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Pratt

I am glad to see that Murat pressured Hop to exchange and work a bit more than usual. Both guys stepped up and put in a respectable performance. An interesting and 3/4 exciting fight. Nice to see Hopkins work and land a few and take a few. A good fight. I expected to see a bore fest and snoring fest but it was a good one. Murat brought it, and Hops answered him.

Posted October 30, 2013 2:35 am 


Anonymous

That ugly mutt Smoger, will stop a left hook of his own the way he carries on with the fighters. Who does he think he is? He’s a referee and he should keep it that way.

Posted October 29, 2013 10:26 pm 


Pratt

I was glad to see Hop was forced to work a little. The fight got pretty rough and both guys stepped up and turned in a good performance.

Posted October 29, 2013 9:59 pm 


PEEJ

Kovalev would knock out Hopkins in 6 rounds, eazy.

Posted October 29, 2013 11:15 am 


Kid Blast

The shoving of the boxer in anger then pushing his face is so unprofessional , he should never ref again. Then hugging BHOP? HUH??

Posted October 29, 2013 12:13 am 


Gus

Smoker did his job well – well that is for the fighter he knows who promoters of fiascos want to see win. The Ref assignments pay well and Smoger who butters his bread.

Posted October 28, 2013 7:49 pm 


Hidalgo

“Stop spreading rubbish. BHop accepted the Kovalev Fight but Kovalev DUCKED for the EASIER title. Smart business move on his part as the Cleverly Fight probably paid more TOO.”

WRONG! YOU are the one spreading RUBBISH Dip-a-damus. The Kovalev/Hopkins fight was not made because ShowTime had no interest in putting it on and at least one top executive from ShowTime stated as much. Furthermore, the Kovalev/Cleverly bout was in the making with HBO BEFORE Kovalev was ever made Hopkins’ mandatory.

There, I wrote just like that fool Braggadamus–ridiculous use of caps and all that.

Posted October 28, 2013 4:54 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah Kovalev turned down the fight with Hopkins. He went in another direction. Not saying he ducked him but he definitely went in another direction at the time.

Posted October 28, 2013 11:45 am 


PEEJ

So name me a fighter that has ever been disqualified or points taken away for talking to ones corner, kissing someone during the fight or heck even talking trash to each other? Just one instance, any country

Posted October 28, 2013 11:44 am 


Ken

Go to youtube and put in – Calzaghe & Hopkins Clash

This is where racist Hopkins tells Calzaghe I’ll never let a white boy beat me !

Posted October 28, 2013 10:53 am 


B-hop punch

The latest boxers have insufficient trainning.

Posted October 28, 2013 7:30 am 


Boxtradamus

Refs don’t land any punches SO the ref is not the factor. The Boxers are the Factors and the BEST man WON. Talking about the ref is irrelevant. IF the LESSER man WON THEN talking about the ref would be relevant.

Posted October 28, 2013 12:27 am 


Boxtradamus

Stop spreading rubbish. BHop accepted the Kovalev Fight but Kovalev DUCKED for the EASIER title. Smart business move on his part as the Cleverly Fight probably paid more TOO.

Posted October 28, 2013 12:25 am 


Farmboxer

Kovalev fought for the right to fight Hopkins, as he became Hopkins’ mandatory, but Hopkins refused to fight Kovalev, so Kovalev had to go to Cleverly’s home town and knock him out to get the WBO title. Because of crooked promoters like Oscar, yes Oscar has become the new Don King! Hopkins also refused to fight Stevenson, both Kovalev and Stevenson would have knocked Hopkins out!!! Murat should never have had a title fight, he was not worthy. I guess Hopkins will fight someone from a nursing home next! Smoger is no good, he has become what appears to be a criminal……….

Posted October 28, 2013 12:04 am 


Anonymous

Smoger is a disgrace to all good quality refs past and present, he should never be allowed in the ring again. The man is the worst ref I’ve ever seen in forty years watching boxing. American’s should hang their heads in shame at having such a terrible ref from their own country.

Posted October 27, 2013 10:33 pm 


Kid Blast

Great post Hidalgo, simple spot on!

Posted October 27, 2013 10:28 pm 


Hidalgo

Oops! My post got cut off. Let me try again:

Peej, it is the referee’s responsibility to maintain control of the fight. What Smoger did last night was no better than an elementary school teacher who loses control of her 5th grade class. Anyone can let boxers do anything they want.

According to the ASSOCIATION OF BOXING COMMISSION REFEREE RULES AND GUIDELINES, the referee is supposed to ensure that the fighters maintain sportsmanlike conduct. Kissing is neither sportsmanlike conduct nor is it part of boxing. Neither is one of the boxers turning his back on his opponent and walking all the way across the ring to verbally agitate his opponent’s corner.

Furthermore, the referee is the sole arbiter in the fight and he has the authority and leeway to determine when the boxers are crossing the line whether it be fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct, or just plain cheating or acting stupid. The rules state:

A boxer will lose by DISQUALIFICATION when he or she has:
Fouled and caused harm to their opponent
Continually refused to follow the rules
Continually disobeyed the Referee

Thing is, Smoger was letting both Hopkins and Murat get away with all kinds of things. Why? He lost control fight. Why? Because he never attempted to take control of it. Had he done so, he could actually disqualify a fighter for disobeying his commands.

Smoger blatantly disregarded the rules in other areas as well–like allowing Richardson to create an oil slick mask on Hopkin’s cheeks, lower face and chin with Vaseline. Regarding the use of Vaseline the rules state:

The discretionary use of Vaseline around the eyes and lightly about the face is permissible.

Hopkins had enough Vaseline on his face to actually cause Murat’s gloves to slide off–which is exactly what Richardson piled it on so thick and exactly why Smoger ignored it, IMO.

Rules for Referees also states:

Establish Control. Briefly go over fouls in general, but explicitly discuss the three most common fouls and harmful fouls. Instill in the boxers a sense of RESPECT for the event and that you demand that they follow the rules and your commands without exception.

The rules additionally state:

A strong sense of proper movement and positioning, verbal commands and hand signals, separate great Referees from the average ones. Establish your commands and signals in the Dressing Room.

Finally, Peej, the rules also say:

As important as this is, the sport continues to have problems due to poor mechanics that lead to negative situations for the sport. It means nothing to a boxer or the sport if the Referee thinks one thing and everyone else another.
Everyone must be on the same page. You do not need to reinvent the wheel.

Clearly Smoger fell down on the job in too many ways to count. It was one of the poorest reffing jobs I have seen in some time. And both boxers knew it too. That’s why they pulled all the crap they did.

Posted October 27, 2013 9:02 pm 


Hidalgo

Peej, it is the referee’s responsibility to maintain control of the fight. What Smoger did last night was no better than an elementary school teacher who loses control of her 5th grade class. Anyone can let boxers do anything they want.

According to the ASSOCIATION OF BOXING COMMISSION REFEREE RULES AND GUIDELINES, the referee is supposed to ensure that the fighters maintain sportsmanlike conduct. Kissing is neither sportsmanlike conduct nor is it part of boxing. Neither is one of the boxers turning his back on his opponent and walking all the way across the ring to verbally agitate his opponent’s corner.

Furthermore, the referee is the sole arbiter in the fight and he has the authority and leeway to determine when the boxers are crossing the line whether it be fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct, or just plain cheating or acting stupid. The rules state:

A boxer will lose by DISQUALIFICATION when he or she has:

Posted October 27, 2013 9:01 pm 


Anonymous

He is too fat to get engaged. He should be banned

Posted October 27, 2013 4:57 pm 


PEEJ

Don’t have Smoger man lust, I just like the way he lets fighters fight and not try to put himself in the mix like some refs do.

Posted October 27, 2013 4:33 pm 


Anonymous

PEEJ , enuff with your Smoger man lust

Posted October 27, 2013 4:30 pm 


Anonymous

hopkins is perfect for modern boxing

Posted October 27, 2013 4:02 pm 


PEEJ

So that Cloud was a bum, Tarver was a bum, Pavlike was a bum, Tito was a bum, Oscar was a bum, all his 20 defenses of the middleweight titles where bums? lol yeah ok

Posted October 27, 2013 3:33 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah i didn’t think Smoger did a bad job neither. Smoger is the guy that lets them fight and I like that.

Posted October 27, 2013 3:29 pm 


Anonymous

SOPHIA , you must be SS’s husband

Posted October 27, 2013 3:12 pm 


SOPHIA

i thought old man Hop looked very good and Smoger is a excellent referee.

Posted October 27, 2013 2:00 pm 


PEEJ

Well I watched up till the 8th or 9th round. And I thought everything done up to that point was just fine. I will watch the last couple of rounds when I get home today.

Posted October 27, 2013 1:05 pm 


Kid Blast

PEEJ . I urge you to watch the last 4 rounds of the fight before you make comments about the midget fat gnome.

Posted October 27, 2013 12:54 pm 


PEEJ

If he did that at the end then yes he should not have done that. As for the hitting on the canvas no much he could do at that particular time. He warned him and told him not to do that again. I think that opened up a dislike for Murat from Smoger. As far as Hopkins talking to the corner there is no rule against that. As far as kissing the guy in the back of the head, there is no rule against that. I have seen on a couple of occasions where a fighter would kiss the other fighters for head or something to get him out of his element. There is no rule against it. And Hopkins didn’t really hit Murat when his back was turned, he tapped him on the side. Wasn’t a punch. If you look at the Wilder fight after the rounds where over Firtha hit Wilder in the back, but more like saying good round. He was hitting Wilder much harder than what Hopkins did.

Posted October 27, 2013 12:50 pm 


Kid Blast

Hidalgo , you are spot on with the fat little gnome.

Posted October 27, 2013 12:45 pm 


Kid Blast

Hidalgo , his pressing his body against Hopkins was almost sexual–or at least metro-sexual.

Posted October 27, 2013 12:44 pm 


AssyrianDog

Deontay is the man!

Posted October 27, 2013 12:27 pm 


Hidalgo

As for hugging and congratulating Hopkins, Kid Blast, Smoger commonly does that, especially after a fight in which both fighters put up great effort and/or after a great performance. but smashing his hand in one boxer’s face, then hugging the other while talking in his ear, just sends the wrong messages. If anything, Smoger should have just shook Hopkins’ hand. After all, Bernard was no saint either in that fight.

Posted October 27, 2013 12:20 pm 


Hidalgo

Murat fought one of the dirtiest fights I’ve ever seen then he tried to intentionally headbutt Hopkins right at the end of the fight. That’s why Smoger shoved his hand into Murat’s face and pushed him away. But, Smoger had no business doing that. Especially in anger as he did.

Smoger was way too lenient with both Hopkins and Murat. He allowed numerous intentional low blows by Kurat and he allowed Kurat to hit Hopkins twice when he was down. He also allowed Hopkins to pull that little kissing stunt and to casually walk across the ring with his back turned on Murat and get into a banter with Mura’t corner. While the fight was going on. Smoger also allowed Murat to repeatedly turn his back on Hopkins without defending himself, and then allowed Hopkins to hit Murat when his back was turned on Hopkins. In fact, Smoger just plain lost control of the fight on numerous occasions.

Smoger reminded me of the fairy tale character Humpty Dumpty. That man is so out of shape he has no business reffing boxing matches. In football, the refs run right alongside the teams, same in soccer and basketball, but in boxing we got refs like Smoger, Byrd, and that fat corrupt ref who finally retired–Joe Cortez. Of course there are others.

BTW, Hopkins impressed me. He still has incredible speed and movement for his age, and decent power. Murat showed me something too–he’s an idiot.

Posted October 27, 2013 12:17 pm 


Anonymous

Smoger lets a boxer get hit on the deck twice no points, he is so swollen, slow, physically weak and weird he cannot step between the boxers to separate them, it is all done with a tiny touch from the outside as he is so afraid of contact to step between them. Then he lets the fighters turn their backs in surrender and does nothing he is so far away.

His usual press his body into a boxer to smother them at the end of the fight is so bizarre it borders on sexual contact. Now its viciously pushing a fighter in his face or pushing or shoving them in anger out of frustration at being physically unable to maintain control. He is so horribly out of shape, who is this Commissioner in NJ that chooses these referees? Are they insane?

Posted October 27, 2013 12:03 pm 


PEEJ

Nope, I have 20/20 vision. From what I saw Smoger did nothing wrong. Now if something happened in the 10th round on I am not sure, I fell asleep. I watched it on DVR and it was getting late and I had to come to work in the morning.

Posted October 27, 2013 11:56 am 


Anonymous

PEEJ, YOU NEED GALLSES

Posted October 27, 2013 11:50 am 


PEEJ

I didn’t really see anything wrong with the way Smoger handled the fight though I only watched up until the 8th or 9th round. Not sure why you say he has a glass jaw. He took any punch Firtha landed easily and was never hurt or shook. The first jab just pushed him back a bit and that was it. I wouldn’t call him a bum though he needs to step up his comp.

Posted October 27, 2013 11:32 am 


Kid Blast

That was one of the worse jobs of refereeing I have ever witnessed. SS has become too fat to engage and needs to consider another line of work. Yelling at one guy and pushing him back while hugging Hopkins after the fight should be taken up by the commissioners. Unreal but not unexpected. Even “Yes Man” Bernstein criticized him frequently.

Posted October 27, 2013 11:27 am 


Pete

D Wilder is a pure bum. His interview after the fight is a joke, he and his team know he will get his ass put to sleep by anyone in the top 15. Glass jaw would be an understatement.

Posted October 27, 2013 11:06 am 



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