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I would add luan Krasniqi there who was Bronz medalist in Olympic Games in Atlanta in hw devision and two time euro champ as a pro plus fought for a hw title against Brewster ANd lost but was winning a fight until he got cought by huge left and got ko’d who btw he has beaten Brewster and klitchko as an amater

Posted October 18, 2013 3:48 am 


Assyriangod- impressive list you put there it shows you know boxing history well I respect that, especially when I see you put my countryman kacar and mate parlow…

Posted October 18, 2013 3:44 am 


There have been a fair few Eastern Euro World Champs (or Eastern Euro origins); Wlad K, Vitali K, Kostya Tzyu, Yuri Arbachakov, Ator Grigorian, Arthur Abraham, Marco Huck, Zsolt Erdei, Lucian Bute, Adamek, Dariusz Michalchewski, Victor Darchinian, Mate Parlov, Istvan Kovacs, Golovkin, Kobarev, Kotelnik, Valuev, Chagaev, Liakhovitch, Povetkin, Wlodarchik, Slobodan Kacar, Leonard Dorin, Martin Krastev, Dzinziruk and many more, and the numbers are increasing.

Posted October 17, 2013 7:22 pm 

Minty Mincer

Depends when Vitali retires, all he has to do is retire in the same year as three better credentialled fighters and he won`t be first ballot, and then might have trouble ever getting in.

Vitali might well end up retiring in the same year/s as JMM, Pacquaio, Mayweather, Hopkins, Martinez, Cotto, Mosely, Morales, Jones Jnr.

I`d place every single one of them in the HOF ahead of him – that is 3 years worth of possibilities gone – aside from the fact there are already 40+ fighters already on the ballot.

Naseem Hamed is on the ballot and not voted in – I`d argue he achieved more than Vitali, in less fights. How many unification’s did Vitali have again?

Posted October 17, 2013 6:22 pm 

Robert A.

The question posed by “WHAT!?!” as to how much Goral has left is interesting. Glazkov may, or may not be a stiff test. He appears to know his way around a boxing ring quite well, but from what I’ve seen of him I think he’s somewhat lacking in the clout department. Still, it looks to be an interesting match up.

Posted October 17, 2013 5:36 pm 

Arnold Krumbacher II

Minty Mincer, Vitali gets in the HOF easily. Who’s gonna stop him?!?

Posted October 17, 2013 12:21 pm 

Minty Mincer

Like how you have to throw in the >10 defences thing for Vitali’s stats to rule out Foreman having start and end of his title reigns 22 years apart.

Or Ali winning title in 64 and holding on in 1978.
With Ali boxing more than twice as many rounds as Klitschko, even fighting with a broken jaw.

Wow no boo boo my arm hurts, oh I am cut for Ali.
Ali has 3 years off in prison for refusing Nam, not years off having steroids injected into his legs.

Posted October 17, 2013 1:05 am 

Minty Mincer

Looks bad for Vitali on the HOF front. A few more accomplished guys are about to retire too.

Posted October 17, 2013 12:48 am 

Minty Mincer

Neither of the divisions Adamek held a title in being HW.

SO in fact you can say he was a puffed up LHW.

Posted October 17, 2013 12:22 am 


Doesn’t matter…, Vitali won 45 of 47 fights, has never been knocked down, and has never been behind on points.

He fought 36 pro kickboxing matches and messed his legs up badly.. which affected his back and everything else.. He took 4 years off to rehab his legs, came back at 37. He never looked better. He said he never felt better than for the Sam Peter fight.. Mostly his legs felt great.

His best techical fight was Tomasz Adamek when he was 40.. The 6’2″ X 216lb Adamek was a 2-Division World Champion and had a record of 44-1 … Vitali beat him every minute of every round before becoming the only fighter to ever stop him.

Posted October 16, 2013 10:38 pm 

Minty Mincer

Vitali may have won his first title in 1999 vs HIde but he then lost it less than a year later, and wouldn`t win another title till 2004.

He then promptly took 4 years off before being gifted another title shot immediately upon his return.

So when you total it up, he was only a title holder for under 2 1/2 years in the noughties. A single title holder at that.

Sorry to chuck a spanner in your Tarky spin doctoring.

Posted October 16, 2013 9:37 pm 


Glazkov is inexperienced…, That’s the only reason Adamek took this fight.. Based on experience I suppose Adamek should be favored.

But I hope Glazkov pushes himself to a new level and punishes this Pole. We need new blood in the heavyweight division. Maybe he’ll face Wilder if he wins. Adamek sure as Hell won’t.

Posted October 16, 2013 7:57 pm 


Great cruiserweight/disappointine heavyweight Adamek will sail to a UD win over flat out disappointing HW Glazkov.

Posted October 16, 2013 7:07 pm 


Anonymous.., “Imbragimov, Chagaev, Liakovich, and Valuev have all had the belts at one point or another in the last 15 yrs or so.”

The last 15 years??? LMAO… How about in the last 4 to 7 years?

Wladimir won his first World Title 13 years ago versus Chris Byrd… Vitali won his first World Title 14 years ago versus Herbie Hide… That means Vitali Klitschko held World Championships during 3 different decades … longer than any Heavyweight Champion with over 10 title defenses.

Posted October 16, 2013 3:17 pm 


Denno- I am pulling for US heavies, and actually think that Wilder might be able to shine in the future… but to say that Eastern European heavies have been overrated, I do not agree with that statement, and give credit where its due… Golota was a top 5 in the world in the 90′s for years and fought for the titles 5 times (some would argue that the decision losses to Ruiz and Byrd could have gone the other way).
Imbragimov, Chagaev, Liakovich, Valuev have all had the belts at one point or another in the last 15 yrs or so, and had to beat all the top heavies that were out there during that time. Now, they might not have been as good as Klitshkos but they were definitely above average and dominating at some point in order to get those belts. Can’t really say nothing even remotely close about our US heavies in the last 15 years or so, unless you want to debate about guys like Mitchells, Arreolas, Thompsons etc. ( last time a US heavy held a belt was Briggs some 10 yrs ago who was later destroyed by Vitaly)…Now those guys are what you call overrated.

Posted October 16, 2013 12:37 pm 

Kid Blast

Great match up

Posted October 16, 2013 12:30 pm 


john – Of those you mention, only the Klitschkos and Tszyu have been dominant in a division. It seems that Eastern European fighters get a bit overrated nowdays, particularly at heavyweight where only the Kltischkos have really dominated, while the Ibragimovs, Chagaevs, Dimitrenkos, Galotas, etc. have not really climbed above the level of the US heavies out there

Posted October 16, 2013 9:50 am 

John O’Brien

Tomasz Adamek to win a close bout. Glazkov ain’t bad, nothing special.

Posted October 16, 2013 9:43 am 

Warren Pint

Adamek to win another close one.

Posted October 16, 2013 9:22 am 

Warren Point

Not a bad match up. I take Adamek in a close one. Glazkov is ok, not particularly special.

Posted October 16, 2013 9:18 am 


Pretty decent match. Adameck should win but would not be a huge upset if Glazkov pulled the upset.

Posted October 16, 2013 7:05 am 


This for mě to close to call. The winner of this could well be inline for a shot ať wlad. Off subject slightly vítali needs to hurry up give stiverne his shot or give up the title. Plenty of heavys wanting shots ať a champion that hardly fights

Posted October 16, 2013 3:46 am 


Pulеv bеаt Glаzkov 2 timе in аmаtеurs, Аdаmеk running scаrеd from Pulеv….

Тhis fight will bе for #2 in IВF rаnking!

Posted October 16, 2013 2:53 am 


First thing I would like to specify is that anyone no matter what nationality can fight for the IBF North American title. There are many paper titles out there such as for example: latino, baltic etc . and anybody can challenge for those titles as well, besides Adamek and Glazkov have been living and training in the US for years. As far Eastern European fighters, ever since the Iron Curtain went down, and they could actually fight professionally, they have been some of the most dominating fighters in multiple boxing divisions with fighters such as: Klitshkos, Adamek, Kostys Tszyu, Kovalev, Imbragimov, Golota etc.

Posted October 16, 2013 12:02 am 



Right…, This should be for the IBO version of the European Heavyweight Title.

The fact that so many Eastern Europeans fight in North America shows the economy is so much stronger here than back home and supports top boxers with more and better paid fights.

Some of their boxing finesse should be rubbing off on American Heavyweights and help with the heavyweight renaissance here.

Posted October 15, 2013 5:13 pm

Yes if you talk about Eastern Europeans but not Western Europe in particular Germany , I can tell you that there are so many weak boxer with no future from Eastern Europe but still make money in Germany or Swiss and they would never name money here in USA with their below the average talent that they have.

Posted October 15, 2013 10:55 pm 

Old School Rules

@Fight Aficionado: “I don’t think we have enough signs of his being shot to call him that”— You’re right, it may be a little too soon to call him shot at this point, but I do think he has sufficiently declined to the point where a young fighter with solid skills can beat him.

In his last fight against an old, out of shape Guinn, Adamek spent the last several rounds circling to conserve energy and occasionally jumping in with short combos. The Tomasz of a few years ago destroys Guinn. A solid younger guy like Glazkov should be able to push the pace to where Adamek can’t hang anymore, albeit Glazkov may eat some good shots early on.

I guess we’ll find out.

Posted October 15, 2013 10:15 pm 

Calzaghe class

Posted October 15, 2013 9:53 pm 

Mayweather v Pacquiao


Posted October 15, 2013 9:44 pm 

Vlad the impaler

if I was

Posted October 15, 2013 8:47 pm 

Fight Aficionado

“Glazkov lost to Malik Scott but Adamek is not as slick as Scott and is there to be hit.” – IMO Scott didn’t do enough to win, he mainly was the spoiler. But he did expose Glazkov as a somewhat pedestrian brawler who does the same moves over and over. If Adamek brings his A game he wins a UD. If he’s shot as you believe, he’ll eat some punches and wither to lose a UD. I don’t think we have enough signs of his being shot to call him that — but he’s been physically eroding since Vitali smackdown.

Posted October 15, 2013 8:20 pm 

Old School Rules

Glazkov wins this one. Adamek is a great fighter but he is all but shot at this point. He already got gift decisions on NBC against Chambers and Cunningham, and he turned down his opportunity to fight Pulev because he knows he’s not what he used to be. Glazkov lost to Malik Scott but Adamek is not as slick as Scott and is there to be hit.
Glazkov will win, but if Adamek can do enough to make it close he probably gets the gift decision.

Posted October 15, 2013 7:47 pm 


Adamek will win at a gallup.

Posted October 15, 2013 6:34 pm 


Adamek will win easily against Glazkov, they are poles apart.

Posted October 15, 2013 6:32 pm 


Adamek by robbery.

Posted October 15, 2013 6:07 pm 


A Pole Vs a Ukranian for the IBF NORTH AMERICAN Title???..US heavyweight boxing is now stone dead!

Posted October 15, 2013 6:06 pm 


Right…, This should be for the IBO version of the European Heavyweight Title.

The fact that so many Eastern Europeans fight in North America shows the economy is so much stronger here than back home and supports top boxers with more and better paid fights.

Some of their boxing finesse should be rubbing off on American Heavyweights and help with the heavyweight renaissance here.

Posted October 15, 2013 5:13 pm 

Fight Aficionado

Nice main event. I wish NBC Sports would make this show monthly. They’re premium cable quality cards for free, which is how boxing should be. If they made it monthly they’d get even bigger viewership. The ratings for these shows are already high.

Posted October 15, 2013 3:29 pm 


I like Adamek. He seems to stay busy and usually has entertaining dust ups. 2 Questions – 1. How much does Adamek have left in the tank? Sooner or later older fighters come up against a young hungry prospect who goes up a level for the fight. 2. How does a Pole and a Ukranian fight for a North American title?

Posted October 15, 2013 3:20 pm 

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