goods in the face of adversity to get the win.Lennox did this,Vitali didn’t.LL was too slow to avoid some of VK’s shot’s,VK wasn’t good enough to avoid some of Lennox’s shots.The difference is,Lewis shots had more on them.Otherwise,it would be LL who had a face like it had been thru a meat grinder.Was the fact that VK gave LL a hard fight a deciding factor in Lewis retiring? Of course.But so was the fact that he no longer had the hunger to train to the level required to fight and beat good heavyweights like Vitali,and it showed in the fight.Lennox still had the will to win,but not the hunger to do what was necessary to be the best he could be.That’s a dangerous place to be in boxing.We all know that lennox was looking for some easy fights to wind down his career and pick up some easy money against no-hope competition like (Kirk Johnson),much like the KBros have been doing these past few years….lennox knew he could do as little as possible and still beat the B level guys….but when he fought VK he had a reality check…VK was better than he thought,but more importantly,Lewis realised he was no longer operating at the peak of his powers and on the slide…so to be fair,i’d say that VK helped Lennox make the right decision….but to say VK retired him is an enormous stretch.If Vitali had pummeled Lewis and badly hurt him causing a stoppage,then i’d whole heartedly agree with you,but the REVERSE happened….Lewis pummeled VK to cause the stoppage….VK had his chance to beat an ATG and couldn’t come up with the goods on the night.There’s no shame in that.VK fought a great fight,it just was’t enough.get over it.

Posted October 11, 2013 6:22 am 


* BLURRED LINES *

Lewis’ Mom retired Lewis.

Posted October 11, 2013 6:12 am 


Truth Speaker

Most fighters on the eve of retirement at least give a clue in the post fight interview that they will “have to think about going on or not” you heard none of that from the lioness, rather “if the money is right I’ll fight him again!” As history has shown, Lewis would later go on to chase a pointless rematch with Tyson, even though VK was ready to go just 4 months later . He would then destroy Kirk Johnson later that year becoming Lewis’s Mandatory. If was ONLY from this moment on, that Lewis decided to call a day on his up and down and inconsistent career. Accept it Lewis nut huggers.

Posted October 11, 2013 5:55 am 


Truth Speaker

HeavyweightTruth, I most certainly CAN accept that Lewis beat Vitali. The record books show it. I also accept the fact that Vitali RETIRED Lewis. If ever there was a lucky escape in a fight, that was it- behind on all cards (collapsing onto the stool) at the end of the 6th (albeit a good sixth, probably his last hurrah) Lewis realised he was looking into the gallows. Before the Vitali fight No Way was Lewis thinking or mouthing off “This is going to be my last fight!” but then after the Vitali fight No Way was Lewis gonna fight again. Not after that walk with the devil. Lewis won the fight but Vitali most certainly will always be regarded as the man who turned the lights out on Lewis’ career permanently. Deal with it guys.

Posted October 11, 2013 5:49 am 


HeavyweightTruth

Coochie – the muppets that drone on about VK “retiring” Lewis live in fantasy land and can’t accept that Lennox beat Vitali.A slow,ageing,on the slide,sluggish,easy to hit Lewis was able to take everything a PRIME VK had to offer and nearly removed his face….you’d think all these VK knobjockeys would be pleased the ref stopped that fight when he did,most probably saving VK from losing his sight and getting KTFO….these low IQ fanboy fantasists talk like it was Lewis who came away with a face like it had been machete’d…..

Posted October 11, 2013 5:38 am 


OneInchPunch

Vitali retired him (lewis)…. thats a nice way to retire…. F&£k-up someone face and get the win.

Posted October 11, 2013 5:13 am 


BOX

spartacrust, It DOES matter if vitali was winning on scorecards you idiot!

Posted October 11, 2013 4:52 am 


HeavyweightTruth

DJ-Lewis was not exciting? WTF? You mean like his laborious 1st round demolition of a prime Golota? That would have taken Wlad 9 or ten rounds to breakdown….Or his 1st round Knockdown and 2nd round stoppage of Ruddock,who went toe to toe with Tyson twice….or Lennox’s “sent me to sleep” 3 knockdowns and stoppage of a PRIME Briggs,where Lennox took a huge hook from Briggs,smiled,leant back casually from another humdinger,then just smashed Briggs with a couple of punches to drop him AGAIN….compared to VK taking 12 rounds to labour to appoints win against an inactive,old,massively overweight version of Briggs….or his war with prime VK,where even though he was overweight,ill-prepared and on the slide and very sluggish and slow,while being tagged with lots of good shots from VK,he was landing bombs on VK,including an uppercut that resembled a nuke(props to VK for having one of the best chins I’ve seen)….or LL’s total destruction of Morrison,prime Grant,the best and most ballistic right cross ive seen in Rahman 2,the stunning combo that lifted Botha off the canvass and thru the ropes,the sweet,destructive uppercut that almost took Derek Williams head off his shoulders….I could go on….did lennox have some stinkers? sure,every heavyweight I can think of has….but which heavyweights body of work would you say is more exciting than Lennox in the modern HW era? There aren’t many.Holyfield and Tyson are the only two that come to mind…

Posted October 11, 2013 4:45 am 


Anonymous

Reem = SITH. Sick In The Head. Fact.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:36 am 


spartacrust

Vitali LOST against lewis! Get over it…doesn’t matter if vitali was winning on scorecards, if the ref had let it continue, then lewis had another 6 rounds to smash vitali to pieces and Jo him, its lucky the fight got stopped before some serious damage got done…so shut up tark or whatever you’re called.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:36 am 


DJ

Lewis was not exciting … and he was a cheater.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:12 am 


BOX

AssyrianGod

you know NOTHING about boxing.

Posted October 11, 2013 4:09 am 


AssyrianGod

Lewis proved all he had to, he beat everyone in his era. He wont come back, not for any money. A peak Lewis takes Wlad, Vitali, Fury, Pulev, Haye and all the top heavies today. A fat, unconditioned and fading Lewis beat Vitali eventually, so I cant see why there is so much hate from some quarters. And Lewis was far and away more exciting to watch then Wlad.

Posted October 11, 2013 3:54 am 


nameless

Tark is a lennox hater……he is clueless at thinking but has a parrot level of understanding of boxing trivia

Posted October 11, 2013 3:47 am 


Anonymous

WTF?

Our electricity and gas bills are going up again by between 6 and 8% again on November 15th!

WTF?

Ever since Ukraine had that stand off with Russia regarding their fuel pipe lines and Europe sat and did nothing we have been the victims of extortion on a truly mind boggling scale. Disgusting! Time for the real men to stand up and take action against these money grabbing b*st**ds who have been ripping us off for more than 10 years!

Posted October 11, 2013 3:28 am 


Connected

Save the Tortoise.
youtube.com/watch?v=AJzL_wyMahU

Posted October 11, 2013 2:16 am 


nameless

No he said the opposite of that

Posted October 11, 2013 2:09 am 


Farmboxer

Lennox lewis said he will not come back, not even for $100,000,000! I don’t know how this rumor started, but Lewis WILL NOT COME BACK, thus according to Lewis.

I wish he would come back. Vitali would love to fight him!!!!!!!

Posted October 11, 2013 2:06 am 


Dan

256 posts and the only interesting thing I read on here was about tortoises…….

Posted October 11, 2013 2:02 am 


Connected

Canelo 152

youtube.com/watch?v=QbopQKZ1Ops

Posted October 11, 2013 1:59 am 


Kingston Town = fake TARK

Posted October 11, 2013 1:55 am 


Connected

You know when your internet connection goes off for 2 minutes, you phone them up, put you on hold for 3 minutes, then they politely answer it is not good enough, bad.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:49 am 


Connected

There are pot holes on the roads, disgusting, how they dare to attempt to damage are expensive automobiles., alright tarquin how was Latin classes today, you got to know how to speak Latin, it’s posh.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:39 am 


TARK

Tachyon.., And for your other question.., If Fury can upset Haye in convincing fashion — and I don’t think he will but anything can happen — the way Fury runs his mouth the fight with an aging Wladimir will be VERY interesting to follow Wladimir-Pulev which is the next one.

If Deontay Wilder can get fights with Arreola and then Jennings — and if he can get some rounds off those guys and look good in the late rounds.. Then a Wladimir-Wilder fight would do gangbusters.. It would break all records I think — because Wilder is a gifted puncher.

And I disagree… I’ll put today’s Top-10 Heavyweights against any Top-10 at any time in fistic history… There’re twice as many humans as there were in the 1960′s and a major slice of the globe is producing top professional heavyweights that never was before.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:36 am 


Connected

I am so worried about my pension and whether I can have 4 holidays a year and what 4×4 car I will be choosing next, I am so down about things, wheres the Prozac.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:31 am 


Connected

I have to take my kids to dance class tomorrow, then to finishing school, end up like riff raf else, so important, then we have to eat in an expensive restaurant, keep up with everything, while everyone else is starving.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:27 am 


TARK

Tachyon.., Put it this way.. Ali made 2.5 million to fight Frazier in Madison Square Garden.. He made 10 million to make an improbable comeback and fight Larry Holmes. That was far and away his best payday, even though Ali put up a very poor effort.

Lennox Lewis made 37 million to fight a washed up Tyson… He’s being offered 50 million to comeback and fight Vitali or Wladimir.

That should not really be that big a risk to offer that.. It’s not that the fight will be smashingly good.. It’s the historical significance of the fight that would gain worldwide hype and media attention.

You don’t think like a businessman.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:19 am 


Connected

I have got a big house, big car, etc, etc, someone in the world is paying, they are not happy.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:17 am 


Connected

You can’t forget the poor and keep going, eventually.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:16 am 


Tachyon

Tark during the 90′s when the internet was producing billionaires I would agree. Now days people are barley making bread to feed there family I don’t see and old Lewis and a old K brother even making it to PPV. Both K brothers have looked bad in there last fights and Lewis has not been in the ring sense beating one for the K brothers. From a business stand point the fight does not hold water. I do have a question lets look at the next k brother fight from the Mayweather perspective real challenge, good fighter although I know there are none in the heavy division:-) but looking to make the best, most entertaining , crowd pleasing fight we can who would you match-up against Wlad or Vitali?

Posted October 11, 2013 1:13 am 


Connected

Living in a bubble.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:11 am 


Connected

They are not paying for it, everyone else is, it’s monopoly money, bits of paper.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:07 am 


TARK

Tachyon.., “Who in there right mind would watch the fight?” LMFAO

Half the people on the planet would watch the fight… That may be a little strong, but you’ve got to be kidding!!!

Most people thought Ali didn’t have a chance against Holmes… But they still wanted to see him try… Did anybody really think a guy was going to jump over the Snake River Canyon on a motorcycle???

Hell NO.. They just bought tickets to see what some loon was going to do.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:05 am 


Connected

The money would not be a problem, they could put up $200 million.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:05 am 


Tachyon

Tark be realistic no boxer is afraid of the fight its training camp they hate unless your a gym rat like ali, mayweather, or froch plus talk is cheap no one ever say 50 million the table for a Lewis comeback. who the hell will put up 50 mill for Lewis to fight one of the k brothers when they only get 5 mill per fight. I would bet 1k 50 mill was no where realistically in the picture for Lewis to come back.

Posted October 11, 2013 1:00 am 


TARK

Who turns down 50-million dollars for something he said he wanted to do for years and years??? Lewis does.

All he has to do is answer the bell for round 1 and the money is his. What’s the problem??? I’ve never seen anyone so scared.

Posted October 11, 2013 12:52 am 


Tachyon

Lewis is a happy and retired he throws out the come back as a carrot if you give him 100 mill sure he would come back but who in there right mind would watch the fight? No one and no money basically he gets a foot note to promote his boxing company.

Posted October 11, 2013 12:47 am 


The Two Ronnies

Fork handles
youtube.com/watch?v=OLCL6OYbSTw

Posted October 11, 2013 12:30 am 


Oil

youtube.com/watch?v=3UejQlR-P9E

Posted October 11, 2013 12:07 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

I love Lennox, but I don’t want him to come back… even for 100 Million. Stay retired Champ!

Posted October 10, 2013 11:54 pm 


Phil the power Taylor

Same as rifle shooting in the Olympics, easy compared to Darts.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:18 pm 


Texan Sam

Taylor is the power, no doubting that.

Me, I like that Hankey boy. Him who looks like a vampire and wears a cape and all that. HIm and that Fordham viking fella.

Pro sports needs athletes like them.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:08 pm 


Texan Sam

Proud African – Can I just clarify – am you a proud man and you just happen to be African?

Or you are proud of Africa very specifically as a whole continent? Like even the crazy parts?

Now I don`t got nothing against Africa, there is some good oil over there, and the only thing skimpier than the regulations is the hookers G-Strings.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:07 pm 


Phil the power Taylor

Ok,Taylor is good at darts though.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:07 pm 


Boxing

It’s double PED or Treble PED now, they train now, there is catchweights to hit.
youtube.com/watch?v=sHnBppccI0o

Posted October 10, 2013 10:46 pm 


Phil the power Taylor

Texan Sam, forget that, what about Phil Taylor, 501, you would still be on 492 and Taylor would be on a double.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:30 pm 


Texan Sam

I don`t believe one commie word that comes out of that big robots mouth

Posted October 10, 2013 10:21 pm 


Texan Sam

Them Klitschko boys father was some Soviet soldier, and in my book that makes them commie plain and simple, and if they are over here then they are goddamned red spies.

Boy we shoulda nuked the bejesus out of those freedom hatin b@stards when we had the chance.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:20 pm 


Phil the power Taylor

youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg

Posted October 10, 2013 10:09 pm 


High Jump

There is Youtube now, you can go back, you could never do that, same as Boxrec.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:01 pm 


High Jump

I have always followed Track and field, Athletics, same as Boxing, it’s very good to know the history of the sports from about 1979.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:54 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Texan Sam – Vitali is not a commie. He lives in Los Angeles. And he said that the Soviet Union told them lies about America when they were in school. He said he couldn’t believe how wonderful America was when he first came here

Posted October 10, 2013 9:52 pm 


TARK

Kingston Town.., Who fouled his ass off with impunity??? Lewis

Who was winning on all scorecards??? Vitali

Who were all the fans cheering??? Vitali

Who were all the fans booing??? Lewis

Who was ordered to rematch Vitali by the boxing orgs??? Lewis

Who reneged on a promised rematch??? Lewis

Posted October 10, 2013 9:41 pm 


High Jump

I wasn’t talking Boxing, I was talking track and field, Athletics, quite interesting really.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:37 pm 


ThrashNephilim

Why would anyone want to see Lewis to come back out of shape and if he would lose have an alibi? Also, why would anyone want to see this fight after the 12 rounds of life I want back known as Klitschko/Povetkin?!

Posted October 10, 2013 9:29 pm 


ThrashTheNephilim

Why would anyone want to see Lewis to come back out of shape and if he would lose have an alibi? Also, why would anyone want to see this fight after the 12 rounds of life I want back known as Klitschko/Povetkin?!

Posted October 10, 2013 9:28 pm 


High Jump

The high jump, jumping over the bar backwards, that is just stupid, it will never catch on, seriously, it will flop.

youtube.com/watch?v=Id4W6VA0uLc

Posted October 10, 2013 9:14 pm 


Gonzo protect the Nectar

Nectar is the largest loyalty card scheme in the United Kingdom comprising partner companies including the supermarket chain Sainsbury’s, and BP. A separate Nectar programme operates in Italy and Chile.
Nectar was launched in 2002 by Loyalty Management Group, then chaired by Sir Keith Mills, the founder of Air Miles. The programme was re-branded in 2007 to reflect a clear association with rewards. Loyalty Management Group was purchased by Aeroplan in 2009.[1] In 2010 Nectar claimed it had more cardholders than the Tesco Clubcard programme.[2] Groupe Aeroplan launched a separate Nectar programme in Italy in 2010.[3] A separate program also operates in Chile by Cencosud.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:49 pm 


Kingston Town

What’s up we get no love from the Mexico man?

Not surprise I, never met a Mexican who know how ta share a reefer man.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:38 pm 


Texan Sam

Yeah I bet you would like to see an old 48 year old man beaten and mugged Squared peckerhead, because your a sneaky goddamned Mexican. It`s because of sneaky illegals like you that good honest 50 years olds like me need to carry several weapons to put you down before you get the chance to do anything sneaky.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:35 pm 


Javier Sotomayor

White men can’t jump.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:32 pm 


Nectar

For an iPad or something.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:22 pm 


Nectar

What are 500,000 ranking points, can you trade them in.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:20 pm 


Jimmy Three Craps

Hell wit dat, I come back for 200 million….

Posted October 10, 2013 8:16 pm 


Kingston Town

Reem man, me no live in your Babylon land, me live in Kingston, Jamaica with all the righteous brothers.

Ye need ta learn sport history man, we got better heavyweight than you, and better bobsleigh team.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:14 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

500,000 ESB ranking points for Brother Turbo.

Indeed there are tiers for a reason.

One cannot even begin to convey the contempt one holds those in who dwell below Tier 3.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:12 pm 


Kingston Town

The doctor that stop ta fight and allow Vitali ta live, him be a white man.

Leader of your country, him a brother. Yall gatta basketball court at the whitehouse man.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:02 pm 


Reem

Only history yall need to know is that the great white man ALLOWED you to live!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 7:54 pm 


Kingston Town

Only history yall need to know is TKO6 man.

TKO6.

Yall get ya face ripped up by a chicken man and ya need to go find yisself another job.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:48 pm 


Wyatt Earp

KFC

Posted October 10, 2013 7:43 pm 


Kingston Town

White be beautiful till Lennox turn it inta red mush man.

Him crush that boy like a can of lilt man.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:40 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

Nice. I think we can look forward to a bit of order around here now Gonzo has returned.

Posters are forgetting that the tiers are there for a reason.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:35 pm 


Wyatt Earp

I love putting my rubbish into a “brown” bag )))

Posted October 10, 2013 7:31 pm 


Kingston Town

Shannon Briggs a white man.
No proper lion don`t be take no inhaler for no asthma man. Ya weed can sort that man.

Shannon Briggs is a white man.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:31 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

And that folks is why Brother Gonzo stands alone as ESB’s only Tier One poster…

Posted October 10, 2013 7:30 pm 


puncher007

I dare you!!! Vitali would run you over!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 7:25 pm 


Kingston Town

Vitali and Wlad man, them create the K2 ta have control on promotion and drug test man.

Them so full badman chemicals that if Vitali go camping man, and he take a slash gainst a tree man, then that tree gonna grow muscles and eyes.

Ya don`t want ta get ya eye slashed out man, don`t be go in da ring with da Jamaican Lion man.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:21 pm 


Levi Roots

Reem, go to Electric avenue, you will get lit up.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:17 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Vitali never used steroids during his pro career, only during the Olympics. Get your facts straight. Lewis was rubbing his cornrows in Vitali’s laceration, hoping it would open it even more so they would stop the fight because he was so gassed out. Lewis was KOed by two bums, the Klitschkos have hardly lost three rounds between them.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:16 pm 


Kingston Town

Pah. You a racial monster like TARK man. Like ta watch ya buffalo soldier Lennox man, but can`t swallow the jerk when he beat down ya white boys full of badman chemicals, like Vitali man and his st3ro1ds.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:11 pm 


Kingston Town

Reem man, ah see you come ta Kingston Town and talk dat smack and see if ya leave without all ya fingas and toes chapped off and shove up yer bum man.

Posted October 10, 2013 7:07 pm 


Reem

are you kiddin me fools? If not for the white man you would still be fightin lions in africa lol and don’t come up with mimimi white man bad, white man enslave us mimimimi you know what you do when white man set you free? you enslaved your own people lololol look it up, the history of liberia says it all lol

Posted October 10, 2013 7:03 pm 


Kingston Town

What is dis TARK a comedian man?

Ah think you be watchin the wrong fight man, aye.

Ya got to lay off the ganja when ya start to see them things not there man.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:59 pm 


TARK

Vitali has never been knocked down.. Lewis knocked out 2 X with one punch.

Vitali was blinded in one eye by cuts raked onto his face with a thumb strike, and the edge, heel, and palm of LL’s glove.. Even with blood flowing into his eye Lewis was missing Vitali by 3 feet with some of his swings.

That fight should have gone to the scorecards because the cuts were caused by illegal contact.. Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS so he deserved the decision.. Lewis had a crooked referee working for him.

Lewis never cut another opponent like that… Vitali has never been cut before or since… Those cuts were slashed open illegally. Lewis can’t punch that hard … LL has had a 100 opportunities to fight VK again. He’s a four flusher.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:55 pm 


Kingston Town

My man Levi can have a extra big slice of Vitali cheek.

Imagine if Lennox tooled Wlad man, we all’d have enough on the whole Island ta eat for a week.

Only ting though is I and I like to eat organic, and these brothers man are full of badman chemicals ta make them grow big.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:46 pm 


Cliff Richard

TARK ” He would have done a 2 round job on Lewis if the rematch came through. blah, blah, blah.”

Posted October 10, 2013 6:45 pm 


Lucas

Tark remind everybody when Vitalij KOd anybody in 1st (Solis had problem with knee)? 90% brothers will win over old Lewis, but Vitalij wasn’t impressive lately. 1 round is out of question if Lewis train properly. In my opinion first 2 rounds Lewis try to KO them . Lewis had heavy hans and power goes away last.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:42 pm 


Levi Roots

Klitschko had a burger face with reggae reggae sauce served by chef Lewis.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:39 pm 


Kingston Town

I and I be laughing at you white boys, hear me, ten years later and all we hear, all we hear some is ya wibblin and moanin.

Like a 6″7 milkbottle can no defend hisself in the ring that he need a dozen roses on ta internet ta do if for him man.

No ‘spect. Man had a punani on his face. My man Lennox cook that face up Jamaican style. He cook up a Jerk Vitali. Come on gatha round me brothers, we got slices of Vitali face for eva one.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:33 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

he don’t really want it anddddd that’s why he retired. it is what it is.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:28 pm 


ThrashTheNephilim

I think it would be cool to see Lewis against Wlad,… 5 or 6 years ago! But not after Lewis has been retired and can lean on the fact if he lost. And especially not after seeing Wlad’s last fight.

Posted October 10, 2013 6:05 pm 


TARK

Vitali would knock Lewis dead in the first round… He would have done a 2 round job on Lewis if the rematch came through.

Vitali was VERY pissed off about the fouling and would have given anything in the world to get Lewis back into a ring and flatten him.

Antonio Tarver was angry when they robbed AT in the 1st Roy Jones fight.. AT kept hoping Roy would give him a rematch.. Roy kept saying he wasn’t in shape, and hadn’t trained right for the 1st fight.

Tarver simpy asked, “You gonna have any excuses tonight Roy?”

Posted October 10, 2013 6:01 pm 


Reem

SHAME ON YOU LEWIS!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 6:01 pm 


Reem

Fact is Lewis chickened out of a Klitschko fight when he was at his BEST! Lewis himself said he’s like an old wine and we all know also from the K-bros that big heavyweights are hitting their peak in their late 30′s. Lewis knew even at his best he has no chance against a K-bro and therefore he retired even if in his last fight he was shamelessly booed by the public!!! What a shameful END!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 6:00 pm 


Scrooge

A question to all the kiltschko fanboys and a simple one that only requires a yes or no answer! Is there a bit on vitali’s record that reads “loss by tko to Lennox Lewis”?….. Debate over, problem solved.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:49 pm 


Reem

punch Vitali is unlike Lewis over 40!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 5:41 pm 


Demon

And still heavyweight champion of the world…………………………….

Posted October 10, 2013 5:39 pm 


punch

Anyone will a gumption knows VK will retire soon and he’s not going anywhere near Haye or Bermane as he’s lost a few steps and he’s over the hill.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:32 pm 


Op Amp

If Stervine kicks VKs ass for most of the fight and VK gets lucky with a cut and “wins” and then runs into retirement and doesn’t give him a rematch, then that would make VK retired by stervine, yes. And I will be the first to call VK a pu s sy !

Posted October 10, 2013 5:30 pm 


Demon

Bermane and Vitali. Where can I see that fight? It on youtube??? Dam how I miss that. Vitali with 1 eye battered and retired Lewis. Less shame there than getting knocked out by a smack head hahaha

Posted October 10, 2013 5:28 pm 


wes

k2 fan, same was happening to me. i guess slate didnt like what i posted.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:27 pm 


punch

I guess claiming Bermane retired VK sounds just as ridiculous as claiming that VK retired Lewis or beat Lewis. Get it.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:23 pm 


Boxtradamus

Even Haye would beat Lewis at this point. Lewis would have no ability to WIN rounds SO he would be waiting on one shot like Foreman vs Moorer. Its not worth $100 million to see that.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:21 pm 


Reality

Hilarious how Lewis that retired years ago can still eat up Klit fans. He fought the tougher brother and won, end of….. Shows how boring the hw’s of today are that a fight with a 48 year old is the best fight out there!!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 5:20 pm 


Demon

Bermane fought and battered Vitali already??? Must of missed that. When that happen?? Last week? What station? How I miss that? Dam

Posted October 10, 2013 5:19 pm 


punch

Sanders was this Sanders was that, He flipping lost actually got Koed. Your excuse doesn’t pass the smell test.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:19 pm 


Demon

Larry Merchant ” I give the Klits great credit, and I think we would give their opponents more credit if the Klits did not beat them down so badly and so easily, they are too good, not their fault”

Posted October 10, 2013 5:18 pm 


punch

Very soon we will hear Bermane retired VK and I sure a lot of people will hold on to that claim which makes me wonder how VK fanboys will react.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:17 pm 


Reem

I don’t! Lewis was scared of Sanders, he knew very well Rahman only survived the Sanders storm, because Sanders had a long golf tournament week prior to the fight! Sande3rs was owning Rahman, but then his bad stamina because of weak preparation kicked in!

Posted October 10, 2013 5:13 pm 


Demon

Vitali retired Lewis.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:11 pm 


punch

Wlad the Octopus Klinchko would be a good mop for just 2 rounds.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:09 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

AND Anonymous is stiil the biggest tosser on this site!!!ask BRUCE THE W@NKER!!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 5:08 pm 


Demon

REEM. Don’t listen to the queens rat boy

Posted October 10, 2013 5:07 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

@REEM THE RUNT!!YOU SOUND AS IF YOU HAVE OVERDOSED ON YOUR PROZACS TALKING TO YOUR SELF!! YOU DEMON DIK

Posted October 10, 2013 5:05 pm 


K2 Fan

If you don’t have the balls to print what’s posted , say so , don’t play these stupid games of ” posting to fast ” , you ninnees !

Posted October 10, 2013 5:05 pm 


Igor Sergeyivich Kholakovkhokskyov

Wlad KO Lennox if he come back, da!!

Posted October 10, 2013 5:04 pm 


punch

Here’s another Whopper, Lewis is afraid of Sanders but fought Rahman who KO Sander and fought VK who also Koed Sanders. You just can’t make these stuff up, these guys are getting more delusional day by day.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:01 pm 


JJ

The Queen, her father, mother, sister, and all that shower never did a good day’s work in their lives. Royalty continue to sponge off the rest of society thanks to a pathetic class system in the year 2013 and fawning public.

Posted October 10, 2013 5:00 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

@DEMON THE DIK!! YOU WANA EAse up on the crack man,you waffling buffoon!!your getting like that Anonymous BRUCE the chicken chocker!!

Posted October 10, 2013 4:59 pm 


Demon

Lewis cannot rewrite history as much as he would love to. Vitali retired him.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:57 pm 


punch

VK had his chance and lost.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:55 pm 


Demon

Anybody who bends over for “royalty” deserves to be executed like the sheep they are.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:55 pm 


punch

So many revisionists up here trying to rewrite history. Just because you don’t like the outcome doesn’t mean you have the right to distort the truth. VK lost to Lewis by TKO, the fight did happen, so get over it.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:54 pm 


Demon

Lewis fought terrible fighter. Washed up Tyson. Did not fight Bowe. Old cruiser weight and drew it Holyfield, never fought a southpaw, gave sanders step a side money. Got knocked out by a junkie. He was getting smashed by 1 eye Vitali till doctor saved Lewis. His fight he left with the stadium booing him. Great career hahaha

Posted October 10, 2013 4:52 pm 


PEEJ

Lewis’s era of opponents had better opponents than what the Klitchkos have had. By far way better

Posted October 10, 2013 4:48 pm 


Britains got talent

Mick

You’re the stupidest poster on ESB.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:48 pm 


PEEJ

Doesn’t matter if he was trailing on all 3 cards. He lost the first 3 and won the last 3 rounds. That is how I scored the fight. But in boxing is one of the only sports that it doesn’t matter what the score cards say if you get stopped. And unfortunately Viatali got stopped. If he went another round his eye ball would of fallen out

Posted October 10, 2013 4:47 pm 


Reem

Lewis career is a joke, he beat only washed up greats and average journeyman. He was scared to fight the real dangerous guys like Sanders, Byrd and Ruiz. He even gave up his belts when Ruiz and Byrd became mandatory. Did you ever hear Wlad or Vitali give up on his belt so there’s no need to fight the mandatory? Hell no, they are unlike Lewis REAL champions and not just beltholders!

Posted October 10, 2013 4:46 pm 


Demon

I would bet anything that Lewis to this day is having nitemares about Vitali. Vitali pretty much wrecked his legacy.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:42 pm 


Op Amp

“God save the queen” Ha! “Her subjects” “Royalty” has always been ruthless in bread TRASH! You boot lickers make me sick! Hail to FREEDOM, and kill the tyrants who seek to rule and dominate the masses!!!

Posted October 10, 2013 4:41 pm 


Reem

You are right Demon, that’s why he trained Vitali’s oponnents after he retired. He was so scraed of Vitali he wanted others to do his job and was even helping them. He cleary had nightmares of Vitali for months if not even years!

Posted October 10, 2013 4:40 pm 


Demon

Sanders would had smoked Lewis. That’s why he got step aside money

Posted October 10, 2013 4:39 pm 


Demon

Lewis did not retire at first because he thought he could have Tyson’s shell for the 2nd time. When Vitali was made mandatory he retired straight away. Vitali retired him. It has been killing Lewis every day since then.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:38 pm 


wes

slater you seen not to print people post that you don’t like. that tell me you are a bias writer.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:36 pm 


Reem

Lewis was also scared to fight Corrie Sanders!

Posted October 10, 2013 4:36 pm 


detroitko

VITALI vs LENNOX – amazing fight!!! we all know who won – DR IRON FIST

Posted October 10, 2013 4:35 pm 


Op Amp

lewis wussed out of the one of the BIGGEST rematches in boxing history! His “victory” over VK was so weak, that ALL the boxing world wanted a rematch. He is NOT coming back, he is just talking smack for the attention. I used to respect the guy, but his insecurities as far as the Klitschkos go, has REALLY shown itself through the years. His retirement has been tainted by his last fight, and all the fanboys in the world will not change that.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:34 pm 


Mick the Marmalizer

Fact: Lennox Lewis is still actually the true linage H/W champion of the World. I reckon $75, Million could be a good compromise. “GOD SAVE THE QUEEN”! & all her true subjects!!!!………….

Posted October 10, 2013 4:32 pm 


Demon

Vitali retired Lewis. Get over it. Lewis left to boo’s and Vitali is still champion ))))

Posted October 10, 2013 4:31 pm 


Scrooge

Unbiased Dane – is your name meant to be ironic? As clearly you are Infact biased lol fair enough Lennox didn’t beat vitali 100% convincingly but he did Infact win! Fact. Now, how many champions generally rematch a fighter that they’ve already beat? Not too many. As the champion they have earned that right. He fought vitali and won, end of. I’m entitled to my opinion just as you are entitled to yours and in my opinion if Lennox had fought him again and bothered to get in proper shape he would’ve had his number. I simply think, in my opinion that Lennox believed there wasn’t any other big fights left and he didn’t see the monetary value in fighting vitali again being as he’d beaten him already and vitali wasn’t the marquee name that he is now.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:21 pm 


Unbiased Dane

Markymark sure lets have another hyped up bumslayer.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:13 pm 


Unbiased Dane

Scrooge : well Lennox clearly didnt think he could beat Vitali in a rematch. Otherwise he wouldnt had held on to the title for one year, avoiding Vitali, which made WBC threatened Lennox to kick him of the throne if he didnt fight Vitali, thats when Lennox choose to retire.
Up until the cut in his fight with Vitali, Lennox didnt do eny better than Vitali´s usual victims. And before you say Lennox had proved enough, no champion who has made millions thanks to boxing fans around the world, cant just stop like this when the biggest challenge in his career is a head of him. Imagen if he really had beaten Vitali in a rematch without eny lucky cut, then Lennox would forever be considered as above Vitali.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:11 pm 


Markymark

The fact this is even being debated proves the heavyweight division needs the next Iron Mike (86-89)right now.The words boring,stale and average spring to mind concerning vitali,glass chinned and unexciting descibes the other one,Lennox was good but not great even at his peak.

Posted October 10, 2013 4:05 pm 


Anonymous

the klit bros are great hw. just ask any window lickers.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:58 pm 


punch

Last time I checked Boxrec it said Lewis TKOed VK in 6. You guys should just stop your pathetic and desperate attempts at rewriting history.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:55 pm 


Scrooge

Where’s James “lights out” Toney! One of my fave fighters back in the day! He’d do it for a few grand!

Posted October 10, 2013 3:54 pm 


punch

VK lost to Lewis and none of his butt and nuts huggers are going to change that. VK and Wlad the Octopus are and have been ok boxers and they will make good footnotes in the history of Heavyweight Boxing.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:49 pm 


bruce

billy muslim boy,have you found your little hat.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:48 pm 


Demon

Vitali retired Lewis. Lewis got sparked out twice by 2 losers and drew with a cruiser weight in Holyfirld. He also never fought a southpaw in his career. Lewis left his career to boo’s and he thought he would fight again because of Vitali’s cut. Vitali came straight back and Lewis had to retire because he had to fight Vitali again. Hahaha Lewis got the doctors decision and Vitali made him retire. So who won??? hahahaha

Posted October 10, 2013 3:47 pm 


Scrooge

I liked watching Lennox back in the day, he was better than Bowe, Holyfield and a somewhat faded Tyson. Vitali is a great fighter with more of a fighters heart than wladamir but I do think Lennox had his number back then and would’ve had it again in a rematch if it had taken place. What I really don’t agree with is people calling Lennox or indeed any fighter a coward. NO FIGHTER no matter what their skill level is a coward, it takes a brave man to climb in the ring and once there, no matter how good your team, you’re on your own. So please, no more coward comments about anyone because that just shows naivety on the posters part.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:44 pm 


Brit Box

The Klitschkos are great Boxers, but they can’t take it when a Boxer like Lewis, size, skills, punch takes it to them and he was not even trained for the fight and had Klitschko all out and gasping, have you seen V Klitschko before or since beat up like that. Lewis would of stopped him in the next couple of rounds by KO, but he did stop him by TKO anyway.I think Lewis was the only Boxer who could do that to V Klitschko, Sanders was another, but not as good as Lewis. Lewis was too good, retired with only 2 losses which he avenged.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:43 pm 


KievBxing2NY

When Lewis BEAT V. Klitchko ?? When or you mean he won the fight due to doctor stopage . When Lewis trully BEAT V. KLitchko ?Dominated him from the firdt second , nock hin down , winning on all score cards? Did Lewis win due to doctor stopage ? Yes . Did he rip Vitaly’s face ? Yes . Did he trully BEAT Vitaly ?? No f…in way .

Posted October 10, 2013 3:42 pm 


Froch Nose Boxing

Bowe would fight a Klitschko for four figures.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:40 pm 


KievBxing2NY

Test

Posted October 10, 2013 3:39 pm 


eric

Give lewis some meds to loosen up them old joints and a hover around electric scooter for his ring entrance and we got a fight boys and girls and these boys that want to be girls. Lewis still ko s fury in 3 seconds if ofcourse fury dosent ko himself in his dressing room.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:14 pm 


anonymous

Considering that the highest purse of all time was short of $30m, it’s fair to say that Lennox is only joking. The real question is why you would take that joke seriously enough to make an entire article based on it?

Posted October 10, 2013 3:05 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

“Heck he already beat one when he was out of his prime” – I guess thats why he was trailing on all three scorecards. What a way for a champion to go out.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:03 pm 


dwc

Lewis will be saying this untill hes 70…I guess he likes the ink every so often…its nothing more.Even if he did come back(which isnt going to happen really)and one of the k-bros. K.O. him in 2rds what would that prove at this point in time…it would be like McBride-Tyson really proving nothing…its all talk,LL must have been bored with his card playing this day…and wanted to cause a stir…lol.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:03 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Lewis can’t stand two white brothers holding his title. He needs the limelight. Well, its a bit too late now. Go off into the sunset, Lennox…..you had your chance to fight Vitali again. Everybody knows he retired you.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:02 pm 


PEEJ

No point in coming out now. If he did and the Klitchko won then they would claim a real victory. He would of beaten both in his prime. Heck he already beat one when he was out of his prime.

Posted October 10, 2013 3:01 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

Anonymous W@NKERS SHOULD BE BANNED OF THIS SITE!!!!YOU HERE ME BRUCE THE BISHOP BASHER!!!!HAhaha ha!

Posted October 10, 2013 2:57 pm 


dg

The problem fo Lewis was, he had to be physical to win against Klit. He might not be able to do that in rematch in that age. But he would definitely win in 12 rounds of boring fight. He said, he didn’t want jus win, he wanted to smash Klitchko.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:55 pm 


punch

Bermane is waiting for VK who is constantly injured everytime he has to fight Bermane. Forget Lennox, he’s old and retired, busted up VK and gave him a permanent scar and a blemish on his record. Love him or hate him Lennox beat VK actually TKOed him. I watched the fight over and over again, VK was holding for his dear life in the sixth round after getting clipped so all this talk about Lewis being tired is just bogus since VK was also tired with his eye almost popping out of its socket.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:55 pm 


dg

who still has questions on Lewis / Klitchko, check the end of 6th round. Klit was one punch away from been KOed. And that Lewis was in his worst shape. Both Klits have no chance against Lewis at that time.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:51 pm 


Mr Gav

Lewis has denied all claims check sky sports news. Also love what Tyson fury says I’m gonna join twitter just for him

Posted October 10, 2013 2:48 pm 


Exiled Yank

hosteen – That’s about right.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:47 pm 


SeanieP

Good fighter but not an ATG

Posted October 10, 2013 2:42 pm 


Hosteen

Wilder will fight Lewis considering he is 48 years old & hasn’t fought in a good decade!

Posted October 10, 2013 2:40 pm 


Exiled Yank

i think Lewis was about to lose the VK fight. He could barely walk he was so tired. He was fat because he had been slacking off because he was supposed to fight someone else (I can’t remember his name) and Lewis didn’t care. Lewis lost his fire after pummeling Tyson. Then he fought VK and really decided he was done. Lewis could have rematched VK but decided he wanted to leave the sport instead. I respect his decision to leave while he healthy, but I still say that he retired because he was afraid of facing VK a second time.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:38 pm 


Hosteen

More Slater hype!!

Posted October 10, 2013 2:37 pm 


Reem

Lewis was even too scared to fight Byrd and Ruiz. Especially Ruiz was giving him nightmares after he decked him in sparring

Posted October 10, 2013 2:30 pm 


JOEY

undisputed used to be the main word in boxing. now it means paper belts.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:18 pm 


Oleg

Fight Aficionado is right. Lennox Lewis wasn’t really undisputed champion either if Wlad isn’t. Too many belts. The belts are all disputed anyway, that’s what all the fighting’s about! (old pun)…

Posted October 10, 2013 2:09 pm 


Reem

Hey britard if Lewis believed he could of knocked out Klitschko first half of the fight in a rematch, he would do it and give people the figh they wanted, take the 8 figures payday that was offered him and finish his career in glory. But none of this happened, in reality Lewis was scared of Klitschko, he didn’t believe he can beat Klitschko even in the best shape he ever was, so he opted to retire like a coward and finish his carrer with boo’s.

Posted October 10, 2013 2:04 pm 


mayweather 86

@murderman. Your probably right man, but against wlad a punchers chance means a little more. Always will

Posted October 10, 2013 2:00 pm 


Reem

Coward

Posted October 10, 2013 1:58 pm 


Col

Granger – Vitali got off to a good start and won the first few rounds, but after that Lennox started to land in earnest and won the next few rounds by landing the heavier shots and wrecking Vitali’s face. Had the fight been allowed to continue, there was no way Viali could have won.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:57 pm 


JOEY

whats next big george.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:55 pm 


* BLURRED LINES *

Lewis was fat and under trained for the Klitschko fight

EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES !!!

Posted October 10, 2013 1:53 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“To be undisputed a fighter must hold the WBA, WBC, and IBF belts, and beat the man who is considered champion. This crap is confusing. Tyson held the WBC, WBA, and IBF titles, but he wans’t the champ, much less undisputed champ until he beat Spinks. This is what is wrong with boxing: too damn many belts” – True. Also in heavyweight boxing the WBO now has more credibility than the WBA, which has become a minor league belt with Povetkin, Faye et al holding it to avoid Wlad. Back then the WBO was the odd man out, now it’s the WBA whether they pretend to be legit or not.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:49 pm 


Brit Box

Lewis was fat and under trained for the Klitschko fight that he still won, he would of knocked out Klitschko first half of the fight in a rematch.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:48 pm 


Exiled Yank

To be undisputed a fighter must hold the WBA, WBC, and IBF belts, and beat the man who is considered champion. This crap is confusing. Tyson held the WBC, WBA, and IBF titles, but he wans’t the champ, much less undisputed champ until he beat Spinks. This is what is wrong with boxing: too damn many belts to confuse us all. Now sanctioning bodies have multiple belts in a single division: WBA – Interim Champion, World Champion, Super Champion, Unified Champion, Regular Champion, Champion at Rest (yes, this is real) and now they have some sort of Red white and Blue belt that looks like the ring belt; WBC Interim Champion, World Champion, Champion Emeritus, Silver Champion, the Sapphire belt (I can’t remember the title); IBF – World Champ, Interim Champ. This is all such BS! I’m still confused how Canelo and FM jr were both the WBA champ at 154. I mean even long time boxing fans who have some understanding of the mess still get lost in all the crap. I just follow the Ring Belt. It’s the safest bet.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:44 pm 


Demon

Mammy told him to stop hahahaha. They met Vitali in a office in London agter their first fight to arrange a rematch and his mammy sat there in silence. Afterwards she told her son you are not to fight that man again. Lewis made the right call as he could had been killed in a rematch and thank God his mammy saved him like any good mammy would do. No shame in admitting that Vitali is the better man.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:42 pm 


Granger

Lennox was NOT the last undisputed king of the HW’s, because everyone knew he was losing to Vitali and down by two rounds before they stopped the fight, because his glove had grazed Vitali’s eye. Yes, he won the fight, but if it had gone on, he was on his way to losing. He knew he was not the undisputed champ and promptly retired and reneged on his promise to give Vitali a rematch. He left his biggest payday on the table, because he thought he would lose and not get a lucky stoppage the next time around. That last point alone proves he was not undisputed!!

Posted October 10, 2013 1:32 pm 


TARK

Lennox Lewis would do it for 100 million. Boxing is a business. The fight would stink the planet out… Lewis wouldn’t land a good punch and he would be beaten into a pathetic stoppage—reminiscent of Holmes-Ali.

Ali got career high money, $10,000,000.00. Why not lay down 90 seconds in?

Muhammad Ali.., “Larry Holmes is nothing but a skinny kid. He can’t rumble. He’s beaten nobody. My weight is down to 220. I’m already in shape to go 15 hard rounds. Mortgage your house. Bet it on Ali. I’m going to knock Holmes out. This ain’t for the money. I’m not broke, I’m MAD. Holmes has been telling people he would have knocked me out so I fought Spinks. It’s time to put this braggart in his place—which is among 2nd rate heavyweights.”

Even if you don’t think you can win—you better make your fans believers.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:24 pm 


hecubus01

Well, what i mean by “the man” is hes the #1 rated Heavyweight in the world who also owns almost all of the belts, including the ring magazine belt….so yeah, i would say he is the king pin in the division, but he still can’t be crowned the “undisputed champion” of the world

Posted October 10, 2013 1:19 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Wlad is definitely “the man” in the heavyweight division, but he cant be considered “undisputed” while his brother is still fighting.” – Technically he’s not since Vitali has the WBC belt. But he’s as undisputed as Lewis was since he tossed one of his belts instead of defend against Ruiz, so in reality Lewis wasn’t an undisputed titlist either.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:15 pm 


Fight Aficionado

This is a non-story. Another UK tabloid report that Lewis has denied. The British media love throwing false stories out there to get people talking and buoy their website traffic. For some reason the journalists don’t care about their credibility, they just want people talking about them.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:13 pm 


hecubus01

i like the klitchkos and Wlad is definitely “the man” in the heavyweight division, but he cant be considered “undisputed” while his brother is still fighting. They don’t want to fight each (and that’s understandable), but they are the two best heavy’s in the world and as long as they’re both active and not fighting each other, neither one can be considered undisputed. Once Vitali retires, then yes, Wlad should automatically be considered “undisputed” heavyweight champ

Posted October 10, 2013 1:09 pm 


Jake

Exiled Yank, an awful champ compared to who? His terrible performance against Povetkin aside, he has NEVER come in out of shape, conducts himself with dignity, has loads of skill, does charity work and is dominate. You may not like his style but the guy never loses a round! I think what you mean is he’s “terrible” because you don’t like him.

Posted October 10, 2013 1:04 pm 


Lenin

There must be some russian billionaire interested in this. Make it happen! 1 year of training, and the Titan would be back!

Posted October 10, 2013 12:41 pm 


wes

exiled yank, was haye undisputed cuiserweight champ.

Posted October 10, 2013 12:31 pm 


murderman

Pulev is prob the only guy who could beat vlad. Maybe wilder has a punchers chance

Posted October 10, 2013 12:26 pm 


Exiled Yank

Matador – WK needs to WBC belt to be undisputed. But he is the champ, no doubt… an awful one, but still champ.

Posted October 10, 2013 12:23 pm 


Exiled Yank

He’s a funny man. No doubt.

Posted October 10, 2013 12:22 pm 


Delk1

Wlad is a BUM!!

Posted October 10, 2013 12:11 pm 


Anonymous

hw boxing today,a total joke.

Posted October 10, 2013 12:02 pm 


Papa jombolyaya

sounds like Lennox needs money. He has been hanging around the gambling poker circuit for quite sometime.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:56 am 


K2 Fan

I might have known , this trash was written by ” Slats ” !

Posted October 10, 2013 11:51 am 


Fаn

@ rod

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givе too Wlаd ,vеrу big monstеr fight…in Gеrmаnу

Posted October 10, 2013 11:37 am 


Stefano

Lewis would have gained a lot of respect should he have given credit to Vitali for his performance and then retire with dignity, saying he’s too old to keep up with the younger and more hungry man. Instead he trash talked him and then went hiding in retirement.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:16 am 


rod

Look at the division. Look for a guy over 6’6 who is athletic………ie has speed in both hands and legs, can punch and can punch for 12 rounds. Has the basics down packed especially the jab/maximizing use of reach and a reasonable chin and you will see the next future champ. Oh yes, and he needs to get past a few real tests unlike wilder. Maybe Anthony Joshua or Ivan Dychko in a few years.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:12 am 


rod

Back to reality………….. Lennox is just way too old. No one else out there can beat wlad. He may be boring but he is still very effective. I have been staying it for years. The man who will beat wlad will not be a short fat ass or a feather fisted blown up cruiser. It will be a good tall man. Not like wach who has the movement of a snail, someone like wilder, fury or the pre exposed price. That is exactly why both brothers avoid tall heavies. Price is no longer a contender. Wilder is yet to face real test and fury well he is nearly ready…….nearly.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:06 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Larry Holmes at age 52 defeated the King of Four Rounders Erik “Butterbean” Esch by out-boxing him and Holmes had not been in the ring for over 2 years and so far away from his prime days possible and still won. George Foreman, 48 was still the champ when he lost to Shannon Briggs (One of the BIGGEST ROBBERY in pro history :-( ). Lennox lewis could pull it off if he could get in top shape but then again, it would be very difficult and not worth it.

Posted October 10, 2013 11:02 am 


Anonymous

why not, after all the rest of them today are all bums.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:51 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

I agree here. Of course Lennox Lewis is an All-Time-Great and top 10 greatest world heavyweight champion of all times as well BUT he is not the last Undisputed world heavyweight champion – that is the champ right now people, Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir has been the champ sence 2006 and have conqerd all recognised world title belts there is (Ring title, WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO world title belts and have defended his crown 14 times in a row – HOW CAN HE NOT BE THE UNDISPUTED? Well after him I belive there will never again come forward a heavyweight fighter great enough to become the next unified & undisputed heavyweight world champion. Also I would like to mention about Lennox Lewis, age 48 that if he trained hard and propertly and preperd himself well for a fight, I belive he can defeat numerous of heavyweight contenders out there even at his age BUT not against Wladimir Klitschko, he is in his prime now and will continue to be the champ until he is 40+.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:48 am 


Hidalgo

Nobody wants to see Lewis come back for a $100 million. He’s done.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:42 am 


murderman

Isnt lennox pushing 50 now? Lennox please dont do it! These youngbloods will kill your old ass! Lol

Posted October 10, 2013 10:36 am 


Edgar Guevara

But no hugging and kissing, we want fighting. Lennox as well as Vitali and Wladimir are good at that. $100m is a lot for that. Lennox will need a warm up with Haye, Chisora, Harrison.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:28 am 


KievBxing2NY

Damn forgat Lewis mom told him not to fight V. Klitchko again cause he could get hiss ass kicked in rematch

Posted October 10, 2013 10:28 am 


Igor Sergeyivich Kholakovkhohskyov

Lennox didn’t want to rematch Vitali, waited months until WBC mandated a challenge. Lennox retired, his choice. Vitali became champ, end of story.

Posted October 10, 2013 10:23 am 


K2 Fan

Who wants to pay 100 million to see a chicken ” fight ” ?

Posted October 10, 2013 10:18 am 


DMX

Lennox is the last of the Great Champions

All up the 90′s was a brilliant Heavyweight decade

Posted October 10, 2013 10:00 am 


irishny

Ah yes,the classic “Vitali retired Lewis by having his face smashed in” logic

Posted October 10, 2013 9:59 am 


Igor Sergeyivich Kholakovkhohskyov

Actually, lineal champ is Vitali who retired Lennox. He won’t fight his brother.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:59 am 


wes

if the russian mob offer lewis 100 million to fight wladimir he’ll take it. what does he have to lose if wladimir beat him. it will be said he lose because he was an old man and out of the ring for ten years. and if he win he has so much to gain that he beat the #1 man today. his stock will go up even higher.100 million don’t mean that much to the russians. and this fight will be a big event. every boxing fan will be tune in.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:55 am 


Igor Sergeyivich Kholakovkhohskyov

Haye was never undisputed Cruiserweight champ and only won bogus WBA heavy belt fit for holding his pants up!

Posted October 10, 2013 9:54 am 


* BLURRED LINES *

Now that Steward is dead, they all think they could beat Wladimir. BS

Posted October 10, 2013 9:53 am 


Igor Sergeyivich Kholakovkhohskyov

Slater is stupid. Rocky Marciano retired. Patterson and Moore fight for vacant belt anyway. Is that the line of succession? Lewis was champ, didn’t want rematch with Vitali, so retired. Vitali retired him the first time and became THE man. Wlad THE man now.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:51 am 


* BLURRED LINES *

Coming back for what ???? Running away from Vitali again ????

Posted October 10, 2013 9:50 am 


nameless

demon – wlad was booed out of moscow for the man love show

Posted October 10, 2013 9:49 am 


wes

than why did everybody said haye was undisputed cuiserweight champion when he didn’t have the ibf belt. but wladimir isn’t undisputed heavyweight champ because he didn’t have the wbc belt.kind of a double standard.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:47 am 


wes

slater why are you saying i posted to fast when i only posted once.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:45 am 


Fan

Lewis went out like a punk so don’t talk trash now. You will always be remembered for hiding in retirement. Vitali put you there !

Posted October 10, 2013 9:44 am 


Demon

Lewis finished his career been booed out of the ring. He will have to live with that for the rest of his life.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:39 am 


Jake

That’s why Lewis is demanding so much, he knows he’ll never have to live up to his word…again. There is still a haze over the way he went out that he can’t let go of. He’s still embarrassed by it.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:34 am 


rod

Lenny is just trying to bring back some credit and attention to the sport after the most boring title defense between wlad and Povetkin. He is just playing with the media and is simply too old and out of shape to spank wlad. 15 years ago would have been different.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:33 am 


Jake

Mentally feeble Vitali? Both brothers are very intelligent.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:32 am 


boxing barlow

Is never gonna happen as there is not enough money in it. If you pay Lennox $100 mil. Then you gotta pay one of the brothers their waye. Then all the adertising stadium cost etc. etc. There’s no way they would get a big enough income from this fight to generate the cash needed to make a profit.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:30 am 


Demon

Lewis is a good lad. But stay retired fella, Vitali retired you and he is still there so stay away

Posted October 10, 2013 9:28 am 


JT154lbsChamp

Lewis hates the KBros. I think its because the Tyson win was supposed to turn him into an an all time great. (atleast thats what they thought) After winning all the belts and beating Holy and Tyson Lewis probabbly figured be could cashout and take a few legacy touch ups. Then Vitali gave him a tough fight and he retired with fans having a bad last memory of him. So i believe that he holds a grudge after a seemingly mentally feeble Vitali gave him all he could handle and made him look bad to many fans.

Posted October 10, 2013 9:08 am 


Brit Box

He has been genuinely offered £35 million by the promoters, he said double it and I will make a comeback.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:58 am 


wearerofallthebelts

“Hes not a captivating figure like Tyson or Tua.”… LOL….TUA?

Posted October 10, 2013 8:56 am 


Hit hold repeat…

I think he was just joking guys

Posted October 10, 2013 8:46 am 


Anonymous

Any fighter would come out of retirement for 100 mil, but who would pay Lennox that. Hes not a captivating figure like Tyson or Tua.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:46 am 


Rizzo.

One hundred Million .. ??? When is enough for these Rats.. I wouldn’t pay a hundred brass washers.
GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:40 am 


Matador

So he must have the WBC strap to be “undisputed?” Holding the WBA/IBF/WBO/IBO and Ring titles doesn’t matter?

Or must he hold the WBC/WBA, IBF, IBO and Ring titles while exclusing the WBO? That’s the most Lewis held in his prime.

Let’s not nit-pick. I say undisputed because disputing him is damn hard.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:32 am 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

Lennox Lewis is 48 years old and he has not fought in over a decade. I believe he must never return to the ring, he was great, but it is over now.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:21 am 


nameless

Matador – Wlad doesnt have the WBC strap. Not that its worth what it once was but thats why.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:12 am 


LOL

Lennox, noone cares of your return… Vitaly sent youm into retirement, and youll never come back as long as his ass is still fighting…

Posted October 10, 2013 8:11 am 


The desert grounds

$100 million for a return of a old worn out heavy ? ya right dream on Lennox

Posted October 10, 2013 8:10 am 


TJ

I ALSO READ LENNOX LEWIS is looking to do a sort-of X- FACTOR for boxing. He is trying to find the NEXT heavyweight Hope and has asked all those fighters who think they have the heart, desire, skills and size to be the next big, dominant heavyweight to get a hold of him and send in their video footage of them and he will assess them and then whittle down the ones he thinks have any hope of making the grade.

LENNOX has gyms in Jamaica, the US and looking to open one in London. He says, “there are only a few men with the knowledge and ability who can make/ take the next great heavyweight to the next level, ” and he is one of them.

If he comes back he is targeting WLADIMIR, but will big Brother, VITALI step in looking to settle their unfinished business?

LENNOX also said that WLADIMIR had all the skills but, lacked something inside to go out and finish his opponents in style.

What do you guys think. Is LENNOX returning a good thing or a bad thing for boxing.
Does he really have anything in his locker after a decade to trouble a TYSON FURY, let alone a KLITSCHKO?

Posted October 10, 2013 8:09 am 


Matador

Not sure I get this “last undisputed” heavyweight king thing.

How is Wlad Klitschko NOT the undisputed champ? He has the Ring belt and beat everyone that came his way for the better part of a decade. Seems like a petty jab at the K-Brothers.

Posted October 10, 2013 8:01 am 



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