“But there is a reason he didn’t want a rematch and that was because he took a lot of punishment in that fight.”
Peej, you can beat the dead horse all you want but it will never get up and run again. Calzaghe beat Hopkins and that’s that.Posted October 25, 2013 12:04 am
Hagler could only beat guys that came at him in a straight line like Hamsho, Antoufermo, Sibson, Minter, Caveman Jones and Fletcher..hell, he couldnt beat a rusty old Leonard, and leonard was a dud at Middleweight…Calzaghe and Jones would make a fool of Hagler.Posted October 24, 2013 7:03 pm
Peej – a prime Jones ducked Michalcevski lol…and Hopkins beat up Calzaghe…jeez, Calzaghe was fresh as a daisy after the fight lolPosted October 24, 2013 6:59 pm
prime hagler would of walked through the lot of em.Posted October 24, 2013 2:36 pm
Please, that was an old Jones Jr. If that would of been a preheavy weight Jones Jr he would of toyed with Calzaghe. Calzaghe was no match for a prime or preheavyweight Jones Jr.Posted October 24, 2013 1:07 pm
Huge huge Hopkins fan, but I have to admit Joe beat him big time. Hopkins had to use all of his hussle to make the fight look so ugly and it eas all he could do to keep Joe off him. If he had not have used all that holding and spoiling he would have had the same beat down Jones Jnr had.Posted October 24, 2013 12:34 pm
Hopkins beat up Calzaghe but Calzaghe out worked Hopkins so he got the win and rightfully so. But there is a reason he didn’t want a rematch and that was because he took a lot of punishment in that fight.Posted October 24, 2013 10:50 am
In the Modern Era the only guy I’d say maybe had a chance against JoeCal and RJJ at Middle, Super Middle and Light Heavy would be Marvin Hagler, even then i’d bet against him. Forget BHOP, Toney and the Middle and Super Middle versions of Leonard, Hearns and Duran too. And I cant see guys like Bob Foster, Carlos Monzon, Minter, Antuofermo, Qawi, Conteh, Saad Muhammad or Benvenuti beating those two guys either.Posted October 24, 2013 7:22 am
Calzaghe pretty much beat BHOP in every department from the 4th round through to the finish. Fight wasnt even close. BHOP made the fight messy to try and make it look close, but reality here is it wasnt even nearly close. BHOP took the first due to the flash knockdown he scored, apart from that I only gave him a couple of rounds. Speed, workrate, punch output, movement, stamina and a good boxing brain beat BHOP and always will. A prime RJJ wouldve done the same to BHOP, so would mobile guys like Michael Nunn and Herol Graham, i’d bet on prime Mike McCallum and Chris Eubank to beat him too. James Toney was another who couldnt have dealt with the speed, movement, stamina and output of JoeCal and RJJ.Posted October 24, 2013 7:15 am
Kellerman had it right when he said words to the effect that “Hopkins isn`t trying to win, he is trying to not lose too badly”.
It`s a gatekeeper attitude not a champions attitude, and Hopkins has to fester in the knowledge that’s what Calzaghe made him act like.Posted October 23, 2013 11:01 pm
Swedish, Calzaghe wanted to retire as a champion. Not because he didn’t want to face Hopkins again. Joe made his statement, then retired. Too bad a lot of other champions over the course of boxing history haven’t been as wise as Joe.Posted October 23, 2013 10:29 pm
Turbo, I agree with you. Hopkins’ loss to Calzaghe will eat at him for the rest of his life. After all that was that fight in which Hopkins said “No white boy is going to beat me.” But Joe did. Bummer. :)Posted October 23, 2013 10:27 pm
Joe’s win over Hopkins was no gift, Swedish Boxing Fan. Calzaghe pulled out the win in the last two rounds of a very, very close fight. He did beat Hopkins.Posted October 23, 2013 10:25 pm
Calzaghe made Hopkins embarass himself with cheap tricks and play acting to avoid getting KO’ed.
He didn`t just beat him, he bent his psyche over a sofa and shafted it sheep style.
Bernard knows this. He knows that Calzaghe owns him, then, now and forever.Posted October 23, 2013 8:41 pm
Joe clearly won the fight. No doubt about it. Hopkins playing acting was pathetic. He’s an embarrassment to USA boxing. I can’t wait for him to quit boxing so the USA can regain some respect.Posted October 23, 2013 4:00 pm
PEEBRAIN shut the fook up, you’re talking utter crap again. You’re a fooking idiot.Posted October 23, 2013 3:54 pm
Yes Calzaghe clearly won because he out worked Hopkins but Hopkins beat him up and that is why he never wanted a rematch even though Hopkins wanted one.Posted October 23, 2013 2:41 pm
Joe won despite Hopkins play acting and time wastingPosted October 23, 2013 1:53 pm
Calzaghe clearly won the Hopkins fight. No question.Posted October 23, 2013 1:49 pm
Hopkins lost that fight very clearly, the stats dont lie. He was very lucky one judge voted for him, as he only won about 3 rounds.Posted October 23, 2013 1:02 pm
Joe Calzaghe. The greatest fighter ever. FACT.
HARSH REALITYPosted October 23, 2013 1:01 pm
Swedish Boxing Fan
Joe Calzaghe, a great fighter yes, a great champion yes he was as well BUT he got lucky against Bernard Hopkins with that gift Split Decision. I had that fight 115-113 for Bernard Hopkins. Lots of famous boxers and ex champions who watched that fight including Mike Tyson and Ray Leonard stated after the fight they had Hopkins as the winner. ESPN, Yahoo Sports etc had the scores 114-113 for Bernard Hopkins at the end of the fight. Hopkins was the best fighter from start but Calzaghe was the better fighter in late rounds but by then Hopkins had allready secured the fight (!), well that was what we thod. Again a close fight it was and in a fare way a DRAW would not been to far away BUT Hopkins fought the smarter fight with his inside fighting to Calzaghe and his right handpunch landed almost at willl in Calzaghe´s face. I dont want to bring this so repedetly discussion about “who won” etc but I feel Calzaghe have over the years got far to much credit for this fight when it was Hopkins who fought better. Now, End of story. I’m sure Joe Calzaghe have a nice retirement and that he will bring some entertainment on TV.Posted October 23, 2013 11:08 am
Joe’s Britain’s greatest look forward to watching box nation thanksPosted October 23, 2013 7:05 am