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Happyboy

100% correct

Posted October 16, 2013 1:01 am 


TARK

Pacquiao didn’t win titles in 8 weight divisions… That fight with Cheato doesn’t count for “winning” any title.

The last time Cheato Rito fought at 154 before that he was beaten by 3rd rater Dan Santos.. That was a bogus title like Ray Leonard’s “World Championships” at 168 and 175 in one night. Just because 4 stoolies get together and manufacture a title doesn’t make it a title.

Posted October 15, 2013 12:44 pm 


Hidalgo

Yellowchump, other than the first link you posted, the rest prove nothing, and/or lead nowhere.

Posted October 15, 2013 10:48 am 


Decision

Following Mayweathers history, he would fight a scared Pacman, when he is done with his current contractual obligations. Mayweather is a worldclass boxer and business man.

What boxing lovers want, was for Pacman vs Mayweather to take place, years ago, when noone could touch Manny.

Now, the fight is irrelevant.

Sure Manny is still a great fighter, but lets be honest, he is not at his legendary best, anymore, I can’t see him regain that form.

Posted October 15, 2013 5:06 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, tell Pacquiao to leave Top Rank and then open your discussion till then it’s just indicative of your utter reverence for Floyd that he can end the promotional stalemate that exists between TopRank, GBP and himself…Arums saying he won’t even allow for a rematch in his own stable, he obviously wanted Marquez to win so he and PAC would be set for another big fight… Bradley does not pull the #’s that Marquez does so don’t be surprised if PAC vs Marquez 5 is made…Reality is that PAC man is NIT widely seen as a real threat to Mayweather any longer, it’s not 2010, folks bought Canelo at JR MW and he proved easy work…Pacquiao who struggles with an OLD JMM and was ultimately flattened is not given much chance… Let him leave TR and come take his beating, Pacs TOO FLAWED for FMJ

Posted October 15, 2013 3:26 am 


Minty Mincer

Put a challenge in front of Floyd he doesn`t say “Fantastic a chance to prove my greatness and cement my legacy”

He says….”How can I get out of this? How much will I get paid? Can I make more fighting someone easier? Is there something I can ask for to make this fight harder for the opposition?”

It is what it is.

He’s a great technician. He is a great athlete. He is a great businessman. He is a great big cad.

But he ain`t no warrior.

That’s cool – it doesn`t have to matter, but it does just cut out a chunk of the fanbase.

Posted October 14, 2013 8:02 pm 


Hidalgo

“Little Floyd is without doubt scared to fight Pacquiao. 50 Cent said the same thing. It’s a FACT.”

moonshineman, Fifty Cent b*tch is just upset that Mayweather broke up with him. So he’s being vindictive.

Posted October 14, 2013 6:38 pm 


moonshineman

I don’t care if Pac and Little Floyd ever fight. I’m just saying Little Floyd is without doubt scared to fight Pacquiao. 50 Cent said the same thing. It’s a FACT.

Posted October 14, 2013 5:25 pm 


Rem

Tark smh by winning 10 tittles 4 lineal, fighter of the decade, fighter of the year 3xs etc. Pac trandcends all of that nonsense stop acting like you don’t know lol.

Posted October 14, 2013 5:08 pm 


TARK

Pac is on a 2-fight losing streak… How do you get a Floyd fight like that???

Posted October 14, 2013 4:53 pm 


moonshineman

@SREDMOND

Then why doesn’t Little Floyd fight him. Listen to yourself. You are saying how easy it would be for Little Floyd to beat Pacquiao, and then you have Little Floyd running like a little girl from Pacquiao for 4 years.

You are a smart guy. Look at the facts.

I think Little Floyd has an excellent chance to beat Pacquiao, BUT he won’t fight him. Sorry, I just can’t respect Little Floyd. I think he’s a great fighter, but he’s chicken chit, pure and simple.

Posted October 14, 2013 4:22 pm 


Rem

Happyboy i agree that boxers have always beaten brawlers and yes Bradley is taylormade for Floyd (orthodox boxer, jab not stiff enough, wide puncher etc.). Imo what separates Pac from all other brawlers in history is footspeed and hard straight punches. Honestly Floyds lucky Pac has a weak jab and all of boxing is really because if he had a jab everyone around his weight would be brutalized. Anyway like I’ve said before there has never been a brawler like Pac because of his hand and footspeed boxers have always enjoyed a speed advantage against brawlers but Pac is a new breed of brawler.

Posted October 14, 2013 3:32 pm 


Happyboy

Rem – I don’t know how long you’ve been watching boxing but as it has been proven many times than not a boxer who can adapt, change stratergies and is versatile usually beats one way horses ( boxers vs brawlers) eg : SRL vs Duran, Hearns and Hagler. Chavez vs Whitaker, RJJ vs JT, Ali vs Foreman, Liston, Petterson, Frazier. Please note : more times than not…..Floyd would spank Bradley & Pac.

Posted October 14, 2013 2:46 pm 


Adrian

SREDMOND

Pacquiaos a LITTLE
man who is gonna be on the end of Floyd’s right hand if they ever fought.. Fact is the blueprint for defeating Pacquaio has been demonstrated…
He’s a great offensive fighter but he’s NOT in Mayweathers league technically or he would not absorb so much punishment and certainly not have been starched his las bout…In order to give him a chance to look good he’s being put in with
A 140 pound punching bag coming off a loss… Pacquiao is not stopping guys at 147, and there is NO WAY he is gonna outbox Floyd in the center of the ring…
His shots will get rolled, caught and countered like everyone else’s by the great FMJ…

Posted October 14, 2013 8:43 am

You woulda shoulda mean squat!! We need to see mayweather actualy fight PAC in order to know what will happen otherwise PAC could lose 10 more times but every time mayweather would be mentioned by boxing fans they will always mention PAC the one that mayweather avoided…
If PAC vs mayweather don’t happen everything you claim about how mayweather would beat PAC it’s only your wishful thinking ….

Posted October 14, 2013 2:20 pm 


Rem

Happyboy as I stated earlier Floyds performance against Marquez is now a moot point since TB clearly and soundly beat Marquez and Pac all but shut Bradley out while only putting forth an 80% effort. If Pac is healthy which isn’t a big if guys with chins like Pac can absorb kos like that and come back he’s done it before. Its not a Roy Jones who probably never had a chin but no one could hit him clean enough in his prime. If Floyd can fight gimmies like Ortiz and Guerrero Pac is due for a gimmie after fighting all of the very best wws of the last decade.

Posted October 14, 2013 1:16 pm 


TARK

This pundit says.., “The way Lomachenko looked; I don’t think he would even beat Orlando Salido. That would be a very tough fight for him.” LMFAO…

That’s an absurd comment. Salido gets hit with everything and Lomachenko is one of the greatest boxers of all time.

Right now, Lomachenko would have no problems at all with Salido.. He would give Salido a terrific beating and knock him out in a few rounds.. The only featherweights who would give Lomachenko fits are Nonito Donaire and Mikey Garcia.. But Garcia is no longer a featherweight. He’s moving to 130.

Lomachenko shouldn’t fight Rigondeaux in the 4th or 5th pro fight. He needs to acclimate himself to the 12 round distance and embed the pro game into his instincts. Sparring 12 rounds with 4 different boxers doesn’t give you the feel you need to face a man like Rigondeaux—who has completely acclimated himself to the pro game with his domination of Donaire.

If Lomachenko is patient and gets himself ready—Lomachenko-Rigondeaux will be the treat of a lifetime. I can see why Lomachenko is so overanxious to make it happen … They’re possibly the 2 most competitive boxers ever.

Posted October 14, 2013 1:06 pm 


Happyboy

Decision – lmao, excuses coming out already, damn dude atleast you could wait until Bob croaks or build a stadium before getting started.

Posted October 14, 2013 12:58 pm 


Rem

Happyboy imo the Pac TB fight showed movement will not help Floyd against Pac the only thing TB did well in that fight was survive. Don’t get me wrong TB is no Floyd but he brings the same level of athleticism. Im a huge TB fan and still high off his performance Sat. but i honestly hope he stays away from Pac he can’t get away from him and can’t box with him he should take that gift decision take his huge win over Marquez and move on.

Posted October 14, 2013 12:54 pm 


Happyboy

Rem – Floyd holds several belts in two divisions while Pac is still trying to piece together whatever is left of his brain against yet another taylormade inhouse gimmick in Bam Bam Rios whose coming off a loss to Alvarado and Abril. You think about that for a second and please note while it took 4 fights to see whose the better between him and Marquez, it took Floyd a 2yr lay off to put on a 12-0 boxing clinic to shut Marquez up,

Posted October 14, 2013 12:52 pm 


Decision

The Pacman vs Mayweather debate, is a question of time, right.

Pacman, in his prime would beat Mayweather, this is why the fight didn’t happen.

2013 Pacman would probably not beat Mayweather, at this point.

Mayweather has aged better.

By the way, Pacman in his prime had great defence, gloves up with lightning speed, making his opponents miss, look at the Bradley fight.

I don’t think Pacman can regain the legendary level again, sadly.

Posted October 14, 2013 12:46 pm 


BUCKET

CRUZ SAYS HE STILL LIKES SALIDO. HE SAID HE BEND OVER BACK WARDS FOR HIM

Posted October 14, 2013 12:44 pm 


Rem

T no need to apologize about gramar with me my writing sucks lol. Anyway i responded the way i did because of Sreds condescending dismissal of the threat Pac is to Floyd but i always acknowledge the problems Pac will have with Floyd. And now with Bradleys performance against Marquez compared to Pacs performance against Bradley im all hyped up again lol. Im just confident it will be much harder for Floyd than people assume.

Posted October 14, 2013 12:40 pm 


moonshineman

Look at Marquez’s hair. Bradley really messed it up.

Posted October 14, 2013 12:25 pm 


Happyboy

Decision – They say styles makes fights in boxing and I believe Floyd would beat Manny anyday of the week. Manny was consitantly matched with similiar boxers who came onto him with little defense and little lateral movement, angles etc and he just blew them away, which is one of the things Bradley did well against Pac, Morales also boxed his ears off in his first fight vs Pac unlike most who tried to take him out. Floyd on the other hand has faced different styles and is famous for his ability to change stratergy as deem fit.

Posted October 14, 2013 11:59 am 


Anonymous

Agree with ?. Hearns was an awesome fighter who could box and crack…

Posted October 14, 2013 11:40 am 


T-Mellow

REM you bring up some interesting points. However, just because southpaws land at a greater connect rate doesn’t mean that they are accurate against him. If you fail a test with a 30% and I come back and fail the same test with a 40%, i’ve accomplished only getting a better grade while still miserably failing. The one things you guys have left out is that Floyd is not longer being trained by Uncle Roger. SO, when you bring up Cotto and even Oscar, these are slightly different versions of Mayweather. This Mayweather does not linger on the ropes. Also, I’ve heard all i need to hear about how fast Pacman, Mosley, Judah, and Canelo is. When they step into the ring with Mayweather the difference because more apparent. They all walk away saying he’s quicker than they thought or I just couldn’t catch up to him. It’s because he Mayweathers quickness is based on foot and head movement. Is Mayweather the greatest of all time like he would suggest? HELL NO, but he’s still undefeated for a reason. Pacman is not undefeated for a reason. Pacman has been beaten based on costly mistakes or failures to adhere to corner instructions for adjustments. Mayweather is all ears in his corner and is never rattled. He is a boxer in the ring and a student in the corner.

Posted October 14, 2013 11:16 am 


Rem

Floyd is actually susceptible to counters from southpaws as well. Zab was brilliantly countering Floyd beating him at his own game forcing Floyd to stalk since he was badly losing the boxing match and Guerrero also hit Floyd with counters to the body since he didn’t have the speed and timing to land them upstairs. Pac is fast enough with superb timing.

Posted October 14, 2013 10:52 am 


Rem

T thank you for bringing one of Floyds most used maneuvers when he rolls his left shoulder setting his body up to fire the right counter because that’s one of his maneuvers he won’t have in his arsenal in his fight with Pac due to Pac being a southpaw. That’s one of the instinctual things he’s developed that is only useful against an orthodox fighter. Whether any southpaw has landed over 25% of their shots i don’t know but i do know that they do far better with their powershots than orthodox fighters. And the 2 orthodox fighters who were lefties (Oscar and Cotto) had sucsess with their left jabs Cotto flushing Floyds nose with it. Floyd does not avoid the lefthand as well as he avoids the right. No gameplan needed for Pac to break Floyds nose just Pacs lazer precise power left hand and Floyds proven inability to avoid it as well as he does the right hand.

Posted October 14, 2013 10:29 am 


Tomato Can Stan

T-Mellow – Pac also hits his opponents with ease. He is very fast and hits at awkward angles. You also did not mention his improved head movement. You don’t beat the likes of Cotto, Mosley, Hatton and de la Hoya by being an “easy” hit, and I thought Pac dispatched these opponents in more devastating fashion than Mayweather did.

Posted October 14, 2013 10:12 am 


T-Mellow

REM yes i’ve seen Floyd against every south paw. I’ve actually seen most of both of their fights. Now to interest me and most progressive boxing die hards……can you please name one south paw that’s landed over 25% of their punches altogether on Floyd? Please flatter us with the game plan of how Pacman is guaranteed to break Floyd’s nose? What keeps Pacman from walking into that same right hand that JMM gave him? That so happens to be Floyd’s best punch and he throws it twice as quick and highly disquised through effected shoulder rolls and punch set ups. REM please give us the game plan of how Pacman beats Floyd.

Posted October 14, 2013 10:01 am 


Rem

Smh odviously Floyd believes it to since he passed up a 100 mil. Yes Floyd will land but what happens after Pac breaks Floyds nose with a straight left which is guaranteed to happen. Come out of the bubble and watch almost every southpaw Floyd fought land hard shots now just imagine Pac. Y’all runnin out of theories now that my man TB burst that silly theory about how Floyd beat Marquez so Pac will be easy.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:46 am 


T-Mellow

A fighter that moves his feet and hands simultaneously cannot convert power behind his shots. Manny has a simple habit of running consecutive 1/2′s which will get him countered. His defense is his offense which and his aggression will make his an easier target. Marquez hit Pacman with ease. Manny’s face can be found with ease. Now you tell me the most accurate puncher in the history of the sport cannot exploit that commonly known fact? You guys are living in the dreamland of hating floyd and hoping that he loses. I can understand that, but at least be realistic. This debate about Pacman beating up Floyd is so over. No trainer i’ve listened to, no expert commentator, nor educated boxing fan thinks Pacman can beat Floyd now or ever.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:28 am 


Rem

Pac doesn’t have to set to punch he moves his hands and feet together as well as anyone that’s why he won’t have any problem hitting Floyd another reason the fight hasn’t happened.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:19 am 


T-Mellow

REM that statement was completely 3rd grade’ish. You’re the only human left who actually believes that.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:18 am 


Rem

Smh Floyds not rolling anything Pac will slip that sharpshooting left right in between the right guard and left shoulder whenever Floyds in range. No one can stop Pacs left and Floyd is actually taylormade for it since his instincts have been develope to slip the righthand. Floyd may have the technical advantage but Pac has the physical advantages hits much harder is more durable and easily matches Floyds speed. Lateral movement won’t help Floyd since Pac has ridiculous footspeed. Pac has the endurance to relentlessly pressure coming at Floyd in southpaw angles neutralizing the shoulder roll he’s simply the perfect fighter to end Floyd. Pac doesn’t have to ko Floyd he can win the dogfight Floyd will be forced into if Floyd avoids the dogfight he’ll lose from being hits with flush lefts and workrate.

Posted October 14, 2013 9:11 am 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos a LITTLE
man who is gonna be on the end of Floyd’s right hand if they ever fought.. Fact is the blueprint for defeating Pacquaio has been demonstrated…
He’s a great offensive fighter but he’s NOT in Mayweathers league technically or he would not absorb so much punishment and certainly not have been starched his las bout…In order to give him a chance to look good he’s being put in with
A 140 pound punching bag coming off a loss… Pacquiao is not stopping guys at 147, and there is NO WAY he is gonna outbox Floyd in the center of the ring…
His shots will get rolled, caught and countered like everyone else’s by the great FMJ…

Posted October 14, 2013 8:43 am 


?

TARK writes
What people remember about Tommy Hearns is that he came in super skinny versus Ray Leonard, ran out of gas, and got battered to a stoppage… when he got hammered by Hagler… and when he got bombed by Barkley.

Tark people also remember how he destroyed the indominitable Cuevas, Duran and smashed Shuler and had the slugfests with Roldan and Andries at the higher weights and was robbed by Sugar Ray Leonard trying to unify at SMW.

Tark, you really are a cherry picker extraordinaire when it comes to your postings.

Only the other day I came across an interview in which Lennox Lewis was asked who he considered as great fighters and without hesitation his first names were Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali and Tommy Hearns.

In most polls experts, boxers who really do understand the game will place Tommy high up in their lists. He was not a schmuck and only lost to Leonard, Hagler and Barkely in his first 40 odd bouts.

You have had an agenda against Hearns for whatever perverted reason since you came on here, whereas you **** kiss certain other lesser boxers as ATG when they haven’t done anything.

You really need to be consistent in your postings as others have said, you come off as a fraud and bitter too.

Posted October 14, 2013 7:59 am 


Decision

Lets not forget that Manny had Marquez seriously hurt, and that he was coming back in that fight.

At his best, Pacman was a league above any version of Mayweather, thats for sure.

I happen to think that the Mayweather of right now, is the best version, and right now he is heads and shoulders above anybody else, which is impressive considering his age, and jail(break).

It is a matter of time, and corruption, within boxing. I don’t trust Arum, for one second.

Posted October 14, 2013 7:34 am 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos NOT a threat to anything related to Floyd, Mayweathers a Champ in 2 weight classes while Pacquiaos trying to see if he can get past Brandon Rios coming off a loss..Further it looks bad that Tim Bradley and Mayweather handled Marquez without incident yet Manny Pacquiao was murdered in the 6th round by JMM… Fact is that Pacquiao is a league below Mayweather, he booked 3 KO losses in his career to guys Floyd would destroy (1 proven)… Beating Rios coming off a loss is a good step in rehabbing Pacs image but he’s never gonna enjoy the aura of invincibility he had, and certainly not the one that Mayweather who
Is 2 years older still does…

Posted October 14, 2013 5:46 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, Marquez got a KO over Pacquiao because he sat down on that right hand and punched him dead in the face… How is “he got careless” a defense when boxers especially counter punchers thrive on exploiting mistakes… Childish statements like that really just shown you cannot accept the COLD truth of Manny laid on the canvas not moving after Marquez iced him… NO ONE is forgetting that moment, I’m a highest fan or Marquez and Pacquiao that said JMM easily owns the most memorable victory… I know your are dense, emotional and VERY effeminate (you always have been) but this is a brief summary of REALITY…”He got careless” that’s what fighters do welcome to the sport of boxing idiot…

Posted October 14, 2013 5:40 am 


Decision

Marquez could only win against Bradley by KO, or intimidating punches, looking at how judges these days, favor the Mayweather, Ward and Bradley style, which is probably the healthy way.

I still think that considering his age, Marquez did a fantastic job, Marquez had Bradley in trouble, numerous times,he is still really fast.

To me Mayweather is heads and shoulders above any other fighter, pound for pound, until Pacman returns, to his best days, if this happens at all.

How commentators could call the Marquez vs Bradley fight dull, is beyond me. Great fight, between two worldclass boxers.

Posted October 14, 2013 5:18 am 


Dibi Styles

That half macho, half bald headed, past due on the expired date PEDquez needs to hang them up.

Posted October 14, 2013 4:12 am 


Dibi Styles

Dang Mork you you rip Tark’s behind up ??? hahaaa Lol

Posted October 14, 2013 4:11 am 


MJames

Bradley deserves a shot at Floyd. Please don’t let chump Amir Khan get a shot. He does not deserve it and is NO match for Floyd. There would be no point watching Khan v Mayweather. Here’s how the commentary would go: “Khan throws a flurry, and another and another … but he’s only hitting Floyd’s gloves and arms … another flurry, more flurries, so fast, lots of flurries, but they’re all hitting Floyd’s arms and gloves … Floyd counters with a straight right .. Khan is down … he staggers to his feet too quickly, as usual, and does his famous funky chicken dance across the ring, his legs are rubber, his eyes are glazed, it wasn’t a big punch but hey it’s Khan’s chin remember … the referee does the count and allows the action to continue … Khan runs, holds, spoils, pushes, tries the elbow, the head, everything to stay upright, but his funky chicken legs are still with him … Floyd clips him … it’s Bambi on ice again and this time Khan goes down and is out for the count … the fight lasted two rounds … Khan pockets $6m and announces his retirement, laughing his head off that he managed to get this unworthy shot at Mayweather in the first place ….” Adios.

Posted October 14, 2013 3:55 am 


piechucker

mork ahahahahaaa

Posted October 14, 2013 3:01 am 


Happyboy

A question for all you boxing gurus…..is a punch in boxing scored on impact or the effect it has on impact?

Posted October 14, 2013 2:36 am 


Happyboy

SRed – what is an intelligent debate when we watch a sport that has no tangible rule on how to score a fight. Till today I have yet to hear a fight that goes toma decision and all 3 judges have the same score.

Posted October 14, 2013 2:24 am 


Happyboy

Tark is really a strange character. Tommy was my favourite too yet I respect SRL, Hagler & Duran. What attracted me to Tommy was his ” Last man standing ” attitude, balls to walls. He had flaws but damn you better check yours too.I loved me some Hitman.

Posted October 14, 2013 2:21 am 


Adrian

Sredmond – your personal attacks shows what kind off a person you are and what kind of education you had at home if you had one … Anyway Marquez got a ko because of PAC’s carelessness trying to finish Marquez off wich he was close of doing it however as much as you seek so much to find anything bad about PAC fact of no fact just to try and weaken PAC carrier because he tarnished your Hero’s legacy , you can’t because PAC has more wins against Marquez and if you think Marquez is better fighter then paqiao now just because he won by a ko it shows how biased and hateful you are toward PAC and is all because he is a threat to your Hero’s legacy mayweather …. To bad for you PAC is still around :)

Posted October 14, 2013 2:14 am 


SREDMOND

NOPE Adrian your comparisons are weak just like your manhood… Pacquiao and Marquez fought 3 unusually close fights that went the distance… Then Marqueez changed the WHOLE dynamic and knocked him unconcious, facedown and in need of medical attention…That is by far the most potent image and leaves Marquez with the only win of their series that is NOT up for intelligent debate… I will be expecting a YouTube clip of you shooting yourself after this.(preferably in the head) .LMAO!

Posted October 14, 2013 1:25 am 


boxing plus

Damn Tark ,Mork wants you bad. Bradley looked good last nite and deserves a shot a Mayweather.

Posted October 14, 2013 1:01 am 


Sig Keppen

I fought TARK and KO’ed that b.u.m in under three rounds.
Walked through him, peppered him with shots then destroyed his liver with a left hook.

The guy cried on his stool like a little girl, and quit boxing there and then.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:58 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond “SREDMOND

No matter how guys try to spin Bradley’s win or Marquez record against PAC Man the fact remains that Juan Manuel Marquez had a MORE emphatic victory than all the rest combined and history is NOT gonna forget that… The image of Pacquiao facedown is right there with Duran getting blasted by Thomas HitMan Hearns…JMM certainly can walk away from his encounters with Pacquiao feeling good about his tooth and nails battles and the final dagger he stuck in Mannys chest… A win like that is NOT pedestrian and easily trumps controversial points wins”

Posted October 13, 2013 4:01 pm

We could also say the same about mcall ko over Lewis or max schmeling first win over Louis but history tells us that fighters get judged overall my friend … Because then buy that filozofy we should assume mcall was better then Lewis because his win over Lewis was a more impressive one ….

Posted October 13, 2013 11:43 pm 


Adrian

Sredmond”SREDMOND

Anyone saying that Bradley “easily beat Pacquiao” needs to shoot themselves, that bout will go down as one of the WORST robberies of a Top Fighter… There is a strong chance PAC will face Bradley assuming he can get by Rios or he could face Marquez for the bigger $$$… Whatever the case Bradley was not in command of Pacquaio…”

Nice one a you are correct !

Posted October 13, 2013 11:20 pm 


Adrian

Te tumbo–”te tumbo

a 40-year-old Marquez was fighting two weight-classes above his truly competitive weight v. a prime and undefeated champion. moreover, he experienced no damage to anything more than his ego and pride. this bout also proved that KOing a fellow feather at 144ish isn’t the same as defeating a full-fledged welter. no matter how improved his physique, it was developed for the sole purpose of targeting Pacquiao*. Mission Accomplished! I hope that Marquez either retires or fights no more than two more times at 135lbs or 140lbs and NOT v. Broner. he’s too old and small for that. on the other hand, Marquez’s ATG ring-legacy is already sealed. everything the 40-year-old does from here on out is pure gravy . . . or piss . . . depending on how it turns out.”

So if Marquez fights PAC and lose you want count that from here on right??

God…..

Posted October 13, 2013 11:10 pm 


Ray Ray

Floyd vs Manny in China? Ha ha ha good 1. F,-king dreaming. Whens Pedquio vs Rios?

Posted October 13, 2013 10:06 pm 


Olde English Ale

being from detoilet, hearns is also my favorite.

Posted October 13, 2013 10:00 pm 


B Red

Floyd is not going to China to fight Pac, hahahahahaha

Posted October 13, 2013 7:51 pm 


Turb0-H@mster

You are strange TARK.

People remember all kinds of things about Hearns – he`s one of the most loved boxers around. He`s my favourite fighter, flaws and all, and if you polled everyone on ESB I`d imagine the majority would have him in their top 10 favourites, and would cite his action packed style,switching Duran off, the Hagler war, and fighting all the way from WW to CW as the reasons.

If all people remembered of him was being skinny and getting knocked out he wouldn`t be considered such a legend.

I don`t know why you dislike him so much, but it affects your judgement and makes you say silly things.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:47 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao got KO’d 3 times with one shot… But 2 of those were years before anyone heard of him… His beating of De La Hoya and smashing KO of Hatton are what fans remember most.

That’s why, if he manages to beat Rios, a Pac-May fight in China may still break all records for revenues.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:18 pm 


TARK

What people remember about Tommy Hearns is that he came in super skinny versus Ray Leonard, ran out of gas, and got battered to a stoppage… when he got hammered by Hagler… and when he got bombed by Barkley.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:08 pm 


logic

Pubic Friend, there was no noodle-legs, see the replay – just getting caught at square angle.

Posted October 13, 2013 6:52 pm 


BOOTLIP

Congrats to Lomachenko! Future world champ! Its been a great year for white boxers!

Posted October 13, 2013 6:42 pm 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

Anonymous BRUCE!WARE ARE YOU MY FRIEND!I NEED TO TELL YOU JOE BUGNERS CALLED OUT DEONTURD WILDER!WHATS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS MY FRIEND!!

Posted October 13, 2013 6:38 pm 


logic

That would be insane if Lomachenko fights Salido after only 3 pro fights.

I thought it was sad when Cruz went down from that heavy Salido shot. He is really a brave guy when you see so much hateful comments about him, but he should have worked more on his head movement than his fashion sense!

Posted October 13, 2013 6:23 pm 


logic

In the post-fight press conference, Bradley said Marquez dazed him twice. He also said Marquez fought just as strong as he expected. So this was actually a very good fight between two very good boxers – age was not a factor.

What was a factor,was how succesfully Bradley executed the Mayweather-style moving in, landing shots, & moving out before the master counterpuncher could land, and rolling & slipping with the punches. Marquez WAS able to adjust to a certain extent & that made this a great technical fight for the non-morons among us to watch and learn from.

So great fight for Bradley, who deserves the respect he is finally getting, and yet another master display from the old professor Marquez, who ended the fight no more marked up than Bradley, and according to compubox (if you’re into that – I’m not), was only outhit by an average of one punch per round(15 punch difference over 12 rounds,mostly jabs).

Both these guys do not get enough respect though.

Posted October 13, 2013 6:18 pm 


big mike

Marquez will drink piss out of old pickle jars but he prefers it fresh out the pee whole. They call him el urinal back in Mehico.

Posted October 13, 2013 6:05 pm 


te tumbo

a 40-year-old Marquez was fighting two weight-classes above his truly competitive weight v. a prime and undefeated champion. moreover, he experienced no damage to anything more than his ego and pride. this bout also proved that KOing a fellow feather at 144ish isn’t the same as defeating a full-fledged welter. no matter how improved his physique, it was developed for the sole purpose of targeting Pacquiao*. Mission Accomplished! I hope that Marquez either retires or fights no more than two more times at 135lbs or 140lbs and NOT v. Broner. he’s too old and small for that. on the other hand, Marquez’s ATG ring-legacy is already sealed. everything the 40-year-old does from here on out is pure gravy . . . or piss . . . depending on how it turns out.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:52 pm 


Dessert

The Hall of Famer Timothy Bradley sure is getting his mojo going. I’m sure there will be more to come and he’ll only rise like the rising sun for many more years. The legend of Bradley continues….

Posted October 13, 2013 4:50 pm 


Vince Blanton

Juan Mariod Pedquez needs to call it quits.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:11 pm 


SREDMOND

No matter how guys try to spin Bradley’s win or Marquez record against PAC Man the fact remains that Juan Manuel Marquez had a MORE emphatic victory than all the rest combined and history is NOT gonna forget that… The image of Pacquiao facedown is right there with Duran getting blasted by Thomas HitMan Hearns…JMM certainly can walk away from his encounters with Pacquiao feeling good about his tooth and nails battles and the final dagger he stuck in Mannys chest… A win like that is NOT pedestrian and easily trumps controversial points wins

Posted October 13, 2013 4:01 pm 


B Red

Public Enemy, hahahahaha

Posted October 13, 2013 3:37 pm 


Havoc

Pacman and Marquez fought 4 times. The record shows Pacman won twice and have a draw and lose 1 so technically Marquez just won one time with the lucky punch if not he will die in the ring from Pacman. I don’t blame Marquez for not fighting Pacman again and run away with an illusion that he is better than Pacman.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:05 pm 


boxing barlow

The interesting thing in this fight is people’s attitudes. People were championing Marquez after the pacman fight as finally putting to bed the issue of who was the better fighter by answering those questions once and for all with the KO. They were talking about Marquez like he had took pacmans place in the sport. However looking back at this fight with Bradley reminded me of how pre the KO in the pacman fight Manny was really doing a number on Marquez. Marquez didn’t even look the fighter he was in their previous b9uts and it looked like manny was really going to win the fight convincingly. Marquez looked on the slide until that ko. Everyone thought Marquez would have Bradley number too but ghe Bradley team weere smart enough to realise that they had to keep away from that shot that cost Manny so dearly.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:59 pm 


EZ E

WILLIE PEP Yeah, I get your point and do agree. Ya know, I believe that they’ll be more open confessions in the game. All it takes is ONE to “crack the ice” and then others will follow suit. It’s happened in other sports. Yes, boxing is a ‘macho’ sport but… should anything surprise us these days?? Peace!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:48 pm 


EZ E

TUMBO Q-VO!! You would WHAT to Lucia Rijker?? LOL!!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:36 pm 


SREDMOND

I love how Guys overuse Compubox to sell their cases.. At best it’s an activity measure and NO ONE Even knows who is seeing what? In Essensce Compubox is another form of judging and this highly faillable….If some of you guys are so wedded to this barometer why not lobby for bouts to be scored purely off who did more of what, efficiency etc??? Cause that simply would give a bunch of bizarre decisions as well and create argument with the tool… Reality is judging a contest is both art and science, last night Marquez lost he was missing like crazy and Bradley simply imposed his fight… He did NOT brutally beat JMM down but he did what he wanted to do and nullified Marquez attack..JMM was visibly frustrated and was finally forced out of counterpunching mode when Bradley’s better legs got him in and out of range without issue…

Posted October 13, 2013 2:18 pm 


Rich

Yeah, I just bet she was panting for you to hump her Tumbo……Just as soon as you finished your job at KFC….

Posted October 13, 2013 2:17 pm 


spartacus 65

Good day gentlemen. Very good bout last night. Both men are bonafide warriors and both fought well last night. However Bradley deserved this win. His speed, activity rate and busy jab was the difference here. Marquez excels against opponents who come to him like Pacquiao. He akways had difficulties with speedy boxers. Bradley fought an intelligent fight and never allowed Marquez to get into a rhythm. Consistent rhythm. Kudos to Tim. As for Marquez his whini once again about a decision makes him appear petty. He lost and should just move on. Pacquiao lost a bad,bad decision to Bradley and showed class. No whining though he certainly had a reason to. He lost to Marquez by kayo and showed class in the ring and outside towards Marquez and the general boxing public. That’s what MEN do. Marquez can use perhaps a few tips from pacman on how to walk with a bit of dignity. All in sll entertaining biut and kudos to Tim. Cheers. Peace and strength.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:15 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

Sredmond for once you are talking sense.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:14 pm 


SREDMOND

I’m a HUGE Marquez fan and I championed his cause for this bout, but claiming he’s been robbed 6 times including Bradley is not a smart move..It is beneath him to consistently not accept the times he fell short… Marquez is an ATG in my book a guy who did ALOT absent amazing physicality… But last night he was made to look old and consistently a step behind Bradley who wisely stayed out of the wheelhouse after Privodnikov had him slurring for a couple months…Marquez should choose his next opponent wisely and then pass the torch.. Lest he go the route of fellow Mexican legend Erik Morales..

Posted October 13, 2013 2:08 pm 


te tumbo

Lomachenko’s not gonna last long in a division that includes Garcia, Rigondeaux, Mares, Donaire, Salido, Gonzalez, Ponce, etc. it’s an exceedingly TUFF time to break into feather these days.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:03 pm 


Vlad the Impaler

Congrats to Lomachenko! Future world champ!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:01 pm 


te tumbo

back in her prime, I watched Lucia Rijker fight and afterwards she took her seat right beside us and her boyfriend(?) at the Olympic in L.A. she had striking features and a very fit look. I would’ve F’kd her and gladly, which is what I said back then. she was very pleasant and very attractive.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:43 pm 


te tumbo

DECISION, solid analysis. i concur. both fighters dominated in certain categories, neither dominated overall. depending on your scoring preference, one style is going to prevail, but this bout also highlights that Marquez can only KO fellow pumped-up feathers like Pacquiao*. otherwise, even the muscular Marquez is ultimately too small to consistently deal with full-fledged welters. even relatively smaller and light-hitting ones like Bradley. although, i wouldn’t mind watching Marquez v. Mathysse @ 140lbs for a final Cinco de Mayo hurrah.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:26 pm 


Hidalgo

“Bradley beat Pacquioa whether most people want to believe it or not. Go watch the fight with the sound off”

Urone2, boxing matches do not happen without sound. Ever.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:26 pm 


It’s me, Public Ernie

“Is this the same Cruz who ended up on all fours gagging on Salido’s wood?” (LoL).. De La Freaky island just got freakier..

Posted October 13, 2013 1:18 pm 


Decision

Low volume power puncher vs high volume weak jabbing:
How to decide?

If you look at the power punches, during Marquez vs Bradley = Marquez wins handsdown …

If you look at the high volume weak jabbing = Bradley wins

If you take away Bradleys punches to the gloves, and weak jabs, Marquez wins by a wide margin.

Both fighters looked great, it was a great fight, I can accept that the two judges choose to look at high volume unprecise work.

Brdley is in fact right, in saying Mayweather, Ward and Bradley is the top 3, pound for pound, the way the judges look at boxing these days.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:16 pm 


Tomato Can Stan

” watch Marquez in my opinion beat Pacquioa in the third fight but Pacquioa got the decision” – Pacquaio outlanded Marquez in all four fights, plus he had more knock downs, and Bradley was certainly a gift decision. Its funny when you like a particular fighter, you can perceive a fight totally different through a perspective lens.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:14 pm 


urone2

Tomato Can,

Paquioa was out work and out hustled the whole fight with Bradley, everyone want and expect Pacquioa to go in there and get the decision no matter what happened in the fight. I watch Marquez in my opinion beat Pacquioa in the third fight but Pacquioa got the decision. I watched Marquez come back from 3 knock downs to put a boxing lesson on Pacquioa and they call it a draw. The second fight I’m ok with that decision it was so close and Pacquioa have the knock down I gave it to Pacquioa. Then Pacquioa gets put to sleep by Marquez and the only way Marquez could have beat him is using roids, on Marquez beat Pacquioa with a straight right hand call the sleeper. Then you go on about the experts, I like that most experts picked Marquez to win his fight with Bradley just like they had picked Pacquioa to beat Bradley. Guess what both times they were wrong.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:09 pm 


urone2

It’s a drink they give babies when they are dehydrated. Less sugar more nutrician

Posted October 13, 2013 12:56 pm 


urone2

Wearerofallthebelts
If I were a guessing man I would say pedilite, at least thats what the bottle looked like to me.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:51 pm 


Whocares

@ Ray Ray – This fight wasn’t about Manny but in some ways it was…. The biggest claim of fame for both of these fighters was to beat Pacquiao. Naturally, when they fought Pac will be brought up. The winner of this Toprank fight was expected to fight Pacquiao. So why not talk about him? On top, undoubtedly he has an offensive fight style compared to these to fighters, who are boxers/counter punchers and don’t match up well in terms of excitement…

Posted October 13, 2013 12:32 pm 


Tomato Can

Marquez is 40, he’s no spring chicken. But I attribute his looking old in the ring to Bradley’s in and out fighting. Marquez has always had trouble when his opponent choses to jab and counter. That being said, it is time for him to move on, but if he thinks he won last night, he’ll be back.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:06 pm 


Les

Marquez was stiff and old last nite tine to retire

Posted October 13, 2013 11:59 am 


Ray Ray

Busterjay/tomato can…..ur both spot on. In other words, these fools who r blinded by there love of certain fighter r crueling 2 good fighter e.g Marquez/Bradley. Today wasnt about manny. Pactards have loser attitudes, always making exuces…..if u lose take it on the chin like a man and move on……thankx JMM and Bradley 4 2days entertainmet.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:58 am 


HHLondon

The Ring

Lomachenko looks real good, that’s what Orlando Cruz thinks., seriously though, Lomachenko will have his back to the wall against Cruz.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:02 pm

Is this the same Cruz who ended up on all fours gagging on Salido’s wood?

Posted October 13, 2013 11:56 am 


HHLondon

Marquez looked old in there last night and every year his age.

JMM has been a great asset to this beautiful game and I think it’s time he hung up his gloves.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:54 am 


Tomato Can

Judges are human, although they’re not supposed to judge anything but what takes place during each round, if a fighter gives those judges some bait to do otherwise that fighter just might end up in the same boat as Pacquiao was against Bradley.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:42 am 


Tomato Can

Tomato Can Stan, my point is, when you piss off judges before a fight you better fight more than 1:30 min’s of every round if you want to win. Most of us think Pacquiao won. As a matter of fact, every time Pac opened up he was doing the better work and was taking the rounds based on that. But most of the rounds he he fought in little spurts than did nothing. Pacquiao was asking for a loss, by his actions through out the entire evening.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:37 am 


BUSTAJAY

Tim had his ring IQ questioned when he went toe to toe with the RUSSAIN.
Now, he out boxed the boxer and is called a runner so thill no respect from the media.

This will make the man hate the sport he so loves in the end.
Watch, years from now he will be called an all time great right before he dies…..WTF?

Posted October 13, 2013 11:36 am 


Hecdog

Justice is served even though I had Ped man Marquez to win by KO. Hereida was upset that Ped Man Marquez had some roid rage towards him in his last work out. Ped Man MArquez treated Angel like crap . Finally, Ped Man Marquez will retire. And yes he continues whining, crying and complaining about how he was robbed. This man has always showed his true character after he losses. Next up, the best fighter in boxing history and the only 8 division boxing champion, Manny Pacquiao. The world awaits.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:21 am 


EZ E

BOXIE BOY Need another reminder??

Posted October 13, 2013 11:12 am 


EZ E

BOXTRA, you also picked Mares over Gonzalez but… I guess that one didn’t count because it ended too early, huh?? Oh well… whatever makes you happy. LOL!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 11:10 am 


Wearerofallthebelts

@tomato can… yes I think it probably was Gatorade but I am surprised no one has aid anything about it given the sensitivity to PEDs these days. Particularly surrounding JMM.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:08 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Tomato Can – The point is, even when he took the rounds off he was still beating Bradley. Pac is n elite fighter an ATG. With scores like Vera/Chavez and that, I would think the judging is to blame, and I’ll even go as far to say corrupt.

Posted October 13, 2013 11:00 am 


It’s me, Public Ernie

Public Enema is crushed at the revelation that consuming copious amounts of man-jizz isn’t going to be the remedy for reviving PR Boxing… He had been emulating Cruz in solidarity for the past couple of months and Wtf is he going to do with his multi-colored “Ay-Papi” daisy-duke shorts now!?.. What a Douche… (lol).

Posted October 13, 2013 10:57 am 


Tomato Can

The Bradley/Pacquiao decision was controversial to say the least, however Pacquiao played into that decision by take the majority of the rounds off, and choosing to do his work late in each round. he chose to fight that way after making the judges wait 45 minutes extra so he could watch a basketball game, and then warm up on a treadmill. so really Pacquiao had no one to blame but himself for the Bradley loss.

Posted October 13, 2013 10:56 am 


Tomato Can Stan

“I disagree 100% Bradley did NOT beat Pacquaio” – Wow. We finally agree on something.

Posted October 13, 2013 10:32 am 


Whocares

@ Wearerofallthebelts – I saw the orange drink too and wondered about the same thing….I guess we will not know. It might have been just Gatorade…

Posted October 13, 2013 10:29 am 


Whocares

@Urone 2 – What are you talking about, gods and semi-gods? What are you on? Bradley won against Marquez, no question, but his win against Pac was a controversial decision, no doubt. He did not show enough to take the belt from the reigning champion, the majority of experts agrees on that, that’s not controversial. One of the judges who had it for Bradley, CJ Ross, just got retired for another bad decision that she made in the Mayweather Canelo fight…

Posted October 13, 2013 10:26 am 


Wearerofallthebelts

I’d like to know what the orange drink was that the corner gave to Marquez? Corners are only allowed to give a fighter water. I guess I’m the only one who saw that?

Posted October 13, 2013 10:18 am 


urone2

People hate Bradley because he beat their god Pacquioa, then he beat their Demi-god Marquez. Marquez got the demi-god status when he served up the sleeping pills to Pacquioa. Bradley showed a lot of skill last night, and I hope he gets another shot at Pacquioa. The next fight against Pacquioa people will cry Bradley didn’t win because Pacquioa never went to sleep like he did against Marquez.

Posted October 13, 2013 10:11 am 


SREDMOND

Urone, I disagree 100% Bradley did NOT beat Pacquaio and I have seen that bout more than once I don’t score bouts based on Compubox and neither do judges since the beginning of the sport… PAC man landed the harder, more telling and frequent blows..
People wanna give Bradley a badge of honor because he fought hurt, SO WHAT that does not mean you get handed the fight…Manny Pacquiao was the Champ and you have to make at least a good case to take the Champions belts…
I felt the same way about PAC vs Marquez 3 which was WAYYYY closer than Bradley vs PAC…. I could see how some went for JMM in that bout but he also fought like he (Marquez) was Champion and set himself up to lose…90% of writers panned that decision where Bradley was gifted against Pacquiao and that’s never gonna change…

Posted October 13, 2013 10:07 am 


Whocares

@ Bustajay – I agree, Tim Bradley is a class act and I like him e.g. much better than Mayweather. He is also unbeaten. However, he is a relatively boring fighter to watch and he really doesn’t have a pop unfortunately. I liked his fight against Provodnikov, however he almost lost that won. And in this fan’s opinion, Pacquiao beat him too, however I agree judging was tricky because Pacquiao took breaks in the fight, which he shouldn’t have. Anyhow, Tim is a great fighter but he needs an aggressive opponent for the entertainment. Therefore, another fight against Provodnikov or Pacquiao would be interesting, a fight against Mayweather not so much….

Posted October 13, 2013 9:54 am 


BUSTAJAY

Not here to gloat but I called SD for Bradley. Tim boxed smarter and moved much better than he did with the Russian.

Tim will never gain the respect from some but I say he is a class act.

Well done TIMMY

Posted October 13, 2013 9:46 am 


Kent

Couldn’t have disagreed more with the decision,Marquez did most of the landing and the hurting ,IMO. Harold Letterman should retire from judging,i have never agreed with his score cards,ridiculous!!

Posted October 13, 2013 9:44 am 


eric

The week leading up to the fight jmm poured pee on himself rather than drinking it and that in its self caused a bad performance.

Posted October 13, 2013 9:42 am 


Whocares

Bradley is not a desert storm, he is a desert whiff at the best! I can’t believe he wins boxing fights like this. He was lucky that this Marquez was not the same as in the Pacquiao fight, where he was definitely stronger. The only fight now that makes sense is Bradley vs. Pacquiao IF latter wins his next fight against Rios. Bradley vs. Mayweather, if it were to happen, would be another stinker for which I wouldn’t pay to see. Marquez should retire, he has nothing to prove. I hope he had a good pay day last night. He doesn’t need another Pac fight and Pac doesn’t need him, he beat him twice. Both need to move on or retire…

Posted October 13, 2013 9:38 am 


nyoto

bradley do what chris john did a couple years ago
and it still works, and marquez do what he did after john had beaten him: cried and said…robbed

Posted October 13, 2013 9:34 am 


Shane

Someone is butthurt their guy lost fairly. Tears in Tecate fight. Next Pac will beat Bradley easily……again and JMM will be whining and bowing at Pacs feet for another fight. Then he will lose taking and he will become Rahman. This is gonna kill some of these posters. Lmfao.

Posted October 13, 2013 9:33 am 


Done deal

Bradley won 116-12 to me. Out boxed Marquez by taking a chapter from the fight with Floyd. I think Bradley vs. Garcia should be the next fight in Feb with the winner facing Floyd in May. Bradley has by far the best résumé of any opponent for Floyd. I believe he would get past Garcia too. He is a better boxer than Garcia. He just need to stay away from Garcia power.

Posted October 13, 2013 9:33 am 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

who the f@k is ?

Posted October 13, 2013 9:20 am 


urone2

SREDMOND,

Bradley beat Pacquioa whether most people want to believe it or not. Go watch the fight with the sound off, and count the punches landed and the work being done in every round, and then stop lying to yourself. Pacquioa was out worked by Bradley that entire fight, one guy even posted on here how crooked the punch stat numbers were in round 10. Round 10 Bradley had thrown and land almost twice the number of punches PacQuioa had landed and punch stat had it the other way around. Robbery and Marquez on roids, all excuses by fans of Pacquioa because they thought he couldn’t be beat. Wake up people everyone will be beat sooner or later if they stay in the game long enough. Yeah, if Bradley stays he will be beat, if Mayweather stays he will be beat. The guy that are undefeated left before time caught up to them.

Posted October 13, 2013 9:14 am 


DesertBore

Timothy Bradley, is in excellent physical condition. He uses his legs extremely effectively, and out moved JMM all night. He engaged with fast punches, and backed away and moved out of harms way most of the night. He did indeed, out box JMM. JMM looked to counter, but simply could not because of the movement. Final CompuBox stats had Bradley outlanding Marquez 168-153, and throwing 562 punches (30%) to Marquez’s 455 (34%). Bradley outjabbed Marquez 82-38, while Marquez landed more power shots, 115-86. It was not a ‘sharp’ jab, and looked like a 12 year old could take it, but it did keep Marquez back. All that being said, I would still rather watch Marquez fight anyone else, than watch Timothy Bradley fight anybody at all, let alone pay for it. I see how he won the fight, but my god…he is a stinker. If you can watch him fight, and enjoy it, more power to you…I lack the attention span and imagination to find it exciting!

Posted October 13, 2013 9:14 am 


Neil (Pomy)

… another fight I am glad i missed

Posted October 13, 2013 8:58 am 


Love-the-Sport

This debate is confusing.

I think the different state sanctioning organizations and the different title sanctioning organizations need to establish clear rules of scoring.

What is happening is guys like Timothy Bradley (high volume, low power) get the benefit of the doubt from some judges.

Whereas guys like Juan Manuel Marquez (low volume, sharp punches and some power punches) get the benefit of the doubt from other judges.

It is confusing and nobody really knows who wins these fights.

The traditional scoring guidelines (clean effective punching, effective aggresiveness, ring generalship) don’t really establish who wins these fights.

In my opinion, the winner should be the fighter throwing sharper, harder punches.

Pot shots and jabs should not be a major factor in scoring — unless the pot shots and jabs are sharp, hard, and significant. If a punch does real damage, then it should be a scoring punch. Period. If a punch does no damage, it should not be. Pitty pat jabs should not be scoring punches. Jabs that snap the head back should be scoring punches.

Lastly, they should make the ring smaller so that we get more action.

Posted October 13, 2013 8:38 am 


Ned

Wasn’t there a Sean Monahan on this fight card? He’s not mentioned anywhere in the coverage. I’m wondering why.

Posted October 13, 2013 8:15 am 


SREDMOND

Anyone saying that Bradley “easily beat Pacquiao” needs to shoot themselves, that bout will go down as one of the WORST robberies of a Top Fighter… There is a strong chance PAC will face Bradley assuming he can get by Rios or he could face Marquez for the bigger $$$… Whatever the case Bradley was not in command of Pacquaio…

Posted October 13, 2013 8:14 am 


SREDMOND

There was NO WAY that Marquez deserved to win You guys are like children when you don’t get your way… I had JMM pegged to take Bradley out but my eyes are not gonna lie to me about the actual action… Juan Manuel was NULLIFIED, and Bradley landed the cleaner blows, he would not let the older fighter set and punch with his usual accuracy…Marquez waited to long to start pressing because Bradley did not abandon his game plan like he did against Provodnikov I gotta give Desert Storm his props for fighting a smart fight…

Posted October 13, 2013 8:10 am 


BRUCE

billy muslim boy, your ten sisters need your help. they cant find the curry sauce.

Posted October 13, 2013 8:02 am 


?

Who the heck are

BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY and BRUCE?
Are they the Bert and Ernie of ESB. Their soap opera spats have gone on longer than Tark has been alive!

Posted October 13, 2013 8:00 am 


TOUCHÉ

Hey Willie, I totally agree with you. I hate Hopkins! but just like he stomped on the P.R. Flag before Trinidad he wanted to do something controversial before Calzaghe, but it backfired on him, just like Larry Holmes’ comment about Rocky Marciano not being fit to carry his jockstrap did him before he faced Mike Spinks.

The real deal is some boxers use their brains inside the ring and some use the *** instead of their brains outside the ring just like most if us, they can make bad decisions at the very worst times.

I have met both Alan and his dad and they are lovely people. It was just an unfortunate choice of phrase. I haven’t met Hopkins, but his form book shows he will do anything to get an edge, so the jury is out on him.

We need to let the fists do the talking and leave all the political talk to the politicians!

Posted October 13, 2013 7:57 am 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

hoping we can look forward to better fights in the weeks coming up this was a stinker one fighter refuses to fight the other cannot fight any more

Posted October 13, 2013 7:49 am 


BILLY NO MEDALS ALL AMERICAN BOY

@BRUCE,AKA Anonymous, your as DULL as a PLANK!! total BUFFOON!!

Posted October 13, 2013 7:48 am 


MAGOMED ABDUSALAMOV

bradley spent more than half the “fight” standing on the outside with his hands down not throwing any punches he would not engage but still he “won” i would like to see the punch stats

Posted October 13, 2013 7:46 am 


UJelly

Haven’t seen the fight yet, but as soon as an article/comment starts throwing around the word “running”, I can be fairly certain it’s rubbish.
And from what I heard, Bradley had Marquez seriously hurt in the last round, so I found it odd that the article claims Marques “clearly” won the round.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:22 am 


Popkins

Bradley v Pac was a robbery …didn’t close to 99% of experts asked say Manny won? And a few mags/websites even refused to acknowledge the result in their rankings – THAT was a robbery! … From looking at the reviews across the web, yeh it sounds like last night’s fight was just close and competitive, with probably the right man getting the verdict.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:16 am 


piechucker

pac should be looking forward to a Bradley rematch. im sure he wipes the floor with him. just like the first fight

Posted October 13, 2013 7:08 am 


piechucker

A QUESTION FOR ALL POSTERS – does anyone actually like boxtradamus? does he have any friends or supporters on ESB? he thought marquez won ahahahahahahahahah

Posted October 13, 2013 7:06 am 


BRUCE

if that was dull i would like to know what they called the hw bums last week.

Posted October 13, 2013 7:01 am 


FEARS

Right on Terry Fisher! I’m American, but we don’t claim that butt-crack!

Posted October 13, 2013 6:55 am 


mr gav

I didn’t see the fight so I went on a few websitesto find out. This is the only one saying Marquez was robbed in a complete one sided article . Not uunusual for this site sometimes

Posted October 13, 2013 6:41 am 


Decision

Watching Marquez vs Bradley again, right now.
What are people talking about, a dull fight, this was a war.

If you gave the two first rounds to Bradley, eventhough he hit Marquezs gloves, and Marquez hit the american with lots of powerpunches, then you saw the same fight as the commentator.

Marquez clearly won this fight, he got tons of power punches in, while Bradley ran and missed.

Yes Bradley is a good boxer, but there is no way, you can give this one and the Pacman fight, too him.

Posted October 13, 2013 6:39 am 


Public Enemy

Marquez lost? Bradley sure is one lucky mofo. The judges keep giving him victories when clearly he should be losing.

Posted October 13, 2013 5:43 am 


Popkins

If Manny KO’s Bradley it’ll almost be like a mini victory over JMM for PAC fans. Making it 3:1 to Pacquiao?!

Posted October 13, 2013 5:35 am 


Popkins

Manny has already clearly whipped Bradley once. Looks like he’s gunna b offered mega, easy money to do it a second time. Ironically, he’ll get more respect for it this time too thanks to his old pal Marquez! :) … JMM will be pissed off big time, and will soon change his tune about having a 5th fight with Pacman.

Posted October 13, 2013 5:28 am 


Tomato Can Stan

boxing barlow – Yes, Bradley was elusive. But he suffered damage and got criticized for trading with Prudnikov. So I think he was determined to do a smarter fight this time. He’s better off boxing—it will prolong his health and career.

Posted October 13, 2013 5:11 am 


boxing barlow

Difficult fight to score. Bradley was very elusive but so elusive that at times it made it hard to score certain rounds as no one was landing anything! If I had my aggression head on I scored it a draw, if I had my fundamental skills head on I gave it to Bradley by 2 rounds. Either way I can’t make a case for Marquez winning.

Posted October 13, 2013 5:00 am 


Chris the champ

Marquez could had beat Bradley but the announcers they’re portiricans and they hate Mexicans so that’s why all the time Marquez did somethi

Posted October 13, 2013 4:55 am 


Willie

Touche – Things are much more politically correct now then they were back in 1980. The irony is, whites are often the biggest promulgators of political correctness, even though they are suffering the most from it. They are a dying race.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:29 am 


Johnny

This decision is likely to make Bradley hated even more. I just want to see him flat out get robbed on a decision against a lower tier guy. That would be some delicious poetic justice.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:19 am 


Cuba

This fight was not questionable. Bradley won it pretty easily. I’m not sure what fight the judge was watching who scored it for JMM. I am a big JMM fan and he did not look like the fighter he used to be. No combinations or anything. He is 40 years old now and needs to stick at the lighter weight.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:17 am 


Tomato Can Stan

This guy Bradley is sure lucky. Winning three decisions in a row that were questionable or close calls.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:11 am 


Johnny

Whats up with all this nonsense being spewed on this forum. I thought we were here to discuss the Bradley vs Marquez fight. Yeesh

Posted October 13, 2013 4:07 am 


Happyboy

BTW well done Bradley, I didn’t watch the fight but I hear it was close. Now Bob can go do his own fuvked up matchmaking and not give us what we want, which is Mayweather vs Pac or Bradley simply because he doesn’t control Mayweather and never will.

Posted October 13, 2013 4:06 am 


Happyboy

Old Coot – Floyd never faught any Top Rank fighter eversince he left Arum, the only relevant boxers that Floyd didn’t fight were all under Top Rank ( Cotto, Margo, Clottey & Pac). Cotto like Mosley & ODH had to leave Top Rank for the fights to happen, what does that tell your old brain? Floyd took his destiny into his own hands instead of letting some greedy ass mtf run his career and he hasn’t done too badly. If Pac & Bradley want to fight him badly they would do the same as Cotto, Mosley & ODH and leave Top Rank and take the test. Simple or stay with that slime ball Arum until he cashes you out.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:54 am 


Ken

I went to a match in LA were there were many fighters I had an opportunity to meet. Most if not all were very nice Cotto, Pacqiauo, mosely, and some sparring partners, but except one person that wasn’t nice and that is Bernard Hopkins. The dude has this personality of, ” what do you want ? ” when all I wanted to do was to meet him. He is very A-holish.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:48 am 


Adrian

Sredmond dead wrong again”SREDMOND

Bradley is gonna get pounded and stopped… Tims a warrior but he has racked up some hard miles the last couple fights… Marquez is so precise its the wrong fight for Tim at this point..”

Posted October 11, 2013 1:33 pm

I got too give it to you sredmond you are sooooo good in analyzing and predicting fights….
HahahahahahahahahahahahahahahAahaga ….

Posted October 13, 2013 3:45 am 


Adrian

PEEJ

Actually Pac doesn’t have to come up with any more excuses on why not to take that lesson Floyd would of given him. He decided to take 2 La while Floyd kept winning.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:12 am

Lmao!! Ok so he is safe….lol

Posted October 13, 2013 3:33 am 


Manny

By the way the fight was so so. Ive been in some southern California gyms and Bernard Hopkins is one of the most hated people out there. People don’t like the guy. He must of screwed a lot of people.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:27 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: If being “fake” means behaving like you and Floyd… I am proud to be fake then… LOL!

Posted October 13, 2013 3:24 am 


@joeminnifield

@danrafaelespn you fat bicth, fkin sissy your guy ass boy friend in the gym, u wisk u had what floyd got, u fat guy cracker

Posted October 13, 2013 3:18 am 


Frank Bake

Dirty Mexican fighters

1# Margarita – Plaster master

2# Marquez – PEDS

Dirty American fighters -

1# Bernard Hopkins – head butts (head first ramming), rabbit punches, arm locks, hugging, fake crying, stalling, low blows, lying to the ref, punches behind the head

2 to 1 the beaners are beating the American fighters

Posted October 13, 2013 3:17 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Tomato Can Stan u a nerd

Posted October 13, 2013 3:16 am 


@joeminnifield

larry homes says the best thing to happen to miss pacman, was he got freddy, an some roids

Posted October 13, 2013 3:15 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Old Coot – Why do you bothr with such immature posters ? Ignore them. You are levels above that. I don’t bother with posters that don’t contribute any serious boxing analysis.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:14 am 


The beast

Is old coot Tark ?

Posted October 13, 2013 3:11 am 


@joeminnifield

fIGURES @Old Coot voted fro @Obama FUNNY TALKING ASS FAKE WANNABE BROTHER, SOUND LIKE A CRACKER

Posted October 13, 2013 3:11 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: FYI… I don’t support anyone for skin color suckuh… Only, for the content of their character… That’s why I voted for Obama…. And you would do the same. That is if you got help for your anger issues. And FYI… I WAS a Floyd fan when he was a LWW… Like I said earlier. But I see your base smokin’ ass can’t pay attention in addition to being dumb!

Posted October 13, 2013 3:09 am 


@joeminnifield

@jeanpascalchamp , cant beat a real brother from america

Posted October 13, 2013 3:08 am 


@joeminnifield

@SugarShaneM u a sell out p*ssy, disgrace to are race,

Posted October 13, 2013 3:08 am 


@joeminnifield

ALLAH CANT HELP SIISY KHAN, THE WHITE MAN JUST RUN ALL THROUGH ALLAH COUNTRY, FK ALLAH

Posted October 13, 2013 3:07 am 


@joeminnifield

SISSY KAN IS NEXT FOR FLOYD FLOYD WILL FK HIM OFF, RAG HEAD

Posted October 13, 2013 3:07 am 


@joeminnifield

ANYBODY ELSE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, COME WITH IT, I’LL DOG YOUR ASS OUT REAL GOOD, U FAKE MOTHERFKERS IN R COUNTRY, WHATS UP

Posted October 13, 2013 3:05 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot his girl is probably a mudshark ugly white bch. seel out uncle tom

Posted October 13, 2013 3:04 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: You sound like you about to cry child.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:04 am 


Tomato Can Stan

Marquez should of stopped after Pac. Boxers never know when to quit. The scoring is ridiculous in boxing. Vera being robbed, now this. Its clear judges want to protect the big names in boxing (so it won’t effect big-name fights down the road), and always screw the journeyman or old faded fighter.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:03 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: You mean you’d try… I bet you’d be REAL surprised… Like Floyd would be against Pacman.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:01 am 


Turb0-H@mster

I don`t like Bradley, but I have to give him his props here.

JMM is a legend, a great thinking counterpuncher, and Bradley executed a plan that kept him ineffective all through the fight.

Kudos to Tim, I picked this fight all wrong.

He didn`t beat Pacman though.

Posted October 13, 2013 3:00 am 


where?

@LVboxing what do u mean? u think that these judges was actually listening to the commentators through out the fight?? lol what a joke!

Posted October 13, 2013 3:00 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: And everything I say about you and more… You are proving to be true with your ignorance this morning. LOL!! But idiots can’t see that.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:59 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot YOU DONT WANNA SEE ME FOR REAL, MY GIRL WILL BEAT YOUR MOTHERFKING ASS, AN I WILL BEAT YOUR SISSY ASS MANS ASS, NOW WHAT?

Posted October 13, 2013 2:59 am 


Johnny

Close fight. Just watching I thought Bradley was handly outboxing Marquez but my round by round scoring had Marquez up by 2 rounds. There were probably 6 rounds that could have gone either way. I’m not sure if this fight had any significant impact on either fighter’s career. It seems like we are back to where we were when we started. I will say that maybe Marquez could drop 3 pounds and fight Garcia (if the were on the same network) at light welter and that would be a better weight class for him to be the top dog at.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:58 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot THEM NERD NAMES U TRY TO CALL ME DONT MEAM NOTHING, EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT MEXICANS AND CRACKERS IS TRUE

Posted October 13, 2013 2:57 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot U THINK U FOOLING US, UNCCLE YTOM!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:56 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot UNCLE TOM SELL OUT!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:56 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: “Real man” my ass… Just an angry fool draggin our race down with your ignorance. I’m a REAL man who can discuss without hate in my heart. I can’t help it that you know Floyd is a fake liar who is scare to fight a real threat like Pacman.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:55 am 


where?

where’s the lucky punch??? ahahaha all u marquez fans was enjoying when marquez ko pac but pac ko him so manny times…..marquez is nothing without that lucky punch!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:55 am 


@joeminnifield

IM A REAL MAN DONT BOW DOWN TO NO ONE, NOT A FOLLOWER, MY OWN MAN, MUSLIM MEN ARE WEAK, WERE DRESS, SANDLE’S LIKE SISSY BOYS

Posted October 13, 2013 2:53 am 


Union

Stop the TARK lies.com

Posted October 13, 2013 2:53 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: Slow your roll n git help fool… Before you lose your rabid ass mind then go out and commit another drive-by on a bicycle!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:52 am 


LVboxing

I saw the fight with the sound off and had Marquez winning 7-5. I then watched the fight with the commentators and WOW does that make the difference. Footwork?! Really? As Marquez is landing a stiff jab and left hook these guys are talking about Bradley’s footwork instead of acknowledging what Marquez had just landed? It’s clear boxing is it of control and is a racket. I suggest you all watch the fight with NO sound. We need to bring back the single play by play commentator. Boxing is a joke.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:51 am 


@joeminnifield

@MikeTyson @50cent @FloydMayweather i like that you an floyd the only real men in boxing. not no kiss a** smiley face tom n*ggers

Posted October 13, 2013 2:50 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield… You’d LOVE that fantasy to be true huh… Like the fantasy that Floyd can beat anyone but lead footed sluggers. LOL!! Or the one about you having a half a brain!!! Huh fool?!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:49 am 


@joeminnifield

@Old Coot LIEING ASS CRACKER, POSTING LIES

Posted October 13, 2013 2:49 am 


@joeminnifield

@danrafaelespn should have given bradley more points jmm fought dirty all night an running his ass off, you fat fk

Posted October 13, 2013 2:48 am 


Old Coot

@ Minnifield: With what BS? The truth about your ignorant ass!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:47 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot give us a break with this bull sht

Posted October 13, 2013 2:46 am 


@joeminnifield

COTTO CANT BEAT A GOOD AFRICAN AMERICAN

Posted October 13, 2013 2:45 am 


Old Coot

@ B Red: Yep Cotto would be great… That is if he’s willing to drop to Welter once again… It would be a slugfest!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:43 am 


@joeminnifield

amir khan, is just like the other one from his country, all hype

Posted October 13, 2013 2:40 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot @ B Red see cry baby sissy, you all hype, Floyd would kill you, never saw one of you that could really fight.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:39 am 


Wut

Bradley wins over Marquez, then Pac will win against Rios. Pac will then face Marquez next year and will win. Bradley-May also for next year in which FMJ will win, for finally a match between Pac-FMJ!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:38 am 


B Red

Old Coot, WHo do you think Bradley should fight next? I’m thinking Cotto for a big money fight

Posted October 13, 2013 2:37 am 


@joeminnifield

@ Old Coot would ko your bicth ass

Posted October 13, 2013 2:36 am 


@joeminnifield

FLOYD WOULDNT ROOT FOR THE OTHER SIDE AGAINST YOU, HE NO MOST LATINOS HATE US,

Posted October 13, 2013 2:35 am 


Old Coot

So anyways… Like I said… Forget Floyd the Duck… Just rematch Pacman Tim.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:34 am 


Old Coot

@ J Minifield: Blah.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:32 am 


@joeminnifield

FLOYD DON’T HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO NONE OF YOU FKIN MEXICAN’S YOU JUST MAD

Posted October 13, 2013 2:31 am 


joseph minnifield

@Old Coot you will never be a real man like floyd.. he didn’t kiss ass to get there

Posted October 13, 2013 2:30 am 


joseph minnifield

@andreward is a sell out uncle tom

Posted October 13, 2013 2:29 am 


Old Coot

Thanks B-Red… Same can be said for your usual smart analysis as well.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:28 am 


joseph minnifield

@ Old Coot your life is boring ass hell. That’s that’s y your so jealous. Your blessings came from Floyd

Posted October 13, 2013 2:27 am 


Old Coot

@ Joseph Minifield… GTFOH with your hate mongering clown… You are as bad as any KKK wizard ever spawned… Go get a clue you dumb ignorant fool. And while you’re at it find some common human decency too. If you have it in you.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:26 am 


B Red

Old Coot has the beat

Posted October 13, 2013 2:25 am 


joseph minnifield

white boys can’t fight, go to mma bs, that y’all sport, street fighting

Posted October 13, 2013 2:24 am 


joseph minnifield

miss pacman would have been easy ko for Floyd

Posted October 13, 2013 2:23 am 


joseph minnifield

fk Mexico boring a– funny talking dumbest race in the world

Posted October 13, 2013 2:23 am 


joseph minnifield

Fk all you Mexican s an crackers

Posted October 13, 2013 2:22 am 


BEARS

i felt provodnikov beat bradley. find a single highlight reel of bradley in that bout. probably doesnt exist. the fight was ok i think provodnikov vs alvarado will be better and more fireworks

Posted October 13, 2013 2:21 am 


joseph minnifield

FLOYD WOULD HAVE BEAT DARAN EASY

Posted October 13, 2013 2:20 am 


BEARS

boxtradamou- i got so many right i get angry typing it all” well said and very funny post. thats how u shake it off a loss that is. not create alter egos like correctemundo. good post

Posted October 13, 2013 2:19 am 


Old Coot

@ Bears: Oh cut it out will ya?… The fight was good… Bradley just outclassed JMM… And he was still way more exciting than when JMM fought Floyd! And by the way… Did you see Bradley VS Provodnikov? That was fight of the year worthy… So don’t try and say Bradley can’t provide excitement… MOST of his fights have been exciting. @

Posted October 13, 2013 2:18 am 


BEARS

i thought the fight was weak and expect provodnikov vs alvarado to provide much koe fireworks an abundance of fireworks

Posted October 13, 2013 2:15 am 


Old Coot

TARK: I tend to ignore fools like Minky… You know what type of useless filth he is by his comments. He’s about the same worth as a rotting road-kill skunk! Which would be negative zero!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:15 am 


Old Coot

Anonymous: LOL!! Hear, HEAR… Yep Old Boxtradimwit DID say that huh? LOL!!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:12 am 


Old Coot

@ BOX… No… Blah… And BS TOO!! LOL!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:09 am 


Old Coot

Never say die huh? Boxtra? Just change the BS to make yourself look smart… RIGHT? LOL!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:08 am 


Boxtradamus

Old Coot- Nope. BLUR…..as in you have BLURRY vision. Again, go get you some EYEGLASSES.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:07 am 


Old Coot

BOX…. Blah!

Posted October 13, 2013 2:06 am 


Anonymous

boxtra knows nothing.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:06 am 


Old Coot

Yep… Forget even trying to fight Dodger Floyd… TOO MUCH DRAMA!… Rematch Pacquiao, who this time, will come in loaded for bear!… Last time you could tell Manny didn’t take Tim seriously… And I think the judges sensed that.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:05 am 


Boxtradamus

Old Coot get you some EYEGLASSES. Bradley copied Floyd better than Broner does. He didn’t just copy the Mayweather pose, he also had the movement. Broner lacks the movement of Mayweather and thats why Malignaggi was able to land more shots on HIM than Marquez landed on Bradley. SO please learn more aboit Boxing.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:02 am 


Lman

Bradley won, I thought he would, now he can fight Manny again and try and redeem himself…JMM should have called it a day after Pac, atleast this time he got paid well unlike when he chose to fight Chris John..

Posted October 13, 2013 2:02 am 


Old Coot

@ Ray Ray… Yep… JMM should have went out on top… Just as RJJ should have after his unlike win at HW over Ruiz. But NOO… Now he will be begging for a re-match with Desert Storm and just lose again.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:01 am 


Mortal Kombat

Maidana will finish Broner.

Posted October 13, 2013 2:01 am 


Ray Ray

I feel 4 Marquez. You could hear it in his voice, you coukd c it in hus face. He wanted 2 retire after the manny ko…bad advice, he should have listened 2 himself and his wife

Posted October 13, 2013 1:56 am 


Union

Broner doesn`t pressure. He was lazy and threw no punches vs Malignaggi. TARK is being a silly billy again.

You need to go and lay down for some sleep TARK because you are an old man, and you are getting old and tired and silly.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:54 am 


Old Coot

Poor Box… I feel sorry for him.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:54 am 


Old Coot

Yeah… Broner beats Marquez similar to how Floyd did. Because he copies Floyd’s style pretty accurately.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:53 am 


Boxtradamus

MATH is MATH TARK. IF we stack all the ones I’ve gotten right vs the ones I’ve gotten wrong that would be LOPSIDED in MY favor and you’d see that I am 95%. I’ve gotten MANY upsets right including the GREATEST knockout of all times when Marquez knocked out Pacquiao. I also got Tarver over Green and Green was the favorite. Ward over Kessler when Kessler was the favorite. Dirrell over Abraham who was the favorite. Pacquiao over De la Hoya who was the favorite. Hopkins over Tarver who was the favorite. Guerrero over Berto who was the favorite. Senchenko over Hatton who was the favorite. Hopkins over Pavlik who was the favorite. Martinez over Pavlik who was the favorite. Froch over Abraham who was the favorite…..I’ve gotten SO many upsets right that I get UPSET having to type all of them. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:53 am 


Happyboy

Bradley vs Mayweather, Cotto vs Canelo & Danny Garcia vs Bam Bam Rios. Top Rank vs GBP peace treaty.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:52 am 


Happyboy

Bradley vs Mayweather.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:49 am 


TARK

What I’d like to see is Provodnikov vs Broner… Two guys who put murderous pressure on you.. That would be a treat.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:49 am 


Hidalgo

Wow! This is one fight I didn’t expect to eat crow on. I really thought Marquez would find Bradley and take him out. But, Bradley showed that he’s no fool after his tough fight with Provodnikov.

CONGRATULATIONS, TIMOTHY BRADLEY!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:48 am 


Old Coot

Tonight, Bradley proved he and his trainer are as talented and as smart as any pair. They not only had the perfect nutracounter game-plan, but Tim also never deviated, even when he got tagged a few good ones… That is unless Marquez got desperate and tried to brawl to his detriment… Not many fighter have that discipline to stick to the game-plan for the entire bout… In fact it was JMM who got frustrated and desperate, and resorted to trying to attack similar to his fight with Mayweather… Which of course is a thing this straight forward, counter puncher simply just has no talent for.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:47 am 


Ray Ray

JMM has no business at welterweight, he should have went out after belting manny.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:46 am 


TARK

Boxtra.., You picked Donaire to beat Rigondeaux so don’t lie. To get to 95% you have to get the upsets too. You don’t.

You had 2 Ortiz fights wrong in a row.. You picked him to lose to Campbell and Berto.. you got 2 several Hopkins fights wrong.. You picked him to beat Pascal then — then you picked him to lose to Pascal and got both wrong. You’re like Sredmond., throwing guesses out there, but not educated guesses. You’ve never boxed or trained boxers so you don’t know what you’re talking about.

You admitted that when Oosthuizen didn’t beat Gonzalez and you were WRONG AGAIN

Posted October 13, 2013 1:40 am 


Boxtradamus

Marquez can also beat Broner. Broner stands flat footed and would not be able to avoid the punches that Bradley DID. Bradley studied the Mayweather Fight and stayed behind his jab with MUCH movement. He read MY posts and understood that going for the knockout would equal his own DOOM. I APPLAUD him on that.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:39 am 


Old Coot

Yep… I always knew Boxtrabrainless is a sore LOOOOSER!!! LOL!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:36 am 


Boxtradamus

Also I took Rios over Alvarado in the 1st Fight but didn’t make a pick in the rematch. SO of the 5 Fights you just posted I went 80% which is WORSE than MY usual standard but MUCH better than YOURS. Thats why I’m the GREATEST Fight Prophet and YOU’RE not.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:34 am 


Union

I think TARK should stop lying for a minute.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:34 am 


B Red

BOXTRA IS A SORE LOSER, HAAHAHAHAHA

Posted October 13, 2013 1:33 am 


, n

Pacquiao v Mayweather, not Mayweather v Bradley.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:33 am 


Old Coot

OOOOOH!… Boxtradummy is getting mad… I never saw that before… Don’t get mad girl. Just woman up and admit you suck!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:31 am 


Boxtradamus

You DUMMY. Those aren’t MY picks. I took Matthysse over Peterson, Alvarez over Trout, and Rigo to WIN IF he took MY advice. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:28 am 


Old Coot

Bradley was very smart tonight… He took a page from Pacman, He didn’t just keep his distance and potshot like scary Floyd… But rather he neutralized JMM’s countering with lots of head and upper body movement but with more super quick in-and-out jabbing, and body shots, and looping head shot, instead of just lunging in face first, looking for the kill, And when Marquez tried to brawl, Tim got the better of the exchanges. In short he and his trainger figured out the perfect game-plan. CUDOS!! And Congrats!! And BRING ON Pacquiao… Because we know Chicken Floyd won’t even try against anyone with foot and handspeed.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:27 am 


Havoc

Marquez done!!! Old and shot fighter. Wish him all the best! Hope no brain damage and enjoy the fame and money.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:27 am 


TARK

Boxtra.., A jab can he harder than a power punch. The hardest punch landed in the Cotto-Clottey fight was a well timed jab.

It dumped Clottey for a count. Marquez did well for a 40-year-old. There are other welterweight champions he could beat. Alexander for instance.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:26 am 


Boxtradamus

Bradley got the WIN so he should be after the Mayweather Fight. But that would stop his own momentum. SO he should take the WINNER of Pacquiao-Rios or the WINNER of Alvarado-Provodnikov.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:25 am 


Boxtradamus

The FACT is that the judges sectioned me and correctly put me in Broadmoor, I took some heavy jabs in the arm, I escaped though and here I am.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:24 am 


WHAT!?!

Oh really Boxtra, 2yrs straight without a loser. Then why is it that you got all these wrong? Trout to beat Alvarez. Donaire to KO Rigo. Rios KO Alvarado. Petersen over Matthysse. Dawson over Stevenson. These picks make your 95% look like total BS, as usual.

For the record I picked JMM tonight and got it wrong according to the judges.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:22 am 


SREDMOND

Man please Provodnikov lost and so did Marquez guys use the word “Rematch” WAYYYYYY to much… Bradley vs Prov would have a Bette basis for rematch based on action than the decision.. Tim won, trying to sell Provodnikov as the winner is jus foolish… Bradley should be seeking a Pacquaio rematch it makes him the most $$$… Marquez has to ask “what fight is winnable” or do I want to retire at 40? JMM was NOT sharp

Posted October 13, 2013 1:22 am 


punch

I expected Marquez to win but he didn’t Bradley won and I give him all the credit. This is the second time Bradley has surprised me. I thought Marquez was going to counter him more effectively but he seems to have lost a little bit of timing which was suppose to be his key to victory. I actually think it should’ve been a UD for Bradley even though it was close.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:20 am 


Boxtradamus

Compubox means A LOT. It is the scoreboard that is void of OPINION. Punches landed is FACT. The FACT is that the 2 judges scored jabs over power punches which is WRONG. I don’t blame Bradley for that though. He fought the Fight he had to Fight. Kudos to the judge that scored the Fight correctly.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:18 am 


Old Coot

Woops… I meant, they wouldn’t call it dull, had Marquez got the decision! LOL! Looks like some sour grapes and some a whole lotta’ surprised hatin’ goin’ on to me!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:14 am 


Boxtradamus

TARK had better go take a COUNTING class. I went 2 YEARS straight without picking one LOSER. How do you think I got to 95%????? I remain as the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born and getting one wrong is no factor in that. I dont puff on MY Victory Cigar tonight SO I’m going to have to settle for a glass of red wine and some puzzy….not TOO bad of a consolation prize!!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:13 am 


C-

Broner is cr@p, he just makes videos while sitting on the cra@pper, class.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:13 am 


Old Coot

I betcha all those calling the fight “dull”, would not be saying that had Bradley got the decision! LOL! That was far from dull… Now Marquez VS Mayweather… THAT was TRULY DULL!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:12 am 


B Red

Great fight, Bradley was quicker and and slicker, ya dig

Posted October 13, 2013 1:10 am 


JoeKidd

If this was an “incredibly dull” fight, what do you call Mayweather’s fights? All these guys are getting inspiration from the great one!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:10 am 


Old Coot

Bradley not only won… He made Marquez look like an amateur.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:10 am 


Du Du Dull

Dull #2…………after Dull #1 = Dull Boxing

Posted October 13, 2013 1:09 am 


Non Event

Bradley v Marquez, you will not watch that again, boring.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:09 am 


Boxtradamus

Bradleu DID look better than Broner in that Fight though SO he has improved. Broner looked BETTER than the Bradley that faced Provodnikov.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:08 am 


Old Coot

Tark: Yep! Boxtra’s been posting the same arrogant, WRONG, cut n paste crap for a decade!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:07 am 


PEEJ

Compubox means squat. People need to stop using that to try and prove a point

Posted October 13, 2013 1:06 am 


TARK

Boxtra… You’ve been posting for 10 years. You’d have to be right 60 times in a row to get to 70%.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:06 am 


Old Coot

Pacquiao will avenge his robbery against Bradley and then he will try to beat up Floyd… Who will just duck BOTH!!!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:05 am 


Tostada

Only idiot will think marquez won the fight its so damn clear bradley won..

Posted October 13, 2013 1:05 am 


TJ

RUSLAN PROVODNIKOV just tweeted:

@RuslanProvod: How do the judges see this Bradley fight with a split decision win for BRADLEY and my fight with Bradley a unanimous decision for Bradley..)

HE has a very good point and deserves a rematch!

Posted October 13, 2013 1:04 am 


Boxtradamus

Compubox agrees with ME that Marquez landed more power shots. Bradley landed more jabs. Power punches are GREATER than jabs. Bradley is a pretty GOOD Fighter. He can’t beat Mayweather though. He needed 2 blind MICE just to beat Marquez.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:04 am 


Country Whores Lead Me Home

Bradley isn’t that good. Five years ago Marquez would’ve destroyed him.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:03 am 


Union

Boxtradamus has a sore botty hole. He was very wrong.

I don`t think he must watch very much boxing.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:02 am 


TARK

Bradley.., Wins over Witter… Holt… Peterson… Pacquaio… and Marquez… Pretty damned impressive.

Ugh… That means he deserves a Floyd fight.

At least make Tim fight Danny Garcia first… That would save us from the super dull Mayweather-Bradley fight — probably the worst matchup in fistic history… I’m praying it won’t be as bad as I envision.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:02 am 


Old Coot

Bradley won me $300! Bring on Pacquiao… Because we know Floyd will never fight him.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:01 am 


Union

You should lie less TARK, then people might like you more and you might get into heaven.

Posted October 13, 2013 1:00 am 


Boxtradamus

TOO bad that I need to be wrong 20 more times in a ROW just to drop below 90% WINNING percentage. Bradley kept it close enough to make the robber justified. GOOD job Tim you smartened UP and DID what you had to DO. Going toe to toe with Marquez like Pacquiao DID would have been ASININE.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:59 am 


Old Coot

Ignore Boxtranumbnuts… He is a dumb sadist who likes to try to get under your skin with clueless nonsense!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:58 am 


The Prince

Boxtradamus – Power punches are greater than jabs, when you land them. Marquez was swinging at air most of the fight.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:57 am 


TJ

DESERT STORM basically gave away his fight plan in an interview with East Side:

WBO welterweight champion Tim Bradley (30-0, 12 KO’s) has it all figured out how he can go about beating Mexican warrior Juan Manuel Marquez (55-6-1, 40 KO’s) in their fight on October 12th.

To Bradley, Marquez has problem with fast fighters and he thinks he can give the 40-year-old problems by using his hand and foot speed to fight at too high of a pace.

Bradley thinks he can work him hard to take advantage of his tendency to fight in a methodical manner.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:57 am 


Weightless

S REDMOND, your weight is – 00000.1 gram, you are a fool, a joke.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:56 am 


Old Coot

Rematch Pacquiao!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:56 am 


Old Coot

Dull? I wasn’t a fight of the year candidate, but it was far from “dull”. This scribe MUST be a Marquez fan. Anyway… I’m just glad I won $300.00.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:55 am 


Union

No TARK you are a naughty liar.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:55 am 


Boxtradamus

Marquez was ROBBED just as I suspected!!!! Power punches are GREATER than jabs. The 2 judges who gave it to Bradley need to go take a SCORING class. POOR decisions do not effect MY GREATNESS.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:55 am 


1-2

Bradley won8-4 or 7-5. I was going for Marquez but it seemed like he couldn’t connect like he wanted. Maybe due to Bradleys elusiveness or a 40 yo fighter. Maybe both

Posted October 13, 2013 12:54 am 


TARK

Boxtradamus.., WRONG AGAIN… Mitt had you figured. He saw your pick and said that meant Bradley would win.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:54 am 


Ray Ray

Like i said Marquez should have called a day after he KO’d manny

Posted October 13, 2013 12:52 am 


The Prince

The crowed wasn’t booing after the decision. In fact, some of them were cheering. Bradley clearly won the fight.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:51 am 


LOS TIGERES DEL NORTE NOVIOS DE LOS MARQUEZ

MANNY, MANNY, MANNY!!! Maquez no sea un pato, da le a Manny la revancha. O vete a chingiar la hermana de tu hermano’s esposa chingon…

Posted October 13, 2013 12:50 am 


TARK

Union.., Nope. You can check my posts. I always said this was most a close distance fight. I had better than a 70% chance of going 12 and the best bet was the over.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:49 am 


Boxtradamus

Nooooooo!!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:48 am 


LOS TIGERES DEL NORTE NOVIOS DE LOS MARQUEZ

Marquez es un pendejo que nunca iva ser Julio Ceasar Chango. Marquez ya esta como un viejo que ni se la para. Que cabron eres.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:48 am 


Hecdog

Here goes Ped Man Marquez with his whinning and crying about being robbed. Class guy isn’t he. Manny Pacquiao is all class and handled everything with class. Ped Man Marquez says this is the 6th time he’s been robbed. What a cry baby this guy is. He lost, accept get over it and retire Ped Man. Take Mr. Hereida with you. Manny Pacquiao will take boxing back to what boxing should be. Excitement, class, thrilling fights. Timothy Bradley, Floyd mayweather, both of you best stay away while Manny is still fighting. This man is on a mission. 3/4 of the world will be ordering Manny Pacquiao’ PPV fight vs Brandon Rios. ave your money now.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:47 am 


SREDMOND

I have no issue being proven wrong and giving the winning fighter his credit in fact I think Bradley deserved a UD win…I’m not Bears, Tark, or Hecdog that always have another spin on an incorrect prediction.. Bradley fought the RIGHT fight and he showed he was the younger, quicker man… As a true fan of the sport I appreciate the purity of the result…

Posted October 13, 2013 12:46 am 


TJ

Supreme Court

The Highest Court somewhat agrees with Largo: If the Great Marquez does not KO Tim, he loses.
Since Tim is kind of “little Holyfield”, the likelihood of UD in favor of Tim is significant.
There is a pattern with the ageing Marquez: he was behind the scorcards vs J. Diaz before he caught him; so he was vs Pacquiao, (and if I am not mistaken, vs Katisidi as well)…..
Bradley is strong, active. If his chin was not damaged, he may win.

( je vous le dis en verite)

Posted October 12, 2013 8:35 am

SUPREME COURT got it right!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:46 am 


Union

TARK lying AGAIN.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:45 am 


Tachyon

JMM wanted to retire but was talked in to the Bradley fight in a effort to win a 5th title and make history. He also got more money that what Pac was offering.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:44 am 


LOS TIGERES DEL NORTE NOVIOS DE LOS MARQUEZ

Retirese ya Juan MAMAO Marquez, Timothy Bradley no sirve para nada y te pincho su madre. Que puto eres. Timothy se te cago en su maldita madre.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:43 am 


Styles

Pacquiao will knock out Mayweather, everyone knows that, Mayweather knows it,

Posted October 13, 2013 12:43 am 


Anonymous

Sredmond.., You’re a very poor analyst.. You thought Floyd would KO Canelo… You thought Peterson would beat Matthysse… You thought Matthysse would KO Garcia… You thought Marquez would KO Bradley…

And you just know Lewis beat Vitali legitimately… You need glasses and a brain.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:42 am 


murderman

@ hecdog – before u get carried away pac has to beat bam bam rios which will be no easy task!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:41 am 


Happyboy

Justice was done when Pac took a nap.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:40 am 


nameless

Two thumbs up for Boxtradamus for predicting the right winner, two thumbs down for Largo for predicting the right loser.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:40 am 


The Prince

Marquez is greater, but only against stationary fighters, or fighters who charge after him. That’s why the guy who is afraid of needles got bodied.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:39 am 


PEEJ

Pac didn’t want to give the money Marquez wanted for a 5th fight. Same can be said about Pac turning down 40 to fight Bradley and lose

Posted October 13, 2013 12:39 am 


DIRTY BOXERS N DRAWS

Good thing Marquez didnt fight alot of pure boxers in his career. He would have been a decent fighter and not a so called “Legend” like he is considered.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:39 am 


SREDMOND

It’s getting to the point that hearing the decision during bouts is more like a roll of the dice than a formality… I thought Marquez would be able to ring Bradley’s bell but hats off to Tim he made JMM look like an OLD man missing, and off balance… The judge who scored for Marquez is NUTS .. That was the worst Marquez has been shutdown since he fought Mayweather, Bradley was too fast, and too slippery for JMM… I don’t know where Marquez goes from here…

Posted October 13, 2013 12:38 am 


PEEJ

We will see how anticipated his return is if they so happen to release his PPV numbers

Posted October 13, 2013 12:37 am 


Hecdog

There is justice in boxing. Ped Man can now retire for good. He lost, and surprisingly, his Peds did not work. Now, he needs to retire and go away for good. Bring on the fight everyone has been waiting for. Manny Pac Man Pacquiao makes the most anticipated boxing return to the ring. Ped Man Marquez could have made 10 million more than he did for this fight. Serves him right. The only 8 division boxing champion in boxing history will capture the world’s attention in November. Ped Man Marquez, good nite and good riddens. Hopefully his tests come back clean. Please never compare Ped Man to Manny Pacquiao ever again. Manny will do the same thing to Ped Man and not give him another fight. Bradley beat Ped Man Marquez up badly. Justice prevails.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:29 am 


THE GREATEST

LENNOX LEWIS, HOLLAH.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:28 am 


The Prince

Marquez fights best when you try to overpower him. He then lands his counters and hurts them. Against a boxer that can move in-and-out, Marquez has trouble and can’t land cleanly. Marquez wasn’t too old, his style isn’t meant for pure boxers.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:28 am 


JoeKidd

Bradley would have probably beat him on a toe-to-toe brawl even. His punches didn’t seem to bother Bradley any.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:28 am 


TARK

That was Idiot Ernie EZ E… He puts up fake TARKS all over the place.

I figured the fight would go 12 rounds and took the over… That was the best bet considering how close this matchup was — the surest thing was it was going 12 full rounds.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:28 am 


DIRTY BOXERS N DRAWS

That fight could have been scored 121- -2 and no one would see the difference. What a difference that drug testing makes. Then Marquez plays the p-ssy roll and wont give Manny a rematch after Manny gave him 2.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:27 am 


McCougarsnatch

test

Posted October 13, 2013 12:26 am 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

TJ: Thank you for affirming my greatness. I am after all the greatest analyst since the BIG BANG

Posted October 13, 2013 12:25 am 


murderman

Marquez shoulda fought pac for the 5th time. Fought bradley took a lost and got less money. He can kiss a big money 5th pacquio fight good bye! If bradley was smart he would leave top rank and cashout w a floyd fight! Something pac seems not to be smart enough to figure out yet.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:25 am 


JoeKidd

Marquez totally schooled. Very ordinary fighter if you don’t charge at him like a Pacquiao. Looks very clumsy. What a crybaby!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:24 am 


DIRTY BOXERS N DRAWS

Cheater!!!!! Bradley took him in his cell and said “GIMMIE THAT CHUNCHUN!!!” BLOOD IN BLOOD OUT STYLE LOL

Posted October 13, 2013 12:24 am 


Toosalty

How could someone gve Marquez 115/113 wow. What fight were they watching

Posted October 13, 2013 12:24 am 


Tomato Can

Hmmm, maybe the pactards are on to something, calling Marquez a whiner not capable of accepting a loss. Actually the only loss JMM has ever accepted without argument was the loss to Mayweather. That’s cause he knew he only landed two good punches, in that fight, all night… Still though, at 40 Marquez is an amazing fighter.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:23 am 


EZ E

TARK, good call. I figured the same.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:23 am 


The beast

Riods didn’t work JMM. Look at how cut JMM back look. He was on Peds

Posted October 13, 2013 12:23 am 


KILLA

His physical muscular body was not the same. His movement was so slow. His punches had no power. He is a cheater.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:22 am 


DIRTY BOXERS N DRAWS

This fight proves. Whatever PED’s he was on vs. Pacman. He was not on them for this fight. No belt for you…LOL

Posted October 13, 2013 12:22 am 


Fedor

Was going for JMM. Boxtra, where you at?

Posted October 13, 2013 12:21 am 


Anonymous

Adrian, who is Breadly? Do you mean BRADLEY?

Posted October 13, 2013 12:21 am 


BEARS

I wanna see provodnikov vs bradley 2.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:21 am 


DIRTY BOXERS N DRAWS

Marquez cant do nothing against a boxer with movement. Honestly Bradley isnt even that good. Marquez needs to call it quits before Pacman gets his revenge on his ass… Bradley would get spanked by Mayweather.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:20 am 


The desert grounds

The old man got beat tonight. He looked stiff and slow. Juan your best days are over unless you can win another and be a clinch holder like old man Hopkins. Other than that who ants to see boring. Might as well hang it up juan its over.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:20 am 


KILLA

There is no doubt JMM was on STEROIDS against Paquiao.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:20 am 


TJ

GONZO OF NAZARETH

Majority of people here seems to think Bradley will be KO’d, please dont change your tune after he easily dominates the fight. I am greatest analyst since antiquity sharing knowledge to the masses. Thank you.

Posted October 12, 2013 4:41 pm

GONZO called this fight absolutely correct! Now, we need to hope that ROB Arum croaks so we can get DESERT STORM to roll in vs Mayweather in May.

Only thing now is Storm has shown his hand, getting on his toes.

If he can’t get Money then PROVODNIKOV deserves a rematch if he gets past the geezer who beat BAM BAM (who’s name escapes me, this early in the morning)!

Hope DINAMITA retires now!

Posted October 13, 2013 12:19 am 


Points

Mayweather will fight Bradley, even if Pacquiao knocks out Rios, Mayweather, you have to fight Pacquiao, Bradley will be too easy.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:19 am 


Pete

Marquez came to fight, Bradley came to run…

Posted October 13, 2013 12:19 am 


Toosalty

My card was just like Howard letter mans card. I gave Marquez only 3 rds.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:18 am 


Adrian

I was 100% corect in my prediction .. I said breadly will get a decision because Marquez is a shot fighter I saw that in his last fight against PAC , breadly is much faster and younger and that will be too much for maruez …

Posted October 13, 2013 12:18 am 


JJ

Yeah won the bet and rent gets paid !!!!!!!! thank you Bradley

Posted October 13, 2013 12:17 am 


The Prince

It was smart of Bradley to take that time off to completely heal, rather than jump right back into the ring and risk further damage.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:17 am 


Toosalty

Told y’all Bradley wins this fight.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:17 am 


LVboxing

Wow. I had Marquez winning 7-5. Boxing is all fixed. This is why they don’t hey my money anymore.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:15 am 


Tomato Can

Bradley can’t fight Mayweather. He’d have to leave Top Rank to get that fight. In anycase, I’m happy he seems healthy.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:15 am 


Tark

I had Tim winning by a split going in.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:14 am 


Points

Mayweather v Pacquiao

Posted October 13, 2013 12:14 am 


PEEJ

I picked Marquez to win this but once again Bradley shows us that all he does is win. He has definitely earned a shot at Floyd. Too bad Arum doesn’t do business with Floyd or Golden Boy

Posted October 13, 2013 12:14 am 


DIRTY BOXERS N DRAWS

Please someone assasinate that judge who caused the split… “The Master” got schooled by a guy who is not even that good… No PED’s for this fight. Marquez looked slower than Carlos Maussa lol

Posted October 13, 2013 12:13 am 


Tachyon

I was wrong. I figured JMM would beart Bradley with power and accurate counter punching. Mayweather vs Bradley?

Posted October 13, 2013 12:13 am 


Points

Provodnikov v Bradley 2, the big fight is Myweather v Pacquia

Posted October 13, 2013 12:13 am 


urone2

What did I say Bradley would win by out working Marquez, I’m not always right but I got this one. By SD or MD because I knew someone would want to give it to Marquez

Posted October 13, 2013 12:12 am 


PEEJ

Actually Pac doesn’t have to come up with any more excuses on why not to take that lesson Floyd would of given him. He decided to take 2 La while Floyd kept winning.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:12 am 


The Prince

Pacquiao fans will have to wait yet again to see Timmy lose his 0. Blame Bob Arum, or Bradley’s boxing.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:11 am 


BEARS

i thoughtthe fight was kinda weak. funny bradley almost lost it on the decision

Posted October 13, 2013 12:11 am 


human blood

BYE BYE JUAN NO MORE BIG FIGHTS AGAINTS MANNY.. YOU CHOOSE BRADLEY FOR SMALLER MONEY..

Posted October 13, 2013 12:10 am 


Tomato Can

Bradley should have fought provodnikov the way he fought tonight. He would have won that fight much easier, if he had done that.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:09 am 


The Prince

That scorecard proved that Marquez had the benefit of the doubt. Good thing Bradley dominated with clean boxing.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:09 am 


hookoffthejab

what ?

Posted October 13, 2013 12:08 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

12th round draw I have Bradley winning 117 – 116 in a very close fight IMO..And the HBO crew is one of the most biased commentators-jobs i’ve heard in years

Posted October 13, 2013 12:08 am 


Adrian

Master ken — I don’t have the time and nerve to respond to your naive post , if Marquez was beating PAC then who was leading in the scorecards up to the 6th round?

Posted October 13, 2013 12:08 am 


Points

7-5 Bradley, not sure.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:07 am 


Tomato Can

116-112 Bradley. He seems to have weathered the Provodnikov fight well.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:07 am 


nameless

bradley by a country mile.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:07 am 


TecateisBoxing

Nah Bob Arum got this!! 8 to 4 Bradley

Posted October 13, 2013 12:06 am 


The Prince

Bradley won the fight. But lets see what the judges say.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:06 am 


The Prince

Bradley might have made a mistake, Marquez is winning the 12th.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:05 am 


Master Ken

Adrian, are you on drugs?? PAC got beat up in that fight with JMM, JMM was beating him to the punch easily, PAC looked old and without any skill until he finally got knocked unconscious LOL go watch the fight sober plz

Posted October 13, 2013 12:05 am 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Marquez won the 12th thats the only round he won but Bradley wasnt even bothered about it

Posted October 13, 2013 12:05 am 


Adrian

Peej …. Yeah no worries you can sleep tight ,you have a new escuse now for nog fighting PAC … I wonder what kind of an escuse will be the new one …

Posted October 13, 2013 12:04 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Big 10th round by Bradley almost floored Marquez 97 – 95 Bradley

11th Marquez …Bradley is tiring…107 – 106 Bradley

Posted October 13, 2013 12:02 am 


TecateisBoxing

8 to 3 Bradley

Posted October 13, 2013 12:02 am 


The Prince

Marquez has one more round, unless the judges saw the fight differently up to this point.

Posted October 13, 2013 12:01 am 


rbasset

Lemme guess The Prince – Bradley KOed Marquez? Why do you have to be such a tool?

Posted October 13, 2013 12:01 am 


PEEJ

Your right Floyd won’t fight Pac. No need to fight someone coming off 2 losses in a row

Posted October 13, 2013 12:00 am 


TecateisBoxing

8 to 2 Bradley

Posted October 13, 2013 12:00 am 


Adrian

The prince — it’s everything because of paqiao to you right? PAC is not fighting here don’t bash him , and no worries mayweather is smart and won’t fight PAC no matter the circumstances …

Posted October 12, 2013 11:59 pm 


The Prince

Big round for Bradley. He hurt Marquez.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:58 pm 


TecateisBoxing

Maybe Top Rank is trying to create a Floyd Mayweather? Bring on Pac!!

Posted October 12, 2013 11:58 pm 


nameless

marquez is chasing shadows.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:58 pm 


Tachyon

Hurt want stop Bradley you have to put him out cold man has a stout beard.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:57 pm 


Jay rock

Marquez won that round too

Posted October 12, 2013 11:57 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Bradley deserves alot of credit for totally embarrassing the mexican legend

Posted October 12, 2013 11:56 pm 


Tomato Can

Bradley still seems tho have his chin…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:56 pm 


BEARS

bradley hurt in the 5th and 9th. but bradleys winning by a wide margin. have to say i dont like the feather fisted movers i like to see them get jacked up

Posted October 12, 2013 11:55 pm 


hookoffthejab

Timmy has used movement combined with precise punching to keep JMM confused……….

Posted October 12, 2013 11:54 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

9th Marquez hurt him at the end of round….87 – 86 Bradley

Posted October 12, 2013 11:54 pm 


The Prince

A lot of people want Bradley to lose because of Pacquiao, that’s why they’re claiming its close, when Desert Storm is clearly winning the fight so far.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:54 pm 


Tomato Can

Marquez took round nine.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:54 pm 


Jay rock

HBO will say that bradly won

Posted October 12, 2013 11:53 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

8th Bradley…Not a good round by Marquez looked very slow….Is he tiring ?
78 -76 Bradley’correction

Posted October 12, 2013 11:52 pm 


wow

horrible fight. Bradley totally winning, but wow…is i just want to boo as loud as i can right into his ear.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:52 pm 


TecateisBoxing

Not close 8 to 1 Bradley. All of those people who think it’s close listen to Nacho in Marquez’s corner and you will change your mind.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:51 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

8th Bradley…Not a good round by Marquez looked very slow….Is he tiring ?
78 -76 Marquez

Posted October 12, 2013 11:51 pm 


The Prince

Marquez needs to time and hurt him. Unfortunately for Marquez, Timmy can take a big counter-punch.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:50 pm 


Robby

Someone needs to stop posting!!
Jesus!!!

Watch the same fight please!!

Posted October 12, 2013 11:50 pm 


Tomato Can

Bradley’s fighting a smart fight.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:50 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

7th draw Marquez tried to up his punch-output but didn’t hit much ….68 -67 Bradley

Posted October 12, 2013 11:47 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Why are you people scoring this fight close? Its not even close, what has Marquez done in the fight soo far? You fakes should stop posting

Posted October 12, 2013 11:47 pm 


The Prince

6 rounds to 1 Bradley. If he keeps it up, then he’ll clearly win the fight. Marquez is 40 and out the door, so I don’t see a revenge robbery happening.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:46 pm 


Tomato Can

68-65 Bradley through 7, IMO…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:45 pm 


TecateisBoxing

Everyone wants to be like Floyd Mayweather (Fighting style wise)

Posted October 12, 2013 11:45 pm 


Tachyon

Are you guys all watching the same fight? 3 different scores are being posted LOL

Posted October 12, 2013 11:45 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Bradley has been toying with Marquez all night, give him his respect now, hes totally outclassed him.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:44 pm 


Jay rock

I mean who they want to win

Posted October 12, 2013 11:44 pm 


Jay rock

I have Tim by one and you see that HBO has its next star

Posted October 12, 2013 11:44 pm 


Adrian

I am not watching the fight but I have said it Marquez looked a shot fighter and too old to me
In the last fight against PAC , he was flat footed and slow and got lucky with PAC because PAC was trying to finish him off…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:43 pm 


Tomato Can

IF Marquez was in his prime he’s still have to step up in weight to face Bradley. So actually Bradley would have a good chance with Marquez at anytime. Marquez needs to knock Bradley out, or he’s going to lose.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:43 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

6th Round Bradley by activity…But he is getting tagged hard 58 -57 Bradley

Posted October 12, 2013 11:43 pm 


TecateisBoxing

4 to 1 Bradley

Posted October 12, 2013 11:42 pm 


Country Whores Lead Me Home

If Marquez were in his prime, Bradley would have no chance!

Posted October 12, 2013 11:41 pm 


Fights

This is a classic, Marquez knocked out Pacquiao, so, Pacquiao wanted to win the fight against Marquez, prove that he won the 3 fights before, so overdone it and got caught, could of won by his normal boxing, Bradley can win this by just boxing, styles make fights, Pacquiao v Mayweather, that’s the best fight.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:40 pm 


Gobradley

Bradley winning..but damn can he not hit hard..it’s as if he’s got feathers in his gloves…thank god this is boxing and not just about trying to hurt the other guy, b/c man….Bradley punches like a woman

Posted October 12, 2013 11:40 pm 


BEARS

sky announcers blow both hbo and sowtime out of the water. current best. bradleys looks hurt! why is paulie mal being invited to talk with sky? dont like that

Posted October 12, 2013 11:39 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Anyone who thinks Marquez has one even one round needs their eyes examined. He’s landed a few half shots thats it. Bradley too quick, too slick, too much skill for Marquez to answer, even showboating, its quite embarrasing

Posted October 12, 2013 11:38 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

5th round Bradley ..But very close….48 – 48

Posted October 12, 2013 11:38 pm 


The Prince

Bradley is watched a lot of the Floyd/Marquez fight it seems.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:38 pm 


Dino

Keep posting, I am at word worink midnight shift on the PD, can’t watch it. Thanks gents

Posted October 12, 2013 11:37 pm 


TecateisBoxing

If this fight goes the way it started the Judges is not going to give Marquez any love.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:36 pm 


TecateisBoxing

4 to 0 Bradley What is Marquez waiting for?

Posted October 12, 2013 11:35 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

4 round draw 39 – 38 This is a great fight so far…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:34 pm 


The Prince

Bradley is winning the rounds so far.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:34 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Bradleys won every round, all you fake analyst keep quiet

Posted October 12, 2013 11:33 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

3rd round Marquez…Bradley was more active but marquez landed the best punches….29 – 28 Marquez

Posted October 12, 2013 11:31 pm 


TecateisBoxing

3 rounds to 0 Bradley (Come on Marquez throw some punches)

Posted October 12, 2013 11:29 pm 


GONZO OF NAZARETH

Bradley fighting like floyd in a way haha

Posted October 12, 2013 11:29 pm 


K2 Fan

How does one BECOME german , and why would anybody WANT to ?

Posted October 12, 2013 11:28 pm 


Fights

Hagler v Hearns, that was a fight, that’s why everyone remembers it, they will remember it for decades and decades.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:26 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Very strong Bradley Round …19 -19 …If Bradley can keep his jab active Marquez is gonna have a tough night

Posted October 12, 2013 11:26 pm 


Tomato Can

even through 2…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:25 pm 


The Prince

The Desert Storm is still brewing.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:25 pm 


BUCKET

WHEN DOES THE FIGHT STSRT

Posted October 12, 2013 11:24 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Marquez is outclassing Bradley in the 1st round …10 – 9 Marquez

Posted October 12, 2013 11:23 pm 


TecateisBoxing

1 0 Bradley

Posted October 12, 2013 11:22 pm 


The Prince

I see Bradley getting timed. The question is: How will he be able to deal with it?

Posted October 12, 2013 11:21 pm 


Fights

Everyone is expecting this to be a punch out or something, could be a normal fight over 12 rounds.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:20 pm 


Papo

Bradley by decision.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:19 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

LMAO@Tark, nice post fight “prediction”…

Posted October 12, 2013 11:17 pm 


Tomato Can

When one guy has more knockouts than the other has fights, that fighter usually wins.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:17 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

JMM

Posted October 12, 2013 11:17 pm 


Havoc

I’m going for Bradley.

Posted October 12, 2013 11:16 pm 


The Prince

IT’S SHOWTI… Oops

Posted October 12, 2013 11:11 pm 


MEXICO

PHEW!!!

Posted October 12, 2013 11:03 pm 


The Prince

The Pactards just their remote at the television.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:58 pm 


K2 Fan

You are out of luck here too , Nameless/Brainless ! You are completely WRONG again . Just when you were on your first gloat ,” the kid is giving Lomachenko hell ” , Lomachenko blew Ramirez out in FOUR ! You just can’t catch a break . It just burns your poor russian ass all to hell that Ukrainians are doing great ! You are nothing but a miserable , twisted , hateful POS !

Posted October 12, 2013 10:56 pm 


It’s me, Public Ernie

After 7 rounds of being slapped and pummelled by the bald and virile Mexican, Cruz finally came in his shorts enabling Salido to claim the “W”.. But the freak show continues.. From the treetops of Puerto Freako there’s talk of a bearded lady ascending the ranks of PR boxing… Public Enema’s sister.. Stay Tuned..

Posted October 12, 2013 10:56 pm 


Tomato Can

Bradley has a since of humor, he said he plans on using his head tonight. lol

Posted October 12, 2013 10:54 pm 


It’s me, Public Ernie

LoL…

Posted October 12, 2013 10:52 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

The future P4P top 3 are in the same arena tonight. GGG, Kovalev, Lomanchenko.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:50 pm 


Tomato Can

Cruz, took some punishment alright; he got hammered tonight. LMAO

Posted October 12, 2013 10:46 pm 


Mex

Public enemy….another PR bites the dust to the hands of Salido.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:45 pm 


Tomato Can

It looks as though Lomachenko may be facing Salido already. Hmmm.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:44 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Excellent win. Salido way too strong.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:43 pm 


The Prince

SUPER COMBINATION FINISH!!!

Posted October 12, 2013 10:42 pm 


T

Cruz needs some smelling salts now, or some poppers.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:40 pm 


The Prince

HBO used to give Mayweather hell during interviews, even though he was their biggest draw. No surprise he left. Showtime, however, is currently treating Mayweather like a King.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:37 pm 


nameless

Is Cruz the g ay guy? Well, Salido is gonna beat’im in the ring and is gonna fock’im outside of it. It couldn’t get any better for Cruz.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:31 pm 


1 belt

Lomachenko has already proven Mayweather couldn’t hold his jockstrap.Time to forget him.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:27 pm 


Tomato Can

It looks like it’s a matter of time before Salido, takes him out.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:26 pm 


TecateisBoxing

@Tomato Can Imagine if you were to get knocked out by Cruz…Your career is OVER!!

Posted October 12, 2013 10:22 pm 


Tomato Can

Larry Merchant retired too soon, he’d be having a field day, tonight. Merchant: “why’s that guy wearing pink gloves and rainbow trunks”?

Posted October 12, 2013 10:14 pm 


Tomato Can

lol, lipstick, pink gloves, and rainbow trunks. wow…

Posted October 12, 2013 10:11 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Geez, Salido looks old for 32.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:11 pm 


Yup Yup

It’s going to be hard for Salido to beat a guy who enjoys hard punching in the ring. I couldn’t resist.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:10 pm 


Robert

The sky is the limit for Lomachenko. Outstanding performance. He made his pro debut against a tough established quality professional who had never been stopped. A guy in Ramirez who was 25-3 with victories against guys like Ray Bautista.

What surprised me was how cool he was under pressure. Ramirez brought some heavy heavy pressure and Lomachenko just stayed as cool as a ice cube while throwing blistering combo’s. This guy is the goods.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:06 pm 


nameless

3 you don’t have to be a genius to see he ain’t a Floyd or a Leonard because we saw those guys in their beginnings and there’s no comparison. That nobody was beating his ass.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:04 pm 


The Prince

I agree, this isn’t a PPV caliber undercard, and the main event isn’t big enough either.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:02 pm 


The Ring

Lomachenko looks real good, that’s what Orlando Cruz thinks., seriously though, Lomachenko will have his back to the wall against Cruz.

Posted October 12, 2013 10:02 pm 


Tomato Can

Lomachenko looks real good, but HBO, is starving for new fighters, so their trying to over sale him right now.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:56 pm 


Hecdog

Why on earth would anyone be foolish enough to make this a PPV? Bradley and Ped Man Marquez draw flies. Horrible decision.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:56 pm 


3

nameless, it’s the guy’s first pro fight ffs and you are already able to say who he is and isn’t?

Posted October 12, 2013 9:56 pm 


The Ring

He shouldn’t fight Orlando Cruz next, if Cruz wins, he will get beat up in the ring.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:55 pm 


nameless

not a Leonard or a Floyd but alright.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:53 pm 


nameless

he’s alright.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:51 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Nice performance by Loma on debut against a middle tier fighter. He should not fight for a title in his next fight though. I noticed he did not enjoy the rough housing of the Pro’s and is very open for the right to the body which he got hit with often. Going to be a possible star, hope they don’t rush him too quick.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:50 pm 


The New Superstar

Who can beat the man from Ukraine.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:50 pm 


3

Wow, this Lomachenko is amazing

Posted October 12, 2013 9:49 pm 


nameless

i guess not

Posted October 12, 2013 9:48 pm 


Anonymous

Loma by KO!

Posted October 12, 2013 9:47 pm 


nameless

this kid is giving Lomachenco hell. Rain on this parade? lol.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:46 pm 


Jay rock

Lol

Posted October 12, 2013 9:34 pm 


justin

This is going to be the lowest bought ppv in the history of ppv…

Posted October 12, 2013 9:32 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Looking forward to seeing this Lomanchenko.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:31 pm 


Tomato Can

This undercard is weak, lest see how many Top Rank fighters were invited to this fight so, HBO can advertise them for future fights. Top Rank has some very good fighters, but losing all GBP fighters, and Mayweather has to sting like a Bltch.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:31 pm 


Hey, That’s my Bike!!!

Good honest fighter in Monaghan. Good win, trying to work on skills he’s been taught in the gym. Went for the kill when it presented itself.

Posted October 12, 2013 9:24 pm 



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